Dinosaurs

>>92398936
Blame Jurassic park.
And the fact that scales are cooler than feathers. Hotter too, if you're a scalie.

>>92398950
>And the fact that scales are cooler than feathers
Debatable

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>>92399011
this

>>92398936
Still waiting on a scientifically accurate lust penis comic.

>>92398936
Because scientist don't know how they really looked either.

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Anyone got a good comic with accurate (to our current knowledge) dinosaurs?

>>9239895>>92399011
>>92399103
>>92399114
>>92399126
>>92399139

we still don't really know how dinosaurs looked like
evidence heavily suggests some sort of feathers but covering them head to toe with them is just stupid

PLUS cretaceous era dinosaurs are the only ones who could have possibly had feathers

>>92399126
No, but we know feathers had to be there.

>All modern day dinosaurs (birds) have feathers.
>Feather-like structures have been found on fossils of common ancestors of dinosaurs and pterosaurs.
>Fossils of full feathers have been found on multiple distanly related theropods.

It's the reason we assume the common ancestor of monkeys and apes had tails since most other mammals have them, it wouldn't make sense if they didn't.

>>92398936
>Why do most comics still get Dinosaurs wrong?

Older portrayals of dinosaurs are the ones people are familiar with in pop culture.

For the longest time people thought the T-Rex stood up-right, and even after finding out this was not the case some forms of media still went with it.

No matter how many fossils we'll dig up, I don't think we'll ever get them right. These animals have been dead for a long time, and a lot of information about what they were like in life will remain up to guesswork. The sense of mystery is part of what fascinates me about them, though.

>>92398936
because it's a comicbook? and fantasy means it doesn't have to be 100% accurate.

>>92399224
Except for the nodosaur. They found a statue-like fossil instead of bones. So that'd like two out of 1000+ so far.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2017/05/12/rare-as-winning-the-lottery-new-dinosaur-fossil-so-well-preserved-it-looks-like-a-statue/?utm_term=.5565b1474232

>>92399462
>and a lot of information about what they were like in life will remain up to guesswork.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SuDqNLgVHv8

>>92398936
Feathers are gay

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>>92399556
There is a lot about dinosaurs' appearance and lifestyle that can't be known. It's fairly rare to find fossils that preserve the flesh of dinosaurs; what their skin looked like, and whether they had any sort of fleshy appendages or filaments. Some scientists have figured out how to find out the color of fossilized feathers, but most of the time the color of dinosaurs is something we have to simply guess. Brown earthy hues like crocodiles, or colourful patterns like birds? Also, we can't see from bones if dinosaurs had some kind of warning calls or songs, specific poses that they used for threatening their rivals, dances they did while attracting mates, hunting habits they were adapted to, and so on. And sometimes we make the wrong conclusions based on fossils, like for example the assumption that Oviraptors were egg thieves.

Look into "All Yesterdays" and "All Your Yesterdays". Those books can help you understand how limited knowledge we have, and how much we have to guess.

>>92399950
>There is a lot about dinosaurs' appearance and lifestyle that can't be known.
far less than you would think. New technology is opening up ways to study dinosaurs that no one even thought of before. Like you mentioned, the colour of dino feathers can be looked at now. And using CRISPR to study certain dinosaur traits has been something going on for a while now. The Chickensaurus is a well known avenue for studying dinosaur traits.

It's very hard to know what is 'impossible' to be known.

>>92399664
yeah but they're FASHIONABLY gay

kinda like drinking cum but without swallowing the little babies in a martini glass

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>>92399011
>>92399103
Does pic related have feathers? I think it's a mix.

Which dinosaur is sexiest?

>>92398936
I'm more pissed that everyone has a boner for T-Rexs and Velociraptors, every time a dino shows up 9 times out of 10 is one of those

tfw your favourite is ankylosaurus

ITT butthurt birblovers upset by sexy scaled 'saurs.

Teasing aside, it might be easier to draw the featherless, Jurassic park inspired business that most of the world is familiar with. Who knows?

>>92400168
>ankylosaurus
You sir are a Patrician

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>>92398936
Pretty much all dinosaur media has always been inaccurate by the science of the time because writers are not paleontologists.
The only exception is when they are.

>>92400748
hey, I own that book. Haven't read it since I was in elementary school though. I remember liking it though.

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>>92399224
>PLUS cretaceous era dinosaurs are the only ones who could have possibly had feathers
>birds started to become their own group during jurassic
>crocodiles and birds both have genes required to produce feathers and the evolutionary lines that led to them separated somewhere during triassic
>pterosaurs had fuzz that probably was related to feathers and the lines between them and birds also separated back during triassic
>it is not like they've found pre-cretaceous dinosaurs with feathers like kulindadromeus, sciurumimus, or yi qi

>>92400168
Spinosaurus master race

>>92401018
fisheating sail duck

>>92401042
Spotted the tiny arms pleb

>>92400225
if they were that cheap it would just look like fur

>>92399103
Is there any evidence to suggest a Tyrannosaur had feathers?

Figure it was mainly dromaeosaurs and smaller bipeds.

>>92401219
It's confirmed that it's Chinese grandpa had feathers
But they did find t-rex skin so even if it had feathers it was only on part of it's body

>>92401219
No direct evidence, but many of it's close relatives had feathers. So it could go either way.

>>92401219
>>92401259
Ancestors had feathers so young t-rexes probably had feathers for insulation. Adults wouldn't need them for insulation because they are so big, but they may still have had them for display.

