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The Flash #22 Storytime

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Lets go boys
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>>92456224
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>>92456224
Finally!
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IT WAS ME BARRY, YOUR DAD
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>>92456233
nice
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>>92456224
>>92456233
>those covers

get the fuck outta here...
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>>92456245
no you
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I am early!
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>>92456224
Fuck DC. I want my Jay back. But now he is lost again
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>>92456250
>>92456259
oh shit
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>>92456259
>sword
I thought Thomas Wayne shot him in the back of the head
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>>92456286
That was the movie version, though it came out more gory than the sword version.
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>>92456286
He did in the movie.
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>>92456266
I would really love to see a story where Eobard actually does this
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>>92456303
JAY!
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>>92456233

Who's the artist on this cover?
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>>92456224
fuck you anon who interrupted the other storytimes. Jay appears to save Bats and Barry but gets sucked back to the speed force. Nothing of value happens other than the button ending up in Manhattan's hands. FUCK YOU.
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>>92456313
Based
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>>92456303
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW YYYYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>92456313
Woooo
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>>92456313
Fuck yeah he's ba-
>>92456345
>>92456352
Wew
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>>92456313
FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

PAGE OF THE YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>92456303
DO IT! SAY MY NAME!

CEI-U!
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>>92456325
Porter


PREVIEWSworld changed the wrong interior artist weeks ago.
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>>92456313
Hell Yeah!
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>>92456345
>>92456352
oh fuck what the fuck is happening?
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>>92456393
Barry wasn't his Lightning Rod.
I assume it's going to be Johnny Thunder.
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>>92456396
Please let the next page be a reveal Please let the next page be a reveal Please let the next page be a reveal Please let the next page be a reveal Please let the next page be a reveal
>>92456403
FUCKING FINALLY BLUE DONG IS CONFIRMED
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>>92456403
lol
Johns is a hack
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>>92456352
Fuck DC. Fuck Williamson. Fuck Johns.
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>>92456417
poor little baby
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>>92456424
What does it mean
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>>92456413
We've know since day one it was Manhattan. What did you expect?
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>>92456362
What just happened?

Flash's reaction is basically the same as my own.
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>5 weeks just to show Manhattan's hand
>nothing happened
>back to status quo
>have to wait until to November to see Manhattan's other hand
WOOOOOW and i wonder why people hate comic books?
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>>92456387
>9 panel grid

least subtle thing ever
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>>92456403
HOW IN THE FUCK DID YOU NOT SPOILER THIS IMAGE?!
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>>92456424
Ok /co/, what's the point of this crossover if nothing really happens?
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>>92456266
H Y P E R T I M E
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>>92456484
Because everyone knows it was ol' floppy dong.
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>>92456484
Not OP but an anon leaked the entire issue several hours ago.
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>>92456405
>>92456419
>>92456424
>>92456431
WHAT IN THE FUCK IS GOING ON?!
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>>92456259
>Remember that time you become impotent?
>It was me, Barry! Me!
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>>92456424
PRIME TIME INCOMING!!!
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>>92456403
OH SHI-
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>>92456266
>HYPERTIME
It's real!
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>>92456504

Superman and Manhattan are going to have an ideological battle for the soul of the DC universe. It's not going to be an event so I'm not even mad
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>>92456510
>Remember that time you couldn't get it up at Makeout Point?
>It was me, Barry! Me!
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>>92456362
So who is Jay's lightning rod?
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>>92456510
>Remember when you lost virginity to your foster parent Barry?
>It was me, Barry! Me!
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Well this was fucking awesome.
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>>92456266
>Remember that time your Dad hit you?
>It was me, Barry! Me! I was your Dad!
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>>92456352
>there are people that think this is the end of jay

It's just like the Legion, this stuff is being teased for the future. They want to bring them back in but give people enough hype to buy into it. JSA and Legion have been seriously underrated for the longest time.
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>>92456531

Johnny Thunder
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>>92456531
Johnny Thunder, I'd assume. He still remembers the JSA.
It'll probably end up with him remembering Jay and pulling him out and then causing a domino effect.
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>>92456531
JSA
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>>92456526
So everything will be solved with Talk no Jutsu?
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>>92456387
This was honestly such a pointless crossover which doesn't suprise me because all DC crossovers have been pointless since Rebirth started.

Though, this page made me laugh. He remember his father telling him to let Batman die, but he doesn't care about the part where he told him to spend time with his son. This the Batman I know and love (I'm being serious here).
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>>92456510
Remember that time it was DIO?
It was me, Barry! Me!
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>>92456313
FLASH OF TWO WORLDS
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>>92456515
That's not Prime's S
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BEST ERA TO BE A DC FAN CONFIRMED

DR MANHATTAN V SUPERMAN
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>>92456403
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>>92456581
What can supes even do to blue dong man.
Share his undies?
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>>92456567
I liked it.
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FINAL CONSENSUS ON THE BUTTON?

AWESOME OR NOT AWESOME?
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>>92456606
I'm still convinced this entire thing is just a plan by Manhattan to get his hands on Superman's Red Trunks.
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>>92456606
Super Morality, Dongu no longer has morality
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>>92456606
He doesn't have any undies to share.
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>>92456606
Punch him in the face. Same way he beat anti-monitor.
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>>92456606

Talk. The best Superman stories aren't about him punching his problems away
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>>92456606
He could easily solo Silver Surfer, who's about on Manhattan's level.

