Cap is right. Why can't Americans just get along?

Don't like the comic. Not completely disagreeing with what cap says, but I know a feministic SJW made the comic as captin just said "xenophobic" professivism is all the rage in marvel comics these days. There's some elements to be taken from the speech that are true and should be applied to the real world, but not all cultures are built the same and therefore not all people from those cultures should be accepted. Some descrimination is in order, just not in the form of racism and bigotry.

>>92532794
>Anonymous 05/20/17(Sat)09:12:05 No.92532
>TRIGGERED

>>92532762
>but I know a feministic SJW made the comic
>rick remender
>SJW
lol?

>>92532652
I'd like to think that most of us get along just fine. There are just so many small pockets of vocal minorities for each group.

I'm new how do I keep tabs on posts and shit?

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>>92532652
Because they meet one another.

>>92532794
You can't be real.

>>92532652
Because Humans can't escape conflict, it is a natural occurrence. Also, many cultures are based on different values and ideas, some of them are very similar (which allows coexistence) but others are not (which of course does not mean that individuals can't make their choices and decide which personal values rules their lives).

By all means, we should try to get along but we can't simply trust blindly in everyone.

>>92532794
Looks like someone let /pol/ out of its cage

>>92532652
Polarization. The current political climate is encouraging both sides to push towards the extremes and dehumanize the opposition. This is also a fairly easy world view to accept, as they can fully blame 'them' for making things bad, externalising the County's issues instead of looking inward at how your particular group/ideology is fucking up.

@92532794
>LIBERALS ARE MASS MURDERING US.
If only
Two towers weren't enough

>>92533056
Social media was a mistake

>>92533041
Sure is /co/mblr in here.

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>>92532956
Pretty much.

>>92533041
There is nothing /pol/ish about that statement.

LEGALLY

>>92532762
Dude, you are being mind controlled by buzzwords, they are clouding your judgement. You agreed with the statement but youve attached negitive connotations to a phrase and then went full retard.

>>92532652
Because we're free.

>>92532652
Considering he's a nazi now, his whole schtick isn't worth shit.

>>92533056
>>92532956
>>92532762

/co/ is based today

>>92532652
>to see our children grow strong
I thought white people just wanted to abort their children and die out.
The future belongs to the superior mixed races.

As long as leftists continue to try to push their autism on me and others like myself, there will never be peace

>>92532652
This scene is retarded because Irish are incapable of being good people in the first place and all of discrimination against them is perfectly justified.

>>92532762
That comic is like 4 years old.

>>92532794
>Americans can't get along because half of us (dems) GENUINELY do not want peace or want our collective families to be safe, they are bringing in immigrants who will never be compatible to our society to destroy us & kill us. LIBERALS ARE MASS MURDERING US.
Idiots like you have been saying this for decades.
Like Cap points out in the OP, the Irish used to be the scary foreigners that were gonna ruin America along with the Italians and the Jews.

>>92532652
Because no mother should have to fear for her son's life every time he robs a store.

>>92533561
It really depend on if Cap was Catholic or Presbyterian. Catholics were hated because they were blowing the pope and had commie sympathies. Presbyterians were kinda volatile. Also the Irish in the US never did away with the clan mentality and it's why they are still so proud of their heritage.

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>>92533684
Literally funded international terrorism right up to 9/11

>>92532652
The idea soldiers fight for a more peaceful world is retarded. I hate when captain America sounds like an idiot

America has always been a land divided in ideology and never actually stood together for one cause.
It is a difference between keeping tradition and enforcing change.
It's an age old cycle like the chaos and order or the yin and yang.
Enjoy

>>92533041
That's not /pol/ at all, /pol/ hates interventionism, he is a Cuckservative

>>92532652

I do have to wonder. Is Steve, in fact, correct?

Times change. Steve was the Captain America of WWII, our greatest generation. But Nuke has more perspective, since he's the Captain America of Vietnam: the most hopeless, emotionally-extinct conflict since, well, the War on Terror.

I wonder what would happen if we got a new Captain America, a veteran of the Iraq War. Someone who's staunchly Republican, very much a survivor of the Generation Kill / American Sniper mold. It's not impossible - they could yet get a Super Soldier serum and shoot up damaged veterans with it.

Let's say, Chris Kyle with superpowers as Donald Trump's Captain America. What would he say to Nuke? (All right, he'd probably have killed Nuke.)

>>92533789
It was for a good cause.

Twenty Six Plus Six Equals One.

>>92533389
What he is saying is literally the Lebensraum doctrine without the Irish shit.

>>92532652
Because different groups have values that are in strong opposition to each other, which cause heterogeneous populations to invariably have less stability, trust, and peace than homogeneous populations.

>>92533684
The Italians were bomb chucking anarchists, and the Irish sent all their money back to bomb chuckers back home.

>>92533789
Nothing wrong with that, freedom. Fighters fighting for their homeland.

>>92533908
Good thing America has never been heterogeneous.

>>92532652
Life ain't comicbooks

>>92533908
>have less stability, trust, and peace than homogeneous populations.
There's no such thing as a homogeneous population. people will always find way to divide themselves.

>>92533908

Exactly. Japan's never suffered a terrorist attack from Islamic terrorists, for example.

>>92534374
There was just an American terrorist attack in Japan though.

>>92533684
The Jews did ruin america though

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>>92532794
Why, hello there /pol/.
Here have a tiny horse all for you.
No need to thank me.

>>92534425

Which one was that?

>>92533948
We were literally 80% white a few decades ago. Thanks to a Jew and the 1965 immigration act, whites are now only 60% of the population

>>92532652
that's so fucking retarded

a foreigner is not the same as an inmigrant

almost every us citizen descends from inmigrant or colonists.

>>92534374
Japan has almost no Islamic community to speak of and the ones who are in the country are closely watched. Even so, two muzzies raped a japanese woman not too long ago

>>92534505

Did they get the death penalty?

>>92534473

What's stopping white folks from having lots of kids again ?

>>92534473
>all white people are the same
Pretty racist anon.

>>92534543
https://www.google.com/amp/www.tokyoreporter.com/2016/02/22/tokyo-cops-arrest-turkish-asylum-seekers-in-gang-rape-of-woman/amp/

>>92534505
What is with people and raping the Japanese? There were those US Seamen that raped that 12 year old and than that Marine that raped a woman and cut her up and stuffed her in a suitcase

>>92534583

http://content.time.com/time/subscriber/article/0,33009,2148636,00.html

>(((Lauren Sadler)))
Jews have decided to promote the child free life and we have more immigrants from non European countries coming in every year

>>92534583
Modern disincentives towards having families and how millennials have adapted to them.

Everyone's too busy working or trying to get a job so they can be worked to death because Your Job Should Be Your Life.

>>92534679
Japanese people are small and it's relatively easy to overpower them

>>92532652
>All religions, all nationalities, we all want the same thing
Which is why no one can have it, which is why everyone is fighting.
>To see our children grow strong. To provide safety for our families. To live in quiet times.
I don't even need to elaborate on the measures each person is willing to go to guarantee each of these things.

