Toonami Ratings for 5/13/17

>>92439801
Teds Tacos really struggled this week


8:00 Dragon Ball Super 0.50 866 0.33 426
8:30 Bob’s Burgers (r) 0.42 676 0.26 333
9:00 Rick & Morty (r) 0.45 800 0.31 392
9:30 Rick & Morty (r) 0.54 892 0.37 477

10:00 Family Guy (r) 0.73 1156 0.52 666
10:30 Family Guy (r) 0.88 1424 0.66 845

>>92439837
And comedy reruns didn't do great either


3:30a Bob’s Burgers (r) 432 0.21 271
4:00a Rick & Morty (r) 453 0.22 279
4:30a Rick & Morty (r) 448 0.22 279

5:00a King of the Hill (r) 489 0.24 296
5:30a King of the Hill (r) 469 0.22 280

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Best

>tfw one night or false hope for Toonamifags before Jack leaves and ratings plummet

Will make the tears sweeter

So I take it the moral of this story is that if you're tasked with making a second season of a highly popular anime like Titan, you don't end up with a 12-episode series four years after the original?

Wonder how OPM season 2 will fare.

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Weekly reminder that One Piece is the selling manga WORLDWIDE!

>>92440879
Reminder that it was canceld in the us twice

>>92440735
OPM is a whole different thing. Comedy style series can survive longer waits. AoT is 100% serious business, and people weren't gonna avoid the manga for 4 years waiting for this to be animated.

>>92440644
ratings will probably improve since family guy will do better than jack

>>92440879
MacDonalds is the best selling burger world wide

>>92439801
>yfw May 27th has better than usual Toonami ratings for every other show after Kai's timeslot

In other news, Black Lagoon is finally off hiatus.

When are we getting Stardust Crusaders? I enjoyed part 1 and 2(they are ridiculously underrated especially Battle Tendency).

>>92441528
Yea right. Last time this happened we got one chapter and back to hiatus.

>>92441540
Nobody knows. Memers will insist it's replacing AoT but there is zero proof of this. We might hear something at Momocon

>>92441478
It's going to be glorious, can't wait to see the animefag butthurt when western reruns outdo everything in their lineup

>>92441190
>only watchable show on the block removed
>implying that will raise anything

> shockingly this week improved quite a bit

Why is this a shock? Toonami has always had higher ratings in the summer.

>>92441711
family guy will do better than Jack, which will mean more viewers to stay because they're already on the channel

it's been the best way for better ratings overall, which is why we need to lost 11:30 too

>>92442039
A month from now when the ratings are back to shit, you'll be saying that Toonami has always had lower ratings in the summer.

>>92442039
Epic meme that has never been true

>>92442121
300k+ people leave after Jack ends. Why would the Family Man audience be more likely to stay?

Okay, guys

Let's say that you're Jason DeMarco

Adult Swim has given you enough money to make another 10-episode animated series, with the goal of something that will reach Jack's ratings

What do you make?

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>>92439801
Cant wait for Jojo to come back and start carrying this block once again!

>>92441540
most likely after AoT ends

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>>92443182
Why even ask?

>>92443792
> something that will reach Jack's ratings

>>92442590
because they just do, check the old ratings, everything went downhill when jack started

>>92439801
>More people actually came back for Kai than Super
That's just sad.

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>>92443182
somehow adapt spirit circle, although 10 episodes probably aren't enough

>>92440879
MODS please ban this shill

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Toonami will keep on trucking

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>>92444681

>>92443182
Megas I guess? 10 episodes really is not enough for a series that isn't already well established. Even Jack is feeling rushed.

>>92439801
Ratings from Kai to HxH seem like they went up from last week

>>92443182
Kids Next Door or maybe Billy and Mandy as a revival.

Some artsy shit for an original.

Aside from killing Kurapika's family, are the Phantom Troupe really that bad? All the people they killed in this arc are either mafioso or contract killers.

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>>92445469
yes, yes they are

>>92445469
They seem like a reasonable bunch
>hey these kids we caught don't know anything
>what should we do with them? They know where our hideout and shit is
>no worries, they aren't who we were after, let them go

>>92439837
>Almost a 100k drop between Family Guy and Jack

Why?

>>92446652
I'm still surprised Family Guy rakes in ratings for AS. I haven't met a single fan of Adult Swim shows who's also a fan of FG.

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You can't spell Toonami without NAMI

Now post One Piece

>>92442495
>>92442561
If you can find data that refutes this you're welcome to post it.

Maybe ratings would improve if we didn't have an 11:30 rerun slot.

>>92448506
I don't think the DBS rerun is the cause of lower ratings. That would mean people were interested in Super, and only Super, which hasn't been the case for Toonami historically. The tentpole frontrunners like Attack on Titan or Bleach would have at least 50 percent of their viewers carry over to the next show.