Of course this could be a more powerful version of Manhattan compared to the low level matter manipulator in Watchmen.
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>>92456623
>>92456639
Why would Dongu care about morality of a guy he doesnt even know.
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>>92456615
Well, this crossover is literally best thing happened in comics in last year.
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>>92456641
I still want to see someone fight Superman: Herald of Galactus wielding Mjolnir.
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>>92456615
High 8/10 for me. And if this crossover actually effects the characters till at least november, it can be a 9.
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>>92456615
It was everything modern cape comics should be. If you've been on board since rebirth it's a must read. Buying two copies today.
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>>92456285
This page always confuses me

What did zoom mean by he didnt know?
Is he aware of Manhattan's existence but didnt expect the latter to be the one behind all of it?
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>>92456403
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>>92456606
>>92456627

Seriously I think Manhattan should be wearing the trunks. As ridiculous as it sounds they represent the era of optimism that Johns is talking about and what Manhattan is trying o do away with. So instead of Superman being in awe of the Doc he should just casually say "I believe those belong to me"
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>>92456352
F
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>>92456676
He didn't expect to see a giant blue dong flopping in Hypertime and the sight of it literally burned his life away.
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>>92456650
He doesn't care about anything, Superman will try and change that.

He'll save him by giving him his humanity back
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>>92456531
JSA/Thunder
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>>92456650

He does know him. He's actively been ruining Superman's life

>>92456615

Make a poll
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>>92456615
A big meh. Maybe the doomsday thing will be better.
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>>92456676
Zoom glimpsed Manhattans perspective of time and undid himself with his own paradox maybe?
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>>92456387
>Ah fuck it, Swamp-Thing needs my help
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>>92456313
FUCKING PRAISE REBIRTH.
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>>92456345
>he's an older man again
>the JSA was real
>everyone has forgotten them
Tearing up here guys.
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>>92456352
>>92456362
>it's a Barry fucks up episode
FUCK YOU BARRY YOU HAD ONE FUCKING JOB.
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First off, everyone calm down. Dr. Manhattans feats in Watchmen weren't even that great. Superman has easily beaten bigger threats. Blue make-you-explode Man isn't as badass as you thi-
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>>92456403
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>>92456752

Anon...?
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>>92456266
Barry, why insist to save this jerk?
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>>92456465
>nothing happened.
Original thawne is back
Teasing the return of jay
Teasing the LoSH
Blue Dongs first appearance
Bruce contemplating retirement
>all in a single month.
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>No Red Robin

booo
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>>92456352
Talk about getting blueballed.
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>>92456224
I'm pretty sure this issue is the entire reason there was a Jay Garrick premium skin in Injustice 2 on launch day.
That makes me happy.
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>>92456313
he is returned!
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>>92456780

Just find solace in the fact that Tim is important enough for OZ to protect him
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>>92456419
>>92456424
So did the camera zoom in so close to the blood that some tiny microscopic Supes symbol became visible? Maybe implying that Superman is in all superheroes DNA? Or was it more of just a cut to Supes shield then zoom out?
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>>92456266
>thinking about pulling the Luthor special
takes moxie
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>>92456547
Speaking of.

I suppose we're to assume that his and the JSA's existence is one of memories Wally lost? He told him in Rebirth that he had to find the JSA and he's never mentioned them or Johnny again since.
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>>92456387
>9 panel page of Bruce looking out 9 panel window
Bravo
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>>92456772
RF came back before this crossover
Fuck this teasing
Manhattan already confirmed in Rebirth #1
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>>92456752
This was funny but manhattan wouldn't be so petty and blow someone up for talking shit about him.
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>>92456328
>nothing of value
Except for Flash explicitly mentioning that Jay might need a different "lightning rod" to bring Jay back so we know he will be back in the future, probably in a future story arc; Batman contemplates leaving the mantle behind due to words of his father; for the first time we get EXPLICIT confirmation that it was Dr Manhattan all along, including on-panel sighting; and get a confirmation of an event where Superman and Manhattan will fight.

That is what you call "nothing of value"? Sure, it's mostly setting up future events, but noone expected this story to be anything else.
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>>92456871

Tell that to Pandora
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>>92456856
RF came back FOR this crossver.
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>>92456285
>Show yourself you ridiculously powerful mysterious being
>holy shit you're a blue naked human
>I didn't realise, please don't kill me
What exactly is so shocking about Manhattan?
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>>92456890
I think he was talking about what he felt, because at that moment Manhattan started to disintegrate him or something.
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>>92456890
The Dong.
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Excellent issue.
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You know what would be cool? If the original versions of Charleston characters that were adapted into Watchmen characters somehow player a role in this entire Watchmen plot thread.
I mean, Captain Atom, Blue Beetle and Question are semi-popular characters in DC verse now, you could say they're alternate universe counterparts or something..
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Thanks, OP.
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Supermans gonna beat the living shit out of Manhattan
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>>92456701
Except he's back in Flash 25
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>>92456965
They make a point in this crossover to mention that Thawne could have run anywhere in time before dying.

Explaining away future appearances.
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>>92456424
Holy Shit I got it! This means Manhattan really did steal the trunks!
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>>92456890
>I dont want to d-
I think we all know what was gonna happen
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>>92456985
Yeah I'm just saying because of that I don't think his whole paradox is undone. Manhattan could kill him however much he wants but he'll be back.
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>>92456352

>Blue energy

MANHATTAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAN!

