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>tfw Scotsman was never born

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YOU GOOK-FACED TATTY! I TRUSTED YOU! I THOUGHT YA WERE ME FRIEND! YOU BASTARD! YOU'VE DESTROYED ME, ME DAUGHTERS AND ME WIFE! EVERYTHING! YOU'VE BETRAYED US ALL! YOU WERE SUPPOSED TO SAVE THE FUTURE, NOT ERASE US! YOU WERE MY CLAN BROTHER! YOU WERE... my buddy... you cold-hearted, soy-faced, pajama-wearing daisy cocksucker...

Fuck you and yer stupid parents.
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>>92637807
How exactly Aku not existing means that Scotsman was never born? Seriously he isn't his spawn and he wasn't birthed and raised for the purpose of killing Aku
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>>92637807

Yes he was born, if you pay attention the land in where he lived never seemed to be affected by Aku at all, it was beautiful.


People don't know that even Aku had his limits, that he never traveled every single inch of the planet, etc
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>>92637874
Why are you guys so dense?
The events that lead to the Scotsman's ancestors even meeting are unlikely to happen in a drastically changed future.
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>>92637874
>[mournful bagpipe music plays in the distance]
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>>92637807
Honestly this doesn't upset me nearly as much as them just not addressing it
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c-could it be?
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>>92637977
>aye Jack! Go and save the future! We are counting on y- *gets erased*

Bravo Leon s gennedy you done it again
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>>92637807
Shit. I can see him saying something like that.
Man, that would utterly fuck Jack's mind.
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>>92638009
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>>92637932
Yet it all happens anyway, because time travel is literally magic, and cartoons don't care what Anonymous thinks is impossible.
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>"IDIOTS JUST BECAUSE AKU WAS DESTROYED IN THE PAST AND ASHI VANISHED BECAUSE OF IT DOESN'T MEAN EVERYONE VANISH TOO WHO WERE ALSO AFFECTED BY AKU"

>"WHO CARES ANYWAY, THEY KNEW THEIR CULTURE, FAMILY AND CHILDREN WOULD CEASE TO EXIST WHENT HEY WENT TO HELP JACK!"

>"GENNDY IS 100% KINO"
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EVERYBODY THAT CAME TO RESCUE JACK SAW THE BROADCAST AKU MADE

AKU EXPLAINED THE NATURE OF JACK'S MISSION IN THAT BROADCAST

THEY ALL CAME ANYWAY
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>>92637807
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>>92638144
IT WAS FUCKING FANSERVICE, IF THEY KNEW THEYD BE ERASED SCOTSMAN WOULDNT BE PROTECTIVE OF HIS DAUGHTERS AND ATTEMPT TO GET ONE TO MARRY JACK YOU FUCKING AUTIST
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>>92638144
to SAVE him, not to be wiped from existence. Do you even know what "fan service" is?
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>>92638114
Yet Ashi still disappeared. If not for that, I would've not minded, since that meant the future still existed as an alternate timeline. Honestly, all of this could've been so easily fixed if Jack had destroyed Aku in both the past and the future.
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>>92638144
It's not like they were gonna let the Jack die. Plus using the old shows intro in the broadcast was more of a gag/nod to the older series. You know? you and your friends sitting down at the tv watching samurai jack?
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>>92637932
I am also wondering why some people here seem to be unable to think about a cause effect chain over a thousand+ years.
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>>92638225
>you and your friends sitting down at the tv watching samurai jack?

>tfw watched it alone on my old 1980s tv cuz no friends and too poor to afford fancy one
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>>92638246
I recall in the first episodes the dogs mentioning that Aku has ruled for thousands of years.
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>>92638267
Oh sry bro
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>>92637932
The Scots will still live in their little clan home in their valley without Aku. At most the Scotsman's dad will fuck a slightly different sheep.
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>>92638348
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>>92638348
>At most the Scotsman's dad will fuck a slightly different sheep.
What the hell you say about me mum?
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>>92638246
Because co is full of underaged brainlets
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>Ashi you have Aku's powers!
>*gasp* I do!
>*spits time portal*
I kekd
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>>92638323
saright
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>>92638348
Yeah...no. Given the fact that Aku is now gone and the world is a much safer place not being ruled by an immortal evil tyrant the scots clan wouldn't have a need to be living inside a fortress castle. They wouldn't be the same huge, muscular, sword wielding, battle hardened red heads we know them as because that's what Aku's future made them to be. They'd be regular people working jobs as teachers, firemen, accountants etc.

The scotsman could potentially still exist but he wouldn't be the same person we know him to be. He wouldn't need to be carrying around a sword and have a machine gun leg. He'd probably either be a farmer or working a deskjob
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>>92638192
Because Ashi was literally created by Aku, Aku played no part of the birth of the scotsman.
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>>92638549
But Scottsman was born in AKu's Future.
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>>92638424
All Scotsmen are dumb degenerate skirt-sporting sheep-shaggers, and so was your dad. Your mum was probably a black sheep as well, seeing as how most Scots are commies as well
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>>92638530
>They'd be regular people working jobs as teachers, firemen, accountants etc.
>Scotsman working a deskjob
The curse of normalfaggotry. What a dreadful and uninspired fate. Although as a farmer he might still have some of his old traits, but it wouldn't be the same...
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>>92638009
Scots are not vikings
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>>92638577
True, but Scotland and the Scots in Aku's future seem to be far better than our IRL commie Scots.
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>>92638567
What makes you think he wouldn't have born without Aku?
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>>92638602
Maybe some ugly ass drunk viking shagged his great-great-great x 20 scottish granny.
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>>92638549
I feel like you idiots have zero imagination. The probability of you yourself being born even in the event of your parents conceiving is infinitesimally tiny. The chances of that specific sperm breaching that egg is small. Easily someone who would have been your biological brother or sister would have been born and you would have never existed. Imagine how different the lives of others you encountered would be. Imagine millions of other people never being born and very different people being born. Imagine how this would be a chain reaction of different encounters marriages and people walking around. Imagine if bumping into Hitler's father annoyed him and he had sex with his wife 3 seconds later than would have happened in the original timeline and instead they concekved a baby girl. What are the chances any of the seven billion people alive would be the same exact people if that happened.
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>>92638622
>They exist in the future that is Aku
>Undo the future
>"Well they could still exist!"

Bravo.
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>Chrono Trigger
>bittersweet realization that Robo will cease to exist if you defeat Lavos is 10/10 and he helps you anyway
Why can /v/ recognize Kino but /co/ can't when their shows take a page from them?
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>>92638440
>nobody hurts me daughters!
>that's why I'm letting you destroy us all, go forth Jack lad!
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>>92638905
I never played chrono trigger but I imagine that robo at least considers his own existence at least once in it if he's going to disappear.

Nobody does that in Samurai Hack.
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>>92638905
They went to save jack from getting killed, I thought that was obvious. Has nothing to do with accepting they will cease to exist.
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>>92637807
I would've also liked it if Jack stayed in the future, but I take solace in the fact that The Scotsman + everybody else Jack met knew that going back in time would erase them, but they went to break him out of Aku's shackles anyway because they wanted to repay him and wanted to free the future from Aku.
Aku had explained that Jack wanted to "Undo the future that is Aku" live across the entire earth.
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What if they make a new season of Samurai Jack and address this? I mean having the timeline split and have Jack go back to the future to save them and Ashi could work. SJ was a huge success after all so maybe they will milk it.
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>>92638905
Robo didn't cease to exist though, he is seen with his robo-waifu on a mountain in oen of the endings.

Although he does get axed along with the rest of the Chrono Trigger cast in Chrono Cross, but nobody counts that pile of shit as canon so...
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>>92639133
> but nobody counts that pile of shit as canon so...

Season 5 is the Chrono Cross of Samurai Jack
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>>92639105
Did we ever see ashi in that leaked samurai outfit? If not could that mean there could be more SJ?
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>>92638978
>I never played chrono trigger
Do yourself a favor and play it.

> robo at least considers his own existence at least once in it if he's going to disappear.
Yes, and more character development with him as well. It's kind of a pivotal plot point that he's fighting to protect a future that he may never become a part of.
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>>92639183
No. That's the end of it all. Those leaks were just unused concept art
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>>92638447
We can all watch the marathon on Saturday together anon
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>>92639053
>I would've also liked it if Jack stayed in the future
He could've stayed. Become its new ruler. Help to rebuild it. Become Warrior King Jack.
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>aku dominates the planet, tortures and kills millions
>jack saves handfuls of people regularly for 50 years

which of those is more valuable

stopping hundreds of years and countless destroyed lives and saving the original timeline, or deciding the new timeline and those handfuls of lives are more important
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>>92639105
We can only hope. I just hope tumblr doesn't get involved if there is a next time.
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>>92639245
King Jack become a thing in the comic book ending. Haven't seen it myself but I hear its better than the cartoon
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>>92639133
>>92639164
>shit talking chrono cross
Game's great but the story is hit or miss.
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>>92639133
My nigga.

>>92639164
Keep telling yourself that.
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>Ashi opens the portal
>Jack hesitates
>Ghost Scotsman flies down
>"JACKIE, WHAT ARE YE DOIN? GET GOIN!"
>"But... I am leaving all of you behind-"
>"LISTEN, EVERYONE KNEW WHAT THEY WERE DOIN WHEN THEY CAME HERE TO HELP YE, DEFEATING AKU IS BIGGER THAN ANY ONE O' US"
>cutaway to Aku smashing a bunch of good guys
>"YOU HAVE TO GO BACK, AND STOP ANY OF THIS FROM EVER HAPPENIN!"
>"You are right. I will never forget you."
>"YOU BETTER NOT YE P-PYJAMA BIG GIRL'S BLOUSE *sniff*
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>>92637932
Two of the main deities of Jack's world are heavily linked with forms of reincarnation. Possibly all three but reincarnation in Norse myth seems like a stretch and obviously the mythology of Jack subscribes to Valhalla complete with Valkyries.
It doesn't really matter that they don't exist, they already exist in some form. They simply won't become that specific iteration of themselves but regardless they will always be.
>>92639257
I don't know those assholes. But I like Scotsman and his thick daughters.
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>>92639224
T-Thanks anon
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>>92639220
>It's kind of a pivotal plot point that he's fighting to protect a future that he may never become a part of.

This is cool and should've been on the minds of the samurai jack cast, but gendy is a hack so everything just feels weightless and meaningless

>>92639105
This is it dude. This was meant to wrap up everything, and gendy admitted he was physically unready for it, and has proven that he was intellectually and mentally unprepared as well. There's nothing more to be said.
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>>92639287
If there had been a moment like this, I wouldn't mind. Damn you Adult Swim for not giving Genndy 13 episodes, you damn corporate bastards.
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>>92639333
Hell fuck 3 more episodes that could've been 10 seconds we weren't watching Jack's pointless wedding or him walking.
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>>92639267
>hit or miss
Entirely miss.

The gameplay itself was pretty stupid. Most encounters could be skipped. Stat distribution was completely random. Things like field effect and the RNG heavy combat weren't fun. There was zero attachment to be had for any of the characters besides a few due to the sheer unnecessary number of them.

The only good thing was the music.
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>>92639395
>Entirely miss.
Strong disagree.

>The gameplay itself was pretty stupid. Most encounters could be skipped. Stat distribution was completely random. Things like field effect and the RNG heavy combat weren't fun. There was zero attachment to be had for any of the characters besides a few due to the sheer unnecessary number of them.

Also strong disagree.
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>>92639333
Sorry Anon, but we needed half a minute of the Scotsman rambling off names way more than something like that :^)
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>>92638530
>>92638578
This actually makes Aku future look pretty great.

I bet in Jack future, there's no more need for adventure or wonder. Aku's had drastically different cultures and ways of living spanning from cyberpunk future society's to primitive but well im touch aggrarian worlds.

Do warriors still exist 1000 years from Jack's time? What if Jews just took over and people are just living in blissful complacency? I don't want Jack's world turning into the shitty watered down present.

#BringBackAku
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>>92638602
Not according to HTTYD
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>>92639267
>tfw lived long enough to see people actually defend Chrono Cross
How horrifying.
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>>92639488
Considering the massive alien cultures that exist in Aku's future? Pretty sure it becomes Star Trek.
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>>92639447
>I'm going to name all my daughters even though we are going to be erased

What did he mean by this?
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>>92639295
We both watched the show alone might as well watch the end like a family, you know?
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>>92639498
>not according to HTTYD
Disgusting.
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>implying anyone still exists to be mad
Machiavelli, yo. The end doesn't justify the means. Unless you kill everyone who could get upset about the means.
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>>92639509
This.
What the actual fuck is happening
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>>92638602
>>92639498
Its almost like fictional universes are different from non-fictional universes.
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>>92639524
No, it becomes pre-Disney EU Star Wars. The fairy aliens confirmed that. A much better fate than Star Trekking, which is probably where Jack's shitty future is heading towards.
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>>92639509
>>92639572
I apologize for nothing.
Enjoyed CC. Not sorry.
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>>92639534
Thanks anon. Haven't had a genuine feel moment like this since /r9k/ went to deeper shit and got conquered by /soc/.
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>>92639488
>Jews take over
Jews would never take over. For Jews fear the samurai.
And there's no telling what JAck's future would become. And for the record the show is set 100 to 800 years beyond our present day. If flinging Jack 1000 years in the future is to be taken literally.
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>>92638009
Those are Vikings, not Scots.
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>>92639596
I'm gonna rape you.
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>>92639534
>>92639626
I'm not going to ever watch this shitty cocktease of a show again, thank you very much.
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>>92639662
And I would still never apologize.
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>All you fags taking a fucking cartoon THIS seriously
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>>92637807
Jack believes in ancestral spirits, knows that ghosts exist for a fact. Why wouldn't he believe in descendant spirits who are just born in the new future at different times or in different bodies?
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>>92639683
Good, because no one invited you, dork.
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>>92639626
Least I can do is appreciate samurai Jack with another friend and not watch it alone before I have to go to work 30 minutes later
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>>92639698
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>>92637807
>goes through all of his daughters' names
>Jack deletes them from existence and marries the spawn of Aku's finger jizz
bravo Genndy
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>>92639638
Jack's future would just become our present time. In the past the world is the exact same as ours both geographically and culturally speaking. The events that follow samurai jack would follow our world's events identically. No one in the future would think Aku or Jack's story is real they'd think its more japanese folk lore
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>>92639558
>>92639582
I would have been fine if they all were Scottish, but then suddenly the younger generation sounds American...
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>>92639683
Sorry to read that bro, well if you ever want to watch the show with a couple friends instead of watching it alone then your welcome to join us
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>>92639698
>says this on the board about cartoons and serious and humorous cartoon discussion
Why are you even here? Why do normalfags have to ruin every thread?
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>>92639287
Heres a little something that me and a drawanon made up on another thread
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>>92639721
You're a good man anon. Let's enjoy our last hoorah with gusto.
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>>92639768
nice fan fiction, I'll put it on with the others.
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>>92639732
Realistically Scot's daughters weren't Jack's type at all.

I can't see him handling a strong empowered Scott woman well. He needed a complacent qt like Ashi.
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>>92639732
>mfw that wasn't his finger
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>>92639797
Thanks...? I guess?
It's hard to tell sarcasm from reading
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>>92639768
Aku: And you're really fine with all 40 of your daughters ceasing to exist?!
Isla: D-dad is what he saying true?!
Scotman's: Well I mean of course yo-
All the scot's daughters start crying about how their going to stop existing never going to have kids or go on adventures. Their lives cut short in their prime
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>>92639768
Not bad.
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Why didn't Aku just jump into the portal after them?
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>>92639942
just one of many plot holes with tie travel anon
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>>92639942
He did, he's ashi remember?
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>>92637874
Do you people seriously not understand anything about time travel? If the timeline is linear then everything that happened after Jack was sent to the future was completely erased after he came back. Even if the same people were born in the new timeline, which is unlikely, they would be completely different people with completely different lives. He literally erased millions from existence and replaced some of them with timeline clones.
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Was the Future That is Aku a truly multicultural paradise?
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>>92639739
Culturally speaking, the Emperor of Japan was broing it up with African Bushmen, Saudi Kings, and Robin Hood. Also Magic both exists and is regularly utilized by the people of the world. Our worlds are not the same.
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>>92637807
What makes you think he'll never be born? Anything could happen in the future
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>>92637932
Unlikely, not impossible
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>>92639961
If Ashi could do it, and she's Aku, then why couldn't Aku, who's Aku, do it as well?