A couple of feathers is fine. Drowning the fucking things in feathers is just part of the academic conspiracy to de-fang the entire concept of dinosaurs altogether. It's the same as these hit pieces on dinos that these hack frauds put out, like the T-Rex being a nuzzler. They're just trying to soften the public up so that no one objects when they try to open up their own Jurassic Park.

>>92400091
Nodosaurs were lizard-hipped, so they wouldn't have feathers.

>>92401312
>t-rex being a Nuzzler
Nani

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>yfw you find out birds are just neotenic theropods
>and mammals are neotenic therapsids
>and humans are neotenic apes
>and all vertebrates are neotenic tunicates

>>92401219
Image exceeds filesize limit so I can't post it. Go here:
http://arvalis.deviantart.com/art/Saurian-T-rex-Infographic-556213086
That guy discusses the topic and shares skin impressions.

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>>92400225
>scalies

>>92401332

http://www.nationalgeographic.com.au/history/t-rex-loved-a-snout-rub.aspx

https://www.thetimes.co.uk/edition/news/sensitive-snout-made-t-rex-a-gentle-lover-9mfckfpn8

https://www.theguardian.com/science/2017/mar/30/tyrannosaurus-rex-was-a-sensitive-lover-new-dinosaur-discovery-suggests

>>92401219
Indirectly: Most likely! Ancestors/relatives all have it.

Directly: the few patches of skin we do have are bare (or scaly), but they would be spots that are bare (or scaly) in many modern ground birds too.

So, it can't be ruled out with what we do have directly, and indirectly it's screaming "Hell Yeah!"

>>92401291
feathers aren't just for insulation. Emu feathers also keep them cool in Australia's deserts for instance.

>>92401312
>Drowning the fucking things in feathers is just part of the academic conspiracy to de-fang the entire concept of dinosaurs altogether.

They're animals, not a concept.

Just because you want them to be movie monsters doesn't mean they were.

>>92401383
Honestly the idea of a fearsome blood hungry beast being all cuddly and loving with it's mates is kinda funny

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>>92401312
>academic conspiracy

>>92401408
How? They don't even have blood flow or conduct away heat. They aren't like elephant ears that pump warm blood through to radiate heat away.

They can CONTROL their body temperature by controlling their feathers, like fluffing them or whatever to let the air in to cool themselves, but not to radiate more heat away then they would be able to if they had no feathers at all. More likely than not they have those feathers for cold Australian nights and then simply try to cope with the excess insulation during the day by opening them up to breezes when hot.

>>92401483
Well, they are animals. Even wolves, bears, and tigers need someone to love.

>>92401077
Nah my favorite dinosaur is therizinosaurus

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>>92401450
>>92401488

>>92401545
Not saying you can't like other dinos
Just saying that spino is god tier because swimming Dinos are cool as fuck

>>92401219
>Is there any evidence to suggest a Tyrannosaur had feathers?
Yes, feathers existed in the dinosaur genome as early as the triassic, many closely related species to T.rex that were also contemporary to it had thick feather covering.
We can't be 100% possitive until full skin impressions are found but t.rex fossils are already difficult to come across, however it's a safe bet.
>inb4 someone brings up carnotaurus for no fucking reason

>>92401545
Im raising an army of these in ARK right now

didnt realize how kick ass they are when they first came out.

They look so weird though

>>92401312
Yeah and how can we be from monkeys if there are still monkeys!?

>>92401601
>carnotaurus
Why?it was featherless?

>>92401383
You are aware that lions and other big cats and bears as well all show affection to their family members as well right?
Dinosaurs are animals not monsters from a childrens story

>>92401508
Because they're a secondary cooling system (which is why Ostridges don't have big fluffy feathers, as they don't have to deal with the cold that Emus do).

Keep in mind, if they don't have feathers, then they be as naked as Ostridge legs (or but).

And the idea of a baby being feathered while the adult is scaly is ludicrously stupid.

>>92401611
When they first found it's arms they thought it belonged to a carnivorous turtle
Pretty funny if you ask me

>>92401291
>Adults wouldn't need them for insulation because they are so big,
FUCK RIGHT OFF WITH THIS TIRED ARGUMENT
Feathers are not only for insulation they can also be for radiating heat away from the core.
I guess ostriches and emus and cassowaries don't have feathers either right?
I guess the Moa didn't have feathers either right?
fucking armchair biologists

>>92400880
>>92400863
Loved this.

>>92401508
>How? They don't even have blood flow or conduct away heat.
Do radiators have blood?
Do heat sinks have blood?
They are conductive extensions of their body that is how they radiate heat

>>92401508
surface area. That's how you cool

>>92401658
My point is that the argument doesn't work for T-rexes. Those feathers don't cool anything. They simply help control body temperature. They would be cooler without any feathers.

Adult t-rexes wouldn't have had any problem with keeping themselves warm at night so they wouldn't need feathers for insulation nor to control their body temperature. If anything they would want to have no feathers such that they can deal with excess body heat during the day.

MAYBE they had feathers for display and tried to negate the insulation like you say modern birds do when not.

>>92401641
Presumably at least that is the current theory based on discovered skin impressions.
However it's also not something that can be compared to any other theropod since its was a bit of a freak, it lived in an area of the world that was completely isolated when it was alive and evolved very strangely due to that, for example it's arms were completely vestigial and just hung limply at the side of it's body, it had four fingers it's hips were designed differently pretty much making it impossible to quickly change direction
it's neck was different and it was covered in spikes.
Carnotaurus was weird.

>>92401739
Or maybe that's not how evolution works and they still have feathers because their much smaller ancestors had feathers, and while theirs might end up evolving to be patchier or shorter due to their size, they would still have them.

