>ASHI! I LOVE YOU! ;-;

>>92586978
>literally the power of love
BRAVO GENNDY
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>>92586978
>but I don't love you enough to stay with you in the future
>pime taradox

>finally admit your undying love to a woman
>she fades from existence a few weeks later

Jackie Boy just can't catch a break.

>jack spills his spaghetti all over ashi

>>92586978
>ashi dies without telling Jack she loves him back
>just explains why she has to disappear since killing Aku erased her timeline
Brave Gennedy you fucking hack retard.

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>>92586978
>EVERYTIME HE COMPLIMENTS YOU, HE GETS ANOTHER HIGHLIGHT IN HIS EYES!

>>92586978

>Power of love over a girl he met weeks ago, even days probably.

10/10 writing Genndy, never do animation again

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>>92586978
George Lucas and Adam Sandler have corrupted our Genndy. Jesus Christ last nights episode was so rushed and awful.

>>92586978
I don't want you

>>92587511
After watching it again, it is way better than I initially though.

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>This whole trainwreck of a season ruined because genndy is incapable of writing anything good
>Completey handwaves everything plot relevant and interesting because he's more interested in trying to force a "muh feeling" ending out of everyone with a fan fic last minute donut steel
>People are literally going to defend this garbage no matter what and keep saying "muh pacing" when in reality its just shitty writing
>Call them out on it
>"WELL UH UR JUST MAD UR HEADCANON DIDN'T COME TRUE"

UNBELIEVABLE!

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>>92587463
>>92587004
Power of Love works if it's written well. I don't think it was that bad this episode. A bit cheap and contrived, but that's Genndy.

From a storytelling standpoint it makes sense, the idea isn't a flaw so much as the execution

>>92586978
The Horse Route™

>>92587626
Quick rundown on "shaggy" and why everyone was jumping on his dick in the sticky? I have no idea what this is and I've been browsing /co/

>>92587463
This. Goddamn did the show try so fucking hard to make me care about a woman I care zero about.

>>92587681
Some guy avatatfaging Shaggy saying that Ashi would be a daughter not a love interest. He was based, and later admitted that was shitposting for "Yous".

That anon seems to be trying to imitate him, but changing the discourse for "samurai jack never was good" which has nothing to do with what shaggyfag defended. He is doing it also just for (You)s and likely doesn't really believe that.

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It's not like this is the first time the power of love managed to save someone from Aku's direct influence.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=87ZJp_mILAI

>>92587681
Some fag who kept shitposting about Ashi.

He got BTFO with episode 8.

>>92587643
>the idea isn't a flaw so much as the execution
Which is really the only problem with this season. (Sorry, futurefags, Jack HAD to go back, not having the MC complete the goal stated every ep is shit.)

>>92587905
>inb4 "You can't change the past. You have to look to the future"

>>92587905
A big flaw though.
And I don't know if it's the only problem. The idea of Ashi, for example. Is it really a good idea to introduce a secondary protagonist into your One Man Show and make her crucial to his goal in the span of 10 episodes?
Sure, it could have been done better, but even still, it's a short time span to force in a character. That's just one example. To say the only problem is the execution isn't really true

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>>92587681
pic related
>>92587857
Shaggyfag was basically saying Genndy is a hack and was giving him the benefit of doubt he wouldn't hamfist romance into the story but he did anyway, which proved shaggyfag right in which "Jashi" really did ruined season 5 with the awful writing and terrible pacing to force "muh feels" into a donut steel character.

Jashifags were hit hard because they knew he was right, but there's no arguing when it comes to waifufags. Season 5 was a disappointment, something not only shaggyfag called form the start but many others drowned out in the sea of autism of the retarded fanbase who believe genndy can do no wrong.

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>>92586978
where have I seen this before?

>>92588045
>force "muh feels"
Honestly I think it could have worked if he spent more time in the episodes fleshing out characters and the like.
As it is I'm not sure anyone actually felt a connection to Chinkerbell. When she died I just saw it as a a good thing for the story of Jack, rather than an emotional moment. Hell, I probably had more qualm over Scaramouche being killed. Ashi on the other hand didn't have much of a character, she was just a plot device and when a plot device gets used up, it's hard to care.

Even the idea of romance in S5 isn't inherently bad. It just has to be done right.

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>>92586978
>Wow, thanks.
What did Genndy mean by this?

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>>92586978
>mfw

>>92588134
I agree anon. I disappointed with the way her "character" was handled. She really was a plot device, and a poorly handled one at that.

