>Henri Ducard was the Shadow all along Are twists like this

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>>92687042
In this case I think it works because it is acknowledging in a metatextual way how much Shadow influenced early Batman.
Personally, I'm more annoyed by how hard they're leaning into "Real heroes don't kill!" for this one. The bits about Shadow manipulating people into servitude and Batman being super disturbed by it were much more effective for me.

>>92687042
Storytime?

>>92688203
In the time it would take for somebody to save every page and post them in here you could easily download the issue and read it yourself.
You realize shit like this is why the rest of 4chan mocks you right?

>>92688760
We are?

>>92688760
Wow, you're an asshole even by 4chan standards.

>>92687168
Not like what he did himself for Dick and Jason were any different.

Such he didn't force that much but he did manipulate minors in doing dangerous crap in fucking Gotham.

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Storytime, because fuck this guy.>>92688760

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This is one of those books where I can never decide which cover to get.

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God this post cooldown is shit.

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I love how Bats is getting tired of his own shit.

>>92690773
>post cooldown
And that is why we don't see as many storytimes.
It's weird, both times a new issue of this comes out, the op posts a page to complain about, and then no one storytimes the issue until later.
Thanks for the storytime.

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>>92690885
Sadly most people here casuals don't really care about The Shadow.

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>>92690964
>BAT.jpeg

>>92690918
how many are only familiar with the movie?

>>92690964
>that same "lorum ipsum bladeblahblah"
I wish the writers could take a little extra time to come up with a 5 minute article about these shots in newspapers instead of this bullshit

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It wasn't in this scan, but the second to last page was an ad for a new Shadow series starting in August.

Was The Stag an established villain in the pulps and radio shows?
Was The Shadow always a supernatural force? At what point did it change?

>>92691009

Only those who know what evil lurks in the hearts of men.

>>92691061
To my knowledge he was just a low-powered Super with clouding mind powers and being intangible in the radio shows. And in the movie he was the same, but with more slinking shadow on the floor and walls ability. Over time writers gave him more Super abilities.

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>>92691061
Apparently The Stag is from a recent Batman Annual.

>>92687042
So was Cranston just another mask for the Shadow?

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>>92691139
Cranston was a real person whose life The Shadow took over in the pulps. The time the two confronted each other when Cranston found out was great. In the radio drama Cranston was The Shadow.

>>92690794
Dionyseum ENDGAME so I guess this is Cannon

>>92691236
>That Bats Mopeez
It's always the little things that give a page flavor

>>92691197
So he literally stole someone's identity just to be a better Shadow man he's a dick

>>92691236
Just couldn't help yourself could you Snyder

>>92691296
To be fair, Lamont benefited from it too. It meant that he could gallivant around doing rich playboy things while The Shadow managed his wealth far better than he ever could.

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Anyone here read that Shadow/Twilight Zone crossover from last years it was good shit

>>92691511

Wait wut?

Okay what's the plot?!

>>92692628
It's WW2 and the shadow is traveling across Europe aggressively shooting Nazis and ends up in the Twilight Zone he goes across a series of increasingly meta scenarios built to teach him a lesson

>>92691511
It was fun as fuck.
https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/91181847/

>>92690658
Thank you

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>>92691139
it always was an assumed identity while the real Cranston got to take it easy on long treks across the world, but this comic outright says The Shadow is actually centuries old. Well he was inspired by Dracula after all.

>>92691511
What a weird idea. I don't see the connection?

>>92694585
It was better than it had any right to be it covered who the shadow was In both fiction and reality while going on a meta twilight zone journey

>>92691139
Yes, that was how it was in the pulps. The Shadow was Kent Allard, a WWI aviator and spy. Lamont Cranston was a millionaire whom the Shadow decided to use the identity of. In some other incarnations that use the pulps it handles the situation differently. Like for instance in Chaykin's Shadow, Cranston was millionaire who was secretly a drug dealer in the Orient, and Kent Allard thought he had killed him so he took his identity.

The radio show and the movie made Cranston into The Shadow's real identity, which is why a lot of people think that.

>>92691061
>Was The Shadow always a supernatural force? At what point did it change?

No; in the pulps he was more like a stage magician (since Walter B. Gibson was a professional magician himself). He wasn't exactly supernatural. The radio show brought in the idea that he could become invisible, and subsequently later writers tried to add supernatural aspects to him.

>>92688203
please

So is the Cranston that died in the first issue related to the real Lamont Cranston, or did the shadow actually have kids?
The latter seems unlikely, but would also be kind of neat.

>>92696734
I think the one who died was related to the real Cranston, but I think the first issue had a character who might be The Shadow's grandson (that one bellhop).

