Are Superheroes that can stretch considered outdated now? It

>>92685741
Nah, you just can't do that much with strechy powers at first sight. Making a strechy guy threatening requiers a shit ton of creativity and some asspulls.

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>>92685741
Stretchiness is never outdated

yea.......no

>>92685741
Luffy is the only good example.

And seriously, it depends how creative the writer is.

>>92685791
Mr fantastic can't do that, can he?

>>92685864
>good

They should all logically have regenerative powers

>>92685741
>>92685791
Could Luffy beat Plastic Man?

>>92686090
Plastic man is basically a Logia on drugs, I think he takes it easily.

>>92686051
Yes

>>92686114
>Yes

>>92686051
Not him but it was neat usage of magic rubber powers until Gear 3. Then all that haki shit made everything stupid.

>>92686130

incorrect

>>92686161
Agree.
Gear 2 was stupid since it's a half assed explanation how this is connected with rubber.
It's just Kaioken pirate edition.

>>92686090
Plastic Man is literary unbeatable and immune against all kinds of attacks. Even if you throw him into space, he would just turn into a fart propelled rocket and come back. Even then, you would need to touch him, which is a bad idea because he would just play the hentai game and kill you from the inside. Even reality warping would do jack shit because e is immune against this shit. The only way to beat him is to immobilize him with acetone then throw him into a different dimension where nothing exists and even then I think he will find a way to bullshit himself out.

>>92686418
Didn't he die in the Injustice universe?

>>92686130
I don't think so, since Haki isn't perfect for luffy 4th gear is pretty creative way tp use it. Since regular Haki is like hitting steel, luffy puts that in his rubber making it stretchy steel. Since since that kai is active it forces luffy to bounce, he can't stand still. It's got its own weakness but it's like pinball but with out the machine to knock the ball around.
Plus the design is awesome for what Oda creates.

>>92686418
so freezing him or since he's in the vacuum of space wouldn't he die anyways?

>>92685791

He could do with an updated design.

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>>92685741
No. It's just that writers can't use powers creatively.

>>92686621
He would survive this.

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Pretty much. Usually they need an ensemble of characters with more interesting powers to keep the story engaging, whether it be enemies or allies.

>>92686635
I don't disagree, but there's a logic to him not bothering since a shapeshifter would find simplicity preferable. He could honestly go full Manhattan and just make himself one red humanoid but Patrick, being Patrick, likes to have some personality.

>>92686788
>more interesting powers
Can I argue that stretchiness is probably one of the best possible designs for a superpower?

>simple concept
>versatile yet limited
>has many uses outside of just fighting
>its function and limitations read extremely well visually (e.g. you can tell the character's stretching himself too thin)
>fun to see in action esp. animated

If anything they should stop making flying bricks

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>>92686892
It's the only way to handle stories with fluctuating power levels. Stretching is entirely pointless if your strongest punch can't kill the enemy. And you'd have to tone back the scale of the conflict too, let's say Darkseid's only power was stretching, they could beat him by getting 50 resident superheroes to hide around a corner and cutting his outstretched limbs off.

>>92686495
No. Broke his son out of jail and disappeared, never to be heard from again.

>>92686977
and now I'm imagining a universe where Plastic Man has usurped Darkseid

>>92685790
It depends how far in the strech powers you want to go
Make your character essentially rubber and you can make them do all sorth of crazy shit and never get hurt by getting hit at all
For example he could shoot himself because he is elastic against the bad guy and since that doesn't hurt him it's all fine

>>92686977
The problem has always been fluctuating power levels tho. Of course once your villain is all powerful cosmic entity you're gonna need DBZ tier powers to fight it, but all creativity and fun go out of the window.

See The Incredibles, it's just a villain with a bunch of gravity gizmos and a really tough robot vs. an interesting set of powers. Even Mr. Incredible is just really strong, but not Superman strong.

>>92687021
A universe where Plastic Man has wrapped himself throughout Darkseids body and controls him like a suit of armour.

Talking to animals is seen as a terrifying superpower in North Korea. The children there actually, literally believe that Kim Jong can talk to mice because that's what they're taught there- to keep them to behave and shit- OR ELSE.


Or imagine some serial killer who can talk to animals.
Every bird his witness, every dog and stray cat his ally. Where would you hide?

>>92687083
>tfw they teach North Koreans that Kim's father "created the universe"

>>92686977
The thing is, strechers can punch hard. They don't need to care about the knockback as they can absorb it and they can punch you as fast as they can stretch. If they punch fast enought, they can be extremly threatening for the big guys.

>>92687083
Also the web serial Worm has a pretty good take on a main character who can control bugs, and she does pretty cool / horrifying things with them.

>>92686788
HAHAHAHAHA-HA
MAMAMAMA-MAMA

>>92687083
>Serial killer can talk to animals.
>All animals just want to talk about the best spots to find food.

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>>92686977
Mihawks is like the epitome of power levels in One Piece though

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they are never outdated

>>92687174
Seems useful. Outside of pyongyang most people eat grass to survive.

>>92687117
>they can be extremly threatening for the big guys.
4u

>>92687119
If I wanted to read thousands of pages of traumatic depression inducing events, I'd just write a diary.

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>>92685882
He can't even turn into a bicycle

>>92685741
Luffy is probably the most deadly application of stretching powers seen in fiction. With some creativity I bet someone could come up with something fresh involving it.

>>92687304

someone got that one where Mr. Fantastic goes insane cause he thinks everything is Plastic man

>>92686595
You misunderstood me, even gear 3 was already shit.

>Since regular Haki is like hitting steel, luffy puts that in his rubber making it stretchy steel.
That's the opposite of creative.

Also
>Since since that kai is active it forces luffy to bounce, he can't stand still. It's got its own weakness but it's like pinball but with out the machine to knock the ball around.
That looks lame and doesn't work well with the artstyle as actual stretchy powers.

>Plus the design is awesome
Fuck no.

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>>92687375
nope but this era of suits makes the crossover hilarious. now imagine that infamous barda in elasticman dress but as susans uniform

>>92687383
Launching something hard from a distance at high velocity is how an actual gun works though. It's brilliant.

