Ultimates2 #100 coming in August

>mixing Ultimates numbers with that shit
How you dare Marvel?

This would be like using Shazam numbers to print Superman #1000. Also why would you want the comics with gay vampire nerd Hulk or Tony being forced to murder his Gary Stu chad brother in your legacy?

>>92630213
Because big numbers are fucking cool.

>>92630213
>Also why would you want the comics with gay vampire nerd Hulk or Tony being forced to murder his Gary Stu chad brother in your legacy?

Because now they can say that the yass queen is leading a team with a legacy of over 100 issues.

>>92630213
Oh, and I forgot the Ultimates issue where Hank used his ants to """assault""" a naked Janet he'd just tried to murder with bug spray. Probably all sorts of other dumb shit, too. I bet the incest was in one of those titles.

Hell yeah

>>92630213

Millar's Ultimates is great

>>92630113
is there an official confirmation or is it just Rich riching?

>>92630113
Lmao this is pathetic

lol why not
what's Thunderbolts total?

>>92630438
It's got to be around 200, right?

>>92630467
I think, maybe it gets relaunched with legacy numbering (and a decent writer)?

>>92630467
when rulkbolts ended that was #207
how many issues was buckybolts? ten?

>>92630113

Reminds me of when F4 ended and Future Foundation took its place while Johnny was thought to be dead. Then when they brought back F4 they continued FF and used the issues to count towards both ongoings.

That was cheating, this is downright wrong.

>>92630438

200 or 250 depending on whether you count Rulkbolts and the annuals.

>>92630507
yeah,last one was the 20th anniversary issue too lol

>>92630507

If you count the Dark Avengers relaunch of Parkerbolts it's closer to 250.

>>92630213
This. Millar's Ultimates has nothing to do with the current book.

>>92630351

It was. The assault was in vol.1, issue #6. The outright incest, vol.3.

>>92630406

Yes. Yes, it is.

>>92630467

213, by my reckoning.

>>92630438
Vol 1. 174
Vol 2. 32
Vol 3. 12
Avengers/Thunderbolts 6

They can round it by adding Dark Avengers, the annuals, one-shots and minis

>>92630113
>However you add it up

Marvel doesn't even care. Why don't they just alternate and make every book a #1 or #100?

They don't care. Scalpers don't care. They don't have any fans left to care.

>>92630213
Shit, it's like using Detective Comics numbers to add up Batman numbers to make Batman #2000.

>>92630507
>>92630646

Thunderbolts Vol 1 went up to 174. Then was renamed Dark Avengers from 175 till 190. So using 190 as a starting point and assuming they count Bendis' Dark Avengers series...

+ 3 Thunderbolts Annuals
+ 16 issue Bendis Dark Avengers + 1 Annual
+ 32 issue Daniel Way Thunderbolts + 1 Annual
+ 12 issue Jim Zub Thunderbolts

190 + 3 + 16 + 1 + 32 + 1 + 13 = 256 issues.

If they really reach they could get close to 300.

Counting miniseries (including Dark Avengers related miniseries) and one-shots then:

+ 6 issue Avengers/Thunderbolts
+ 4 issue Thunderbolts Presents: Zemo
+ 3 Thunderbolts: Secret Invasion One-Shots
+ 5 Issue Penance: Relentless

And the Dark Avengers miniseries:
+ 3 Issue Dark Avengers : Ares
+ 5 Issue Dark Reign: Hawkeye
+ 4 issue Dark Reign: The Sinister Spider-Man

256 + 6 + 4 + 3 + 5 + 3 + 5 + 4 = 286

>>92630113
>People didn't like all of our new #1s
>Let's see how they like our #100s
I don't even have words.

why though?
are people actually more likely to pick up a #234 over a #4?

>>92630824
Action Comics #1000 and Detective Comics #1000

>>92630113
And yet Marvel already missed the chance to do Thor 700. Idiots.

>>92630907
Actually, if my math is correct issue 700 would be in September.
When would Captain America 700 fall on?

>>92630806
I think they will settle for 250 and not include Bendis' Dark Avengers.

>>92630907
>>92630933
I'm super confused how they would do characters with lots of minis/one-shots
what if they did a legacy ASM, they'd should include all the ancillary clones' series and all the minis/one-shots that could be considered canon

>>92630824
They figured that they've caused such diminishing returns on the relaunches that relaunching Ultimates^2 as Ultimates^3 wouldn't have increased sales. So they're hedging their bets that Ultimates^2 #100 would cause a higher increase in sales than Ultimates^3 #1.

