Where are you?

>>92658195
Acceptance, damage has been done, nothing we can do about it.

Extra episode?

>>92658195
Acceptance.
We expected too much from Genndy, and so we were disappointed.
Another cartoon will come, perhaps it might surpass SJ.

>>92658195
Denial.
Much rather make my own ending.

>>92658195
>Denial
What what? No, this can't be it. Where's the rest of it? There's no way it can end like this.
>Anger
What the hell Genndy? We've been waiting over a decade for Jack to return to the past but not at the cost of everyone he ever knew and loved becoming nonexistant.
>Bargaining
Maybe if Jack finds the Guardian in the past and uses that portal to go back to the alternate future, everything will be alright.
>Depression
No, Genndy says he's done with the series. All hope is gone. It's just my headcanon.
>Acceptance
Jack finally accomplished his goal and defeated the ultimate evil. I should be happy for him. He's accepted his losses but everyone will be for the better in the end. He will find that happiness within himself someday.

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>>92658195
I was OK since the beggining.

>>92658195
Acceptance

N/a, the ending was legit good, the more I sit with it the more I like it thematically.

I'm in a constant state of acceptance about most things. I'm much happier this way

>>92658195
I already accepted the ending would be trash after episode 7.

>>92658195
acceptance.
I'm just happy that one of favorite shows from my childhood got an ending.

It was ok, I think. Sure I expected something different but what happened wasn't that far-fetched. I put the blame on the first 3 episodes which filled us with expectations that the series, almost immediately afterwards strafed away from.

I just watched the last episode right this second

I'm mostly ok with it I guess, I'm just disappointed with how much focus was on Ashi. I don't necessarily hate the character but I waited this long to see Jack defeat Aku, not Jack and Ashi defeat Aku. It was supposed to be a story about a wandering warrior on a quest to defeat evil, not a love story

>>92658300
How the fuck would he get back to the past and not erase everyone?

>>92658195
Indifference.

>>92658195
Anger still

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>>92658195
Satisfied

I blame the first 3 episodes for the high expectations. They were so fucking good.

>>92658195
I genuinely expect the future to disappear it always seemed logical to me. I also appreciated that killing Aku was basically effortless to Jack. I mean it would have been dumb after 50 years to expect Aku to pull something out of his ass that would give Jack trouble.

>>92658195
>never cared
it was an awful season but I was never attach to the show
However Genndy is one again confirming my opinion that letting creators run wild is always a bad idea.

>>92658996
that and they felt like Jack having a real adventure when come episode 5 onward it felt like it was getting unhinged in narratives.

>>92659092
>is one again confirming my opinion that letting creators run wild is always a bad idea.
Jesus, no.
It's not our fault that the animation industry is filled with hacks.

Denial.
I don't get over things, I fix them up.

Friendly reminder that the 5 stages has no empirical evidence whatsoever and not even their author wants people to take it seriously

>>92658195
Depression.
This means everyone he has met and everything he has done has been erased.

Sure he saved the world. But how can Jack go from a super advanced future with flying cars, robots and lasers that he has lived in for 50 years to a feudal Japan with horses and bows?

Will he just wander the world hell depressed until he dies alone as an old man?

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>>92658195
Been sitting at phase two for a while now. I might jump to Bargaining soon and read the comic.

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>>92658195

I would be happy if at least Gendy didn't forsaken the characters from the future.


>Everything the same, but good i.e not rushed.
>Roll credits.
>Post credits scene.
>Jack steps foward in a dark place.
>There's a big light coming from the roof and a big blue man in a suit, wearing red glasse standing in front of the light.
>Jack stares from under his hat.
>"So, mah man... you plan to use this portal to bring back you lil' friends from the future huh? Or was it YOUR past? Hah! Not gonna happen."
>Jack keep staring his eyes are visible now.
>"You see mah man... there's only one man who will use this portal"
>(Portal shows King Jack)
>"And you mah man... Ain't. That. Man."
>Jack draws his sword.
>"If that's the only man who will earn your blessing to use this portal fear not... I'm not here asking for permission."
>Guardian Laughs "HAH! HAH! HAH!" then draws a big katana from his back"
>They charge at each other and start fighting.
>Jack uses his horse cut technique while we hear his toughts "Ashi I'm coming"
>From the sparks of the blades there's a fadeway to a white place (the limbo maybe?) where we see Ashi floating in nothingness.
>Close to the her face while the screen goes black.
>"I'm waiting"

>WACHA!

Still denial, considering that I am trying to rely on headcannons.

I'm angry about it, but I've accepted it. At least Ashi was erased from existence

>>92658195
I guess bargaining as well for the same reasons.

>>92658219
>>92658234
This.
Damage is done, don't care anymore.

>>92658830
But it was entirely Jack who defeated Aku. Ashi was literally a plot device there, he could have found another portal or something.

If the series ending meant that all of the characters and settings I'd ended up getting attatched to were wiped from existence, I'd have rather the show stayed on hiatus.

I still think it would have been a better ending for Jack to have not been able to go back to the past, but instead realizing that his destiny was to help rebuild the future into something great. Jack realized that after all these years, the future WAS his home.

>>92662785
>"And you mah man... Ain't. That. Man."
I already told you, anon: drop this line, it's OOC as fuck now.

It's such a shame because the first three episodes were really good. Ashi and her lack of personality ruined it.

>>92664183
Opposite for me, Ashi's death is really the only reason I'm pissed at the ending.

>>92664183
>>92664294
At least neither of you are one of those people pissed at BOTH Ashi's very existence in the show and her being killed off. That's just fucked up.

Acceptance. I didn't like how the season turned out but it was all worth it just for the first four episodes and seeing the Scotsman again.

>>92664334
As an adamant Ashi-fag I actually understand the sentiment of hating her and hating her death.
She was a MAJOR part of this season, and people who didn't like her only tolerated her because they liked seeing Jack happy.
So after dealing with a season where half the focus is on a character you hate, seeing her get unceremoniously and illogically killed off last minute(and implying that the characters you DO like also disappeared) would make someone like that really pissed off.

>>92664144

You didn't watch The Guardian episode then.

>>92664423
I'm saying that BECAUSE I watched it.
You, OTOH, probably haven't *re*watched it recently.

>>92658195
>Acceptance
In my mind, the ending wasnt supposed to feel satisfying. Its not the ending we wanted but it did make sense and both jack and the viewers will have to come to terms with the reality of the situation

>>92664415
Those people should be shunned from the fandom for having such fickle emotions.

>>92664294
For me, it's both. Ashi's inclusion in the show took time away from Jack and his development from the suicidal lone warrior we saw in the first three episodes into the slayer of Aku we all knew he would become. Ashi was a poorly thought out distraction, but she was forced in our face enough that by the end I was okay with her existence, even if she was completely shallow even at the end. Her part in the resolution of the finale was ridiculously dumb, but since she was going back with Jack there was the chance for a decent end with the two of them ruling over his kingdom. But after all that time, after all that shoving Ashi down our throats and telling us that she's perfect for Jack and that she's the best and all that, she fades away in what is literally the most telegraphed melodrama I've ever seen in a cartoon, complete with fanfic-tier dying exposition. They pushed this alternate romance ending onto us only to take it away when we were more or less satisfied with it.

It's like being told you're being given a delicious steak dinner, only to find out later that instead that steak is going to be ground up and made into burgers. Then, when you're finally hungry enough that the burgers actually sound pretty good, they bring the burgers to your table then immediately throw them into the trash and tell you to eat shit for getting your hopes up.

>>92658195
Acceptance.
I thought the ending was fine.

