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More Nick Spencer's Captain America
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Oh I am not looking forward to this. Friendly reminder that this is my first time reading.
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Also couldn't do a phone trick so please leave a bump.
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I'm already full page spreaded out
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There's a rift between X-Men and Inhumans?
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>>92517800
This
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>>92518025
Yes. It was stupid, pointless, and it's over now. Don't ask.
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>>92518042
Thanks
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>Thanks
No problem.
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>>92518083
I'm sure I'll read it eventually. Been slowly going through ANAD. Just found it funny given Ike Perlmutter. What's next, Inhumans vs X-Men? Let's just get rid of any subtlety and have the Inhumans literally kill the X-Men
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>>92517670
Carol did nothing wrong.
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>>92517785
Check out Illuminating comics after you finish the first third of this clusterfuck
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>>92518132
>What's next, Inhumans vs X-Men? Let's just get rid of any subtlety and have the Inhumans literally kill the X-Men
I hope you're just being facetious right now, because if not, boy do I have news for you...
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>>92518205
I was half joking, it'd be retarded for them to do that.
>boy do I have news for you
...right?
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>>92518176
Agreed.
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This that Thanos using a fucking gun? Since when does Thanos use a fucking gun?
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AND SHE-HULK DIES WITH RHODEY OFF SCREEN?!
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I'm already mad.
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>>92518452
This might spoil something, but fuck it:

http://illuminatingcomics.tumblr.com/post/159822512625/posting-this-page-unedited-wouldve-been-funnier
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Now Civil War's Captain America tie-ins were awesome while the event was crap so I hope it sticks to that
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kek

Fuck, I forgot about the FCBD issue. Oh well
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>>92518555
My bad, I meant to post this:
http://illuminatingcomics.tumblr.com/post/160331373780/well-that-put-my-mind-to-rest-carols-war-starts

But yeah, the actual encounter was in the FCBD thing
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HAHAHAHAHAHA I miss Genis
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Holy shit Steven
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http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/IVX_Vol_1
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Hydra Cap doesn't fucking play
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http://i.imgur.com/TP0zh.gif
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It was awful too. The first issue was okay, then it just got steadily worse as it went on, pulled a Bishop level character assassination on Emma, and pretended that the Inhumans were in the right thr entire time. The worse thing was Death of X, showing how and why cyclops died/became MutantHitler, and did not make a lick of cohesive sense. Marvel in the ANAD era kept talking about how awful Cyclops was to those poor inhumans, and nothing he even did was close to Hitler level. IvX also retoactively made DoX worse.
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Here

https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/90571222/

https://desuarchive.org/co/thread/90595870/
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Sorry, had to let my roommate in

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What the fuck is Death of X?
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>>92518897
Thanks, but I'm not at Inhumans and X-Men with my ANAD reading yet. Bookmarked them.
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>Thanks, but I'm not at Inhumans and X-Men with my ANAD reading yet. Bookmarked them.
This.
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Set in the eight month gap between Secret Wars and Extraordinary X-Men, Death of X depicts the start of tensions between mutants and The Inhumans (regarding the lethal effects of Terrigen Mist to the former), as well as finally explaining what happened to Cyclops —and why he's disappeared— in the interim.
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>mutants and The Inhumans (regarding the lethal effects of Terrigen Mist to the former
>lethal effects of Terrigen Mist to the former
Jesus christ Marvel
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>>92518915
It was the story of how Cyclops died in the 6-8 month gap after Secret Wars. Want the spoilers?

The mutants learn than the terrigan cloud is killing mutants aftee they go the Muir Island and find hundreds of Maddrox's dead. Cyclops coughs, and they decide to telepathically warn the world. There are two clouds, and Cyclops uses Alchemy (the retired mutant) to render one of the clouds inert. Cyclops tells the Inhuman royalty that they will not back down until the other cloud is stopped, and Medusa orders Black Bolt to kill him. He is melted, and the last few pages reveal that Scott died back on Muir island from terrigan exposure in Emma's arms. The Cyclops that stopped the cloud and was executed was actually a psychic projection from Emma. Then in IvX, Emma goes batshit crazy from losing her lover.
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>>92519126
I saw this post in Gamefaqs

I'd say the very poor attempt at making him "the villain" in favor of the Avengers, Wolverine's Xmen and Inhumans only made him more popular

AvX was meant to be "Cyclops is a villain", but ended up being a lying Wolverine to spark a battle, a military style dictatorship Avengers invading and attacking Cyclops home, Stark causing Cyclops to become possessed. Possessed Cyclops bringing world peace and ending world hunger (what a villain) before finally snapping after many attacks from the Avengers and finally had the very thing happen Cyclops wanted from the start (Hope gains the Phoenix force) just to prove him right all along.