I understand he's talking down someone so he's reaching for common ground, but I can't understand how someone like that wouldn't immediately know why they're fighting in the first place.
Cap even reminds him why soldiers exist.
Renewed conviction is what should come from such a conversation.

>>92534583
An economy and culture that encourages people to put off having children until they're 35+

>>92534473
It's hilarious how you completely miss that that is the point of Caps speech in the OP. When America was "more homogeneous" it was Cap's people that were the dirty rapist foreigners that were unfit for American.

>>92533884
I NEED THIS COMIC NOW

>>92534679
>small stature
>easily overpowered
>feminine features
>very high degree of neoteny
>their pornography tends to fetishize nonconsent
>culture of shame prevents them from saying anything

They're incredibly rapeable.

>>92534679
yea, just look at how we raped the japs during WWII

>>92534621
Of course they're roaches.

>>92533884
So basically The Punisher with superpowers

>>92534691
So you are saying that white people are so weak willed they will just do whatever Jewsih people say?

>>92534840
Then go down to your LCS and buy Spencer's Captain America.

>>92535102
>supporting marvel
eww, ill just read RYV and SM/DP online thanks

Yeah if whites whined less and bred more there would be no problem.

>>92532794
you expressed a way too /pol/, but basically that won't happen because ppl want to impose their belifs to the other (religious- political - moral etc).
So no, "just get along" is not happening.

>>92535071
Funny how that works, isn't it?

>>92533684
Italians, Irish & Jews didn't commit 911.
Italians, Irish & Jews don't stone women to death in the streets for driving.
Italians, Irish & Jews don't imprison women for getting raped.
Italians, Irish & Jews don't pour acid on their children's faces for kissing before marriage.

>>92535680
>Jews didn't commit 911

Let's not get ahead of ourselves here

>>92535680

Yeah. Italians were Mafia and gangsters, Irish were Catholic and drunkards , and right here we have people blaming Jews for white swimmers becoming pathetic with every generation

>>92535300
If blacks and arabs bred less, there would no problem.

>>92535753
They didn't commit it. They did know and profit off it though.

>>92535680
The Irish blew up children anon. We've got to keep them out of our country.
Also hasidic Jews in New York stone women for wearing shorts.

>>92532762
>"I know a feministic SJW made the comic"

>Old comic made before the time of SJWs
>Remender

>>92535680
/pol/ please tell me you aren't this stupid. You're the kind of person Cap is talking about. 80 years ago you'd be saying the same thing about the Irish. 80 years from now you'll be saying the same thing about whatever new group your Republican overlords tell you to hate.

>>92536629
That's not /pol/, otherwise He would be blaming Jews

>>92532652
>>92532652

What issue is this? I'd like to look it up.

>>92536750
It's from Remender's 2014 Captain America. I don't remember the exact issue but it's from the Loose Nuke arc.

>>92536825

Thanks!

>>92536902
No problem. it's actually one of my favorite recent Cap runs

>>92534971
? The US didn't do a lot of raping. The Japanese actually hired prostitutes and girls without a spouse to fuck soldiers. Unless this is a Nanjing joke.

>>92533684
Now we have muslims, who actually WANT to ruin America. What do, Pyanfar? What do, what do?

>Irish people discriminated against in the past
>Black people discriminated against in the past
>Irish people don't ask for reparations constantly

Makes you think

>>92537080

I just found it, I'm reading it now.

I'm actually interested because I'm writing a thesis right now about the way superheroes' political alignments/beliefs get changed and molded over time and culture shifts, and by the rotating roster of writers that helm their books. Captain America's basically been a nonstop roller coaster in that regard ever since 9/11, I've been so focused on the recent maelstrom surrounding Nick Spencer that I must've let some of the build-up slip under my radar.

>>92535071
I've noticed that if you replace jewish with "other white people", that statement is absolutely true.

>>92532652
Because they are Americans.

>>92535300
Their women having arbitrary dating standards and trying to compete with them in the workplace, as well as both sexes being socially manipulated by the hetero-hating, permanently miserable light community is fucking that up.

>>92537316
I was going to school you on how the conditions blacks endured in this country isn't even comparable to what the Irish went through but then I realized I'd be trying to reason with an underaged /pol/ack.

>>92537531
The way you've structured your sentence makes it seem like you intend to say that the Irish have had it way worse than the blacks.

>>92537590
My bad but you understand what I'm trying to say.

>>92537408
Yeah, why do people have standards when it comes to who they want to procreate with?

>>92534831
Thing is they were legal, not criminals

>>92532652
Because in the land of the free, they still have to argue about who is "free-er" than the rest.

>>92537865
The majority of Irish immigration were illegal that were forced into indentured servitude out of threat of deportation. The only thing that stopped this was the fear of "white slavery"

Why not just segregate all races ? that might work right?

>>92537678
Having standards is one thing, but when 90% of AVERAGE TO UGLY women are seeking 3% of the attractive men, there's a problem.

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>>92532652
This was obviously the first stages to slowly make people less patriotic as if its a bad thing, most normal people with patriotism won't turn into that but they also won't sit by an let our country be ruined by the (as it was put in terms of patriotism) fanaticisms of immigration. If you come to america you come to be apart of the american culture while still celebrating your own, you still stick to the core values of being an american. Why do you think europe an other countries have this problem, they don't know how to balance that, they never had to before yet we've been doing it for years. Also immigration in this country, doesn't mean every lowlife and despot set on ruining our way of life should be invited, thats just stupid and self destructive. Jews ruined this America with their constant schemes to divide this nation, whether through tv/film, books or even comics, its a pretty fucking long list sooo etc etc etc.

>>92537999
Segregation never works.It becomes an excuse for one race to persecute the other.

Why can't humans just get along?

>>92538294
>Jews ruined this America
...you do know that Roosevelt was probably referring to the Jews when he mentioned equality?

>>92538294
> Teddy had it so right!
I wonder if you're equally onboard with the idea of a federal system of health insurance for everyone. Teddy also supported that.

>>92538294
Which American culture? Black American culture, upper class white American culture, poor white culture, southern culture on the skids, Louisiana creole culture that speaks their own French English bastard language, Texican culture, liberal California culture, Native Rez culture?

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>>92537316
This. Anon >>92537531 stop being so butthurt about the past that it keeps you in mental slavery instead of moving forward on how to get ahead in life. That's exactly where (((they))) want you. Thats what most blacks still do yet the ones that don't dwell on it to the point that it holds them back, are SURPRISINGLY the most successful, really makes you think. I understand slavery happened along with jim crows and many other atrocities, but if that didn't stop my ancestors from making strides when they were going through the actual shit on a completely different level of today, why the fuck should I let that hold me back when I went through less of what they went through. The north had already freed their slaves before the industrial revolution many irish and itailans and blacks lived int he ghettos together the irish and italians decided to work together as community and traditionally do so today to get out and stay out, yet we somehow never got that right, no wonder so many of us are still in the ghettos.

>>92538472
His culture, specifically.
"Real Americans" always think other "Real Americans" are indistinguishable from themselves.

>>92538427
Probably, doesn't change the fact the the jews still ruined america I'm not faulting teddy for that nor am I using that quote on the basis of defending them. Its to generalize the ideals an american should have as a whole as oppose to the current state we have been propagated on by the media like OP pic tried to infer.