It wouldn't make sense for their smaller dinosaur cousins to have feathers but for them to have no trace of them.

Because dinosaurs with feathers look retarded.

>>92401728
Your computer radiator doesn't do anything if you don't have a way to conduct heat into it. Just tossing it into your computer case rather than attaching it to your CPU with thermal paste doesn't do anything. Similarly feathers don't do anything without blood flow. They can control their body temperature, but they can't cool themselves any more than they could if they had no feathers at all.

They might help with sunlight though.

>>92401704
And you think feather shafts are as thermally conductive as metal?

Come on, anon. At least think your posts through before posting.

>>92401838
>And you think feather shafts are as thermally conductive as metal?
They don't have to be.
wood isn't as conductive as metal but it will still absorb heat

>>92401805
We are talking about millions of years. That's more than enough time for a few t-rexes to die of heat stroke and leave the ones with fewer or no feathers. Look at humans.

If they kept them then it would be for a purpose, like display.

>>92401855
Wood is a terrible thermal conductor.

>>92399518
I saw this the other day. Really fucking cool discovery.
Do we have any other finds as well preserved as this one?

>>92401863
And yet Ostridges still have feathers. Millions of years in a desert and they still have quite a lot of feathers.

And then there's Rhea, who have even more feathers and live in similar thermal environments to T. Rex

AND WHALES HAVE MUSTACHES WHEN THEY ARE BORN! They have been water born for 50 million years, and they STILL have hair!

So 'a few million years' is NOT enough. Especially when we have Yutyrannus in its phylogeny.

>>92401863
Except that's not how any of this happened. Last I checked the leading theory for us being balder than other apes is due to diseases spread by lice, causing the ones with the least hair to survive.

Meanwhile there are plenty of animals, large and small, in hot climates with plenty of hair. It's usually short, sometimes thinned out, and then they find other means of losing the heat. If whether creatures kept their hair was a matter of size the giraffes would be bald.

It's possible and that has happened with a few species that are alive now, but it's not a sure thing.

Did T. Rex have feathers?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uM5JN__15-g

Yes. Most likely, but not totally.

>>92401812
convection isn't the only heat transfer mechanism. Conduction also works.

>>92401973
If that were the case then lots of mammals would be hairless. When a disease hits (spread by lice or whatever) then those susceptible die and those who are immune or resistant survive. It's not typically a slow thing that one evolves for.

Humans lost their body hair because of our hunting method. Instead of laying in the shade of trees all day like our ancestors we evolved to hunt on the savanna using persistence hunting.

It's all rooted in the composition of our sweat. Animals with a lot of body hair need sweat a lot of oil to wick away the moisture they also sweat. However if they sweat too much the oils build up and produce a lather that insulates and the animal dies of heat exhaustion. Humans however don't need that oil so we sweat mostly water. This allows us to do strenuous activity even on very hot days in Africa so long as we stay well hydrated. It allowed our ancestors to literally run animals down during hot days until the prey died of the heat.

Look up persistence hunting. A tribe in Africa practiced it until relatively recently.

>>92402048
That's why I brought up computer heat sinks. Conduction doesn't work unless you have a very good heat transfer medium. Technically winter jackets conduct heat, that doesn't mean you won't die of a heat stroke if you wear it on a hot day.

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>>92401312
I agree, it's just another conspiracy by the MAINSTREAM MEDIA

>>92401483
>what are cats

>>92401508
I dunno, but I saw a thing that said that Emu feathers are better at keeping them cool than Red Kangaroo fur.

>>92402156
That's a very good question . . .

>>92398936
Most dinosaurs had scales, not feathers, fossil analysis concludes
https://www.theguardian.com/science/2015/jun/03/most-dinosaurs-had-scales-not-feathers-fossil-analysis-concludes

>>92402161
Maybe that has something to do with feathers being able to stand on any better than fur?

>>92401804
>be carnotaurus
>be ugly and weird
>the other dinos ignore me
>t-rex is the face of dinosaurs
>spino is the river king of Africa
>they both were featured in a shit ton of games and movies
>the biggest part I ever got was in a shitty Disney movie nobody remembers
>I can't feel my arms
>isolated from everyone
why did carno get cucked so hard

>>92402232
The problem with that study is that the result hinges upon whether or not pterosaur pycnofibers are homologous to dinosaur protofeathers. If it is assumed they are, then the result switches the other way, that integumentary filaments are ancestral for Ornithodira.

>>92402351
>the disney movie didn't even portray them right
>just made them into a scary T-rex
>they're actually more like a cheetah and could whip their heads to the side and open their mandible almost like a fish to blindside their prey

>>92401370
> tyrannosaurus budgie
every fucking time

It's bullshit but I want to believe it

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>>92400168
Triceratops is best

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>>92401370
>Tyrannosaur's preferred method of hunting was rolling over their prey

>>92402523
>they could make a Scene where the carno starts screaming in the protags face until it's jaw fully opens and the scream becomes louder and distorted for nightmare fuel
>instead they didn't
>and instead went with generic "carnivores are evil" thing

>>92401810
>Because dinosaurs with feathers look retarded.
And shrink-wrap scalies don't.

>>92402975
>where the carno starts screaming
Isn't it established a number of these guys either had no vocal cords or at best sounded like a giant rooster, or was that just T. Rex and I should shut the fuck up and sit here in the corner

>>92398936
Featherfags should be dragged into the street and have their fucking throats cut

>>92401884
But it is still a conductor

>>92402232
Scales and Feathers are not mutually exclusive.
Most dinosaurs were ornithischians
Also nobody assumes that ornithischians had feathers only theropods are known to have almost universally had feathers maybe sauropods as well.

