Could we have a thread about dumb 90s comics? I recently have

>ugly and stupid designs
Fuck off numale faggot! Nineties design is top tier.

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>>92534579
This thread is off to a good start.

Anyway, Adam X-Treme will always be the best/worst example.

>>92534579

Exactly. I admire the crass and over-the-top feel compared to all the restrained and clean shit you see today even if the art was kinda poopy.

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>>92534496
>tfw you'll never party to the extreme with Rob, a case full of cocaine and a life-sized replica of Badrock

>>92534496
This an X-Men, Wildstorm and early Image thread now.

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>>92534496
I'll post some of my favorite 90s shit

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Is there a more 90s image than this? It's got everything:

>Rob Liefeld art
>Classic characters mutated into impossibly-statured anatomical nightmares
>shitty coloring
>a total lack of self-awareness

Shit, wait. There aren't enough pouches for it to be truly EXTREME

I grew up with 90s comics so it's hard for me to hate them. Death and Return of Superman, Wildcats, Ultra force. Good fucking times

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This moron always stands out to me as the most 90s thing ever. I can't put my finger on why he's the MOST 90s out of everybody, but he's always what I think of.

its amazing how bad wildstorm was and when they got iconic writers the reversal was so extreme that they were consistently publishing quality work.

Even managed to make some of the characters iconic which is impressive

>>92534629
What other characters had a fucking baseball cap as part of their costume? Shit is so stupid it's great. All I'm thinking of is Arsenal's trucker cap in the nu52.

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I love how much Garth Ennis, in all of his edgy grandeur, hated 90's antiheroes.

>>92535809
This guy just straight up disappeared after the 90's right? It's so weird catching up on back issues of Justice League or Hawkman and seeing this dude randomly show up like he's been around since the Golden Age.

>>92535995
They retconned him away as Martian Manhunter in disguise, I think.

Maybe that's why I associate him with the 90s, though--he left at about the same time the EXTREME trend died

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>>92534496
>Implying today's art/designs aren't even uglier and stupider

>>92535978
Incredible.
Also, Kev was good.

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>>92535978
He hates all superheroes that are trying to be anything besides toothless pablum for children. That's why he gives Superman a pass. The less of a saturday morning cartoon the superhero is, the more Ennis will hate it.

Good ol' Garth. I can always count on him to bash religion and capes

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awwww yeah 90s thread

>>92536107
I can always count on him to blow the military harder than a USO showgirl

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90s Batman best Batman.

>>92536230
Oh yeah. Especially if it's WWII, or his second favorite, 'Nam.

>>92535978
I actually think he looks kind of cool.

>>92535333
Image X-books power rankings:

God Tier: Stormwatch
High Tier: Gen13, WildC.A.T.s., Cyberforce
Conflicted feelings tier: Bloodstrike
Low Tier: Youngblood, Brigade
Shit Tier: None

>>92536361
Sounds like you should read Faust and get your mind blown, anon

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I love the 90s for the saturated colors.

>>92535995
>>92536027
He was Martian Manhunter in disguise except he was also a real guy too.

>>92536394
That sounds like a case of two writers independently trying to do away with Bloodwynd

>>92536268
I unironically love AzBats. He actually feels more like backlash against 90's trends; he was a stated in-universe to be a temporary but necessary solution but starts going so far off the rails that the original has to be brought back to stop him.

And that armor is just gaudy enough to work.

>>92536107
Fuck that guy.

>>92536512
C'mon, Punisher MAX was fun and you know it

>>92536539
Oh yes I know he is a good writer.
I fucking loved Hitman and Kev but I can't stand him for some reason.

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>>92534496

/thread

>>92536596
I can understand that. He's kind of euphoric about his atheism, and he's the one to blame for Crossed, even though the first mini was a legitimately great horror comic

I love him to death, but I don't really need to hear his opinions on god, superheroes, or war again

>>92536643
The best part is when he uses a big gun.

>>92536230
I want him to write a cape movie script to be directed by Michael Bay.

>>92536539
Not a fan of Punisher Max

>>92536720
I knew there had to be somebody, but you're the first I've met. What didn't you like? I'm honestly curious.

>>92536755
Campbell's art was just too static for me and the coloring seemed to make it stand out. That with the combination of Ennis going very introspective made it feel like it was dragging pacing-wise meant it couldn't keep my attention for very long.

