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How would you make an Overwatch animated series, /co/?

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How would you make an Overwatch animated series, /co/?
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I wouldn't because the characters are flat and the world is bland and uninspired
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I wouldn't
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If it has plenty of Widowmaker ass, I might watch it.
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>>92462242
every episode would focus on different groups of characters. every once in a while characters cross paths. some season premieres and finales would be more lore-heavy, perhaps some providing backstories and origins, and would have large groups come together. the series finale would either be one where everyone picks a side and fights, or it could be where everyone comes together to fight something new.
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>>92462242
Focus on that boy and his journey to being a hero.
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I wouldn't. Stop trying to have /v/ threads on /co/.
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>>92462242
I would not. OP btfo
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>>92462314
this
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>>92462242
If it would have zero memes except for really subtle ones, would a battleborn cartoon actually work?
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>>92462242
Tracer's Ass: The Show
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>>92462242
Overwatch goes to highschool and he has to save the world while in time to prom night
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>>92462242
Lots of cash and cheap koreans?
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>>92462494
Just watch My Hero Academia at that point.
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>>92462242
>there will never be an overwatch cartoon beach episode
why bother going on?
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>>92462242
You'd either have to make a prequel, or you'd make something where the younger generation of heroes is establishing themselves and coming together.

The first few arcs would follow [insert young protagonist] and other young characters finding out about the Overwatch call made by Winston somehow, and taking it upon themselves to respond to objectives he's set in lieu of the mostly missing old Overwatch members. It would end with them proving themselves to Tracer, Winston and someone else and becoming the new core team of an illegal but rebuilding Overwatch.

[insert young protagonist] and D.va would probably be shipped by the show, while degenerates on the internet will primarily ship him with Widowmaker and Mei. Tumblr will be furious when he's confirmed not gay but will be somewhat placated by the existence of Tracer.
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>>92462314
There are some interesting characters, but everything interesting about them is ripped from somewhere else. Like Rheinhart being Don Quixote, Soldier 76 being any 'betrayed and left for dead' action movie character and Genji being Raiden.
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Make it about Hana and make her homolust after Angela
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Just make it the wild adventures of Junkrat and Roadhog in nuclear holocaust Australia.
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>>92462896
this desu
i like they way you think anon
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>>92462848
Oh, also, because Blizzard is involved, a female character will be turned evil at the end of the first season.

She'll go on to be a super bitch who manages to gain control of some bad guys, be popular for a while, and then be jerked off endlessly by the writing until everybody hates her. She gets away with everything in the end and loses all traces of the wrathful persona that made her interesting as a character, and the narrative bends over backward to tell everyone that she did nothing wrong. At this point fans will be livid and many will drop the show, but there'll be a large enough remaining viewer base to convince Blizzard that they're 11/10 master writers.
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>>92462242
I would make a cartoon about literally any other game
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>>92463005
Widowmaker's already halfway through that.
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>>92462896
Only if she is cucked relentlessly by Dad76.
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>>92462966
t-thank you s-senpai
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>>92462314
>>92462317
This.
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>>92462896
>>92462966
>>92463123
Make it a mecha anime
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>>92463032
Oh, yeah. She kinda is isn't she?

Well, we didn't see her before her turn, so I'm not sure she counts. I don't really see her taking over Talon either.

She'll probably go rogue, do bounty hunting, maybe fuck McCree. They're both shitter magnets.
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>>92462242
Make a TF2 cartoon instead
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>>92463093
Nah, I want Dva to cuck Pharah just to shit on Pharmafags
>>92463303
As long as it's muh OTP, whatever
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>Witch Mercy episode
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Make it about Junkrat and Roadhog
The only two interesting and remotely funny characters
Roadhog has a slightly better backstory than the others too but that isn't saying much
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>>92463400
This.

OW has one of the most boring fucking character sets I've ever seen, and it's honestly downright amazing how Blizzard managed to make such a big cast of varying backgrounds and roles and they're all ABSOLUTE FUCKING GARBAGE because they're the most bland, boring caricatures ever made.

Demoman has more character in his missing fucking eyeball socket than half the cast of OW.
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>>92462242
Literally GI Joe: American Hero.
Overwatch is GI Joe. Talon is COBRA.

If you want to expand it further and give it more of a cohesive overarching plot rather than following the simple episodic SatAM formula, you can split the main cast between Jack's ex-OW semi-outlaw group (think A Team) and the more lawful 'official' OW lead by Winston. The main antagonist force would still be Talon, but you could also include other groups like Null Sector, Vishkar, corrupt government officials, etc.

You'd need to add some original characters either way, since Overwatch lore is so spotty. We don't know who leads Talon and it would make no sense for it to be Reaper or Widowmaker, so that's at least one shadowy figure we might need to put a name to.

What I would NOT do is try to adapt the fall of Overwatch into a cartoon. I would say without a doubt that any cartoon based on Overwatch should take place in the "present" timeline that the game (sort of) takes place in.
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I wouldn't.
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>>92463685
>Demoman has more character in his missing fucking eyeball socket than half the cast of OW.

All the TF characters are just as thin. Spy is really the only one, even in the comics, that has any level of depth.