>>92630113
Wait, is it still going to be Ultimates2? Because if they're using legacy numbering then it should go back to just being called The Ultimates.

>>92631152
For ASM, they should just count regular issues of ASM and Superior Spider-Man.

>>92631271
>acknowledging Superior
Lmao haha, no.

>>92631152
>>92631271
Well let's see.
>Amazing Spider-man 1-700
>Amazing Spider-man 1-18
>Amazing Spider-man 1-30 (up to July solicitations)
So if you only count "Amazing Spider-man" then that gets you to 748. If you count Superior Spider-man, since that was essentially just a renamed Amazing Spider-man, then that's another 33 issues which puts you at 781.

At that point, it's pretty trivial getting to 800. Throw in the 5 .1 issues of ASM that make up learning to crawl and you've got 786. They could double-ship ASM to get the remaining issue numbers in time for Legacy, plus count things like the Generations one-shot, Clone Conspiracy, or the Secret Wars RYV mini to speed things along as need be.

Alternatively, they could just ASM v1, 2 and 3 without counting Superior and any of the ancillary shit, which would get them an easy 750.

So basically, it's ASM #750 if they go the strictly ASM route. It's ASM #800 if they want to fudge the numbers.

>>92631309
How much is Dan Slott gonna brag about having written ASM 600, 700 AND 800.

>>92631326
He also wrote Amazing Spider-man #1 and Amazing Spider-man #1.

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>>92630113
This is frankly such a dishonest move, but at least I'll be thankful if the Ultimates plot doesn't get too awfully truncated

>>92631391
Hey, I expected Ultimates to just get cancelled and Eternity War to be hurriedly finished in an unsatisfying wrap-up issue, so I'll take this instead. They wouldn't be renumbering if they were just going to cancel it after a couple issues.

Is there any Marvel book that can be fudged to get to #1000 before Action Comics next year?

>>92631463
Nope, highest we can get is Thor at 700 and ASM at 800 next year.

>>92631309
why doesn't McFarlane's Spider-Man count? it transitioned into Peter Parker: Spider-Man so it couldn't be grandfathered into Miles' title if they decided to legacy that right?

>>92630113
>All this emphasis on renumbering
>Not one thing about replacing most of the current writers

I have great faith in Legacy already, thanks Marlel

>>92631463
Spider-Man if you just throw in Spectacular, Web of, Sensational and McFarlane's
X-Men, somehow

>>92631309
>slott will have written ASM 600, 700, and 800

>>92631629
If we were counting all those wouldn't Spider-Man be well over 1000 by now?

>>92631546
They might be able to do it with Avengers if they combined the different Avengers titles.

>Avengers v1: 407
>Avengers v2: 13
>Avengers v3: 85
>Avengers v4: 36
>Avengers v5: 46
>All-new All-Different Avengers: 15
>Avengers v6: 10 (as of July solicitations)
Gets you 612.

>New Avengers v1: 64
>New Avengers v2: 35
>New Avengers v3: 33
>New Avengers v4: 18
Gets you 150.

>Mighty Avengers v1: 36
>Mighty Avengers v2: 14
>Captain America and the Mighty Avengers: 9
Gets you 59

>Avengers Assemble v1: 25
25, obviously.

>Ultimate Comics: Avengers: 6
>Ultimate Comics: Avengers 2: 6
>Ultimate Comics: Avengers 3: 6
>Ultimate Comics: Ultimate Death of Spider-man: Ultimate Avengers vs. New Ultimates: 6
42.

>Secret Avengers v1: 39
>Secret Avengers v2: 16
>Secret Avengers v3: 15
70.

So all that comes to 958. I'm sure there's some other one-off ongoings or minis they could throw in there to get it to 1000. Of course, this is assuming they would combine all these different titles together which would be some next level bullshit. If they don't count ANAD Avengers they could probably do Avengers #600.

>>92631669
>Marvel releases Spider-man #1000 soon trying to beat DC's Action Comics
>written by Dan Slott

>>92631748
>It costs 20$

>>92631770
>starring Miles

>>92631807
Slott hates Miles
>starring Otto

Does Al Ewing "sales poison"/ "exterminate Portugal" still writing Ultimates?

>>92632464
>"exterminate Portugal"
Wait what?