The we get his resistence period, in which everyone looks the other way while Sentinels are killing mutants again except for Cyclops and his team. Wolverine and Beast even admitted to hiding in their mansion because they didn't want to anger SHIELD (while Cyclops actually honors Xaviers dream by going out and protecting ALL mutants and not just hiding with a small portion of them). This entire run they are constantly hunting him while he is constantly helping them (just to make it clearer who held a grudge and who didn't)

Finally we get a killer cloud from the inhumans, which not only killed mutants but they never bothered to examine its potential results long term on humans or consider if humanity wanted to be turned and somehow Cyclops is the villain for wanting to destroy this poisonous cloud instead of using it to forcefully turn humans into inhumans. The arc ends with Blackbolt murdering Cyclops for destroying the cloud (granted a psychic projection, but point stands)

Yeah, wonder why Cyclops and his Xmen's popularity kept improving while the Inhumans didn't.
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>>92519139
http://i.imgur.com/pztAdJp.gif

Who was the writer?

>>92519180
Wait, Cyclops was supposed to be seen in the wrong at any point outside of Xavier's death?
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Lemire

>>92519240
>Wait, Cyclops was supposed to be seen in the wrong at any point outside of Xavier's death?
Yes Cyclops is even more popular now after his death.
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>>92519269
Tbh I never liked Cyclops until AvX
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The plot is getting more convoluted by the second
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>>92519301
>Tbh I never liked Cyclops until AvX
I did. I was a equal fan of 616 Logan and Scott.
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Oh boy, this is about to be a soapbox arc isn't it?
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>>92519269
Lemire and Soule "both" wrote DoX and IvX, but it really seems like Lemire wrote DoX as a "fuck it I'm done" since he only has a few issues of Thanos left at Marvel, and because Soule was the only talking about and defending it.

I firmly believe that Cyclops' primary evolution was being right, because everytime they tried to make him a villain, his righteousness only intensified.
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>>92519425
*defending IvX, whoops.
Soule compared the gigantic cloud that was killing and sterilizing mutants to a peanut allergy.
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>>92519338
I was never a fan of X-Men. My first exposure was Ultimate which left me sour until I read Aaron's Wolverine
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>Lemire quit
How was the rest of his Marvel work? I liked Old Man Logan
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>I was never a fan of X-Men. My first exposure was Ultimate which left me sour until I read Aaron's Wolverine
I kinda miss him. But he needed a good rest. i guess OML is a good replacement.
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>>92519487
>How was the rest of his Marvel work? I liked Old Man Logan
Moon knight was also good.
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>all the black characters meet together
Is this racist? This feels racist
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>Blade couldn't make it
>A man down
This is a regular thing they do? Secret Black Illuminati?
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>>92519240
Charles "Soulless" Soule and Jeff "I really wish I were dead right now!" Lemire. Honestly, I mostly blame Soule for DoX and IvX. He was always defending those worthless inhumans, the fuck.
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>>92519487
Moon Knight and OML were alright, but his creator owned work is still a thousand times better.
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I've never read any of it
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>Jim Rhodes was Iron Man
No one liked your Iron Man 2.0 Spencer
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Here a Fee mount and Blade code gog.com C76BD-81BA7-B1243-E329F
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>>92519746
I vaguely remember this game
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>I vaguely remember this game
I never play it before.
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Essex County, The Underwater Welder, The Nobody, Sweet Tooth and Descender all range from good to great. Avoid Plutona and Trillium though.
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Why is Hank with the Inhumans? Nothing in this event makes sense
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>>92519946
Cool, wrote them down. Thanks
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Now I had this next part explained to me in a thread so I'm seeing it unfold now. That's clearly not Cho
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>we'd like to talk about how you can no longer turn into the Hulk
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>>92520011
I do find it insulting that they seem to be ignoring the events of Greg Pak's book.