I know it's not a popular opinion, but that's how I feel about it. I'm not going to shit on people for liking it because objectively it's a very good comic. Just not one for me.

>>92536184
She looks like she has really saggy tits in the thumbnail.

>>92537262
Huh.

>>92534630
The best description I've read of the 90s aesthetic and attitude was that it was a reaction to the ultra-seriousness and realism of the mid-late 80s.

The 90s were a return to trappings of the Silver Age, with of that era's absurdity and weirdness, but angry and cynical instead of upbeat and earnest.

>>92536107
Except he like Spider-Man too, or more accurately he likes Peter Parker trying to be Spider-Man while also struggling with school, work, and relationships.

I don't know if it has to do with Ditko, but Mark Millar, Ennis, Moore, and Pat Mills are all avid early Spider-Man fans.

>>92537161
>Campbell's art was just too static for me
Agreed, I love the Goran Parlov stuff though.

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WildC.A.T.S. (WildC.A.T.S.)
WildC.A.T.S. (WildC.A.T.S.)
WildC.A.T.S.
We're good against evil

WildC.A.T.S. (WildC.A.T.S.)
WildC.A.T.S. (WildC.A.T.S.)
WildC.A.T.S.
We've got invincible power

WildC.A.T.S. (WildC.A.T.S.)
WildC.A.T.S. (WildC.A.T.S.)
Yeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh

The one and only WildC.A.T.S.

We're heroes, not zeroes
We got what they fear so
Here's the facts we got the power to the max
You know we're tough as nails
When all else fails call

WildC.A.T.S.
Nerves of steel
WildC.A.T.S.
Here's the deal
WildC.A.T.S.
You better watch out

Yeah

WildC.A.T.S. (WildC.A.T.S.)
WildC.A.T.S. (WildC.A.T.S.)
WildC.A.T.S.
We're good against evil

WildC.A.T.S. (WildC.A.T.S.)
WildC.A.T.S. (WildC.A.T.S.)
WildC.A.T.S.
We've got invincible power

WildC.A.T.S. (WildC.A.T.S.)
WildC.A.T.S. (WildC.A.T.S.)
Yeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh

The one and only WildC.A.T.S.

>>92535739
Same here, though I read more independent stuff or the "bad girl" type comics. People shit on the 90's all the time, but I'll always love the era.

>>92539016
>and Pat Mills are all avid early Spider-Man fans

Wait really? I thought he was kind of indifferent about superheroes at best and hated a lot of them at worst.

>>92539494
That fucking song

>>92535809
i'll preface this by saying i am a child from the 90's but i don't think that design is all that bad
the leg jewels are a bit much but otherwise i think it's ok
making him MM in disguise is stupid, i won't defend that

>>92535602
that man has 35 visible teeth

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ded thred?

>>92538775
I can't explain why I have always thought Captain Atom was great.

>>92544314
This is solid af.

I

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>>92544673
Because he's fun.

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>>92534496
Y'all niggas need Doom Force.

>>92536684
Him constantly berating Americans for funding the fucking IRA until terrorism happened to them is fun though.

>>92544354
I couldn't believe Sabretooth never got a series and still can't. I mean maybe the ship has sailed by this point but it would have sold like hotcakes.

>>92545521
Yeah you would think he would've gotten regular minis like Venom, not as many of course since Venom was probably near as popular as Wolverine.

>>92545416
what the actual fuck

they need to bring back thongs, titties, muscles, those Gambit headpiece things and pouches in funny books

>>92548095
Grant Morrison was mad that Liefeld was outselling him

>>92548379
All corners of the industry were so salty about the Image guys. Literally no one liked them except the fans and Dave Sim

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Isn't this gal beautiful? Imagine what her skeleton looks like.

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The look of Mcfarlane's Spider-man is to this day what I consider the quintessential Spider-man design

>>92553896
I've been rereading, and I know it goes against the common wisdom, but, Imo, Larson Spidey has aged better.
I just ordered the X-Force omni. I am legit looking forward to a dose of full on liefield.

>>92556094
>I just ordered the X-Force omni.

I was going to get the Epic collection, but it doesn't have the issues of New Mutants so I'll probably grab the omni too

>>92550302
And Moore, although he soured on them except for Lee and Valentino

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>>92534629
We need to bring baseball caps back to comics.

>>92534857
Rob actually seems like a total bro to party and hang out with despite being a bit of an ass in every other aspect of his personality. Kinda like Fred Durst.