It could have easily worked if Genndy was a competent writer.

>>92586978
Ashi´s death was literally a TTGL rip-off.

>>92588045
shaggyfag was only denying that jashi would happen.

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>>92586978
>all of Jacks personal struggles built up in the first three episodes reduced to a cringey, forced cliché romance.

Ashi was a mistake.

>>92588471
>episode 3 is the best episode, no ashi
>episode 4 onwards are all shit, ashi
wow such a coincidence

>>92588134
I did feel bad for her and specially Jack. I don't know, I had no problem sympathizing with them and being saddened by them not getting a happy ending after all they had endured.

>>92588418
It wasn't about just about jashi, It was the fact Genndy was a hack and hamfisting a romance into the show would ruin it.

Shitposting aside, he always mentioned how it would ruin the season because Genndy can't pull it off without it feeling forced and contrived as fuck.

>>92586978
Apparently not enough to stay in the future with her.

>>92587004
You mean the thing that powers his sword

>>92588688
Not like he had a choice; she pushed him into the future on her own.

>>92588688
Jack didn't make that decision, she did.

>>92588419
lel

>>92588471
>all that cliche
>can't even have it lead to them staying together.
Goddamn it

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Was I the only one who thought of Duck Amuck here?

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Im SO HAPPY that all this buildup regarding Ashi/Jack's romantic relationship was all for deus ex back to the past where she could die in the most rushed, dramatic way possible. All that time spent, and for what? Personally I wanted the crazy kids to be happy, but I would have accepted her dying if it was handled with actual weight and decent pacing. Im at the point where I almost wanted the series to stay dead

Ashi loves Kishi

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/12449184/1/Past-and-Present

>Kishi is the apprentice of Jack, known enemy of Aku, when he runs into a agent of his enemy, he and Jack must decide if she can be trusted. rated m for extreme violence, death, dark themes and some curses. OC X Ashi.

>>92588746
See this what also gets me, we were robbed of Jack dealing with the moral dilemma of choosing the past or the present/future. And apparently Jack could have just went home ages ago if he doesnt show any regret losing the friends hes made in this journey. The monks? Guess that would have been too easy

>>92588134
>>92588329
But Aku was a plot device too...

>>92588873
Nope. I had a chuckle over it when I rewatched the episode a second time.

>>92588990
That was the entire point of his growth as a character, learning to sacrifice his interests for the greater good.
And yes, the monks episode's main flaw was that it demonstrated Jack's primitive morality system at the time.

>>92588471
She should have died right here.

>>92589036
Even they were confused as to why he didn't allow them to sacrifice themselves when they were willing to do so.

>>92586978
RAIN I LOVE YOU
I WANT TO BE WITH YOU
RAAAAAAIIIIIIIN

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>>92587022
They spent some years together before the butterfly effect reached Ashi.

>>92587881
Only to win in the end because of Ashi's death in the finale.

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>>92589065
>years later


DOUBT

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>>92586978

>>92587005
Jack shouldn't have been so surprised at that.

He's been shown to be more intelligent than this.

>>92589103
considering his father looks rejuvenated from being a malnourished slave, and the village is completely rebuilt, that sorta makes sense to me.

>>92589036
You can do whatever mental gymnastics you want, but its Genndy not remembering previous episodes. And if that were the case, he would have killed Ashi himself for the greater good. I love Samurai Jack, watched the original series years ago, and know it was more about episodes than overarching continuity, but I cant stand by this rushed asspull of an ending

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>>92589103
Copypasting from another thread

>village and imperial palace completely rebuilt
>Emperor and Queen healthy again
>the landscape around the village rich and florid like before Aku's arrival
>the marriage had to be prepared and invitations had to be sent all over the globe
>the guests had to arrive from all over the globe
>Ashi was introduced to Jack's parents and became accustomed to that time's customs

I think it's pretty clear that some years have passed and that's also why Ashi sounds so surprised at the end, as if she suddenly realized what was supposed to happen to her. The effects of Aku's death had "reached" the future and the ripples "came back" right during the marriage.

So unless Jack managed to keep it in his pants all that time for the sake of traditions and politeness, he at least scored some before losing the love of his life

>>92589136
Do you have this in a better resolution?

I know Jack HAD to go back to the past.

I just didn't fucking want him to.

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>>92586978
That forced stupid romance ruined it.
How comes One Piece is the only work of fiction, that gets this right? It's like a Fermi Paradox at this point.

Samurai Jack had 3 KINO tier episodes and these were all at the beginning before Jack started bonding with Ashi.