It's stated that's completely cured and yet here Bendis is saying that Banner has been taking medicine not to Hulk.
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>>92520043
Marquez Carol looks hot.
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>>92520064
> Bendis is saying that Banner has been taking medicine not to Hulk
This is the first time this has been mentioned to me, but I guess that's what I get for not reading it myself.
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>>92518356
It was explained in Ewing's Ultimates. A lot of the stupidity of CWII had to get explained in Ewing's Ultimates.
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>>92520136
>This is the first time this has been mentioned to me, but I guess that's what I get for not reading it myself.
Pak Gave banner a good send off in totally awesome hulk
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>>92520141
I've read almost everything for that except the new issue, I don't remember it explaining why he had a gun. Let alone seeing him with a gun in Ultimates
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>>92519982
>Why is Hank with the Inhumans?
He joined up with them at the end of DoX. Why wouldn't he join the people that killed Cyclops?
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>city has law against loitering on corners to lessen the chance of drug dealing
>cops handling people breaking the law
>is supposed to be seen as negative
What did Spencer mean by this?
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>>92520190
He was depowered/weakened from his re-entry into the multiverse. That's the gun he grabbed off of the Shi'ar guards that were shooting at him in one of the Ultimates issues. Same design and everything. That's also how he found out about the cosmic cube in the first place.

Ewing's Ultimates also explains what the Celestial Destructor was.
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>Putting away criminals I understand but going after criminals? Too far homie
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>assaults a cop
>Sam pissed
>Nick Spencer writing
Oh boy

>>92520312
I remember the Destructor being explained, vaguely remembering the gun now. Thanks anon
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>stops the cops
I fucking knew it. For that one anon that was asking, this is why Spencer's politics makes him a cunt.
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Thanks
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>Thanks
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Why does this series just seem to be Sam Gets Owned The Series
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>leaves the man who assaulted a cop in front of him to go free
Sam's no hero
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>>92521020
Thanks
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>Thanks
This.
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>Even Cap is against Sam
Damn straight
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If I just look at the pictures can I still follow the story?
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Even if he could turn into the Hulk why would you show up with this many power houses let alone people?
>we need to keep the guy that turns into a raging monster calm
>let's bring an army
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>>92521100
Reminder that one of the covers for this series is an """homage""" to Captain America Comics #1 with Steve as Hitler.
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>>92521206
We passed it already. >>92500607
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This is the dumbest fucking thing I've read in years.
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Is this the worst thing Bendis has ever written? Because I'm having trouble thinking of anything worse. Ultimate End doesn't count, that's in it's own teir.
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>>92521388
>Is this the worst thing Bendis has ever written?
>the actual worst thing he's ever written doesn't count
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>Black Cat is still evil
Fuck Slott
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>>92521407
Correct
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unf
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Is this the relevant to the current political landscape part Bendis talked about when the event was announced?

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/real-world-issues-marvel-universe-civil-war-ii/story?id=39575194
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Someone please kill me
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>>92521606
>Someone please kill me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJ3PV_P9zcA
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>>92521637
I see bitch in your eyes
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Oh here's the relevance.
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>>92521678
>I see bitch in your eyes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vVXIK1xCRpY