He zinged both Kyle and the Flashes now
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Anyone who enjoyed the button is a peice of shit and should die in hell. That was the most stupid story I have ever read. It's all about the fucking hype and nothing about the story. Fuck DC. Fuck you guys. Fuck everything, this is bullshit.
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>>92456387
>>92456396
>>92456403
>>92456419
>>92456424
Comics need to go back to the 9-panel grid, this shit is amazing compositionally.
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>>92456615

It was kinda meh until this issue (But then again, it makes sense, it's the end). A lots of little things happened, which i believe would be expanded in the future. Also, im glad to see Jay again.
7/10, would read again.
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>>92457068
Do you hate all current Big Two events at all?
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>>92457068

I'm glad you're mad
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>>92457068
>Muh precious Alan Moore

I like Alan Moore but let's not pretend he didn't build a career taking other people's characters and concepts and repurposing them with somewhat intelligent writing.
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>>92457068
This.
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>>92457099
Reborn was a-okay.
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>>92457068
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>>92457068
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>>92456403
It would've been nice if Manhattan held up the button palm up, Hand Of Creation style.
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>>92456317
Don't post an image in the middle of a story time faggot
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>>92456615
If you don't think this is one of the most awesome things this year then cape comics are simply not for you
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>>92456664
The spirit of vengeance induced venom-hulk preferably
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>>92457068
Bendis pls, go to sleep
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>>92456558
The book will be 6-12 issues long, Johns isn't sure yet, so there's definitely going to be some punching somewhere, but I really doubt a single punch will be thrown between Superman and Doctor Manhattan
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>>92456880
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>>92457068
go read squirrel girl you fag
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>>92456313
I HAVE THE FASTEST BONER RIGHT NOW.

THAT DOESN'T MAKE ANY SENSE!

DOESN'T MATTER! GET HYPE NIGGAS!
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>>92457068
>That was the most stupid story I have ever read.
>being so normie that you haven't read cry for justice or countdown
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>>92456285
Come on, Thawne. Doc Manhattan's penis isn't THAT horrendous.
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>>92456313
Look at him he's amazing
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>>92456989
Or Supes put them away.
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>>92456266
Is Thawne /ourguy/? And does anyone have the silver age page of Lex doing similar?
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>>92457356
What's so bad about countdown?
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So we didn't actually learn anything new, awesome. Technically Manhattan was confirmed, but that was already super obvious to literally everyone. I was really hoping they would use this as the opportunity to actually explain all the shit they threw at us.

Remember pic related?
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>>92457068
>That was the most stupid story I have ever read.
The idea of there being a second Captain America underminded the entire setup of Secret Empire, Mr. Spencer. Any momentum the story had is now lost.
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>>92457374
It's so small that it's terrifying
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>>92457510
Of all the things teased in Rebirth, I can't believe this hasn't been followed up on in the least.
Even the next arc of Batman which is Joker-centric can't address it because it takes place in the past.
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>>92457553
All of the rebirth event shit has been built as many "OH SHIT" moments as possible without actually feeling like they need to explore what they just said/did. A good example is Wally.

>OH SHIT, OG Wally's back!

Except he's just gonna briefly mention the fact that he's from the universe every now and then, and for all intents and purposes will just be a New 52/Rebirth character who doesn't remember what happened.
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Really digging Jays minor redesign
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>>92457510
>people still don't get that Batman just know about reboots now
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>>92457105
Fuck Moore. It isn't about him. This "story" is shit
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>>92457597
To be fair, (and I'm not a Wallyfag so maybe I don't know) what should be happening now that Wally's back? I didn't expect anything more since it was revealed that Abra threw him into the timestream rather than Manhattan.
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>>92457553
>Even the next arc of Batman which is Joker-centric can't address it because it takes place in the past.

It can by revealing information from The Jokers POV. Like maybe The Riddler does successfully kill The Joker but someone else takes that mantle. Personally I think it will be a Superman reborn situation.
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>>92457695
Having a character from the previous universe interacting with all the other characters regularly should drastically change a lot of dynamics, as that character knows what "really" happened. This goes for Superman as well.
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I bet this will all lead to the justice society of America being reborn
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>>92457746
Read Superman reborn nigga.
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>>92457741
>Like maybe The Riddler does successfully kill The Joker but someone else takes that mantle
Not a chance in Hell this happens
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>>92457760
I have. But the fact remains that despite he himself dealing with the new Universe stuff (and I do actually like that a lot) it still doesn't affect anyone he knows outside of his own ongoing.
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>>92456313
BEST PAGE! 10/10!
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>>92457794
Yeah probably not. I am actually looking forward to The War of Jokes and Riddles but will be disappointed if it doesn't touch on the 3 Jokers plot point
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>>92457809
It doesnt effect anyone he knows because besides Bruce and Wondy no one else knows that Supermans history was altered and now has been fixed. Now that I think about it Bruce is sitting on a big pile of Rebirth secrets he isnt telling anyone.
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>>92457877
>Bruce is sitting on a big pile of [...] secrets he isnt telling anyone.