>Ecstasy of Gold
I still come thinking about it. So fucking good!

>>92589170
No way Jack has that much willpower

>>92588419
oh fuck

>>92589261
So maybe they had a few good years of peaceful life and love. that actually would make me feel better

>>92589170
There is a 100% chance they absolutely went at it like animals if the wedding was years later.

>>92589261
>the gods punished ashi and jack for premarital sex

>>92586978
BITTERSWEET ENDING FOR THE BITTERSWEET ENDING GOD

>>92589138
Love makes fictional characters retarded.

>>92589065
Where is that from?

>>92588873
Whoa! Good call on that.

>>92588419
>loss of pacing

I think this final episode suffers 1 critical mistake.

>Ashi should have died during the battle.

>Instead of going into the past with Jack, Ashi should have gained control of herself but just barely. Enough to say goodbye and essentially suicide by collapsing herself into a time portal.

>>92589138
Looks like days minimally, but years realistically, had passed.

He probably thought the suffering was done.

If it WAS years, at least they had that.

>>92589162
>And if that were the case, he would have killed Ashi himself for the greater good.
You mean last episode? I think that obviously influenced Jack's later decision.

>season 6
>turns out jack salvaged a bit of aku's evil alien demon cum
>artificially inseminates the would be high priestess in her sleep
>becomes ashi's adoptive father

kino

>>92588873
It reminded me of that scene from Princess Mononoke where San is inside the demon goo of that pig god.
But visually it looks like Duck Amuck

Does anyone else think Jack's character was kinda bastardized because of the Ashi shit? I mean I always assumed he knew better than to let his instincts like that get in the way of his quest. I mean when the southern belle was hitting on him in The Good, The Bad, and the Beautiful, he didn't budge. Even with Ikra, the montage implied all this time passed and they still weren't as close as fucking Ashi got in a few episodes.

I also hate how the tone instantly shifts in one cut in episodes 3. As soon as Ashi gets stuck on that log, he's suddenly out of 'fighting for my life' to 'dealling with annoying 'cute' brat girl.' There was no reason for that. From that point on the focus shifted from Jack to fucking Ashi. I get it was to try to fevelop her, but even with all that time spent on her it didn't do shit. She's such a boring shallow character, her entire backstory can be summed up in a sentence. There is no reason Jack should develop any feelings for her or anyone enough to jeopradize his mission. Also she was like many of the things just put in the show to be 'mature,' when really, in retrospect, that and the penis jokes and all that kind of spoil the show's reputation. Again, I get that they wanted to spread their wings with the new freedoms, but I think they were too eager to show 'cartoons can be mature.' SJ was already plenty mature without the crude shit

>>92589989
My thoughts precisely. This Ashi shit slightly soured Jack's character for me.

>>92589989
>knew better than to let his instincts like that get in the way of his quest.
Yeah! Like when he was feeling depressed and decided to fuck off and let a whole town of people die. Oh wait.

>>92589989
And Jack was supposedly depressed and suicidal, I agree, Jack's character goes all over the place the new season.

>>92587681
He also used the same filename, so you could catch him posting in several threads with that same pic named "JashiFags" or something

>>92589989
>>92590105
>>92590130
>>92590133
Maybe now you realize heroes aren't perfect and are flawed human beings

>>92588992
Character

What character does Ashi have? Describe it without mentioning her looks, purpose in story, relationships, and skills

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>>92589237
>One Piece
>getting anything right

>>92590130
>>92590133
It makes sense for him to feel suicidal when he felt hope is lost though. Developing such a rushed attraction to someone who tried to kill you out of nowhere doesn't make sense.

>>92590326
No one said Jack was perfect. He's struggled with things before. The bs romance is the problem

>>92590326
I don't think anyone is mad about Jack being depressed, I just think it's shitty writing that Jack goes from full suicide mode in episode 6 to muh love in 2 episodes

>>92590326
that doesn't make it enjoyable to watch

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>>92589237
Out of all the thousands of works of fiction you chose One Piece as a shining example?

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Call it autism but my kneejerk reaction to this was a facepalm.

>>92589415
samurai jack wiki

>>92589194
Seconding this

>>92589989
After 50 years, he was hurting for companionship. It's understandable. And he met her at his most vulnerable. I don't think him falling in love with her damages his character at all. The romance itself was just extremely poorly handled, but I don't think there's anything inherently wrong with Jack falling in love with Ashi.

