Why does this exist?

>>92640830
>but those make sense from a mobility standpoint.

And a cultural standpoint. Greeks didn't really wear pants.

>>92640893
>Greeks didn't really wear pants.

Erm.. *ancient Greeks.

>Also, fighting heels looks cool
I'm gonna have to disagree there. It really is better for female superheroes, at least the ones who can't fly, to be wearing flat soles.

>>92640830
Forgot to add, they gave her wedge heels in the movie, and not just straight up stilettos, but like the people who make these will ever bring that up....

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>>92640830
This is way before the movie.
But it exists because people like to both create derivative shit not judging it's fun some times. But it is what it is and a certain group of people like to make their redesigns to make "a point"
Which is why they tend to look like shit because they're made with making a point in mind and no design effort.
Tacticool is always shit because it goes in with the idea "it's gotta be realistic because in my head realism says legitimacy" ironically they make an ugly unfitting costume and their lack of knowledge usually makes it impractical as well.

>>92640830
Why does this image exist? For people like you to endlessly make bait threads about complaining about "Muh SJW's taking away my wonderwoman!"

>>92640830
because people like to draw and sometimes they draw versions of things they have seen elsewhere
>but those make sense from a mobility standpoint
practicality is moot when you have powers to make up for any clothing limitations or magic clothing (like mr FF or speedsters)
>fighting heels looks cool
it does not

>>92640830
>SJW's are mad that a female character is drawn even remotely sexy
What else is new?

>>92641390
>Why does this image exist?
you know how people write fanfiction? well people that can draw do the same with designs

Someone post the X-men ones.

>>92640830
redesign to your heart's content, but they should have made her look more unique. Just looks like a variation on the Gotham Manhunter's costume

>>92641488
This. This design looks awful. They made it into a "practical" and "modern" combat suit, like something a SWAT team would wear, but then they add little details from the old costume so that you don't forget it's Wonder Woman. Thing is, wearing an iron bra and a tiara with a kevlar suit looks way fucking stupider than high heels. Just give her a bike helmet with her logo and pat yourself even harder on the back

>>92641488
All his designs are the same too. They're just full covering drab body suits with minor accessories so you can tell who it was supposed to be.

Someone post the Zatanna one.

>>92640830
Wonder Woman if she were designed by the Marvel Studios team.

>>92640830
Ingvard, if you're gonna be condescending when you're explaining your point, then I already know you think your audience won't listen to you... so hey, I will comply with your wishes and not listen to you. I bet that makes you feel all justified.

I disagree with the agenda but this costume actually looks pretty cool, just needs some color.

>>92641583
This, imagine a room of people dressed like that. JL would make me depressed

>>92640830
>Ingvard the Terrible

Fitting nome de plume for such a drab piece of shit.

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>>92640830
If you're going to redesign the entire costume to be more practical, it's pretty silly to keep the lasso. A gun would be much more practical.

>>92640830
>Superman-level immortal demigod needs a more practical look.

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Fuck it, dumping the rest

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>>92642117

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>>92642133

>>92642133
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>>92642155
Who drew this and where on the autism spectrum are they?

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>>92642155

>>92640830
This tacticool trend needs to die already, it doesn't look good, it looks like the character raided the local motorcycles R us.

>>92640830
Why don't we just give a burqa? Isn't that what modern SJWs want?

Hell, DC already tried this with the DCYou and the cunts still didn't buy it.

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>>92642173

>>92640830
>>92642117
>>92642133
>>92642155
>>92642173
It's all the same fucking biker outfit with or without ski goggles.

>>92642117
with modern face recognition just give up on half covers and put everyone in luchador masks.
>sexist fishnets
I know im playing into xhes hand but how are fishnets sexist? also they are mostly stockings, can't recall the last time with classic fishnets

>>92641488
Yeah, I get the point they're trying to make and I largely agree with it. But these are comics and rule of cool comes first, it has to be an attractive design even if it isn't sexually attractive. It has to say something about the character, it should be distinctive, it should be fun to just look at.

And I see people complaining that the attempts at realism ruin the costume, but it doesn't have to be. Concessions for realism can look cool, tacticool gear is fun to look at and worn gear can tell lots of stuff about a character. It's a bitch to draw, sure, but if you're willing to put in the extra effort it can be great.

You just gotta be inspired first, y'know? You can't make a great costume design trying to "fix" someone else's design, you have to have a great idea of your own that doesn't hinge on the hero being sexy.

>>92641748
Like having some color alone would fix a lot about this. She's a superhero, but she looks more like a generic henchman.

