We had a really great thread about Jean the other day, that's

>Marvel is going back to the rehashed Jean-Scott-Wolverine love triangle

Please be trolling, we've all seen and read this story a thousand times.

>>92687596
Fucks an Inhuman

>>92687596

No Phoenix shit. No crazy inter-X-Men drama.

Just have Jean tackling villains on her own. That's all.

>>92687684
This. I'm sick of Phoenix. It's almost like none of the writers can write about Jean without Phoenix.

>>92687703

Seriously. Can't we just have a three-issue arc where Jean investigates someone transmitting nightmares into children and causing them to commit crimes in their sleep? Something that ties into her psychic powers.

That's all. Quick story arcs to establish the character outside of her usual role as source of interpersonal relationship drama.

Honestly her being bi and carrying on a relationship with someone like Emma would be hot as fuck.

Jean and Emma or Jean and Dazzler. Book it.

>>92687703
What's her character oustide the pheonix?

>>92687812
That's the thing, they could create her a new character without the Phoenix but they don't. They have to keep going back to that dry well.

>>92687596
Best quit while your ahead Anon, sooner or later your gonna roll craps.

>>92687853
At that point, why even use Jean Grey?

Have time-displaced young O5 Jean kill White Phoenix of the Crown actual Jean and definitively destroy the Phoenix forever.

It's shit it sucks everyone hates it.

I don't really know how you'd fix her, cause that would imply you can fix anything in the utter clusterfuck that is the X-Men. Marvel has fucked them into oblivion.

The only idea I can offer is a comparison to a similar character. Saturn Girl is basically proto-Jean, but largely lacking all the bullshit. For one thing, she is always forced to deal with the consequences of her telepathic shenanigans, for which she herself has a strong moral code. Imra's most common conflict, therefore, is the balance of her morals against her sense of pragmatism. So I suppose that could be a good place start with making Jean less of a pain in the ass?

And before you start, this is ain't no company wars shit, merely a friendly suggestion from inside a glass house. Trust me, as a LoSH-fag, I can definitely sympathize with an X-fag's plight.

Do you think Jean likes anal?

>>92688882
Women don't like anal, that's a porn myth.

>>92687596
Now Jean Gray is the new Batgirl

>>92687637
“I’m really excited to see this character become part of the team,” Senior Editor Mark Paniccia tells ComicBook.com in a statement. “Aside from the fact that he is a kindred spirit…displaced as the Original X-Men are…he’ll also feed into some themes X-Men fans are very familiar with. Like the original Wolverine, Jimmy doesn’t remember his past. And like the original Wolverine, he’s going to find a certain red head very attractive. Will this cause problems with Cyclops? Heheh. Just have to wait and see.”

>>92689189
>Will this cause problems with Cyclops? Heheh. Just have to wait and see.”
Tyke comes off as such a fucking push over that it's already completely uninteresting.

I want to see Jean's feet.

>>92689343
Me too

>>92689458
Do you think she has nice feet?

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>>92689343
>>92689458
>>92689590
Repost.

>>92689663
>tops not the bottoms

No thanks.

>how can you save Jean
Femdom mind break inflicted by Emma Frost then they try and capture young Scott to turn him into Rightclops

>>92689780
Dat's my fetish.

>>92689802
Femdom mind break or SS

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>>92687812
In some ways she's the same character as the Scarlet Witch, who was created as her counterpart on the Brotherhood:

- Passive powers, "ladylike" powers that never require her to look less than pretty
- Has endless romantic complications with the team's resident brooding angsty guy
- Everyone on the team falls in love with her so there can be triangles

She's basically a romance character like a lot of the early Marvel Silver Age heroines.

>>92689821
both.

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>>92690014

I love Jean's new outfit it makes me want to fap to her. That's not a joke, makes her look sexy.

>>92687596
Does Jean still have her "gather the ambient psionic energy of the people and things around her and turn it into psychokinetic force" power that turns her pink?

no more jean relationship drama

jean leaves the x-men

jean is now involved in government wetwork

>>92689710
This.

how bout make it a genre book involving trippy mind adventures drawn like ditko dr. strange or steranko nick fury

>>92689128

And porn encourages men to want it, to want to debase and defile the women they love.

>>92689958

In both cases, their fans don't seem to like, or want the triangles, yet most writers can't quit going back to them.

Well, first off they need to stop using her as a vehicle for trashing Tyclops. They need to seperate the two of them completely. Different books different love interests. Period.

Have her get more & more relaxed & ok with using her telepathic powers on people until it gets to the point anytime someone does something she doesn't like she inflects psychic goblin nightmares on them, she goes completely evil & crazy changes her name to Maddy & have becomes the new Goblin Queen

>>92691995
Does anyone like the love triangle?

>>92692571
No. Thank god Teen Jean and OML is more liked a father daughter thing.

>>92692800
Jimmy is now on the team see >>92689189

>>92692571
Its my least favorite aspect of the character.

>>92689128

I've met two who do but that's a minority.

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>Jimmy doesn’t remember his past. And like the original Wolverine, he’s going to find a certain red head very attractive. Will this cause problems with Cyclops? Heheh. Just have to wait and see

So, Marvel cannot write a Jean story without using the Phoenix and/or Scott-Logan love rivals. So all Jean stories are just retellings over and over.

>>92693017
Did they kill them off just so they could rehash past stories? It'd be funny if Jimmy and Scott told Jean to fuck off and took over her book.

>>92693085
With current Marvel what if Scott and Jimmy fall in love with eachother?