>>92538463
That would never work because the american mindset as a whole isn't set up like the european one (before migration problem) where everyone was doing their part to create a well mannered system for the people. In America, well lets just say theres way too many freeloaders not doing their part to ever have a good health care system. If i was to compared the mindsets of the periods tho, it was probably more likely back then than it would ever be today, thus why he thought that way.

>>92538472

You my friend just stated the beauty that is the american culture everything except for the cesspool that is california, since you might as well kill your own country with the liberal mentality culture California is now. Also black culture stems in many forms now, but if talking about the jew created afrocentric identity politics bullshit then no. Thats not only un-American its anti patriotic, and makes you think if you love your roots so fucking much get your ass back there to africa and stop complaining about how you wuz kingz and shittz to create further division amongst people.

Religious fundamentalists and criminal opportunists definitely do not want the same thing as everyone else. Also, America is already far too overpopulated and the economy is falling apart as a result, so there is no reason to let any immigrants in even if they were all perfectly good people.

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>>92538472
Also this>>92538703

>>92538944
>Religious fundamentalists and criminal opportunists definitely do not want the same thing as everyone else.
The right white ones do.

>>92538904
Nope, tho have to be included in the beauty of America too. Every bit of American subcultures are American. The only un-American is people trying to rid America of any of those subcultures.

>>92539113
Kek. You are a retard chauvinist idiot.

>>92539576
If you don't like the melting pot, you're free to leave.

>>92539683
The melting pot its a myth, and every country in the world aside from native ruled countries are a bunch of cultures put together

Brazil, Argentina, Australia, Chile, New Zealand, every country is as diverse as fucking America. You are a chouvinist idiot that ate all the propaganda your media has been feeding you. America isn't special, America was always corrupt and the nice values you heard about were nothing more than a way to control plebs and make them die and fight for the interests of a elite.

>>92539920
I'm not saying America is special, I'm saying people that want to push out other cultures are un-American.

>>92532762
>professivism is all the rage in marvel comics these days
but this comic is old anon,you are letting hate cloud your judgment

>>92539995
America isn't multicultural, it's multiracial. Big difference, America hasn't been multicultural since the killing of the natives, a very American thing. There's no such thing as being un-American when that conduct is as American as High-fructose cornsyrup. Thing is you want to associate being American with positive shit, and un-American with negative things.

The melting pot has always been propaganda and the jew that came out with the idea knew it.

>>92538294
>If you come to america you come to be apart of the american culture
and then you put all of your fellow americans in concentration camps because they have japanese heritage.

>>92540169
Wow you're full of hate.

>>92540169
Okay.

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>>92533789
Why do retarded people blame an entire group of individuals for the actions of the minority? It's the Jews! It's the Blacks! It's the -insert the bogeyman here-

Eat shit.

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>>92537245
Stop bombing their countries and bank rolling their dictators so they stop fleeing over here would be a start.

>>92540304
Because it's easier then admitting the world is a lot more complex and a lot scarier then people though and that be extension they knew much less then they thought they did.

Think about it: eventually as an adult you have to confront that there are large and significant aspects of your life you have precisely zero control over, and the only control you have is how you react to them.
Then you find out that beyond not even having any real control, you actually don't KNOW anything either. The knowledge of the world you thought you had amounts to almost nothing when tallied up with the sum total of knowledge that you would be required to know to understand all the things that affect your life that you can't control.

A lot of people can't handle it; they HAVE to feel like they've got something to hold onto in a larger philosophical context and finding a generic but nice and vague (and thus impossible to defeat or disprove) "enemy" to blame all of your problems on is pretty satisfying emotionally.

Sure it doesn't help your life or help you come to terms with it, but you can't even be proven wrong about it either and you don't have to actually commit to dealing with it because the "enemy" is so broad or has such a broad definition that you logically know they can never be defeated, so you can live comfortably in your self-created bubble where you hate something without needing to commit to hating it or proving it's even real.

>>92540180
Here's an idea don't bomb a country that wasn't in war with you when you were clearly winning the war.

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>>92532652
>Irish

I thought 'they' consider them to be the "privileged white" just because of the skin color nowadays

>>92540905
>Here's an idea don't bomb a country that wasn't in war with you
Heed you're own advice, America

>>92532652
>all religions, all nationalities, we want the same thing
Yeah the problem is the surrounding stuff that people also want, moral norms and laws and such, differs so much

>>92532652
>To see our children grow strong
>To provide safety to our families
>To live in quiet times

Which EVERY SINGLE piece of evidence shows homogenous societies are better at.

Of course the clergy of the "party of science" only cares about scientific studies when they say what they want to hear, the same any other religion.

>>92540304

While granted this anon >>92540485 is right on the notion of the world being a complex and scarier than people perceive it to be. The simple fact is Jews have done a lot of evil in this owrld and still are the only difference is if you say that its anti-Semitic or some big conspiracy. yet we've seen the state america and even Europe is in. Jews in this country own the banks, the courts, the government for the most part, hollywood, the media, etc , yet somehow we're to believe white people are the true 1% and that they own most of the things mentioned. Thats not being retarded anon, being retarded is turning a blind eye to it so you can look like a good person in the eyes of others. Also most blacks were and are still being used as tools for the jews to keep setting our race back with one nonsense after the next. Rap in itself has ruined my peoples mindset and visions of themselves a respectable educated people in society. The music industry just happens to be owned by jews, I guess instilling music that's meant to uplift us was too hard of a sell for the poor defenseless jews who could care less if it poisons our minds and communities. Take your ignorant ideology and kys.

>>92532652
No you become soldiers to kill humans for the benefit of your nation.
>2017
>Soldiers think they are heros.

>>92535071
You've seriously never heard of propaganda?

>>92541132
I knew that was coming blaming americans for shit the cia does to fuel wars we also don't want but get suckered into.

>>92533684
>Comparing Hiberians to muslims and blacks
You have to be a liberal only liberals even think dumb whites people are as dangerous as muslims or blacks.

>>92532652
If they are immigrants, they arent foreigners.

>>92540304
Because the individual doesn't matter in any respect when talking about population. The fact that you think humans are above the use of basic pattern recognition and general probability shows you follow a dogma. A fucking stupid dogma once any amount of thought is put into it. If stereotyping wasn't valid, then it wouldn't be the multi-billion industry it is.

>>92537316

Irish people got reparations in the form of being considered white now.

>>92541233
Maybe we should stop electing people that let that happen? maybe we should also stop selling billions of dollars worth of weapons to countries whose citizens were the majority of the 9/11 terrorists?

>>92540304
Blaming an entire group makes it easier to solve the issue by removing that group.

Balitmore would not be a hellhole if blacks were gone.

America wouldnt be a diversity infested shithole if jews were gone.

Meanwhile blacks blame every fucking white that exists on this rock for slavery and segregation and I dont see you doing a thing about it at all hyporite.

Dont get me started on jews using their talmud logic to justify the evil things they do to us white people.

I don't dislike immigrants just because they're foreigners. I dislike them because they're bad for the economy and lower the cost of labor. Plus, Islam fucks every country it infects.