>>92534496
Does x-treme art like the stuff in this thread work with digital colouring/inking or no?

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>>92558557
Well Image was a big adapter in early digital coloring, Steve Oliff and his company OliOptics did a bunch of work for them.

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>>92534496
mandatory on every 90's thread

>>92559861
> Platt

Hnnnnngg

listen to this podcast episode featuring Liefeld it's pretty hilarious when he talks about Mcfarlane, Moore, Alex Ross and shit. He seems like a total bro http://www.inkstuds.org/inkstuds-on-the-road-part-12-rob-liefeld/

>>92536539
Fury MAX is so much better

>>92560491
Yeah the bit about Todd basically being the devil on his shoulder telling him to always push for a better deal was great.

>>92559861
-and that was when the bad prunes kicked in.

>>92558403
>Very recently, a longtime friend and comic book author called me in a panic. He had enjoyed a nice run of success but his recent projects had been critically lambasted. He was tasting the fanboy wrath and was clearly coming undone. “Rob, how do you cope with it?? Does it affect other areas of your life??” What? This guy had lost his mind. I distinctly remember having to work extra hard to calm him down while I watched the baseball playoffs. He chewed my ear off for an hour. ” They can;t find a single positive review or quote to put on the trade collection” he whined. I stopped it all cold with offered up some blunt talk. ” Your books are top sellers. They chart great and you are moving tons of product. I don’t get your worries here. Welcome to success” And I meant it, I went on to cite many directors and movie stars including Michael Bay and Tom Cruise that the public supposedly loathed but somehow always managed to chart and connect with the masses. Same with pop stars and all other variety of artists. ” Stop worrying. I wish I had your problems” I commented. “This will pass and your next project will be even better.” That’s how I honestly feel and I stand by that sentiment always. Get up, get back at it. That’s how its done. You have to have thick skin in this business. Period. It’s not for the weak or faint of heart. Fan is short for fanatic and we are all very passionate about our favorite characters and story lines.

>>92559861
Dat Archangel though.

>>92560691
I guess Liefeld fucked those critics over, look at how successful Deadpool got to be and still is, him and Cable, aside from Harley Quinn, are easily two of the most popular characters to come out of comics in the past 20-25 or so years, and he made something that people genuinely fucking loved at the time regardless of what they all thought of him. Good for him.

>>92561406
He's said that sometimes people walk up to his booth and ask him to sign or draw on pouches and he gladly does it

>>92545416
Holy mother of fucking salt.

needs some punisher 2099

>>92560755
Monica is THICC

>>92557928
I thought Lee was pretty much the one he was most sour about after selling ABC to DC.

>>92560653
I wonder who the artist was that Todd was telling him to do the same and ended up getting fired

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>>92535927
Speedy/Arsenal.

>>92536107
>That's why he gives Superman a pass
He gives Supes a pass because Supes is the original.

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>>92534496

>>92539016
>he like Spider-Man too

Says who?

>>92544314
This isn't even poorly drawn, it's the costumes that are shit.

>>92550302
The fans hated them most of all. Image were the biggest snakes EVER. They pulled so much manipulative shit to exploit speculators that it'd make Bobby Kotick disgusted with how low they were. Image basically caused the crash in the mid-90s.

>>92545476
Wait, what?

>>92544354
For the younger readers here, this page was a REALLY BIG FUCKING DEAL when it came out. It was likely THE most talked about page in comics that whole year.

>>92558557
Image popularized digital coloring in the first place.

>>92562027
that was satire though

still entire welcome though because it's hilarious

>>92565662
That's just Marvel revisionist history. Marvel had twice as many gimmicks and flooded the market with probably four times as many garbage books. But since most comic readers are Marvel fans there's no way that would ever stick as the narrative. So now the crash was caused by Marvel's biggest rival during that period, funny how that works.

>>92562158
He was fine with Lee, it was Paul Levitz that got him to leave again. It wasn't just Moore, lot of butting heads between Wildstorm and DC after the acquisition.

Mark Millar had a nasty split because of the censorship on The Authority, once Red Sun was done he burned the bridge behind him.