>>92403310
Kent Hovind pls

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>>92403481
>Also nobody assumes that ornithischians had feathers

Guess that you're one of those niggers that hasn't yet found out that there is plenty of evidence of feathers&feather like structures among Neornithischia.

>>92403333
Stop being an idiot, anon-friend.

>>92403225
That's correct. They don't

>>92403333
>But it is still a conductor
The reason you can walk (quickly) on burning coals at 1000°F but not on metal heated to 200°F is BECAUSE wood is such a poor conductor of heat.
> in b4 Leidenfrost effect

>>92403639
>That's correct. They don't
They didn't.
http://imgur.com/a/wCKgh
BTW I'm probably old enough to be your dad and thought this looked cool once too, but you learn to accept change when new information comes along

>>92400168
Ankylosaurus is pretty great. I like the baryonyx too.

>>92403481
Except they are mutually exclusive in almost every feathered or protofeathered theropod (the filaments in Kulindadromeus may or may not be related, but the fossil really requires a more detailed study).

The evidence for scales on Juravenator's body is very very very weakly correlated, since the scales were found away from the body fossil itself. The reticulae on bird's feet are feather's who've had their development stunted, and are not the same thing as lizard/croc scales.

Yutyrannus does not preserve any scale impressions... and yet we've found several tyrannosaurids with scale impressions.

This either means that (a) Tyrannosaurids are exceptions to the norm and lost much of their tyrannosauroid ancestor's covering, or (b) Yutyrannus is not actually a tyrannosauroid.

I find the latter to be more likely, given that many tyrannosauroid characters are found in many large theropods (I've heard it called a wastebasket family before, IIRC). Plus, given the odd and ever-shifting placement of megaraptora, I'd argue that it is a Megaraptoran, and that Megaraptora, rather than being a tyrannosauroid or carnosaur group, is a unique branch of coelurosauria that is closer to maniraptorans than "true" tyrannosauroids.

This is all conjecture of course, but I wouldn't be too terribly surprised if a taxonomic analysis in the future returns results like this.

>>92403279
Birds have no "vocal cords" as we see in mammals, and many dinos would've had a syrinx or similar precursor. That's doesn't mean they all quacked and tweeted, though. Look at the HUGE variety of sounds the 10,000 species of birds can make.

>>92403279
The movie shouldn't be 900% realistic, you can change certain things for The sake of the movie
Totally realistic animals never make good villains

>>92404098
I always thought Dinos made really deep hisses
Kinda Like a crocodile but deeper

>>92398936
Because that's not intimidating.

>>92404175
>>92404098
>>92403279
Allow me to play the song of my people
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dcQO6Zb8Eg

>>92404243
You just beat me to it.

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>>92404308
cassowaries are cool man

although if I'm being totally honest,
that last segment sounds like the BLOOP or another of thos unidentified submarine sounds

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>>92404243

>>92403812
You . . . you are aware that bird feet are scaled, right?

>>92404175
Worked for Jurassic Park.

>>92404350
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgUdRo9eYoQ
> fur-like feathers
> razor claws on agile feet
> 30mph run
> quills on forelegs
> 130lbs, only smaller than an ostrich
> bright colored skin like a mandrill's

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real question here is why people don't think birds aren't cool as fuck

>>92401291
I like the idea of t-rex babs being fuzzy chicks and which then turn into behemoths when they're older.

>>92404540
The face of a stone cold killer

>>92404540
Some are. It's just the idea of dinosaurs being lumbering or sleek reptilian behemoths is somewhat ingrained within our culture and a big part of their identity for us. Covering dinosaurs with feathers, especially ones that were the epitome of 'reptilian overlords' just seems…wrong.

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>>92404568

>>92404628
>Implying birds aren't reptiles

>>92404628
>Covering dinosaurs with feathers, especially ones that were the epitome of 'reptilian overlords' just seems…wrong.
Except we never did. If anything, we plucked them naked to fit our definition of "cool".

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>>92402022
fuck

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>>92404628
>mfw a t-rex with a cape and a crest made of feathers

>>92404632
>AYYY NIGGAS WHADDUP

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>>92404628
People just automatically associate birds as chickens, pigeons, robins and parrots.

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>>92404673

>>92403481
>Most dinosaurs were ornithischians
Avian dinosaurs pretty much outnumbered non-avian dinosaurs between 10 to 100:1 by the Cretaceous

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>>92402022
>he's trying to hold hands
Degenerate

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>>92404661
>>92404668
Keep in mind in the early days we didn't know any better. For decades we just assumed they were reptiles and plenty of people still consider them as such. Not everyone's on the ball with species classification.

>>92404628
>>92404540
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4dcQO6Zb8Eg

>>92404743
Forgot about this dude here
Literally one of the best pokemon designs, and by far the best fossil

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I like this thread. It is a good thread.

>>92404450
>casually walking with my gf in the zoo
>get to the cassowary
>had seen the thing in pictures but knew nothing about it
>stop for a moment then start walking past it
>"you know, honey, that bird is probably extremely dangerous. Usually, the bigger the bird, the more aggressive and daring it is. Even swans can be scary if y-"
>ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>that think had been following us along the fence's perimeter
>it was looking straight at me and I swear its eyes said "I'm going to fuck you up"
>the sound was more velociraptor-like than anything I'd heard in any iteration of dinosaurs in any media
>I'm still convinced this thing would mop the floor with Spielberg's puppet lizards
>noped all the way back home

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>>92404834
I like the cassowary stuff in this thread but science is killing my childhood.