>>92686201
>it's a half assed explanation how this is connected with rubber.
"Heart and blood vessels get stretchy which increases speed and power" makes a lot more sense than most of what happens after it.

Seriously, stretchy bones full of air suddenly hit like they weight 800 tons because reasons?

Luffy is op

https://youtube.com/watch?v=hAe8Nwjl5T4

>>92686418
Im pretty sure haki can kill plastic man. Its OP's hacks against logia.

>>92687470
>Plastic Man
>logia
Stop. He can't control the environment and turn everything into rubber.

>>92687414
>Launching something hard from a distance at high velocity is how an actual gun works though
No shit. That's also how flying bricks work, and they're really a dime a dozen.

Why does stretchy powers make him a bullet again? Oh right, that dumb haki shit that makes everyone who had unique powers become a brick with passive telepathy now.

>>92687536
A regular human fist can barely break wood, what superhero characters don't have abnormally hard fists? Hell, even punching a guy in the face will most likely make you break a finger.

>>92687532
but his awaken devil fruit power probably could.

>>92687536
>Why does stretchy powers make him a bullet again?
Not that anon but what sets Luffy apart from a lot of stretchy power guys is that he's got much more...I think the term is tensile resistance? Like, snapback?

Whereas Reed or Plas can just kinda stick their arm out and hold it there Luffy's actually gotta pull it back or forward and that's where the velocity comes from.

>>92687557
it won't you're just a shit fighter

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>Thread turned into the science of stretch as applied to different characters

this is actually pretty fucking cool.

>>92687425
Ever been hit by a car tire? It's just rubber full of air.

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>>92687557
He seemed to be able to break wood and punch people just fine before Haki. Obviously the rules of this universe are different.

>>92687616
Well yeah, like a slighshot, not the projectile of a slingshot.

I guess you could argue that makes him a superball but again I really don't think that looks as cool as other stretchy powers.

>>92687721
It's either mounted on a wheel (so not just air) or not actually pumped with air.

I fail to see your argument anyway, car tires can hurt people but then so can pretty much literally anything.

Also no, I haven't, what backwards sports do they play where you're from where it's a common occurence?

>>92687794
Whatever riding inside a tractor tire is called.
Sure, tractor tire is thicker, but so are Luffys bones.

>>92687425
A feather can suddenly hit like it weights 800 tons if it is fast enought. You can also nuke things with a feather if it is fast enought. Speed allows you to bullshit around these weight issues easily.

>>92687746
>Well yeah, like a slighshot, not the projectile of a slingshot.
More like a rubber band or a flail, really. Getting snapped with one of those can sting, so multiply that by a couple orders of magnitude and it'd feel like getting shot.

>>92687946
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BMxrW_-5IKk

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>>92687893
Apparently it's called the inner tube in English.
Even then I don't think you could make one big enough to knock down a wall. Hell even if you throw a normal one on a human it will knock them down because of the momentum but the hit won't hurt anything but cartilage.

I guess it sort of makes sense in a world where Luffy's hands could already break hard surfaces but idk, it just looks too fucking goofy to me when his big baloon limbs break entire buildings. Maybe it's because the "pumping my bicep by blowing into my thumb" is an old dad joke.

>>92687924
Not really if the thing you throw is too britsle.
You can throw a pillow as hard as technologically possible at a wall and the wall will stay the fuck there.

>>92687946
Well yeah that's how his normal powers work, the whole bouncing thing doesn't have the same use of momentum.

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>>92687924
If speed is so good, why doesn't Kizaru just go back in time and make Luffy's pregnant mom fall down a set of stairs?

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>>92688015
More like "western cartoon" joke.
Oda takes plenty of notes from west.

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>>92688015
I was taking about riding down a hill inside the outer tube like some hillbilly idiot.

>>92688140
I see, but then that's again not pumped with air, it's only its weight that does the damage.

>>92688000
>When normies try to support capes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjJ711786Uk

>>92688306
Not even Hitler deserves this.

>>92688306
Unironically got to me

>>92688306
That's honesly my favorite aspect of One Piece.

>>92688000
>>92688306
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhF2W9mA7CE

>>92687746
>>92687946

Luffy is made of rubber and his body want's to keep it's shape. That's why when he tried to use gum gum pistol as a kid it was limp and didn't go far because he didn't have the strength to stretch.

How come Kamala doesn't do anything cool with her stretchiness?

>>92687425
>"Heart and blood vessels get stretchy which increases speed and power"
That is NOT how blood works. Even for capeshit/manga that is nonsense and bullshit.

>>92687425
>>92688604
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tQdLmBsTReI
Look at 1:08. That's how Gear 2 Supposedly works.

>>92688097
Because he doesn't have superspeed, he can turn into light and move as a light beam.

>>92688604
It's just doping.

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>>92688604
>blood delivers oxygen to muscles for them to function
>stretchier heart and blood vessels make blood flow faster and thus deliver more oxygen per unit of time
>muscles work in turbo mode
I don't know man, seems like perfectly sensible pseudoscience to me. Makes more sense than Pym particles or half of Reed's inventions.

What's your opposition to it?

>>92688468
Mine too. Well, was. People complain about Luffys gears but making Usopp a plant user instead of the trickster/sniper he was shaping up to be was the worst change to me.

>>92688794
>plant user

Odd way of spelling "god"

>>92688794
I dropped at the end of Dressrosa but honesly it felt like it was going downhill ever after Water 7/Enies Lobby.

>>92688709
>What's your opposition to it?
I know medicine.

>>92688834
I picked up One Piece again after Dressrosa ended.

>dude Alabasta 2.0 what if Crocodile owns the country lmao
Holy shit, Oda

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>>92688920
Ok Chopper-kun, could you expand on that?
Because it's pseudoscience that makes more sense to the layman than most pseudoscience I've seen.

>>92688942
At least there were a couple of neat characters in the gladiator tournament but yeah, it was Alabasta 2: now drawn out to death.

>>92688306
That's gold

Is One Piece worth reading?

>>92688834
>Hasn't seen Zou yet

Don't be crusin' for spoilers

>>92688981
No, if you read it you're going to hate it. But if you stick with it you're going to love it. Took me like 4 years to warm up to one piece.