They get away with it because the writing for them is a whimsical comedy.
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>>92463657
>mfw Roadgod main
>rape Mercy and Lucio
>Rip Pharah out of the sky
>Snipe Tracers, Genjis, and Zens
A good Tracer and Ass reaper are my only threats, but i can usually deal with them
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>>92462494
Worst idea. Making it star a cookie cutter self insert kid would be awful. We already have characters people like, and I can almost guarantee that focusing on some OC donut steel boy hero would just make people angry that more familiar characters are getting less spotlight over it.
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>>92462494
That boy was the most interesting character out of the whole cast. He at least had potential for development.
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>>92463744
That's the thing, all the TF2 characters are simple yet entertaining as fuck while every Overwatch character has an intricated backstory and 98% of them are fucking lame
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>>92463744
The TF characters don't have much in the way of backstory, but their actual character interactions more than make up for it, even if you go by their original characters and discount anything from the later comics and shorts. They're a bunch of half-tilt mercenaries who shoot each other for money and fun, and none of their characterizations go against that- that's what the game is about, that's what the shorts are about, that's what the comics are about, and it's all nice and happy and on fire.

Blizz has outright admitted the game has nothing to do with the OVERARCHING CANON BACKSTORYâ„¢ of OW, which is not only a really silly thing to do (read: they'd rather shy away from the issue of why everyone is fighting on the same sides when they're mortal enemies instead of just hand-waving it like Valve did with "don't worry about it, it isn't a serious plot"), but said BACKSTORYâ„¢ itself is the most bland, cliche mess of garbage I've seen in ages, a completely expected Good vs. Evil where everyone is clear-cut in what they do, everyone has to be linked to everyone else somehow, every character must have one defining trait that the internet will associate them with to make fanart and memes out of (this one is important!), and there's about five characters whose backstory is "Everyone thought they died... But they DIDN'T."
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>>92463744
Sure, they dont have depth, but they all have distinct personalities which are great to see interact with each other.

The Overwatch characters have no traits that provoke the same chemistry, they have very little outside whats already apparent by their costumes.
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>>92462242
>How would you make an Overwatch animated series, /co/?
I wouldn't
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>>92462242
I've had this on my mind for quite a while. I would start off with just Tracer responding to Winston's recall. From there we would see Winston struggle to rebuild the foundations that Overwatch was built upon, trying to establish a budget, make preparations, etc.

As the show goes on, more and more ex-Overwatch members start joining the group, helping out with certain missions (Mcree could do some bounty hunting, Tracer could help Torbjorn find stolen blueprints to a weapon he disowned, etc.) As far as character arcs go, focusing on two or three main characters per season and giving the rest mini-arcs could help set the tone for a particular season. (Maybe the 1st season is about Mercy rekindling her passion for battlefield healing after becoming jaded).

Talon is an important adversary, no doubt, but with how many characters and factions there are, making Talon the sole enemy would be wasted potential. Maybe one season has the new Overwatch go through wasteland Australia, the other focuses on Vishkar conspiracies, another deals with the government and what they would do to the new Overwatch. Helps keep the viewer on their toes.

Personally, I think that Overwatch's main theme could be about making lemonade from lemons. If you think about it, the majority of the characters have had their lives fucked in one way or another. (Tracer being temporarily erased from existance, Genji being dead, Rein losing his comrades, Torb's weapons being misused) Good character growth would take advantage of how each character deals with their predicament, and how they improve as a person; or in cases like Reaper, how they become worse.

If I was a decent fanfiction writer maybe I could write some stories about this shit, but I don't know if I have any real creative skill. Just wishful thinking. :I
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make it episodic as fuck with an over arching story.
Every single episode should focus on different characters in different situations or missions.
It should have them all playing off one another in different ways.

You shouldnt even realize there is a bigger story until like the last episodes of the season.
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>>92463994
Young Justice Season 1?
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>>92463972
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>>92463685
>Demoman has more character in his missing fucking eyeball socket than half the cast of OW
This is actually true.

>>92463744
But this isn't a matter of whatever superficial notion of depth you have. No one argues that TF2 has "deep" characters, that's absurd.
It's about charm, good design, good character interactions, going the extra mile to make your classes stand out as characters with limited resources. Before the comics, the only thing TF2's characters had was design, a few hats, and dialogue, and the occasional Meet The Team videos, and everyone loved them (they still do). It's consistently agreed to be the best part of TF2 (because it sure as hell ain't balance or community).
Overwatch can cram as much backstory as they want on their half-assed uninspired designs with witless dialogue, they will never be even half as interesting as what TF2 had.
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>>92463697
The lore was pointing towards Doomfist being the leader of Talon.
However that may have changed with the Orisa update, since they referred to him as a local villain.
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>>92463744
He doesn't know that Demoman last his eye when he had a summer job where he cleaned the house of a wizard.
He opened a cursed book in the library which took his eye.
Now the eye is a giant, deadly, flying eyeball.
Also, the Wizard later was the roommate of Soldier for a while.

I'm sure it's not as easy as it sounds, making such ridiculously stupid yet really fun back stories.
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>>92463972
>Personally, I think that Overwatch's main theme could be about making lemonade from lemons.
very cool
me personally, i think that overwatch's main theme could be about making money from idiots
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>>92462242
>How would you make an Overwatch animated series, /co/?