>>92664476
In your ((((food metaphor)))) can we at least acknowledge that the burgers looked and smelled delicious by the time they arrived?
>>92664464
This guy voices it pretty well>>92664464 and it isn't fickle

>Bargaining
Even though the finale was lacking in time and budget, it did what the series originally set out to do, with Jack finally returning to the past and undoing the future that is Aku

However, I wouldn't be opposed if, in a couple years time, the demand for a proper sendoff is enough to warrant a movie redoing the finale ala End of Evangelion

>>92664553
Whoops i meant>>92664476 voices it pretty well

>>92664553
The burgers looked acceptable. "Well, I'm hungry, and the restaurant is closing soon, so burgers are fine I suppose."

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I've been in acceptance as of episode 7
I knew there was no way it was going to end on a truly satisfying note once Ashi's importance became apparent, so i just enjoyed the ride while I could.

>>92664577
>end of evangelion
I'm not quite done with it so I don't want spoilery details. But I'm aware of how legendary and controversial the ending is, did they really go back and change it with a movie?

>>92658195
Acceptance because I'm still glad we got it even if nothing was as good as the first three episodes.

you people are gonna complain about it for the next 13 years arent you

it was far from perfect but it was a good ending all things considered

>>92664445

Then explain you dumbass, why the guardian said he was not that man yet?

>>92664616
The creators never fully confirmed that it was a replacement ending, but it is largely accepted as the true finale to the series

>>92664624
>Thank you for shitting in my mouth, it was better than nothing

>>92664445
>>92664423
I caught the miscommunication between you two and I'm gonna address it.
>>92664423
The fanfic this anon is supporting is set in the past, where the guardian has not met Jack and would not recognize him as king
>>92664445
This anon is saying the guardian wouldnt say "you mah man..etc" because he learned about king Jack at the end of the episode, and has no reason to not recognize him. However, in the fanfic ending, Jack looks the same as he did in the first fight, and past guardian has not met him, so would likely say "you mah man...etc"

Did that help you guys?

>>92664719
But was it a retcon to the original ending?

I fucking loved the ending, so I'm not in any stage.

>>92658195
Fanficing

I didn't expect much and still I was let down by a really half cooked rushed ending that didn't in the least satisfy me or gave me the big fight I wanted to see

>>92664743

Wrong. The Guardian was talking to himself how Jack was not that man yet.

I really don't understand how you guys are not understanding this concept it's so simple.

THE GUARDIAN WILL NOT LET ANYONE BAR KING JACK USE THE PORTAL EVEN REGULAR JACK WILL NOT PASS.

Not mind it. It is just a cartoon. You should find bigger problems for your life and stopping caring so much about characters from a hobby.

>>92664903
I tried, have fun with your argument

>>92658195
Pretty firmly in bargaining or denial. They could come out of nowhere with something different or the DVD release could have something, or Genndy could come out and say something. I don't know.

i never got overhyped
i just wanted jack to go back and kill aku

>>92664811
so denial, then?

>>92664771
Short answer: Yes

Long answer: It's up to the interpretation of the viewer whether End of Evangelion is the same finale as the TV version from a different perspective or a complete retcon of the ending. I personally think it's the latter.

The only reason why End of Evangelion actually exists was because fans were mad at the original ending, so it being a retcon of the ending just makes sense

>>92664859
>or gave me the big fight I wanted to see
The fight in the future wasn't enough? What the fuck is wrong with all of you shitheads!?

Forever in denial because that ending was nonsense that defeated itself.
Supposed to believe that Ashi sent Jack back in the past, but also that Ashi never existed, but also that Jack has memories of her from months where she did exist.
No.

Simplify things and just say the Gods brought her back as a reward to both of them and to ensure they, and any resulting children, are around to fight Aku/similar evils should they ever appear again.

>>92665043
>The fight in the future wasn't enough?
Jack didn't fight Aku in the future. He didn't do a goddamn thing.

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I want Aku to come back.

I want to protect his smile.

Why did he have to die, /co/?

>>92664943
This anon is saying the guardian wouldnt say "you mah man..etc" because he learned about king Jack at the end of the episode, and has no reason to not recognize him. However, in the fanfic ending, Jack looks the same as he did in the first fight, and past guardian has not met him, so would likely say "you mah man...etc"

Oops, sorry that is actually more tought of than my version, I read only one part and rushed to a conclusion. I'm very sorry.

>the show
Stage 5
>the constant threads about the show
Stage 2

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>>92658195
After the episode ended on Saturday night, I kept switching between denial and anger.

For the past few days now, I've been switching between all of these. Today, however, I'm stuck between depression & acceptance: I'm mourning the loss of Ashi and this show, and I'm coping with the fact that there will never ever be another new episode, as well as no more fun Saturday night talkback threads.

>>92664476
>Ashi was a poorly thought out distraction
This, she was a literal fucking plot device and didn't need to take up as much time as she did doing what amounted to nothing. Any development for her as a character was pointless in the end.

>an alternate ending for the boxset
There's one that was storyboarded and put on youtube.
The gods reward Jack by bringing back a naked Ashi and Jack embraces and tells her that this is their new home.

I wasn't expecting much, so I'm overall pleased. Though the pleasure is mostly from watching everyone shit their pants. You are all so much more entertaining than Jack ever could be and I thank Genndy for this bounty.

>>92665615
That was just fan-made

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>>92658195
I started of angry and sad, but the more I thought about it, the more I liked it.

Do you understand why he's smiling?
>Jack knows that the tainted future filled with billions of doomed souls has been alleviated of suffering
>Jack knows that countless other young couples like him and Ashi have been spared
>He knows that even though Ashi is gone, her actions have improved the lives of countless people, and that because of this she's more than just a memory
>Ashi gave him his life back and her actions created a world full of beauty and tranquility, something that the two of them cared more about than anything and is unbelievably romantic
>Jack knows how much Ashi loved him, and that she would want him to live a happy life in her absence, even maybe finding love again
>The red string of fate and they symbolism of ladybugs, along with lots of the afterlife rules that apply to eastern mythology dictate that souls exist outside of space and time, suggesting the two of them may meet again someday in the next world
>The future itself was an abomination that went against the will of the universe's creators, Jack, let alone anybody shouldn't have been there in the first place

I think the general reaction here and on other places across the internet speaks more to how most modern people are unable to acknowledge that suffering is an inherent part of life, and that suffering itself can actually lead to a fuller and more introspective life that allows people to truly cherish what they have.

Being sad is okay, and if Jack is content and has made peace with it, so should we.

I just kinda wish that Jack had an actual skirmish with Aku even before Aku possessed Ashi. Otherwise, I was fine with the actual ending.

>>92658195
none because i thought the ending was great
if you want jack to stay in the future, read the comics

>>92665837
I'll shorten that for you: what lies before him is an eternal life of a virgin and pondering on how he fucked up everyone he loved, apart from his parents who he had not seen for couple of decades and who are old husks and will soon die (they tried to retcon it, but I hope no one got fooled). He smiles because bug, although he didn't even know what ladybug means (don't even try with "she told him offscreen", that's beyond bs for a scene of such importance).

>>92665837
How can you have an afterlife if you never existed?
Besides that, I don't think you understand why people are pissed off at the ending. The themes were all over the place and the ending doesn't really match the rest of the tone of the series. When Genndy mentioned he wanted to have a bittersweet ending and Ashi was introduced, it was a huge red flag the entire season was going to be written for her and then killed for cheap emotional impact. Completely ignoring the fact Genndy just erased all the characters we grew up with in the future, people don't have to be content with this contrived forced ending just because Genndy wrote it like that.