Rhetorical question. The answer is that they only had 22 minutes and decided not to give us a satisfying conclusion.
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>>92638938
As if Scotsman knew what was about to go down.

Who didn't go completely "wait, what in the..?" when Ashi just blurts out "OH I CAN" and instantly teleports back in time? Everything past the attack on Aku was really, really, rushed. Fuckers even pulled a Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann on us with Ashi. I liked the bit of sadness it gave but since it all happened in the span of ~2 minutes it hardly did a meaningful impact.
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>>92639968
More like a multicultural hellhole.
Bad shit happens on a daily basis no matter where you go or who you are in the future that is aku. You could get turned into a fucking chicken if you just happenel to bump into the wrong guy
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>>92640008
>Fuckers even pulled a Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann on us with Ashi
Which didn't even make sense. Does that mean Ashi disappeared at the same time as Aku in the future, or does it mean that repairing paradoxes takes the universe some time so she could fucking plan a wedding and they could rebuild their kingdom after Aku destroyed it?
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>>92639970
The silk road exists. If people can trade tools, food, horses, and spices, why can't training be a tradable commodity?
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>>92639970
Lets be real, Jack's father knowing those people was for the sake of the story and showing how Jack's trained with multiple cultures his entire life to fight Aku. The point is that those same cultures exist in our world and something like magic isn't going to have much of an impact on historical events
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Scotsman led his daughters into battle to rescue Jack knowing that without him Aku would mop the fucking floor with them.

He went into that battle knowing Jack was their only chance, if Jack failed they were all dead anyway
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>>92640031
I honestly didn't expect much logic in the time traveling so it didn't bother me. It just came and went so bloody fast.
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>>92639881
Scotsman didn't raise no pansies, fuck off with that shit.
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>>92640088
Well he didn't raise anybody now. Thanks Jack.
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Not even the scene of literally destroying Aku was satisfying, rushed or not.

Quite miffed about the whole thing really.
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>>92640071
Well no, that's actually a problem. Because if it took that long for Aku to vanish in the future, that means he was there, alone, with no Jack, and no sword, and knowledge of his imminent demise, and nothing to take his unfathomable rage out on except all of Jack's friends and allies and the entire solar system.
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>>92640119
Says who?
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>>92640064
Only critisicm I have with the original is Genndy making Aku too stronk. I get that he's a powerful force of nature and all but making invincible to everything in the world but Jack's sword was overkill.
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>>92640058
You serious? Do you seriously believe that?
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>>92640064
And if Jack succeeded they'd cease to exist. At least death implies the possibility of an afterlife.
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>>92640088
I was more dissapointed in the fact that his daughters got so little screen time and barely did anything. When I first saw Flora I thought she was going to be a supporting character and possibly have a bit of face to face conversation with Jack but NOPE
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>>92640120
This. Holy fuck. Jack doesn't fight Aku, he just slashes his already weakened past self a few times and then stabs the sword into a rock with him inside, which someone causes the whole tower to explode.

Really the whole thing was a rushed, halfassed shitshow.
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>>92640016
Notice that the more multicultural areas were the real shit holes, yet the areas dominated by a single species or cultural group where relatively peaceful until foreign invaders arrived. Woolies got blue monkey aliens. Spartans got robot minotaurs. Blue Monkeys had Red Gorillas. And those that weren't victims too such but were peaceful only had an issue with robots due to a rebel presence or Aku testing out a scheme or just trolling them, like hypnotizing the kids of that peaceful village or sinking the Triceraquins.

Also notice that the robot city of Metropolis was pretty damn great before they built that ultimate robot, and 50 years later they're better than ever.
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>>92637874
*sigh*
Let me break it down for you.

The future in that timeline, came to be entirely because of Aku's influence.

Since Jack went back in time and killed him, that removed every single event that led up the that point. Which means there would be no aliens, robot bounty hunters, or cyber punk scottish warriors.
It's basic time travel logic.
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>>92640152
>Implies

CELTIC MAGIC, LADDIE
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>>92640008
>Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann
That shit sucked tho, just like the loose ends in s5 of SJ, ya weeb cunt.
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>>92640133
Honestly I would have went further. Like make it so that instead of sitting there like a retard, Aku goes back into the past and merges with his past self, becoming so stupidly strong that the sword can no longer permanently injure him. So Jack needs the help of Ashi and a final act of the gods to make his sword strong enough to kill the new super Aku. Or some shit. I dunno.

The point is the destruction of the main villain carried with it no tension or suspense. There isn't even a cathartic release from Jack, who just screams a little and finishes him off in 15 or so seconds.
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>>92640088
>"No, no its ok because now people in a totally different timeline you'll never know get to be happy"
>"But dad, we were happy here. Aku was about to die. We could have built a better future here"
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>>92640150
Yes because magic wasn't being widely used. You didn't see everyone running around using magic to help them with their daily lives, it was used mostly in the future and only a few people used anything magical in the past. With aku gone, magic is just gonna be forgotten and jack's story will become folk lore/ a myth
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>>92640071
Blame Adult Swim's faggotry.

>>92640064
I wish the bagpipe one had more screentime.
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>>92640036
They were obviously much more than simple educators of his children.
>>92640058
Let's be real, the whole show was for the sake of the story. The point is there's no real reason that Jack with his direct experiences with concepts that are literally alien to the people of his time and his vast connections to the global world couldn't affect the course of history.
Not to mention Jack's time could be from anywhere from the twelfth century to the 19th so just disregarding something that could be practically modern history as myth would be asinine.
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>>92640165
Ashi should have been replaced with Flora.

>>92640186
No longer exists, thanks to Jack.
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>>92640128
Who cares, they were literally wiped from existence.

They delayed the time for Ashi to vanish purely to mess with Jack at the worst possible time anyway, it's just symbolic emotional stuff. Trying to link it to the future people is pointless.

>>92640187
I just mentioned these two series shared a similar event.
>That shit sucked tho
Ok?
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>>92640234
Celtic magic existed before Jack was even born, retard.
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>>92640186
>No shot of Scotsman showing up as a ghost with his daughters
Was anyone else kind of hoping when they saw there was a good five minutes left between the credits beginning and the next show that we'd get a stinger with a Scotsman joke?
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>>92640133
Actually, the elementals also had a negative effect on Aku, and he also feared some ancient relics. I feel as though it would've been better if Aku could be harmed and even defeated temporarily by other means but never truly destroyed, unless its by the sword. Would've made the battle between him and the army more interesting and less one sided. Heck, even the first time he fought the Triceraquins was more interesting and not so one-sided.
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>futurefags still THIS mad

delicious
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>>92640252
>they were literally wiped from existence
After being horribly tortured and murdered by Aku for days, weeks, or possibly months. Seems like a pretty shitty ending for all his friends and allies. Assuming that's what happened.

>Trying to link it to future people is pointless
The whole thing was pointless, literally. The problem is that these questions can now be asked because Genndy decided to rip off GL instead of just having Ashi die after Aku.
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>>92640219
What part of
>Scotsman didn't raise no pansies, fuck off with that shit
Did you not understand?
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>>92640207
No I agree, in comparison to Jack he was weak af.

Currently its
>Jack>>>>>>>>Aku>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>everything

It should have been:
Jack≥Aku>>>>Everything else
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>>92639509
Chrono Cross was always great, kiddo.

It wasn't a Chrono Trigger sequel by any means, but it was a great game.
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>>92637807
>Oh boohoo hoo a fat angry Scot in a future that should never have existed until Aku fucked with time doesn't exist, in exchange for billions of lives that were never allowed to exist because ok Aku
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>>92640293
The samurai jack universe is not internally consistent. The future could be erased the same second Aku dies in the past and still have Ashi around for x amount of time before vanishing.

Trying to convey an emotional scene was obviously more important than making time shenanigans act "correctly".
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>>92640284
FUK U M8
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>>92640398
Did Aku really murder half the planet though? It seemed more dominated and enslaved than painted red with gore paste.

Even Jack's parents were alive in the future.
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>>92640398
So the letting billions of lives that never existed live by making the billions that did exist nonexistent is okay?
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>>92640400
>Trying to convey an emotional scene was obviously more important than making time shenanigans act "correctly".

This right here should shut down down all the complaints about the delay. There's a fuck ton of complaints you can make about the rushed mess of a finale but this isn't one of them.
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>>92640447
>Even Jack's parents were alive in the future.
I think you mean the past's timeskip. His parents are only seen as deceased spirits in seasons 1 - 4. But yeah, Aku was more concerned with having people respect him and obey him when needed rather than go on a rampage for no reason.
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>>92638602
>scots
Literally viking rape babies.
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>>92640487
Oh yeah, you're right. It was after his training was complete and all that jazz he found his..mom at least.

In any case, they weren't slaughtered despite being what caused Aku most grief and were closest to him after sending jack away.
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>>92640526
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=97eHfEeK1YE
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>>92639942
To which year, month, day, second? Ashi knew the exact destination, he did not.
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>>92640132
Time travel logic, butterfly effect, ashi disappearing, etc.

Deal with it.
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>>92640447
Aku only destroys you if you resist his rule or displease him. Honestly Aku rules the world as if he were protection racketeering. Notice throughout the series all the bad shit that happens to people happen to those who live OUTSIDE of aku's cities
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>>92640584
Ashi shouldn't have known the exact time or place because Jack never told her he just described his life before Aku. Aku however should've instantly known he was going back to kill him right after he threw jack in time because that was when he was weakest.
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>>92640284
Well pastfags got what they wanted, a sloppy, greasy trough of contrived shit. Enjoy!
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>>92640653
Always wondered what Aku would had done without Jack. Is the endgame to just rule a planet effortlessly forever while bullying people every now and then?

I'm pretty sure the gods would have a fit if he started spreading to other planets though.
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>>92640398
Those lives all got to go to the afterlife though.

You literally have no moral high ground or argument.
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>>92640653
Indeed. And even those who live outside his cities rarely actually do suffer unless they're compliant. I mean, look at those raver kids, they were probably part of the same gen that were rebellious towards Aku, like in Aku's Fairy Tales, and so he hypnotized them to teach them a lesson. And the Triceraquins and other fallen civilizations that were victims seem to completely ignore him or rebel against him, which warrants an attack. And look at that cowboy town. Its pretty damn untouched as well as the Scotsman's highlands. Aku seems more concerned with just messing with other planets since he's already trolled the earth as much as he could. Also, there seems to be more untouched nature under his rule.
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>>92640031
>repairing paradoxes takes to universe some time
Probably. Aku and the people in the future died/disappeared almost instantly, since the timeline collapsed around them.
Ashi was in a stable timeline, but was slowly being rejected by it since her existence is impossible.
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>>92640695
Aku could have used his power about a hundred times, yet he did not. Headcanon? He cannot use it often, or maybe even once.
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>>92640726
What about all the people that never got to be born to go into the afterlife because their parents were killed or worked to death? You have literally no moral ground to stand on.
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>>92640704
Aku's goal was pretty... ''generic' I might say. He's an evil tyrant that wants to rule the world that's it.
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>>92640794
>unless they're not compliant.
FTFM

>>92640704
Indeed. Aku seems to not be as destructive to earth now that he's basically in control, but if he starts fucking with the galaxy as a whole, a shitstorm will form, not just from the gods, but possible rivals with similar origins to Aku or super galactic federations or something.

>>92640726
This pretty much. They could've at least explained that multiple timelines can exist simultaneously and have Jack beat Aku in the future to avoid the future's continued suffering.
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>>92640870
>This pretty much. They could've at least explained that multiple timelines can exist simultaneously and have Jack beat Aku in the future to avoid the future's continued suffering.
They can't though.
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>>92637932
Scotman and his his wife were both Scottish. It's way more likely than most other groups that they could exist and meet in a world not dominated for millenniums by Aku.
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>>92640471
Yes, because
A) They should never have existed and only exist because Aku fucked with time
And
B) There is no argument that more people would be alive in the long run, and many of those people would live better lives
But I guess they don't matter cause you didn't get to see them call jack names
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>>92640834
Not necessarily. His goal is rather interesting in that he enjoys criminal behavior and general chaos, and loves to see others cause trouble while he is treated like a king. Yet he's very casual when in private. Its a unique mix.
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>>92640794
Even Aku himself would've put laws in place since he couldn't rule a civilisation without laws. Life inside a city might have varied depending on what your job was and who you were but hell even Aku's cities had police who go chasing gangmembers. My guess is that one of aku's laws is that you can be evil and shit all you want but don't do it in my domain
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>Guize guize its good the Holocaust happened because a couple of survivors met up and made a family I like afterwards!
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>>92640879
Well they didn't need to literally explain it. Just show it by showing the future for a bit after Aku is destroyed in the past.
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You all live in the timeline that Aku didn't rule over
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>>92640920
Also, notice that Aku seemingly allows Tengu to practice his japanese culture with his family. And also notice in the haunted house episode that the family there mentions that Edo still exists and Japan is still pretty traditional, showing that Aku does allow shit to remain "good" so long as they probably pay tribute to him, offer him something in exchange or just avoid attracting his attention or the attention of his immigration department.
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>>92640953
Exactly. Look at all the interesting characters forgotten like tears in the rain and what we're left with is THIS pathetic lot.
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>>92637874
Why are you people so stupid with this?
Say the only reason your parents meet is becuase Aku burn your mothers house down and your father from another village that Aku destroyed saved her and they had a night of passion that made you.
Now Aku no longer exists and that house never catches fire, that villiage is never destroyed so your mom never meets your dad and as such you do not exist.
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>>92640927
>the Holocaust happened
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>>92638181
Season 5? That show had like two episodes, where the fuck are you getting 5 seasons from?
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>>92640219
>Aku was about to die

AHAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Ahem.
Future Aku was too much for Jack to handle, he had to go back.
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That ending was junk. What's it with people and wanting things to consistently go back to the way they were? I had a bad feeling about this series right around the time Jack abruptly reverted to his former self as though 50 years of fighting and suffering hadn't happened to him, and it was justified by its conclusion.
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>>92640953
Yeah, the [CURRENT YEAR] sure is great!

Killing Aku was a mistake. Also, Jack's world is clearly not the exact same as our earth. It has its own history and numerous civilizations from different periods in our world co-existing at the same time.
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>>92640988
Instead, my fathers village (and all the children they would have produced without Aku) is still around.
I mean, it would suck to be me If I still were, but the one where the village wasn't destroyed is clearly the superior timeline.
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>>92641009
The fuck are you talking about?
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>>92640973
I'd say living in one of Aku's cities would be like living in a future dystopia city where there's lots of crime and corruption but if you keep to yourself youd be fine
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>>92641010
Oh please. Jack would've owned that shit if Ashi hadn't opened the portal. Aku was way more frightening and powerful in the graveyard episode.
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>Nox dindu
>Jack is bad
Nice double standards, fags.
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>>92640819
They don't exist though. It's literally not the same thing, unless aku threw Jack into a dimension where those people existed.
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>>92641029
>Waahh I hate liberals getting freedom of speech!

Fucking first world bitching...
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>>92639881
They were raised as warriors and warriors know sacrifices must be made for the greater good
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>>92641023
>Dumbass thought Jack, who's primary goal was to get back to the past, wasn't gonna get back to the past

You played yourself, and thus have only yourself to blame
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>>92641060
So basically no different than my wetback upbringing except with cool tech and sorcery?