>>92590326
>Maybe now you realize heroes aren't perfect and are flawed human beings
If I wanted flaws human beings why the fuck would I voluntarily seek out stories? I get enough of that shit in real life

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>>92589989
>As soon as Ashi gets stuck on that log, he's suddenly out of 'fighting for my life' to 'dealling with annoying 'cute' brat girl.'
You mean when he drops her to her "death" or after that?

If it's the former I don't see an issue with it, the threat was largely dealt with and he was tired of her rambling. If it's the latter, I don't see a big issue with it either. Sure he could have just killed Ashi right there but he had a second to think about his actions, doubted himself and then Ashi attacked and really she wasn't a threat at all, so he kept her alive.

>anyone enough to jeopradize his mission
But he didn't do that? Ashi was mostly a barrier when she was seen as sn innocent life Jack could kill, but Jack would never kill an innocent anyway. It's less about MUH GF, more that he won't kill

>>92590512
Pretty reasonable honestly, I was just thinking to myself "fucking REALLY?" it was so fucking cheesy and not in a good way.

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>>92589194
There's this but it has a different final pic

>>92587858
at least some of Jack's friends able to rescue him in the finale. Man, I love those lizard monks. They are so based.

>>92589237
>One Piece
>done it right
nah mate. This is the same manga crap people have read for the past few years. Romance in shonen is CRAP.

>>92590396
You aren't going to get a response anon. I've tried saying that in regards to Ashi and no one ever responded. They never respond when you use it to call out other non-characters too, it's pretty funny

>>92590591

You're a dumbass. Perfect fictional characters are some of the worst fictional characters to exist.

>>92586978
So.. one question: did everyone get to Aku's tower in the 2 minutes that Aku was showing the world he captured Jack? just.. how?

>>92590563
The wiki that anyone can edit? The wiki that said that Aku talking in Ikra's voice after revealing that he was Ikra the whole time was foreshadowing that he was Ikra?

Sounds like a trustworthy source.

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>>92590617
"Oh fuck you," I believe were my exact words.

Donnie Darko'ing a relationship to try and make the audience sad right at the end is some stupid bullshit.

>>92590772

Jack also has no personality if you want to be truthful. His entire personality is "MUH HONOR"

>>92588723
Powers his sword sure. Doesn't magically allow Ashi to break Aku's control when all of her prior best attempts did little to nothing.

>>92590828
Not true. He is reserved and relatable. His actions speak louder than his words, really. You can connect with a character who wants to do good, even though he's very disciplined, he still isn't perfect either. What relatability does Ashi have? What motivates her to do anything? Does she even want anything? No, she just goes from being brainwashed assasin to brainswashed love interest with no character

>>92590396
Curious, brave, caring, hopeful, optimistic, energetic, somewhat detached from reality, being able to act calm and collected as well as furious and desperate

>>92590828

She questioned her indoctrination, learned the truth, made a friend, and happened to fall in love with her friend. Basically in whatever time span from the time Jack spared her life til the final battle, was the only time in her life she was a true human being. Ashi was also quiet and reserved but seemingly more cut throat than Jack. Kill first ask questions never, because thats how Ashi was raised.

>>92590983
>She questioned her indoctrination, learned the truth, made a friend, and happened to fall in love with her friend. Basically in whatever time span from the time Jack spared her life til the final battle, was the only time in her life she was a true human being. Ashi was also quiet and reserved but seemingly more cut throat than Jack. Kill first ask questions never, because thats how Ashi was raised.

>>92590983

Also in the earlier episodes Ashi believed reverently that she was a hero/freedom fighter, doing the good work of Aku. Sooo she was basically the same as Jack in a lot of ways.

>>92586978

From this moment up until Ashi died it felt like a predictable kids show, the power of love nonsense, I quite literally said "fuck you" repeatedly under my breath

>>92591251

I felt the same. I'd have liked if his proclamation wasn't enough to save her. Or if it did, she still couldn't over come her Aku half and had to do a Kamikaze move to help Jack.

>>92590961
Good thing we know the love of those you care about beats back Aku-ness, then, huh?

>>92587085
HONESTLY

>>92591329

I forgot if that was confirmed in a previous season. It's been ages.

>>92589538
Giant samurai robot beating the shit out of Aku was objectively the best part of the episode

>>92587004
>>92586978
>Huey Lewis starts playing

>>92587085

Saying it verbally isn't the most important thing.

>>92591377
Yeah. In The Aku Infection.

Jack was Ashi's rock, so a firm, direct declaration of love helped a lot. Aku being distracted probably helped, too.