I would make about Mei and her globetrotting adventures.
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>>92462242
Everyone has sex especially Tracer and Widow.
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>>92463994
This works. I can dig this idea. Although I'd prefer it be fairly obvious that it's slowly building up to something by about half way through the run. I guess that also depends on how many episodes.
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Junkrat and Roadhog go to White Castle
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>>92464170
>I'm sure it's not as easy as it sounds, making such ridiculously stupid yet really fun back stories.
It'll be less easy now given that pretty much every writer of note has jumped ship from Valve.
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>>92463994

its GI Joe with superpowers.
every episode/mission has a couple main people (Tracer/Winston/76 for OW) plus others as the mission decries. fighting Reaper/Widow/whoever + nameless thugs of Talon.
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>>92462242
>How would you make an Overwatch animated series?
13x22min SFM porn
I mean, it's the only thing about Overwatch that I even pay attention to anyways.
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Entertaining characters in Overwatch: Junkrat, Roadhog, maybe Reinhardt.
Trash: The rest.
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>>92464271
This would be the easiest way to do it. Just set it up in a two parter that takes place shortly after the Recall short, then make it entirely episodic from there. Shit you could even skip the set up episodes, it's not as mandatory as people think.
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>>92463657
>>92464261
Junkrat and Roadhog are the only characters in Overwatch I find even remotely interesting.
That, and Mercy, but that's mostly because her designs make me diamonds (I have no idea what her "character" is and I couldn't care less)
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>>92464203
as long as she is a low key nympho
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>>92464345
>low key
Why?
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>>92462242
I wouldn't becasue the games fans that actually want that sort of thing are super autistic about their headcanons and it's honestly not worth it.
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>>92464236
Well yeah, there should always be that threat of a "greater evil"
But as for the series itself, one week you might be seeing junkrat and roadhog getting into shenanigans and having a run in with Talon.

The next week its tracer and winston training up Lucio, D.Va, and the other new recruits.

Week after that the episode is Reaper attacking Soldier 76 and Ana.

The point is that it shouldnt focus on any one character. In fact it should strive to mix and match as many as possible. Similar to the video game, where you have all sorts of weird team combinations. Forcing enemies to work together, and vice versa.
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>>92462896
>not D.Va and Lucio
its like you dont want a cute SoL about a gamer and music producer living together with awkward sexual tension that grows as the season goes on
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Fun idea for a drinking game: Take a drink every time someone says "Junkrat and Roadhog are the only interesting characters" or anything along the lines of Overwatch is boring ITT. Proceed to then die of alcohol poisoning. I'll keep score.
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>>92462896
>>92462966
>>92463123
gas yourselves filthy degenerates
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>>92464399
You sound butthurt, just close the tab.
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>>92464350
It's a cartoon, lad, not hentai
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>>92464399
I'm already buzzed. Making me full-on drunk will not make Overwatfch's cast any more interesting.
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>>92464345
I imagine it more like she travels world doing research and performing important experiments when a Jonny Quest style supervillain tries to steal her work or destroy her and she's gotta freeze 'em.
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>>92464186
You've actually hit one of my big issues with it here. The general aiming for a NobleBright setting doesn't land. All the supposed Hope and Optimism feels manufactured, like it was decided in a boardroom to boost sales. All the heroes want to do good, but have no ideology beyond that. And there's no actual threat outside an edgelord and one sniper, or a Robot rebellion which is constantly undermined by presenting them as an opressed minority.
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>>92464425
Hentai is a cartoon.
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>>92464400
>hating on Pure Love
MODS
O
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>>92464455
>Hentai is art
ftfy
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>>92464399
Hey man, i love overwatch, but they arent wrong.
Junky and Roady are fucking awesome.

Zenyatta is pretty great too.
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>It's a Zarya snu snu episode
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>>92464502
>Zenyatta is pretty great too.
damn straight
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>>92462314
This, someone COULD attempt to pull a Sonic Boom and give it something the original game didn't have at all, but then again lightning rarely strikes twice.
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>>92464447
surprise, you've cracked the code
overwatch the game was specifically designed to appeal to as many people as physically and humanly possible by taking good parts of other games and stripping them down by very heavily flattening the skill curve, and to generate a massive secondary fanbase (think touhou) who have never actually played the game and never will, but see a character they like because that character has a single stand-out trait or design that appeals to them ("literally me," as the tumblrites say), who then make pages and pages of fanart and poorly edited memes, which are then spread to other secondaries and primaries, and the cycle of incredibly effective free marketing repeats

everything feels manufactured because it IS manufactured, nothing in the game can be taken as even remotely offensive to anyone because every gender, race, sexuality, disability, nationality and barbecue sauce flavor choice must be included in one way or another

also blood is #triggering so no one bleeds in our first person shooter
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>>92462242
Would go to Studio FOW
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>>92464443
Mei is bae and anyone who says they wouldn't watch a show about her is lying.
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>>92464399
Can you even say they are wrong ?
It's pretty hard to find a way to make a fat-and-skinny villain duo not fun to watch.
Bulk and Skull, Wario and Waluigi, Scratch and Grounder, etc, everyone usually likes these characters even if they aren't fans of the property they are in because they are usually fun.
Roadhog and Junkrat aren't great characters but they are fun characters, and that's more than what can be said for the rest of the cast. Part of the reason why they stand out is because of how they contrast with the unspeakably boring cast by at least having a little bit of an attitude.
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An Overwatch cartoon would be fucking retarded because Blizzard doesn't even listen to their own lore.