The only thing Aku seems to take very seriously though is having aliens come to his planet without making contact first and for people to leave without his consent. The fairy aliens episode really showed that said shit is what he enforces the most tyranny on.
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>>92640889
>your existence means less because you exist in a world where Jack lost

You are fucking retarded.
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>Jack was actually thrown about 5 years into the future.
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>>92640927
>guys I'm out of arguments so I'm going to make a holocaust analogy that makes literally no sense

Remember, not all brainlets are pastfags, but all pastfags are brainlets.
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>>92641068
Jack isn't bad. No one's at fault here. Ashi was the primary catalyst, but even she didn't know the full implications of what she was doing or what would occur. Its just the tragedy that followed because of the events that had to unfold and the way the episode's delivered said scenes.
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>>92640133
Hell, i find it worse to believe that in the thousands of years jack was being flung, NO ONE was noble enough to end up getting a new weapon by the gods. It was always jack, although there wasnt much "you are the chosen one" going on at all.
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>>92641104
The ending wasn't terribly surprising in the slightest. That bad feeling was pretty much me figuring they weren't going to do anything interesting with it, which is a pretty standard expectation. People hate change, people hate loss, people hate suffering, an ending that involved Jack staying in that timeline would have required accepting all three of those. We desperately want to believe that at any point in our life, we can go back to the way things used to be, and our fiction reflects it. I just find it sad that we refuse to come to terms with change and instead construct fantasies to escape this omnipresent reality.
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>>92640889
I wasn't the first comment so stop trying to supplement your argument with shitty strawmen. Your logic makes absolutely zero sense, your saying that just because the people in the bad timeline existed because Aku messed with time they have less of a right to exist than the one in the original one, which is a completely arbitrary reason. Don't know why you think there's no argument about the amount but I don't really care about that so whatever.
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>>92641104
>DURRR THE THEME SONG SAID THAT WAS HIS GOAL SO HE CANT CHANGE IT OR GROW AS A CHARACTER NOPE I CANT HEAR YOU LALALALALA
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>>92641089
>Fucking first world bitching...
>first world
>implying
>PC=/=freedom of speech
I'm Huehuezilian, you silly faggot. But keep being upset as shit breaks down in your precious golden state.
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>>92641119
>More people get to live good, non Aku related lives because you don't exist
Yeah, I'd say that's the preferred option
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>>92641091
Warriors are cool with sacrifices because that's usually an entrance to the afterlife.

These characters don't get that.
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>>92641089
>muh freedoms
>believes the Jack's future>Aku's future maymay
Never change /co/mblr.
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>>92641222
People could live that way in the future. Jack had a chance for people to live that way in the past and he fucked it up by underestimating aku.
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>>92641153
This. Why has /co/ become so shit and brainless (slightly more so than before)?
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>>92641173
This
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>>92641173
>People hate change, people hate loss, people hate suffering, an ending that involved Jack staying in that timeline would have required accepting all three of those
There is more change and loss in the "back to the past ending" than in the "stay in the future ending", at least for the viewer
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>>92641168
Its likely Aku killed anyone who might be even remotely worthy, which is why he usually targets peaceful or happy locations, like that viking village and imprisoned its leader in stone to make sure he would never be worthy.
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>>92641177
Don't keep going along with this. He's either legit retarded or just baiting you, my friend.
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>>92641287
Only if you think in that absolutely immediate sense. In the go to the past ending, Jack goes back to how his old life was, gets his family back, and the centuries of suffering that was Aku's reign ceases to be. The back to the past ending is a reversion to status quo; after 50 years, Jack basically gets to pick up his old life.
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>>92641153
Too hard for you future spergs to get?

You're saying its good that Aku ruled the galaxy as a tyrant for thousands of years and made trillions suffer because you can't let the Scotsman or other Jack allies go.

It's fucking pathetic, no different than saying "the Holocaust is good because the neighbors I like met in a concentration camp"
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Im not mad at any specific point of the ending. Im mad at the fact it looks like genndy purposely chose to ignore every single way to give the series proper closure for sake of making a sad ending, even if dont make much sense. He actually had to go out of his way to deny previously stabilished themes to put his sad ending.
He could have chosen to not send jack to the past
He could have chosen to give casuality a middle finger and ashi and the guys in the future keep existing (needed to kill future aku first, though).
He could have killed ashi as soon as past aku died to give the series a proper sad ending
He could have went with the reincarnation in a better future ending.
He could have went with everyone dies, aku wins, but at least jack and his friends have peace in heaven.
He could have done anything
All those are more consistent and better than the borderline nihilistic stuff we got
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>>92641287
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>>92641331
Thanks, I will, I'm never sure when to stop with these things. Don't know why I think I can change people minds by arguing but I keep trying anyway, trolls get to me a lot.
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>>92641360
My fucking nigga.
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>>92641347
The holocaust wasn't good, but it and ww2 were immensely important formative events in the world as we know it. Undoing either would require erasing billions of humans and basically rewriting reality as we know it.
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>>92641244
>dozens of examples of Aku enslaving people and destroying their homeworlds for thousands of years
>hurr a future without Aku might be worse

Contrarians should kill themselves.
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>>92641347
>missing the point this hard

Good fucking lord.
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How did my innocent little memorial thread become a magnet for such unfathomable stupidity?

>>92641386
At least you tried. That's what counts.
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>>92641202
>4 seasons of one goal before deciding at the last minute, "Y'know, fuck my mission"

This is why you're not a writer, anon
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>>92641417
We didn't have Aku and we still destroyed homelands and enslaved millions, sooooo
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>>92641426
Explain it then faggot because I explained my point.
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>>92641337
Jack lifes changed when he was 8. There is very little to pick it . He is a 70 something year old man. It is even creepy to use this "old life" argument. Makes jack sound like Michael Jackson.
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>>92641426
Just do what I do. Leave the thread. Its a lost cause.
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>>92641433
If that was his true and ultimate goal, why did he always choose to help people in the future, instead of just using the damned time portals?

>I'm not a writer because trying to incorporate a character arc that is interesting in the last season, which also tried to subvert previous tropes, doesn't suit your devoted gendy cocksucking
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If you expected an ending with as many loose ends as this show to be wrapped up in a satisfactory way in a short 22 minute episode, you're a foolish samurai.

The real crime is how carried away Genndy got with the Ashi romance subplot forgetting that we only have 10 episodes and need to set 2 or 3 aside for a proper ending (the thing fans have waited for for a decade.)
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>>92641433
>implying you need talent to write
Sad.
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>>92641462
Was the 50 years timeskip thing even necessary? Did it even play a purpose outside of some needless source of tragedy?
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Would you not sacrifice yourself and be erased from existence to stop the greatest evil plaguing your planet and causing untold misery and destruction for possibly a millenia?
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>>92641462
"his old life" as in as a member of Feudal Japanese nobility.
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>>92641489
>the thing fans have waited for for a decade.
Read issue 20 of the comics then.
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>>92641510
No, because it also involves sacrificing billions of others who aren't involved in the decision.
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>>92641521
>mfw Jack's family legacy and statue was in Hiroshima
So much for that.
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>>92641433
The entire fucking point of storytelling is that the desired destination is always preferable.

The idea is to have characters learn enough on the way for them to make their own path, not obsessively doom a universe to stick to the same path from the beginning.
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>>92641510
According to contrarians no...because "hurr maybe humans might act as evil as the literal being created from an ultimate evil"
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>>92641433
He was already growing out of his self imposed mission in the middle seasons.
"Akus victories arent your failures". All the times he chosen to stay and help rather than return to the past.
And in the end it wasnt even him who made the choise, it was ashi.
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>>92641553
*isn't always preferable
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>>92641482
Because he's a good person who can't abandon people. He also, as a feudal Samurai, lacks an understanding of time travel and causality. The part of his character that demands he go back to the past to stop Aku's reign of terror is the same one that demands he help people in trouble over accessing a time portal if he has to choose one or the other.
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>>92641035
You don't follow your fathers bloodline or your mother idiot. Your genes are made from both of them. You cannot exist in any fashion without both of them. It's why there is such a cearianty everyone doesn't exist now.
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>>92641510
Just one person who's fine with it? Sure. A billion/trillion others who don't even know what's going on?

Also, since the future that is Aku has been undone, I'm guessing the alien fairies will have to seek out help from someone else when they inevitably crash land on Earth? Oh wait, the government will just dissect them and steal their shit.
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>>92641547
Which also saves trillions of lives made to suffer a timeline of absolute Aku dominance.

You know Aku...the guy whose government officals immigrate mass killers and assign them a village to slaughter with total sadism.
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>>92641555
Well future reality did wind up featuring Hitler, Stalin and Pol Pot, as well as God knows who else in the future.
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>>92641510
It would depend how well I was living in such a world. If I had a steady job and an alien thot or two I probably would roll with it
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>>92641047
>not getting the joke
Jack stop Aku in the past so those 5 seasons never happen
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>>92641587
>can't abandon people
That's literally what he did though.
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>>92641558
>He was already growing out of his self imposed mission in the middle seasons.
>implying most on /co/ ever even watched the old series and didn't just binge it at the last minute to stay trending like the fags they are
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>>92641595
It saves as many as it destroys, it's not a net gain. And again, it involves killing a whole shitload of people who have no say in that decision. Even one person being sacrificed against their will for this is wrong.
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>>92641433
>I never watch this show before season 5 the post
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>>92641595
Those trillions of lives exist in the afterlife though.

Erased existences don't get that privilege.
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>>92641595
White people have doing that all throughout history but we shouldn't be sending boys back to stop them and thus dooming our reality. It already happened.
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>>92641598
All of which eventually died and their legacy replaced with better men and societies.

Versus Aku the immortal unkillable tyrant who goes out of the way to make you suffer for his pleasure rather than ideology.
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>>92641661
Where was this established besides your head canon?
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>tfw the extra thicc snece never canonically happened
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>>92641595
There is literally nothing wrong with genociding undocumented inhabitants of official government property when introducing official immigrants.
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>>92641598
Yu Yu Hakusho said it best.
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>>92641489
I hate retards like you. There was 1 lose end. The vision of king Jack
That's it
The mess of season 5 was brought on by the obsession of injecting a fuck toy into Jacks life.
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>>92641618
Well fuck, now I'm sad.

>>92641595
You can't be this fucking stupid.
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>>92641661
Depends.
If you believe the soul comes from nothing then yes.
But whatever made them still exists out there.
They may not be exactly the same but in a sense they will be themselves.
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>>92641673
And new tyrants crop up after those men. Reality will feature copious suffering in either case. People in this thread are also making the freshman philosophical mistake of assuming that an existence with suffering is worse than no existence at all, which makes me ask: how do you feel about anti-natalism?
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>>92641684
Explain to me how someone like Scotsman for example can exist in the afterlife if he never existed.

Unless you're asking about afterlife in general, in which case fuck off
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>>92641619
Which is part of the many reasons why the last episode was shit.
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>>92641692
This.

The ending we got was worse than no ending at all.
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>>92641684
>"I never watched the series" - the post
Why must we allow faggots and newfags on this board?
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>>92641065
Just like he tried before Aku possessed Ashi? Note how bloody casual Aku was when Jack went full serious on him.

It would be like the old eps.
>Ow ow the SWOOOORD
>Transforms the fuck away
>See you later Samurai Jack-off

Jack beat Aku because he already beat the shit out of him in the past, that much was clear.
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>>92641673
>replaced with better men and societies.
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>>92641737
No, explain how people erased don't go to the afterlife in the Jack universe. Give supporting evidence from the show to prove it.

The Scotsman was just Celtic Magic
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>>92641684
Episode 5 or 6, jack vs the lava monster. The proud viking warrior goes to valhalla in the end of the episode carried by a valkyre. Eternal joy in a akuless paradise along gods. Thats the fate of all who died fighting aku.
Now they got erased.
You would know that if you watched the damn series.
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>>92641688
It hurts me too...
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>mfw I made the shittiest ending possible to keep you dumb goys constantly talking about my show in 20 different threads at any given time
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>>92641717
>ocassional temporary tyranny versus immortal endless tyranny
>tyranny to push ideology verus tyranny to encourage maximum suffering

You can't be this stupid.
>hurr I'd rather have a god despot that tortures me for fun because bad things might happen even if he wasn't there
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>>92641692
What about the scene dying king of Sparta who said he never saw the Samurai again? Or Jack abandoning time portals multiple times to save people but this time ignoring countless friends sacrificing themselves to get back to the past
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>>92641804
>>92641778

No really, prove that the people erased wouldn't go to some other plane of existence or afterlife with actual evidence from the show, not just what you assume. Prove they were even erased in the first place. You simply can't and are just arguing based on assumptions with no word from Genndy on it.
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>>92641816
Yeah that's a bad plan considering how poor other shows suffered from that
Nice flash fire talk sure but it damages your rep in the long run
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>>92637874
Its like 2000 years in the future caused by Aku meaning Scotman never exists due to Aku being gone.
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>>92641767
It literally wasn't. I'd have rather kept my head canon than know the entire journey was for fucking nothing.
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>>92641788
>See you later Samurai Jack-off
I would've liked that ending.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mAorIEjwDRE
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>>92641800
How would they go to the afterlife if they are literally nothing but a memory now? What level of retardation are you operating on rn?
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>>92641800
People don't go the afterlife cause they don't exist. Duh.
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>>92641836
No, I personally would rather have an existence of suffering than no existence at all, you mong. Which I'm sure plenty of people in the Aku timeline would have said.

>>92641856
Something that never exists can't go anywhere, this is basic logic you schmuck. Now you're retreating into "let's play the why game" territory.
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>>92641864
>undo the future that is Aku
Jack succeed entirely in the goal he set out on. You're just mad because it means "muh Scotsman" doesn't exist now.
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>>92641856
>jack without aku I would have never EXISTED

So what, are you trying to say there's a special time jail heaven where theoretical people now inhabit?

So something your pulling out of the deepest crevasse of your ass?
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Janitor. Mod... Anyone. Please. Delete my thread. Its beyond saving.
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>>92641850
Did you link the wrong post or are you just retarded? Those are not lose plot points or issues that needed resolved
And even if they were, that's a total of 3 plot hooks needed dealt with. Thus any faggot crying to much needed to be resolved in that 210 minutes is stupid and everything wrong with viewers today.
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>>92641898
>>92641880
>>92641868
>>92641908

Sad that you're getting upset over your own assumptions of how an imaginary afterlife presumably presided over by omnipotent beings operates.
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>>92641856
In the absence of evidence otherwise we have to assume that the logical thing happened and they were erased just like Ashi was. It's on Genndy to show or imply otherwise if he didn't want us to think Samurai Jack erased all his future friends and allies.
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>>92641906
>character's can't change or grow in the course of fiction

People like you are the reason shit like the Marvel cinematic universe exists.
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>>92641921
This thread hurting your feelings faggot? Go to tumbler if you want a safe space
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>>92641856
They were erased just like ashi did. Its you who are going the extra step and assuming all souls of peoe WHO DONT EVEN EXIST ANYMORE went to a afterlife. But i agree that the show answers nothing. Thats the kind of stuff you expect to see explained in an epilogue of a show with crazy magic going around, the thing we didnt get AT ALL.
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>>92641945
This. Now can we please all shut up already and let this thread die?
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>>92641926
>presumably presided over by an omnipotent being

Prove it.
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>>92641926
I once spent hours wondering why God would create Heaven or Hell but I realised it futile because the real reason is because he felt like it. Maybe god like beings create afterlives for their most favorite matter puppets or something out for no real reason.
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>>92641926
Odin, Ra, and Vishnu aren't omnipotent though. They're all Omniscient, however.
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>>92641963
All three of those gods are from texts which outline the afterlife.

>>92641965
Deep.

>>92641971
My bad.
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Future fans are cuckolds. They would enjoy letting billions suffer in the past and future from Aku's machinations than choose to have theoretically unperson'd an entire timeline. Marty McFly is less chicken than you children.
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>>92641952
wut

What does this have to do with tumblr? Or hurt feelings? We have idiots like you arguing in the most retarded way possible. The disgust of such stupidity is more than enough reason to delete this thread.