>>92587085
>>92591400
Considering they'd been home in Jack's kingdom for some time (long enough for it to be rebuilt), she probably said it at some point, but that doesn't really matter for the audience.

>>92588419
Is this loss?

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>>92591605
Yeah.

>>92586978
>goes back in time to destroy the being who helped make Ashi in the future
>surprised when she's then wiped from existence

Jack kind of brought that on himself desu

>>92591400
>Saying it verbally isn't the most important thing.

then why the fuck ashi could only break free from aku's influence after jack told her he loved her

bullshit

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>>92589237
>Shonenshit
>Getting LITERALLY ANYTHING RIGHT

>>92591762
He was saying that Ashi showed her love for Jack through actions rather than words. Which isn't untrue. Not many people would take the 'ol non-existence bullet for someone; and hers is the REAL non-existence bullet. Now, whether or not you think she should've gotten a love declaration of her own is another matter.

It mattered for Jack to say it because while the audience already knows Jack loves her, Ashi needs to hear it.

>>92588134
>Chinkerbell
holy shit, my sides

This will probably get buried in the noise but my main criticism is that the show didn't know what to do with itself

>jack killed a human! he has crossed a dire threshold!
>never kills another human for the rest of the season

>okay jack needs to find the sword!
>let's spend the episode looking for it before saying lol no he suddenly knows he needs to go on a vision quest for it to magically appear

>okay jack has the sword lets get aku
>nah let's spend an episode and a half on an alien prison ship to focus on le awkward pauses and cutesy romance and then randomly wander into aku

>okay it's the final battle! we only have 30 minutes so lets make sure we get everything in
>spend 30% of the episode showing people walking up to tv's and the scotsman listing all his daughters

>okay jack did it! he defeated aku and is in the past!
>he's going to sit on a hill under a tree and be sad I guess?

>>92586978
I am not going to deny, I too was a Jashifag, and even I thought this scene was cringe worthy.

>>92591931
all of these

no fucking closure at all, it doesn't even feel like we got a proper ending

>>92588134
>Chinkerbell

I love you

does anyone have a really high resolution of the ending scene of aku holding the sword in ep 9? I want to make a poster out of it

>>92591931
>never kills another human for the rest of the season
This bugs me. They never did anything with regards to the killing thing. 3 episodes of Nuclear Jack and then Ashi got forced in.


The others I can excuse.
>let's spend the episode looking for it before saying lol no he suddenly knows he needs to go on a vision quest for it to magically appear
Fits, because he got his hope restored and decided to actually look for the sword. When it wasn't there the realisation dawned and metaphorical losing hope sword bollocks. It makes sense basically, he said he realised the sword left him and he got his hope back so the sword came back.


>nah let's spend an episode and a half on an alien prison ship to focus on le awkward pauses and cutesy romance and then randomly wander into aku
I genuinely think this episode was laughably bad. It was seriously terrible. But that said, I don't have a huge issue with it in the larger context because an episode showing Jack and Ashi travelling to Aku's lair or at least some part of the Journey was surely needed.


>spend 30% of the episode showing people walking up to tv's and the scotsman listing all his daughters
Yeah this was annoying, every episode started off slow though so the same could be said for quite a few of them.


>okay jack did it! he defeated aku and is in the past!
Mostly caused by the pacing issues leading to no proper closure and instead just one scene hurrying on to the next.

I don't feel like you can say the show didn't know what to do because Genndy clearly had a 10 episode plan and it's not like he was writing it on the fly. Just the way he went about it in general could have been done better. Honestly I'm more bothered by how generic some of the stuff he wrote was, and sort of contrived.

>Jack just gives up the sword immediately to Aku, abandoning his entire life goal
>could have just said "I won't fight Ashi"
>Entire Episode 8
>I LOVE YOU ASHIIIIII
>All vs 1 big battle
>muh bittersweet ending

>>92587940
i never got people wanting to give up jack going back for that theme when it already happened with jack getting his sword back and letting go of the bad things from the past the weird thing about ashi though is she ended up representing both moving on to have a better future but also letting go of the past at first jack had to accept the past was gone but he has her and then he had to accept she was gone but he has a future not clouded with darkness now

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>>92592095
>>92591910
Literally the same but Chink

>>92590396
a kind sweet girl whos eternally optimistic but misled into being violent because she thinks its protecting the things she values and is too brainwashed to see otherwise who then becomes a heroic and selfless warrior who cares for the new world she sees around her but is haunted by her dark past and being part of aku i mean theres valid criticisms about her being rushed into the story and her changing what the show is about yours is incredibly weak in my opinion

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>>92587085
>ASHI DIES BECAUSE TIME PARADOX
>But Jack still lives in the past even though Ashi was the reason he was able to travel back in time

>>92592675
Pointless milking for a bittersweet ending.
Forced bittersweet endings are worse than forced happy endings.