OK SO ITS GOOD VS EVIL BUT THE BAD GUYS AND GOOD GUYS WORK TOGETHER SOMETIMES FOR NO REASON LOL IDK CHECK OUT MEI'S FAT TITS
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>>92462314
It's weird, people absolutely love the shorts but I found them more generic than your typical Disney/Pixar story. It's like, the difference between The Little Mermaid or Quest for Camelot.
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>>92464626
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>>92464502
I don't think they're wrong per se, I just couldn't help poking fun at how many times the same thing needed to be repeated. And will be repeated, over and over.
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>>92464668
It's a video game. You'd be pissed if you weren't allowed to play as good and bad guys on the same team.
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>>92464677
They look really good but that's it
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>>92464668
>OK SO ITS GOOD VS EVIL BUT THE BAD GUYS AND GOOD GUYS WORK TOGETHER SOMETIMES FOR NO REASON LOL IDK CHECK OUT MEI'S FAT TITS

are you making fun of it, or trying to advertise to me.
I cant find anything about that sentence that i didnt like.
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>>92464699
Well maybe they should have factored that into their lore before they made a fucking game out of it.
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>>92462242
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yK9ya1vZZcU
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>>92464753
Why? No one asks why Spartans are shooting each other in Halo's multiplayer.

They know it's just a fucking multiplayer video game, you fucking autist.
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>>92464668
>>92464699
also I'd be unbalanced like that
>3 talon members vs the 19 other ex-overwatch members and and 2 semi neutral omnics
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I wouldn't mind seeing a short that focused on the character's lives outside of battle. Maybe a short where we get to see D.va playing on a professional e-sports team, Lucio setting up for a DJ gig, Reaper browsing message boards and being a passive aggressive prick, etc.
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>>92464795
It's a training simulation. Everybody knows that.

There's literally no excuse for having Tracer and Widow fighting Winston all in the same match when, it's retarded and just shows how little thought was put into making this corporate slop that appeals to fucking normies such as yourself.
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>>92464908
>There's literally no excuse for having Tracer and Widow fighting Winston all in the same match

Except if it's a training exercise.
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>>92464795
Halo has a separate campaign, and im pretty sure the multiplayer is supposed to be training exercises.
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>>92464812
Well maybe they shouldn't have made 19 generic good guys with all the same copy pasted personalities.
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>>92464908
>It's a training simulation. Everybody knows that.
Factually incorrect, the matches simply aren't canon.
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>>92464932
That doesn't work because they're a part of different organizations you dunce.

Why would Tracer and Window be training with each other?
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The level of autistic screeching in this thread about completely arbitrary aspects of a video game that no normal person would complain about is.....about the typical level for /co/

You guys are stupid.
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>>92464981
Because it's a training exercise.
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>>92464981
>Why would Tracer and Window be training with each other?

It's a video game. Do you have any idea what a fucking spaz you sound like right now?
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>>92465036
Bait or just being pedantic?
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>>92465092
The man asked a reasonable question, don't dodge it because "Oh it's a video game, it's not supposed to make sense, just turn your brain off and at the same time consume this mountain of fucking lore that has no meaning or purpose."
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>>92464030
I agree with you.

This is really a matter of writing, though, not character design. Put any characters in the hands of a good writer and they'll be fun because the writer will think of interesting ways for them to interact.

The TF characters don't really have anything more to them than the Overwatch guys. All of them are extremely basic, one-note archetypes. The only hint nuance any of them shows is demonstrated by Spy in one of the animated shorts. They just have a better writing team scripting their stories.
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>>92465092
>I-It's just a game
>y-you're just a spaz

Not an argument
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>>92465092
He's on par with the Sneed's Feed & Seed faggot, easily.
>>92465195
>>92465223
Say it with me now!
"MATCHES AREN'T CANON!"
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>>92465223
Neither is 'why good guys playing with bad guysREEEEEE?!'
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>>92464908
>It's a training simulation.

It's actually not, that's never been the excuse for it.

In fact, there has simply never been an excuse given, because Bungie aren't a bunch of autismos and realize this is a fucking videogame vs mode. Jesus Christ, did you make these retarded complaints about the multiplayer in Perfect Dark.