>>92642117
Most of these are too visually bland, but I actually really like the Black Canary outfit. It's kind of reminiscent of the one in Arrow.

>>92642173
>A cape would likely get this Kryptonian killed in reality.
That Incredibles quote needs to die.

>>92642117
>remember kids if your parents are not wealthy than you have no chance of earning enough money for an outfit that is not homemade.
>no, not even the people you save will sponsor you

They're are people on this planet in the year 2017 that want practical realistic outfits for fictional characters in a fictional world

>>92642173
>>92642155
>>92642133
>>92642117
Why do they all have the same patterning?

Why isn't Supergirl mostly blue? Oh, he's using MoS as an example of making Superman look good.

>>92642200
Is clearly the worst. She looks like a fucking Harry Potter reject. Just add a skirt or trousers to Zatanna's regular costume if you desperately want a redesign.

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>>92642200

>>92642155
>>92642173
>No cape
It's crud.

>But the Incredibles said NO CAPES!
No one in the Incredibles is immune to nearly everything like a Kryptonian is.

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>>92642271

This Ingvard is aptly named

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>>92642298
fuckin DONE

>>92642298
I like this one.

>>92642133
>in le current year goggles are totally better than domino masks, I mean come on
kys. you can like one, the other or both but don't try to push your taste as objectivity
>forensics
well if you bring in realism out go most heroes.
>costume
Why does she look like she has ironman legs with fishnets?
>hair
going balled is also practical and does not leave evidence

>>92642260
these arent about practicality and you know it

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>>92642200
>The artist complaining about originality and how "formulaic, lazy, and boring" female heroes are
>All her redesigns take immediately recognizable characters and turn them into the same short haired blonde girl wearing a concrete grey and faded reddish brown motorcycle outfit

>>92642298
>>92642357
That's because Brigantine's, and medieval armor in general, is incredibly sexy. It's also easily the least retarded looking of these.

lordingvard.tumblr.com

Artist source

>>92642323
>Bitches about how ridiculous her costume is
>Still gives her high heels to fight vampires
You cant have one or the other

>>92642155
>body
so if she has big boobs she must have athletes body? maybe not all super women have to be size 2 but how is that a reason for this one to be changed?
>muh support
seriously has this person ever seen a comic, do they expect the artist to keep track of this design in motion?
>excuses
She wants it that way, there done. no need to make everything deep. I girl can enjoy showing off without being a whore.
>capes
"I watched a cartoon and copy it like a retard" where is her stun button, I mean why not.

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>>92642298
>Real armor
>It's a bunch of leather pads

>>92642200
>>92642261
The worst? The second they dropped the tacticool schtick the design got at least a hundred times better. This actually looks fucking cool and dangerous, there's some actual character and personality coming through with the pose and clothing. He lets her be flamboyant, she looks like she'd actually be a cool design for a tabletop RPG character, sorta Shadowrun-y.

>>92642271
Looks like Aang when he went to the Fire Nation.

>>92642260
This. What's the point in reading cape comics if you can't even suspend your disbelief about the practicality of their fucking costumes?

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>>92642173
for someone so obsessed with practicality this posting is baffling. its like she is leaning on an invisible wall while arching her back, tiwsting her arm and tip toeing. looks kind of like MOS design but with red instead of gray. she herself looks like dead eyed and fat in the face version of valkyrie
>flesh
What happen to me learning to let go and letting my daughter be her own person? I would like to see this persons starfire.
>age
when did she look like pamela?
>design
and as we all know you can't enjoy yourself while fighting evil.
>capes
not even going to come up with a new thing eh

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>>92642182
Its only alive because its cheap to use in tv shows and movies. instead of muted versions of the colorful stuff they just go full gray/black. When casey jones starts looking like an A list hero you know you fucked up

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>>92642600

>>92642581
>>92642600
This hurts in a way I didn't know was possible

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>>92642632

>>92642200
Im going to skip the boxes and just say now she just looks like nico the runaways (even she had more variation)

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>>92642445
That's the problem with all of these. If these designs were really meant to be practical, they'd all be wearing thick helmets and carrying assault rifles. Instead we get ladies wearing motorcycle leather and wielding a magical rope or a bo staff. They're not practical enough to exist in the real world and they're not interesting enough to make someone want to pick up a comic book.

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>>92640830
Beta males virtue signalling.

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>>92642683

>>92642492
I mean... that's what a lot of armor was
Besides that's clearly metal scale with a leather jerkin over it
Were you going somewhere with that?