I hope at least t-rexes were covered in long black and sleek cloak feathers to keep them edgy.

If you hate feathers on dinosaurs, you never liked dinosaurs to begin with.

>>92398936
Coconut effect. Don't >>92398950 JP at time of production was actually working with what was considered correct by paleontologist at the time, not their fault that the latter found out they were wrong about a small number of very big details when the movie was about to release and found out many more new things over the coming years.
>>92399011
Maybe, but they are more expensive.
And what >>92399462 is pretty much correct, the image we have of most dinosaurs are all "educated guesswork".

>>92404859
Alright let's not go too far
An actual utharaptor would tear it to bloody pieces seeing as they're both bigger and bulkier than the ones in

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>>92399224
imagine that people of the future alien civilization will going to have the same conversation about birds

>>92404987
ye dude i was memeing

However that thing is legit scary

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>>92404975
>JP at time of production was actually working with what was considered correct by paleontologist at the time

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>when you realize that the t-rex likely had the same death stare eagles have today
Lord have mercy

>>92400863
so adorable

>>92404936
>science is killing my childhood.
Maybe your childhood was killing science and science decided to fight back

>>92405040
It's legit a direct descendant of the dinosaurs
Pure badassery runs in it's blood

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>>92405034
do remember scholars used to think Basilosaurus (prehistoric whale) a reptile before. Any changes are totally possible.

>>92398936

Because comic book writers and comic book artists are, for the most part, lazy, subnormally educated morons.

I wish I was kidding.

>>92405058
>Dilophosaurus is featured in both Michael Crichton's 1990 novel Jurassic Park and its 1993 movie adaptation. It is depicted as venomous, being able to spit venom, aiming for the eyes to blind and paralyze its prey (much like a spitting cobra); in the film, it also has a retractable neck frill around its neck (much like a frill-necked lizard). There is no evidence to either prove or disprove either the frill or the venom spitting,[58] which was acknowledged by Crichton as artistic license.[59] In the film, Steven Spielberg also reduced the size of Dilophosaurus to 3 feet (0.91 m) tall and 5 feet (1.5 m) long in order to avoid confusion with Velociraptor.[60]
Well, it's still hollywood, but for the most part they did.

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>>92405070
Not necessarily, maybe they had cute shiny black eyes like chickadees

>>92401333

One wonders what the next step is.

What do neotenous humans look like?

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>>92405234
>>92405058
WOULDN'T THAT SHIT BE BALLER THO

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>>92399011
Not really.
BBC Walking With Dinosaurs series made liopleurodon some kind of a giant 25-metre long terror of the ocean, when in reality the biggest found remains of liopleurodons suggest that they were barely half that long and didn't threateningly loom over smaller creatures. It's also questionable if they ate land dinosaurs who happened to walk across the shore at all, yet it's the first thing we see WWD liopleurodon do.

http://nerdist.com/new-dinosaur-zuul-ghostbusters/

>>92404790
I'd love to see something with Victorian-style dinosaurs. I always thought their idea of the Iguanodon, inaccurate as it was, looked pretty rad.

>>92405234
They just had to make dilophosaurus interesting for the movie, an actual dilophosaurus doesn't have a lot going for it
In remember watching a dinosaur cartoon since my little cousin was watching it and in each episode focused on a single dinosaur and taught the audience things about said dinosaur
Every dino had it's personality to represent it, for example t-rex had a crown and was obsessed with meat, baryonix was a fisherman and so on
The only thing they could do with dilophosaurus was stating that it liked the number 2 because it has 2 crests
Get what I mean?it's just really dull for a movie monster

>>92401739
>Adult t-rexes wouldn't have had any problem with keeping themselves warm at night
debatable. They are roughly the size of elephants but with a larger surface area which means that they would disperse more heat and with a lower metabolism which means they produce less heat

>>92405412
Victorian dinos are THE SHIT
Upright lizardlike t-rex?fucking count me in

>>92405506
Correction: we don't have any reason so far to believe the dilophosaurus would have any trait that would make him interesting whatsoever.
I'd like to know more about that cartoon you speak about, however.

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>>92405272
Isn't it obvious?

>>92405559
If you are saying feathers are better at dispersing heat than no feathers I have to disagree with you. They have no blood flow and the shafts wouldn't particularly conduct heat away either.

The only reason I can imagine a large dinosaur would be cooler with feathers than without is if they lived around the equator. Sun would warm their feathers rather than their skin and the surface area of the the feathers would dissipate the heat. They would not however do well dissipating heat produced within the dinosaur itself.

>>92405613
Don't remember the name but it shouldn't be too hard to find

>>92405336
It was clearly a magical liopleurodon.

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>>92405412
>>92405566
I still hope people will use those dinosaurs designs sometimes in the video games. They are all literally the combinations between mythologies and realities.

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>>92398950
Can't argue with that

>>92405717
He showed us the way to candy mountain!

>>92405661

I think there was a novel with that as a concept... Humans are atavistic Grays.

>>92405774

No he didn't, he just made unintelligible noise.

T Rex is the most based dinosaur ever and if you don't agree then you have shit taste

>>92405847
SHUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUN

>>92405895

Actually, it's probably true.

>One of the largest predators ever
>Objectively more advanced than Giganotosaurus and Carcharodontosaurus
>One of the last dinosaurs ever
>Has the coolest name any species on the planet has ever had

I know they aren't dinosaurs but I used to be (and still somewhat am) horrified by the sea reptiles of prehistoric times, mostly due to a book called Sea Monsters of long ago by Millicent E Seisam which I read as a kid and my thalassophobia

>>92405963
You forgot that it had the best eyesight of any known animal.

