Archer Dreamland

For my part, I've enjoyed this season enough to want a second season of Dreamland, or at least part of one. They could easily do a Red Scare story with the late forties/early fifties Hollywood setting.

>>92513213
Agreed. Dreamland isa nice improvement from the last couple seasons.

>>92513380
Yeah, it seems like the creative team has really made strides with doing a serialized story. Plus, the art has been really good this season.

>>92513112
The new setting is a breath of fresh air. One of the problems I had with Archer as it went on is that I was getting tired of the characters and their interactions, they were getting stale. Putting them all in a different setting with different roles is nice.

>>92513112

I wasn't really feeling it until these last couple of episodes but the last couple have been great. Almost as good as the first few seasons good.

>>92513482
The only hitch is I wish Pam was still a woman.

>>92513528
I'll be honest, I haven't sat down and watched it thoroughly, my roommates been streaming it and I've watched an episode here and there.
Pam's a man in it?

>>92513448
I get the feeling that the've wanted to do something like this for a while, the last season sort of eased us into this sort of setting with the "modern day" private detectives in LA set-up, which got very noireish whenever Veronica Dean was involved, particularly at the end.

>>92513482
I'm glad it's given them the opportunity to try out some new references and running gags. I also like that some of the reimagined characters have added depth to the main cast, Krieger especially. The season shows that Archer is incredibly self-aware in his subconscious.

I didn't even know this show had a new season until Woolie mentioned it on his L.A. noire LP. Are the new update episodes on Hulu?

>>92513580
Yeah, they're a bit cagey about it (they haven't once referred to Pam by a pronoun or her first name, just as "Poovey") but the flash forwards/daydreams of Poovey's life with the chinese women makes it clear that he's a biological male.

>>92513580
She's kept deliberately ambiguous, but as a crooked cop in 1940s L.A. she's a man, yes. She's basically Russell Crowe's character in L.A. Confidential.

>>92513676
That or he wants to be. He apparently wants to live to be 1100 years old.

>>92513635
I haven't heard from anyone that it is, but if you can get ahold of it it's been really good.

>>92513676
Makes a certain amount of sense considering that Poovey's a police officer and it seems unlikely that they'd have a woman on the force.
>>92513712
White wasn't really crooked, just violent and willing to take liberties with the law. The commissioner was a dirty cop though.

>>92513739
Poovey is holding a baby. The baby is one and Poovey is 100.

What if the next season is archer's comatose dream of being a 70's vice squad cop and does Archer Vice the right way?

>>92513773
That's true, but they're both the muscle and have a soft spot for abused women.

>>92513799
I'd watch it. Part of the problem with Vice was that the advertising was straight up Miami Vice but in execution it was all over the place. Although it did support my theory that Archer takes place in a bizarre version of the late 70s/early 80s.

>>92513864
Actually we do have a good idea what year it is in the archer universe, Woodhouse's grave stated 1894-19XX (last two were covered by flowers) but Woodhouse was also stated to be over 100 meaning his funeral was between 1995-1999.

>>92513864
Politically and stylistically the "modern day" setting of the show is 60s/70s, but technology and pop culture is modern day. Chronologically the show would have to take place in the 60s/70s period, though (Sterling was born during WWII and he can't be older than his late 30s).

>>92513864
Yeah, the strongest episodes were whenever they were out of the house and trying to move the coke. The one in Florida, the one through the south, and the two-parter in south America were all pretty solid, but most of it still felt like standard Archer stuff.

>>92514026
They also make a few jokes about the ambiguity of the time period.

>>92514026
I had a ridiculous idea that explained the whole thing. My fan theory was that Archer takes place in the same universe as Bioshock Infinite. Columbia is just floating around spreading Tears all over the place and people are stealing technology and pop culture from the "future". The reason Burt Reynolds looks so old for the 70s is that he has Tear cancer.

I honestly say the show is completely stale and boring. All the running gags suck and the writing is dull and uninspired. 90% of the dialog is running gags that were never funny in the first place.

"Hey look at me I'm eating a hotdog and throwing it away! What? I was hungry"

"What? Shut up! okay what were you saying?"

(random historical rant that has nothing to do with the plot and is only spoken to waste time)

>>92513773
Well I had assumed that she was Ping'ing it up, pretending to be a man because the force wouldn't take a woman. And that people like Figgis are PRETTY sure she did but there's a kind of don't ask don't tell going on. But I suppose it doesn't really matter either way.

>>92514096
See I just thought Hotline Miami/Mother Russia Bleeds just because the U.S.S.R. still exists.

>>92514116
You're entitled to an opinion even though I disagree with you.

>>92514116
So you haven't watched the latest season, then.