>hurr why all these Joanna Darks fightan each uvver? there's only one Joanna Dark!
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>>92463400
>Even TF2 had to bring a waifu in
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Why would I? The character designs are overdesigned messes that would be a nightmare to animate, and the characters themselves are uninteresting.
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>>92464981
The creators literally went and said the game is non-canon to the lore, the matches mean nothing.
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>>92462242
>I wouldn't because the characters are flat and the world is bland and uninspired

A series would be a chance to flesh them out much better than a videogame could. As for the world... yeah.
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>>92465092
The problem is internal consistency. The lore is not consistent with the actual gameplay, its similar to every MMO having thousands of 'Chosen Ones' running around, instead of working the lore around the gameplay they write something completely unrelated outside the same characters appearing.
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>>92464981
>Simulation

Holograms like the Danger Room from X-Men.
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>>92465264
>pointing out that the game doesn't make sense in its own universe isn't an argument
>>92465256
Ok, if the matches aren't canon, you know, the entire fucking game, which is to say the media that everyone who experiences this franchise is going to know first and foremost, why bother having a canon or lore in the first place?
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>>92465339
The world is really no more uninspired than that of everything with superheroes and 90% of cartoons. It's just future Earth with a consistent visual style and superfolks running around.

That's what most people on this board spend all their time reading about, except for the consistent visual style.
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Do you guys also get this autistic when you play Street Fighter and it's Guile vs Chun Li?
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>>92465365
>why bother having a canon or lore in the first place?

Because people like lore.

Was that so hard?
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>>92465419
Hah.

>reeeeeee why are Siegfried and Sophitia fighting according to canon Siegfried escaped the Soul Edge and they're friends now REEEEEEEEEEEE

This is literally what you guys all sound like right now.
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>>92465365
Lore fleshes out characters to give fans something more to cling to beyond looks and one-liners, are you really this retarded?
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Can't believe this needs to be explained but here goes: Lore and game mechanics are different beasts. This is not a new concept by any means.

Lore just adds flavor to the setting. Beyond that, you just dick around and have fun. That's why the same characters can fight against themselves, or why you have silly skins like Firefighter Mei or Steampunk Bastion. It's the same reason as a kid you could make your Ninja Turtles toys fight against your GI Joes in a Lego fort - it's just play.

Any "explanation" for this would be some dumb fourth wall bullshit, so be a grown up just this once and understand that the game is the game and the lore is the lore, and while one supports the other there's no need for them to be an exact reflection of it.
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>>92462242
focus on how each Overwatch character has some sort of interaction with a kid that inspires them to become the next "Overwatch" of their generation and focus on characters stopping Talon or Talon accomplishing a mission every now and then (like when Widowmaker killed robo Ghandi)
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>>92464894
>Reaper browsing message boards and being a passive aggressive prick, etc.

I would love to see Reaper shitposting about why it's problematic that the matches in a popular vidya aren't canon.

>if you like this shit you have to DIE DIE DIE
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>>92465441
Setting aside that much time and effort and hiring a writing staff to make an entire universe that's JUST for lorefags seems a bit stupid and wasteful doesn't it? Instead of actually integrating the lore and game together and have updates to the lore affect the game by way of events, cosmetics, characters and game modes like in other, better games.
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>>92465256
>>92465329
>Blizzard writes a convoluted backstory
>How do we make a fun game out of this?
>lol just ignore it, who cares

At least Halo did something with its lore for fuck's sake. That's why people are invested in it. But what reason is there to invest in OW's backstory when it is not once addressed in game aside from lame 3 second quips at the start of the match?
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>>92465538
>Setting aside that much time and effort and hiring a writing staff to make an entire universe that's JUST for lorefags seems a bit stupid and wasteful doesn't it?

Evidently not, since it's been integral to the game's success.

>Instead of actually integrating the lore and game together

You realize there are actually PvE events and skins that do this, right?

Either way, see >>92465486
for why you're being a tard.
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>>92462242
>Don't let Blizzard handle the writing.
>Introduce a clearly defined villain with goals for the protagonists to work against, because having Reaper/Widowmaker/Sombra show up in every episode like they're Team Rocket or something would get old very fast.
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What were these lazy faggots thinking when they made this?! It makes no sense!

Why are there two Chun Li's? Why would they be fighting each other!! I demand a lore explanation for this REEEEE
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i know this guy is being autistic but I really do want to know how the fuck tf2 works
because they actually do have comics and cartoons and sometimes there's doubles
Are they clones? Which ones came first? A lot of them have families and back stories, but in the cartoons one time we saw like 4 Soldiers on one team.
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>>92465567
>At least Halo did something with its lore
Halo has lore?
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>>92465514
Hero was the shittiest short. Why would we make a whole cartoon based on retreading that lame children are our future concept over and over.
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>>92465602
SHADALOO CLONES! NANOMACHINES!

Bam, pay me.
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>>92465605
It's just silly fun, anon, it rarely makes sense.
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>>92465610
Halo has an entire series of novels that are very popular.
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>>92465567
The only people actually invested in the lore are
A.) people looking into possible hints of future characters and
B.) autists like yourself who obsess over stories in multiplayer video games.
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>>92465567
>what reason is there to invest in OW's backstory when it is not once addressed in game aside from lame 3 second quips at the start of the match?
People like the characters, it's literally that simple, the "lore" you're talking about isn't even what most of the fandom is interested about, they just want more character interactions fuel.
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>>92465610
What makes it unique is the classic Sci-Fi inspired setting. This has always been the case.
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>>92465605
TF2 is well written because it doesn't take itself seriously.