>>92561406
Liefeld is seriously just a badass guy
I don't particularly like his art, but his business acumen and how much he genuinely enjoys things
that's the one thing that's so impressive about all the original Image guys really, just ballsy as fuck and loved what they were doing

>>92560491
that's a really good interview, even though everyone hates them, Liefeld/Lee/Loeb/Lobdell and Millar just understand that comics should be fun

>>92566416
I owned a LCS back in the 90s. You have no idea what you're talking about. Image caused the crash and they did it on purpose. They did shit like charge retailers hundreds of dollars of limited edition covers and then print out thousands of them and give them away at conventions before the retail copies could go on sale, thus rendering the retailers' copies literally WORTHLESS. Image had NO spine, NO integrity, just COMPLETE slime bags. Back when Comic Con was an actual COMIC BOOK CONVENTION, when Image got announced in the main area the fans in attendance BOOED them SO LOUDLY that they had to move their entire booth to a separate space and only let select pre-approved people in.

You've never heard this before because those fucking scumbags -- and I mean THE worst bastards in the entire history of the industry -- have rewritten history to make themselves "the heroic little guy who stood up to the big bad evil corporation Marvel", which is the biggest lie since "Batman created by Bob Kane", when in reality they were worse than Marvel EVER was up to that point BY FAR.

>Marvel had twice as many gimmicks

This is objectively false. Image once published a book where EVERY issue was #1 just so they could get "relaunch money" on every single issue. Nearly every comic they published had a fucking gimmick cover and/or a "1st APPEARANCE OF..." shtick and they were ALL advertised as "collector's items" and speculators fell for it EVERY. SINGLE. TIME. There was a point where you could literally have sold a comic of blank pages if it had an Image logo on the cover.

A LOT of people lost A LOT of money, and in the case of LCS owners their businesses, because of that company. Fuck you for being a gullible fanboy.

>>92567077
>Loeb

As long as he's collaborating with Sale and/or writing Superman and/or Batman, he's actually excellent. Otherwise he sucks.

>Millar

He's always been hit-or-miss.

>>92567142
still not as bad as Valiant/Wizard

>>92567204
please never imply Emperor Joker is anything but fucking awesome ever again
and Millar has way more hits than misses

>>92566751
Authority took so long to come out it was the first time I lost faith in the industry as a kid

>>92567206
All Wizard ever did was run a price guide based on retailer sales reports. Blaming them is like blaming The Overstreet Price Guide. It's false equivalence.

>>92567496
but wasn't OPG exactly like that? a price guide.
Wizard has a price guide and articles that depends on how you view at it, shills certain products/publishers so they can affect things?

>>92567496
shenanigans, now that's revisionist history

>>92560491
holy shit his Grant Morrison impression
Morrison is jealous of Liefeld
I will never ever forget this

>>92536034
one ugly image mean shes a bad design lololol

>>92560755
Does anyone ever bring this up? It seems pretty serious. Or did she deal with it through her arc and eventually got over it and moved on as a person?

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>no Ultraverse

Is this the most forgotten company in comics history? I mean, out of the ones that were actually successful?

They actually put up a pretty solid fight against Marvel/DC/Image in the early 90s, and now almost no one remembers they even existed. They might have been even more 90s than Image in that they had all the "teen angst" that Image lacked.

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>>92568062
I dare anyone to find a more "only in the 90s" image than this.

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>>92568105
>Dune

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>>92568140
this is actually kind of funny

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>>92562027
Is this the best piece of 2099 related art ever?

the 90s were the best time in comics and anyone who disagrees is a newfag

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>>92568062

I feel this cover neeeds to be posted.

>>92567832
Liefeld is fucking great at impressions. I actually think he missed his calling.

>>92568062
does ultraverse's prototype count as the first corporate backed superhero?

I know people cite capt. amazing from the mystery men movie as such but prototype predates that.

although prototype is only sponsored by one company rather than being plastered with logos.

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>>92535682
It needs a dwarf. 90s comics had an inexplicable abundance of dwarves

>>92567620
>>92567496
Wizard was out monthly unlike OPG (which was out annually with maybe some updates in a year) AND they were sometimes sold at newsstands that didn't stock comics. So they had a lot more exposure and was able to influence a larger audience. Wizard still deserves some blame during the 90's but there's enough blame to spread around to everybody at that time.

>>92567142
>Image once published a book where EVERY issue was #1 just so they could get "relaunch money" on every single issue.

Which one?

>>92568373
>the Joker+Sabretooth= "the Hyena"

Genius

>>92568299
Y'know, given all the "storytimes of pain" that people do on this board of 90s Image comics, I'm surprised nobody posts Ultraverse. They were more interesting than garbage like Spawn while still being equally shit.