>>92514026
In one episode Malory missed Archer's 6th birthday when she was part of a coup against the Guatemalan gov which too place in 1954 meaning archer was born around 1948, Right around the same time she mentions one of his potential fathers dying during operation Gladio.

>>92514117
That could still be the case, if the flash forwards are really just daydreams.

>>92514150
Considering how I just quoted several stale memes from the latest season I'd say I have.

Haven't seen the lastest episode yet.

>>92514150
Not him but the hotdog joke was this season.

>>92514096
Now I'm tempted to write a story where Archer and co. have to deal with Columbia showing up and burning New York to the ground.

>>92514164
But we saw Sterling's birth in a bar in Tangiers while Mallory was being chased by German agents, when else would Mallory Archer be going up against German agents in North Africa but during WWII?

>>92514204
East German agents? Why they were in Tangiers is an open question.

>>92514177
I think it's too early to call them stale memes, they may not be good jokes but at least it's a change up from the old memes.

>>92514237
Plus the hot dog thing only lasted for two episodes, the latter of which only had one example of it.

>>92514228
Unlikely, if it was a cold war situation it would be far more likely to be Russian agents.

>>92514281
Baltic Germans then? They were historically an important feature of the Russian state.

>>92514281
Do you not know the history of East Germany?

Everything about Krieger this season has been A+

>>92513777
That makes MUCH more sense. I just thought he was delusional.

>>92514281
Maybe expatriate German agents, like the ones that cloned Krieger?
It's also possible that it's all meant to be ambiguous.

>>92514277
>2 episodes

Literally every episode

I wish people didn't love VA's making obnoxious ROMF ROMF ROMF noises because thats all the joke. " What? I didn't have anything to eat all day and I was starving" (Immediately throws it out the window)

>>92514313
I know that the East German state; and the Stasi in particular, operated with a high degree of independence from the Soviet Union for a Warsaw Pact state, but they were still only a minor eastern bloc power, why would they be in North Africa?

>>92514322
Given how many of them there are it only makes sense that they celebrate multiple close birthdays together.

>>92514349
You are demonstrably wrong, it was only 2 episodes.

>>92514322
Plus the stereotypical FUTURE clothes and setting kind of made it ambiguous.

>>92514349
Watch again, it is two episodes. Ladyfingers has Poovey and then the coroner do hot dog bits. Sleepers Wake has the coroner do it once when Cyril lights his balls on fire and Poovey do one when they drive to the ransom drop.

>>92514408
Of course someone in the 40s would imagine everyone in FUTURE clothes.

>>92514586
We're lucky they didn't all look like the Jetsons.

>>92514321
I agree. I'm kinda bummed about the qt nurse though. If they do the Russian idea like OP suggested I wouldn't mind seeing her survive somehow to help the KGB with their own robots

>>92514907
Cyborg She-Wolf of the KGB!

>>92514941
Actually, I would watch a revenge rampage against Krieger by the robonurse

Wait. I thought there were ten episodes this season

Anyone have mega's for this season, not a whole lot of buzz this season, and I keep forgetting to get to it.

>>92515584
Nope. 8 a piece through season 10. Maybe a movie after to wrap it all up.

>Best girl is now a man

why

>>92517002
Because is now best boy

>>92517002
There is literally nothing wrong with Pam having a penis.

>>92517413
It doesn't make a lot of sense
why is she a man in archers mind if he slept with her and knows she's a woman

hell, she's the best sex he ever had, chupacabra for dicks and all that

>>92517476
Maybe it's just a fantasy Archer has?

This season better end with him finally learning who his dad is since the last time he was trapped in a fever dream he was resuscitated just as he was about to find out.

>>92517542
Well, all the other characters are exactly how archers sees them.
Kreiger is a mad kraut,Cyril is a sleezy douche, Ray is a sissy etc.

He also thinks of pam in a sexual manner, so him also thinking she's a man would be like admiting his also into dudes, and he's waaaay to deep in the closet to admit that, even to himself

>>92517337
But that's not Cecil.

>>92517337
Krieger will always be best boy

>>92513112
>season finale
What the fuck? It's only been out for, what, a month now? How many episodes have there been?

>>92518383
seven, finale is 8

>>92517002
Cheryl's not a boy this season

>>92518649
That's pretty gay, but alright.

>>92517476
In the period the coma dream is set in a police detective would not have been a woman and his subconscious is period accurate for the most part.

>>92517585
Would his dad then become the big bad of the next season?

>>92518986
Maybe the fact that his dad is evil is what subconsciously led to his fear of alligators.

>>92518928
That is a shit opinion if you think she's best girl

>>92517656
Yes they had sex but she acts much more like his drinking buddy/gross friend than as a romantic or sexual factor in his waking life.