>>92688981
Only after you finish Hajime no Ippo and Dragon ball's entire manga series.

>>92689000
I don't care about spoilers.
>inb4 some character dies
Whoopdee-fucking-doo.

Is it any good?

>>92689022
Fuck yeah. Way more compact too, Oda must've realized how fucking slow Dressrosa was.

>>92688942
Not that I disagree (Dressrosa dragged constantly and was easily the weakest arc since Skypiea) but is your argument really "dude le meme lmao"? Because I've seen 5-year-olds who can better articulate what they disliked about something.

>>92689043
Now I remember I've read the first couple of... what's it called issues?
It did seem to be better, maybe I'll grab it back.

>>92689015
But I don't have all that time left to live

>>92689022
We find out how to get to Raftel.
We meet a real ninja.
Friends of said ninja created the poneglyphs
FURRIES EVERYWHERE.

>>92689066
Best fursecution since archie's Sonic run, honestly.

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>>92689066
>"real ninja"
>Oda draws an ugly asshole instead

>>92689143
I hate this idiots and all the wano fucknuts and I can't wait to see their homeland burn

>>92689143
What were you expecting? Orange jumpsuit?

>>92686051
>one piece
>not good

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People with stretchy powers are becoming the next big thing. Prove me wrong.

>>92685882
He can morph just as well as plastic man oddly enough. he just chooses not to

>>92688920
> i can't take any bullshit from an already ridiculous media expect the one I'm actually have any knowledge of.
Holly Molly mate, what a bloody coincidence

https://youtu.be/XT4Aq4SklqA

Couldnt Luffy Kill Superman if he stretched far enough?

>>92686621
He's incapacitated, but not dead. He's been frozen and broken into pieces before and even ripped apart then thrown to the bottom of the ocean for 3000 years while fully conscious of it. He just reforms himself. He's not even human anymore.

>>92687425
>>92688709
you're shit at explaining it. he doesn't make his blood vessels stretchy, he uses his legs as a pump to make his blood flow faster, and being made of rubber means his veins don't get torn up from it

>>92688981
Read it man, even at it's worse it's still pretty great. Or read up to Alabasta, if you're not enjoying it by this point than you're not going to later.

>>92688306
I miss this.

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>>92687375
Gotcha.

>>92686070
Doesn't save a character if it's writer isn't creatively using it. Look how Ms marvel was handled if you want to see an example of unrealized potential.

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Could Ma and Pa handle her?>

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Luffy punched a guy so hard it almost destroyed a city.

Rubber is a broken power.

>>92687383
>That looks lame and doesn't work well with the artstyle as actual stretchy powers.
yes it does when it comes to being made of rubber, plus that's the style and it's awesome not the same shitty lean faggot power up you see time and time again.

>>92689937
Here’s that thread, if anyone wants to read through it.
http://desuarchive.org/co/thread/69168240/#69171121

>>92689636
Well, before the time skip, Luffy could only stretch about 7200 Funky Gomu Gomus. We don't know how much he's increased that length after his 2 year training.

>>92689143
good, pretty sick of the naruto garbage

>>92689841
Your heart pumps your blood though, not your legs. I think it's just a cool visual thing but it doesnt really make sense for him to specifically use his limbs.

>>92690071
Every power is broken in one piece it's just how you use it. Hell I didn't think of of gear 2nd would utilize rubber powers like that. Some characters just have overpowered df already, but when used creatively they are even more dangerous.

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>>92688834
>Dropping before BEST MOM gets in full swing

LIFE OR MANGA?

>>92690168
The air goes into his blood, which pumps throught out his whole body. If a normal person does that they would get a heart attack.

>>92690082
>yes it does when it comes to being made of rubber
The hell does that have to do with the visuals?
Stretchy powers fill the panel more satisfyingly than speed-lines behind a bouncing thing.

>plus that's the style and it's awesome not the same shitty lean faggot power up you see time and time again.
What the fuck kind of sentence is that?

>>92690199
this crazy bitch is gonna be a fun fighr.

>>92690210
That makes even less sense.

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>>92690056
She's like if the Berserk creator tried to write Etta Candy while tripping balls. I love it.

>>92690221
>The hell does that have to do with the visuals?
>Stretchy powers fill the panel more satisfyingly than speed-lines behind a bouncing thing.
then we just differ then, stretchy powers look lame as fuck the way plastic man or mister fantastic uses them.

>>92690223
>>92690254
And as far as we know, Mama is the only member of the Yonko who sings
https://youtu.be/HJ0zK_EUc-4

>>92685882
He can. Most iterations of him can. He doesn't normally, because he's too focused on thinking about stuff. The Maker is the most recent showing of "cool things people with stretchy powers can do" if they put their minds to it. Reed is usually using his tech and his head more than he's fighting anyone these days, though. By "these days" I mean pre-Secret Wars. We haven't seen enough of him after that to say anything, but we have seen a little bit of Maker.

Plastic Man and Reed can essentially do the same things.

>>92690247
You didn't even read it did you?
You do know that blood cells absorb oxygen right? Pumping air directly in to the blood stream forces your blood to pump faster but a normal real person would get a heart attack.

>>92690259
I was talking about how Luffy regularly uses his stretch powers when he's not a bouncing brick. I feel like I'm talking in circles here.

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>>92688306
Not even Batman can prepare against THAT!

>>92690303
Air isn't just fucking oxygen you dumbass.
Blood cells transport oxygen after the air has been filtered by the lungs.

There's nothing indicating that Luffy pumps air directly into his blood from his legs.

>>92686418
THIS is why I hate comicbooks, everything you just said sounds like pure horseshit

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>>92687425
>Seriously, stretchy bones full of air suddenly hit like they weight 800 tons because reasons?

Luffy is crazy strong even before using gears.

Do you have any idea how much this gold ball would weigh?

>>92690310
ok my answer still is the same because he still stretches while being a bouncy brick. The thing is before Luffy had to fully stretch then use the Haki armament because it hardens him like steel and can't stretch the part that is black. In 4th he can because he made his rubber power tough as steel and still able to stretch it.

>>92689443
It's a Speedsuit, Hank.