>/co/ getting triggered by people that don't exist
amazing

>>92541410
>I dislike them because they're bad for the economy
Source?

>>92536708
He's /pol/-lite, probably fresh off the train from r/conspiracy. He hasn't had time to read anything that ))really makes him think((.

>>92541463
The president said so.

>>92541463
http://www.bankofengland.co.uk/research/Documents/workingpapers/2015/swp574.pdf

"Bad for the economy" is a bit of a misnomer. They may very well put money in the hands of the "1%".

Which is why liberals make me laugh. They're the perfect retards, railing against the very people they hand the world on a silver platter.

>>92541658
>actual evidence
What evidence? More specifically, what evidence to prove that this is a cultural thing and not just a demonstration that there are SOME Jewish people who are either racist or greedy?

>>92538904

The freeloader thing is a myth. Europe and Israel and other places have shitty people too, and they can get their social programs working to a decent extent. Not saying they're perfect, but it's better than the current system.

One of the issues is that people like you see, say, one single black freeloader and think that it's better that the deserving do not get anything, rather than the undeserving getting anything.

And again, you're the one blaming things on Jews in general, when a lot of them aren't part of whatever the hell you think is running the country. If Jews controlled everything then why was John Stewart stuck on cable TV instead of getting a prime time spot?

>>92541387

See, the funny thing is that this all inflicted by the whites on themselves.

First whites go to someplace where non-whites live, and don't like it so they proceed to kill all the non-whites.

Then they go import black slaves because paying white people to do jobs is too expensive.

Then they go conquer places filled with non-whites and whites who speak a different language. They continue to kill the natives, and brand the Spanish-speaking whites as non-white.

They also go bring in a lot of Chinese people to do work more cheaply than white people... and then proceed to freak out about all the Chinese people around. Then they ban the Chinese and start bringing in the Japanese... and cause the exact same situation -again-.

You blame all the other races for the bad shit of their minorities, and yet don't bother thinking about the bad shit that whites do.

>>92541623

Except conservatives do the same thing, by busting unions and not seriously going after people who hire undocumented workers... and they rail against the rich people by calling them Jews like the other guy I quoted.

>>92541463
>>92541538
>Doesn't know
Look, it's easy economics. More of something makes it have less value. Simple supply and demand. If there are a huge amount of workers being added then suddenly the demand for jobs go up and employers don't have to pay as much. Not only that, but the immigrants we do get start working for less compared to locals meaning that this also makes pay go down. Then we have immigrants that don't even get jobs and simply live off of welfare. Now, immigration in itself isn't bad. After all, economics also says that constant growth is a great thing, however, if we get too many immigrants all at once then this has the opposite effect. I can't find the exact source I learned this from so here's one I googled quickly and probably doesn't really mean anything http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/09/trump-clinton-immigration-economy-unemployment-jobs-214216

>>92541208
No, you don't. The duty of a soldier is to protect it's nation (that is, the land, people, values, etc.), from both foreign and domestic threats.

The whole "soldiers exist to take orders from whoever is in charge" is extremely dangerous because it inevitably ends up with an authoritarian government using it to smash opposition and people.

>>92541715
>Except conservatives do the same thing, by busting unions and not seriously going after people who hire undocumented workers... and they rail against the rich people by calling them Jews like the other guy I quoted.

What the fuck are you talking about, conservatives aren't a synonym of right wing you media addled dip.

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>>92541715
>uses slavery as an argument
Holy kek!

>>92541766
He was being too general. Perhaps "American conservatives" would be more appropriate, considering British and Australian conservatives are a whole different set of issues.

>>92532652
Sgt. Hatred literally has two lines on this page:
>These filthy foreigners made us look bad.
>W-what?
The rest of the page is Captain America talking him down with a logical monologue about how great multiculturalism is. This is just a slightly more sophisticated version of "I AM SILLY" MSPaint comics. Only an idiot could enjoy this garbage.

>>92541676
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MFE0qAiofMQ

>muh think of other jews
Fuck off jews have gone too far to ever forgive them individually at this point.

>>92541715
I dont give a shit about some chinks I care about the african menace in our country.

>Be wealthy liberal who owns a company
>Want to have cheap labor, but also want to brag you hire American workers
>Support tons of illegal immigration so you can have those same cheap labor workers
>liberals say they're being progressive
Easy to trick retards

>>92541823
If you think that posting the testimony of a few people justifies treating an entire population of hundreds of thousands as enemies, you seriously lack some perspective in life.

>>92541738
>an authoritarian government using it to smash opposition and people.
United States of America.jpg

>>92541715
>The freeloader thing is a myth. Europe and Israel and other places have shitty people too, and they can get their social programs working to a decent extent. Not saying they're perfect, but it's better than the current system.
Again, a population is the sum of it's part. The individual DOESN'T matter, in a world of 7.5 Billion, that's a frankly retarded sentiment. In ANY other field, in any other sample, they'd call that idiocy out. A population is the sum of it's parts, and a community will trend towards the average of the average of the populations who make it up in every respect. You talk about Unions like they're the gold standard of workers rights, but Switzerland, a very good country for mean GDP has shit for Unions. Lotta germanics though. And no, I'm not one, but what I am has no effect on reality.

>>92541798
>He was being too general. Perhaps "American conservatives" would be more appropriate, considering British and Australian conservatives are a whole different set of issues.
Racial purity isn't even an American conservative position though. I mean, I'm racist as fuck because I have functioning pattern recognition and didn't turn off my brain in regards to certain samples for reasons I don't even understand, but I'm in no way a conservative.

>>92541715
Don't forget how the US allowed Europe to gangbang Germany after WWI because they didn't care, and then allowed Hitler to obtain weapons for it's army so he would "stop the communists from spreading"; fueling WWII.

Then they decided to give away weapons and training in Africa and the Middle East to "stop the Nazis", creating Al Qaeda and every terrorist group that haunts them.

Or my favorite one: The War on Drugs. Billions of dollars down the drain for what? That stupid decision indirectly created all the big cartels terrorizing South America and smuggling drugs into the US. Not to mention, the billions wasted throwing people in jail for "possession".

Now all that is coming together to create a big Police State fueled by fear of terrorism, drugs and electronic surveillance. The US is too big for it's own good.

>>92541387
So in other words I should gather all the retarded like you and shoot them in the head? You're right, that is an easy solution. Just not a good one to anyone that has common sense or any sense of right and wrong.

>>92541873
I already told you treating jews like individuals is no longer an option, they have a history of being human cancer to Europeans and even their own brothers in the middle east.
>>92542026
What? How am I retarded? Someone retarded would not even reach this conclusion.

>>92541309
So in other words you believe something is valid just because people make money off it?

Maybe you should try not being a retarded faggot. I hear it's all the rage these days.

>>92541981
>Or my favorite one: The War on Drugs. Billions of dollars down the drain for what?
To fund the prison industrial system and re-legitimize a form of slavery while also protecting suburbs and upper class communities from miscegenation.

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>>92540304
Because they're capable of basic pattern recognition.

