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Flash #22 spoilers

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https://www.bleedingcool.com/2017/05/15/three-final-pages-flash-22-change-everything-major-spoilers/
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>>92408718
http://archive.is/5YZij

No hits for Rich the Leech.
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>>92408729
>>92408757
>>92408791

Hyped
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>>92408718
>>92408729
>>92408757
>>92408791
FUCK DC and FUCK the retards who thought this fucking shit was a good idea
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>>92408791
WHAT DOES IT MEAN?
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>>92408831
t. alan moore
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>>92408835
D. Manhattan and Superman are two sides of the same coin

it's pottery.
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>>92408791
>poisons that open your eyes
red pill?
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>>92408912
no wonder these retards can't make anything good to save their worthless ducking lives

the sooner they go bankrupt the better
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>I used to read about you... in my world...
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>>92408912
Are you sure?
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>>92408958
Great job phoneposter
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>>92408958
>nick spencer S E E T H I N G
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Rorschach sucks.
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>>92408786
At this point I think Rich actually is the OP
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>>92408729
>>92408757
>>92408791
Aww shit yeah
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>>92408791
Oh for fucksake.
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>>92408729
>>92408791
>>92408757
Why exactly is Manhattan even with the button lol
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>>92408757
>>92408791
Why have the alternating black panels? Transitioning from the yellow/red colors on the button to Supes' shield would've been more effective.
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>>92408729
>>92408757
>>92408791
Bruh you have no idea how hyped I am
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>>92408912
But the other side of the coin is Captain Atom, not Superman.
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>>92409195
you really think DC is smart enough to know that?
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>>92408987
Captain Atom of the Pax Americana earth was that earth's Superman equivalent.
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P R I M E T I M E
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>>92409195
No. The entire conceit is Superman is how wonderful and cool superheroes are and how they actually work in the fictional framework laid out by the Big 2. The entire conceit of Manhattan (and Watchmen and Moore) is the opposite that superheroes don't work at all and someone like Superman would become like Manhattan or Ozy.
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>>92409195
Doomsday clock isn't about comparing the Watchmen characters to the original Charlton characters. It's about Watchmen's cynicism vs Superman's idealism.
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I'm still mad that they brought back Professor Zoom only to kill him off 3 pages later.
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>>92409195
The Charlton characters better at least make an appearance in this shit. The only good thing that might come out of this is a Question/Rorschach team up.
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>>92409403
Yeah, shame he's totally not in the Flash series this summer.
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>>92409403
lolwhy
he suckz
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>>92408831
fuck you! it's a great idea and if Marvel can't get their damn act together they should just make movies.
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I support this just to rile up that snake-worshipping ass Moore
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I don't see anything really important here.
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>>92409563
>it's a great idea
Source?
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>>92409403
the next arc of flash is about him
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>>92408831
Why get angry? It's just sad. DC never learns.
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>>92408831
Hopefully this breaches their contract with Moore, which states they can't do a sequel without his permission, and he sues the fuck out of them. That's the only silver lining of this.
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>Moorefags seething in every thread

Thank you based Johns
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>>92409790
It's not really a sequel. It's a spin off with one character. If the other characters show up though Moore and a good lawyer could definitely argue in court that it's a sequel though.
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>>92409790
It doesn't they wouldn't do it if it did.
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>>92409563
>it's a great idea
its shit. it's a corporation gimmick, johns is a slut.
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>>92409790
>being this delusional
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So is this the only appearance of doctor m in flash #22 or do we get to see his dong.
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>>92409790
There's no way they could be that fucking dumb. They've probably gone over the contract a hundreds times to make sure there's not a chance of that happening.
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>>92410015
>There's no way they could be that fucking dumb
it's DC of course they could
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>>92410015
Specially since this event was mandated by WB, this is nothing more than a clickbait event by WB's favorite bitch.
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>>92408729
How did Superboy Prime's hand turn blue?

I think this is the final nail for that theory
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>>92410268
Superboy prime being behind everything was a stupid theory anyways
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>>92410015
This is the same people who had to change their logo because of a shoe company. But knowing the details of a publishing contract related to their biggest bookstore seller is probably not something they'd fuck up.