So what was going on these last few weeks to put ratings in the shitter like that? College finals keeping the 20-somethings from staying up late?

>>92448974
Nobody cares about Attack on Titan anymore.

>>92440735
OPM is an entirely different animal. SnK is just a flash in the pan, even in Japan it's popularity was pretty brief. For a couple years its manga sales surged into the top 20 charts and then they just fell off hard in 2015. It was a fad that lived on hype. OPM though has a bone-deep appeal to westerners, it's genuinely fun and engaging. Yes there's a degree of hype to it and there will be some decay, but not the degree we saw with AoT. At least not in the west. OPM I think resonates in the west a lot more than in Japan, though it is fairly popular in both.

>>92449011
Everything was doing bad except Jack these last few weeks, both DBs were under a million since mid April I think. This is the first time they've climbed back above 1 mil in some time. Obviously there was some kind of trend happening with one of the block's major demographics causing viewership to lower as a whole, rather than just one show being the deciding factor. AoT boosted by like 200k this week.

>>92447311
Not how it works, you claimed summer increases ratings, so the ball is in your court to prove it

>>92445469
Yes, they are monsters. They literally kill anyone they want just because they feel like it, but fly into an autistic rage if anyone dares kill them back. Right now their up against the mob, but they've killed many innocent people as well.

>>92448974
The lineup sucks. Until we have numbers like this consistently, this week was just a fluke

>>92449440
If it was due to the lineup it wouldn't explain the sudden jump. There's obviously other factors at work here.

>>92449459
It gets jumps like this all the time. The question is if they are permanent, which they never are

>>92445469

The show claims that they perform philanthropy, but other than the help they provide their hometown in a later arc, I'm not sure of what other moments there are.

>>92448974

If I had to guess, with finals out of the way and college graduations, there's a subset of Toonami viewers that are now free to enjoy the shows.

OP, how are the Live+3 and +5 numbers?

>>92439801
So which show's gonna get prematurely canceled next?

I'm betting either one of the rerun shows (either Bob's or GiTS) or Gundam, even if that's pointless since we're almost finished its run.

Still Jack going down this Sat. will put a hamper on Toonamis overall ratings (as well as [AS]'s reruns before Toonami).

>>92449387
This is what I've gathered from skimming the wiki ratings pages:

> Summer 2013 had multiple weekends with 3 or more million view ratings, culminating in August with quint millions. After those it goes back to 1 or 2 mils.

> Summer 2014 was actually on average lower than rest of the year from front to back, including the AoT rerun ratings slump. Summer also had fewer million ratings, only getting 1-2 shows with a million as opposed to the rest of the year. March 8 and 22 had quint mils, April 5 had quads.

> Summer 2015 ended strongly with Akame ga Kill buttressing Kai, every weekend in August had 3+ shows with a million or more. DBZ marathon was one of the few summer weekends to get only 1 show with 1 million+ ratings. Ratings actually shored up after the block cut and we got more weekends with 2+ shows getting a million.

> Summer 2016 has a slump in July for some reason, June and May did better even though the lineup was the same. One-Punch Man obviously gave the block some juice after its premiere.

I loosely defined summer as May-August. I thought 2014 did better because of AoT, but I guess not. My claim still stands.

>>92450338
I obviously didn't include 2012 because Toonami restarted in the last weekend of May. Though it may be worth examining ASA's ratings to see if the summer bump happened there as well. Then again after Code Geass ASA really didn't have any high-profile shows so it may not have occurred in significant enough levels.

>>92440879
And yet nobody cared enough to actually watch it on TV

>>92450311
If any show gets cancelled next, it'll be Naruto. It now consistently gets lower ratings than One Piece (its final night numbers were 587,000; Naruto hasn't touched those numbers since it went to 2:30) and buzz for the franchise is pretty much dead in the US at this point.

Gundam only has two more weeks left, though, after that we'll see if the Gundam lead-in really was the reason for Naruto's shitty numbers. If not, CN will likely can it when it comes time to renew their contract, like they did with OP.

>>92450742

Well, no one cared enough to watch it on TV while it was six years behind.

>>92439801
Do we blame Mother's Day?

Why does Gundam bring in such shitty numbers now? It was getting high numbers early in it's run, and we just had one of the best battles.

>>92450808
Naruto DVD/BD + Streaming numbers dictate whether or not it gets cancelled, not it's ratings.

OP got cancelled because Toonami wasn't boosting OP manga or anime sales enough.

>>92450742
>one of the ten highest rated TV shows in Japan for more than a decade
>one of the most dubbed and rebroadcast cartoons in the world

>b-b-but no one watches it on TV you guys!