>>92592696
>Forced bittersweet endings are worse than forced happy endings.

THANK YOU

>>92592675
Jack belongs in his time frame.

Ashi was never supposed to exist at all (just like Aku's future was never supposed to exist), and had no point of origin, either. At least she got a few years (?) of peace in a vibrant land with a man she loved.

>>92591871
wasnt it obvious he loved her?

the whole thing was so damn dumb, maybe if they had fought or some shit before that, i wouldve accepted it, something that casted doubt on jack's affection for ashi

>>92592858
>wasnt it obvious he loved her?

To you or me, sure. But obviously not to them. They were still acting in the nervous "I don't know what this is, I'm nervous but I want more" stage of first love. Add to that the fact that Ashi has never actually experienced love before, it might be she really needed to hear it, that it wasn't just a passing fancy.

A friend of mine joked during the prison episode that it at least did a semi decent job of showing off the differences between Jack and Ashi's personalities.

Its like if they sat down to play an MMO, Jack would actually read the lore of the game before starting while Ashi would just grab a sword to start killing dungeon rats.

>>92593045
>Add to that the fact that Ashi has never actually experienced love before

Yeah and neither has Jack

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I-is there a m-mega yet? For a poor ausfag?

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>>92592696
We NEED a redo for that ending.

>meet a nice girl
>murder her family
>confess your undying love for her after literally a few days
What did he mean by this?

www.strawpoll.me/13009660/

>>92586978
I busted up laughing. It was unintentionally hilarious.

>>92593145
Jack's parents loved him, his mentors loved him, he's even had close, warm friendships in the future. No, he's never experienced romantic love, but he's a little ahead of Ashi in the 'believes they can be loved' category.

>>92593290

Meh I give it a 7. But in hind sight I should have given it a 6

Last episode should have been 60 minutes. Thats all I ask.

>>92593290
I'll give it a 7.
It was bad, but it wasn't terrible.
Will download the episodes for completion but not rewatch

>>92586978
You people need to see this from an adult perspective.

The attachment you have to the cast of the original run is evidence that this show is impactful you because you grew up with it and/or its generally a work of art and a great show as well. Either way, you care more about their lives, some small yet significant amount of people with newfound hope rather than anyone else who suffered from Akus wrath.

Millions of lives were destroyed. Cultures and peoples decimated. Suffering of unprecedented proportions for eons.

This was one of the worst possible outcomes for humanity and life in general but you're too sentimental towards the only lives you saw presented to you because the show is a master of storytelling, and ill give you that, but stop and think of it from an outside perspective. A simple matter of numbers if you need to

To undo the future that is Aku is to restore balance to the world and save humanity. Thats what Jack knew from the very start. Its what he said all the time and was mentioned in the opening intro and the god damn song as well. This is from the responsible and noble viewpoint.

This is not even mentioning Jacks own family, people, and culture as well.

1/2

>>92586978
>>92594031
2/2

What makes the last scene pretty fucking sad but very touching and heartwarming is that Jack touching the ladybug again makes him realize a small truth. Not something that can make the pain go away but something that helps him heal.. Is that he remembered Ashi valued life and life's beauty in nature. And as he waves off the ladybug he sees the sun melt the fog and illuminate the valley of trees. Beautiful, and as real as he described them to Ashi, who imagined a reality so pure and bliss when she envisioned it in ep.5. And its the very same valley he took her too to see the one tree Aku left as a sign of his destruction.

He stands underneath it and realizes this is truly a world Ashi would have wanted to live in. Something she never had growing up in a life of pain and abuse and misery. A life dedicated to killing him. And sure enough, she ended up saving him instead. Because he saved hers. She was doomed from birth and yet he broke through to her and showed her a whole new reality. One of love and freedom. See it as living on borrowed time if you will. But she would have given her life for his because of this. For this reality Jack sought all those years.

And that gives him peace

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>>92589237
If gif related, Luffy's gonna get it on with Boa Hancock after becoming Pirate King.

>>92594116
He doesn't even like her.

>>92594077
>>92594031
I still wonder if Ashi is utterly annihilated or if she got a divine exemption from oblivion.