>>92410268
He read Watchmen and found a way to get the powers
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>>92408960

Well remembered, anon
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>>92408718
I promised myself years ago I'd never go back to comics again aside from Dredd, but this is going to kill me. What do I do!
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>>92412863
>>>/asp/ with you
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Is Jay Garrick showing up here or not?
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WHO CARES ABOUT BIG BAD BLUE DICK? WHERES MY PRIME BOY?
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>>92413732
Yes
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>>92413732
I want to know this too.
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>>92413732
no he was showing up in the earlier version but then everything had to be rewritten when King smartened up and dropped out of this piece of shit
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>>92413732
>>92414131
>>92414488
https://archive.fo/5YZij#selection-945.0-965.136
>Flash #22 by Josh Williamson and Neil Googe, from a plot by Geoff Johns sees Batman and The Flash running through the reality stream encountering Reverse Flash and, yes, Jay Garrick, as the cover attests to.
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>>92408791
I'd probably be more excited if I hadn't already seen the Doomsday Clock announcement
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>>92408831
sacred cow barbecues are fun
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>>92408729
>>92408757
>>92408791
BASED REBIRTH
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I'm hyped
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>>92408729
>>92408757
>>92408791
>>92408960
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>>92408791
So does the Red, Yellow and Blue of Supes represent the Blood, Button and Manhattan?
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>>92415938
>morrison
>liking this shit
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>>92417125
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>>92408791
Isnt that golden ages supermans logo?
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>>92417203
Morrison absolutely would love it. His dumb son Johns attempting meta shit is pure kino.
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>>92417297
NO.
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>>92408791
Superman prime?
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I can't believe anyone is hyped about this.
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>yfw Superman Thought Robot vs Manhattan
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>>92417297
>cleanly drawn slab serif touching the upper outline
>golden age

casuals should not be on /co/
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>>92417254
>The Speed Force is red and Yellow
>The Flash was given a Blue ring powered by Hope.
>The red and yellow Crest of the House of El is hope, with blue representing possibility.
>These spoilers

Its too much. This is too meta for me. I'm scared.
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>>92417316
Why big no?
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>>92409878
just came in to say that pax americana is gr8
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>>92417458
Because only a philistine would think that was golden age.
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>>92417311
Just like he is happy that Johns cockblocked his captain marvel or that Johns took the batman writer job for the movie??

Morrison created an organic story with pax americana, he hates corporate mandated gimmicks, and this shitty story is just that.
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>>92417456
>what about manhattan? he's blue too
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this shit is gonna be a reenactment of the time doomsday first appeared but superman will be removed from the board

you heard it here first
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>>92417605
Yeah he doesn't mind. He would definitely be proud of Geoff.
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>>92419163
Johns said doomdsay isn't in it.
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>>92417456
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>>92408960
It has been long established that fiction in the DCU, especially comic books, are messages in a bottle from other worlds.
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>>92419570
But not in the Watchmen universe... until now.

In fact, superhero comics failed in the Watchmen universe and the pirate genre thrived.
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Too bad that shit like Injustice and DCEU doesnt do Superman any favors.
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>>92419923
There's a pirate universe too though
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>>92420074
I personally like to think the DCEU is the Superdoom Earth run by the sentient corporation, Time Warner.
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>>92420074
what do you mean
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>>92409335
That's the absolute most facile, surface level interpretation of watchmen and it is honestly depressing that DC is riding their big new event on it
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so whats so hype about this?
is it just because it shows that the DC universe and watchmen are somehow connected?
or is there more to it? like are they going to get to the point where the characters in the comics become self aware and start to figure out that they are just characters in a comic book?

sorry. i dont really read DC comics or anything. Im just a curious lurker just passing by.
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why is the button being used here

why would manhattan give a single iota of a shit about the comedian's button

the only plausible reason for the focus on it is that it's the cover of watchmen and literal retards will associate it with watchmen

the button has no significance other than being something the comedian wore when he died
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>>92420330
WB pretty much trying to shove down our throars that the S means hope. But how can it when they are doing the exact opposite? DCEU Superman is basically broken, Injustice Superman is a monster. How many evil Superman stories has there been recetly? No Superman video games aside from the Injustice series. No animated series to show kids how great he can be. Subpar writers in the comics...
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>>92417605
Morrison came to John's defense when Moore was attacking him.
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>>92420787
Some anti-Johnsfags really try to push the idea that they aren't friends for some reason even though we know they love each other. It's weird.
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>>92409408
I'm sure they'll get along famously!
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>>92420742
>WB pretty much trying to shove down our throars that the S means hope
They cant shove an idea thats already in place