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>mfw someone mentioned that raptors were more like ground dwelling hawks that used their feathers to balance themselves while chasing down prey
>mfw feathered theropods are cooler than JP's mutant frog-asaurs

>>92406011

I didn't forget, I didn't know it at all. Thank you. I like to learn something new every day.

>>92404540
I like macaws, crows and tits, not the bird kind
most other birds are just creepy

>>92403634
You're the one claiming it is impossible for feathers to radiate heat

>>92406303
>I like (...) tits, not the bird kind

huehuehue

>>92403653
>is BECAUSE wood is such a poor conductor of heat.
My point was that being a poor conductor is not the same as not conducting at all. If wood wasn't a conductor at all it wouldn't be possible to light it on fire.
I brought this up because if even wood can conduct heat then it should be assumed so can a feather.
and I only brought this up because he had at first claimed radiation of heat could only be done in extremities that have blood flowing through them.

>>92405671
no, I was saying that a t-rex may have needed fur-like feathers to keep warm at night.
re-read carefully what I wrote.

>>92399950
>how limited knowledge we have, and how much we have to guess.

That was one of my favorite parts about Jurassic Park, the book. Clone a dinosaur, turns out it can fucking spit poison. There's literally no way you could know from the fossil record.

>>92405613
>we don't have any reason so far to believe the dilophosaurus would have any trait that would make him interesting whatsoever.
it could be a cute and adorable pet

>>92405272
like little girls. Women keep a more neotenic appearance than adult men. So a future more neotenic human civilization would look like 12/13 year old girls and cute traps.

>>92401329
>Nodosaur
>lizard-hipped
i think you meant bird-hipped, now its doubtful Ankylosaurs had any kind or integument a few bird hipped dinos have been found to have "feathers" mainly Psittacosaurus and Tianyulong

>>92406490
As was said much earlier in the thread, the theory is that large adult dinosaurs didn't need insulation. They produced more than enough body heat to keep warm. Juveniles may have needed, but adults likely only needed it perhaps for display.

>>92405141
>>92405040

it is a dinosaur. All birds are dinosaurs.
But I think eagles are scarier and more dangerous. If someone came to me and told me that he was sending birds to attack me and I could choose between a cassowary, osteich or golden eagle, and if I didn't choose then all 3 would attack me, and it was a credible threat, I'd choose the cassowary all the time.

>>92405963
thinking about it, it was probably the bear equivalent of the dinosaur world.
I hope it was as huggably fluffy as a bear

>>92401312
It isn't an academic conspiracy, it's a church conspiracy. Dinosaurs fly in direct conflict with literal interpretation of the Bible. However Jurassic park made dinosaurs rad so people want to believe they actually existed and that the bones weren't put there by Satan to cause us to doubt God. So the church has funded scientists to put forth theories that dinosaurs were huge pussy birds that nobody but gays and women like. Go ahead, try and refute this, you know it makes too much sense and must be true.

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When people say that feathers would just make dinosaurs look dumb, I like to point them in the direction of the bearded vulture.

>>92406642
>They produced more than enough body heat to keep warm
I was stating that this part is debatable. Ancient diosaurs had llower basal metabolism than mammals or birds, and a large surface area, so they might not have had need to disperse heat and might have had need to conserve it during night, even large ones as t-rex,

Reminder that dinosaurs shrank and become birds as the world see nowadays.

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>>92406947

>>92406818
Spino was more bear than the t-rex
Rex was probably more akin to a tiger

>>92404401
I mentioned that in my post?? 4th line down bud.

The "scales" on birds feet are called reticulae, and they AREN'T actually analogous to scales.

From wiki (which cites the sources, so don't get your panties in a twist):

"The tarsometatarsus and toes of most birds are covered in two types of scales. Large scutes run along the dorsal side of the tarsometatarsus and toes, whereas smaller scutellae run along the sides. Both structures share histochemical homology with reptilian scales, however work on their evolutionary development has revealed that the scales in bird feet have secondarily evolved via suppression of the feather-building genetic program.[1][2][3] Unblocking the feather suppression program results in feathers growing in place of scales along the tarsometatarsus and toes.[1][2][3] Dinosaur species very close to the origin of birds have been shown to have had "hind wings" made of feathers growing from these areas, suggesting that the acquisition of feathers in dinosaurs was a whole-body event.[3] The bottoms of bird feet are covered in small, keeled scale-like structures known as reticulae. Evolutionary developmental studies on these scale-like structures have revealed that they are composed entirely of alpha keratin (true epidermal scales are composed of a mix of alpha and beta keratin).[3] These data have led some researchers to suggest that reticulae are in fact highly truncated feathers [3][4]"

>>92406947
That looks dumb, tho.

>>92398936

>all these people who don't know about the befuckining, ornithoscelida, and the fact that under the old definition sauropods are technically not dinosaurs but

>>92406577
Dilophosaurus was like 20 feet long, that is not pet material.

>>92407633
no even with this proposed phylogenic model Sauropods and Herrerasaurs are still within Dinosauria

>>92398936
Because not only do these more recent studies have yet to reach out and replace their old misrepresentations in media, but more importantly, as "Jurassic World" stated, the reality of dinosaurs is actually pretty boring, so the classic representation is more interesting.

>>92407881
Well, technically they had to redefine dinosauria within the paper so that sauropods and herrerasaurians were still included - which is a bit of a double standard - but taxonomic names are only really important if they're useful, so I doubt you'll have any taxonomists up in arms over the issue.