In the grand scheme of the franchise's success, OP getting pulled off a 2:30 AM timeslot on a single country's basic cable is like stealing five dollars from Bill Gates or taking a gallon of water from the ocean.

>>92450967
DeMarco specifically said it was ratings, but okay.

Besides, OP has had strong manga and DVD sales for a long time. That's probably why Toonami kept it around for so long, because the show has been so successful in other media.

The real problem was simply that people who like One Piece don't want to watch episodes from all the way back in 2009. We've seen this shit already.

>>92450967
>Naruto DVD/BD + Streaming numbers dictate whether or not it gets cancelled, not it's ratings.
Well that's just blatantly false. It's all about ratings. That's why OP got canned, it's why movie nights don't happen anymore. Toonami is a TV block, it doesn't have any stake in the publishing or video distribution market, their decisions are based solely on what makes most sense as a programming block that sells ad space and needs viewership.

>OP got cancelled because Toonami wasn't boosting OP manga or anime sales enough.
This is just nonsensical. In the first place why would Toonami give a fuck about manga sales that they have absolutely no stake in? And why would the publishers cancel a contract on that basis when they actually make money off of it regardless of how well it boosts sales? It makes no sense. And finally, it doesn't even make sense if you're talking about the American distribution because the One Piece manga and anime are distributed by different companies (Viz and Funimation respectively) and thus have their own interests to consider first. Viz has absolutely no power to tell Toonami to stop airing OP's anime cause it's not helping their manga sales, and Funimation has no reason to give a shit about how it's helping Viz's manga sales at all because they only care about getting paid for the rights to the show. And lastly, if Funimation considered One Piece a net-loss they wouldn't still be dubbing it even after Toonami didn't renew it.

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>>92443182
It is time.

>>92443182
Korgoth of Barbaria.

>>92450712
There's no reason to compare ASA, Bleach was the high point of the night at around 450k.

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Hey guys,remember when Mr.Tsukishima was on DBZ? I miss those days.

>>92450871
Those early high numbers were before people realized 90% of it is talking about things most viewers won't understand.

>>92451818
I had forgotten all about this meme. Good times

>>92450871
It got moved back a bit plus people quickly realized that it was going to be one of those unmercifully dull political gundam series rather than the fun kind everybody remembers from the late 90s and early 00s.

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Make Toonami Robutts Again
https://youtu.be/IQYEStNGesc?t=3

>>92450311
GitS costs them literally zero dollars to air, and with how it holds Naruto I doubt it's going anywhere. If IBOS2 is confirmed, we know Demarco signed us up for mandatory Gundam, meaning they can't pull that either. Not that they would this close to the end anyway. If any go, it will likely be Naruto. Right now it's ratings are being gutted by Unicorn, but they will still probably want to get out of it eventually anyway since it's got about 6-8 years worth of episode to air still, which is long past Toonami's expected lifespan

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So was anyone else disappointed with this? I wasn't one of those retards who thought he would be the final boss Jack has an epic battle with, but for being likely the strongest non Aku character he fought in the series, this was a pretty shitty way to address him. This is probably the first time I have felt Ashi was cutting into the story too much.

>>92452145

Either killing Aku opens up a new portal to the past or Jack dies.

>>92452182
Or Ashi uses her Aku powers to open a portal and sends Jack back.

>>92452232
It's probably going to be this. All the portals may be destroyed but Aku has always been able to make them at his will

>>92452064
That's also setting aside both Dragonballs which they're going to run into the dirt. Though I think the real crisis will be rather than Jack ending when they finally run out of DBZ Kai episodes. Cause no matter what they do they're going to be looking at a massive viewership tank.

>>92452064
I could see Shippuden getting pulled after the Pain arc wraps up like how One Piece ended after Thriller Bark.

People keep talking about what shows could be dropped yet nobody seems to have any realistic ideas about what to replace them with. Everybody just posts about their fantasy pickups that have no basis in reality. What could conceivably replace Naruto on the block that would justify removing a series that's been there for years and pulled (until recently) acceptable numbers?

>>92453082
They need to be looking for another anchor like Bleach was right now for when Kai ends. That would be Super if they didn't let Toei dick their ass with 8pm

>>92453688
Look back through all the shows from the past 5 years. Now pick out all the ones with dubs. Lastly, pick out all the ones from there that have at least some semblance of action. At or above the level of Unicorn or Michiko and Hatchin. That list are all the shows that could replace Naruto.

>>92453688
Naruto is going to outlive Toonami. That isn't even a Toonami is dead meme, it purely has enough episode to outlive Toonami. That's justification enough to pull it in favor of pretty much any action oriented 12-26 episode series

>>92452145
Same here. I don't know what I was expecting, and I'm still holding out hope that he'll show up somehow, but it's a little off-putting after all cameos we got in episode 6.