Superman IS the savior of the DC universe. Hell, the entire reason we even have Injustice and dceu is because of that idea alone.
>what if superman, the epitome of good guy, becomes a dictator
>what if superman gets put in a "realistic" universe
You can argue that batman is more popular all you want(and i'll agree with you) but when "superhero" is mentioned, most people would think of superman
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>>92420954
this guy gets it.
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Alright /co/, which Watchmen universe character will appear at the end and be part of the dc universe until their series gets cancelled after 12 issues?

Gonna say Laurie and Dan's kid who's now a metahuman
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>>92420954
Only thing I can remember prior to MOS is Birthright and thats it. And its cringey when they do the exact opposite thing. Makes them look like hypocrites if you ask me.
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>>92420886
>Worlds Finest pose

No they actually hate each other
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>>92409195
And maybe Firestorm too. Wasn't there also like a fuck-ton of other "Nuclear Men/Women" in the New 52?
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>>92408729
>>92408757
>people thought Manhattan wouldn't be the villain
>people thought Mr. Oz wasn't Ozymandias (why? seriously, it's literally spelled out and this is Geoff Johns we're talking about)

I don't understand why this is a big shocker to any of the above.
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>>92420538
That's it really. Johns couldn't think of anything else.
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>>92421016
Comedian might be a fun fit for Suicide Squad: A Rick Flag and a Joker all in one, convenient mustached package
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>>92420954
Is he now?? He sure hasnt been for the last couple of years.
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>>92420787
8 years ago
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>>92421322
Didn't they have Peacemaker in there for a while? Poor DC, they tried so hard to get mileage out of the Charlton characters, but all anybody wanted was Moore's Watchmen. Still would be interested in seeing a proper, modern take on Peter Cannon, Thunderbolt
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>>92421834
They took that world's finest picture together like two years ago.
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>>92421863
And?
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>>92421883
It's recent proof that they're still friendly.
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>>92421902
You know grown ups don't need to shit on others all the time right?

The bad blood can be only professional. And morrison is the kind of person that can separate both.
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>>92421957
What proof do you have that they're not still friends then? Beyond the fanfiction you made up because you can't handle the cognitive dissonance of a creator you like being friends with one you hate.
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>>92417456
>I'm scared.
Don't be. The Hypercrisis is ultimately your friend.
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>>92422088
Stop being butthurt over a simple fact: Morrison wouldnt think this comic story is good.
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>>92422164
>>92422088
Regardless of whatever his stance on the comic is (and even if he does hate it, you won't ever know until his 5th dimensional hyper form writes a manuscript in 100 years about the death of comics) it's fucking cringey as fuck to describe one writer as Morrison's "dumb son" when they're only connection is the fact that they both work at DC and posed together for a picture once.
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>>92422260
>not listening to the 52 podcasts when they were still up on the DC site

those guys came out the other side as family
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>>92422260
It is. Their styles are extremely different, different influences, different styles. Son is such a stupid way to say anything. Johns is a poor's man Waid.

>>92422327
12 fucking years ago when they were all working in the same comic
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>>92417456

There is only infinite in the Hypercrisis and Morrison is it's prophet.
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>>92408729
>>92408757
>>92408791
I don't get it, how does this change anything other than confirm what we already knew and throw in a random superman symbol at the end?
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>>92422368
12 years ago and they've seen shown to still like each other since then, you're being silly here just because you don't like Johns. They're friends, and likely close friends. You have to deal with it.
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>>92422524
It doesn't. People are just hype.
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>>92422368
>Johns is a poor's man Waid.

Why? Because they both worked on the Flash? At least Johns actually gives a shit about the Flash whereas Waid just wanted to throw away shit which was there and in turn replace it with unnecessary shit.
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>>92422645
>Why?
Style. Old Waid was clearly better, but it's either Waid or Loeb, but Loeb isnt into gore
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>>92408791
>>92408786
>>92408757
>>92408729
What doe it mean?
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>>92421851
DC lost the rights to him a long time ago. I think there was an edgy Dynamite reboot a few years ago.
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>>92408718

>The character we all knew was going to be the main villain is the main villain.