>>92690357
>>92690357
>There's nothing indicating that Luffy pumps air directly into his blood from his legs.
they say it in the fucking manga you retard, even the anime says it, jesus do you even read or you just look at the pictures like a retard?

>>92690373
not to mention he's living rubber, the powers allow him to take it into his bones.

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Rubber is better than stretching. For one, it's a hard counter to the single most broken devil fruit in existence.

>>92690501
well, even rubber can be electrocuted. You just need high enough voltage.

>>92690501
That was before shiny black haki was thought of. Enel with haki could just make something stupid like black haki lightning and nullify the rubber.

>>92685741
No pun intended but its a rather flexible power, with the well known subjects using it differently whule being rooted in the same powers.

If you want the classic take, Mr. Fantastic or Elongated Man are your go too. If you want to take the classic way and up it up to crazy, Plastic Man is your man. If you want someone more rubber than elastic and a different take on stretching, Luffy is a good example of so. Or if you want to take it a bit more serious and see it used for stealth, Helen Parr showcases that pretty well. Hell it can be seen as body horror so there is that too.

One problem is that its not a power that seems "cool" from a surface level. It can be so but the creators have to really put effort into it.

Another problem is that its a visually tricky power. Artists spent years mastering the human form so suddenly have to bend it out of wack will throw some off. I believe thats one reason its seldom paired with females since you don't wanna ruin that perfect body or something...

Speaking of, there is an indie planet comic called Bubblegum Jane thats worth a look for any stretch power fans. The way its presented is downright sexy.

>>92690538
He doesn't need to. He can literally just nuke the island/boat his enemy is standing on from orbit.

Nobody in OP except him knows how to go into space.

>>92690445
>they say it in the fucking manga you retard
That's not what they say, no.

>>92690538
lucky for luffy, Enel was a pompous prick who thought he was a god.

>>92690286
I thought the anime was in filler hell after Zou? This is great.

>>92690570
yes it it he pumps the the blood to increase the blood flow and causes him to steam and over heat using the oxygen inside him already. Stop being retarded.

>>92690582
Toei decided rather than filler, just try to stretch a chapter's worth of content into a 20 minute episode.

>>92690595
Exactly, it doesn't say it pumps oxygen through his fucking legs.
>Stop being retarded.
No, you.

>>92690605
they had one filler. They fought three vice admirals on this island because they ran out of food.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SPSq1jJ0VM

>>92690633
oxygen STEAM ISescaping his body
>that's not oxygen that's not pumping oxygen through the body!
ok buddy

>>92685790
So Plastic Man and Luffy are the best example of doing it right?

>>92690670
>oxygen STEAM
You're really fucking stupid, mate. Do they not have basic science classes in your country?

>>92690703
at least luffy is doing it the anime way.
plastic man is the only one doing it right I assume.

>>92690703
They have very different powers and I don't really get why people equate the two.

Plastic Man is a shape shifter. He can stretch, expand, and turn into basically anything. He can be ripped apart and reform. He can turn his body into a functioning printing press if he wanted.

Luffy is a straight up rubber man. He can stretch and extend his body, but it always snaps back. Like actually rubber. A rubber band can't turn into a printing press.

>>92690714
I dunno does CO2 have oxygen in it? Does H2O have Oxygen in it?
Guess its you who needs some schooling.

>>92685741
Not everyone is as imaginative as Oda is. In the hands of an idiot stretchy powers are weak and lame, or require jobbing/conveniently forgetting your powers like Jake from Adventure Time

https://youtu.be/pq8XbUdSZUs

I remember seeing this and thought this was the first time the power ever looked good. Been a fan ever since really.

>>92690790
You don't seem to understand that H2O and O2 molecules don't share all the same properties because they both happen to have oxygen atoms in them.

Steam happens when a liquid turns into gas. The oxygen in your body is already in gas form and far hotter than any oxygen (O2) would need to be liquid which is under 90.19 K (−182.96 °C; −297.33 °F).

Oxygen "steam" does exist, but suggesting it's what happens in this case makes you look like a retard.

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>>92685741
>like talking to animals
I unironically think talking to animals can be OP so long as it isn't just talking to them.

Maybe it's because I've been around some of the more impressive and larger animals on Earth before, but the thought of being able to go tell a bear or something worse to go fuck up something is pretty ridiculous considering humans often can get spooked and shit their pants if a dog half their size starts acting tough.

I know that in the shadow of other basic things like laser vision, animals are overlooked but once you consider that even a weak chimp can rip your arms off or deglove your face, I don't know, I 'd take animal control over personal super strength.

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>>92690815
I love this movie and how they portray capes so much. They show you only a tiny little bit of the heroes in their prime, just a taste.
Then for the most part you see them as out of practice and out of shape but they use that to actually show how their powers are absolutely formidable and you can't help but wonder how kickass they must've been back in the day.

>>92690911
>Oxygen "steam" does exist, but suggesting it's what happens in this case makes you look like a retard.
in a rubber body you muther fucking idiot, plus steam happens when you perspire and you can see it when it's fucking cold out. Ever get off your fat ass and run for an while? your body is perspiring and heating up to a degree that your sweat is turning into mist.
Any more would cause your heart to explode, but the fucker is made of rubber so he can contain it, that's how it works.

>>92690911
>You don't seem to understand that H2O and O2 molecules don't share all the same properties because they both happen to have oxygen atoms in them.
also stop nitpicking you just sound like an idiot trying to move the goal post.

>>92690501
>Enel
>Most broken
Nah man, Kizaru's is objectively the most broken and may not have a single hard counter depending on what Oda wants the dark dark fruit to do to it. It's just in the hands of an idiot

>>92690913
This was used well in Ex Machina.

>>92691074
that idiot has been able to steal other people's powers. So no one can really say how, buy he isn't an idiot.

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>>92690179
This is exactly why I love Luffy. Something like a rubber power was utilized so well in his hands, he managed to make a considerably useless ability into a legitimate threat. Gear 4 did not disappoint.

>>92690913
but super strength gives you that power of the animal if not more right?