It was a pyrrhic victory, he may have went back into the past and undo Aku's future, but he lost absolutely everything. That's hardly a reason to celebrate or feel happy about.

>>92665837
>I think the general reaction here and on other places across the internet speaks more to how most modern people are unable to acknowledge that suffering is an inherent part of life, and that suffering itself can actually lead to a fuller and more introspective life that allows people to truly cherish what they have.
Don't you fucking pretend you're so "above" it all because you made up some faux-inspirational bullshit to justify the end. All the shit you just said would have made sense if ANY of the preceeding episodes had hinted at that being the moral, or that there was any sort of logic to the end beyond "JACK'S WAIFU IS DEAD YOU MUST CRY NOW".

>>92666007
That's how I feel. Jack's spent his life building these bonds and becoming a savior to thousands of people, but instead of trying to fix the future and helping the people who idolizes he just erases them instead.

What does he have waiting for him back in the past? "Normal" life, stripped of everything he'd worked so hard for? Stripped of all of the friends he'd made, the people who looked up to him? That's fucked.

Jack fucked up big time by going back in time. He should have killed or sealed away Aku in the blade, and then paved the way for a brighter future.

The past is the past. The damage is done. The route they took only served to cheapen the gravity of the entire series, as if to say "None of it mattered, now that the past is fixed."

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>>92666007
>How can you have an afterlife if you never existed?
Nobody knows how the afterlife works anon, but based upon the mythology Samurai Jack's story and universe is derived from, that their reunion may be a possibility.
>Besides that, I don't think you understand why people are pissed off at the ending.
I agree with most people here that the pacing and execution could have been done a lot better, but my original post addresses the last scene specifically.
>When Genndy mentioned he wanted to have a bittersweet ending and Ashi was introduced, it was a huge red flag the entire season was going to be written for her and then killed for cheap emotional impact.
Fair point, but still I think she was a good vehicle for expanding Jack's character. He needed to sacrifice something more than just his wacky cast of future friends.
>Completely ignoring the fact Genndy just erased all the characters we grew up with in the future, people don't have to be content with this contrived forced ending just because Genndy wrote it like that.
We don't know if they were erased and we never will. For all we know they could have been born into a much happier Aku-less future. Not to mention the countless billions he saved from a horrible death at the hands of Aku
>It was a pyrrhic victory, he may have went back into the past and undo Aku's future, but he lost absolutely everything.
That's hardly a reason to celebrate or feel happy about.
True heroes must suffer if their victory is to have any meaning. Ashi surviving would have been absolute dogshit, and I say this as a massive jashifag.

>>92666014
>Faux-inspirational bullshit to justify the end.
These ideas are nothing new. Go read some Schopenhauer.

>>92666101
This whole "me me meee" mentality that lots of people are giving Jack is pure projection. The critical piece of Jack's character is that selfless to a fault and finds solace in his own tragedy by witnessing the happiness of others.

>>92666599
>Nobody knows how the afterlife works anon, but based upon the mythology Samurai Jack's story and universe is derived from, that their reunion may be a possibility.
>We don't know if they were erased and we never will. For all we know they could have been born into a much happier Aku-less future.

Well you're just making up fan-fiction at this point.

The whole universe of samurai jack is literally build up Deus ex Machina's all over the place. They just take cool shit and throw it into the show. We know that the timelines are singular, Ashi vanishing is pretty much confirming that the Futrue we knew is gone, those people never existed outside of a Aku's future. Unless Genndy comes and explains that those people will still exist, then that wouldn't explain Ashi vanishing. Basically is garbage writing.


>True heroes must suffer if their victory is to have any meaning. Ashi surviving would have been absolute dogshit, and I say this as a massive jashifag.

I don't really care about Ashi, because she was a terrible character only to serve as a plot device, but to say Heroes must suffer to give their victory meaning is complete bullshit and you sound like a pretentious idiot. The journey itself always has suffering in it, alot of the greatest stories told always have the hero going through trials. This ending was clearly forced and doesn't even match what the original series was trying to convey.

You're trying to defend this writing by fixing up genndy's story for him, when clearly this is the same guy who didn't even bother looking at his own stuff, recton a ton of shit and handwaved things that would've gotten in the way of ashi screentime. The last scene doesn't make up for bad writing.

>>92666599
>These ideas are nothing new. Go read some Schopenhauer.
I didn't say they were new, I said they weren't the intended message for the end of Samurai Jack and that you had no right to act like you're the only voice of reason on this board, you condescending faggot.

>>92658195
Acceptance but also anger

>>92658234
>we expected too much

speak for yourself, I was satisfied with the ending.

Gee, I wonder why Aku tried to stop Jack from going back instead of not giving a fuck or even encouraging him to fuck off and leave him be. For sure not because it's established that there aren't any mulriverses and all the "but... but... who knows, maybe all the characters live happily somewhere" is complete bs.

>>92667278
>and all the "but... but... who knows, maybe all the characters live happily somewhere" is complete bs.
Why would Aku care about other characters? His reaction says precisely jack shit about them.

Anyone got that diagram with timelines parallel to each other? It was a single line, just curved (angled?) around itself. It explains the timeline best.

>Ashi living is a paradox that needed to be addressed so she needed to disappear since she was never born.
>Jack going through a portal that Ashi created (Even though she never existed) is fine.
This is why time travel is a retarded plot point that should be avoided unless you go through it with a fine toothed comb to check for consistency. You want me to accept a paradox created by the supposed solving of another paradox.

>>92658312
Same.

>>92658234
Expecting ashi to live is too much?

Acceptance and/or denial in the form of hope that he comes out of retirement to do another series where some bullshit justifies him pulling Ashi out of timestream and fulfilling the King Jack image (alternate timeline unleashes new evil, Jack is still immortal, at the culmination of it all he uses the not-destroyed-in-this-timeline guardian portal)

>>92662785
>much guardian
fuck aku, fuck ashi and FUCK JACK!

we want a buddy cop show featuring scotsman and guardian!

>>92658195
Acceptance. Still arguing about it because its fun.

>>92658312
Gotta say, this schadenfreude is great.

>>92658843
fucking this
what did people expect to happen after he goes back to the past?

>>92658195
I'm still at bargaining too, hoping for (but knowing there won't be) some surprise epilogue during the marathon.

>>92658234
I honestly was with it all the way until the last 10 minutes of the finale.

>>92659939
To be fair, Jack LIKES living simply, he always has. Part of why he got along naturally with Ashi, since they both had a deep love for the natural world.

>>92659939
he really dosent seem depressed at the ending
it shows him learning to let go of the future and smile
dont cry because it's over, smile because it happened

>>92662785
That pic is kind of hard to look at now.

>>92658195
I just want a few questions answered is all. What happened to the other future? Did it disappear or branch off into its own separate timeline? If it did, does Jack defeating Aku in the past cause him to be destroyed in the alternate timeline as well?

>>92668761
Nah. He gets her back eventually.
Look at images of them and smile for they are happy.

>>92658195
Hopeful that maybe at least Twin Peaks will be better

>>92668725
I think it's pretty naive to assume the loss and grieving aren't still waiting in the wings. He's begun to heal, but it's a long road.

>>92668661
Don't say her name

Extreme dissapointment and mild confusion

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>>92668761
A lot of them are now.

Acceptance. I hit all the other stages during episode 8. Especially the end of 8. Ugh.

>>92668801
Delete this

>>92664415
This
We spent so much time on a glorified time portal

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>>92668794
What name? Do you mean ASHI?