>>92407970
yeh doubt anyone is gonna want Sauropods out of Dinosauria... could you imagine?

>>92407024
>shrank
there were always small dinosaurs anon

>>92407254
and the scales on feathered dinosaurs are the same as bird scales. So I don't get what your scalefag point is.

>>92407140
Yeah, I can see traveling back to the cretaceous era and having a super sized fucker that looks vaguely like that coming at me. And two more from the sides where I never suspected them. Clever birds.

>>92407140
whose mans is this

To be fair, Dinosaurs never really "lost" the evolutionary game, they just took to the sidelines and nowadays easily outnumber us everywhere on the planet... Its rather the opposite really, they won.

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I think dinosaurs will always be cooler without feathers

>>92404975
>JP at time of production was actually working with what was considered correct by paleontologist at the time,
They KNEW raptors couldn't turn handles on doors when they were making it (no dual ulna/radius present to make forearm twist possible). That was pure artistic license.

>>92403481
My point was directed largely toward the OP's claim 'most comics get dinosaurs wrong' seemingly based solely on his assumption that to do dinosaurs 'right' would necessitate including more feathers, the article goes some way to refute that assumption.

>DINOSAURS ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE FEATHERS
>we get feathered Godzilla soon.

>>92404975
Velociraptors are 1 and half feet tall....

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>>92408745
>feathered godzilla
>godzilla doesn't actually fight anything because hurr durr godzilla must be a scavenger because its so big

>>92406827
All I know is that I got too many genuine replies to that post. I knew this board had a bug up its ass about soapboxing, but I thought at least one person would get the reference. Shame on me for thinking /co/ had even a scrap of interest in friend simulators.

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>>92404243
dayum

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>>92405566
Well, it's not like we've completely discarded the idea.

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>>92404936
here you go

>>92408223
My point was in reference to tyrannosaurids... of which we have scales on not only the feet, but the neck, tail, and torso as well. Like I said, this would mean that either tyrannosaurids had a mish-mash of feathers and scales that are unprecedented, or tyrannosauroidea needs some major revision (obviously the latter is also dependent upon detailed taxonomic analyses).

The scales on feathered dinos - I can only assume that you are assuming that tyrannosaurids fall under that umbrella - do resemble the scutae and reticulae we see in birds... as well as the polygonal, pebble-like scales we see on gila monsters and hundred other reptile genera.

Reread the quoted portion again: it's suggestive of feathers being a "whole-body" evolutionary event.

The point is that a T. rex with a fuzzy poncho like in Saurian (as much as I like that one's design) doesn't really fit with the data we have. Could it? Yeah... but I'd like to see some proof of that.

We've got a tyrannosaurid mummy that should put this whole thing to rest one way or another.. once it finds its way to a public institution.

>>92408459

Ask a passenger pigeon whether they feel like winners.

Oh wait, you can't.

>>92409204

Really? Of all the atomic breath scenes, you pick that one? Why not the 1998 one? Sheesh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wpGK-H8tiaM

>>92408614
I don't know, as long as it was a handle (it was, if memory serves) and not a knob, any downward force would still rotate it. I had a dog who figured that one out.

>>92408870
Their problem was the name. There are plenty of other raptors the size they wanted.

Reminder that feathered dinos only existed in the final age of the dinosaurs before they were all wiped out and non feathered dinosaurs existed for millions of years before that

>>92408972
>scavanger
>not fighting
Vultures and jackals literally kill each other to get their claws on carcasses, weeb

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>>92409410
Hey now, Shin had some sweet atomic breath, but you have to see where Legendary was going with Goji. They wanted something a bit more "grounded" ("realistic" is definitely not the proper term for describing animals who break the square-cube law) than literal Lizard Goku, so they made his breath less of an instant death weapon and more of a hard uppercut that puts his enemies for a for a good while. For what they were aiming to do, I think they did it pretty well.

And besides, comparing this to what was literally just fire erupting in front of zilla's mouth to create an illusion of fire breath is kind of unfair, don't you think?

>>92409523
I like both shin and the new american Godzilla
But you just gotta admit that shin is superior, he really gives the impression of "giant unstoppable tower of death" which was Godzilla's core design since he rapresents nukes and what not

>>92409523

Another thing: "Let's have these dark-colored monsters fight at night-time! That should make for a compelling climactic battle!"

>>92409338
>but the neck, tail, and torso as well
no we don't.
We only have scales of the underside of the tail, which is knon to have scales in multiple feathered dinosaurs. Stp spreading those lies you smelly scalefag.
the rest of what you said is wrong too, we know that dinosaurs had feathers and scales at the same time.
You are willfully ignorant for the sake of your masturbatory fantasies. And I know you are voluntarily ignoring reality because i've argued with you on /an/ in the past, and you simply ignored any evidence posted and repeated your lies.

>>92409440
The producers went on record at the time that the raptors couldn't have done this, jsyk

>>92407024
Most modern birds are about the same size as their Mesozoic ancestors some are even bigger.

>>92408745
Godzilla isn't really a dinosaur though and he was never similar to an accurate dinosaur anyway so why would that change now?

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>>92409675
I know, and Shin definitely was unstoppable. All I'm saying is that LegendaryGoji was more of a "grounded" brand of unstoppable

Shin was unstoppable to Goku well, probably not, especially after Super, but you get the point

Legendary Goji is unstoppable to us humans

And yeah, the night thing might have been a cool, dramatic idea on paper, but people's screens are gonna pull different BS, and I don't think Garrett foresaw that.


>fuck webm for not showing a preview in the thumbnail so I can see whether or not this is one of the good ones.

let me ask this how do we know that dinos really had feathers or was the feathers from some birds that happen to be by when the dinosaur died ?