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>>92642712

>>92642200
>costume
Why? Does not her "cheesy" look make her stand out from others?
>characters
10/10 commentary, very relevant to character design and totally true.
>tone
deaging and more edge? Does this person work for the company?

All women need to be covered up! Sharia feminism says so.

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>>92641748
>>92642227
I tried out a quick mock up in paint.NET with increased saturation and a multiply layer

>>92642662
Why does the wasp have a mustache?

>>92642743
While I find this guy annoying and self-righteous in his tone, that's not a very honest argument when you're talking about male artists creating scantily-clad women for money.

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>>92642735

>>92642323
She looks like a side character from Buffy.

>>92642200
fuckign disgusting

>>92642715
>I mean... that's what a lot of armor was
Leather armour was nowhere near as prevalent as a lot of media makes it out to be and scale mail was more ceremonial than anything, why use leather when gambeson is cheaper and just as protective?

>>92640830
>fighting heels looks cool
No.

>>92642787
I disagree, but I'm curious why you disagree with that.

Isn't it a double standard that women can make art of idealized men but men are told not to?

>>92642200
An asian with colored highlights in her hair?
RACIST

>>92642896
I'm not saying that men can't, but I am saying that "Sharia feminism" is a stupid counterargument if someone says that they don't like men doing so.

Also, it's not so much that we don't want men doing so at all so much as we want it to stop happening so very, very often. It's really oversaturated, especially in a medium like comics, and it gets old.

>>92642768
I can't help but feel all these women are going to be DYING in the summer heat. At least Batman can afford air conditioned suits.

>>92642715
The leather armor thing is a myth. The scale armor is badly drawn - it looks more like shiny fabric than a coat of heavy metal scales.

>>92642323
>Claims sexist origins
>Vampirella created by influential woman who helped pioneer second-wave feminism and designed Vampirella the way she did in protest of people shaming women who didn't dress conservatively

>>92642534
its funny because its true
>>92642271
Where is dare devil's batman outfit? its the "why does not tony put everyone in a suit" all over again.
>disguise
a lot of assassins just give up on normal life and are on the run or they pay off the locals to pretend like they are not there, king pin is not the only one who can do it. in most recent ep of supergirl jimmy was recognized by just his eyes, where is your god now? + good pro killing is about not being seen or not leaving anyone to talk to the cops. any imitable part is also often unrealistic so there won't be inspired copy cats running around (for example that is why Japaneses crime comics always have some ridiculous methodology or magic tool used for crime)
>storage
she keeps them in her ass

>>92640830
>complain about fighting crime in heels
>gives her heeled boots

>>92642117
This is the only one that's not complete shit, and like others have mentioned, it's basically the same pattern/design as the others, with a few details changed.

These actually leave kind of a bad taste in my mouth and I'm not even exaggerating.

>>92640830
Because people can draw whatever they want, and some people who can draw want that. Take it easy.

>>92642298
looks like generic medieval chick.
>hair
just cut it off. I mean why stop now.
>armor
armor is heavy, especially under all that sun she travels. just give her a magic motorcyclists outfit she found in a cave. I mean if those shitlord can get away with that weak rational im sure so could you

>>92642800
Is Wolverine a Slavic gardner?

>>92640830
>>92642117
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>>92642173
>>92642200
>>92642271
>>92642298
>>92642323

Whatever these suits gain in practicality, they lose in iconicness. Very few people want to see a group of girls dressed in nearly identical brown leather suits punching baddies.

Hell, if you put them all in the same fight scene the reader would have very little idea of who is fighting what because they all look nearly identical.

>>92642949
>Also, it's not so much that we don't want men doing so at all so much as we want it to stop happening so very, very often. It's really oversaturated, especially in a medium like comics, and it gets old.

Bikini Armor Battle Damage pls go

Men like looking at sexy women, men will draw what they like. Deal with it.
If you don't like it make your own comics.

t. Bi woman who likes cheesecake

>>92642323
denzel what have they done to you?
veronica where is archie?
>tone
oh now you tell us, so all the other characters can't but this one can. even gets to keep heels, how arbitrary

>>92642768
oh wow thanks man it looks surprisingly good now

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>>92642503
It looks like Nico.

>>92642662
>Loki
Das raciss.

And what is "Thunder Blake" holding?

>>92643090
Okay; to be honest, I'm lesbian myself and don't mind physically idealized women in an aesthetic sense. Though I think a lot do have oversized breasts still.

And I would make my own comics, but my hands are a bit fucked up and I can't even hold a pen properly.

>>92642581
its not bad, just not to my liking. feels like one of those looks you would see in an image comic, the kind that keeps you from giving the story a chance

>>92642600
>Quicksilver
That's literally Keith Giffen Star-Lord. What the fuck.