>>92691109
I meant Kizaru

>>92691137
ah

>>92690659
>End game players enters starting area

>>92691128
I'm just glad it wasn't a super saiyan rip off.

>>92690659
I love the humor in this show. Oda has too much fun with his job.

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>>92691170
Give Oda a little more credit than that, man.

>>92690995
>steam happens when you perspire and you can see it when it's fucking cold out. Ever get off your fat ass and run for an while? your body is perspiring and heating up to a degree that your sweat is turning into mist.
That's gas transforming to liquid or vice versa, and that's still not the oxygen doing it. You don't prespire O2.

>Any more would cause your heart to explode, but the fucker is made of rubber so he can contain it, that's how it works.
No, the heart is because of the heavy blood flow, you literally posted it earlier, that's what they say in the fucking manga. The steam is caused by him "overheating", so yes, it's just a lot of prespiration (so mostly water), not oxygen evacuating.

>>92691029
That's not fucking nitpicking you fucking uneducated mongolian.

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Depends on their Rogues gallery I suppose. If all they do is fight deranged psychos and hooligans stretching might be considered OP as fuck

>>92691170
It reminds me a bit of SSJ4 tb, what with the chest being bare with colored arms and the eye liner.

>>92691202
I do, but all those so called leaks of gear 4 got me nurvouse.

>>92691223
>That's not fucking nitpicking you fucking uneducated mongolian.
yes it is, you got mad that oxygen that is in the blood stream is being pumped in the body of luffy and that's how it works.

>>92691276
>Whatever they're never going to beat the hype of gigant pistol
>GOMU GOMU NO
>No OP don't even fucking try this is stupid gangura trash
>KONG GUN
>Holy shit YES YOU ARE THE BEST PROTAG EVER

>>92691223
>(so mostly water)
H2O doesn't have oxygen again, what is oxygen? a gas.

Super strength is nothing without super durability. Being able to punch really hard is nice one on one but too much and you'd break your own bones trying and that's still one on one.

>>92690785
This. People seem to forget that, Plastic Man is not literally made of plastic, he's a shapeshiffter capable of control his whole buddy structure, there was a time were reform from a bit of blood inside guy

>>92691339
That's what the main character has to deal with in BnHA

>>92691223
>No, the heart is because of the heavy blood flow, you literally posted it earlier, that's what they say in the fucking manga. The steam is caused by him "overheating", so yes, it's just a lot of prespiration (so mostly water), not oxygen evacuating.
what the fuck am I reading, Oxygen isn't a part of water now?

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>>92691270
that's the kabuki look
if you look it up its to show they have godly powers or some shit. But still it's really creative how he turned luffy in to a Japanese Air God Suijin I think his name was.

>>92691324
eh, he's the most fun I had with a protag in a long time at least.

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>Luffy was my least favourite crew member at the start
>By the end of Arlong Park he was near the top
>By the end of pic related he permanently took the #1 spot
How can one protagonist become so based

>>92690994
A detail I noticed at the dinner scene when the kids are fighting really showed Helen's expertise.

When she snared Dash, she first pushed him back but while doing so, formed a loop with her arm which went along so when he was pushed he was quickly wrapped.

With Violet, Helen's arm was swung at an angle so when Vi was pushed, the swinging force had her arm swing around and ensared her in one swoop. Impressive seeing she has been out of action for so long.

>>92691440
I guess it's because his strength stay has a constant, he had to work around with what he had until his power up after the time skip.

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>>92691334
>yes it is, you got mad that oxygen that is in the blood stream is being pumped in the body of luffy and that's how it works.
Actually, I got mad at the suggestion that he was pumping oxygen from outside of his body directly into his bloodstream through his legs because that's what you suggested happened before.

>>92691334
H2O=/=O2
O2 can be a gas, a liquid or a solid. So can H2O but at different tempereatures.
Your muscles use O2, and in the process your body rejects CO2 in gas form via breathing. Prespiration has nothing to do with this process, but with your body trying to regulate its temperature (as stated even in One Piece that he's overheating, and not breathing through his skin).
Oxygen, as an atom, exists in tons of molecules that have different properties at different temperatures.

This is seriously middle school level shit.

I'm done here, have a nice day.

>>92691440
>>Luffy was my least favourite crew member at the start

But at the start, he was the ONLY crew member

>>92691440
The subbed version stood out for me with how they emphasized the attack with the subtitles.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOQRTsFw1Eo

>>92691440
I thought the ending to the Lucci fight was a letdown.

He hits Luffy with that Rokuougan twice, Luffy coughs up blood, eyes go white like a typical knockout, then all of a sudden he's behind Lucci. Then Lucci just lets himself get hit and lose.

I know Lucci has to lose and the story has to progress, but it just felt so forced to me.

>>92691133
One guy with super strength against ten grizzly bears intent on the kill and commanded to work together, I'd put money on the bears. Angry bears don't fuck around. Romans learned that when they put bears against lions in Colosseum fights.

>>92691377
O2, which your body uses as fuel for your muscle, is not a part of H2O.
Did none of you people have chemistry classes?

>>92691360
I really want more super criminals fully reformed in this day and age. We never get that anymore where it sticks permanently. Plastic Man, Song Bird and Hawk Eye should be the only ones.

>>92691473
>Actually, I got mad at the suggestion that he was pumping oxygen from outside of his body directly into his bloodstream through his legs because that's what you suggested happened before.
I was pointing out that he is pumping the oxygen in his body causing more blood pressure. When doing so he creates a steroid effect. Did I say into? not what I meant, he pumps his blood by make pressure in his legs and that uses more oxygen causing his body to heat up.

>>92691529
This ending, and the ending against Crocodile

Is Gatling in all it's forms Luffy's most based attack?

>>92691473
>as stated even in One Piece that he's overheating, and not breathing through his skin).
no one said he was breathing through his skin.

>>92691542
Of course it was forced. Luffy was at his limit and ready to collapse. He remembered what he was fighting for and forced himself to get up and deliver the finishing move. He had to power through his own pain and exhaustion.

>>92691545
I guess it would depend how super strong he was. because if out numbering is the case then why not straight up mine control?

>>92691622
I love that Luffy finishes all his fights with just punching, but Oda somehow manages to make every finishing punch more epic than the last. You'd think it'd get boring, but it never does. It's always satisfying.