RIP
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How did we go from a great event like Secret Wars to this pigshit?
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>>92521750
Bendis, always Bendis
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>>92521750
>Secret Wars
>great event
lmao
Go back to writing your Image shit, Hackman
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>>92521798
It was decent, tie-ins were best part
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Oh man, four issues in and we're finally getting to the fight
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Or not
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Something about this page is really bugging me
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>Miles wins with Venom Blast in 616 too
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>>92522071
Thanks
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>>92522142
>Thanks
This.
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>92522248
Comedy.
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Tomorrow we finish Civil War II and someone helps me with the reading order past it I hope
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>>92522248
Fifty bucks say this actually happens but it's the recently introduced good Steve because Spencer is a trollmaster like that.
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>>92522248
I'm so dead set that the Secret Empires is going to have a twist where Miles and Black Widow kill the GOOD Captain America, not the Hydra one
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>>92522275
>punishing crimes before they are committed
God, I've seen this played out to death.
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>>92522248
Get used to this OP. Marvel has used this spread in at least 5 other books
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>>92518077
good ridance it hit ohio state, go wolverines.
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>>92519614
> traced DAZ figures
when will this end
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>>92519959
> someone remembers Dakota North, the Ms. Tree ripoff who failed so badly
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>>92520363
>this is why Spencer's politics makes him a cunt
Go look up "broken windows" as a policy and come back when you understand the problems there were with it.
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>>92522511
5?
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>>92523208
>crime causes more crime
Exactly why the cops should be stopping street corner crimes and Spencer clearly disagrees with that. What's your point?
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>>92520312
I believe that was actually the New Avengers tie-in that named them. Only recently in Ultimates^2 did he reveal their larger place in the cosmic plans of The First Firmament
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>>92519487
Moon Knight is fantastic.
His X-Men was shit.
Didn't read Thanos.
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>>92520011
I remember when I had hope this was actually Maestro, gone conquering the multiverse after Contest of Champions.
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>>92524745
It appeared in a few more issues of Civil War 2, the Bendis Spiderman issue (or two), and as a faded background in one of the Captain America: Steve Rogers issues.
Apparently this picture is from Civil War II 5,6,7, and Spiderman 9
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>>92525689
Remember.
Each time it was used, it was 2 pages eaten from the total of the issue.

This is why I hate current Marvel, and furthermore the act of copy-pasting panels for beats.
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>>92525349
The program's premise wasn't founded. It was bad science and did more harm than good. That's the point.
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Okay so basically for Civil War 2, Tony's the good guy?
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>>92526048
Not really. Tony was acting like a raging fucking moron they entire time.
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>>92526048
His side is correct, but his methods/motivation are so awful he's just as shitty as Carol.
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>>92519487
Ultimate X-Men's a really terrible intro to X-Men
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>>92518356
Bendis likely didn't have any good explanation for it. Ewing had to do damage control.

Similar thing happened with She-Hulk in this comic. Kelly Thompson had to do damage control by explaining that She-Hulk was in a coma due to Thanos, because Bendis implied She-Hulk could fall into a coma (or die as originally planned) by a fucking missle to the tits.

In fact if you looked at Bendis' tumblr you can see that he intended the missile to be the thing that puts She-Hulk in a coma/or gets killed by, and that the missile War Machine brought along was intended to be strong enough to hurt Thanos, which makes no sense.
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>>92521297
Yeah, it was something that would be ripped apart on a regular basis by 90's Wizard.
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>>92521388
I would say it's definitely the absolute worst of the big events he's written. It even pales in comparison to Millar's Civil War (which I didn't like) and even Soule's Civil War from Secret Wars (which was ok). You know there's a major problem when the "war" fighting happens by the fourth issue. Every choice seems contrived to make it obvious they just want to get from point A to point B (point B being some fucking dubious goal) by sleepwriting. Why does War Machine die? To give a "motivation" to Tony and Carol (and because the CW trailer might've implied War Machine died!). Why does She-Hulk fall into a coma? To give drama. Why does She-Hulk do absolutely nothing after being revived, despite being a part of the reason the war gradually started? To promote a new series, true believer! Why are the Guardians of the Galaxy involved with this? Hey look! It's those guys from the movies! And they're stuck on Earth! Why does it matter that Ulysses is a precog when there's mutant precogs? BECAUSE BUY INHUMANS.

>>92521407
I'm still debating if it's worse than Ultimate End though.
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>>92521798
>I hate things that /co/ tells me to hate because I don't actually read comics
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>>92526048
Only by comparison to Carol, but his motivation makes no fucking sense. He gets upset that Rhodey dies and screams at Carol that he warned her about it, yet if you go back pages in the exact same issue, he didn't even warn her about that! He warned about Ulysses seeing a hero as a threat.

To Spencer's credit he actually addressed that, unlike Bendis.
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