>>92631721
why not just take all the X-men, New Mutants, X-force, X-Factor, Exalibur and Uncanny Avengers etc, etc and make it 2000

>>92630113
Release date is August 16 — wait for solicitations in several moments

>>92630113
I thought it was a typo when I first saw it. Is Rich serious or is he just fellating himself?

What are the calculations to reach that numbering?

I mean I want Marvel to add those numbers and show us how the hell they come up with that specific number.

>>92633622
They've said they will indicate what issues they're counting.

>>92632488
He got butthurt at Portugal winning Eurovision 2017.

>>92630113
this makes sense only for titles set in the same contiuity.

It makes no sense whatsoever for Ultimates.

>>92634550
>implying this isn't a last-ditch attempt to save that title for cancellation
Do you want to see that title publishing beyond this year?

>>92634572
>for
from*

>>92634572
its numbers aren't THAT low.

>>92634572
SIR NO SIR

>>92633680
Understandable.

>>92633622
They said they were going to release a preview book for Legacy that would include how they came up with the numbers. I mean, they'd have to because they're clearly going to be using non-mainline issues to get rounded numbers.

>>92634592
You should probably check last month's sales if you actually think this.

>>92633680
>>92634693
Don't know about that, but what I heard is that Portugal invited him to some comic convention, and that he got so demanding that they told him to fuck off; instead they invited Chris Claremont.

>>92634724
Huh. See I heard that he was working on a short story for 2000AD, and the artist they lined him up with was Portugese. He proceeded to get all huffy and 2000AD ended up replacing him as the writer with someone else, with the cited reason being "conflicting schedules" but the real reason being that Ewing refused to work with the artist they lined up for him.

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>>92634758
I wonder f the RETARD ALERT guy is Portuguese too?

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AL EWING (W) • TRAVEL FOREMAN (A/C)
VARIANT COVER by MARK BAGLEY
Kirby 100th Anniversary Variant Cover by JACK KIRBY A double-sized issue celebrating ULTIMATES #100!
• Eternity is free – but can even he stand against the might of the First Firmament?
• Or does the embodiment of everything need help...from Outside?
• Featuring the Ultimates and...the Ultimates?
40 PGS./Rated T+ …$4.99

Sauce: http://www.newsarama.com/34594-marvel-comics-august-2017-solicitations.html

>>92635125
>double-sized issue
8 more pages does not make this double-sized Marvel.

>>92635125
Why isn't there a thread for solicitations like there usually is?

>>92635640
Comics Continuum BTFO

So you have to make one yourself using the link above.

>inb4 (You)

>>92635125
>getting help from the Ultimate Ultimates

Those guys are fucking useless.

>>92635640
August solicits are so boring that I'm not even bothering.
>Moon Girl in Venom
STOP MARVEL

>>92635231
Maybe it's ad free!

It's not.

>>92633064
don't give them any ideas

>>92630822
>>92630689
>>92630113
I'm dying, I can't stop laughing

>>92634724
Al Ewing is not demanding - at all. He came to Mexico some months ago to a somewhat shitty fan convention. That has got to be fake news.

>>92636074
What if he just really hate Portuguese people

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>>92635125
Welp, that explains that

Can't wait to hear what a neo-conserative Cap thinks of the team.

>>92630113
Oh shit, Ewing's teaser of the Maker holding the Ultimate universe must be bigger than I thought.

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>>92635125
Missed opportunity if Ultimate Ultimates aren't being led by Colonel Danvers again.

>>92635125
Ultimate wasp, Ultimate giant man, Cap, ironman, hulk.

The toaa celestial. A recorder? Another giant.

>>92633622
>What are the calculations to reach that numbering?

Here:

13 issues of the first Millar book
13 of the second Millar book
5 issues of both Ultimates 3 and New Ultimates
30 issues of Ultimate Comics Ultimates
12 issues of All-New Ultimates. That brings it to 78.
The first Ewing series brings it to 90.
#10 of Ultimates Squared is, in fact, #100.

>>92635125
Based. Ultimates and the sjw ultimates.

The classical liberal right wing and sjw left wing together.

Based trump.

>>92630824
The argument used to be that people would pick up #1s and boost sales. But they did it so often (and with little justifiable reason) that they devalued Marvel #1s in general by the time the ANAD relaunches happened.

>>92636702
What if you're confusing yourself with Ewing

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>>92631748

>>92638142
Oh shit, I forgot about that time when they tried to push a bunch of #1000 issues for no real reason. No wonder people stopped giving a shit about Marvel.