Hooray?

I mean, it's not like this is a shocker.
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>>92408718
>>92408729
>>92408757
>>92408791
Why are we doing this?
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>>92422994
Because Johns is a braindead Watchmen fanboy.
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>>92422707

What good stuff has Waid actually written? Kingdom Come is good because of Ross's art and that he co-plotted with Waid on A LOT of ideas (see the sequels to Kingdom Come which are trash that Waid worked on WITHOUT Ross). Birthright is okay, but not great and really unnecessary. His Flash run is only jerked off by Wallyfags to talk about how Wally is the BEST FLASH EVER and WHY ISN'T Wally in more books?!

His Daredevil was complete shit. His current Marvel output is complete shit.
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>>92423023
This seems more like Didio's brain child, actually.
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>>92423049
It's WB's
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>>92423033
Still more good stuff than Johns has ever written.
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>>92409790
It depends how "sequel" is defined in the contract. They were able to do Before Watchmen because "prequel" wasn't mentioned in the contract so who knows what else they could do. How great would it be if Johns overstepped his bounds and ended up losing WB/DC the Watchmen rights?
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>>92422524
It's just a teaser for The Doomsday Clock story.
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>>92423069

Aquaman is good. Forever Evil was fun.
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Has /co/'s own hero shown with the issue?
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>>92423033
his Daredevil was good until the Ikari stuff ended

his Hulk run was total ass though
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>>92424030
he basically only leaks Marvel
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>>92423069
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>>92423033
Irredeemable and Incorruptible are pretty good, and Thrillbent is a kind of cute site.
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>>92423033
No see if you actually read comics you'd know that Mark Waid wrote the definitive Flash run.
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>>92422707
Loeb's peaks are better than anything Johns ever did
For All Seasons, Long Halloween, Emperor Joker, Blue and Yellow > Rogue wank, Hal wank, underutilized colors, oh my Aquaman is so so serious and badass guyz and worst JL
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>>92424015
Aquaman was dumb, Forever Evil was edgy
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>>92424015
Those are both pretty mediocre honestly. Never got the hype for either.
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>>92420538
Rich implied Manhattan left the button explicitly to trap Batman via leaving a clue so he could lure him into a trap and imprison him.

Presumably because Manhattan wanted to remove Superdad's BFF upon his return, to corrupt him further into becoming more like Superbro
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>>92408791
Can it be Prime Time now...?
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>>92426439
I don't know why people expect him to show up, it would shoot Geoff in his foot if he used a twisted Superman DC themselves warped into a petulant child for the sheer sake of mockery and hamfisted commentary of comic readers who criticized the dour state of the DCU at the time.

No, no. See, when we're talking to the writers we're Superboy Prime.
When the writers are talking down to us they're Superman.
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>>92425530
Corrupt him like Superbro? What does that mean? You're acting like Superbro was some fake imposter who killed people all the time and didn't put people before himself.
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Ok, I like the epilogue and everything else but...
A single pic of Jay Garrick??? I don't want to believe I've waited months for nothing. Fucking covers
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>>92409096
It's the Watchmen button, it's there to show you that the Watchmen are Watching.
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>>92408729
>>92408757
>>92408791
Hasn't DC done this already like 2 years ago?
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>>92429058
They did prequels to Watchmen
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>>92419308
No
This is...
no
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Did somebody get their hands on an early copy of flash #22? Can they story time it?
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>>92422260
This. Morrison's "dumb son" is Gerard Way.
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>>92422770
It means Marvel is Finished.
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>>92409066
>at this point
Seriously? It took you 10 years to figure this out?
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>>92410015
>There's no way they could be that fucking dumb
This is the same company that lost the use of their logo because they sued another company for having a logo similar to theirs without realising that they had never trademarked it.
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Got my hands on the issue a bit early, anyone interested?
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>>92408729
>>92408757
>>92408791
I can't tell what I'm more disgusted by, these pages or all these responses of people being genuinely excited by this.
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>>92430242
the saddest thing is there are people stupid enough to believe it
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>>92430297
Yeap. Leak away!
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>>92430455
Here we go.
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>>92430496
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>>92430517
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>>92409408
Where are they all right now?
Teds over in BB being quite alive, Nate's mini should be finished by then, Question, Peacemaker etc. are nowhere to be found
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>>92430534
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What do we christen anon now that ScanBro is taken? CameraBro? He's definitely not scanning
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>>92430517
Neck breaking is back in. Hypertime exist even detached.
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>>92430596
It's low tier effort from me, I agree.
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>>92430629
Jayyyyyy
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>>92430657
Jayyyy is back and young.
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>>92430657
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>>92430657