>>92642800
>Hand-crank eye beams
Hilarious

>>92640925
but Wondy CAN fly.

>>92643157
This.

It's a better design but it's also unoriginal as fuck. Looks like your typical perky, quirky goth magic chick.

>>92642800
>french-canadian Wolverine
these arent bad actualy

cept Rogue

>>92643197
those jackets existed before star-lord you know
>>92643266
>better design

>>92642949
>we want it to stop happening so very, very often.
who is this we? Then contribute, go copy the Japanese they have have more than 1 genre. industry is in the shitter for many reasons and its paying for it by losing money another major reasons is that reading comics is not part of the culture the same way reading manga is

>>92643162
a polo mallet

>>92643294
Better than the rest of this artists' redesigns, I mean.

>>92642971
There is sex negative and sex positive feminism. basically since feminism is whatever you want it to be its also nothing at all

>>92643083
this has actually been a problem few times when reading birds of prey

>>92640830
looking over the tumbler this person does not seem to practice what they preach

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>>92643175
It all depends.
My issue with Cheesecake isn't usually it's happening. It's usually it's bad.
Like I don't think I've ever said "this is totally inappropriate" when I actually enjoyed it. Whenever the idea that cheesecake is detracting from the story comes about, it's usually trash cheesecake.
Though maybe that just points out more how hard I'm thinking with my dick.
>>92643322
To be fair isn't Manga also still disposable there.
Does anyone here just chuck their old floppies? Manga is probably not only prevalent in Japan because they tell different stories but also because they just made it a cheap hobby for the casual enthusiast. Otakus can spend all the money they want on periphery stuff or premium editions but they're also affordable for someone who isn't quite so fanatic.
>>92643427
That's always funny.

>>92642117
I feel guilty for liking this one. The rest are still shit though.

>>92643175
you don't sound very lesbian. I can appreciate aesthetic beauty of alexander skarsgard but that does not make me gay.
>Though I think a lot do have oversized breasts still
a lot do, but how many and whom is very subjective.
>but my hands are a bit fucked up and I can't even hold a pen properly.
find someone who makes what you like and pay them your shackles

>>92643514
Sorry, I misspoke with "aesthetic sense."

>find someone who makes what you like and pay them your shackles
Will do, once I get enough. I actually live in the house of an artist, but her style is too animu for my tastes.

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>>92640830
>TFW this toy line would look like SJW the action figure. :P

>>92643447
>To be fair isn't Manga also still disposable there.
It is but the output is bigger + everything is not tide to few companies. The way I hear they use more paper on manga than on toilet paper.
>it a cheap hobby for the casual enthusiast
This could be/is a major thing. I mean I once added up the cost of my comic collection and felt like shit for a week.

>>92642271

Elektra had a pretty shit design to begin with, so I'm not exactly crying.

>>92643447
>detracting from the story comes
I think this could be solved by having a modern erotic/soft core line, a place where people can go to vent their artistic extremes without it being some luna bro's production or god is dead type gore fest.

>>92640830
Well for one they're dressing according to where they came from?
I'd believe the shit out of it if there was a new hero and he was just a greek hero and straight up naked.

>>92642735
I would unironically like that gambit design if it wasn't drawn as an obviously bad parody with weird proportions.

>>92643353
I just find it hilarious that she's complaining about it being intentionally provocative and sexy when the point the original artist was trying to make was that women's bodies and sexuality is nothing to be ashamed of.

>>92643575
>but her style is too animu for my tastes.
these days I don't know what I like. all the none animu art seems deformed(ironic I know) a lot of artists have faces that look like character is a bloated corpse. Even in big 2, there are very few artists that are easy on my eye
>Sorry, I misspoke with "aesthetic sense."
I know, Im just playing. I have gay friends who don't seem to get my heterosexual point of view and are easy to dismiss everything as fanservice or just too much(since they personally are not interested in it) which can be very frustrating

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>>92643653
>I think this could be solved by having a modern erotic/soft core line,
>>92643653
Ahem.....pic related

>>92643615
from the thumbnail I assumed it was mercy
>>92643769
reality is always twisted to fit whatever the speaker wants. sex positive one will endorse it and sex negative one will say it was important for its time bla bla bla but now things must be done the way they say they should be done.

>>92640830
I don't like this, she loses all the regal and Princess stuff and it looks so boring.

Also stop giving her pants, Diana doesn't want pants.