OG Ultimates are back?! Okay Marvel, you got me there.

>>92638454
YES KILL ALL WOMEN

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>>92637195
>Carol flirting with Carol

>>92630213
Let's be honest. Ewing looked at everyone falling apart in Marvel and figured as long as he still gets to tell his stories it doesn't matter what the number on the issue is.

>>92636800
> Ultimate Universe
> Flat

When did Marvel get redpilled

>>92630113
I was literally just thinking yesterday how low all of Marvels issue numbers are at. Even things that will never be canceled, like Spider-Man, are only around 22-26 issues right now.

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>>92638634
Between Mystique, the Skrulls, Karla and Mim she's probably developed a fetish by this point.

>>92637879
Source for that mate?

>>92630213

Marvel has just decided "hey apparently constantly renumbering to 1st issues isn't selling books based on the number anymore"

And their alternative is to manufacture through fuckery, Milestone numbers so now they can market the shit out of ISSUE 100! ISSUE 150! , etc...

they really are like a pack of shitflinging monkeys on typewriters.

>>92635125
Remember ultimate reed wanted to reboot the ultimate universe before the end?

One without mutants or the ultimatum? That means Wasp or Hank don't die or the other heroes in the flood.

So I guess this version ignores ultimatum to up. And has no Mutants.

Another thing is that it's a merge of every other universe sans prime. So I guess there might be a different spiderman or fantastic four or stuff. Maybe.

>>92630113
>back to legacy numbering
>they chose Venom and Ultimates as the first "wave"
Jesus Christ Brevoort/Alonso/Amanat

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>>92630113
>>92635125

I was mad, but now I'm interested.

>>92638772
He's also making it work by apparently bringing in the actual Ultimates, thus bringing it full circle.

>>92640615
That's every main-line Ultimates book and it adds up to 100 for this issue. I'm not sure why you would need a source.

i will be fucking pissed if they cheat to make spiderman get to #1000 before action comics

it would be such disrespect to comic book history

>>92638772
Hence why 'Captain America and Mighty Avengers' was still all about Luke Cage, Blue Marvel and Spectrum.

>>92635125
You know, I was thinking this numbering was stupid but the solicits makes it seem more logical. Although how are the 1610 ultimates supposed to be of any help against the first firmament?

>>92635125
I will certainly miss Anti Man.

>>92644482
>i will be fucking pissed if they cheat to make spiderman get to #1000 before action comics

>it would be such disrespect to comic book history

You just know they're going to do it.

Watch them combine Marvel Team-Up with the Spider-Man numbering giving it a near 200 issue bump.

>>92635125
I'm not sure I understand how this is possible, but it looks nice, unless it's just a variant and nothing more
Captcha: Charles Yass

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>>92647978
>Yass

>>92635125
Is that a Recorder?

>>92648183
#SLAY

>>92648618
Aye.

>>92635125
So other than Ult Tony hitting on 616 Carol, did anybody else meet somebody on the other Ultimates?

>>92647144
As mentioned above they already did a bunch of #1000 issues years ago with no real reasoning behind it.

>>92651108
Ultimate xmen and xmen.

Anyways it's not exactly the same ultimate universe. It's a recreation that has some similar characters.

Unknown if other unseen characters are the same as the previous ultimate universe. Maker is merging multiverse universes into one except Prime Earth.

So it could be possible the Fantastic Four, Xmen, Thor, Hawkeye are from different dimensions.

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>>92651684

>>92651720
There was this bit of the first issues of new avengers where the Maker is speaking with Moridun of the fifth cosmos. He explained that he has been looking for proof of older multiverses, mapping their "ghosts" and then uses those models to map older multiverses. I think that's how he's going to bring back the ultimates.

>>92635125
>Eternity is free

That's a pretty big spoiler for a solicit.

>>92652110
I want to see ewing create his own universe. Probably would be tighter with continuity.

If the old ultimates stick around, probably somewhat higher sales.

>>92635125
Whos the giant blue/white armor dude with bolts on his legs?

>>92638634
Which Carol has the bigger dick, tho?

>>92630113
BUMP

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>>92654504
616, obviously.

>>92652346
Considering how Ewing only does cross-overs with Ewing, that might already be the case. It's not like The Champions or The First Firmament are gonna show up in any non-Ewing books.

>>92631309
They're already being disingenuous as fuck. Just add Ultimate Spider-Man as well and get an extra 150 issues.

>>92641662
They only care for that sweet milestone # cash.