Sounds about right
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>>92456266
Only Thawne would try to pull this silver age plot with a straight face, I love it.
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>>92456293
hell be fine
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>>92456266
Someone post the panel where Lex goes back in time to make himself Superman's father
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>>92456615
It was okay, but it's only a small part of something much bigger. I think It'll read better with the Rebirth one shot and Doomsday Clock.
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>>92456320
TV Flash is kinda similar in the fact that he becomes Barry's mentor and almost another father figure
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>>92456532
Wasnt there an authority villain that went back in time during a fight to molest the team in their teenage years? I imagine Thawne is the kind of guy to do the same
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Has Barry never met New Earth-2 Jay?
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>>92457990
He doesn't care. He blew up his old continuity for a shot at saving his mom. Barry is the worst.
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>tease us with Jay
>take Jay back
I am displeased.
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>>92456313
BRING BACK THE FUCKING JSA RIGHT NOW! WRITTEN BY GEOFF JOHNS TYVM!
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They wouldnt add Doomsday to Doomsday Clock would they? Also the sooner Jay comes back the better
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>>92458077
Mr OZ has doomsday locked up so we'll most likely see him
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>>92458052
Story with Kent Nelson taking back the mantle of Fate from that sandnigger and bringing back the JSA when? WHEN?
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>>92456403
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>92456439
>those crossovers

holy shit, my sides
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>>92458096
Now can we finally all admit that Mr. OZ is OZymandias?
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>>92457075

Watchmen used it, and it's been used for that reason a few times in these "The Button" stories so far as a callback to Watchmen
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johns is a hack
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>>92457524
He prefers to call it "dainty."
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>>92457510
Did anyone screencap the thread in which this was revealed?
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>>92456224
So for those wondering what the point of this issue was, This is the lensticular cover. Look at the bottom left corner: https://twitter.com/MrHowardPorter/status/862668602444574723)
Everyone's favorite comic reporter also said that last week's page of Detective Comics was also changed, namely Batman's reasons for seeking out Zatanna.
Bruce was probably going to find out about Tim in this issue.
http://archive.is/RBcBk

The solicit for Detective Comics #959 also backs that spoiler up.
>“Intelligence” part two! While his team comes to grips with Azrael’s past, Batman is on the trail of the shocking secret he learned at the end of last month's epic BATMAN/FLASH crossover, “The Button”—and it's brought him directly to the Mistress of Magic, Zatanna!
http://www.newsarama.com/33251-dc-comics-may-2017-solicitations.html
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>>92456615
First and last issues were top tier. Middle two were shit. 7/10
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>>92456531
JSA. Maybe Joan.
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>>92456345
>>92456352

>retrieval failed
>insufficient nakama power
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>>92456266
>Remember that time you thought you forgot your lunch after school but it was just in your bacpack IT WAS ME BARRY!
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>>92458281
So they changed 'Tec issue because of Tim. And then this issue doesn't mention Tim at all. Makes sense
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>>92456313
FLASH! AAaahh!
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>>92456285
Sure you can't be erased but you can still get killed dumbass
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>>92456286
Casual.
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>>92456387
Of manhatten you blue dicked bastard you wanted Thomas to tell his son to stop being Batman (wich will never happen) so you kept his reality on life support
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>>92456493
Batman is now unsure if he wants to continue being Batman. Manhattan has put the doubt in his mind so he might not be there when Superman needs him.
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>>92456493
>>92458281
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>>92456303
>the voices, barry!
>they call to me!
When is that ever a good idea?
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>>92456615
Big fat boring meh. Another mediocre story overhyped by manchildren.
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>>92457990
Nope
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>>92456472

Tom king does this all the time, he's doing it right now in Batman #23 which is unrelated to the Watchmen.
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>>92457068
>no one has proved you wrong yet
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>>92456293
BLUED
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>>92458281
That does sound like a pretty major developement, why would they scratch it? The event was good but it lacked consequence.
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>>92457068
I think it's partially because one of its twists got removed/pushed back.
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>>92458778
Mother fucker.. But.. as Manhattan tries to take away bat's motivation, he fucks up and opens the door for Jay to confirm Barry's overwhelming sense of hope he mentioned feeling. God giveth and god taketh away..
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>>92456685
I think Manhattan might show up with Superman's basic costume "burned onto" himself the way he did the hydrogen atom on his forehead.
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>>92456465
>not enjoying in a slow burn story
eat shit dude
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>>92456936
That should happen, and I wouldn't be surprised if it does.
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>>92456259
Is Prof Zoom literally the most Op character in DC right now? He is faster than Barry and CAN'T FUCKING DIE
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>>92456259
So is the Trial of Barry Allen cannon or is Thawn remembering postCrisis shit?
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>>92459274
lol ok Williamson
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>>92456531
My guess is Johnny "this is my stand" Thunder
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>>92456685
I'm gonna draw this
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>>92456465
>>92456493
>>92457068

Screw the haters. I have a feeling what DC is doing right now with this story line is the beginning of a new period in mainstream Cape comics. I seriously believe fans in the future will look back at The Button, and Rebirth as a pivotal moment before the shift. They will try and imagine what it must have been like to experience this when it was first released.

>>92456581
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>>92459410
Woah, I liked the crossover, but let's not get too carried away.
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>>92458017
>He doesn't care. He blew up his old continuity for a shot at saving his mom. Barry is the worst.
No, Ethan van Sciver is.
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>>92456431
> Brad Anderson
Finally the Watchmen/DCU/Marmaduke crossover we've all been demanding
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>>92459410
I wouldn't say it's a "new period".

But it sure is going to be weird to look back and see the New 52. I guess it'll be regarded as an oddity the way we look at Heroes Reborn

>hey /co/, remember that time Superman listened to Lois getting fucked?
>remember that time Alan Scott was like twenty years old, and gay?
>remember that time they introduced the JSA and focused it all on Batman and Superman
>remember when DC started pushing this Justice League origin really hard, even though it sucked?
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>>92456439

> WW/Taz by the same writer behind the KFC comic books
My body is ready for all of these
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>>92456266

Okay I want to see someone write a story where this actually happens at some point. It's pure Silver Age madness.
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>>92456431
Lmao, countdown to a new shitty Johns comic
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>>92459592
>Lmao
you must be 18+ to post on 4chan
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>>92459626
Oh yeah sorry.