>>92568665
only followed the prototype comic so I have no idea what the rest of the line was quality-wise.

at first look, it's an iron-man knockoff but closer inspection makes it clear it's only a KO in terms of he's just a guy in a high tech suit.

>>92539016
Millar's Marvel Knights Spider-Man was genuinely good.

desu I like 90's art. Not as much as some 80's art but still. With some artists it was outright beautiful at times, with others it was hilariously retarded, either way I was entertained by looking at it in some way compared to so much ordinary looking shit these days.

MORE

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>>92544277
Bisley is a treasure.

>>92545416
Oh hey, the only issue of Morrison's Doom Patrol that I loathed! I know it was supposed to be parody, but it was just painful to get throught

>>92558917
Is Oliff still around? He was a really talented guy as far as colorists go...

>>92569651
100% agreed

>>92569624
Until it almost shat on itself with the whole absolutely retarded "rogue galleries were created by the government" idea he felt the need to dedicate half an issue to.

>>92569757
Arguably the best comic book colorist ever. Even when he worked on shitty comics, the colors were always excellent.

>>92569799
Ultimate Marvel fell apart so fast and so badly that it was almost depressing. At its best it was better than the main universe has been any time since the Disney buyout.

>>92550302
>>92557928
No, Image had a bunch of support at that point. Moore, Miller (he not only wrote a Spawn comic but also wrote Spawn/Batman), Sim, Gaiman, Don Simpson, Jack Kirby, a lot of others. But they started getting flack during 1993 when they canceled other people's books citing delays. And of course later on Moore still continued working with them in some capacity (Violator stuff for McFarlane, Supreme for Liefeld) became kind of wary of some people at Image. And then Gaiman had problems with McFarlane over non-payment for Angela usage.

Arguably the most vocal critics of Image at the time they started were Peter David and John Byrne.

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From the recent Gruenwald Captain America marathon storytime. The predicessor to the Iron Patriot. It's Captain America, suffering from super soldier seurum related cardiac failure, and borrowing a suit from Tony.

>>92536034
Save it for another thread. This is for a different flavor of crap.

>>92568665
>>92569010

I curate bad comics.

What's the worst of the worst from the Ultraverse?

>>92570149
Take your pic.

There was a surprising amount of talent at the publisher, from Barry Windsor-Smith to Steve Gerber to Steve Englehart to James Robinson before he turned into one of the worst writers ever in any medium ever, among others. Yet no one could make a comic worth reading no matter how hard they tried.

The best Ultraverse shit (relatively speaking, so more like "the least ice-pick-in-temple-inducingly-bad") was arguably James Robinson's run on Firearm and anything by Steve Gerber. MAYBE you could throw Barry Windsor-Smith's Rune on there for the art alone.

The "worst of the worst"? Pretty much everything else. It was basically like 90s Image, meaning just pick anything and you're 100% guaranteed to get 90s garbage at its worst and quality was a purely relative concept. Absolutely irredeemable publisher.

>>92570489
>Take your pic.

Take your PICK.

>>92570489
If we're talking storytime of pain, fundamentally terrible concepts, that are almost self parody, like OUR LOVE IS REAL, and GIRLS, is most important. So bad that it becomes hilarious is also a goal.

>>92570592
Ultraverse is just irredeemable garbage, like 90s Image, albeit with less XTREME! art and an emphasis on writers over artists (plus a MUCH older staff consisting of a combination of Marvel guys from the 70s along with "up and coming" talent). They even used similar production values and coloring.

>>92545521
>I couldn't believe Sabretooth never got a series and still can't. I mean maybe the ship has sailed by this point but it would have sold like hotcakes.

He did have a 90s mini which co-starred Mystique. The art was very hot too, blue buttcheeks everywhere

>>92567142
>when Image got announced in the main area the fans in attendance BOOED them SO LOUDLY that they had to move their entire booth to a separate space and only let select pre-approved people in.
Oh man I heard about that. "Image sucks" chants too right? Did something more nasty and physical ever happen?

>>92559861

Holy shit.

Sue Richards is built like a brick shithouse.