OW on the other hand tries to make people emotionally invested into shitty writing that doesn't make sense and it just falls flat.
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>>92465008
Don't worry, the gameplay is shit too.
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>>92465652
>it's okay when one game does it because i can literally just bullshit an excuse out of my anus
>but it's not okay for another game where i can easily do the same
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>>92465538
Well seeing as how people are playing the game and enjoy all the bits of lore that come out, doesn't make it wasteful in the end.

>Instead of actually integrating the lore and game together and have updates to the lore affect the game by way of events, cosmetics, characters and game modes like in other, better games.

They literally just did this with the Uprising event. And Jeff Kaplan said himself they want to do more stuff like that in the future. So again, it's not wasteful.
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>>92465666
I read one of them. The first one that came out. Very popular? That's honestly sad. Next thing you'll be telling me the Warcraft novels are very popular. (Please don't.)
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>>92465605
I assume the comics/shorts Red Team are the originals.
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>>92465622
those are only SOME episodes and it would all come together for a ending when Overwatch is disbanded or something but all the kids (now teens or young adults) get together to reboot it.

You could still have some more darker episodes like Doomfist putting Africa into disarray or Widowmaker having a "Im too far gone to ever be a good guy again" moment with Tracer.
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>>92465365
>>92465223
>>92464981
Jeezus, what the fuck?
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>>92465610
>>92465666
It's all baby's first scince fiction novel anyways, literally not a single original idea in Halo's lore.
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>>92465696
I never said any of that, chief. You asked for an explanation and I ass pulled the first one that came to mind. It's not hard when you don't care and no reasonable person gives a fuck.
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You know what I hate about RTS...
Fully trained soldiers just emerge our off the barracks.
Nobody goes in there, but units come out all the time, out of fucking nowhere.
And even in those games where you have to send a citizen in to be trained, it happens in an instant.
Don't developer know that it takes 10+ years, starting as a young boy, to become a proper soldier or knight?

The thread right now!
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>>92465694
That's a matter of opinion. I enjoy it, as long as I don't idiots on my team.
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>>92465693
TF2 is about as """well written""" as a Bendis comic trying to be funny, don't kid yourself.

Still better than modern Blizzard though.
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>>92465733
Still has lore though. And no one else was really ripping those books off so its actually pretty unique.
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>>92465706
>>92465733
I didn't say they were good.
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>>92465767
>That's a matter of opinion
Really, all of this is.
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>>92465819
Then why are people stating their opinions as if they were fact?
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>>92465846
Everyone has opinions, but mine are right :^)
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>>92465846
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>>92465667
>w-well you're just an autist!
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>>92465791
Of course no one else is ripping Halo's books off, Halo simply ripped everything else off.

Ancient wiped out alien civilization? Who also left behind super weapons? Have cults built around a misunderstanding of their intentions? Zombieesque super plague acting as a hive mind?

Even the old Star Wars EU featured a ton of that shit before Halo did, THAT'S how generic and overdone it is. It's all capeshit/shonen tier.
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>>92465909
>I-I'll make it seem like he's stuttering, that's much better than a counter argument!
You need to lea/v/e.
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>>92465931
Of course, Im not going to deny that, but the argument started over wether or not it had lore.
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>>92465791
>And no one else was really ripping those books off so its actually pretty unique.

Almost every mainstream sci-fi rips off at least some of the same ideas.

Halo happens to rip off ALL of them, making the blandest and least interesting sci-fi universe ever to exist.
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>>92465958
It's funny you insult my argument when yours was dogshit to begin with.
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>>92465931
Is this the part in the thread where we bash whatever random shit for not being innovative and avant garde? As if everything needs to be.
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>>92463827
Dammit I want my shota hero!
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>>92465582
I think the game being easily accessible and easy to pick up and also being made by fucking Blizzard was integral to its success. The lore was just piggybacking off of that. And if there wasn't so god damn much lore that took itself way too seriously for its own good, I wouldn't be complaining. You bring up fighting games because I'm pretty sure you're autistic and have to focus on one thing at a time or else you'll have a fit, and that's where the difference lies. Actually, there's two differences. One, fighting games have a single player story mode, that's the canon, that's the lore, it's as accessible to everyone as the multiplayer, end of story. With Overwatch you only have the multiplayer. It's a fighting game with no story mode that leaves you with all the characters unlocked including the villains. One mode of gameplay being non-canon is much more acceptable than the entire thing. Also the writers for fighting games aren't putting as much effort into their lore as Blizzard is with OW. Separating the entire universes story and the entire game is stupid.
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>>92465988
That might have been where you jumped in, but the argument was originally about whether or not it was worth investing in.
>>92466001
Some faggot wants to act like Halo has good lore, and they need to be knocked down a few notches is all.

For the record, it's still better than what Blizzard can manage but shit is shit.
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Can we just get back to talking about the hypothetical Mei: The Animated Adventures?
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>>92465993
How was it shit? Go into detail.
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>>92462242
why does /a/ and /v/ use /co/ as their shitposting ground?
>guys, look at my new flavor of the month vidya, what if it was a cartoon? totes not shilling tho XD
>guys, look at my new flavor of the month anime, what if it was a cartoon? totes not shilling tho XD
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>>92466204
>resort to ad hominem
>lmao kid, where's your counter argument?