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>>92658195
I'm in a mix of denial and anger. After how fucking amazing this season started, I can't believe how poorly the finale was handled. The runtime not being extended, no final battle with future Aku, that damn wedding scene that was cheesy as all hell, no explanation what happened to past Jack that was thrown into the future before past Aku died from future Jack. I feel like we got cheated after all these years and it really, REALLY fucking hurts.

>>92668801
>enough time passed between killing aku and the wedding to heal Jacks parents, rebuild the kingdom, and invite guests from around the world

TH-THIS COULD HAVE HAPPENED

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>>92666824
>>92666906

>>92668801
>that image
Fuck.

>>92658195
Acceptance. It wasn't perfect, but it was still a satisfying, cathartic ending.

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There is only one acceptable ending

>>92669160
Fuck ,it still hurts

>>92669160
>>92669349
Has /co/ ever been kicked in the balls/heart so hard before? I can't think of anything that comes remotely close.

>>92669160
>>92668801
These make me angry. Not because I particularly liked Ashi, but because I liked the fact that she made Jack happy, and thanks to an idiotic time travel paradox he will never be happy because "happy endings are for children".

>>92669558
The gods can bring her back, or Jack can with another portal.
I liked Ashi, but didn't initially ship them. Only started that when I saw how happy Jack was. They will find a way.
>Gotta get her back.

>>92658195
Honestly I wasn't mad. I'm surprised Genddy actually went the 'Jack gets nothing except knowing it's finished' ending, but I waited 15 years for a fucking ending and it ended.

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>>92669558
What makes it hit home is that it's really in-character for Jack and Ashi.

The same chick did this one before E6 premiered.

>>92669695
>Gotta get her back.
>Back in my life
>Samurai wife

>>92669558
>but because I liked the fact that she made Jack happy, and thanks to an idiotic time travel paradox he will never be happy because "happy endings are for children".

I thought the ending was actually happy and hopeful. It's sad, and melancholy, but it shows Jack understanding and accepting that she's gone, and that the world is alive and free. And that she chose that whole-heartedly.

>>92669862
DELETE THIS!

That was a strong candidate for the least convincing ending I ever so.

It's not bittersweet at all and there's barely any closure. Falls completely flat due to cheap drama an easy cop outs.

Appealing decision making. Why devote your extremely limited times to scenes like showing Jack's trainers. Do you really think anyone cares? At the same time many important things completely waved away.

Shocking 101 storytelling mistakes. Employing time travel as actual plot device instead of a premise when it just cannot be done properly. One of the main characters having a "tell the audience what is happening" moment, and in the final dialogue line of the entire show no less.

It was really bad. If I could go back to the past to stop myself from seeing it, I would.

>>92666101
>The past is the past. The damage is done.
Except the show literally promises that that's not true. The entire premise of Samurai Jack is getting back to the past and undoing Aku.

>>92669927
FUCK OFF

>>92669945
>Do you really think anyone cares?
I did- I always liked the African stick-man guy, especially since we got an episode about him.

>>92669903
10/10

>>92658195
Acceptance. All I wanted was for him to go back to the past. I got that. I'm satisfied. Could have gone better, but it could also have gone way much worse.

>>92669971
I think one more "muh theme song, what was actually in the show itself doesn't matter" will be enough to give me stroke.

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>>92658195
YOU WANT BITTERSWEET GENDY YOU HACK ?

HERES HOW YOU DO IT PROPERLY

>DAT BUILDUP OF GUITAR IN BACKGROUND
>DAT MUSIC KICKING IN AFTER THE FINAL LINE OF DIALOGUE

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>>92669931
Just try and enjoy it in isolation, anonymous.

Here's another one. Someone or another was speculating on what 'dirty talk' would consist of between these two. Probably this.

>>92670008
So you prefer seeing him for two seconds over, I don't know, learning what happened to the Scotsman or Jack's immortality getting addressed?

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>>92669903

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>It's a "/co/ is made up of sheltered manchildren who have never had to deal with loss, man the fuck up, and carry on for a better future" episode

normies get out reeeeeee

>>92670113
Im what would be considered a normie, good job, good looking and qt gf but Ashi death has really messed me up.

I stand in solidarity with /co/

>>92670086
Why Genndy ?

;_;

>>92670146
Going by the reactions I've seen a lot of normie-tier fans are pretty dejected too.

I actually kinda wonder how Genndy is reacting to all of this, if he even cares.

>>92665837
>suffering is an inherent part of life,

I know that. That's why I watch and read fiction, so I can escape to a world where not everything is a depressing pile of shit. I don't invest myself in these worlds and these characters just for the creator do pull some artsy fartsy bad end out of his ass so he can pat himself on the back about what a deep artist he is.

>>92658195
I was never the biggest fan of SJ but the first three episodes got my hopes up that maybe there was something worth watching on Saturday nights. Then it just switched to the Jack and Ashi romance half hour and i stopped tuning in. Watching the finale was the last bit i subjected myself to and it was like watching a train wreck. I had no other emotions other than mild annoyance that Genndy had hyped this shit up only to deliver garbage.
Well, he did what he wanted, so good on him, but he's an awful artist for completely blowing the opportunity to create something impressive and instead just go for putting his adolescent wet dream on tv.
Seriously who did the first three episodes, it sure as fuck couldnt have been genndy.

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>>92670173
I dunno, I don't have an answer.

Are we in the era of complete disappointment in media?
First MGSV, now this.

>>92670184
In an interview he said that he knew the ending would leave people divided, but that he was okay with that. Samurai Jack has always been reflective of Genndy's life experience, and the shit he had to overcome in order to make it to where he did. The man told a story that reflects his values and the events that shaped them. No fucks given, Genndy is the true winner here.

>>92670370
It was definitely divisive. Last I checked our strawpoll, it was like 35-45-20 satistifed-dissatisfied-indifferent.

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>>92670240
Guess I'll just post random funnies and cutes.

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You now realise that he's been right the whole time.

>>92670442
the more I think about it, the more I'm starting to believe the message is that people in modern life are unable to cope with loss

>>92670466
what a fucking legend

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>>92670466
Swooce the fuck outta here.

>>92670194
exactly

Samurai Jack has a world full of crazy color and characters both funny and frightening.

Its a kids show which appealed to adults due to its unique style,interesting setting and characters among other things.

Genndy decides he has to make an 'artsy'impression by ripping the guts out of the hero we've been rooting for for 15+ years.

>>92670466
>masturbating in public

>>92670503
>people in modern life are unable to cope with loss
When said loss is poorly written, they have a right to be pissed off.

I mean christ, you're defending shitty writing because "happy endings aren't realistic". By that logic fucking Tim Buckley is a literary genius and the infamous abortion strip is a work of pure, unironic art.

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>>92669903

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>>92658195
>a major plot point of the original series was jack trying to get back to the past & undo the evil that is aku

>people get upset that he finally did it

between this and people here bitching about the introduction of ashi i feel like everyone that's complaining about S5 never actually saw the show to begin with.

i honestly don't know what you were expecting?

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>>92670466
APOLOGIZE

>>92670580
>When said loss is poorly written, they have a right to be pissed off.
I've said several times that I thought the execution was horrible, but that the fundamental meaning was solid. Continue not reading someone's full argument and stay mad.

Did you seriously have to go through all five stages of grief over a fucking cartoon? It's okay to be invested; I was sad for a couple of days after the ending, but good grief, get a hold of yourselves. Aren't we the ones who laugh at Tumblr when they're LITERALLY SHAKING?