Goddamn. So awesome.
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>>92430673
HAHA fuck you Jay
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>>92430517
>IT WAS ME BARRY!
>I WAS YOUR FATHER!
This is literally on the same level of retardation as that SIlver Age Lex Luthor story where he ponders about going to the past to be Superman's father and I love it
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>>92430760
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>>92430760
I kinda get the feeling the watchman universe is destroyed.
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>>92430760
Oh SHIT

ITS HAPPENING

Bruce is gonna propose to Selina
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damn, I thought this was gonna feature Tim? TIMFAGS BTFO
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>>92430782
That's it. Make sure you pick one up tomorrow, the lenticular cover is stunning.
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>>92430517
>Literally Luthor's plan from that one page
The madmen that write these stuff
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>>92430788
well DC is doing a pretty good job of it
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>>92430673
>Kimi no Na Wa's first finale
Fuck you Williamson
FUCK YOU
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>>92430720
>or I wasn't the lightning rod he needed
JOAN
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>>92408831
It's an interesting way of giving an in-universe context to the editorially mandated edgefest and weird character decisions that was Early New 52.
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same colours, is this important?
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>>92430861
Lighting rod is the jsa.
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>>92430875
no
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>>92430697
>>92430720
Welp, cya in a couple months Jay, was nice of you to stop by
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>>92430496
Wait, the button more than just a button? Why is this sort of hackery allowed?
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>>92430875
Yeah, Red and Yellow have been pretty big motif colors.

>>92430885
True, but I'm just hoping that Jay and Joan get a moment.
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>>92408791
>There are poisons that bind you, and poisons that open your eyes.
>August Strindberg
What did they mean by this?
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>>92430806
It was going to till the rewrite
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>>92430760
I actually like this
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>>92430902
yeah but the blue surrounding it as well
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>>92430909
it means nothing DC is just being retarded and trying to sound deep like always

the sooner they die the better
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>>92430517
>make you my son
lex luthor level of madman!!
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>>92430875
Loop. They're both symbols of their resective universes. They're both the hope and darkness of Dc.

Implying Dr.M created the Dc universe out of hope he never had from the comics. To escape the bleakness of reality. While the hope of Dc universe escapes into his and ours and is inspiration.

To become better than what we was. A Superman to inspire humanity.
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>>92430909
>Johan August Strindberg was a Swedish writer, playwright, and painter
Let's summon /lit/ and ask
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>>92430949
that's stupid and makes no sense

obviously you must work for DC
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>>92430875
yes
condiment king is behind it all
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>>92430976
It males sense you pleb. They're both decontructing each others.
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>>92431034
Don't feed the troll
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So Manhattan is out there and likely the big bad in all of this. It's good to finally get confirmation.

I'm really wondering what happened to the Watchmen universe if Manhattan has become this disillusioned. If he's really intertwined with Superman, then it's highly likely the journal got published after the end of Watchmen and the USA/USSR went to nuclear war with each other.

Maybe Manhattan is trying to create a universe that is far less cynical. Where the hero's of the world are an actual positive influence?
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>>92409790
I hope he tries and gets #btfo. At this point Moore is basically Ken Penders.
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>>92431800
that and ouTHEIR great movies
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>>92430949
Superman's symbol means something in the actual DC universe.

The button... doesn't. To Manhattan it's just a fucking button.
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>>92432094
Maybe it's not Doctor Dong that's doing the buttons?
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>>92431238
Then what is Mr. Oz's endgame? He kidnapped Tim,Mxy(who escaped) and probably other people.
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>>92430430
Just like the people dumb enough to believe DC is finished when their movies keep making money, and their comics shit all over Marvlel.
>>92424322
>FE was edgy
So was Watchmen.
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>>92430672

His hair is grey and he knows Barry. This JSA spent time in the modern era. They're not getting fully rebooted.
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>>92432330
Nah. It will be overwritten partly. To fit in. The group is known to be covert in the past.