>>92691550
for you muscles to work harder and keep up the pace they need Oxygen.

>>92691617
I see it too much in anime so I'm good on that front.

>>92691630
>>92690303
>Pumping air directly in to the blood stream
Might be just a big misunderstanding though.

>>92691462
She's probably been doing that sort of crowd control a lot so it makes sense. When she needs to pick up actual superheroing again she's so clearly out of practice, makes mistakes etc. but they show you these moments where she does it 100% right or pulls off some crazy trick she knows from experience that really makes her shine.

And the kids have their own way of discovering what they can do while never really going as far as outclassing their parents. The integrate each character's arc with how they use their powers so perfectly in such a simple and visual way.

All of this while picking up a set of powers that is universally seen as lame/outdated and making it look 10x cooler than 'legit' cape movies. I love the Incredibles.

>>92691672
it's because you find an enemy who avoids it at first. It's how Luffy works around it that makes it exciting, at least to me. Now Haki is here kinda takes away that excitment.

>>92691700
that'd what it seems then

>>92691721
Yeah, Oda realized Logias were too strong so they needed an off switch.

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>>92691622
It's hard for anything to compete honestly. It's aesthetically pleasing, strong as shit, and served as the finishing move to two of Luffy's greatest fights.
>anime showing gattling in slow mo showing every single collision in full detail
Fucking perfect

>>92691676
They need O2 or dioxygen, a molecule composed of 2 oxygen (O) atoms.

https://chemistry.stackexchange.com/questions/65979/what-is-the-difference-between-o-o2

>>92691766
until they learn to Haki their power. Then who knows what then.

>>92691805
but isn't that O2 passed to the muscles by the bloodcells?

>>92691827
It is.

>>92691617
Redeem fucking Croc that fucker literally got fucked by life because of his disease, social status and the prejudice of people, why Batman nevers try to help him?

>>92691908
cuz he eats people?

http://www.cbr.com/by-any-stretch-the-15-coolest-characters-with-elastic-powers/

Not exactly the best list...

>>92692040
>1. Reed
PFFFTHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>92692040
>Ms. Incredible lower than Kamala
oh come the fuck on

>>92691660
Mind controlling is too simplistic for me and less interesting than localized mind control on things that are sentient rather then sapient, and even then, I'd rather read about someone who animals simply respect as an alpha enough to do what he or she says rather then having to resort to mind control. I suppose that's why I like Aquaman, he doesn't mind control sealife, he's their king, they follow him because he commands them as a leader.

>>92690168
>>92690210
Niggers, he's contracting and expanding his body like a pump, pushing blood through every vessel faster.
Because he's rubber they don't burst from the pressure, he turns red and his sweat just evaporates out of his pores from the heat.

The logic leap is faster + hotter blood = faster and stronger person.
It has nothing to do with pumping air or his heart.

>>92692040
I didn't expect luffy tp be there at all but plastic man is pretty low.

>>92692394
oh

>>92691908
Croc is too unstable to be fully redeemed, same reason I don't like Harley being fully redeemed. Riddler was great as a detective, DC should have kept that; not as a super hero, running round doing super hero things mind you, but simply as a guy trying to make Gotham less shitty.

>>92692444
riddler was a detective?

>>92692464
For a bit yeah.

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>>92692464
For a little while, yeah. Bruce kept fabricating cases to keep him busy.

>>92692502
that's sick, how did it work out?

>>92692444
Harley was a damaged chick girls could latch on too. Bugs me to that she's a good guy.

>>92691617
There are a couple or Spider-Man and Iron Man villains I'd like to see redeemed, mostly Iron Man villains because who cares about Iron Man's villains? Mandarin is pretty much the only one that have any gravitas and works as what he is.

Guys like Sandman though? I would love to see ol'sandy get a good end,

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>>92692615
Being damaged is fine, but Harley being a good guy when she's been an accomplice to some of Joker's most fucked up crimes let alone shit she's done herself? Fuck that.

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>>92692681
>Iron Man villains I'd like to see redeemed
I liked him in Thunderbolts, too.

>>92692565
Batman messed it up as usual.

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>>92692681
>who cares about Iron Man's villains?
I like Technovore.

>>92692869
And I like Whiplash but we are in the minority. I'd much rather see whip be in Thunderbolts then doing dumb villain shit though.

>>92688794
>making Usopp a plant user instead of the trickster/sniper he was shaping up to be was the worst change to me.
He's still the exact same fighter, he just has actual powermoves now. If anything, Usopp's entire development has been about growing, so giving him fast-growing seed pods as a weapon is perfect. He's still sniping, and he's still tricky.

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>>92693177
I consider her a size shifter more than elastic.

>>92692394
>It has nothing to do with pumping air or his heart.
It has to do with his heart, specifically that because he's rubber his heart doesn't explode from the pressure. It is a technique only Luffy could really pull off.

>>92686090
No, comic characters are all so ridiculously OP that it's not even funny. To the point where it almost seems like just bad writing.

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>>92693303
Could of fooled me.

>>92693478
>Could OF fooled me.
Could HAVE fooled me.

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>>92693478
ok?

>>92687360
In anime, definitely.

In comics/western animatiom, I vote Plastic Man or Teen Titans Madam Rouge.

The only advantage Rouge has over Plas is that she can change her color scheme, and her stretching somehow translates into speed she can use to catch someone as fast as Kid Flas

>>92693628
Yeah she was ridiculous there. Wonder if she was like that in the comics.

>>92691440
Eines Lobby is a shit arc and Usopp is the best crew member.

>>92692560
Does anyone have that page with Batman, Riddler and Detective Chimp discussing a case on a forum?
>>92692681
>Sandman's good end in Spectacular Spider-man

>>92693905
>Usopp's best arc is the worst arc
??

>>92689056
Dude skypia was the best arc, best build up, best back story, best finale and most importantly best cheesecake what more do you want?