Suck a dick my friend
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>>92466189
She goes to a desert/tropical zone.
She is completely useless.
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>>92466115
Just make him a secondary character rather than the main character and let the main characters play off of him sometimes, rather than all the time. That'd work.

The best example I can think of off the top of my head is the kid from Transformers. I don't even remember his name. He hung out with Bumblebee all the time. And maybe Hot Rod?
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>>92463005

Don't forget that they'll stop using the original, iconic voice actor for no reason 2/3 of the way through the character's narrative arc just to slot in some pointless nerd celebrity.
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>>92466239
>You hurt my feelings, so I'm backing out!
Who's the kid again?
>>92466237
>flavor of the month
But it's been like a year now.
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>>92466237
it's been a year and a half, stop your paranoia I do agree this threads are annoying tho
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>>92466242
She's actually incredibly useful on the desert maps.
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>>92464957

>19 generic good guys with all the same copy pasted personalities

Maybe /co/ shouldn't talk about games it's never played when it can barely keep up with the comics it claims to read
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>>92462896
I like homolust as much as the next anon, but why choose two of the few characters in the game with canon/heavily implied (heterosexual) love interests?
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I ditch it and Make a Hots animated series instead.
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>>92466553
But.....I've seen people shitposting about it on 4chan! That makes me an expert on it! You're just a filthy SJW, aren't!!!
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>>92463789
>Road main

Fucking kill yourself
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>>92466290
There was no argument to "back out" of you retarded faggot. kys
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Set it in Junkertown, make it Mad Max. Characters featured are Junkrat, Roadhog, Dva and Ana, with occasional appearances by whoever the fuck else.
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>>92466704
What's wrong, you can't deal with a long range attack that leads into a combo that can kill most of the cast without them being able to retaliate, and has such little warning that your best defense is to just not get hit? fuck hog
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I would cancel it and make a TF2 Animated Series instead.
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>got this far and nobody has yet to say 'rocket jumping doesnt take any skill' in TF2, in their TF2/ Overwatch '''''arguments'''''

/v/ please
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>>92467144
>people are still arguing about TF2 vs OW, even though neither is really worth playing in their current state
>everyone just goes on and on about muh competitive scene and muh balance while the games steadily get less and less fun, even though this entire subgenre of games was always casual as fuck to being with
>tfw I put over 2000 hours into TF2, and now I honestly have more fun dicking around in free 2 play shit like Paladins and Dirty Bomb
>tfw people give Paladins shit for ripping off Overwatch, but it actually handles some of Overwatch's characters better than Overwatch does
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>>92467455
I played tons of paladins before and in the small amount of time I played paladins, I had an infinite amount of more fun than I did playing OW to be completely honest. I stopped back when the newest character I can remember was Sha Lin or whatever the bow sniper was.

It was probably how you could tweak your own loadouts to fit your playstyle, ults weren't a game winning button in most cases, and everyone has an escape of some sorta, shields and healing weren't so obnoxious because of the burn cards, and there were ACTUAL HEROES I ENJOYED PLAYING that weren't trash tier cause it felt like everyone but Skye were useful in some way, and you'd always see a variety of people playing different heroes instead of the same shit every game.

I'm gonna miss playing Buck though, his goofy personality, his ult line, his abilities and fucking train sounds he made when leaping.
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>>92463093
OTP
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>>92467455
>playing Dirty Bomb
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>>92467904
It's a good game faggot
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>>92468132
So is Overwatch faggot
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>>92468215
>Overwatch
>good
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Hire some of the freelance Valve writers to do it.
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>>92468132
It's pure shit.

I actually know people that worked on that game, and they agree.
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>>92468554
>Dirty Bomb
>good
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>>92467699
>ults weren't a game winning button in most cases

If you think ults in Overwatch are autowin buttons, I'm afraid I have some shocking news for you: you're simply really really fucking bad at the game.
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>>92467904
DB is objectively more fast-paced and less restrictive than OW. There's way more potential for an individual player to do cool shit and win games.

>>92468685
My dad runs Blizzard and he said Overwatch was made as a sick practical joke to troll Valve into ruining TF2's server browser with an awful matchmaking system.
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>>92468908
>My dad runs Blizzard and he said Overwatch was made as a sick practical joke to troll Valve into ruining TF2's server browser with an awful matchmaking system.

I wouldn't even be surprised.

But for real, nintendodads aside, I actually do know people who worked on DB and are baffled by the fact that people play it. You don't have to believe me, this being a vietcong fishing pamphlet and all, but it's something I find consistently hilarious.
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>>92468908
>There's way more potential for an individual player to do cool shit and win games.
>Dirty Bomb

Are you joking?
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>>92465315
scout is best waifu
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>>92462888
Fucking this a million times. Has Blizzard ever made anything actually unique to them? Starcraft/Warcraft was just ripped from warhammer, and overwatch is just ripped from TF2. The only overwatch character I can think of that is slightly interesting is....I dunno, Zenyatta and maybe symmetra?
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>>92462966
>>92463123
I thought people shipped Mercy with Pharah or 76 why's is she being paired with D.va here?
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>>92469078
Care to explain why I'm wrong? Because I gave reasons for my opinion. Characters in DB are much less reliant on abilities to be effective, so good FPS fundamentals like aim and positioning are much more pivotal.
I still haven't seen an explanation for why DB is bad beyond incredulous greentext and "my dad works at Nintendo".
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>>92469447
It's as barebones and basic an FPS as you can get. But I guess that's what you're looking for (ie BORING)
>>
>>92462888
While I wouldn't credit Blizzard with incredible creativity, you're showing your pleb here.