Honestly, summerfags like you truly do make this place worse.
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>>92641993
>All three of those gods are from texts which outline the afterlife.

Not one of them is omnipotent. Odin in fact is fated to die, and powerless to do anything about it (in fact his attempts to do so actually just seal his fate).
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>>92642013
But /co/ has always been the worst board.
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>>92641952
>tumbler
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>>92641926
All I'm asking is what is in this series that would imply that nonexistent people would have an afterlife. You were saying I was basing shit off of headcanon earlier but that's so ironic it hurts.
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>>92642012
>cuckolds

You just lost by default.
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>>92641510
of course
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>>92642031
Fair point. I won't argue with that.

>>92642012
>children
Just fuck my board up senpai.
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>>92642013
>heh I'm going to claim high ground by calling EVERYONE idiots!

Dude, you're calling people summerfags when you don't even know how to delete your own thread. Loll fucking kill yourself. Seriously.
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>>92641945
So your selfish and have tunnel vision. Good to know.

Aku has spent thousands of years literally destroying planets and enslaving worlds. But changing all that is wrong because you enjoy working in some crystal mine slaving for an evil supervisor while some evil minion gets official protection to slaughter villages for fun.
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>>92642037
You made the assumption they wouldn't, you're the one who has to prove the distinction and you can't. If you weren't the Anon who made the original post then you need to follow comment chains better.
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>>92642065
He didn't make the thread. I did. Only reason I'm keeping it around is because I want to see how many dumbasses are willing to defend the Scotsman's unnecessary erasure and offer moronic arguments to justify it.
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>>92642075
But all of that is wrong because an infinite number of people are being erased against their consent. Is an existence with suffering worse than no existence at all? Would you have preferred not exist to not suffer?

But you're acting as though the concern is Jack's choice of action, the concern here is Genndy's writing and whether it was a satisfactory conclusion to the series, which it fucking wasn't. It was a forced reversion to status quo meant to shove in a ham-handed sad ending.
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>implying that the Scotsman didn't understand Jacks' quest since day 1?
Why are anti-past fags so retarded? Just about everyone he's ever met knew who he was, what he was from, and what he planned to do. They all accepted it because they realized their own sacrifice of non existence would mean a better tomorrow for everyone else.
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>>92642075
Changing it all would imply that Jack did the heroic thing and rebuilt the future.

What you meant was UNDOING it, which involves either the cast coming together in a moment of existential consensual sacrifice or Jack running away like a baby (this ending was the latter)
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>>92642081
Saying non existent things don't exist in any form isn't an assumption, It's the definition of what a non existent thing is.

Saying non existent people exist is a pretty big claim though.
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>>92641592
I know. Which is why it won't suck to be me, since I won't exist.
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>>92638662
Damn that's deep
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So is the entity that Aku came from the Greek Chaos?
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>>92642130
I don't think most of the people Jack met understood causality all that well. Plenty of them might have believed they would exist there just wouldn't be an Aku.
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>>92642130
Oh yeah the Scotsman totally understood which is why he tried to marry off his children and was otherwise super protective of them in the final battle.

Jk go to your hugbox.
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>>92642134
No, I think the heroic thing is making sure Aku's evil reign never got started in the first place, which is what jack did in the end.
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>>92642168
Many of them probably would still exist just at different times or different places.
For example, let's think about the robots. Although they were created specifically for Aku's bidding, it seems fitting that in this world scientists would create these robots again but with a purer purpose.

Gennedy's by far worst mistake was having no epilogue.
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>>92642130
He didn't understand shit. Jack never even told him of his quest you ninny. Only hint that he ever knew about it was in the sirens episodes and even then it was clear his understanding was pretty simplistic, probably because it was in Jack's wanted posters.
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>>92642081
You are the one who say they do and dont have anything to prove it. Burden of proof always fall on the one affirming it. You are affirming the deleted people went to the afterlife. We are denying and asking why, if the setting dont make the slighthest hint towards it during the entire series.
You are the one with the head canon, we are on the neutral "nothing happened unless noted by the series" position. How do you even function in real life?
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>Not understanding the sacrifice people made for a better existence without Aku.

Is this the true litmus test for autism?
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Why couldn't they just do the happy ending. Make it a multiple timelines thing where Jack kills aku and then goes back and kills past Aku which creates a new timeline while the old timeline still exists. Ashi lives because her timeline still exists. Best of both worlds and everyone is happy. I didn't even like Ashi but I would have liked this infinitely more than the trash we got.
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>>92641553
Here are your options
>Doom a universe to a life of suffering
>Doom a universe that has suffered for centuries to be reset

>>92641648
Nice meme, faggot
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>>92642229
>implying the Scotsman would sacrifice his daughters
Bull-fucking-shit
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>>92642233
This is exactly what I've been saying since the finale.
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>Aku kills everyone but Jack in the final battle
>Jack kills Aku
>Jack has nothing left to live for in the future
>finds a way back to the past (dying Ashi portals him back?)
>is now justified killing Aku because there is no future for anyone with Aku alive

It's not hard to make the ending work Genndy
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>>92642180
>implying the Scotsman wasn't aware that he needed help to fight
>implying he knew that Jack would come back and defeat Aku himself
>implying the Scotsman wouldn't exist in this new universe anyway since the idea of a Scottish man isn't one that unique to an Aku world
>>92642233
100% agree. It was stupid that Jack suddenly left the future mid-battle instead of defeating Aku.
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>>92642233
Jack wouldn't really have lost anything and we couldn't have an epic bittersweet ending where he looks at a bug.
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>>92642258
The very fact that he has them ride into battle with him shows he IS willing to sacrifice his daughters to stop Aku. He just wants to make sure it accomplishes something and not a worthless gesture.
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>>92637807
I see this argument that future characters don't exist anymore, and it makes me think of what they thought of Back to the Future?
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SHUT UP FUTUREFAG!!! REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>92642201
But that involves the sacrifice of millions of unconsenting people. That's not heroic at all.
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>>92642312
But then he has them run off as soon as he realizes Aku can't be killed. He aint sacrificing jackshit.
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>>92642205
It would depend how far in the future Jack is. The Longer Aku leaves a mark on his surroundings, which as a galactic dictator he would do a lot of, the more and more change would occur by removing him.

I don't know about the robots. Aku seemed to be dumping a lot of moolah on murderbots. Maybe humans in a peaceful good future can't find the economical value in creating intelligent humanoid robots. All those robots from the Robo Samurai episode are just conveyor belt arms now
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>>92640284
Mad?
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>>92642348
He realized he had no chance because he didn't have Jack's sword.
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>>92642313
I honestly wouldn't even think this if Ashi hadn't disappeared.
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>>92642081
We have proof in series the afterlife exists. There is no proof that there is an afterlife headed by some "time deity" Rick Sanchez bullshit anywhere in the series.
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>>92637807
Samurai Jack episodes ll-Cl are now noncanon stories
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>>92642233
Because genndy was dead set since day one to make the ending bittersweet. He overdid it, and for me it was just outright bleak. I honestly dont think he put nearly as much thought in philosophical implications of non existence, afterlife and existence of soul we are putting it here, so i say go with whatever interpretation pleases you the most
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>>92642365
He went in thinking he had a chance of winning. He's an old fashioned and over confident seasoned warrior who thought his girls would go unharmed and win with his army, but when the realization came, they backed off, and when it came time to save Jack, one would expect Jack to kill Aku there first before leaving them all high and dry and his daughters to die.
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>>92642375
Yeah, but so did Marty McFly until he got his parents together.

Would be an entirely different story if Marty's oldman got killed.
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So is this what futurefags want?

>Jack kills future Aku
>becomes immortal king with Ashi
>good forces commit mass murder on evil Aku supporting groups
>future Earth cleaned of corruption, pollution and crime
>Jack gets long beard and Spartan look like in Guardians prophecy
>rules over Earth and its sentient life

This is the basic idea?
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>>92642313
The question should be, what these futurefags think about any bad future scenario ever? I mean, quite a few shows have done this in two parters or specials. Have they ever bitched before about the heroes going back to stop the villians plans just because it would erase all these potential future people?
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>>92642293
existing and dying is a lot less worse than never having existed
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>>92642348
Because they would have died accomplishing nothing. Live to fight another day.

He sent them back in when he realized there WAS a chance to stop him. If he wasnt willing to sacrifice them he wouldnt have allowed them to fight at all. He just wants to make sure their sacrifice actually would accomplish something.
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>>92642307
>jack spent at least 60 years of his life, including his childhood, dedicated to training and hunting down Aku.
>endures countless tragedies and selflessly saves hundreds of lives
>destroys the last remaining piece of ultimate evil in the universe
>"nah he has to lose his love and all of his friends too here's your bittersweet ending"

What the FUCK Genndy?
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>>92642425
Yes.
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>>92642306
>h-he could still exist even though that's literally impossible!

Pathetic.
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>>92642293
That's not very different from the ending we got though. Aku did kill almost everyone.
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>>92642425
yes also would like to see king jack purge/exile xeno scum
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>>92642448
If it makes you feel better he got to see his home and all his old friends/family again.
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>>92642375
Ashi is literally Aku's kid so she has to go if Aku doesn't exist in the future. Lots of other characters are up in the air. The Scotsman seems to just largely be living a life of adventure in his celtic castle, in a celtic community with his celtic wife. Aku might not have had that much of an affect on his origins.
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>>92642229
A better existence is Aku and Jack making babies to govern the future earth after killing Aku.

I mean shit I love my family and all but Ill never abandon a waifu as good as that, I mean thats like a 1 in a billion chance in our world.
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>>92640704
>I'm pretty sure the gods would have a fit if he started spreading to other planets though.

He fucked with other worlds too though. For example that one world he stole the water from, forcing the people to live on earth.
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>>92640884
Was there any interspecies miscegenation in Akus future¿
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>>92642529
>A better existence is Aku and Jack making babies to govern the future earth after killing Aku.

Nice try Aku.
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>>92642313
Ah I see you have a low power brain and need help understanding things.
The issue with Samurai Jack's ending is how it set up the narrative and time traveling rules.
See Back to the Future works because they set established rules on how it all work and why it work like it did.
Jack open a whole box of worms when Ashi faded away saying "without Aku I can't exist" that sealed everyone's fate in the future, every single character is now Ashi, they are gone, removed from existence.
Also Back to the Future established how time travel work and how and why it effected people like it did. Jack's is a bit more of a mess since Ashi's fading away and reasons for it open up like 3 plot holes alone.
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>>92642529
>Aku and Jack making babies
Im fine with this, and Jack also doesnt seem to mind Aku pussy
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>>92637874
>>92638549
>>92642313
>>92642318
>>92642435
>>92642440
We really are worse than reddit.
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>>92642425
Most aku supporters are robots dude. Lots of them look really human\alien but they still end up being robots.
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>>92637807
JUST LET THE SHOW DIE

ITS ALREADY DEAD
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>>92642435
That's a perception argument and shows how naive you are. A person born with no limbs and seriously abusive care takers would much rather take nonexistence then suffer a life of hell.
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>>92642435
>inexperienced opinion with no understanding of the self or time paradoxes and anomalies
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>>92642435
This, this is true because afterlife exists in Samurai Jack.
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>>92642575
Got any you can use to prove that assertion?
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>>92642481
From an artistic stand point we needed to see the true hopelessness of it. OPs posting would not survive if we saw ghost dad and his girls get killed on screen.
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>>92642560
If only...
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>>92637807
>whole goal was to travel back in time and "undo the future that is AKU"
>people upset when it actually happens

Is it just newfags or did you guys not think what that meant?
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>>92642559
Factory sadist, evil scientists and mass murderer immigrant were all non-robotic

But yeah because of the no blood rule of season 1-4 most Aku minions were robots.
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Also if Ashi ceased to existed due to the future that is Aku ceasing to exist, wouldn't future Jack and all of his experiences have ceased to exist, thus rendering the event as something that never actually occurred?
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>>92642435
Disregard my post >>92642585 as it wasn't meant for you.

And I accidentally quoted you here >>92642558
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>>92642602
Not him but how about anyone who commits suicide as an example.
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>>92642625
Robots are better than meatfags anon, Jack fighting machines is a way for that hack to show how fucking strong Jack is.
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>>92642586
This. Though it is unknown if the afterlife in SJ is exempt from time fuckery. Do all those that Aku killed still exist in the afterlife? I want to say yes. Gods are usually immune to time rewriting shit and exist outside the flow of time.
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Why didn't Aku send himself into a future where Samurai Jack isn't around and start taking over then?
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>>92642642
Yes, but Genndy didn't have time to show Jack disappear at the end and everything basically reset to the last stable moment in time.
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>>92642615
Read the thread dense faggot.
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>>92642663
I like to assume that Aku is wise enough to avoid messing with time too much. Also, chances are he did but Jack was immortal.
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>>92642657
There are a clusterfuck of after lives since there are at least three mythologies that are fact in Samurai Jack.

Hinduism
Nordic Paganism
Greek Paganism
Egyptian Paganism
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How did Jack even remember Ashi if she fucking ceased to exist and never existed because Aku died?
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>>92642313
Back to the future was a comedy with a happy ending. I would be happy if genndy told casuality to fuck off and no one gets erased even with aku dying in the past.
Genndy tried to pull a dramatic sad ending. If he want a emotional response, he better work the story to be consistent.
What we had is about the same level of pulling a "duck amuck" on us, we see a giant pencil and eraser on screen, as genndy himself erases the series and tell us to be sad about it. Those 2 things dont work together
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>>92642648
Are a tiny minority of humanity, also when stopped from killing themselves, they don't typically attempt it again. Suicide is typically a momentary impulse, not a well thought-out decision. Even the vast majority of people raised under horrific tyrannies or during wars and genocides don't typically kill themselves to escape suffering.
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>>92642711
I think that's why he smiled at the end, because he fucking forgot her.
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>>92641428
Because the ending was underwhelming.
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LONG AGO IN A DISTANT LAND
I AKU THE SHAPESHIFTING MASTER OF DARKNESS
UNLEASHED AN UNSPEAKBLE EVIL
BUT A FOOLISH SAMURAO WIELDING A MAGIC SWORD
SET FORWARD TO OPPOSE ME!
(SWISH CLANG CUT)
BEFORE THE FINAL BLOW WAS STRUCK
I TORE OPEN A PORTAL IN TIME AND CAST HIM INTO THE FUTURE WHERE MY EVIL IS LAW
NOE THE FOOL SEEKS TO RETURN TO THE PAST AN UNDO THE FUTURE THAT IS AKU!
WhAT YoU'rE BaCK alReaDy?!
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>>92637807
There's been so many episodes where Jack had second thoughts and ultimately turned his back on the portal to save the lives that were at stake.

What the fuck happened to that Jack?
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>>92641510
No. Fuck you, I don't wanna die. Hell, dying would be at least something. I don't want to have my existence undone.
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>>92642602
anon his examples are irl
https://asiancorrespondent.com/2017/04/malaysia-boy-loses-legs-alleged-abuse-school-warden/
http://articles.courant.com/2007-04-26/news/0704261098_1_child-s-arm-child-abuse-injuries
http://www.courant.com/news/connecticut/hc-newington-child-abuse-0927-20160926-story.html

none of those kids are better off existing the hell given to them. To think that existence < non existence in every case regardless of how they live is just screaming personal insecurity you have with death.
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>>92642714
This reminds me of that one time traveling movie with that British guy. The one that had it as his family's secret and his father told him about it.
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>>92642755
In a world where the afterlife is true death suddenly become meaningless because you still exist anyway.