"Kek, countdown to "doomsday" appropriate for the release of a new shitty Johns comic"
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>>92459591
>It's pure Silver Age madness.
> Thawne takes Barry in
> eventually starts to care for the kid
> another reverse-Zoom comes back to punish them for this
> fight ensues
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>>92456238

>Reverse Flash Dies

>literally comes back within 3 issues

uhhh okay.
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>>92456772
>Original thawne is back
old stuff
>Teasing the return of jay
old stuff, they have been teasing the JSA already
>Teasing the LoSH
old stuff, they have been teasing it no stop
>Blue Dongs first appearance
woah, what a shocker
>Bruce contemplating retirement
yeah I am sure their best selling character is going to retire and stay retired

literally a waste of time
I can't believe how easy is for this board to overhype a DC comic just because it has some cheap pandering
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>>92456266

I wonder if Lex is mad that Eobard is trying to steal his idea.
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>>92459704
>it has no surprises I didn't already know about
Go read Secret Empire then.
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>>92460117
>read capeshit
>has no surprises
>you already know the ending (they are going to win and maybe something minor will change for a couple years)
>you already know who is coming back too

Wtf, I love consuming this stuff
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>>92456813
No. It should zoomed in on the blood then zoomed out on the Superman symbol.
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>>92460140
>Wtf, I love consuming this stuff
Then what are you doing here besides attempting to show your superiority
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>>92456531
Historically, it'd have been Joan.

But she probably doesn't exist on this Earth, so... presumably Johnny Thunder who was teased back in Rebirth.
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>>92456531
His wife.
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>>92456345
>>92456352
OH COME ON
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>>92456431
Am i the only one that thinks that Doomsday is going to fight Supes on this arc?
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>>92461393
Johns said Doomsday the title is a ruse intentionally meant to evoke Doomsday the character and his connection to Superman, but he won't actually be appearing
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>>92456439
DAFFY DOESN'T GET ONE.
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>>92456345
>They took everything from me
>They

!?!?!?!

Could it be its not Dr Manhattan fault?
Look at the energy here >>92456285
and they way RF is dying >>92456293
, doesn't look like your typical Manhattan >>92456403
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>>92456890
That for us is just a fictitious character that exists in a two-dimensional comic book, but for him us we are only beings that exist in 3D reality while watching us on a higher plane of existence
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>>92456224
Is the one that's burning away an actual golden age comic's cover?
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>>92456403
O.O
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>>92461839
Yes.
The Lensticular cover makes it more obvious.
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>>92462082
>O.O
Kill yourself, dumb tripfag
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>>92456286
On the flashpoint comic, batman kills him with a magical sword from one of the amazons. Otherwise he would just vibrate through the bullet.
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>>92456266
Isn't this pretty similar to what he did in the TV series?
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>>92456403
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>>92457068
>That was the most stupid story I have ever read
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>>92461688
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>>92456515
I would cum
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>>92462686
sorry the satire was too smart for you
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>>92460153
>saying a shit story is shit is the same as saying you're superior
Do you know how delusional you sound retard?
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>>92456431
>Gary Frank drawing Superman again
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>>92458195
I assume anon would know that. Watchmen isn't the only one to have used a 9-grid. In general pages these days are just splashes with a panel or two thrown on top. which isn't necessarily bad but I agree with anon that I wish we could see more structure and the 9-grid is quite nice.

I've read watchmen and I get that it is unsubtle to use it the way they have but the way people speak in these threads its as if gibbons and moore created it.
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>>92462761
well what do you honestly expect from Johns, he is a one trick pony
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>>92459206
Barry and Thawne somehow remember more than anybody. I don't think even Wally recalled as much of the pre-Crisis stuff as Barry did.

But Flash's Silver Age history was somehow canon all through post-Crisis, even though it would logically make Barry older than all the other JL heroes...
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>their faces reflected in his helmet

my fucking sides
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>>92462915
>>92459206
...Well, except for all those silly stories about Eobard wanting to be a gangster and constantly trying to cuck Barry and Ollie. Probably. At least, New Earth had him fixate on his hate on Barry, not his Bronze Age era lust on Iris and, one time, Canary.
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>>92456567
It was just a bridge between Rebirth and Doomsday Clock, it was a tease for things to come.
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>>92459591
>>92456320
>>92456266

TV Flash did it already.

"I know that rage. I used to feel that rage every time I looked upon you. And now, somehow, I know what Joe and Henry feel when they look on you with pride. With love. "
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>>92456266
I'm happy Zoom still remembers the Acolytes arc.
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>>92456272
Ha! Still using Zolomon's tricks, Thawne?