Archer was fucking ruthless when he kept running Barry over. I thought his little "typical" meltdown was the release of all his self-loathing towards his self-destructiveness.

>>92519060
She objectively is. She's cute and is into super-kinky shit. Plus the fact that she's got money, son!

>>92519112
He does have some hardocre ptsd in this setting, so that may explain it

>>92519123
Get your mind out of your pants. Objectivity she is the worst character

>>92519123
Did her and Archer do it anally?

>>92519181
just a tip

>>92519172
If your mind isn't in your pants then none of these people would be appealing. They have too many issues.

>>92519172
figgis is objectively the worst character
he's some woe is me neckbeard who justifies his existence by being good at numbers despite the fact that he champions himself as any more than a slimy garbage person

the other characters are at least echnically competent, content in their own skin, or both

>>92519229
Maybe watch the show and try not to think who would you fuck

>>92519243
I read that as "ethnically competent".

>>92519314
Now who's racist?!

>>92514116

This is why I stopped watching Archer.

>Characters 1 and 2 are having long winded arguments about the situation that could have been easily solved by not yelling at each other.
>Character 3 is now saying random things.
>Climax of the argument about to happen.
>Character 3 screams something completely random.
>Everyone pauses for a moment to acknowledge character 3 random blurp.
>Rinse and repeat.

>>92519243
If at least they showed that he's good with numbers more often, we would knew why the keep him around

>>92519286
Oh I do watch the show. I'd be deluding myself if I thought I could have a peer group even half that intense. That's why none of the drones came back in season 6.

>>92519418
That is if I had a peer in that entire office.

>>92519418
I've meant "try to watch the show without think which characters i want to put my dick inside"

>>92519475
Well I also crave fiscal stability so there's that.

>Just two episodes of ray

awwww, cmon, he's my favourite

fucking trinnet had more screentime

>>92519513
I was surprised to see her back. Do you think she'll show up in another season hunting for child support?

>>92519545
With a 6 year old Seamus in tow

>>92519597
Then Cyril is revealed to be the real father.

>>92519513
Trinnet was pretty great though.

>>92519775
She fits in with the whole group.

>>92520206
Having a hooker as part of the cast makes more sense in a show about PIs than a show about spies anyway.

>>92513112
How much you wanna bet they'll use the coma to do a timeskip?

>>92521101
Probably. Maybe even to the point of teenage AJ.

It should end with dream Barry killing dream Archer, which causes real Archer to wake up to real Barry trying to kill him in his sleep.

>>92521157
I just want AJ and Seamus to be old enough to have wacky spinoff episodes together

>>92521159
Archer isn't waking up this season apparently

>>92521218
We're getting two seasons of Dreamland? Fuck yes!

>>92521218
What I don't get is why aren't they killing off characters and introducing new ones? It's a dream world so none of it really matters. It's an opportunity to freshen up the series, instead we just see the same old shit. Archer does a job. Archer fucks up job and derails the story just to shove Pam/Cyril/Cheryl/whoever into the main plot so the actors could get a paycheck.

>>92521362
your criticism doesn't even make sense since they killed barry and woodhouse, and cartoons don't need to kill off their characters to stay fresh. that only happens in live action when an actor leaves the show and the character isn't integral to the plot, and even then plenty of integral characters have been cut

>>92521536
Woodhouse has been dead for 3 seasons.

>>92517656
He's banged lady boys in Thailand, so he does some guys. He'd definitely do Burt Reynolds (if his mom didn't beat him to it).

>>92521276
That might not be the case but it would be neat. Like someone said before I kinda hope they do a proper vice cop thing

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>>92521596
Just like you, on the inside

>>92513112
Aren't they only doing two more seasons?

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>>92521196
I'd watch it. I was really interested in that Cassius and Clay show Reed was working on but I'll take a look at any new show he wants to try.

>>92521709
Yep. They are contracted until season 10

>>92521709
They're greenlit through season 10 but might go further or do a movie. The creators are talking about the fact that Reed is plotting them all out together instead of taking it one season at a time like they did for most of the series.

>>92521713
I was bummed when they cancelled that. It looked cool. Deep South Mad Max gal pals, what's not to love?

>>92521196
Wouldn't it be weird if Mallory is loving and supportive of older AJ but still a terrible parent to Archer once he wakes up?

>>92522154
What happened? I didn't know they were working on another show.

>>92522292
FXX picked it up for a season in August but dropped it in January. Apparently they made a pilot but I haven't been able to find it anywhere.

>>92513112
Only 8 episodes? Damn.

>>92523344
Yep. If the other seasons carry on the tight storytelling the eight episode seasons will be short but sweet.

it kinda sucks because it's lost the current day references

>>92525441
That's an improvement.