Fuck why couldnt that be our world.
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>>92642724
you are walking into self preservation which is a genetic thing, not grounded in logic or wisdom.
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>>92642749
HAVE YOU FORGOTTEN YOUR PURPOSE?
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>>92642711
Honestly this doesn't bother me at all. I make an exception for Jack since he had the whole unable to age thing in the future. Time travel affected him in a very unique way. Since he is the one who caused the future to no longer exist it just makes sense to me that he can still remember everything.
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>>92642763
The argument here is that Aku's future was filled with lives who obviously would not approve of Jack undoing the future if they knew what he was doing.
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>>92642763
Has anyone asked those kids if they'd like to be erased?

Also since you're trying to turn this into a personal attack, your own aversion to an existence of suffering is nothing more than you projecting your own weakness and cowardice onto everyone else you fucking worm.
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>>92642724
I just meant provide an example of a person who would prefer nothingness over future suffering.

I would say the reason why those people dont commit suicide is because they have some hope for a better future. If the person had no hope they may prefer suicide.

Which is starting to approach, though not quite there yet, off topic. Simply providing an example, nothing more.
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>>92642763
You're conveniently leaving out the afterlife part though. If I had a hellish life but I could chill in Valhalla for all eternity, sign me up senpai.
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>>92642700
I did and all I see is butthurt over an obvious conclusion, not mention all the other threads complaining about it.
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>>92642663
Why didn't Aku just go after them in the portal?
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>>92642789
Logic and wisdom aren't grounded in logic or wisdom. We're not logical or wise creatures, driven primarily by emotions and any distinction between logic and emotion is inherently flawed. This is pretty basic shit here buddy.
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>>92642394
To be fair, ladybugs are often seen as symbols of rebirth in Japanese culture, and the Japanese attitude towards souls is that they are impermanent and timeless - if Ashi could have existed at one point, her soul MUST exist in the afterlife.

Of course we have no confirmation at all of what happened to her and everyone else in the future though so unless we get an alt. ending or Genndy answers some fucking questions, the ending currently looks super bleak and depressing.

I would be totally fine with them all being dead if it meant the slim chance Jack gets to see them again one day once he dies and goes to Asian Heaven.
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>>92642836
Because it closed when he tried to stick his hand in it.
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>The lives of like two hundred people whose lives were made less shitty by Jack are more important than the countless trillions of lives that were destroyed and ended by Aku's interstellar empire of evil

Remember that? The part where Aku didn't just rule earth, he also made life shitty for an indeterminate number of other life-bearing worlds? That Aku literally worked the people of Jack's homeland into their graves as literal slaves?
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>>92642790
>mad Jack suicidal hallucination

So that's what was guiding him?
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I like how people seem to think that Aku could be beaten in the future. Like, 'Oh why doesn't Jack just go in with an army and beat Aku!" When Aku himself says exactly what's going to happen. He's had years to learn every trick in the book.

Best case scenario, Aku effortless wipes everyone out, and is distracted enough by his victory and gets shnked from behind.

Except then he still just makes a bunch of Aku clones, and sends them in every direction and gets away, with everyone dying for noting.

The only real way Jack was gonna get Aku was going back to the past.
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>>92642798
No it isn't, that's what you want it to be but what started this was a post about an ending that would justify resting everything, but you are taking a weird ass approach to rationalize keeping him from changing the future.
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Jack was in the right to kill aku.
Dispite all the friends he made in the future. He never belonged there to begin with.
Ashi would've never existed if aku hadn't thrown him into the future.
Nothing of value was lost.
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>>92642798
This. Jack sacrificed thousands of unwilling lifeforms to destroy Aku and he doesn't seem to give a fuck. Not that i'm saying Jack shouldn't have done it, it's just weird that it never came up.
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>>92642549
One set up more and had more to do with the story? How exactly were they all that different anyway? The only real problem was the universe being destroyed.

It's all up to interpretation, so there is no real answer because none was given, and honestly why do people think the future world that had Aku existing is better because the characters exist rather than one being a possibility of either like some sort of schrodinger's cat situation?
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>>92642828
Then you would know that people expected Jack to go through an arc with the time travel bullshit. Instead of chasing magical remedies to his past, he would work towards the future like the hero he was, instead of just running away.
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>>92642798
wow, you moved that goal post all the way into the Atlantic ocean.
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>>92642825
>If I had a hellish life but I could chill in Valhalla for all eternity, sign me up senpai.

This. A lifetime of pain is worth an eternity of peace.

I get the feeling Genndy really didn't think out the ending much at all.
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>>92642856
Mad jack was a manifestation of jack contemplating giving up his mission. And being content with staying in the future.
He had to finish the mission.
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>>92642825
But you never exist so you have no pain, no existence to grieve. You are simply not there.
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Listen fags existence is better than nonexistence end of discussion.
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>>92642351
You think? I don't know. I feel like plenty of utopian sci fi societies have AI running around.
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>>92642855
Wow sounds like Jack shouldn't have underestimated aku and prevented that from happening the first time.

Good thing they're all chilling in the afterlife though.
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>>92642783
Exactly. I'd rather die and go to an afterlife rather than have my entire being and soul retconned out of existence.
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>>92642895
I love that you call completing his mission running away. such a coward undoing all that suffering and devastation.
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>>92642899
How did I move the goal post when it was you idiots who derailed my thread into a subject of morality?

>>92642763
>>92642602
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>>92640889
A) No
B) No

>>92642731
No.
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>>92642919
So you didn't watch the season then.
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>>92642849
That's stupid. He was able to pull Jack out half-way in he should have went back with them so we could have a decent finale.

Genndy is a lazy Jewish fuck who poorly allocated his time despite only being given 10 episodes.
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DAMNIT GENNDY DID ASHI GO TO HEAVEN OR NOT

ANSWER ME YOU SOVIET COCKSUCKER FUCKING REEEEEEEEE
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>>92642839
>Logic and wisdom aren't grounded in logic or wisdom
even for sthitposting this is just retarded.
>driven primarily by emotions
no, you are, but many humans have proven that is not the case for them. Go wallow in your weak mind if you must but do not try to drag us all in the mud thinking that we all must be primal animals that feed on just impulses.
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>>92642926
You cant prove that because you exist. And are biased to nonexistence.
We dont know if the people in the future ceased to exist entierly or if they got portaled to another universe entierly.
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>>92642921
But you did exist at one point, and could have continued to exist if someone didn't take your existence away from you without your consent.
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>>92642970
He was able to pull him out half-way last time because that portal never closed.
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>>92642911
>I get the feeling Genndy really didn't think out the ending much at all
No shit he didn't. He could have easily shown everyone in the future now living better Aku-less lives but he decided to pull a Gurren Lagann and have Jack stare at a ladybug.
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>>92642575
what if they got bionic limbs and a guaranteed happy life with loving parents, but then they faded away?

that's what happened with ashi.
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>>92642895
Nothing suggested any of that in the slightest.

>instead of just running away.

Undoing thousands of years of torment and strife is now cowardly? Fuck off with your busted headcanon.
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>>92642921
That's horrifying.

>>92642980
>You cant prove that because you exist
Cogito ergo sum. That's all that I can prove. So fuck you.
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>>92642975
You think Ashi had a soul? She was literally a piece of Aku. Also she never really died. So even if she had a soul it never would have moved on. She's gone m8
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>>92642953
Yeah he undid everything at the cost of literally everyone in the aku future.

The entire series he was selfless about going back in time, now he isn't. Because bad writing.
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>>92642970
> He was able to pull Jack out half-way in he should have went back with them so we could have a decent finale.

...I actually forgot about that. Fuck.

>>92642980
Only those who exist can contemplate the value of nonexistence, dipshit.
>We dont know if the people in the future ceased to exist entierly or if they got portaled to another universe entierly.
Yeah thats kinda the problem.
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>>92642995
I don't give a shit if the portal closed. Genndy should have written it not to close. I'm talking about what ought to have happened. I don't care what bullshit he tried to use to excuse this loathsome fuck of an ending.
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>>92641177
Not that anon, but it's not remotely an "arbitrary reason", in fact it's a very specific reason. Aku is literally the ultimate evil in that world, his messing around with time travel should not have happened.
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>>92642962
Jack was about to give up his mission, and kill himself. Are you telling me he shouldve let aku win?
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>>92642980
Just kill yourself already nihilistfag.
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>>92642970
He was able to pull Jack out halfway because the portal stayed open, it was a permanent fixture. Ashi's was more like teleportation and closed after it was used. Aku even tries to yank him out again but isn't fast enough.
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>>92642980
Got any evidence that they were portaled?
>Jack I no longer EXIST

Is concrete proof that they stopped existing.
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>>92642955
>who derailed my thread
>my thread
oh boy you have some serious autism. It wasn't your thread and people are allowed to share thoughts and ideas as they please, you are just trying to police it to follow some unspoken rule that has never been here on 4chan.
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>>92643021
>Jack could've hopped in the portal in S1E8 and the ending would've been completely identical except for the wedding scene

You know I don't really think there is a way to make an ending that invalidates most of the previous events in a series without it being shitty. I remember when Lost ended with its stupid "they were all in purgatory" ending and everyone lost their fucking shit. It's inherently unsatisfying.
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Ending would have been more effective if everyone else in the future was shown to be happy/better off without Aku, but Ashi is the one who fades away, unable to enjoy her happy future because of her heritage.
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>>92642978
>even for sthitposting this is just retarded.

It's not. This basic philosophy these days. The Munchausen Trilema and such. You can't be logical or wise because your mind isn't logical or wise; it's akin to trying to pull yourself up out of a bog by your ponytail. No matter what you do, you're still governed by your emotional responses and underlying instincts; consciousness itself is just a vast oversimplification of neural processes that we have no control over.

>no, you are, but many humans have proven that is not the case for them. Go wallow in your weak mind if you must but do not try to drag us all in the mud thinking that we all must be primal animals that feed on just impulses.

Look buddy, I know you want to think your something more than an animal living in a deterministic universe, that you're somehow special and you've attained an understanding of pure logos, but you're not, you do, and the logos doesn't exist. Every decision you make, every "yea or nay" is an emotional one, and the distinction of logical thought versus emotional thought was rooted in a flawed understanding of the human mind.
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>>92643045
I don't care about that, anon. It was a lazy piece of shit and we didn't get a satisfying conclusion because of it.

And for fuck's sake, he's AKU. He should have been able to hold the portal open it, or open his own portal and get back to the past to undo the past that is Samurai Jack.

There's no excuse.
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>>92642980
Just when I thought this thread couldn't get any stupider.

>>92642978
>so much smug in one post
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>>92643014
He literally left the future with aku in the final battle. That's the literal definition of cowardice. People are sacrificing their lives and he just goes and wipes them all so he can see mom and dad again.
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>>92642926
Yet I bet you support abortion.
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>>92643088
>the final thing the Scotsman got to see before he vanished into nothingness was his wee bonny daughters getting gangraped by Aku clones
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>>92643040
I agree with you, I was just trying to say why he didn't just pull them out. That's all.
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>>92643070
This. But Genndy had to go and pull a GL and leave the fates of everyone in the future a big fat question mark leaning on the side of nonexistence.
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>>92643088
Indeed unlike Trunks who had no choice but to try and undo the shithole the Androids created, there was still hope in Jack's future world. We met many civilizations that live nice lives seperate from Aku's shithole cities.
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>>92642989
>But you did exist at one point
did I? What is to say that whole world wasn't just Jack's mind, what is to say he just simply killed Aku and had a fevered dream of some broken future? It cannot exist if it is not given the chance to exist. When Aku died long ago that was the end of it, there is no future of Aku. The world now moves on in a way that shows that reality has never been, never will be. Existence is very relative.
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>>92641360
>Jack finds meaning in a world without the woman he loved because he realized this is what she would have wanted
>borderline nihilist

You know, I was completely with you until that last sentence.
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>>92642855
>The afterlife of those trillions of people are less important than the hypothetical lives of other people
Remember that? How a those people end upnin heaven, as we see souls being happy multiple times during the series?
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>>92643021
>Yeah he undid everything at the cost of literally everyone in the aku future.

Only if you adhere to the theory that there is no possibility for those people to be born without Aku. I don't.
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>>92643042
He was giving up because he was haunted with torturous images of the PAST which came directly from Mad Jack. His suicidal moment wasn't because of complacency.
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>>92643092
There's lots of reasons to do so that aren't inconsistent with the premise. I'm fond of evictionism myself.
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>>92643107
Oh, okay then. But yeah, Genndy's decision was fucking stupid.
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>>92643070
This.
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>>92643092
Only if the human is too defective like say a retard or a psychopath.
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>>92643000
>what if
That's not the debating point. In the real world examples I gave those kids suffer and died. That was there whole life. To stand there and go "well they want to live" is rather condescending and brutish.
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>>92643106
We don't know how long it took for Aku to vanish. If time works the same both ways we can assume it took some time for the death of Aku in the past to catch up with Aku in the future.

So yeah, hoped they liked tentacles.
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>>92643088
This. We saw numerous times throughout the series that Jack would rather save the people in front of him and give up a portal to the past rather than see people suffer. But now in the finale Jack just leaves everyone being killed and goes back to the past. It's inconsistant with his character.
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Why'd you go through that time portal, you smelly, pajama-wearing, basket-face, slipper-wielding, clype-dreep-balche, gether-uping-blate-maw, bleathering, gomeril, jessie, oaf-looking, scooner, nyaff, plookie, shan, milk-drinking, soy-faced shilpit, mim-moothed, sniveling, worm-eyed, hotten-blaugh, vile-stoochie, cally-breek-tattie?

You'd sacrifice me beautiful daughters to save a moderately-attractive monkey?
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>>92643031
The people who existed im the timeline aku reined supreme in dont exist as themselves in that particular future.
While on the otherhand the exist as a different (person) in the correct timeline in the distant or maybe not so far future.
Hell the chance of all those peoples souls and thoughts just going to waste is slim to none.
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>>92643123
>lava monster guy chilling in Valhalla thanks to Jack
>whoops guess not enjoy your niggers Sweden
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>>92643120
Everything you stated was pointless what if headcanon so consider yourself disregarded.
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>>92643181
Beautiful.
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>>92637874

The future Aku created is gone. Everyone born does not exist anymore. (It's why Ashi eventually disappeared) No future Aku and no mom that drank dank semen.

This creates a new set of events, and it's impossible that the same people that mated after Aku took over the world met and fucked at the same exact time to bear the same exact children, and that's just counting humans.
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>>92643128
It doesn't matter whether the Butterfly Effect applies or not. We don't know, that's the problem. Genndy didn't even show the effects on the future of Jack killing Aku in the past.
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>>92643128
There's literally no way those characters would exist as they are without aku so
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>>92642919
>>92642953
His mission was never to go back to the past. It wasnt given by his father, it wasnt given by his teachers, it wasnt given by his friends, it wasnt given by the gods.
It was entirely self imposed objective of a dumb idealistic 20 something year old boy. His mission was to defeat aku, and he was about to do it before ashi opened the portal in time again. We seen the emperor ghost quite a few times and he is totally chill about the fact jack couldnt do it earlier. As long as aku was dead, his mission was completed.
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>>92643208
Ashi set the bar anon
"without Aku I can't exist"
She never happen, that world,those people, never happen.
They never existed in the first place. They never happen. True and complete nonexistence happen. Otherwise Ashi would exist fine being outside her time.
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>>92643222
I really just want Genndy to make a little epilogue. Or just release some voice-acted stills explaining shit so we can all just get some closure.
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>>92643181
>YA DIDN'T EVEN SAVE THE MONKEY YA HAGGIS-BRAINED DAUGHTER OBLITERATIN' FUTURE ERASIN' SANDAL-WEARING PAJAMA-LOVING SON OF A SHEEP'S ARSE
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Undoing Aku was a bad idea to begin with, Jack should have just killed him in the future, there were so many times Jack could have killed Aku in the five seaons its hilarious.