>>92694025
Water 7 isn't Eines Lobby.
Eines Lobby is one of the arcs where the series completely devolves into boring battle shounen without much personality/flair to it.
I never said it was the worst arc, just a shitty one. The worst arc, hands down, is War of the Best.
Usopp's best arc could be argued to be his first appearance, Thriller Barc, Dressrosa, or Water 7 imho.
I'm a bit behind though, last I read was Luffy leaving with the rabbit girl and some of the crew to go get Sanji back.

>>92694049
Come on, nothing beats Impel Down.

>Hannibal's amazing speech about why Luffy is ultimately evil
>Mr. 2
>Luffy getting absolutely destroyed and sent to hell
>Magellan soloing the entire blackbeard crew
>Motherfucking Buggy

>>92694049
Structurally speaking, everything in Alabasta from the moment the enter the Grand Line is the best arc. My personal favorite is Skypeia but that's because of how strong the mythology is.

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>>92694175
>Motherfucking Buggy
Damn straight. Too bad anime kinda ruins him with LOL SO FUNNAY moments
>"Hey you born in the 90's! These are called stilts!"
>Farting manticores
>That entire multi scene moment with Magellans poison wall and Buggy taking a piss

>>92691542
It was an editorial decision to keep the fight going after the gear three reveal

>>92694225
I'd argue everything pre-grand line is where the series shines.

>>92694225
On paper Skypiea is great. Proving that an island in the sky exists and saving it's people from an evil God? That's a fucking fantastic adventure.
But, to me at least, it's a slog to get through. A bit better binge watched but most things are.

>>92694386
Baratie was pretty weak. No one likes or remembers Krieg.

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>>92694339
That's way it always felt like that was supposed to be the final punch to take down lucci

>>92694421
Lucci would've been remembered as a total bitch in that case. Now he's a top tier villain because he basically says "yeah fuck that" and fights back in a long, gruesome fight of attrition.

>>92694386
It definitely had a different structure. Every Island adventure ended with then saving the day and then getting run out of town. Of course I this (and this >>92694411) as a filthy dub fag so I'm not sure how things have been turning out post time skip.

>>92694505
Dubbed flawhats will be glorious

>>92694411
Basing your Skypiea opinion on the shit anime adaptation is a mistake. I used to think it was bad until I went back and read the whole series. The pacing in the manga version is nowhere near as much of a slog. But it doesn't matter, because Jaya ended up being a way better arc than Skypiea.

>>92694417
I wholeheartedly disagree. Baratie was probably the weakest of them, but it's nowhere near bad. Krieg wasn't a great villain, but Mihawk and early series Sanji completely save the arc. I loved the series until War of the Best, but I definitely enjoyed the startup the most.

>>92694582
Enel's first encounter with Luffy is superior in the anime though.

>>92694582
Sanji went full retard feeding a dude with every intention to steal his master's ship. I don't care how he can sympathize with someone starving, it's just plain dumb.

>>92694633
Not enough of an improvement to merit how bad the leadup to it was.

>>92694709
I'm like, 97% sure he didn't know that guy was evil at that point. He got kicked out for not having any money, so Sanji fed him.
You find out he works for Krieg when Krieg shows up later.

>>92694761
You're misremembering. He fed Krieg too.

>>92694784
I just read through the wiki, that's not how it happened. Zeff gave Krieg food when he showed up AFTER Sanji gave the black haired guy food.

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Dann, that stretch length seems rather subpar.

>>92694709
He spent 85 days starving on a rock as a kid. He knows damn well how agonizing an empty stomach is.

>>92694582
>Jaya ended up being a way better arc than Skypiea
Jaya was what made Skypeia so great. The fact that we spent enough time on Jaya to give a shit made Skypeia worthwhile, and the reveal of what Skypeia's land section was was worth it.

Skypeia is best the adventure arc, hands down.
>begins with a ship falling from the sky and a quote from an actual explorer
>salvaging a sunken ship for clues, get scared off by gigantic shadows
>all the talk of myths, lies, and adventure on Jaya
>South Bird using animal magnetism as worldbuilding
>actually taking the spout to the skies
>new land, new culture, new abilities that will later become slightly more commonplace, new threat
>connection between Jaya and Skypeia reveal
>that fucking backstory
>Enel's unparalleled smugness
>end by explaining the shadows as legit scientific phenomenon
>the fucking Blackbeard reveal

>>92694709
>it's just plain dumb.
Sanji is defined by his etiquette even within irrational conditions. Even with his life on the line, he won't strike a woman, and even with his life at stake, he won't let someone go hungry. Sanji has strong principles, whether you agree with them or not.

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>>92685741
>It is seen as a goofy power of a bygone era, like talking to animals
Why you gotta be mean though?

>>92694962
Too bad characters actually die now because it really weakened a lot of the drama back then.

Wiper's buddies were getting offed like flies by Enel but then it's just a knock out. Aisa was screaming her head off when that happened making it sound like they died. Hell, Conis's dad survived Raigoh. Plus Wiper using a "life-threatening" Reject Dial.

Glad people can actually die in the present now.

>>92694854
All of the characters in the movie are relatively low powerlevel.
Mr. Incradible himself is like Colossus levels of strength. Dash is below sound speed iirc.

>>92695480
To be fair, there have been a certain power level-inflation in comics as of late. Supes is immortal, the flash is more broken than meta knight and every god damn superhero have tackled with the likes of a god. This is a critisism I have of both marvel and DC.

>>92688981
No

>>92691440
>>92691529
oddly enough i like the dubbed version of this scene.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NmtmA-Qoas

Luffy's VA goes ham

>>92696370
Colleen Clinkenbeard voices Erza in Fiery Tail too. Lady can scream.

>>92696370
My main problem with the dub is that the voice acting for random pirate and marine mooks as well as other background characters is pretty poor. The main cast sound fine tho

>>92691223
I always assumed that the steam was his sweat. Like hes generating so much heat in his body that his sweat immediately evaporates

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>>92696510
Fucking this, dub is solid for any main character
Also the fake crew in Return to Sabaody is the main cast doing bad impressions of the 4kids actors

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>>92697128

>>92688981
definitely

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>>92694854

>>92697080
That's hysterical. I gotta get caught up.

>>92688794
Nigga, did you see the snipe Usopp did with Sugar?