It's the same as wally pasts getting folden on to fit in but not everything.
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>>92432094
Thats the point. Its all reverse.
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>>92430940
So are there actual Marveldrone shills or is this /v/ tier post what passes for trolling now?
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>>92408718
>Moorefags triggered
>Marveltards triggered
Based Johns. This is going to bury Lelgacy.
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>>92432423
...Reverse how? Why would Manhattan use the button?

"Hmm, in Superman's world his symbol means something to both him and the universe as a whole, I shall plant a symbol that means literally nothing to me in the batcave..."
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>>92432505
The point is the button is meaningless (sans the radioactive elements) while the Superman logo isn't.

It's not good vs bad, it's a symbol hope vs a symbol of deconstruction tomthe readers. Meta as well.
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>>92432568
Yes. I get that.

The question is.. Why is Manhattan using the button as his symbol?
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>>92432606
Because it's his universe symbol story wise. In the universe sense not the public knowing sense.

Also pretty much confrims rosarch is still dead. And the Comedian.
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When you sit down and think about it...nothing really happened in the end.
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JOHNS IS A FUCKING HACK

I KNEW THIS SHIT WOULD HAPPEN AND CALLED IT IN THE LAST 2 DOOMSDAY THREADS AND ALL YOU JOHNSFAGS WERE SAYING "NOOOO LE CEREAL KING IS A GOOD WRITER"

yes i mad. i'm mad as hell
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>>92432775
classic johns the madman
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>>92417254
God, I was there for that thread.
It was glorious. Someone figured out that when the Superman symbols were placed back to back, and every other one was flipped upside-down, it created a helix, like in DNA
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>>92420113
By Multiversity logic...probably.
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>>92434311
No, it's real not theoretical: http://www.dccomics.com/characters/earth-31
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>>92434311
>>92434490
Also Earth-40
>We'll be Pirates! From a Pirate Universe!
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>>92432568
Is not. Meta, Johns isn't that smart, the button means wb asked Johns to use it a lot as a commercial gimmick.
>>
>>92430949
>>92432094
>>92432423
>>92432505
>>92432568
>>92432606
>>92432769
It could also mean that the Button is a Doomsday Clock (duh) because it really is. It's a symbol of despair. While Superman's is a symbol of hope.
>>
>>92432410

Like I said, not fully rebooted. Something from the 90s on will remain though. We're not going straight back to them popping out of the 40's. Plus I really don't think Rebirth is done with Wally yet. Or any of the Flashes. They're still uncovering the truths of themselves.
>>
>>92434858
Oh, if you're so smart, then where's your comic, huh?
>>
>>92408729
>>92408757
Umm, what?
>>
>>92423069
JSA alone proves your wrong.
>>
>>92434858
Dude, Johns was always fucking meta. He's not even subtle at it. Infinite Crisis is meta as shit, Rebirth is meta as shit. He's just not subtle at it unlike Morrison. Everything is a heavy handed "in your face" comment of the comics in the real world.
>>
>>92423033
But Wallyt is jerked off precisely because Waid's run is the best Flash run ever.
>>
Wow, it's fucking nothing. I can't believe people will eat this shit up and praise it like it's the second coming of Jesus.
>>
>>92435047
There's only deboots. Still won't exactly become pre flashpoint. Most things are staying deleted.


Johnnys dialouge suggests he wisied every member away from the 50s to somewhere.

Jay just remembers pre flashpoint as it fades away slowly.
>>
>>92435141
>Superboy Prime trolling the DC forums.jpg
>>
>>92432469
He's going to bury them by writing a shit book?
>>
How many times can RF die before he gets fed up with it?
>>
>>92435266
Can't be any shittier than the current Marvel output. Even some of the Marveldrones at CBR have turned on them.
>>
>>92430720
>I wonder was this all Thawne's doing?

Wally already told him he wasn't responsible for this. I guess he forgot.

>Maybe his death is what triggered all of this. Maybe there's no one else to chase.


What sense does that make? He just died, time was ruptured way before that. Williamson is a fucking hack, he can't even make sense of what he's writing.
>>
>>92435141
>Morrison
>subtle

He has a character holding a comic looking at the reader as he talks about 2d and 3d. Are you retarded?
>>
>>92435171
Precisely what I'm talking about. He doesn't even try to hide it.
>>
>>92435169

Why are you typing as if you are disagreeing with what I'm saying while saying what I'm saying?
>>
>>92435355
Compared to Johns and a lot of other writers? Yes.
>>
>>92435309
>Even some of the Marveldrones at CBR have turned on them.