>>92687596
FULL VILLAIN REVEAL SHE IS ATTEMPTING TO END HUMANITY BY TURNING EVERYONE GAY

>>92693154
Jean gave them the gay and she is living out her fantasies.

>>92687661
I vote Ahura

>>92692815
Oh Well.

>>92693017
>>92689189
FUCK THIS STOP RETELLING STORIES

>>92687596
Adults attempting to write teen characters will never stop being cringy, just look at America "Holy Menstruation" Chavez. Just age her up and stop rehashing the same tired out plots

>>92693975
This Please.

>>92687703
>>92687853
>>92687756


That's a tough sell since no one cares about her outside Phoenix. You'd be better off doing that story with Emma.

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>>92693376

>the love triangle is coming back
>Phoenix is coming back

>>92692571
>>92692817
>>92692914

I don't think anyone likes the triangle itself, but there are more Wolverine fans than there are Jean fans or Cyclops fans put together, so they get pandered to with love-triangle plots.

This doesn't explain why Fantastic Four keeps doing the Reed/Sue/Namor triangle, or Avengers keeps doing the Vision/Wanda/Wonderman triangle, because Namor and Wonderman are nowhere near that popular.

Marvel just keeps employing writers who are creatively bankrupt, have a cuckold-fetish, or can't even understand the appeal of characters in a stable, loving, happy marriage.

>>92694769

That's not true, her fans have always been divided between those who want her as Phoenix, and those who don't, and the Jean Threads on /co/ seem to have very few anons who want Phoenix.

Anyone who started reading before Claremont, or between X-Factor #1 and before the Morrison run, is likely more used to Jean not being Phoenix.

It's not an issue of "what fans want", it's an issue of "Marvel hiring writers who just keep repeating the same old storylines".

>>92696869
House of ideas. Hoping for a rehash of Teen Jean death.

>>92694039

Instead of "age her up", let's send the teen O5 back in time, and then bring back the real Scott, Jean, Wolverine, Xavier, and Iceman.

>>92697525
I love Jean, I love Phoenix. I love Phonnix from the 80s, during stories that really had weight and mean someone.

When you use the Phoenix time and time and time again. It's like, "who even cares about the Phoenix anymore. It's gotta come back in 2 years". I lose all interest, they add nothing new. Cyclops and the Phoenix egg was interesting and was well built then they blew their load and wasted it.

>>92689710
>not the bottoms
That literally never happens in comics

>>92697525
Sure, anon. I've seen no one care about Jean outside the phoenix shit. Also

>before Claremont

No one cared about X-Men back then, and even less about Jean. And the only things people cared about from the first X-factor run was Archangel and Apocalypse.

>>92698928
>And the only things people cared about from the first X-factor run was Archangel and Apocalypse.

That's not true, people cared about Jean being back, they cared about Cyclops' marriage ending, they cared about Beast not being a furry anymore, and they cared about the original "mutant hunters" plot.

A lot of that caring was expressed through REEEEEEEing, but it's still caring.

>>92698567
>, and then bring back the real Scott, Jean, Wolverine, Xavier
This please.

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>>92700429

Jeanbump for Jeanbumps

>>92698735

Even the movies go straight to Logan and the Phoenix. Twice.

>>92701871
Yes yes.

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>>92699888
There was a vocal contingent of Silver Age X-Men fans who never warmed to the reboot and hated the whole Dark Phoenix story because they loved OG Jean.

Kurt Busiek is the best known of these because he came up with the "Jean wasn't really Phoenix" retcon that brought her back, but there were a bunch of others. X-Factor existed because of original X-Men fans who never accepted the reboot.

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>>92687684
Except she traumatized an innocent bystander with mental rape, after she caused a car to ram through the poor girl's house.

Jean is nothing but death and destruction. She blows up solar systems to masturbate. She violates the mental privacy of others, while she herself dislikes the invasion of mental privacy.

She blows up solar systems to achieve estrus, and bitches to her husband about his inability to get it up during sex.

Jean is canonically interested in three things: sex, mental rape, and getting sexual satisfaction from death.

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>>92704044
>Jean is canonically interested in three things: sex, mental rape, and getting sexual satisfaction from death.

Four things: sex, mental rape, getting sexual satisfaction from death, and housework.

>>92704041
Very good.

>>92687775
>Jean
>With Emma

You leave best girl alone! She doesn't deserve to be Jean'd!

>>92704128
Thank you for the much needed correction.

>>92693376
this, I fully expect this.

Jean will want to be "stronk, indipendants womysn" and get all upset over Scott and Jimmy wanting her, and she'll Jean them into being gay for each other.

>>92693156
DEEPEST LORE!!!!

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>>92704315
*chuckles* She'll "Jean them..."

I like this meme.

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>>92704154

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>>92704568
Well, if we're sharing Jean/Maddie Semi-Work Safe images...

Jean "Fifty Shades of Grey-ing" herself.

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>>92704677
Impressive...and actually sexy.

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Last one for the night, keep it going, anons.

>>92704128
I know you're joking, but you can actually make a coherent personality out of those traits, domineering perfectionist.

>>92689189
>some themes X-Men fans are very familiar with. Like the original Wolverine, Jimmy doesn’t remember his past. And like the original Wolverine, he’s going to find a certain red head very attractive
>See, just like if you had the real X-Men around, right? RIGHT? Are you gonna buy our fake shit now?

>>92705265
Thank you anon.

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OMG, look what I started.

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Just going to leave this here.

>>92707083
Saved thank you