>>92643791
I said modern, I said erotic, half the stuff in heavy metal looks like impressionist paintings or art of someone who thinks there is no such thing as too much shading and darkness and let us not forget about those computer generate pages where it looks like they traced over staged 3d models or put more simply I have hard time fapping to this. It also comes out like once a month(If I recall correctly) which is not much when set next to the weekly pull

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>>92643947
pants to be darkened

Did this fucker ever sexist redesign a character with a penis?

>>92640830
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>>92642173

In a world where /k/ makes super heroes.....

>>92644001

BDSMan
The Flasher
Superfabulousman

>>92642662
The Wasp is some sort of racist look on Asians

Why does Loki look like a cheap 70s singer?

Why does Thor look like Popeye?

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>>92644082
As someone who frequent /k/ I can safely say there are not enough trannies, furries in military gear, and slavs in any of these images to meet /k/'s standards.

>>92640830
How long ago was this made? none of their current stuff looks like this

>>92644203
Does /k/ hate them? all of them can be fun people

>>92642117
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>>92642173
They're all the exact same costume in different drab colors

>>92642298
I like it but it doesn't say Barbarian in Hyborean Age.

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>>92640830
I'm so tired of this "what if we made this unique and exciting character's costume PRACTICAL AND BORING?" crap. Every one of these redesigns looks exactly the same and nothing special stands out to identify them as the character. "Better mute the colors and maybe put a subtle hint that sort of resembles something of the character in there as a clever easter eggs guys!". We like these characters because they're something outside of the boring mundane things you can see everyday. They're fantastic and wonderful, they ignite the imagination. These people are killing all fun.

This picture in particular screams "I'm a feminist and I'm scared of people LOOKING AT MY EXPOSED SKIN, stop raping me with your eyes!" No one cares.

>>92642298
>She needs to be realistic
>Duel wielding a Longsword and a Seax-like longdagger

Top kek.

>>92640830
That costume unironically sucks. There's nothing Greek about it.

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>>92644304
Does /k/ hate who?

They adore slavs for the endless supply of /k/ memes they give so willingly (like 40% of /k/'s board culture is based on a Ukranian video game)
They constantly jerk it to dudes posting pictures of their legs in stockings with a gun resting on them.
Furries is more of a grey area, some like them, some hate them.

In the end though there's only two kinds of people; those who like guns and support gun rights, and those who don't, and /k/ really doesn't like the latter for obvious reasons.

>>92642200
>Nico

>>92640830
Because people like doing redesigns, and every person has their own idea of whats good. A lot of those ideas happen to be shit. Stop being triggered and spamming shit threads.

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>>92640893
>Greeks didn't really wear pants.

Well if we are going into these semantics then the "Amazons" would be Scythians, not Greeks. And they did wear pants, in fact Greek historians commented on the strange barbarians from the northern coasts of the black sea that wore pants. This is also where they placed the warrior women that fought for Troy, and archaeological evidence shows that Scythian women did uphold warrior traditions, though the whole cutting off one breast thing is an invention of overly imaginative Greek writers.

So if you wanted a "historically accurate" Wonder Woman, she would be wearing pants, using a bow, and riding on horse back. Also the Amazons would be living on some grassy plain not an island.

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>>92643588

Ok I can do pedantic too.
>>92640830
That material has a very modern look and may not be available to her people, also the braces are the remains of those used by Hercules, how would you rework them if they're unbreakable?
>>92642117
That jacket is tiny, the shirt underneath it offers no protection in fights or crashes, needs work.
>>92642133
She's a publicity known super hero and on the government payroll, why would forensics be an issue? Disguise/mask, same question? She should do what I say with her hair because women have personalities and preferences. Ok? At least it will offer some protection against small arms fire if she gets depowered before the armour is damaged by the things she is immune to and gains more power by absorbing.
>>92642155
Please explain that thing around her waist, it looks like the offspring of a belt and a fluid dynamics equation, also we're assuming she wants breast reduction because she's canonical big breasted so if we're working with the existing character that is what she would have to do for this to fit.
>>92642173
My cousin is a well known and respected person with a distinct look and I'm going into the same business as him, I wonder what I should wear?
>>92642200
Having acknowledged that Zatanna's look would be distinctly retro in her profession let's make her goth, we need to increase female goth representation.
Do we know if the designer has read any of their books? It feels like a wiki job. Also rate my ratings.

>>92642600
>Wizardess

Witch.

The word is Witch.

You just wrote it. Put "Wanda The Witch"

FUCKING WITCH.

>>92648004
To be fair, there are settings where the words describe very different kinds of magic.

>>92648004
Witch has implications of evil. It's more synonymous with warlock if anything.