Though it really never made sense for Zolomon to have the snap, when his powers were non-kinetic in nature. Waid didn't think it through when he was making "his" Reverse-Flash more original.
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>>92457940
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>>92456431
>it's a "Superman solves everything as usual" event

Is Final Crisis the only event where all heroes had something to do and weren't just standing around to be useless but actually put their skills at use
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>>92463313
the way Johns was describing it made it seem like Doomsday Clock wouldn't be a massive crossover, just Manhattan unstoppable forcing against Superman's immovable object
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>>92456352
Fuck you Barry, fuck you :'(
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>>92456313
It's been six years
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>>92462731
If only.
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>>92459410
I wouldn't go too far to say it's a new era of cape comics but it's certainly an "awakening" of sorts for DC after so many years of completely atrocious editorial decisions.
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>>92456615

More enjoyable than the last 4 or more Marvel events I've read, and only in 4 $2.99 issues, instead of 8-10 at 4.99.

and its progressing the mystery.... I havent felt hyped about an ongoing storyline like this since i watched LOST as it was airing, not knowing exactly wtf is going on as you go is part of the fun of it all, and the kind of thing that excites me about comics
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>>92463576
Fucking hell, for the last time finna is a permutation of fixin' to not feeling or whatever you're "thinna".

It's Southern slang redundantly filtered through ebonics and means you intend to do something imminently, and sometimes ominously if intended as a warning.
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>>92463227
Zoom was created by Johns.
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>>92462140
>No. 1
Should've figured. Thank you.
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>>92456431
>Ridiculous Watchmen/Justice League Crossover
Meh.
>Johns writing it
HRRRGGGG! Ah dammit, now I'm gonna have to at least pay attention.
Well at least he's doing something other than putting out WB's fires.
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>>92457068
Calm down Spencer.
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>>92464060
Have you forgotten how LOST ended?
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>>92457691
No one believes you.
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>>92457990
Only in Convergence, but I don't think that counts.
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>>92463260
What was his greatest? Did it involve more than 36 pastries?
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>>92456413
you're just delusional if you thought it would be anything else, anon
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>>92456439
why havent I heard of this until now

this sounds amazing
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>>92456531
his wife Joan

who is probably dead by now
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>>92456313
JAY UP IN THIS PIECE

Makes no sense and I don't care!
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>>92459484
Ha.
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I'm just waiting for an Eobard ongoing. Some day I'll achieve my dream
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Anyone notice that Jays hair is brown and his face is younger looking when he's still in the time stream with them, and then as soon as he's back in reality he ages up?

Does this mean all of the JSA will age up when they return?
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>>92464494
they were announced a moth or 2 ago,we had threads on /co/
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>>92464205

I was okay with how it ended, because i actually got invested in the show and other than it triggering people with religious allegories that had been constant the whole show I honestly didnt see what all the screeching was about.

I do remember spending 5 or so years watching one of the most intriguing tv shows on network tv at the time, reading all the different theories and ideas and digging into details people did online was so great.
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>>92456293
The way the artist drew Thawne's face and pose, it looks like that attack just made him angry instead of killing him.
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>>92464725
Well, Johnny Thunder is already pretty old so it might be.
Either that or the Speed Force was keeping Jay young.
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I don't get it, why is Barry blaming Thawne? Wally already said to him it wasn't Thawne. I guess he forgot.

And why would Barry think Thawne's death has something with the missing time? What sense does that make? Williamson is a fucking hack.
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>>92464205
Fuck you, it was a great end.
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>>92464630
>Eobard ongoing

Eobard can't carry an ongoing, he is just a one trick pony.

The only book worth to be ongoing is a Reverse Flash family book where more interesting characters like Zolomon and Thad balance him out.
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>>92456531
Old canon would require it to be his wife. But since Rebirth lightning rods are diminished to anyone who counts as a close friend/comrade/family. Barry and Titans are Wally's rod now so JSA and Johnny should be Jay's.
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so now thawne is gonna be back by flash 23?
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>>92456989
I'll laugh my fucking ass off if when Manhattan shows up he's wearing the trunks
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>>92465019
>Button appears on the night Wally came back
>Thawne steals button
>Thawne vanishes
>Thawne returns,half evaporated and without the button, claiming to have seen God before dying
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>>92456615
Awesome
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>>92457068
He's right, I'm not really a big fan of watchmen, but this seemed like a shit ton of hype, and nothing happened in the damn crossover, Flashpoint is overhyped, it seemed cool for bruce to meet thomas, but in the end that was underwhelming....And now I just really dislike barry for not saving jay, Jay told Barry his goddamn name, and Barry fucking stuttered.
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>>92456285
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0Qu7X_2G_3k
Drawfags lurking here. Please be kind to do this
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>>92459524
>Superman listened to Lois Lane getting fucked

D-did this really happen?
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>>92456615
The first issue was the best one. The second one felt somwhat unnecesary, not much really happened. While it had some good moments and use of paneling/structure, I feel like it answered too little and didn't have as many consequences as it could have. I'll say it's between a 7 and an 8 out of 10
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>>92466335
First thing that came to mind
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>>92459524
>>remember that time they introduced the JSA and focused it all on Batman and Superman
that was good tho, they deserve it more than those hasbeens no one gives a crap about other than hipsters too cool for popular heroes
especially considering they are both as old or older than most of the JSA anyway
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>>92457068
Don't be mad Spencer, now that they Button is over at least you might actually have a chance to get the highest selling comic for the month.
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>>92456396
>>92456403
>>92456419
>>92456424
>>92456431
Say what you will about the story but this build-up is being masterfully done.
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>>92456676
Dr. Manhattan wasnt alone. Thawne recognizes the other person.
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>>92463260

We need someone to redo this page but with Barry and Eobard.
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>>92467852

but who?
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>>92456313
Speedsters are the fucking best. They fix the crises and they run so fucking fast they literally escape from reboots.