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>>92590590
>After 50 years, he was hurting for companionship.
And that's why the "50 years" thing falls apart. Are seriously supposed to believe that in Jack's first few years traveling the future world he met dozens of friends and allies, but after he lost the sword he became isolated from everyone else for several decades?

>>92594191
She was wiped out for all those years of premarital sex

>>92594327
From what he tells Ashi, he seems to have lost quite a lot of comrades, and seems to be isolating himself from people generally out of bitterness, guilt, and intense self-loathing.

>>92589538
>MUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDAMUDA...

>>92590720
The point is One Piece DOESN'T HAVE romance you mongoloid. It knows that the adventure is what's important. Don't talk shit about something you haven't read.

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>>92594540
Nice.

>>92594515
>who is Boa HanCOCK
any ship tease and love counts

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>>92586978
>genndy incorporates one of the oldest and most overused tropes in western media instead of something related to bushido or japan
>>92587085
that's a good point, there was no reason for her to say it out loud

Why do autists get hung up on "BUT JACK SHOULD FADE AWAY TOO CAUSE ASHI MADE THE PORTAL!"
Ashi just has no tether to the timeline anymore. Jack does, he grew up there and shit. But Ashi is a product of a wiped out time, hence fades away.

>>92594646
makes no sense for her to fade away right before the wedding
its hack writing

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>>92594540
>Posting a picture of Sportacus who has magically turned invisible in a fucking Samurai Jack thread,
I don't buy it.

>>92594327

Yeah. Thats not hard to believe at all. Jack failed them. He failed everyone. Shame and depression over took him and he became a hermit.

>>92594667
Especially when the wedding was apparently YEARS later

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>was hoping Jack would cut one of the assassins with his sonic explosion knife and we would get a gigantic and gory explosion
>it never happens

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>>92589237
>One Piece
>Getting it right

>>92594152
>He doesn't even like her.
summaries of most shonens main characters in one sentence.

>>92586978
yikes the lack of outlines on his face plus the bloom looks so bad

>Jack had basically made peace with the events
>Had made friends all over the planet
>Had a girl to call his own
>Instead, the show throws in a Deus Ex Machina that makes everything worse
They could have ended it with Jack killing future-Aku, Jack, and maybe even Ashi for silly Aku reasons, being basically immortal, they could lead the world into global peace.

Instead, they go back to epispode 1 following the original goal, kill Aku, and the entire show's events are all basically nullified. It's like one step below being as bad as a "it was all a dream" ending.

Time travel is the worst story element.

>>92588419
Is this a Jojo reference

>>92588368
Down to a fucking T
>waifu gets controlled by big bad being big dad
>breaks through by power of love / magic / spiral energy
>disappears after wedding scene when big bad dad is erased from existence

The main difference is that the protag in TTGL actually realized this before doing the finishing blow, which makes it much better from a storytelling perspective IMO

>>92586978
This scene made me cringe, and I am a Jashifag.

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>>92586978

>>92591534
Going by that episode then shouldn't all of the daughters have been born as just more Akus? Or shouldn't the priestess have just turned into another Aku?

>>92586978
>"I LOVE YOU!"
>they get married near immediately

You fuckers JUST had your first kiss yesterday. You can't even hold hands without getting embarrassed. This is barely a relationship and certainly not a functional one.

Could not get more cliche and predictable if they tried.

>>92588134
>Honestly I think it could have worked if he spent more time in the episodes fleshing out characters and the like.

Why S5 only had 10 episodes, I'll never understand. 13, or better yet 16, would've really helped overall.

I hope Genndy wasn't the one to choose the number of episodes and [as] deemed that 10 was enough.

>>92588176
Its always a lafybug or butterfly that makes villians realise, "t-the world isnt all bad? WOAH." Why is this /co/?

>>92597420
To be fair, they'd been traveling together weeks or months before their relationship took a turn for the amorous, and it seems quite a long time passed after they went to the past. I mean, the kingdom is completely rebuilt, Jack's parents are healthy again, and people from all over the world have had to had to be sent for and then arrive for the wedding. Still a short courtship by realistic standards, but this is the sort of narrative where things like 'first love is true love' are accepted as a conceit of the genre without the usual sneer.

>>92597420
It's seen that a lot of time actually passed between returning home and the marriage.

Which obviously makes it more bizarre Ashi didn't disappear but he had to force bittersweet in there somewhere

>>92597704
I mean, it would've been bittersweet anyway if Ashi had given Jack his heart's desire and helped him strike Aku only to die instantly from it. I suppose if some time passed, at least they got SOME loving peace, rather than none.