That's a body that's designed to bear children and kick fuckers in the dick

Why can't we have MuscleSue anymore

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>Moore gets offered a carte blanche on Rob's character if he'll just write a book for Extreme
>ANY book
>he picks Supreme
>introduces in-universe retcons to show how Rob's universe sucks and returns to silver age Superman style stories
>introduces Suprema
>her whole deal is being super wholesome
>frequently comments on how scandalous and slutty 'modern' superhero costumes are
>Moore leaves
>Rob gives Suprema a redesign to show off her body and gives her bigger tits
>that redesign is now standard

Rob > Alan

>>92565799
Any specific reason why? It was just really edgy implying Sabrettoh's death I guess?

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90s had the best version of everyone.

pic extremely related

>>92572221
At the time Wolverine was probably on Spider-Man's level of popularity and Sabretooth was HUGELY popular and widely recognized as Wolverine's "archenemy". Imagine if Batman had killed The Joker. That's basically what that was equivalent to.

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Let's not forget Dark Horse trying to get into the super hero genre with their Comic's Greatest World line. There were some interesting titles, but X was my clear favorite. I liked the mystery of not really knowing who he was or why he was fighting crime. As an edgy teenager, I loved his look too.

>>92573010
Ghost was a fucking awesome character design, like legit 10/10, but the comic just flat out was shit.

>>92573115

Wasn't Ghost a little girl who got killed and became a 10/10 slutty adult ghost who killed people?

>>92573203
Pretty sure Ghost was an adult for the whole series.

Where can I download old extreme 90s comics? Like i want to read all the early Image stuff, not just the big name titles, is there anywhere that has good uloads of this? Like a mega or something?

>>92545416
>>92569701
Huh. I thought I'd read all of Morrison's Doom Patrol but I don't remember this. Probably for the best.

>>92572119
This.

>>92569893
13 variant covers!

Is there a more seminal 90s comic than Spawn?

>>92576022
Maybe some 2099 stuff especially Ghost Rider or Punisher but probably not.

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member when Grunge met Archie, the Turtles and Bone? The best was the the parody of Leifeld characters kicked out of their Blood Castle in Image town because when that issue came out Liefeld was just kicked out of Image when that issue came out

>>92568345
>had an inexplicable abundance of dwarves

I'm going to guess they were all John Bynre fans, since he was one of the biggest stars of the 80's, and all the dwarves are because of Puck from Alpha Flight

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>>92569881
>John Byrne.


From Savage Dragon

>>92568435
It didn't happen

Most of Image's gimmicks in the early days were on Shadowhawk. Their other books did foil variants and stuff sometimes but compared to Marvel where like every other issue of X-Men had a gimmick or was polybagged with a super COLLECTIBLE trading card, pretending Image was any worse than them is genuinely laughable. I didn't have an LCS back then but I bought comics, I bought a lot of everything including Marvel, I had a lot of love for Marvel that carried over from the eighties. That's how I know how hard they jumped over onto the speculator pandering train.

>>92578440
Next Men was such a good comic

>>92578440
Oh man I remember this. The guy with the undersea kingdom is supposed to represent Byrne's Namor, Red-and-Blue guy in front is supposed to represent Byrne's Superman, the green woman is supposed to represent Byrne's She-Hulk (and she actually became a regular in Savage Dragon as She-Dragon; she got a mohawk). I think the one in blue is supposed to be Invisible Woman, whom Byrne also worked on.

>>92567142
>I owned a LCS back in the 90s.
>This is objectively false. Image once published a book where EVERY issue was #1 just so they could get "relaunch money" on every single issue.

And I was actually around in the 90's too. Which book was it? Spawn definitely didn't relaunch, neither did Savage Dragon. Shadowhawk was a series of miniseries at first. Youngblood, Wildcats, and Cyberforce had relaunches but they were not books where "EVERY issue was #1." Was it later in the 90's or what?

>>92578965
Shadowhawk had gimmicks, but I also remembered Cyberforce had a foil cover and a gatefold cover at one point. Wildcats had an issue bagged with card. Savage Dragon and Spawn had posters but they didn't increase the price. I think Tribe and Shaman's Tears had foil covers for the first issue and Phantom Force had trading cards bagged in it. And I'd agree that yeah, Marvel did a lot more gimmicks than Image during the early 90's.

>>92536500
that's what he was but he got really popular, since as we all know Batman's no kill rule is stupid, so DC had to keep making him more ridiculous and stupid to get people to hate him.