Fuck. Yes.
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>>92467979
Theories point to Superboy Prime. Otherwise it doesnt make sense why would Manhattan even care about Superman and the DC universe.
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Why does Manhattan give two shits about the button again?
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>>92456547
On the seventh of July, Johnny Thunder will celebrate his 100th birthday. I wonder if any of the books will touch up on that.
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>>92456403
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH *deep breath* AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
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>>92467979
>Someone blue.
>Someone from a broken world.
>Someone who is practically insane due to his own powers.
Who indeed?
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>>92465345
But why would Thawne have to do anything with it? Wally already said to Barry that Thawne wasn't responisble. And Thawne's death happened after the missing time.
>>
Wowzers I'm confused. Why did /ourguy/ Barry have. a crossover with watchmen in the first place? Was Watchmen always published under DC? Most importantly, why did they kill off the greatest antagonist
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>>92468206
>Was Watchmen always published under DC?
Are you seriously having to ask such a question about something that was published over 30 years ago.
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>>92466151
>They found out that the button lead Thawne to an entity he called "God"
>They found out that someone was mantaining the Flashpoint reality alive
>Thomas met Bruce and said to him that he doesn't have to being Batman, platning the seeds of doubt to him as showed in the Batsignal scene. Johns said this was on purpose and someone wants to take Bruce out of the picture.
>Barry learned that another Flash named Jay exists and he's getting captive.

As a bridge between Rebirth and Doomsday Clock it was very good.
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>>92456224
>>92456250
If this is The Button part 4,then what issue is part 3?
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>>92468527
batman 22
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>>92459592
>Shitting on the guy that revived DC with just a rainbow.
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>>92456224
Holy crap what is that
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>>92468098
Because it's a clue leading back to him. When Wally came back temporarily in the cave he said that pieces of existence from all kinds of worlds were whirling about. The button (probably because of its inherent link to the world Manhattan is from) came shooting out inadvertently. And due to the nature of its arrival it's heavily doused in BlueDong Radiation. This whole crossover is basically Manhattan covering his own ass. First attempt is him reviving Thawne in the hopes that he will kill Batman or severely take him out of commission. But of course /ourguy/ Thawne sees the power of the button and has to have it. Seeing exactly how much that could fuck shit up for him, Blue yoinks him and leads him to his death. When Flash, and Bats decide to try and follow, He decides to put to use the Flashpoint reality he's kept on life support and mentally fuck Batman into doubt and consideration of retirement so that he'll stop pulling threads.
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>>92468769
Cliff Cornwall
>>
Wonder if Red Robin was supposed to come back here or something before Williamson took over last issue from King, why else would they randomly shove him on the cover?
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>>92456885
He's gonna be in the next flash arc, if anything this made it more convuluted, and lessened his appearence in the next arc
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>>92456945
If there is any physical conflict between supes and manhattan, my guess is that he has to sing really loudly with all of the Multiverse's supermen, like in final crisis
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>>92456224
>TFW work and time have made it so you can buy comic once enough
>TFW your'e on issue #17
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>>92458108
Kent's got the helmet back in Giffen's Blue Beetle.
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>>92456313
YEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHH BOIIIIIIII
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>>92456615
A lot better than I thought it would be.
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>>92456615
awesome.
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>>92456752
a-anon?
you dont seriously expect me to believe that blue dick showed up t
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>>92456266
>>92456259
>>92456250
Does Zoom hate Barry or what ? i just don't get their relationship. I thought he hate him because he had been doing so many things as possible to make barry pain and miserable.
But while doing these, he also often talk about making him a better hero or even went as far as wanting to be his father figure. What's his deal anyway ?
>>
>>92465251
25
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>>92470988
Professor Zoom started out as a Flash Fanboy. He saw through time travel that he was destined to be his worst enemy, and decided he would be.

Zoom (Hunter Solomon) likes Wally West and wants to make him a better hero by ruining his life.
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>>92456796
>No Wally west skin
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>>92456313
I'm tired of this endless appeal to nostalgia
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>>92471648

So am I anon..so am I

To make you happy.

https://strawpoll.com/gg6dbr5
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>>92456387
Nice copypaste
>>
So...whatever happened to Bart Allen?
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>>92456431
>superman dies, again
>We get superbro back
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>>92456615

Could have been better, but still good.
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>>92472776
Superman is Superbro.
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>>92462797
I had the opposite reaction, i hate the stupid unnecessary Reeves wankery
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>>92457510
kek
This was a year ago and it's killing me
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>>92456419
>>92456424
>>92456431

Remember in Watchmen when they misquoted that guy?

>"The superman is REAL and he's an American!"

>"No I said... GOD.. is real...and he's an American."

And now

>Superman's been divided and put together and divided.

>Oz is messing with him

>Oz has Doomsday caught in his prison thing.

>"Doomsday Clock"

Where are all these strings tying together? Is Oz Ozmandias trying to make another monster like he did before with Doomsday as a base? Is he combining Doomsday and Superman (been done to death) to fight Manhattan? I don't know. But it's obviously tying together in that direction.
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>>92473902
Johns said Doomsday in the title is a ruse, Doomsday is not appearing
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All this time stuff and blue lightings makes me believe Manhattan hooked himself to the speedforce
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>>92468859
Thawne was still alive, he just got his memory back, and I'm pretty sure that's just speedforce shenanigans.
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>>92473939