>>92541981
>The US is too big for it's own good.
So you're admitting you want the US to loser it's power? well thanks but I don't think we should listen to people like you when it comes to politics since you've admitted to wanting the cripple the American infrastructure.

>>92541728
The thing is, I agree with you, but then nobody seems to care when those same businesses start outsourcing that labor to a cheaper country. The domestic worker is still getting screwed, but that's almost never brought up in these discussions as a significant problem.

People seem to be eager blame the Mexicans that come here for taking your jobs but not the company that moves half their plants to Mexico. Why is that?

>>92541855
>be a wealthy conservative that owns a business
>want cheap labor but also want to brag about hiring Americans
>have all your products built over seas and complain that wage laws make it too hard to hire American
>become president on this platform

>>92542165
None of these retards defending blacks dont live near an area with over 60% blacks in population percentage or they would be talking differently.

The only way for these idiots to know how ruthless and violent blacks are is to drop them in South Africa and watch as their fellow black brothers mutilate them casually and nothing is done about it at all and will be done about it.

>>92542165
I'm curious as to what you think this chart is proving beyond the fact that people mostly kill their own.

>>92542249
I did bring it up. see >>92541855
These companies want to get the cheapest labor possible, so either they go to another country where they can hire workers for pennies or they try and hire illegal immigrants in America so they can brag they hire American labor. Now, a lot of people give Trump shit but I think he's been addressing this issue fairly well. He offered tax cuts to local American companies while implementing a larger tax on imported good from the same companies that go over seas to insentivize local hiring. But these same companies are trying to act progressive and encourage more illegal immigration into the country to get around this issue.

>>92542330
Its pointless trying to reason with you, you will have to learn the hard way and realize only white people believe in this multicultural nonsense. Blacks want a land of only blacks in it.

>>92542099
>So in other words you believe something is valid just because people make money off it?
What are you talking about? Of course it is? If people are making billions of it, it's proof that their assumptions most likely have weight.

It's a near objective metric backed up by people placing actual value on the assumption and seeing a return. If their assumption was incorrect, it would not yield consistent results and the people would not be in business.

But no, your feelings trump objective information. If "not being a retarded faggot" means ignoring valid information about reality in favour of the reality I would like to see, then I'll stick with being the most retarded faggot on this site.

>>92542255
>become president on this platform
Did you even watch Trump's speeches? He specifically said in many of his rallys that he'd try and put a stop to this. It was a big PLATFORM that he'd try and stop this.

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>>92542165
And hopefully you're not capable of reproducing. You could give a fuck less about people that get murdered. But of course, you're more than willing to take a statistic and point to it like it's indicative of everyone within a race. Good job. You've successfully proved absolutely nothing

>>92542419
Why would he put a stop to his own practices anon? That's just dumb.

>>92542380
You weren't even responding to me before. That was someone else. According to the numbers in that chart not only do white people kill more, they kill themselves more than black people kill them, because the percentage of black on white homicides is 15% while white on white is 91%.

Which makes logical sense as most homicides are crimes of passion or opportunity, and proximity is a big part of that.

>>92542255
And commies aren't distributing their own wealth among the people? Rather trying to install this as a system.

If you think this is hypocritical, you have a serious lack of critical thinking skills.

>>92542441
I don't know, anon. Why did he? see >>92542360

>>92542083
Clearly it's possible, you're living proof kiddo!

>>92542455
Holy fuck do you not even know what proportion is?

>>92542360
It's a little naive to think incentives will actually promote the change behavior in that way. What's keeping them from just pocketing the money and doing whatever the fuck they want?

They tried that shit in Kansas and it nearly bankrupted the state.

>>92541240

>have to be liberal

Or you could just not be white

>>92542484
No, I'm not good with numbers. That's why I asked how you were interpreting the chart. But then instead of offering the red pill you just chimped out at me.

>>92532762
>its a "I spend way too much time on 4chan" post

>>92542467
You know he hasn't submitted his tax plan yet right? That was just what he said in speeches so far.

>>92541240
Dumb muslims and blacks may kill you, but dumb whites take away your reasons to live.

>>92542565
It's only been a few months so we'll have to wait to get the tax plan. Do you know how long it takes to do something like this? Just take a look at other presidents in the past.

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>it's a politics thread on /co/

Mixing cultures just doesn't work.

America is going to become more unstable as it becomes more diverse.

White people don't like black people. Black people don't like mexicans. Mexicans don't like asians. And so on.

It's just how it is. Pussyfooting around it isn't helping anyone. Let us go back to having homogenous countries.

>>92542544
I'm not the guy you replied to originally, but according to this chart. Blacks, which are less than 1/4 of the population of whites, murder at a rate comparable to whites in flat numbers. You say that most crimes are due to proximity, well now this is why people don't want to be around certain demographics. The percentages on that second half of the picture, I don't even know what they'res saying because they don't make much sense at all if you look at them.

The chart also lumps hispanics in with whites which is incredibly disingenuous.

Sorry about that, I guess it's easy to be an asshole on the internet.

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>>92542409
>Boy I wonder who could be behind this model of business!

>>92542380
That seems like a very broad generalization.

>>92542726
So are we not gonna bring social economics into this, or?...

>>92541309
Ok you remember that the next time a SJW calls you a racist privileged white man.

>>92532652
Cap knows we closed the borders for a long while after that right? Need time for cultural integration to occur.

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>>92532652
Americans can get along just fine, it's the other nationalities that have to fuck off and go back to their own countries.

>>92542615
Obama's was submitted and passed by February. But I'm sure he will work against his own self interests just like he wasn't going to bomb Syria, we were going to build the pipeline with American steel, we were going to be rid of ISIS in 3 months and she was going to be locked up.

>>92542786
We can if you want. It tends to fall apart when the other guy realises America doesn't encompass the entire world.

>>92542409
I mean it's not like you've really provided anything to substantiate your argument either. You've given no zero examples.

>Where I agree and don't agree.
I agree that companies use stereotypes to market certain things or ideas to people. That's just demographics and business. They know their target audience and therefore market in a way that appeals to that target audience. Obviously stereotypes exists, but when does it come to the point where you're justifying bullshit because of that?

>>92541240
I personally think im more likely to die in a mass shooting than a terror plot.

>>92541738
Soldiers don't do domestic threats. That's the police. The militarization of our police force has been a hot-button topic since the 90s and the way we treat our vets (either with some kind of crazy heroism or by ignoring the problems they have to take on in their line of work) just shows the extent to which no one is really sure how much we want to be policed.

>>92543074
>There's a reason you separate military and the police. One fights the enemies of the state, the other serves and protects the people. When the military becomes both, then the enemies of the state tend to become the people.

>>92542790
I don't even deny that there is such a thing as white privilege though. Of course there is, other people have the functional capacity for pattern recognition too. They see me, from the information they have they make the assumptions about me that they would from the information they have.

The individual is meaningless to the population. However, the population is meaningless to the individual. It's just an unfortunate fact of life that we simply do not have the mechanism to judge every individual by the metrics of themselves, there being more individuals on this planet than there are seconds in your lifetime, and you being likely to pass more people in one hour on a busy city street than you'd actually get to know in your entire time on this planet.