>>92670092
>what happened to the Scotsman
He died, became a scottish ghost, saved his daughters from the aku-rain, and then that time-line was erased from Jack's own and Jack got to go home. He's probably not immortal anymore because he's in his proper timeline, but if he is than that lets me have the warm glow of knowing Jack is going to live forever as a rad philosopher king of justice and samurai honor.

So no, I don't particularly care.

Personally the only thing I really hated was the fact that Jack didn't kill Aku in the future. They just... left... With the only thing capable of stopping Aku to boot. If that timeline still exists, then he's doomed them all to a life of misery as nobody can oppose Aku. Its not like FOOLISH SAMURAI grow on trees.

>>92670503
>the more I'm starting to believe the message is that people in modern life are unable to cope with loss

Wrong, its just that some of us have already experienced loss in life or maybe some of us haven't experienced anything remotely like love that having it leaking over into what is essentially escapist fun for no other reason than 'huur duur bittersweet' really leaves a bad taste.

Ive had some bad shit happen recently and Jacks,rushed, horrific and pointless end has bought it all back to me that life is unforgiving and that regardless of how good a person you are you're gonna get fucked over.

People rag on Disney for their sugar coated endings but dammit I love re watching Beauty and the Beast every few years. Id rather hammer matchsticks under my toenails than watch Samurai Jack knowing that all the interactions and friends made/saved meant nothing and despite meeting a kindred spirit whom he saves and is saved by in return he is fucked over pointlessly.

>>92670829
>They just... left... With the only thing capable of stopping Aku to boot. If that timeline still exists, then he's doomed them all to a life of misery as nobody can oppose Aku. Its not like FOOLISH SAMURAI grow on trees.

if ashi being erased from the timeline is anything to go by then that whole future never happened in the first place

>>92670648
I think people that don't create things tend to have unrealistic expectations which fuels a lot of the contrarian slant on the boards. Especially if you're an artist or writer and have had to draw or write for someone else's idea you tend to pick up very quickly that most people believe they have a solid idea of what they want but that it's actually more of a vague contradictory feeling they're aiming for. A good creator can handle this and aim to deliver on an aspect of that feeling and even exceed it which tends to leave the commissioner pretty ecstatic. However, when you're doing something like finishing samurai Jack after a decade, there is going to be a lot of these non-creator fanboys that have spent a long time reinforcing an impossible ideal that you're just never going to meet. I think a lot of the people here may have watched the original series but lack a strong sense of their own tastes. I have minor complaints about S5 but I think Genndy did a good job of ignoring the babble.

>>92670648
>character develops, becoming an actual fleshed out character who loves and has friends
>His goals which might be in slight conflict with his personal development never change
>This is good writing

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>>92670727
I think OP is being a little facetious, dude. Calm your tits.

NEVER EVER.

>>92671008
OP here
Im actually really proud my thread is so big, obviously many here can relate

I'm still at bargaining btw

BRING HER BACK

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>>92669903
Funded.

Acceptance, but it's the sad kind.

I think everything that happened in it was good, but the way it was presented in the final episode ( Ashi suddenly poofing several days after AKu's defeat, only five minutes dedicated to Jack going back, no dialogue between Jack and his parents,) was disappointing. Too many things that needed to be done in the span of 22 minutes.

One thing I think the ending could really have benefited from was a little montage showing the lives of the people Jack saved in the Aku-less future. Maybe during the credits.

And why not have the intro be the original, then pan out in the end with Aku's "NOT!" to reveal he was narrating it to characters from screens within the show?

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>>92666599
>I think she was a good vehicle for expanding Jack's character. He needed to sacrifice something more than just his wacky cast of future friends.
Motherfucker are you really this dense? Those "wacky" future friends were a greater loss than Ashi ever was. The Scotsman alone was worth ten Ashis on his worst day, I mean the man literally risked death just to get his friend's memory back. The dogs and ravers were his first steps in changing the future for the better, and the jump good dude gave Jack an incredible skill that he occasionally still made use of albeit rarely. What did Ashi offer? An excuse not to off himself that any of the people he's helped could have given (the Scotsman in particular since his way with words is unmatched), a face to suck, and a cheap dues ex machina followed by an even cheaper plot """twist""". She should have died with her sisters at he bottom of that ravine.

>>92670034
It's not even in the theme song. Jack literally spouts that he needs to find a way back to the past to undo Aku in every 3rd episode at least.

>>92671057
I really did wanna see samurai kids.

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>>92670727
When the cartoon has the potential to be a masterpiece yes, fucker, it hurts.
Imagine if Da Vinci half-assed the mona lisa and decided to paint her a boyfriend at the last minute, not even a well structured one, just a shitty doodle, it would never be remembered as the classic painting that it is today, that's Samurai Jack. But no, it's just painting bro, get over it.

>>92671120
Doesn't mean he has to be 'right.' You can easily do a narrative justifying either end and Jack coming to terms with the consequences thereof. Up until Season 5 when nihilism and suicidal depression were literally driving him insane, Jack always sought to do the best for others to the best of his ability without hurting them to do it.

>>92658195
I never was in denial or angry since I knew it wouldn't be good. The original wasn't that good so why would the revival suddenly be 10/10?

>>92671160
>tfw no Famurai Jack

kill me

>>92671344
>no wacky hijinks of Jack and Ashi juggling their baby while fighting a deadly Aku remnant cult bent on their destruction

Only if you promise to kill me too

>>92671220
The Mona Lisa is a good painting but it's not 10/10, it's the most famous painting in the world because of the events around it being stolen. Just like jack is so hyped because it was a good show getting an ending after 10 years. the thing itself is nothing to cry over. You simply are not very good at filtering your emotions which isn't the fault of the writers.

>>92671380
>No awkward ''meet the parents'' scenes where Jack tries to explain how they met
Pass the revolver senpai

>>92671456
"Tell me, my son, how did you meet this charming young woman?"

"Well father, you see-"

"It all started when I was trying to kill him for the glory of Aku!"

>>92671456
>No spaghetti-filled proposal scene where Jack has to explain the concept of marriage
Save a bullet for me, my nig.

>>92670113

Isn't that literally what the "live in the saved future for all it's flaws" ending is?

>>92658195
>Acceptance
The ending (though more bitter than sweet) is fine by me when I understand it's meaning visually. I'll always hate the poor man's TTGL. And if that wasn't there at all then I'd have been more satisfied with the ending. Even if Ashi deserved better than to just leave the story when she was no longer needed.
I'm sorta bargaining as well however for some from of alternative.

>>92671512
What woman father?

I am alone

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>>92671380
>>92671456
>>92671533
>Ashi will never be 8 months in, painting a nursery wall blue while Jack puts together a crib, the two of them laughing when a splatter of pain lands on her baby bump
>Ashi will never have a baby shower, unwrapping a gift from the Scotsman's daughters and getting excited about the tiny little kilt they gave her
>Jack and Ashi will never both wake up exhausted to the sound of the baby crying over the monitor, Ashi rolling over and whispering "your turn" while jack sighs, gives her a kiss, and crawls out of bed

Pass the bleach my dudes

>>92671726
>Jack will never tell his child the tale of Momotaro
>Jack and Ashi will never receive their son/daughter back from a sleepover with Scotsghost and his daughters one day to find they've been "taught" to "play" the bagpipes and wish to give a concert

>>92671006
you do know that (with the exception of those who were directly connected to aku like ashi) jack's allies still exists they just live in a timeline without aku

>>92671914
>jack's allies still exists they just live in a timeline without aku

AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

>>92658195
Skipped straight to acceptance. I wasn't blown away by it, or think it was particularly good, but I found it serviceable enough.

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>when the samurai's misery is just right

>>92671959
God, let's not have this argument again.