Soldier is very clearly meant to be a Captain America analogue who has been brought low by the world and turned into more of a Cable type analogue. He's basically a tribute to two superheroes that one of the designers really likes.

Genji is absolutely nothing like Raiden in terms of personality. There are a lot of cyborg ninjas in fiction, anon, they're not all Raiden. Raiden wasn't even the original. You realize there were cyborg ninjas in MGS before Raiden, right? Games before Revengeance did exist.
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>>92469477
Why do people talk shit about games they've never played?
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>>92468976
>no guise really

Prove it or fuck off faggot
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>>92464564
What are you talking about? There's blood in Overwatch.
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>>92469477
>it's boring for an FPS to focus primarily on the actual FPS mechanics
So have you never actually played an FPS before?
Like did you just stumble out of a MOBA to play Overwatch because it had the Blizzard logo on it?
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>>92469274
I didn't even know that ship existed
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>>92469519
I have about 12 hours on Dirty Bomb actually. It got old.
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>>92463685

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yK9ya1vZZcU

Also, friendly reminder that Medic replaces Demo's eye after every Halloween, but removed the part of his brain that allows him to remember that.
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>>92466704
>>92467083
get rekt, my dudes
>>92469274
>Shipping Pharah and 76 with Mercy
end your basic selves
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>>92463028
>Shovel Knight cartoon never
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>>92462888
>Genji being Raiden.

You're right; we should get a MGR animated series instead.
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>>92462242
Junkrat and Roadhog accidentally or intentionally encountering other heroes.
Shenanigans ensue.
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>>92469247
Although not super unique and technically done by Blizzard North, Diablo 1 and 2 has some great settings.
Dark gothic fantasy taking place in marshes, desert, swamp lands, underground insect hives,
snake temples.
It's not the most unique by any stretch, but it definitely feels like it's own world that isn't ripped-off from other ideas.
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>>92470225
This is probably your video, but I still laughed.
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>>92464019
well that was a truckload of feel bricks
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>Overwatch doesn't have any good characters!
>These niggas don't know about Zen
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>>92472684
the most Rapeable
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>>92472684
>Overwatch cartoon gets made
>episode about how Zenyatta and Genji became bros
>this happens
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=58WD6Ij62ds
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>>92473455
>Razors voice
was the VA trying to be Dante from DMC or s shittier Zuko?
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question is, if it does get an animation project going.

how likely would the team be infested with (((those people)))
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>>92474477
Yes, Blizzard folds like wet spaghetti.
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>>92463400
>>92462242
TF2 would work better. Even the comics are streets ahead in quality.
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>>92462314
>a multiplayer only game
>bland

Color me surprised
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>oh cool a hypothetical Overwatch cartoon thread I wonder what crazy ideas anon ha-

Godamnit this always happens
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>>92475135
To make anything interesting you'd need to rework it from the ground up, or go full retard like tf2 did with Australium and wizards.
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>>92462242
OVERWATCH, REAL INTERNATIONAL HEROES

go full action cartoon, 44 minute semi self contained episodes

consist of lot of dialogue both during and before combat, at least one major set piece battle per episode. major banting even in pitched fights like in the game, so we get a good idea how people feel about others without resorting to talky scenes

always have focus episodes for each character, like an episode that delves into genjis backstory, or an episode where mccree goes all detective noir on his manhunt

feature frequent TALON segments, where reaper and company are plotting their next scheme, people loved the COBRA segments after all, and allows us to see more of how their agents behave off the clock
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>>92475230
That's your opinion I personally like overwatch and want it to be expanded on either through threads like these or official canon, the fact anon cannot be content with other anons liking something he doesn't and has to shitpost to oblivion is shitposting of the worst kind
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>>92462314
again this
but we can make a show on people who ship mercy and genji, that wuold be commedy gold
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>>92462242
Do what Star Wars The Clone Wars did and make it a stylized anthology set between two of the movies.

In this case you'd probably set it between Dragon Brothers and Petras Act and have Tracer as your pseudo-MC, like Ahsoka. She's prominent but not necessary in every episode, so you can have entire arcs where another character is the effective main protagonist.
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>>92462774
Because there's more to life than comics&cartoons
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>>92466115
I'm going to need sauce...
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>>92463123

>that comic

"th-thank you for marrying me"
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>>92467455
>playing bargain bin games
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>>92465605
same way there can be an enemy Tracer while your playing Tracer
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>>92477427
>paying full price for a game that belongs in the bargain bin when you could get better games for free just because the full price game was made by a company you recognize
>thinking this is something to be proud of
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3F0Xx-oQKsU
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