A man will be treated as the aggregate man of his appearance by people who don't know him because that's what it's safest, in investment terms, to assume he is. As you get more information, you can paint a more accurate picture. The same way you would judge and treat a man differently depending on the clothes he's wearing, you would do the same with the colour of their skin, because it's a game of probability. A black man is going to be treated worse than a white man in society, that's an unfortunate fact. Becuase regardless of his

No, I believe in white privilege because it's the logical conclusion of my views, that people will always go with their pattern recognition on the information they have, and that will tell them that whites are less likely to be a "bad investment" than some other demographics. However, I don't think that it's a problem. And I know that the only way for demographics to stop being looked on as they are is for the demographic itself to change. Which is an impossible task for the individual.

Come on, we all know the stereotypes have a core of truth.

>>92543250

No they don't. Some stereotypes do, most don't.

>>92543327
Which ones do/don't do ya think?

>>92543021
>terror plot
lmao, muslims are criminal jerks in Europe, hurr terrorist is just a thing they do when they get really bored and want attention, the majority of the time they found gangs that terrorize people for no reason.

>>92537999

That's what separate countries are. The nation state is the best state

>>92543250
>whites are less likely to be a "bad investment" than some other demographics
Asians, anon. Do Asians have Asian privilege?

>>92532652
Liar. Rogers is an Anglo name.

>>92532652
Duuh-dail.. dail hydra!

>dad is hardcore conservative
>his best friend is a hardcore liberal
>they can both see past this and be close friends
I wish more people were like them

>>92543250
>white privilege
>be a white person walking through the ghettos
>heyo whitey come here!
>get murdered because you're white

>>92543401
Invariably. Any metric you find whites outdo blacks as a measure you can point to for white privilege, you can generally find (East) Asians, will be further along the line drawn from Black to white..

Everybody always talks about how the cops shoot a fuckload of blacks, they never talk about how they barely shoot the Asians (From the good countries).

>>92532652
Cap was right in the films, when he said to Antifa Red Skull that a world without flags was "not my future". I advise anyone who thinks we should have open borders and open hearts to visit my city in England, where Muslim immigrants and 2nd/3rd gen have been gang raping so many white girls the police found over 1400 victims in just a few years. Muslim men make up less than 3% of the entire UK but commit over 30% of rapes, and make up 80+% of all paedophile/hebephile grooming gangs. That's what the "anti-racists" enable when they attack patriotism and healthy nationalism, and try to silence anyone who stands up for victims with their "you're a racist" spiel. I love Cap, but if he becomes as cucked and pathetic as the SJWS make everything, I'm done.

>>92543435
When my great grandfather came over they "highly recommended" they change his name to his profession instead of his super German name.

>>92543507
And don't forget Asians are far more racist in terms of culture. They're even guiltier of more attempted genocides than white people. Sure, Nazis are the most famous, but Mongolians hold the world record for genocides attempted.

>>92533630
>>92536374
Oh they were there. Like a cancerous cell, ready to blossom into a full blown tumor, they waited. This page shows us the early symptoms, and we ignored it till the cancer spread too far to ever be cured.

>>92543519
That comic is from almost 5 years ago. Cap has always been liberal, he called Cable's socialist island utopia the perfect outcome of the American dream

>>92543579
>a comic about their dangers of letting the media manipulate you is a SJW comic
Please read comics before posting on /co/

>>92543495
Ya well he was walking through the ghettos so his fault. That's the comfort I get from my views, the people who hold each ideology are more likely to be the ones who get the reality of their worldview.

I mean, no matter how multicultural the world gets, racist people who think homogeneous societies are better will still live in homogeneous communities, because the demographic make up of America has little relevance on each house in a similar vein to the individual/population thing I was talking about. People who genuinely think multiculturalism is a boon and that different cultures enrich their lives, well they're more likely to live in diverse communities.

So if I'm right, and multiculturalism is terrible, the people who get burnt from it are, proportionally going to mostly people who espouse the values of it. And if I'm wrong, the people who live their dull, enriched lives, they're people like me. People are somewhat (Not entirely) likely to get what their own reality deserves relative to actual reality. It's beautiful to me, and the realisation made me actually like politics again.

But ya White privilege isn't anything like that because blacks get murdered in the ghetto all the time. White privilege is people not assuming you're maybe that ghetto trash doing the murdering. Which, as I've clarified, isn't a morally wrong assumption in my eyes.

>>92543607
Anything not by the original author is just official fanfiction. I don't know what issues you're talking about so maybe it is by them though.

>>92543725
They aren't but when he was created Captain America was A New Deal Democrat that voted for FDR twice. If you'd like to know more about this character you supposedly love I'd suggest actually reading a fucking comic book.

>>92532652
Because humans have an inherent dislike of everything that is different from itself.

>>92543796
I never said I liked Captain America.

>>92543607
>Cap has always been liberal
Not according to Marvel. Didn't you know Cap is a Nazi?

>>92543839
My post was clearly a response to someone else, I assumed that you were him responding. My offer still stands on actually reading a fucking book though.

>>92532652
Because of cultural incompatibilities .

>>92543897
At least they're sticking with the socialist that he's always been just gotta dial back that nationalism a wee bit.

>>92533789
>revolt against the UK over fucking taxes
MUH FREEDOM FIGHTERS
>revolt against the UK over 400 years of being religiously, socially and racially discriminated in your own homeland
DAMN TERRORISTS, UK DINDU NUFFIN

>>92543914
I'm not a fan of hero comic books though for basically the reason I've mentioned. Past the original run it's all just official fanfiction. And because they're too profitable to truly die, they're too profitable to actually have consequences. I still read some though.

Good stories have an actual end.

>>92541218
>Master race
>gets easily manipulated by propaganda

Kek, glad you're going extinct desu.

>>92543993
You are only freedom fighters when you win.

>>92544078
But Ireland got their freedom yet Protestshits still spew out the terrorist card.

>>92544037
I ain't white by any White Supremacists reckoning friend.

>>92544166
So you're anything but Rhinelander German?

>>92532652
If you stop to wonder why the Irish were hated, and why they stopped being hated, the whole thing falls apart. I respect his idealism, but that's all it is. Soldiers fight for the peace, comfort and superiority of their own nations before they fight for others.

>>92544206
You know it.

>>92544210
That's great but in the context of the story Nuke is brilliant manipulated in to killing civilians by his corrupt higher ups looking to start a war.

>>92544298
I wonder what the opinion is on Norwegians, seeing as I have Italian (honorary "Aryans") in me.

>>92543383
Then you just have different provinces wanting to be independent. See: Wales, Scotland, Ireland. The universe of politics is fractal: there's no difference so fine that people won't discriminate because of it. Source: I'm from an area of the US that's 99.9% white, and people here hate other people because they came from one ridge over.

>>92544301
Well it wouldn't be a cape comic if you couldn't radicalize your political opponents into super villains. Although it's somewhat ironic that these fictional depictions are there to be punched in the face really hard. The same way /pol/ gets excited about a Muslim going on a killing spree, so to do Marvel's liberal writers fantasize about fighting off the violent right wingers. They adhere to a might makes right philosophy they would vehemently argue against in real life.