>>92453780
Long running shows like Naruto are a boon to blocks like Toonami as long as they pull acceptable ratings, which Naruto did for most of its tenure on the block. It's only since dropping One Piece and being shifted back that it's really suffered. So my thinking is, they won't axe Naruto right away, they will try to see if it can recover in its new slot, because it's performed so reliably for so many years that cutting it due to a few bad weeks might be hasty considering what a major property it is. Only after they're convinced it's beyond recovery will they axe it and try to salvage that slot with something else.

>>92453836
Obviously they will ride out the current arc since it's seen by quite a few as one of the "best". Toonami needs some long runners, they stop being a boon when they take up most of the schedule. If they want to bring Jojo back at someone point, they are gonna have to ship out one of the four long shows currently on.

>>92453946
Swapping Naruto for Stardust Crusaders might make sense. Then maybe they can consider bringing Naruto back after that and see how it does then. Might be people are just fatigued and want a break. Or they could go for something different after SDC if another show seems like a good replacement. I don't think there's much of worth in Naruto after the Pain arc so not sure it would be worth bringing back really.

>>92452145
Nothing ever indicated that the Guardian was immortal. He probably got old and slow and Aku took advantage of the situation to finish him off.

>>92454495
You would think being tasked with guarding a time portal for an undetermined amount of time would lead to some kind of extended lifespan or something. But maybe not, oh well. I'm more worried about how everything else is gonna get resolved in one episode.
>Aku
>Ashi
>Where Jack and Ashi go from here
>Scotsman's plan
>whether or not all those cameos had a point or were just nostalgiabait
>epilogue
Seems like quite a bit for 22 minutes

>>92454580
The point of the cameos was so Ashi could fully understand the impact Jack had made on the world, and could then relay this to Jack so he'd get his groove back and not kill himself.

Maybe the cameo folk will show up at the end as part of Scotsman's army but if not, they have served their purpose.

I can see them resolving all this stuff but it might require the show to move at a faster pace than it normally does, which could make it feel weird. We'll see, though.

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>>92454580
>Aku announces everywhere that he'll be hosting a public execution of Samurai Jack to utterly destroy all hope his existence had created
>Plans to have Ashi do it because why not?
>The Scottsman and all of Jack's allies unite in a last ditch assault to free him
>Aku tells Jack he's gonna kill all of them and make him watch, THEN he'll kill him
>This makes Jack mad as hell
>Seeing Jack and his friends suffer awakens Ashi for a moment
>She frees Jack and he uses the element of surprise while Aku's busy fighting his friends to snatch the sword back and hack away a part of Aku
>Aku yells in agony and is pissed as fuck, turns around to face Jack who's jumping midair to deliver the final blow
>Aku uses Ashi as a human shield to block the sword
>[Aku_laughing.mp4]
>The sword piercing Ashi caused her to regain full control of herself, but also mortally wounded her
>In her time as a part of Aku, she learned all about his dark magic
>With her final breath she tears open a portal in time and flings Jack back to the past where the only thing that is raw is Aku's asshole, going full pottery
>Jack fucking murderates the shit out of past!Aku
>Roll credits
>After credit scene of Jack crying and praying at a Japanese funeral altar made for his friends and loved ones from a future that never will be, with drawings of them made by his hand in guise of photos
>His parents enter the room and lay their hands on his shoulders as support
>Jack smiles through the tears and says his final words
>Thank you.

DeMarco has roughly 18 hours to announce plans to air Psycho Mob 100 or Stardust Crusaders before I start watching fansubs and at this point that's the only thing I can think of that might get me back in to Toonami

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>Tfw I want Garo on Toonami but knowing my luck IF it happens I'm gonna get Monkey Paw'd hard and they'll air Guren no Tsuki instead of Honoo no Kokuin

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hey, the thread ain't dead yet, neat

>>92457382
It will be soon though.
Just like toonami

>>92455591
You could just watch the fansubs, then the Toonami run. Or just buy the Funi dub for Mob.

How much longer does Tokyo Ghoul have?

toonami is ok

>>92458759
Like 5 months, it only started a month ago

>>92452145
"You ain't the one"

Jack wasn't the one to beat him, it was Aku
It was just a matter of when and how, but we didn't get those answers, which is fine though but the ambiguity and implications make it more sad

How long do you give Toonami?

>>92460369
If they go with IBOS2, I'd say we get another cut by the end of 2017. If they are serious about an 11 Jack rerun, then expect it by the end of summer

>>92449011
Well advertising it only a week before it aired possibly didn't help. Not enough hype was built.

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Last for surprise best.