>>92671255
>Doesn't mean he has to be 'right.'
He doesn't. But he doesn't make the choice, Ashi does.

>>92658195
Eh it was all a bit off and weird at times but what can Gendy do about it
You can't start a project,cancel it,come back to it 13 years later and expect everything to be the same including your way of thinking

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>watching e6
>can't get that stupid smile.dk song out of my head

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>>92658195
I'm at "not caring". I was never a Samurai Jack fan, so this doesn't sting me as much as it does certain people. I choose to remember Genndy by SBT

>>92674818
>Someone saved my edit

>>92676325
"Simon Sez" was the first thing I thought when I saw Ashi playing with that thing, so your edit got saved as soon as I noticed it.

>>92658234
You expected too much.

>>92658312
satisfied in the beginning here. I am satisfied of what I have seen.

>>92658195

>I enjoyed the ride and the ending.

So many of y'all are tryhard wussfucks about this. It was a monster of the week show that we got a movie divided up into 10 episodes for.

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>>92658195
post yfw you're perfectly okay with the ending.

I got so depressed about the ending that I started drinking right after and then got hammered.

Ehhh I'd feel better if the ending wasn't a rip off from a Barbie movie....

http://splendoras.tumblr.com/post/161028871574/am-i-kicked-out-of-the-fandom-yet-while-i-was

>>92658843
>>92668621
People really wanted an alternate universe where the past is saved but Jack chose to stay with all those he saved and got to know.

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>>92658195
>Don't Give a Fuck
Samurai Jack is dead, let's just leave it that way. Stop hoping for more disappointment.

>>92664811
That's denial.
>>92664859
The whole point of this season was to finish Jack's conflict with Aku. They dropped the ball on that, so everything else is pretty much pointless. Why even make a new season if you're going to fuck up the only part anyone really cares about?

>>92665043
>The fight in the future wasn't enough?
No.
>What the fuck is wrong with all of you shitheads!?
We have standards?

I've been trying to rationalize it. I never really liked Ashi, but I think she has more purpose than a deus ex machina. Jack made countless bonds and connections over his decade long travels, and he knows this is a future timeline. Ashi gives Jack a concrete connection to the future in being his love interest and shows that all he knew has been erased when she ceases to exist. She makes the consequences of his actions much more real by not only robbing him of love, but showing that all his friends will never exist either. Perhaps Jack would not have realized this if Ashi didn't disappear right in front of him. I'm probably going through mental gymnastics, but whatever. I wish Genndy would have got 13 episodes instead of 10.

>>92665837
I don't care about any of that because the execution sucked. I felt nothing, not that I was given any time to feel anything, given how rushed this shitheap of an ending was.

>>92668995
This. It fell flat on a lot of important fronts.

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>>92669945
>If I could go back to the past to stop myself from seeing it, I would
WATCHA

>>92670020
Nope, can't even enjoy that because of how poorly executed it was. Sorry, anon. You're a fool for accepting this drivel.

>>92670370
So he gave up because he knew he could never deliver and instead tried to play it off as some artsy fartsy decision he knew from the start?

What a hack. What a Jewish hack.

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who else here watching the rerun right now

>>92671064
>Acceptance, but it's the sad kind
You know how your parents are disappointed in you? That's what I feel right now.

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>>92677327
here

>>92671064
>Maybe during the credits
What the fuck, why didn't they do this? Jesus Christ, fuck Genndy.
>>92671065
>What did Ashi offer?
A vagina. Except Jack didn't even get to third base because she poofed.

>>92662785

The Gods could be busy redistributing all the souls from the future into a new timeline. Maybe she'll come back. The ladybug was no coincidence.

>>92677327
I thought that was Saturday. Anyway, I'm not in the mood. Too tired and don't really care about watching this again.

>>92677392
The Gods don't give a fuck and the ladybug was just a metaphor. Just let it go.

>>92677438
Marathon of all 10 episodes is this saturday with a 0.0001% chance of an alternative ending to episode 10

>Ashi disappears at the wedding instead of immediately like she's supposed to
>If Ashi never existed, then Jack never gets back to the past and causes a paradox
>Everybody in the past seem to be hunky dory with Jack marrying the spawn of Aku

>The most hastily written piece of shit I've ever seen

Anger, and only building stronger.

>>92677460

>Let it go

I'm not mad over the ending, I'm just pointing out that it's pretty fucking open ended.

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>>92658195
somewhere between depression and acceptance. I havent felt this way in a long while.

>Goodnight sweet Ashi

>>92677480
I might do it if I have time. Worse comes to worst I'll shitpost in chat.

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So what pissed you off the worst about the finale? For me it's how anti-climactic Aku's death was and the fact that it seems like Jack erased everyone from the future.

I mean holy fuck. The Birth of Evil, the first episode, Jack and the Zombies, and a handful of other really good Jack vs. Aku fights and for the finale, the big motherfucker, the end of the series and last time we'll see either of these characters, what kind of epic final battle are they going to treat us to?

Literally fucking nothing.

>>92677599
Just everything.

The "all characters coming together united to defeat Aku" part was amazing, but everything went by so goddamn fast. You cannot fit all of this in 1 20 minute episode. This NEEDED to be at least an hour long special, or a 2 episode special.

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>>92658195

The way the series was going if he did actually go back to the past I kind of expected Ashi being half Aku to be the plot device that got him there.

That being said, I hated that they went the obvious route....and I hated it even MORE that they did the double take at the last second and killed her. I would have been fine with this bullcrap if she had just faded away with Aku but they straight up ripped the ending of TTGL and shoved it in my face for the second time.

I was hoping for some bullshit in the last few minutes of the episode where the gods gave her back to Jack as a reward for all of his deeds but nope....

If the entire train is going to be waifu bullshit then at least stay consistent, everything about the last 2 episodes felt so hollow. It was like someone casually walking past me and just flipping me off before walking away with nothing I could do about it.

tldr; I'm too mad to feel mad

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>>92677504
I've seen that Ashi design a few times. It's neat. Perhaps how she looks when she comes back.
The black and maroon is a nice contrast to Jack's white and gold.

>>92677504
I'm miss her too much

>>92677758
>Season 6 follows Ashi in the aftermath of the battle of Aku and her trying to get back home, back to Jack

>>92677678
>or a 2 episode special
Why couldn't Genndy prioritize a bit? Take the green horseman for example. A completely extraneous subplot that only served to reinforce Jack's suicidal guilt, which Sudoku Jack did just fine. Also completely pointless as it's resolved because Jack thought he killed kids who he didn't actually kill because Ashi saved them. You could have cut the whole fucking thing out, and just had Ashi chase after Jack after their little fireplace conversation, and then she meets all the people he helped, sees his impact, and realizes how much of an evil bastard Aku is. Then you've got a whole nother episode to finish off the series with.

It's amateurish. Where the fuck was the editor?

>>92677682
>I was hoping for some bullshit in the last few minutes of the episode where the gods gave her back to Jack as a reward for all of his deeds but nope....
Honestly I'm glad they didn't because I actually started to hate Jack for wasting my time with this shit and wanted him to suffer. I shouldn't be feeling that towards a character I loved as a child.

>>92677789
When her body is reincarnated it has to choose a soul so her good side and her evil side fight it out until one wins and gains control.
Of course, her good side wins so her first words are how happy she is to see Jack.