Time portal is probably Gennedy's reason why Jack didnt just hack Aku to death and call it a day oh no he must find that time portal before everything else hurr.
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>>92643142
And those hallucinations ceased to trouble jack when he allowed himself to let go of the past. Also eradicating his self doubt and allowing him to use the sword.
Jack was resounded to defeat aku like never before.
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>>92643081
And if he had you'd be bitching "THAT'S NOT HOW THE PORTAL WORKED IN THE FIRST EPISODE" or whatever, you fucking autist.
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>>92639768
>when anons make more satisfying conclusions than the creator
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>>92643208
>Ashi can't exist because her "parents" never met
>implying this can't be extrapolated to apply to pretty much everyone in the universe
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>>92643271
Damn it Ashi

>>92643282
This.
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>>92643203
>lava monster guy chilling in Valhalla thanks to Jack
Stuff like this is my biggest complaint about the ending. The majority of episodes in the series focus on Jack helping people out and giving them better lives than what they had, and in the end all of that becomes undone and pointless.

Why did he save the fucking monks if they were going to become nothingness anyway?


>>92643222
>Genndy didn't even show the effects on the future of Jack killing Aku in the past.
This.

>>92643255
>We seen the emperor ghost quite a few times and he is totally chill about the fact jack couldnt do it earlier.
THIS. I can distinctly remember a scene where Jack meets with his dead dad and he says something along the lines of "It is alright my son. You could not save us, but you can save these people, here and now."
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>>92643276
I don't want anything anymore. I just want to forget this season ever happened and move on with my life.

Samurai Jack is done, for real this time.
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>>92643271
Yes, and? It's up to deities to decide existence for people, not hero characters. Jack stripping existence from these people was out of character.
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>>92643335
>undone and pointless
Except, y'know, they never had to experience that shitty life that Jack made better in the first place.
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Make the future great again.

-Aku
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>>92643174
I feel like you guys are forgetting that Jack did not have a say in the matter this time. Ashi whipped up the time portal on her own, giving Jack no time to back out of it.
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>>92643367
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>>92643362
Or life at all.
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>>92643296
No, because it'd be a satisfying ending. The rules were never explained. It could have happened, and it would have been better than what we got.
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>>92643362
Better to experience a shitty life and go to heaven afterwards than not live at all.

>>92643324
>Ashi will never give Jack a slow, warm, wet blowjob with those lips of hers.
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>>92643290
Right, defeat aku. Defeating aku was his true quest. Going back to be past was never what he originally set out to do, and isn't necessary to defeat aku.
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>>92643282
>there were so many times Jack could have killed Aku in the five seaons its hilarious.

"We all know whats going to happen. You'll swing your sword, Ill fly away and probably say something like 'ILL BE BACK SAMURAI' and then Ill flutter over the horizon and we wont see each other for about a week."
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Should have gone with multiverse theory. Then Jack keeps his waifu while all of his friends and allies are trapped in a doomed timeline.
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>>92643335
>why did he save the fucking monks if they were going to become nothingness anyway?

All of this would have been solved if they used the multiple timelines version of time travel.

Fuck you Genndy it could have been a happy ending that made way more sense than this bullshit.
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>>92641222
Instead of one Evil Overlord making your life miserable, you have hundreds of thousands, no, millions, no, *billions*, of lesser complete bastards doing it; heads of state, warlords, terrorists, crazy cops, corrupt politicos (local, state, national, and international), bureaucrats both petty and high-placed, bosses, anti-vaxxers, Vegans, /pol/, that guy who cut me off in traffic, meter-maids, snotty kids, old people, cockteasing jailbait, babies, David Willis, Max Landis, Sudoku writers, Fanfic writers, /co/, Dan Slott, serial killers, the Tea Party...
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>>92643367
>>92643383
Aku might have been bad, but at least he never erased someone from existence.
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>>92643345
> It's up to deities to decide existence for people
that's headcanon my little dummy but you forget that we can look at all they did when Aku was around and see quite clearly that they would do nothing. They would watch the new world unfold and nothing more. Because all they did when Aku was rocken out was left it up to mortals to deal with it.
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>>92643409
hello tumblr
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>>92643368
So Ashi ruined everything? Again?
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>>92643406
at least the Scotsman's daughters get to experience what an Aku tentacle violating their cervix feels like before they die
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>>92643019
Her body was derived from aku, but she very clearly had a human soul.
Hell, i would argue that even being evil incarnated, aku himself had a soul. I would love to see he getting reincarnated into a powerless pet with very bad karma in a hypothetical alternative future.
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>>92643368
But Jack still shows no remorse for leaving and erasing all of his friends even though he obviously cared about that a great deal in many previous episodes.
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>>92643232
Yes there is. Obviously the aliens would be on their own planet, but there is nothing stopping the humans from existing. It's time travel in a cartoon, you can make up any bullshit you like.
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>>92643345
>Jack stripping existence from these people was out of character.
well you can thank Genndy for that.
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>>92643402
Jack now has an overpowered girlfriend who has aku powers.

Aku wouldn't of lasted.
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>>92643391
>Ashi will never give Jack a slow, warm, wet blowjob with those lips of hers.
Feels really bad my bro.

>>92643416
He never even destroyed Demongo.
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>>92643402
That plot induced stupidity, many episodes have shown that Jack can speedblitz Aku and kill him very easily, notice in the fighting episode Jack actually agrees to not using his sword when Aku become vulnerable in that human state?

Plot is the only reason why Jack didnt go lol pranked and stabbed Aku with the sword hidden in the terrain.

Besides Aku only ever gets the upperhand on Jack because the creepy faggots watchs Jack's every move.
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>>92643428
> I can't understand the difference between subtly guiding the paths of fate and directly intervening in mortal battles with magic lasers
wew kid, you know this site is 18+, right?
If you run off now I won't tell your mommy.
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>>92643407
>All of this would have been solved if they used the multiple timelines version of time travel.

But then all those people would be stuck in a world where Aku still existed.
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>>92643406
It should have been that the future was rewritten but everyone who was living there was now living different, better lives because existence is set in stone or whatever the fuck. You could see how everyone, despite no long remembering or knowing of a Samurai Jack, had their lives improved by him thanks to the downfall of Aku. But nope. They never existed. Everything past the first season never happened aside from the last 5 minutes of the finale and that episode where Jack is sold to niggers for a bit.
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>>92643345
> It's up to deities to decide existence for people
and again Ashi set that bar because they allowed her to become nonexistent. Also what the fuck did the gods really do when an ageless evil was destroying there lands? You really think they are going to put any effort in to that head canon you have made? No, jobs done and they will go fuck off just like they did in the show.

> Jack stripping existence from these people was out of character.
that's why most people took issue with the ending
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>>92643428
>that's headcanon
No it's standard fictional practice.
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>>92643391
>Better to experience a shitty life and go to heaven afterwards than not live at all
What's shitty is that the show doesn't even ask that question, to Jack or the viewers. It barely even acknowledged that the future will be undone by going to the past and killing Aku, except for Ashi. Jack definitely seemed more bummed out by Ashi's "death" than never getting to hang out with the Scotsman again.
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>>92643486
I assumed that Jack (or even Ashi) would defeat future Aku before returning to the past.
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>>92643345
>It's up to deities to decide existence for people
well they let Ashi not exist so it's a safe bet they are all gone.
That scene really fucks up any narrative of a future where they exist.
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>>92643489
This.
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>>92643486
So it's either Jack only saves his own timeline or Jack retcons the existence of everyone in the future? Sasuga Genndy
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>>92639287
Can you imagine the alleviated rage if they'd have done this instead of that bit with all his daughter?>>92640064
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>>92643479
Except Aku is shown to take multiple hits to be taken care of, and the immediate moment Jack makes an attack Aku can literally just say 'fuggit' and turn a part of him into a snake or something to slip into the grass or some shit as insurance.
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>>92643507
It would have been nice for Jack to meet someone who realized this and as a result tried to fight him because he was aware that Jack succeeding meant his nonexistence. It would have been an interesting question to address.

But nope.
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>>92643507
And why would he?
He was about to marry Ashi and bad saved her from the brink.
Thats more than whatever the scotsman did for jack.
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>>92643501
The show doesn't follow any standard fictional practice it changed all the damn time, more so in S5.
That's less of an argument you have then just throwing up excuses to block out how the show ended.
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>>92643489
>It should have been that the future was rewritten but everyone who was living there was now living different, better lives because existence is set in stone or whatever the fuck. You could see how everyone, despite no long remembering or knowing of a Samurai Jack, had their lives improved by him thanks to the downfall of Aku.

Nothing stops this from being what happened. You guys are just set on being salty as possible.
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>>92643518
Nope, they just bailed. And left the remains of Jack's army of friends to contend with the now incredibly pissed off and immortal Aku. Who knows how long it took for time to catch up and erase him?
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LONG AGO IN A DISTANT STUDIO
I, GENNDY, SHAPESHIFTING MASTER OF ANIMATION
UNLEASHED AN INCREDIBLE CARTOON SHOW
BUT, A FOOLISH CARTOON NETWORK
WIELDING A MAGIC CANCELLATION
STEPPED FORTH TO OPPOSE ME
BEFORE THE FINAL EPISODE WAS AIRED
I TORE OPEN A PORTAL IN TIME
AND FLUNG THEM INTO THE FUTURE
WHERE MY WRITING IS LAW!
NOW THE FOOLS SEEK TO RETURN TO THE PAST
AND UNDO THE EVIL THAT IS
SEASON 5
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>>92643345
>deities to decide existence for people
And when Ashi faded away that gives a pretty clear answer what they decided.
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>>92643565
Because Jack never fights him in an enclosed area except his lair. All Jack had to do was locate Aku's lair then fuck him up.
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>>92639509
There are people on /v/ who considere TLoU the pinnacle of vidya writing and Corruption to be worse than Other M.

In reality Aku has won and we have no Samurai to set things straight.
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>>92643603
Maybe Aku will be in such a good mood that Jack's gone that he forgets about the rebels long enough for them to run away.
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I love the rationalization of a show with magic time portals. I'm not trying to attack or defend the show but what about this series made you think any sort of well explained finale was going to happen?
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>>92643565
How the fuck did Jack kill Aku anyway? Sliced him up a bit, sucked him into the sword, then stabbed the sword into the ground and he... exploded?

>>92643585
>Nothing stops this from being what happened.
Except we never see it and Ashi is erased from existence, implying some kind of Butterfly Effect at play. Therefore the chances of anyone being born at this point are infinitesimal.
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>>92643620
They listened to the desire of the audience. Truly they are benevolent.
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>>92643570
I guarantee you someone on the team thought of this but gendy shat over him because WE NEED WAIFU ANIME YING YANG SYMBOLISM
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>>92643620
Well duh. If she continued on living a part of Aku would always survive. Imagine what their children would be like. Sure they might be good, but one would eventually turn evil.
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>>92643644
Or maybe he murder-rapes them all until he finally poofs out of existence along with everyone else.
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>>92643634
>TLoU the pinnacle of vidya writing
Good Lord. How 4chan has fallen. Hold me anon.
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>>92643652
He attacked him the same way his dad did, except for some reason this time he blew up.

Somehow.

It may have been the power of Genndy pulling feces out of his ass and calling it writing.
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>>92643652
>How the fuck did Jack kill Aku anyway
>before the final blow was struck
That's how.
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>>92643603
But that's what's so fucking annoying? Why did Jack and Ashi just bail during the final fight? Jack could easily have fucked up Aku's shit right there and saved everyone. There was no rush. No time limit. He could have had the opportunity to say goodbye to everyone.

Instead it was just "oh you have Aku's powers alright back to the past we go boom done"

It was fucking stupid.
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>>92643631
>All Jack had to do was locate Aku's lair then fuck him up
He did once. He snuck into the Pit of Hate disguised as a guard and then prepared to assassinate Aku until he saw the moth kids.
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>>92643652
People like the scotsman would still be born in a different timeline. Ashi will live on in another timeline. Maybe not in the same body or under the same name bht they Still will exist. Just in a different form.
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>>92643716
Those damn dirty moth kids.
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>>92643634
>In reality Aku has won and we have no Samurai to set things straight
>Aku caused the ending to suck and for Ashi to die at the altar as a final fuck you to the FOOLISH SAMURAI
I believe it.
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>>92643631
>Because Jack never fights him in an enclosed area except his lair. All Jack had to do was locate Aku's lair then fuck him up.
Then Aku turns into, what, 30 birds and flys in different directions? Or he just fucking teleports cause apparently he can just do that shit (but he hardly uses that apparently, except to suddenly show up and fuck with Jack)

Honestly, unless they were literally in a 10 ft by 10 ft box with no exits, Aku's pretty OP
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>>92643716
>Then prepared to assassinate Aku until he saw the moth kids.
Holy plot induced stupidity
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>>92643720
Maybe you're right. I guess we just spent all this time arguing in this thread over nothing.
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>>92643648
It didn't have to be well-explained, it just had to be satisfying. But because it wasn't, people are now picking it apart.
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>>92643743
Aku doesnt teleport you retard he just moves really fucking fast.
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>>92643713
>Why did Jack and Ashi just bail during the final fight?
Why would they stay?
So many series have the protagonists fight a meaningless fight when they could just bail and fix everything in a second without the extra hassle.
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>>92643409
All those people exist, except the Aku government ENCOURAGES their behavior!

>government official assigned a mass killer a village to massacre
>factory worker gets to enslave children to be feral slaves
>evil scientist paid to make beetle bots

God you people are stupid.
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>>92643648
Its not explaining shit. Just show us what the new future looks like and if old friends are now living happier lives. That's it.
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>>92643708
>before the final blow was struck
But Jack hit him like 10 more times. Why the fuck couldn't they just have Jack slash at Aku until there was literally nothing left? Goddammit Genndy, even the way you killed the main villain was underwhelming and confusing.
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SAMURAI
DROP.
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>>92643652
>Except we never see it

That doesn't mean it didn't happen.

>and Ashi is erased from existence

Because she was the only one whose existence explicitly depended on Aku existing. We don't know about that of any of the other people helping Jack.
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>>92643782
>he just moves really fucking fast.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7N67hn0TlA
Right in the first 15 seconds.
H-HE'S FAST
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>>92643713
>Why did Jack and Ashi just bail during the final fight?
Ashi made a portal and pulled Jack in. He didn't do anything himself.

Also because 22 FUCKING MINUTES ARE YOU SERIOUS GENNDY
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>>92643713
>Jack could easily have fucked up Aku's shit right there and saved everyone.

Save who? Most of them were dead.
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>>92643648
well we thought it be more like the first 3 episodes and we get Jack being awesome and kill a Aku and have some basic epilogue that either shows happy future where they all existed or bittersweet it was all removed but for the world to have a better future.
What we got was some rushed slog because Genndy wanted Jack to be an anime hero getting naive bad guy's daughter as his fuck toy.
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>>92643829
>mfw that ladybug at the end didn't say
>I'll be back Samurai, you'll see
Feels conflicting man
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>>92643785
Because all of their friends were being slaughtered in front of them. Instead they just don't fucking care which REALLY goes against Jack's character.
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>>92643720
>>92643772
Gee, it's almost like the finale failed to explain one of the most important things: what happened to the people living in the future. The only hint we got was Ashi disappearing.
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>>92643829
Hes so fast anon.
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>>92643825
>That doesn't mean it didn't happen
It means that it may or may not have happened and we're basically in the same place as where we started. As far as the future is concerned, it's like season 5 never happened.

That is an objective failure.
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>>92643902
And that one at the end where he turns into the tiny decaying bat that flies away at unimaginably slow speeds, yet still gets away. Now that was amazing.
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>>92643428
This kind of behavior (alterating future, exchanging lives) is usually seen in fiction as playing god and is considered outright evil, even it the person doing it claims he is doing it to make the world better.
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>>92643812
I think gendy just underestimated how much anyone cared about the future characters. They were good for fanservice this season but besides the Scotsman they were just one note, one episode characters.
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>>92643870
>Instead they just don't fucking care which REALLY goes against Jack's character.
You say that but they were all there to ensure Jack's victory because he assisted them. It was returning the favour and he finally accepted.