>>92544549
Well actually in the very next issue Captain America is attacked by by a liberal reporter who Fake Newses™ for going too easy on Nuke by making shit up.

>>92544459
Yeah, unless you want the continent of Africa to be split into about a few hundred cultural regions, the Americas to be split up and the land returned to the Native peoples, and the Middle East to get even more fractured, that's not going to happen.

>>92543544
That only really applied to the Germans or the Celts. The later only in some cases. Rogers -if you look up the name origin - is almost entirely Anglo-Saxon. No, this was a case of a typical Marvel SJW writer trying to push an anti-white agenda by using a false equivalency. Rogers is not an Irish name, but it's the only white ethnic group to ever be discriminated against. So the writer was lazy in their straw-man argument and rightly assumed that their audience would be equally lazy.

>>92544792
>Yeah, unless you want the continent of Africa to be split into about a few hundred cultural regions
We have that already.

>>92544957
But Steve Rogers Captain America was Irish since his creation?

>>92533012

The problem is in the way that identity is build, the self-image always depend for the other´s feedback (not only ethnnic oe cultural ones)

>>92543993
More like
>actually fight the UK in a mostly conventional war and forcibly kick their asses out
vs
>Plant bombs like pussies in your own country with little regard for collateral damage

>>92545388
The Colonial army stole food and fought with asymmetric tactics. Most of the American revolution was the colonials getting their asses handed to them, until the broke a truce and launched a surprise attack on unsuspecting members of the UK supply lines.

>>92545607
Still salty britbong?

>>92540169
Wrong. If anything America is bi-cultural. Black American culture is notably different from mainstream American culture, even if not all blacks follow it and some non-blacks do.

>>92545641
Still salty about getting your asses kicked by the Vietnamese?

>>92545388
From the British stand point we fought like mongrels. The use of our guerilla tactics was seen as cowardly and they were appalled by our use of cover while firing against the enemy. Also they viewed are use of Molly Pitchers as barbaric.

>>92545685
Not even american, but the USA didn't suffer any defeat in Vietnam.

What happened is that they signed a paper after fighting, left and didn't stay to ensure the treat was respected.

>>92545799
They got forced out by the Vietnamese, much like the French before them.

>>92545837
The main reason was that there wasn't much benefit for the US to continue fighting in Vietnam in the first place since they basically came in as a favor to France and because the Vietcong were commies.

>>92538472
>>92538703
Exactly. It's almost like multiculturalism leads to a atomized society.

>>92545892
That doesn't mean the VC didn't win. Especially when the entire thing was caused by American interventionism in the first place.

>>92545959
And that's great.

>>92541190
>Which EVERY SINGLE piece of evidence shows homogenous societies are better at.

What actual evidence of this is there?

I mean, if you're just taking random periods of peace and saying "look, it was nice here and there was only one race!" then it would be pretty easy to do the opposite and find as many if not more instances of times when ethnically homogeneous areas were in conflict. Take Japan, for example. That country is as ethnically homogeneous as it comes, yet it was stricken by internal conflict for the majority of its history.

Hell, I know I have a far better standard of living and am much safer than my ancestors were back when this place was ethnically homogeneous.

>>92545837
>They got forced out by the Vietnamese
How did they got forced out when they left by signing a treat which was favourable to their side?

>>92545994
So they won by disrespecting a peace treaty and the USA which had a new liberal leader didn't want to go back there to enforce it?

Also American interventionism? Did you forget that China and the Soviet Union were also in it? Or that there was a considerable part of the population who didn't want to go communist?

>>92543021
I mean, statistically you're a lot more likely to die in a shooting in the us than an Islamic terror attack, but it's probably the reverse in Europe because there aren't many guns

>>92537316
The vast majority of white people have Irish in them at this point. I'm not sure if they started breeding with others or were accepted first, but either way they stopped Irish and started just being white.

>>92546022
I can't be asked doing much more because it's 02:27 here and I'm sorta planning on sleeping soon, but I'll point ya in the direction of what I'm on about before I check out.

http://archive.boston.com/news/globe/ideas/articles/2007/08/05/the_downside_of_diversity/

"But a massive new study, based on detailed interviews of nearly 30,000 people across America, has concluded just the opposite. Harvard political scientist Robert Putnam -- famous for "Bowling Alone," his 2000 book on declining civic engagement -- has found that the greater the diversity in a community, the fewer people vote and the less they volunteer, the less they give to charity and work on community projects. In the most diverse communities, neighbors trust one another about half as much as they do in the most homogenous settings. The study, the largest ever on civic engagement in America, found that virtually all measures of civic health are lower in more diverse settings."

Now these studies have been replicated by people looking to disprove them to no avail.

My main problem with people who espouse diversity as undeniably good is that they treat this like a religion. They don't even address this opposing evidence, that maybe diversity is not our strength. They use their synonyms for heathen, the various "phobias" and "ists", basically just bigot in all it's forms to shut down the conversation so that they don't have to. Which in reality isn't even anything, it's just saying "You don't agree with me, I don't have to care about what you say", which is an incredibly dogmatic way of living, which I guess humans are predisposed to. If people want to argue against studies like this, I'm happier that than I am with right wing retards I see who can't even tell me why they believe what they believe, although I of course prefer those to the left wing useful idiots because at least they somewhat help my cause.

>>92547129
Space ran out, it's not just about safety, it's about quality of life. Saying you're safer than your ancestors despite racial homogeneity is incredibly disingenuous when you consider all the other factors that have made you that safe, although I don't think you meant it in that way.

>>92547129
>>92547194
But don't you think those "phobias" and "ists" are the reason for the drop in community functions? I mean if you're saying "I'm not going to go to the volunteer housing project because there are too many Somalians" that's exactly what one of those "phobias/ists" are.

>>92547992
And?
What does that change?

>>92536708
i do not support /pol or nazi's, but the jews are the cause for 100% of the worlds problems. Allah will end their tyranny some day.

>>92548062
That if people put aside their bigotry and celebrated our differences America would be a better place?
Your argument is basically "it's okay to be bigoted because when bigots are around their own people everyone's happy"

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>>92548260
>That if people put aside their bigotry and celebrated our differences America would be a better place?
How?

It's never happened before. It can safely be assumed that it's against human nature, especially as there are genetic markers which indicate a propensity to racism.

And even then, you're only saying a solution to a problem that doesn't even have to exist. You're saying, if this happened, it would be as good as a homogeneous society. So your vision at it's very best is just mine at it's worst.

Sowell was right. People have been brainwashed into thinking diversity is good by simple repetition. Any amount of thought into it and you'd realise that it's total bullshit. Have you ever been out with a friend and thought "Wow, I wish this guy liked different stuff then me". Been playing a video game with a mate and thought "wouldn't my life be better if this guy was into that football which I hate instead of these videogames I love". Ever asked someone to put on a tune and thought "Wow I hope he puts on some of that death metal I cannot stand".