>>92658195
I'm watching this HD remake of the old show theme https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9T2fx6Ny_Bg

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5ARO37vOmA

>>92677758
Its my favorite design ive seen of her so far. That one is good too. I really wish we could have seen her in the outfit before hand. Too bad we'll never see another SJ ep again

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>actually wanting more samurai shit after the death of the best character

>>92677942

>Gods zap down Ashi as a favor to Jack
>They stare at eachother for what feels like hours
>"Oh yeah, one more thing"
>Gods zap down Dean Martin to set the mood

>>92677970
>Doesn't even try to kill jack
>Lets his daughter do it
>lol no way this won't backfire at all lol
>best

>http://vocaroo.com/i/s0VvfjOnwYWK

>>92678005

It was stupid but it was totally in character for him. If Aku was serious about killing Jack then Jack would have been dead years ago....all he wants to do is fuck with him and get off to his suffering.

>>92678005
That was probably one of the few good parts of the episode. In fact, everything up until "i wub you" was fucking perfect. I guess that made the disappointment that much worse.

>>92677938
I know but for every fanfic I read set after everything where Ashi has returned, that's the look I'm keeping in my mind.
The Odachi is really cool too even though I believe most female Samurai would take a Naginata.

>>92677994
How nice of them.
The Gods in Samurai Jack seem to be mostly uncaring but they did bring Jack back his sword (and saved him $20 by giving him a haircut/shave) but after Aku's defeat I could see them rewarding him, and Ashi, by bringing her back and freeing her of any connection to Aku. A tiny bit of meddling to ensure Jack is happy and has a powerful ally should the world ever need a champion again.

>>92678158

>"Alright, we've finished redistributing the souls. All is as it should be."
>"Indeed. Should the Earth ever come under - wait, why does the Samurai look so sad?"
>"Oh fuck we accidentally put her into a ladybug"

>>92678201
Ladybugs don't live that long, a year at most, so they'll get her back pretty quick.

>>92678214

>Puts her soul in the body of a black woman
>"Actually my name is spelled with a 'y' now"

>>92678201
>>92678214
If the ladybug was Aku this would have been a 10/10 ending.

>>92678201
>Ashi put back in her body
>Jack sees her
>"Ashi, your...your..."
>"M-my what?"
>"Your hair."
>Onionhead has returned
>Ashi quickly tries to brush it down
>It springs right back up
>"Ugh. I need a bath to take care of this, maybe you can join me."
>Bedroom eyes
>"N-no. I will let you bathe on your own, I do not want to intrude."
>Ashi giggles "Some things never change. You're still cute when you get nervous."
>Ashi takes Jack's hand and leads him into where the tub is

>>92678240
I'LL BE BACK AGAIN SAMURAI! YOU'LL SEE!

>>92658219
>>92658234
im with this anons

After watching the rerun, at the very end if you notice how Aku blinks during the part Aku is trapped inside the sword before Jack smashes it into the ground, notice how the ladybug blinks the same way at jack

>not liking the ending of Samurai Jack
go back to plebbit
dude fulfilled his mission: undo the future that is Aku
everyone in the future knew that was his plan and they still didn't protest
Jack saved the goddamn universe
anyone who complains about Jack saving the universe is reddit/tumblr trash who cares more about their fee fees than Jack literally saving the fucking universe

>>92678325

>Implying she doesnt just take him forcibly

>The entire build up in Ashi wedding just to die was longer than the final Fight between Jack and Aku

BRAVO GENNDY

>>92678452
She doesn't want to break him. Plus she may be weak herself after first coming back.

>>92678479
Bittersweet endings were a mistake

>>92665023
Where it gets even weirder is that there was actually planned to be a reboot movie released not long after EoE that told a completely different story. But it got canned. I don't know if any of the ideas they had for it made it into rebuild eventually or not, but it had weird stuff like Angels eating people and Eva pilots being surgically implanted into their Evas' uteruses rather than using an Entry Plug.

>>92678201
>>92678214
Ladybugs live for four weeks from egg to adult.

>>92677893
>all that wobbling

>>92665023
>>92678553
That planned movie sounds weird as hell and that's saying something for Evangelion.
Also EoE really is the same points as the final two episodes of NGE but it takes things to a much more theatrical and impressive level. Instrumentality happens in both but in the series it's shown through the crude crayons drawings, the dreams, and all the character meeting up on the same plain at the end, in EoE it's shown through the world being destroyed and everyone taking the same form of fluid.
I think so many people say to skip the end of NGE and go straight to EoE that some miss how they are in essence the same messages and sequences but shown in two different ways.

>>92678496

>Doesn't want to break him

Jack fulfilled his mission, now she must fulfill hers.

If Ashi comes back free of Aku's influence do her sisters return as well?
Or do they just hand out in the afterlife and get a chance to repent there.

>>92678798

The sisters return, pissed at Jack but don't really remember why.

>>92678822
Hopefully Ashi talks them down. I wonder what they would end up doing with their lives since we never got even a hint about their personalities. Just find hobbies they enjoy and start doing them around the villages.

>mum died like a bitch and didn't make a surprise return at the finale and tried to break Ashi

lame as shit

>That awkward moment when the Emperor and Empress ask Jack and Ashi how they met

>>92678852

>Sees Jack and Ashi rubbing noses together
>"I DON'T LIKE IT"

>>92678325
>>92678452
>>92678496
>a thousand years have passed
>and I... faded away
>reality has lost its effect on me
>the gods restored my corporeal form in the past
>gotta get Jack...
>jack in the sack...
>to cum on my back...
>SAMURAI JACK

>>92670466
who is he?

>>92670857
>Tfw you've had some bad shit happen too and lost love before and made peace with the events of your life that shook you so you relate to the ending and appreciate Genndy's message.

Where were you when you realized we were all projecting?

>>92678993

>Tfw you were depressed for months before watching this and seeing Jack smile despite his situation made you feel much better than you have in a long time

>>92678909
>The other sisters are watching Jack and Ashi sitting together under a tree, cuddling and occasionally pecking each others lips
>"The two of them make me sick."
>The others nod in agreement
>One mimics sticking her finger down her throat and hurling
>Ashi notices her siblings "They're just jealous. Too bad for them there's NO way I am sharing."

>>92678937
Shaggyfag was a legendary poster that said (Ja)Ashi was going to ruin the series and that Genndy is a hack who can't write worth a shit. Triggered the fuck out of /co/ because he was right, and then got banned.

>>92679019

>Ashi sticks Jack's finger down her throat in response

>>92679067
>that moment when you realize that Shaggyfag died just like Ashi did
>gone forever but his actions shaped the board as we know it

True poetic shitpost-kino

>>92679088
That sounds most unpleasant.

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>>92679149
>shitpost-kino
10/10

>tfw Shaggyfag shitposting had more character development and more of an emotional impact than Ashi

>>92679088
>she vomits on him
>her sisters finally get fed up and leave them alone

>>92658195
I'm satisfied considering he literally undid the future that was Aku. On that note I wouldn't mind seeing a scenario in which Jack is still ageless and lives on into the future to see what it turns out to be like.

>>92659939
Yes. The Martyrdom Ending is a pretty old concept.

>>92679192
>>92679212

Even better.

>Ashi's attempts to be sexy wind up awkward

>>92678419
Pfft, I wish.

>>92679354
Anyone pretending that Jack and Ashi wouldn't be the most adorably awkward, spaghetti-spilling couple on the planet were not watching the show. That's part of why they're so great together.

>>92678451
It's a cartoon. I don't care what he does if the execution is shit.
>>92678479
Ashi was a mistake. I see that now.
>>92678798
Yeah, what about the Aku inside of them? Jack didn't kill them with the sword, so it should still be alive.

>>92679422
>so it should still be alive
At least until Jack kills Aku in the past before he could ever create the daughters.