Unfortunately that couldn't be conveyed properly because 10 episodes.
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>>92643825
>We don't know about that of any of the other people helping Jack
Would the Scotsman have met his wife if Aku hadn't destroyed everything and made them live isolated in the highlands?
Would the archaeologist dogs ever evolved to become sapient if Aku never existed?
Repeat ad infinitum for every character.
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>>92643656
Lold
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>>92643931
He really should've realized how much people loved those guys. S5E6 made me think he understood that.
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>>92643856
Many died, but most were still alive. I don't think a single scotsdaughter died.
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>>92643856
If they were all dead it would have justified Jack going to the past instead of fighting Aku in the future first. But most were alive. All of the Scotsman's daughters were fine.
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>>92643928
>and is considered outright evil,
When has it ever been considered evil when not done by an evil person?
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>>92643952
of course they wouldt you stupid retart stop being such a salty little bitch about this

you fags make no fucking sense, it was a amazing ending, stop fucking whining, geez
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Its really weird how a batshit insane religion based on worshipping Aku was the dominant on on earth.
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>>92643931
They were the people we knew from the first four seasons, of course they were important. Holy shit Genndy.
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>>92643952
>Would the Scotsman have met his wife if Aku hadn't destroyed everything and made them live isolated in the highlands?

Maybe.

>Would the archaeologist dogs ever evolved to become sapient if Aku never existed?

Maybe

>Repeat ad infinitum for every character.

And repeat "Maybe" ad infinitum
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>>92643996
I'm asking questions we didn't get answers to and you're being an autistic crybaby because I'm using my brain instead of just accepting this pig slop.
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>>92643952
They're Scots. They want to cut themselves off in real life dude.
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>>92643996
>stop fucking whining, geez
This is just /co/ being /co/. Nothing to see here.
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>>92643983
>>92643982
>scotsdaughters were fine

Oh well shit yeah, fuck everyone else.
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>>92643716
Oh no! Not the moth kids!

>he erases them anyway

Jesus Christ
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>>92644044
I wish real life scots were as cool as the Scotsman and his clan... What commie pussies we've become.
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>>92644013
>knew
I think that might be laying it on a bit strong, the only character we really knew was Scotsman. They were one note characters from a 5 season long, mostly episodic show.
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>>92644051
agreed all these fucking babies whining cause their gay waifu died lel
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>>92644061
He did the same thing with those xiaolin monks too and some other shits I forgot.
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>>92643482
>and directly intervening in mortal battles with magic lasers

So, Ra when he fried the minions of Set?
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>>92643995
You that actions define if you are evil, right? By the very definition of it, a good person will never try to do so.
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>>92643982
Look how easy it is to fix
>everyone dies in Aku's black rain including all of the Scotsman's daughters
>only he's unscathed because he's a ghost and therefore intangible
>before entering the portal Jack looks back on him
>he just looks sadly back at Jack
>pan to the corpses of everyone strewn across the battlefield while Aku laughs
>"Aye, ya better get goin' laddie. There's nothing left for ya here."
>Jack enters the portal and gets back to the past
>>92639768 happens

There, I just fixed Jack's moral dilemma of staying in the future to help his friends defeat Aku before going back to kill him for good.
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>>92644061
>Oh no! Not the monks!
>erases them anyway

>Oh no! Not the blind archers!
>erases them anyway

>Oh no! Not Ashi!
>erases her anyway
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>>92644018
And maybe isn't good enough. Before season 5 happened maybe is what we already had.
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>>92644061
No they probably still will exist since Aku has nothing to do with their existence at all, the Imakandi also still exist as well. Only the earthlings are erased.
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>>92644109
Set was his natural foe and his minions were far more dangerous and chaotic than Aku. Unlike Aku, they would've just killed everything on the planet until there was nothing left and then move on to other worlds. Aku can barely manage earth by himself.
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>>92644109
>so when a god interfered with the minions of another of another god
Oh I'm so sorry, I didn't realise you're underage AND mentally retarded, I'll stop teasing you.
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>>92644114
No you didn't because.

>Muh enslaved tortured citizens wouldn't want to cease existing
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>>92644061
>Jack cares for the people of the future so much that he's willing to fail his quest repeatedly to keep them from dying
>erases them all from existence
Jesus Christ. I'm not saying he shouldn't have got back to the past, but goddamn does he look OOC now.
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>>92644152
Imakandi are pretty much unaffected. But the moth kids survived because Jack helped them. Without him, they'll still crash on Earth and they might end up captured by the government, assuming of course the Powerpuff Girls save them.
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>>92643807
All that shit is encouraged today too and you don't give a fuck.
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>>92644110
You realise that doesn't answer the question, right?
Changing the past isn't an inherently good or bad thing.

Also if a villain changes the past and you go to fix it does that make you a villain to the future you left or does it make you a hero for stopping the villain?
Do you see how ridiculous your reasoning is?
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>>92643928
You are so fucking dumb.

AKU altered the future the moment he sent Jack forward in time, changing all of human history, so Jack killing past Aku was doing the good thing and restored the timeline to the correct way it was suppose to run. That future we saw for 5 seasons was the alternate reality that should have never existed.

So guess what, you are the evil person wanting the altered future to still happen in some way, destroying all those lived Aku sent into non existence when he threw Jack out of time.

Shit man your life must be hell being this stupid.
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>>92644181
Then to fix that I'd just make it so that everyone in the future are the same, except they're living happy Aku-less lives and the only reason Ashi disappeared is because her existence is directly tied to Aku, as in Aku is her father. Scotsman and his daughters are tending sheep, dogs are uncovering an ancient bone or some shit, Da Samoorai opened a nightclub or something. Just anything to make it seem like Jack didn't just retcon all of his friends out of existence.
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>>92644205
>and you don't give a fuck
Especially if he's a swede.
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I wonder if Genndy realized murdering Chinkerbelle would upset so many people.

Ya'll some immature little fucking kids I guess. Bittersweet is best, happy endings are for fucking children.
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>>92644150
>And maybe isn't good enough

For you

>>92644156
That's a lot of assumptions you're making to justify their inaction.

>>92644173
Didn't realize Aku was a mortal.
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>>92644152
Oh, okay. So just most people are dead. Jesus, this is the ME3 ending where all the relays explode all over again.
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>>92644245
I'd pay for this to be made.
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>>92644234
Tell that to all the people who were doing relatively fine in the Aku-verse.
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>>92644271
>Chinkerbelle
dafuq did you just call the Scotsman, you miserable reprobate?
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>>92644184
He didn't know about the consequences you stupid cunt. Hence why he's shocked Ashi disappeared.
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>>92643996
Wow. Pastfags are fucking brainlets.
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>>92644286
For most of us, actually. For everyone who's not a retard. For people who actually cared about this series growing up.
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>>92644310
oh yes all the billions of people being tortured and raped daily were just fine

fuck off

you realize by erasing the future, Jack made sure your precious waifu bitch never got dipped in ashes and beaten, right?
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>>92643928
>Flash is now evil for wanting to save his mother from Thawne
>Thawne is now a hero for preventing the bad future
Hmm
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>>92644286
>assumptions
The hieroglyphics said just that. They slaughtered and destroyed everything and spread chaos without mercy, you twink.
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>>92643928
>This kind of behavior (alterating future, exchanging lives) is usually seen in fiction as playing god and is considered outright evil
Right that's what Aku did. Alternating future, and exchanged their lives. It's in the opening of all season 1-4. That was why Jack had to get to the past, to correct the time alterations Aku did, sending him to the future.
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>>92644287
Gotta love the ME3 endings

>We just made everyone the borg and utopia has been attained
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>>92644319
Then Jack should commit Sudoku upon realizing just exactly his little stunt fucking means for everyone he's encountered and befriended over the last 50 years.
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>>92644310
>hurr fuck the trillions dead and suffering and the mutiple planets destroyed because some isolated societies are temporarily free from aku
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>>92644310
>Tell that to all the people who were doing relatively fine in the Aku-verse.
you mean all his lords and minions that were killing all the good folk?
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>>92644328
>pastfags

ITS IN THE FUCKING SONG YOU SHIT
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>>92644328
I'm a pastfag but this shit doesn't work unless you address what happens to everyone in the future.

>>92644359
Looks like Jack picked the Destroy ending.
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>>92644286
>Didn't realize Aku was a mortal.
He is, in the sense that he can still be killed, and season 1 implied that there were other things that could harm him, including gems. Why are you on a thread about subject you clearly do not care about?
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>>92644114
This is the logical fix, but even though they had so much gore in the first 3 episodes, they still didn't want aku to become a real threat, just a goofy villain and comic relief. That's why the final battle sucked and all the deaths, besides some robots, happened off screen.

If Jack was obligated to go back to the past because aku fucking killed everyone in the entire world, that would make more sense.
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>>92644346
Nigger, I don't care about Ashi. I HATE Ashi. I cared about all of the people we met over the first four seasons. And they're all gone now. Every good deed Jack has never done is completely pointless because it was all just gonna be erased anyway.

And I'd rather be beaten and dipped in hot coals than be erased from existence.
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>>92644114
Hmm, I actually like this a lot.
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>>92644400
>Looks like Jack picked the Destroy ending.
>Not Lawful
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>>92644271
>What we got
>Bittersweet
>B-but jack smiled once...

Shit was depressing and bleak as fuck. Genndy forgot the sweet. Everyone is dead. Jack will live on alone, maybe forever, the world wont get buttfucked by aku but there isnt any assurance it wont go to shit because of humans themselves (which usually happen).
I guess if you are really nature activist you might have liked it because now there are more trees.
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>>92644354
>undo the future that is Aku
Hey, anon, do you know what happens when you click "undo" in the options menu?
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>>92644351
>They slaughtered and destroyed everything and spread chaos without mercy, you twink.

Just like Aku before he gained sentience by accident and he did multiple times after, and he was already doing it on other planets.

>>92644406
>He is, in the sense that he can still be killed

Just like the gods, otherwise their battle with the being that Aku was born from wouldn't have been a threat to them.
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>>92644346
Great, its this faggot again.

Also, seems like everyone Jack helped did fine and were never bothered by Aku again after he intervened. So yeah, nice post, faggot.

>>92644328
Obviously.
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>>92644310
>millions killed
>thousands of worlds destroyed and left in ruin
>all that suffering and torture

Even as bait this is just pathetic
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>>92644368
>>92644382
Dying in the Aku-verse and then going to heaven is better than having your soul deleted from reality.
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>>92644429
And I'd rather get erased if it meant that a immortal, unstoppable abomination never reigned supreme for ages and devastated countless worlds. But hey, priorities.
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>>92644429
>And I'd rather be beaten and dipped in hot coals than be erased from existence.

of course you would, you exist, you cant talk from the perspective of nonexistent people. for all we know your precious bitchfu ashi is much happier now
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>>92644457
That future was never the correct timeline. It was brought up a few times in the show, you know this if you watch it.
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>>92644181
Afterlife isn't constrained by time I think, could just be my headcanon tho
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>>92644444
I honestly thought that's what Genndy was going for, but nope. Only some robots died and a few people were knocked off their birds. Death was only implied.
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>>92644479
>I'm gonna keep grasping at this straw about how a handful of people getting a good afterlife outweighs the hell of billions that unjustly suffered and died
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>>92638662
It's.
A.
Cartoon.
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>>92644359
>>92644287
Someone talking about Samurai Effect 3?
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>>92644455
>>92644465
>Everyone is dead
Death implies an afterlife. They didn't exist. They don't even get a chance to die.
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>>92644465

Deleting infinite people from existing at all is far more evil than giving a finite amount of people happier lives, especially when the finite amount go to heaven when they die
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>>92644495
>you exist,
In constant pain, torment and poverty with aliens and monsters attacking daily
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>>92644199
Oh fuck I forgot this was the same universe as the power puff girls

SHIT DID JACK ERASE THAT UNIVERSE TOO?
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>>92644524
>a handful of people
Its literally everyone who is not an asshole.
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>>92644346
>>92644382
semper stupidity

>>92644461
>and he was already doing it on other planets.
He stole water and gems from some planets only mentioned like 2 times during the series and even the architect dogs implied that Aku was also legally trading when he could. He wasn't some machine of random destruction out to destroy all life. He's just a jerk for the sake of being a jerk, while Set's minions literally desired the end of all life. Its like you're looking for random reasons to argue at this point and show how little you actually know about the show.
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>>92644524
>handful
It doesn't just apply to people Jack met in person you unfathomably stupid asshole.
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>>92644524
>handful get good afterlife
If everyone who died went to some form of afterlife, then Jack undoing the future undoes that too. Trillions are sacrificed for trillions. I'm not surprised most of /co/ are too stupid to think of these things.
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>>92644465
>thousands of worlds
>pulling random statistics out of his ass again
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>>92644494
Nah. Me existing is the most important thing because me not existing means the world, from my perspective, ceases to exist as well.

>>92644495
>ashi is much happier now
She doesn't exist. She can't answer that question. Who are we talking about now?
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>>92644494
Erasing even a single life from existence in order to save trillions upon trillions of people from a horrific life is extremely unethical. All those people who suffer go to an afterlife, which lasts forever. Their suffering is finite. The empty blackness of pure void is not.
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>>92644550
>Deleting infinite people from existing at all is far more evil
You're talking about people who were constantly being terrorized by demons and mechanical monstrosities on a daily basis in a future that wasn't meant to happen.
Also consider how many more people outright died between Jack being sent into the future and him arriving there.
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>>92644541
>They don't even get a chance to die.
They were never suppose to. You stupidly open that door here
>>92643928
>This kind of behavior (alterating future, exchanging lives) is usually seen in fiction as playing god and is considered outright evil

Not understanding (because you are stupid) that means that Aku's future is wrong and a perversion of the original timeline.

By the rules you established, nonexistence of that future is justified and the correct action because it was never suppose to exist.
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>>92644558
No. In the original universe it was clear there weren't any PPG since in PPG's setting there's no Aku, only Him. Which means that the new timeline Jack has made is the PPG timeline.
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>>92644619
Aku is so retarded that he cant even run one fucking planet heck he seems to have issues controlling a fraction of a continent.
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>>92644498
>That future was never the correct timeline
Okay, so just fuck everyone then. Condemn them to nonexistence. Why save anyone then? Why not just accomplish your mission at once, consequences be damned.

>>92644533
>Merge with Aku
>Control Aku
>Destroy Aku
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>>92644234
>THIS WAS THE WAY IT SHOULDVE HAPPENEED REEE PANDER TO ME

Look, aku defeated Jack. He could've just froze him and he thawed out later, shit would've been the same. Going back in time to fix that with le magic eraser is bad storytelling, as exemplified by the ending of the series being unsatisfying diaheria.
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>>92644656
Exactly. Aku is basically an incompetent ruler. He can barely get anything done or even recapture the places Jack has freed from his tyranny.
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>>92644505
It is. Nonexistence means no death. No death means no afterlife. Time may not apply, but the events that led to you ending up there are affected by time.
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>>92644271
Good thing the show was for children then you autist.
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>>92644586
>literally trillions upon trillions of people having their teeth yanked out with pliers, eyes plucked out with knives and kneecaps smashed with heavy objects
>yes this is fine, as long as my waifu is saved!

are you being retarded on purpose?
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>>92644689
Yes his unkillability is probably the only reason anyone listens to him.
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>I would've cut you to ribbons
>not with a Y7 rating you won't
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>>92644660
>Why save anyone then? Why not just accomplish your mission at once, consequences be damned.

whole different argument and not what you were picking a fight over. You are going full teenage school girl here and just throwing out any reason to justify your stance logic or reasoning be damned. Worse for you, you open all these points by stupidly throwing defenses out without thinking what they implicated.

You fuck up.
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>>92644645
what part of infinite are you not understanding?
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>>92644646
>They were never suppose to
>live a shitty Aku-infested life but die and go to heaven to live in peaceful bliss for eternity
>whoops guess not you never existed
>multiply by infinity
Gee, thanks Jack!
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>>92644646
Things that arent supposed to happen still happen every moment. You learn to accept and live with it.
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>>92644707
>literally trillions upon trillions of people having their teeth yanked out with pliers, eyes plucked out with knives and kneecaps smashed with heavy objects
Again, shit that never happened since we know next to nothing about this world other than slavery is legal and a police force does exist.