Your second line, my response to that, and my continuation of the above is name one actual benefit of a diverse population in a country. So many people rave about diversity yet this seemingly simple question is met with silence until the eventual answer of "food". Maybe the odd "It makes life interesting" by people who realise what a bullshit cop-out food is, which is against Cap up there's vision of what people want. People want to live in quiet times, not in interesting times, as JFK will tell you the Chinese will tell you.

So the question stands. The benefit of diversity. Please tell me it, because nobody has ever been able to, and I'd quite like to know.

>>92537865
>Thing is they were legal, not criminals
>the Irish
Do people even learn U.S History in high school any more?

>>92543897
He's not a nazi you fucking casual.

>>92548260
>That if people put aside their bigotry and celebrated our differences America would be a better place?
I'd like to point out the hilarity in saying "Maybe if we were all the same we'd get along better" in response to that post.

>>92548602
America is it happening anon, you can fight it all you want but America is a melting pot. We celebrate the rebellion of our Southern neighbors every year, every city has a Chinatown, we get drunk because an Irishman killed a bunch of snakes, there's a massive swedish parade in New Jersey every year. We've tried having segregated cities anon and you know what happens? Greenwood happens.
>benefit of diversity
Korean Mexican fusion food.
>>92548978
How is that what I said?

>>92548759
Conservatives think education is "liberal brainwashing" I shit you not.

>>92543574
Nazis were less than a century ago and were relevant for shaping much of the modern world. Mongolia did that nearly 9 centuries ago and haven't done anything since. The most shit I get for that is jokes about me being a savage invader in highschool after World History.

>>92549131
>>benefit of diversity
>Korean Mexican fusion food
As I thought. Not a single actual reason.

As if we couldn't make Korean/Mexican food ourselves without importing millions of people who immensely lower your social capital.

I really want to know why you admit that your views have no real upside yet cling to them anyways. I can point out many downsides to diversity. I can point out the partition of India and any other balkanisation, the lowered social capital from the studies above, the situation with the Kurds in the middle east, the race wars in South Africa, the racial tensions all over America. And really the best you can come up with is non-reason that doesn't even require a diverse population.

Oh well. I wasn't really expecting a valid answer to the question. Like I say, I've never had one before. Enjoy your melting pot. I'm not American thankfully, but I wish you all the best with it. Maybe one day you'll actually be able to tell me a benefit rather than just assuring me it's happening though it's bad.

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>>92549500
How is having dozens of new holidays to celebrate every year and new food not benefits? And if you are trying to minimize the impact of food, that's why we have an America anyway.

>>92532652

Because the america captain is talking about is imaginary and dead. Irish filtered in because they shared a common trait among other americans, they were white.

The immigrants we are getting now are not, they have no traits in common with americans. They do not have american ideals, they do not have faith, and they have no loyalty to america.

They are invaders, and this ham fisted bullshit "we are the world" crap is going to kill us.

>>92549500
>benefit of diversity
The many people I've met and befriended with different cultures and beliefs that I never would have known and learned about were it not for America being so culturally diverse. Life is a lot more than politics.

>>92549735
>How is having dozens of new holidays to celebrate every year and new food not benefits? And if you are trying to minimize the impact of food, that's why we have an America anyway.
Again, these do not require a diverse population, and the first one is especially stupid. Why are you being intentionally stupid?
>>92549942
And you can't make friends with people of your own culture? As I have shown with EVIDENCE, social capital of society decreases with diversity. Your argument holds little weight when it's either less than you would have had with homogeneity, or else you're an outlier.

>>92550169
How would those foods and cultural connections being made without either immigration into a culture or immigration out of a culture and then back into it?

>>92550360
This may surprise you.

I have never seen a Mexican in my life.
They don't come around here for whatever reason.

I've had plenty of Taco's, I have eaten many, many wraps. I have had some nice chilli con carne. And I have still never seen a single Mexican, the only south American I knew was some Brazilian dude over for a year as part of his degree.

Hell if you want you can look up any recipe in the world on the internet right now. They won't come over and cook it in your kitchen, you can do that yourself. And, besides, in a pre-internet world, the spice trade was established long ago, it brought spices and such used in foreign cuisine over. It didn't require immigration.

And again, if you really think this food which we both know you actually eat less than once a week is a fair trade for higher crime rates, lowered social capital, depressed wages, etc.

Know that you follow a dogma. An even stupider one than the devout religious. I mean an evolution denying christian might have some insanely stupid views with no basis in reality, but at least his stupid views entail an eternal reward for him. By your own admission here, with no other way to defend diversity than this sorry attempt, you cling to a vision with no basis in reality which brings you absolutely nothing but grief, yet you still cling to it, knowing that.

>>92551317
But you realize that food came to your country because someone either went to Mexico or came from Mexico. I mean it was there in a pre Internet world. People move its the way it's been forever.
>trying to use the spice trade as an argument that immigration is bad
Anon, the spice trade is immigration. That's how mass immigration started.
Also I've eaten Mexican food three times since yesterday.

>>92532652
The MSM wants you to forget that racism against the Irish was ever a thing and that black people are the only group to experience HARD TIMES.

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>>92537191
"hired"

>>92550169
http://www.diversitas.co.nz/Portals/25/Docs/Diversity%20Matters.pdf
Here's some hard stats though. Studies show that in the business sector companies with the highest ethnic/racial diversity perform 35% above the national median in the U.S. and in more homogenized countries like the UK the relationship between higher ethnic diversity and success is even more pronounced. Am I saying more diversity is directly responsible? No, but there's a clear relationship there. Do you know why the research shows that social capital is reduced by diversity? It's because people are instinctively afraid and against things different from them. But that doesn't mean anything as diversity being bad in itself, it means people just think it is. To shrink away from diversity and hope that people neatly file themselves away together in their own segregated areas is just cowardice from an issue that won't go away. People used to fear things like trains too, and now everyone drives a car.
On your last point, who knows if I could have had more friends if I stuck to befriending only those in my own culture? But then I would never have met my best friend, or the many people who see the world differently from me and never have had the pleasure of knowing them. As I said, there's a lot more to life than statistics. For what it's worth, I can obviously can't speak for the values and experiences you've had growing up wherever you were born, but I hope you too see those from people who don't share yours.

>>92550169
>>92554074
Additonally, I'd like to point out millennials are the future of America, and they have way different values from those that have been shaping the country so far. For instance, they're far more racially diverse than any other generation in America. The statistics you keep citing were taken back in 2001, when Baby Boomers were still the largest percentage of Americans, who have long-since been overtaken.

>>92551317
>I've had plenty of Taco's, I have eaten many, many wraps. I have had some nice chilli con carne. And I have still never seen a single Mexican

AHAHAHAHAH this retard thinks Taco Bell is real Mexican food

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>>92545043
>the self-image always depend for the other's feedback

You couldn't be more wrong about that. But even if you were right, self-image literally doesn't matter at all.

>>92532652
America's political system is already fractured into two sides that encompass opnions on a wide range of issues compounded together. The fact that actual things like making America more reliant on domestic growth are part of the same platform as pro-net neutrality and slashing educational funding make voting not an easy choice on what you want to happen but instead what you're willing to give up for what you want.

>>92532652
Because the mainstream media has spent Obamas entire presidential lifetime making it us vs them, those eight years really divided us.