>>92687924
>A feather can suddenly hit like it weights 800 tons if it is fast enough
no

air friction would cause it to burn, faggot

stop using naruto physics in the real world

>>92685791
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VmGXN92wBiY
What is the best Plastic Man run?

>>92697080
Shit, sauce?

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One bit i didn't fully get back in the movie was the scene when the door closed on Elastigirl's torso, prompting her to go back. Why is that?

>>92697768
Surprise?

>>92693431
Except it is funny, that's the point of Plas you fun hating faggot

>>92698016
I always viewed this as making herself longer more than pulling herself to get farther but I guess I was wrong.

>>92686418
>Plastic Man is literary unbeatable and immune against all kinds of attacks
woo boy, already getting shit wrong

>>92698160
He's the most powerful member of the JLA.

But for real, the guy almost suffocated when they stuffed him in a bag.

>>92685741
>outdated
What historical era appropiated the concept of stretching?

>>92697747
https://youtu.be/hY2z2V2FBzA
That anon was half right, fake Nami and Usopp are kind of impressions of their 4kids voices, fake Sanji and Robin have their 4kids accents, but fake Luffy just sounds like a fat guy

>>92697155
That was neat. I imagine Bats and Chimp have just deduced each other's identities?

>>92698367
Probably the Golden Age of comics when any power blew everyone's minds.

>>92694421
>>92694504
To be honest the most emotional parts of that fight involving Usopp happened after the Gear 3rd reveal. To say nothing of how badass Lucci and Luffy were by the end for the sheer bloody minded persistence of the pair of them continuing that war of attrition.

I'm glad it didn't end with that one punch.

>>92688794
The plants are just one more weird specialty ammo for Usopp, something that he was all about from the very start.

And did you forget that miles-long sniper shot Usopp made in Dressrosa where he had to account for multiple changing wind currents and 3 different trajectories because of the booster rockets on his ammo? That shit was badass as hell.

>>92686090
If Haki let's him hurt him?
Yes.
If it doesn't?
No.

>>92688097
Because you have to go faster than light to go back in time.

>>92690056
Reminds me of Gluttony from Full Metal Alchemist.

>>92688981
The first couple of arcs are slow, once you reach Baratie you should like it, Arlong Park comes after that which is the first of One Piece's many fantastic arcs.

I love it, man. Didn't at first, but it's my favourite weekly now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oA_ZkijwmgY

Usopp's fails are way more funny than being just scared all the time.

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>>92690501
>>92691074
The Strongest Devil fruit we've seen was the Paw-paw fruit. At it's full power there's really nothing anyone can do to stop it. Kuma was so strong Oda had to write him out of the series.

>>92691262
Why does this have the young versions of everyone except Buffalo?

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>>92699572
Wrong. The Soul Soul fruit is the most broken power.

Mama can use her power to bring things to life under her control. An uncreative person might not think this is that good a power. But Big Mom used it to bring the fucking weather to life, so now she can create hurricanes. Imagine what else she could do.

What's stopping her from bringing the Earth's tectonic plates to life, giving her earthquake powers like Whitebeard had?

>>92700604
then there wont be as much good food if everything is fucked I assume. Same reasoning for Whitebeard, whats the point of having all that territory if its just a bunch of floating piles of rubble.

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>>92700604
Could Kuma push the souls back out?

>>92686595
>defending bounce bounce man 2017 and having a life

>>92700800
That's to silly to not work it would make perfect sense.
>>92700970
It's also dumb and I love it.

>>92685864
Luffy isn't a hero though, heroes share their meat.

>>92696370
eh, the English VA gets too shrieky for my opinion, she needs to take that moment and pull it from her gut more.

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>>92700800
Yes. Kuma can push anything out of anything. Even himself.
Souls, damage, age, stamina, devil fruit powers, whatever.

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>tfw just caught up about 50 chapters and only have one left to read

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>>92701312
Not my kind of heroes,

>>92701807
Also I'm pretty sure Ceasar is going to end up joining the crew.

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>>92702211
The man who performed 100% lethal chemical experimentation on kidnapped children (which he knew wouldn't work and was just playing up to Big Mom so she'd keep in bankrolled... which he spent on whores), freely killed his own underlings in droves, straight-up murdered Doflamingo's secretary while trying to do so to Smoker, and talked shit to and about Luffy's crew at every juncture?

Yeah, can't really see that happening.

>>92702862
They've been giving him a lot of pathos lately and One Piece has a huge habit of redeeming irredeemables.

I?m not going to pretend it's a safe prediction at all, but at this point what are they going to do with him after this arc?

>>92685741
Shapeshifting>Elasticity all day everyday

>>92703066
He either goes with Capone or fucks off with his own thing for a while. I mean absolutely none of the crew like his ass. Besides we already got Jinbei and maybe Carrot joining the crew

>>92703066
If I had to guess, I'd say the same thing that happened to Caribou (serial killer), Mr. 3 (hitman), and Wapol (murderous despot). He'll be humiliated, then relegated to extended supporting cast through cover arcs.

I mean, this was a man who ordered the abduction of dozens of children (implied to have been hundred over time), drugged them into a stupor, and was subjecting them to a growth hormone he knew would kill them for the sake of Big Mom's research despite knowing the research was flawed and wouldn't produce anything. He was murdering children for fuck-money. You can't sell that as one of the lead protagonists for your kids' adventure story.

>>92703386
Honestly if Vivi reappeared and joined I'd buy it more than Cesar. Like her suddenly reappearing and heading towards the Straw Hats can't be random

>>92703386
Carrot ain't joining any more than Kinemon was.

>>92703441
Fair enough.

>>92703600
Depending on how the Reverie goes down, that could happen. Doubt it though

>>92687532

To be fair, neither could Magellan and he is considered Logia

>>92703932
Paramecia actually

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>>92703066
>One Piece has a huge habit of redeeming irredeemables

Will Luffy restore her smile?

>>92685741
Can you imagine if One Piece got as big as Jojo on the internet?

[something supernatural or wacky happens]

Is dat a 1-Peace reference? WE WUZ Ds.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xUeaLmNDpG8

>>92691780
Even better is that you can essentially use it to spider-man swing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdatEFBG8FE