Can we at least all agree that the first 3 episodes were a 10/10?

>>92594799
Wait so you're telling me she survived just fine for fucking years before fading away? That's even more nonsensical. If she wasn't instantly wiped away after Jack killed Aku, she shouldn't have disappeared at all.

>>92597508
Because ladybugs and butterflies are pretty girly bugs

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>>92587858
>this three minute long scene had better writing and emotional depth than all of season 5

>>92597508
Ladybugs have centuries-old cultural connotations, especially in the far east.

Yeah the butterfly effect logic is bullshit in my opinion. It doesn't make any sense when you think about it. Of course most people can't write time travel properly anyway so I'm not surprised.

In my opinion though the biggest problem with this season wasn't the ending. It was how rushed everything had to be to fit into a 10 episode season. Had the project gotten a proper duration of say, 24 episodes, we probably would have seen something different. However I will ultimately take what I can get, because the fact that a beloved CN show actually got revived and wasn't butchered completely for the sake of money is a miracle unto itself.

>>92599239
I agree

>>92588723
Love powers my sword too IYKWIM

>>92597386
What if a male minion of Aku had drunk the essence? Like Demongo, for example?
Would he get pregnant with Aku's kids too?

>>92588723
human righteousness powers his sword

>>92586978
Jack was a fag

>>92589688
>days
I'd say weeks, agreengly

>>92589767
More like authism.

>>92586978
PLEASE
NO MORE
IT HURTS ENOUGH AS IT IS
;_;

>>92590663
Love it
Not same anon, btw

>>92588905
At least Aku is 100% dead now, no room for evil genes fanfics

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>>92589170

Talk about killing 2 birds with one stone

OHHH?? YOU DIDN'T KNOW SHE WAS CARRYING YOUR SON AS SHE DISAPPEARED? FOOLISH SAMURAI

>>92592675
>>92592696
>TIME HAS LOST ITS AFFECT ON ME

>>92589237
>Samurai Jack had 3 KINO tier episodes
Jack vs. Ninja, Jack and the Haunted House, and Tale of X9, right?

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>>92586978
I am happy with the ending, but the only disappointment is that we will never know who Ashi's mother is and why she would willingly worship Aku and hate Jack soo much.
And why not end it with Jack meeting Ashi's ancestor in the past?
>Pretty accurate on Jack going back to the past huh?

>>92607516
Oh shit, I thought for sure the mum would come back in the finale. completely forgot about that.

I guess she really did die then. WELP.

What the duck was up with Jacks eyebrows in this episode? He reminded me of Bert from sesame street at times.

>>92607440
>Jack vs. Ninja
overrated
one goat scene and the rest is really generic

Look up Bird Mom Pearl on dailymotion, fellow ausman, it saved my life

>>92586978
That part reminded me of Revolutionary girl utena. You know the part where the purple haired girl gets consumed by those flying swords and Utena has to go in and save her and they have a exact moment much like this.

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>Cucked 4 times in the series + comics by Aku
>still not laid

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>>92607577
I was betting that she was the bountyhunter princess from snow path episode.

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Damn this means Aku's nut faded away too.

>https://streamable.com/3jsad

"good ending" fan edit

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>>92610236
the little montage of jack and ashi got me more emotional than the actual ending

>>92610236
Now THIS would have been perfect. This should have been the ending, and the sad (or "bittersweet") one we got should have been an alternate ending that was to be showcased during next week's marathon.

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>>92608242
We don't know all of what happened between the moment Aku was defeated and their wedding day (or how much time passed).

For all we know, they probably fugged not long after pic related.

>>92611173
one guy made a case that it had to of been several years since
>restoring the destroyed village
>sending invites from all over the world
>actually setting up the wedding

what if ashi died while pregant

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>>92586978

>>92589136

>finale's title wasn't Episode I
Disappointing tbqh.

>>92594540

AKARIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIN~!

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>>92610236
Not even gonna front, that shit made me tear up a little. I don't want to rewatch s5 but seeing this makes me want to relive the last 11 weeks or so

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>>92589170
still feels bad, but this at least makes me feel infinitely better

What is it about your waifu not existing anymore that makes it so much worse than your waifu dying?

>>92612715
If she dies she leaves a physical piece of her for you to bury and mourn. If she disappears Thiers nothing to bury, she'll just become a memory and like every good memory it tends to fade away

>>92612850
Does Ashi not get to show up in whatever afterlife there is now either? ;_;

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>>92610390
Same here

>>92612996
Nope