>my waifu
This thread is about the scotsman retard.
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>>92644394
>ITS IN THE THEME SONG THAT MEANS IT HAS TO HAPPEN FOR SOME ARBITRARY REASON REEEE
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>>92644646
>By the rules you established

You are arguing with more than one person dude.
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>>92644586
>Its like you're looking for random reasons to argue at this point

Look who's talking. The point is he devastated a world so badly that the people had to leave it so they had to pay him tribute. Water is pretty important to a world's ecosystem. It's stupid to think he hadn't done the same racket multiple of times with other species just because he also traded with others. You guys are obsessed with making Aku look harmless just because you like him.
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All this bullshit about just chilling in the afterlife makes me think why would anyone every submit to Aku in the first place? If it's all fine and dandy once you're dead, why not group everyone up and storm Aku's keep, forcing him to kill you for being an annoyance and end your suffering? Seems like that would be preferred option from they way you're all going on about it.
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>>92644671
That's not what happen however. He removed someone from time. Jack wasn't meant to exist in the future hence his immortality there. He had to get back to restore order to the time line. His return undoes that false future. Also nice projection with that green text kid.
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>>92644716
Yep. And he's also apparently lazy to boot since even back in season 4 he refused to do anything himself.
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>>92644728
No, you have to ask these questions because if Jack winning means undoing everything, then why save these people you are later going to delete from existence?

Genndy could have explained this by showing what happened to the future, but no.
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>>92644660
>bitch boy getting upset his waifu died

lel
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>>92644735
The part where you're using it wrong maybe?
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>>92644756
>You learn to accept and live with it.

Except Aku, he can fuck with time and space and you guys will give him a pat on the back for it.
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>>92644671
the ending was perfect, bittersweet is for adults while happy is for children

you and all these fucking faggots are just made because you got emotionaly attached to some whoreslut and a bunch of cartoon characters

grow the fuck up and get laid
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>>92644152
>Aku has nothing to do with their existence at all

Except, you know, he has *everything* to do with their existence.
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>>92644780
>You guys are obsessed with making Aku look harmless just because you like him.
Who the fuck said he's harmless? You're just blowing his tyranny way out of proportion. The guy's a tyrant but with an anarchist-like mindset in that he doesn't care what illegal shit you do as long as it doesn't fuck with him or his inventors.
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>>92644756
>Things that arent supposed to happen still happen every moment.
how do you know they weren't suppose to happen? Perhaps there is order in all things but you can't see it. What if it was preordain for that future to never happen? To go into the nonexisting void? because that's what happen. God Genndy wrote it so for them.
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>>92644671
the whole fucking show was made with jack's purpose being to go back to the past and prevent aku from destroying everything
everyone in the future before jack killed aku in the past shall eventually exist in the new future, except they would most likely have normal lives
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>>92644782
Because despite the existence of an afterlife people are still compelled to live. Nobody wants to die, it just happens. It's like if we suddenly discovered the existence of heaven - why wouldn't everyone commit suicide? This is why Christianity makes it a sin to kill yourself.
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>>92644494
You would take that back if you knew that afterlife was canon in your universe you twat.

If you really would consensually give all that away, then maybe you should be the hero instead of Jack, because Jack is sure shitting the hero role up.
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>>92644802
How can you be this stupid? Have you even read the name of the thread? People are pissed that ALL of Jack's future allies were basically fucked. How hard is that to get through your thick nigger skull?
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>>92644558
No, the proper time line is:
>Townsville without the PPG existed but ended up destroyed by aku.
>Jack undoes time
>A similar world without aku exists
>He is ageless
>With time master nearly all skills, knowledges and sciences
>Many years later he attempts his hand in alchemy and end up creating superpowered people to defend the world.
>Whatever Chemical X was, it was related to Ashi
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>>92644800
>Genndy could have explained this

He did. Pay attention to that ending.
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>>92644792
You realise knowing that your goal is to correct the timeline doesn't just destroy your conscience, right?
Why do you think Jack had a mini freak out after killing the girls?
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>>92644765
aku is evil, while he rules everyone suffers constantly. its not a hard concept to understand you futurefag dipshit

>i-i-im not mad about ashi!

get laid you fat piece of shit
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Would you rather
>live a shitty life under the heel of a despot then die and go to an afterlife of eternal peace and happiness
OR
>forfeit your existence for some people you will never know thousands of years ago even though they're enjoying the same peaceful bliss now as you
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>>92644692
So did lava monster get ripped out of Valhalla?

Lmao
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>>92644841
Aku we can handle by simply killing him in the future. Undoing reality isnt necessary
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>>92644848
No not really, they crash land on earth due to alien politics not Aku.
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>>92644857
>Aku's immortal empire that destroyed numerous worlds and had a whole episode showing the evil in it isn't that bad

God you faggots are desperate.
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>>92644444
Quints of destiny
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>>92644894
HOLY FUCKING SHIT A LADYBUG

THAT ANSWERS EVERYTHING

NOT

Unless you seriously think the ladybug represents Ashi's reincarnated soul (which is still pretty shitty if you ask me) and not the existence of a world she would have loved because nature is allowed to flourish without the evil of Aku?
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>>92644897
non issue to the core point, you are just trying to appeal to emotion now since you fuck everything up so badly.
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>>92644891
Should we make a thread about PPG's connection to SJ?

>>92644908
>get laid you fat piece of shit
Pulling at straws now are we? You're the one making baseless assumptions despite that every poster here seems to be gay for the Scotsman. Stop being so damn autistic.
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>>92644057
Do you think there's time? I'll start with the Raver chicks, you can have the Sea Monkeys.
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>>92644894
Oh boy getting reincarnated as something that can't even think for itself sure is fun.

Thanks, Gods.
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>>92644952
you haven't watch the season have you?
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>>92644921
He and everyone else. All the people who died in the aku arrow shower were probably enjoying the first few moments of happiness in heaven when Ashi opened the portal and they got ripped into nothingness.
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>>92644950
>that destroyed numerous worlds
'Shit that never happened' the post.
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>>92644897
>You realise knowing that your goal is to correct the timeline doesn't just destroy your conscience, right?
Probably because Jack is some rice-picker from feudal Japanland and doesn't know what the implications of erasing an entire timeline are.
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>>92644961
Your entire point revolves around Jack being entirely heartless you dumbass.
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>>92644465
>OY VEY! how DARE you say the past sucked? Do you forget the SIX GORILLION WORLDS THAT DIED BECAUSE OF AKU!!

It was another Shoah!!!
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>>92644911
>implying someone so selfish as to let an immortal tyrant rule so they can keep existing would get a good afterlife
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>>92644911
>futurefags still asshurt over asshi
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Hey guys, do you remember when Jack was ready to commit suicide over the guilt of believing he'd let those blue furry children die?

Well then no longer exist thanks to Jack.
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>All this fucking heaven and afterlife talk.
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>>92644857
>Who the fuck said he's harmless?
>He's just a jerk for the sake of being a jerk

>You're just blowing his tyranny way out of proportion.

Exactly how am I blowing it out of proportion? It's literally what he did.

>>92644931
>Aku we can handle by simply killing him in the future.

Which is why it happened during thousands of years with his reign and the 50 years Jack was stuck in the future. He just wasn't trying hard enough.

>>92645003
>Aku only destroyed that one world, honest!
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>>92644995
I did, and you didn't. Proof being that Jack is sitting under the same tree that was seen in episode 5, and Ashi's love of nature is connected to the ladybug. It's to show that the world is finally free of Aku, and that Ashi would have loved that world, and Jack is satisfied with her sacrifice to achieve it.
>>
I really, really wish Genndy had taken one more minute to just show what actually happened to Ashi and everyone from the future. Now we don't know and have endless 24/7 threads full of shitflinging about things we do not know.

Is the ladybug a sign of her still existing in some form, possibly in the afterlife, or merely a reminder of her to Jack?
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>>92645030
>thread title
>tfw Scotsman is gone
How hard is it to read?

>>92645037
Autistic pastfags won't care.
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>>92645007
that's still appealing to emotion. You lost all your ground and are now beating furiously that it's wrong because what it should make Jack "feel" rather than if it was right.
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>>92644096
You have to be 18 to post here, Anon.
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>>92644921
Him and everyone else. So Jack freeing him so he can go be with his ancestors is... ENTIRELY POINTLESS. It never happened.

Holy shit. Sudoku Jack was right. He should have just killed himself to be with his ancestors.
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>>92645051
>still doesn't post proof of the thousands of worlds destroyed
Again, pulling shit out of your ass.
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>>92644707
point to where this happened on the show
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>>92645000
>and they got ripped into nothingness.
They aren't Ashi anon.
Ashi was tied directly to Aku, she was half Aku.
No Aku no Ashi.

Everyone else was tertiary at best and will end up in a different body in a peaceful futures.
In other words, its less getting "ripped into nothingness" but being dumped into a new life.
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>>92645071
>WAAAAA MUH WAIFU WAAAAAH

fuck off futurefag, he went back to the past thats ALL that matters
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>>92644950
Actually the were worlds embroiled in their own wars outside of Aku's grasp. Like the world the moth kids came from.
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>>92645037
He morn at the end saw the ladybug and remember what he said to Ashi and moved on.

Stay mad
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>>92645047
Something wrong, reddit?
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>>92645003
Eat a dick faggot

https://youtu.be/_rJ8OhLSrD0
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>>92645101
>if it isnt shown right in my face it didnt happen DURR DA HURR
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>>92645047
Blame the show for showing that when people in this world die they go to some kind of afterlife. An afterlife that is now much more empty now thanks to Jack.
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>>92645074
>that's still appealing to emotion
That's because Jack isn't heartless you jackass and their make that a point through the entire series where he sacrifices many different chances just to save people.

What else are you expecting? Because there's no other answer.
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>>92645121
How is the Scotsman a waifu? How can you be this retarded mud kid?
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>>92644222
>if a villain changes the past

Who did that?
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>>92645102
That implies souls exist before birth and are fated to be born no matter the body they end up. Even ashi would be able to get a full human body in this idealized future, because her soul is good and not related to aku.

I would love it, and want to believe it, but we were shown NOTHING that supports it.
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>>92644843
>the ending was perfect

How? There are tons of imperfections in it and loose ends.

Checkmate faggot. Go jump off a cliff.
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>>92645069
We'll never know. Thanks Genndy.
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>>92644286
He is the mortal remnant of an actual god.
Or are you such a shitposting ignorant retard that you forgot about/never knew about the primal evil?
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>>92645185
cry all you want, deny all you want but you and every other futurefuck here knows you are all asshurt because Ashi is dead
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>>92645151
>thousands of world
>posts one world
Sure thing faggot.
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>>92645102
Maybe, maybe not. We just don't know.
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>>92644859
No, the purpose of the show was so that Jack could defeat aku. Going back in time is not necessary to do that.
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>>92645199
name one

just one
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>>92645198
We weren't shown proof that everyone will never exist either, but here we are.
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>>92645213
>thread literally bitching about how much they hate Ashi for killing the future
>y-you guys love Ashi! Admit it!
That's a nice strawman you got there kiddo.
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>>92645182
>where he sacrifices many different chances just to save people
People that may no longer exist.

That's the problem.
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>>92645215
>hundreds of alien types on Earth
>"hurr Aku only pillaged one water planet and then stopped forever!"

Delusional retard
>>
FUTUREFAGS FUCK OFF

FUCK ASHI FUCK ASHI FUCK ASHI
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>>92645182
you don't understand what "appealing to emotion" is do you?
>>
So I can picture the Spartan King lying on his deathbed (even though he looked the same age in the final episode despite it being 50 years in the future) telling the story of Jack's exploits, content with all he's accomplished in life, and how he's passed down the kingdom to his son, and then... nothing. Nonexistence.

Thank you Jack.
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>>92645235
>Gotta get back, back to the past Samurai Jack
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>>92645215
>All those alien races that 'just so happen' to make earth home
>After its implied Aku is fine with destroying worlds to get more followers
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>you've never killed a real person before! FLESH AND BLOOD!

Man it's good that Jack went through multiple crisises about futurepeoples deaths, like the sisters and the kids, just to erase them later without literally a single god damned thought.
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>>92645287
>still only posts one world
>archeologist dog says aku opened earth's doors to undesirables
Gee whiz mister, you sure are mad.
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>>92645235
>No, the purpose of the show was so that Jack could defeat aku
Are you being intentionally retarded?
Through every season he's looking for a way home.
In the 50 years before season 5 he falls into despair because Aku destroyed every time portal
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>>92645198
>YOU ARE GOOD ASHI
>YOUR SOUL IS GOOD
>YOU ARE YOUR OWN PERSON
>YOU ARE NOT YOUR FATHER

>oops I guess you were because you no longer exist
>and I'm still a virgin
>WATCHA
>>
>People mad about this.
>Not mad that the show didn't end with one last "WATCHAAAA"
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>>92645255
Ashi's last words are fucking idiotic exposition.
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>everyone this emotionally invested in fictional characters "not existing"
Faggots, all of you.
>>
>nuts and bolts
So whose dumb idea was it to make it that Jack never killed a human in 50 fucking years?
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>>92644841
That's because he's the evil antagonist you fucking retard
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>>92645209
But the primal evil was killed by the deities, so by your logic it wasn't a god.
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>>92645368
>the palace will never echo with the sound of "DIE SAMURAI SCUM" as Ashi rides Jack viciously
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>>92645339
If there's an epilogue it should be about Jack killing himself after realizing what he's done. Then he leaves some insane suicide note to his parents about how he killed the future and they can't understand it because they're just fucking feudal Japan nobles and then life goes on until they get nuked twice then anime happens.
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>>92645382
/co/ is even gayer and faggier than /lgbt/ and /b/ combined. We didn't become the worst board for nothing.
>>
We make /int/ look like the most charming people on earth.
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>>92645255
Jacks parents immediately return to their youth upon jacks return, as well as all of his mentors. They haven't aged a fucking bit.

That's right off the top of my head. Defend that perfection you gendy masturbator.
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>>92645365
And you're an obtuse dumbass looking for (you)s. Done with this, enjoy wasting time bitching that a show ended with the goal the protagonist wanted to reach.
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>>92645475
The african chief, the sultan/whatever and Jack's father were just unforgivable. They should be rusty and hunched old weaklings.
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>BWAHAHAHA
>FOOLISH SAMURAI
>BY UNDOING THE FUTURE THAT IS AKU YOU HAVE UNDONE THE FUTURE THAT IS YOUR FRIENDS
>THEY MAY HAVE SUFFERED UNDER MY TYRANNY BUT AT LEAST IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A LIFE LIVED
>EVEN AFTER THEIR DEATHS THEY WOULD HAVE GONE TO A PLACE WHERE MY EVIL CANNOT FOLLOW
>BUT THANKS TO YOU THEY NO LONGER EXIST
>THEIR STRUGGLES
>THEIR TRIUMPHS
>THEIR HAPPINESS
>ALL OF IT... GONE
>YOU ARE CRUELER THAN I COULD HAVE POSSIBLY IMAGINED FOOLISH SAMURAI
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>>92645475
Aku's reign at the start was only a few years and that "age" was them being haggard. I was pissed at first to till it hit me they rebuilt cities and arranged a marriage which could take years back then.
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>>92645328
Damn you're right... Jack shouldn't have these thoughts because the theme music said that's his quest... Dang you sure shut me down..,
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>>92645307
I don't think you understand what's happening here.
The answer you're looking for is that Jack has emotions. Regardless of if his goal was to fix the timeline which would subsequently erase them as a person he couldn't leave them to die or stay cursed. We see it throughout the entire series.

It's a part of his character.
Its also worth noting that he completely gave up the notion of returning to the past until Ashi dragged him back.
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