>>92697049
Interesting, I figured that they bellhop was supposed to imply that the shadow's newer agents were these fanatics, instead of normal people like Margo and Vincent. Thanks anon.

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>>92688760
Damn anon, who shitted in your neetflakes today?

Why does Snyder write Batman like he's just on the verge of total hysterics? Even if The Shadow is pushing his buttons a lot he seems really pissy here.

>>92691333

All-Star Batman is the only thing he's done since Night of the Owls that hasn't had an appearance by the Joker.

Death of the Family
Zero Year
Endgame
Superheavy
Metal

>>92687042
Is this story in continuity? Because it seems as if it's written with the intent of being in continuity

>>92690697
the sweet sweet timmy cover

>>92688760
>doesn't like storytimes
>thinks anyone is mocking the person asking for a storytime of a book that came out yesterday

>>92690658
Not a huge fan of this cover.

>>92690676
This one is better.

>>92690697
And this one is the best.

>>92690949
>don't call me master

"Master Bruce" is a formal title for an unmarried male. This is more commonly used among older Englishmen. Snyder is a fucking illiterate idiot.

>>92690918
I would be one of them.

I know next to nothing about the character. Where should I start?

>>92687042
Definitely cheap.

>>92690949
>>92690964
What is he fucking eating?

>>92701742
Orlando is handling dialogue and script, Snyder only co-plotted. Idiot.

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>>92701763
These plus the Grendel crossover plus anything else by Matt Wagner.

Thanks to the storytimer.

>>92688760
/a/ pls

bumping for others

>>92690749
>muted tones to fit a comic with the Shadow
>Great big billowing sheets of red out the wazoo

Fucking hell

>>92690949
>Bat turtleneck sweater vest

>>92701992
That Chaykin mini is garbage.

>>92691017
>He literally kept Lorem Ipsum as the news story

holy shit I didn't realize this when I first read it. jfc Steve, you're supposed to have that as a placeholder, not publish it

I was really looking forward to this crossover but I'm kind of not digging it. The mystery isn't grabbing me and the art style doesn't fit the writing

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>>92702123
Yeah much better to do what the hacks at Dynamite do and just draw him like a regular dumpy guy in a rumpled hat and cape with literally no embellishment or imagination or anything even approaching evocative

>>92702340
>other people are also shit so this is good

I always love this defense

>>92702394
No this is good on it's own, artists should've been doing something along these lines for many years.

>>92690718
>>92690749
I love when Batman fights in only partial costume

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>>92701779
it looks like a glob of melted butter

>>92702173
it's actually pretty solid it just has NOTHING to do with The Shadow

>>92691218
>Batman tased a ghost
Only Batman

>>92691063
You know, from this perspective it kinda looks like Batman is against somebody shooting their assailant in self defence. Is Batman that anti-gun in this crossover, or am I missing something from previous issues?

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>>92690658
Thank you

>>92701992
I second this except for Chaykin's mini-series.
But nothing beats the pulps.

>>92691061
>Was The Stag an established villain in the pulps and radio shows?
Not as far as I know.
They do mention Shiwan Khan and Monstradamus in this comic and they are actual pulp villains, but I don't remember ever hearing about an enemy named The Stag

>Was The Shadow always a supernatural force? At what point did it change?
Kind of. When he started out in the pulps he was more of an impossibly skilled magician/escape artist/ master of disguise/etc. There wasn't any explicit mention of anything supernatural, although some stories did drop hints that maybe The Shadow wasn't entirely human.
The radio show brought on the idea that he could "cloud men's minds" via hypnosis which made him invisible. They also tried giving him some other powers (The Deathhouse Murders has him establish a mental link with a person ala Spock), but it was mostly just that. And with time, this became a part of the pulps.
And with time, other powers started showing up in depictions of The Shadow, like the possibility of him being immortal.

He was always kind of written as a supernatural force of justice, and the constant mystery is what made him appealing. It took a while for them to actually give him superpowers.

>>92691139
Yes. Gibson never intended for Cranston to be his actual secret identity, he just liked using it more than the others. The real identity was Kent Allard (although there are some inconsistencies with this which could have been either an accident or yet another instance of Gibson creating yet another mystery).
But the radio show used it, and after a while it pretty much became the defacto secret identity of The Shadow.
Towards the end of his run, Gibson was also asked to retcon the Kent Allard identity to make it so that it was just another mask of The Shadow, and make Cranston his real identity.

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>>92701763
We are storytiming Year One so hop the fuck in if you haven't read it already

>>92707663

bumping for others

>>92691095
it's funny, I didn't like New 52 Batman really but everything after Snyder has done really well

>>92694815
oh fuck, Mandrake crossover when??

>>92688760
I was offering a storytime, not begging for one, wise guy.

>>92690658
Thanks, you're a good person anon.