Recently or are you talking about the stuff that happened last year?
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Will his suffering ever end?
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>>92430949
And he is probably the one who split Superman made him more aggressive and made him forget his love for Lois.
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What's with all these desperate Marvel interns on this thread? Kek
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What the fuck is even happening. Can someone make sense of it?
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>>92435798
I'm so sorry Anon.
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>>92435798
Godspeed Anon.
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>>92430760
>>92430782
>>92430811
These pages make a stunningly good argument for sticking to the 9-panel grid and minor variations thereof.
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>>92435928
>>92435984
Shit, I don't want to d-
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>>92431855
>At this point Moore is basically Ken Penders.
Imagine being this delusional.
>>
>>92409790
What are the chances this is Geoff playing 4D chess to get Moore the rights back? He is a big Moore fanboy after all. All he would need to do is include a few lines of dialogue about what happened post-Watchmen and this would count as a sequel and breach the contract.
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>>92430517

Nice to see hypertime being acknowledged again by someone besides Morrison.
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>>92436272
>chances
0%. Geoff is the biggest company cocksucker on the planet. He would never even think of doing that.
>Moore fanboy
No he's a DC fanboy. The only Moore shit he cares about is the stuff he did for them.
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>>92436272
>is Geoff playing 4D chess


I doubt Johns knows how to play real chess
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>>92436365
Gates showed it in Vibe but I don't think it was named.
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>>92435166
True Wallyfags know WML was the best run
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So how the hell is Zoom back in Flash if he's dead?
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>>92423033
> created everything about modern Flash
> "only Wallyfags care about it!!"

Anon even the Savitar story on TV show is an adaptation of several Waid stories what the fuck are you talking about?
>>
>mrw Doomsday Clock is narrated by Superboy-Prime

PRIME

TIME

PRIME

TIME
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>>92430760
So Manhattan showed him the flashpoint to make him doubt his purpose?
>>
>>92436457
How new to comics are you? Fucking hell...
>>
>>92436663
He literally just died a second time, man.
>>
>>92430811
Wait. Wasn't Bruce supposed to find out that Tim Drake was alive in this?
>>
>>92436676
Newsflash: speedsters time travel, you fucking mongoloid.
>>
>>92436765
He can't outrun death. Only Wally can.
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>>92436783
You're an idiot. This is him BEFORE he dies.

Use your fucking brain for once in your god damn life.
>>
>>92409878
You can read literally any panel in any order and it still makes the same narrative sense.
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>>92436373
>No he's a DC fanboy. The only Moore shit he cares about is the stuff he did for them.
Geoff did write some issues of Tom Strong when Moore broke up with DC a second time so he at least likes that as well.
>>
>>92436457
it's before he died. he asks flash how he beat him, and barry is trying to warn him he is gonna die
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>>92436867
Yes and it's a natural progression from watchmen. Meanwhile Johns big OMG is that manhattan is blue, blood is red and the pin is yellow just like suparman and 3x3
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>>92435266
Even if the book does turn out to be shit, it's guaranteed to outsell Legacy.
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>>92419923
>Black Freighter never got a live action mini series
Snyder, get on that shit.
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>>92438942
Anything watchmen is guaranteed to sell, but they really didnt need a watchmen bump anyway.
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>>92438342
That's not at all his big wow. I'm not defending Johns, (although he has done good work), but this is just a tease for the bigger story. There is no big wow here, only a teaser.
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>>92439175
Nah they did. DCYou put everything in the toilet, they needed something to get headlines, especially since a bunch of people were determined to hate it. They made a good choice in not focusing on it for a while and letting the writers do their thing. It let the books build up towards it and let the initial butthurt wear off. Now it's only Marvel strongholds like NeoFAG that still shitpost about it.
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>>92409878
What if it's PA Captain Atom behind all this?
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>>92436457
that version of him died. the one at the end of the button part 3 is him just before he sees God (doctor M). Theres another version of him that will be the villain for the next arc of flash
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>>92439321
>IT WAS ME BARRY! I WAS YOU ALL ALONG!
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