I'll accept that. I still wonder why Oz has Doomsday then?
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>>92471713
>https://strawpoll.com/gg6dbr5
I miss her so much, on both the seires and the comic, even before the Flashpoint I was hoping to see Barry hooking up with her.
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>>92458259
It was kind of a clusterfuck because it's shoveled in with all the other reveals of the Rebirth one-shot plus some guy posted all the spoilers in text the night before the storytime anyway.
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>>92456396

what is up with the debris? like there is writing on it? and the one on the left has what appears to be an eye?
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>>92456622
>>92456685
>>92456989
>>92465300
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>>92458077
Johns said he won't.
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>>92459206
The Trial was canon in post-Crisis, too.
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>>92456431
30 SECONDS TILL PRIME TIME
:^)
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>>92468171
Anons suggesting Captain Adam instead of Manhattan seem to miss the fact that he's a straight up superhero. The guy likes comics and was trying to use his symbolic significance to help the president save earth 4. He seemed genuinely fascinated with superman in SB 3d and understood the value of life beyond it's physical components. Hell, he's part of the superman archetrope. In many aspects he's the opposite of manhattan.
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>>92456567
Bruce is an aweful father. I honestly can't believe he has a canon son who he doesn't give a single fuck about and basically has abused him by not letting him have a childhood.
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>>92475925
Damian's mother and grandfather took away his childhood well before Bruce got involved
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Next week it will have been exactly a year since rebirth began. Time really does fly by.
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>>92456531

Kind of obvious.
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>>92476184
speaking of, where's Starman in all this business
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>>92475925
What do you expect from someone who has been so traumatized by the death of his parents that he dresses up as a bat? At least he isn't All-Star Batman levels of bad parenting.
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>/co/ loves to suck the dick of dc and hate on Marvel
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>>92476223

We don't know. Barry remembers the Shade. Starman was in continuity. But-- nobody remembers the JSA portion.
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>>92473736
His eyes crackle and his beard is shaven after hearing the answer?
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>>92476304
well maybe when Marvel decides to publish halfway decent comics again, /co/ will come around
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>>92476184

Isn't he more close to Ted?
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>>92476304

Because Marvel comics are currently shit and the people behind them are absolute cunts.
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>>92456286
Here you go.
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>>92476377
being an immortal will make you a lot of archenemies
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>>92476377

He was close to Ted and Jay.
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>>92468171

Wrong Multiversity character.
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>>92476400
A N A T T O S E C O N D
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>>92476304
>/co/ loves good comics and hats bad comics

Huh really nudges the neurons.
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>>92476304
Because adventures of robo nigress and reddit girl are so much more interesting, right?
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So...

If shenanigans happen and we are given the Comedian and Rorschach in the DC Universe, does that mean the events of Watchmen cease to be? They would have to be plucked from their universe before they died, right?
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>>92456285
>>92456293
>>92456403
Yeah, I think this definitely confirms Manhattan's a red herring. He never generated an aura when he disintegrated people. Sure, there was usually a burst of light, but not an energy trail prior to vaporization.
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>>92476999
Johns confirmed it's not a sequel to the events of watchmen. If they appear, it will probably be more as symbols than as actual characters. Like the pin.
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>>92477125
Because DC literally can't make a sequel or say they are making a sequel to Watchmen or the rights revert back to Moore.
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>>92477125
>>92477137
Oh, I get that. Both things. But there has to be a canonically correct reason for these things to make it to the DC Universe, right? Like, Watchmen doesn't take place in any of the 52 Earths so it must be it's own thing in some other universe.

I know they can't do a sequel to Watchmen, but they would have to have a sound reason for the other human characters to be in the story, wouldn't they? John makes sense as he is Le Mystic Blueberry Penis Man but how would anyone else cross over with no explanation? I don't think John would just throw these people into the DC Universe for no reason; they would either have to explain why he brought them with him or how they came over themselves (maybe to stop John?).

Sooooo, it would be hard to say, "Hey, look everyone! It's The Comedian but I brought him back to life AFTER Watchmen ended!" without it being seen as a sequel, right? For either Comedian or Rorschach to appear, they would have to be taken from their universe before the ending of the story itself; thus rendering the events of Watchmen as never taking place.
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>>92477399
why do you assume anyone but Manhattan and maybe Ozymandias is involved with the story at all?
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>>92477454
Honestly? I don't. But I really do not see DC passing along on something like this without trying to at least have a good chunk of the Watchmen cast along for the ride somehow.

I really, really hope it's just Manhattan and (maybe) Ozy but if that's not the case then I just want to have a discussion on how they could theoretically bring them into the DC universe without: a) fucking up the Watchmen timeline and b) not technically telling a sequel after the events of the first.
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>>92477399
His name is Jon, as in Jonathan.
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>>92477573
Yeah, I realized as soon as I hit submit that I fucked up. Soon I will be vaporized.
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>>92477137
Moore doesn't even fucking want the rights. He hates everything he's written for the big 2 and wants it all to go away. Shit, he gave all of his royalties for the movie to Dave Gibbons because he wanted no part of it, not even his name on it.
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>>92477672
What a whiny prima donna.
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>>92456352
How is that Barry's fault? I don't get why you people are saying that
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>>92456379
Whoa, hold the fuck on here. Why wouldn't they be buried at Wayne Manor?!
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>>92472776
Superbro is Superman now technically.
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>>92456510
Remember when I ate your Five Guys, Barry? It was me!
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>>92478189
Because people want to blame Barry for everything.
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>>92456880
And Metron. People are saying he won't beat Supes when he was able to kill a New God.
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>>92476615
He was practically orgasmic while gloating over Barry's fuck up, he was distracted
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>>92478572
kek
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>>92456266
>you're too late
>I'm here

wew
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