>>92679400

>"Now let's get that robe off."
>"Actually, it's a g-
>"QUIET FOOL"

>>92658195
Acceptance.
I expected more but at least we got a fucking ending. Jack got back to the fucking past. Ultimately, that's all that matters to me.
There's no point in whining about it.

>>92679400
Agreed.

>>92679422
Ashi was not a mistake, what they ended up doing with her was. A disservice to her, to Jack, and the season as a whole since it leaves a lot more questions than it answers.
As for the Aku inside the sisters, it could be removed by the gods if they're the ones resurrecting them but I think that's a stretch.
They may have to face an internal battle and just decide for themselves what path they wish to take. Ashi changing sides and following Jack was her own choice.

Also one thing I thought of was to what extent is Aku their "father"? Did the priestess drinking Aku's matter impregnate her, or did she drink it and then get impregnated by another human and Aku's influence carried into the children? If it's the second one then the sisters do have human parents and could theoretically exist without Aku's influence. But that may be a stretch and arguing a point we simply have no info about.

>>92669903
GENNEDY WHERE ARE YOU

>>92679484
I don't know why but people rp as jack and ashi from explaining sex to the most mundane things bring a smile to my face

>>92679733

Shit's just funny my nigga

>>92658195
It left me confused. I don't know what to feel.

>>92679750
True true carnal, it's a hell of a lot better then get vanishing to nothing I suppose

>>92679800

>Ashi and Jack get back to the past
>Jack unleashes 50 years of cum
>Ashi longs for this feeling again
>Willfully passes away so that when they are reunited she can once more feel the pleasure

>>92679015
Aye laddie.

I will never understand how people got so attached to Ashi. She's not a remotely engaging character.

>>92680356
So then you also fail to understand how anyone could get attached to Jack?

>>92680392
Jack has a lot more going for him than Ashi does, especially during S5. But, no, he's not a very engaging character either. The eclectic supporting cast has always been more interesting.

>>92680356

I'm not so much attached to Ashi as I am attached to Jack. Jack brought me happiness as a kid and even though he's not real it's nice to see him get a send off.

>>92680356
m-muh qt waifu

>>92658195
>all these people getting sad over that ending
Don't play Nier Automata then, jeez. You'd probably commit suicide.

>>92680356
It's more about how jack still doesn't really get a happy ending despite "X" years of misery.

Sure, he gets what he wanted, but at the cost of something he wanted even more.

>>92658195
I liked it. It wasn't anything special, but what do you expect when the whole point of the show is "Beat Aku, go back to the past"? I would like to know what happens to all the friends he would have made in the future though. All of them just ceasing to exist is kind of a bummer. Can CELTIC MAGICK beat time itself?

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I'm still mad
I will always be mad.
On my death bed I will be mad.
When the seas heat up and the world falls into global catastrophe I will still be fucking mad.
In the afterlife, when I get to the gates of Heaven, St. Peter and his angels will ask me "Are you still mad about Episode CI?" My answer will be yes.
When the race of man is no more and the ruins of man's cities have crumbled into dust, I will still be mad.
Ancient alien civilizations will find the smoldering, volcanic corpse of planet Earth and decode the secrets of the ancient "internet" and they will find this post and so my eternal anger will be brought forth into the far-flung reaches of outer space.
When the last tiny flash of heat in the universe dies and all descends into entropy, my hatred will remain.

I'm still so fucking mad I took the time to write this stupid fucking post and I'm not the slightest bit less mad. I fucking hate you Genndy.

>>92665837
>All this stuff about Ashi
She was just a portal.
Just a hole to be used.

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Acceptance since second 1.

I have a feeling it would end similar even if gennedy had a theatrical movie but just without ashi/timeskip.

My theory he would just eventually defeat the guardian and go through his time portal and end aku there.

I also dont get why people are saying "Hurr durr he killed all his friends", jacks goal was to go back in the beginning, this leads to a better future which is for the best.

Be happy. There are always parallel worlds one with Ashi alive. Another parallel world with Aku alive.

>>92681661
Why the fuck does she always look like a monkey from the side?

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>>92681695
I dont know how does the scottsman have so many daughters that are like 20 at best despite being like 80 when he died?

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>>92658195
I used to be
>Depression
but I learned the
>Acceptance
the moment I realised that I live because death takes more effort.

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>>92680392
>actual well developed main character vs blatantly shoehorned love interest
I wonder.

>>92681732
CELTIC MAJJYCK

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>>92681695
It's a caricature of a japanese female facial structure. Why does Jack look like a square? why does Scotsman look like a walrus head on top of two abnormally proportioned spheres?

>>92681791
Name any permanent development that Jack went through in the original show, outside of the premise/pilot episode

>>92681837
>>92681791
btw development adressed in season 5 does not count

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>>92667859
I made a new one because I thought the other one was rather ugly. Enjoy my half-assedness

>>92681856
I... I didn't check the size before posting. Oh well.

>>92681791
Jack and Ashi had the same development. The only difference was we knew Jack for much longer.

>>92681907
other difference being Jack went 4 seasons without development, Ashi went through development from the second she was put on screen to the second it was all undone for a cheap gutpunch

>>92681958
That was my point. The first four season Jack remained mostly unchanged because the focus was on his journey.
The fifth season made the bold change to shift the focus more onto the characters. Considering Jack and Ashi start character development at the same point and they come off more or less even, having gone through similar struggles as well as ones unique to them.

I think a lot of the hatred Ashi gets in undeserved and misguided, because it would also apply to Jack as well.

>>92681661
>My theory he would just eventually defeat the guardian and go through his time portal and end aku there

The Guardian literally never mattered. Get over it fags.

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>>92681988
>I think a lot of the hatred Ashi gets in undeserved and misguided
It's just a really loud minority with shitposters mixed in, the ending however is actually splitting the base
http://www.strawpoll.me/13027393/r
http://www.strawpoll.me/13027207/r
Idk which you'd find more accurate

Also the ashi poll if you don't believe the cap
http://www.strawpoll.me/12982841/r

>>92678201
>"Oh fuck we accidentally put her into a ladybug"
>they all try to figure out who's to blame
>meanwhile Zeus just sits in the corner giggling like a shithead

>>92682048
>all this talk over "if aku doesn't exist anymore, Ashi can't either because her father never helped conceive her"
>lacking in a father for Ashi to pair with her human mother
>zeus is canon
>gods owe Jack a solid
OH BOY

I accept but I'm slightly depressed/angry at the shit pacing and action and making jack lose something that was done in such a shit fashion.
>>92680569
Nier at least set you up for it, plus better character writing than S5.

>>92658195
>muh meme scale created by a dumb Swiss whore
Psychiatry is not and never will be a science.

>>92682116
That makes a surprising amount of of sense.
Maybe Zeus even took the form of Aku and approached the priestess.

>>92678240
>Ashi survives the time travel
>They marry and become a happy couple
>They recreate the final scene to search for the first tree that Jack showed Ashi
>Scene plays out and the ladybug arrives
>It served as a reminder that Aku may be dead, but evil still lurks the world
>Jack stares into the horizon. You know, "the" Samurai stare
>Ashi turns and looks at him in the eye
>They're on the same vibe
>"So... What do we do now?"
>"What we were born to do"
>They set off on horse, towards the horizon, to travel the world again, rediscovering it this time, and keep their duty of ridding the world of evil.
>WACHA

>>92680569
What are you talking about? that game ends with a character deciding that the "original" ending is too sad and asks the player to help him retcon it to a happy ending

>>92682224
Wouldn't need to, if Aku doesn't exist, why would she worship him?

>>92681837
He could've had interesting development if he chose not to go back to the past, but oh well.