>>92552775
Technical foul! that piece is a part of a vertical two page spread, her legs are intentionally drawn long to accommodate the fold in the middle of the page not present in the digital version your image was cropped from.

>>92559861
S.Platt is the only man on Earth who could sell a Moon Knight comic book.

>>92536500
Me too, and the Azrael series was really entertaining. It actually might be my favorite bat-family run ever.

>>92567271
>please never imply Emperor Joker is anything but fucking awesome ever again
>>92567204
>and/or writing Superman and/or Batman
Learn to read shitbrain

>>92556094
>>92557480
Re-read all of Liefeld New Mutants and early X-Force a few months back. It was a hell of a good time. I also really enjoyed McFarlane's adjectiveless Spidey run, too. It's weird how much of early Spawn you can see in it, and how much McFarlane bashes the 90s anti-hero archetype through Spider-Man's monologues.
Much as people want to tell me it's garbage, the early 90s pre-Image stuff is a lot of fun to me. I like it as much as I like anything before it, and far more than 90% of what's come since.

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>>92534496
PITT's Back! In pog form!

>>92583595
his Boom Boom was fun
90s X-Men was the best time in the franchise without a doubt

>>92534496
You mean sexy designs you can't have today

>>92572929

Wasn't it also the first time Wolverine had ever properly cleanly beaten Sabretooth in a one-on-one fight?

>>92538738

It wasn't just comics, though. The whole aesthetic of entertainment in the first half of the 1990s, especially anything aimed at children and teenagers, had that EXTREME vibe to it, and comics were embracing it. If you weren't there at the time, you may never get it, and if you were too old for it at the time, you just spent years REEEEEEEing at it.

It's really the last time superhero comics were trying to reach young readers. In the second half of the 1990s, the Big 2 did a lot of retro- Silver and Bronze Age style comics as they started aiming more and more at older readers.

>>92578387

Liefeld had two dwarves, neither of which were inspired by Puck. One was his odd homage to Jack Kirby, as a shirtless, gun-toting dwarf, and the other is Troll, a parody-exaggeration of Wolverine. The only other Image-book dwarf I remember is the one from WildCATS, who didn't seem inspired by Puck either.

>>92588286
>It's really the last time superhero comics were trying to reach young readers. In the second half of the 1990s, the Big 2 did a lot of retro- Silver and Bronze Age style comics as they started aiming more and more at older readers.
Yeah. It's too bad. /co/ doesn't get why there are so many people here whose only exposure to the characters are cartoons and movies. That's why.

>>92572421

That miniseries is actually a solid supernatural/horror-styled superhero comic, but that costume, that hair, they're so bad.

Taking one of Marvel's most feminine characters and giving her a man's hairstyle was a kind of evil more suited to modern Marvel than 1990s Marvel.

>>92589074

There are other issues involved, such as the Big 2 giving up on even trying to get comics sold in places where children or casual readers might be able to find them, and focusing entirely on the direct market and specialty comics shops, or the product getting more and more expensive for what it is, but the biggest problem of all is that any child knows who Batman or Spider-Man are, yet there's no comic that's aimed at them, or suitable for them.

>>92588286
>In the second half of the 1990s, the Big 2 did a lot of retro- Silver and Bronze Age style comics as they started aiming more and more at older readers.

Grant Morrison called them " Dad comics" which is the perfect way to describe something like Kingdom Come

>>92589661
>Dad comics
Most of Waid's stuff and Ross' too, falls under this heading.
What's funny is that I was in the Extreeme demo and that shit did nothing for me. I moved on to old newspaper strips and Kirby stuff.

>>92568215
This looks like a Judas Priest album cover

>>92590016
Comics had left grocery stores where I grew up so I never got a chance to get into comics, but I did buy action figures. Turns out a lot of them where Spawn toys because in terms of character design he knew 100% what little me wanted.

>>92589661

It did really start with Kingdom Come and Marvels. Magog was essentially born out of Waid and Ross' hated of Cable.

>>92589550
>but the biggest problem of all is that any child knows who Batman or Spider-Man are, yet there's no comic that's aimed at them, or suitable for them.

This is an abject lie.

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>>92536362
Witchblade was great too

>>92545416
>semen girl
what the fuck?

>>92544314
Can somebody check my math on this one? I counted 41 pouches.

>>92569651
Bisley is so fucking awesome.

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>>92591100
You can really feel the exclamation marks through the characters' facial expressions.