>>92409998
Nope, that wasn't it
Fuck webm thumbnails, mang

>>92408972
>>godzilla doesn't actually fight anything because hurr durr godzilla must be a scavenger because its so big
Quoting Jack "I propose an insane new hypotheis every year to stay relevant" Horner as an attempt to undermine feathered dinosaurs is like Creationists pointing out hoax hominid fossils to undermine evolution.

>>92408459
>never really "lost" the evolutionary game
they moved down the food chain, yeah they lost

>>92409523
that got me so hyped when I saw it in the theater

>>92398936
I honestly did not expect this thread to be as intensely educational as it turned out to be

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>>92410203
I went on the opening weekend and my theater was packed with old farts who grew up on Godzilla, my grandpa included. As soon as that blue tint came on screen, you could hear one of them saying "OOOHH, YOU'RE IN TROUBLE NOW!"

>>92410238
Dino threads usually get this way. Same with some bug threads

Learning is fun

>>92410051
>>92408972
why do people think being a scavenger is uncool and undignified?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bfG--Jqr0_I
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0kRvl8cenaw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOe7yVBeMtY

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>>92410408
If you really gonna claim that it isn't undignified looking you probably shouldn't had included two videos staring the feline niggers of Africa.

>>92410447
I fear you are too far gone

>>92408870
Yes, the fact that Utahraptors are indeed not another breed of velociraptors was only discovered by paleontologists on the same year that the movie came out. Hence why I said "at the time of production".
>>92409918
Well that's a pretty bold statement considering that what >>92409440 is correct and indeed the scene doesn't show the raptors turning their wrists at all.

>>92409998
>>92410295
This is such a forgettable movie. I recorded and watched it a month ago and in the middle of viewing it I realized I had watched the movie start to finish like a year ago and completely forgot.

>>92409462
fucking Archaeopteryx you dunce

>>92402351
to be fair it's been speculated that carnotaurus was the most powerful and brutal sauropod hunter.

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>>92409906
I'm going to ignore the smelly scalefag comment. But I do have to ask Where? Besides Juravenator (dubious) and the ornithopods (we've still no idea what is happening here...)
Do you mean the scales on the feet? I'm more than happy to have a discussion dude, but I would like you to point out specific examples. What specimen preserves scales on the bottom side of the tail, and feathers on the top?

Regardless, we do have scales from the feet (Tarbosaurus) which doesn't tell us much for the sake of this discussion. The neck impression from Tarbosaurus is actually glabrous (smooth), so that's a point for you, though I can only say this third hand as I do not have access to the paper (using pic-related as reference). Finally, we've got skin impressions from the side (not really the underside, but the lateral portion) of Wyrex's tail. So, upon review, my two scenarios are a bit premature... though I remain skeptical of a mish-mash of feathers/proto-feathers and scales.

And I remember you from /an/ as well. I don't hold any ill will, but yeah, that's probably me you're thinking of. You mentioned there were places on Yutyrannus that didn't preserve feathers and so inferred that there must have been scales in those places. Which is reasonable, but its not hard evidence. But that's about where our discussion ended. You huffed and puffed and then the thread died.

I really don't have personal preference whether Rex and its kin were feathered - I quite like both Saurian designs, as well as Alexander Lovegrove's artwork. Whatever the animals looked like I'm sure it was natural and cool (an eight ton biped with a head that size and shape is going to be badass regardless of body-covering).
Listen, I even illustrated two different scenarios for tyrannosaur integument - one feathered mish mash version (the Saurian model) or the purely scaled version. Again, the animal was what it was. I'm just picking at the data we have.

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>>92411065
Example of naturalistic feathered rex that I'm fond of. Listen anon, you sound like a pretty smart guy, but you gotta understand not everyone buys into feathered rex, carnosaurs, or ancestrally feathered archosaurs just because they're scalefags - integument is a pretty complex subject, and we, as always with paleo, need more specimens. I've had conversations with more than a couple professionals who are skeptical of a fuzzy rex.

Jack Horner is a fucking hack who needs to leave paleontology for the good of everyone else

>>92411378
Fuck you. I grew up watching stuff with him. Bob Bakker was my favorite though.

>>92411520
Dude married an 21 year old student at like 65. He's a creep, and proposes untestable hypotheses and then doubles back saying "I was just stirring the pot!" It's bad science, and its just to get himself back in the limelight. Remember the chicken-o-saurus? That ridiculous farce?

Bakker is an oddball, but he's a genuine and nice oddball, who is a heluva writer.

>>92411614
>Dude married an 21 year old student at like 65.
WTF I hate paleontology now!

>>92401927
Not quite as well but along the same lines of amazing

We found a dinosaur tail preserved in amber

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2016/12/feathered-dinosaur-tail-amber-theropod-myanmar-burma-cretaceous/

We also found a fossilized Psittacosaurus with preserved color cells so we have the most accurate coloration of any dinosaur yet

http://news.nationalgeographic.com/2016/09/dinosaur-camouflage-fossil-find/

>>92401927
>>92399518
>>92411703
Didn't they find some T-Rex bones with live cells in their soft tissue?

>>92411614
Bakker is so fucking based

>BTFOd a lot of Horner's bullshit
>wrote a book that is having everything in it turn out to be true

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>>92406577
>>92406577
>like little girls. Women keep a more neotenic appearance than adult men. So a future more neotenic human civilization would look like 12/13 year old girls and cute traps.

That's a pretty interesting idea

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>>92405034
Or cats

>>92410408
>why do people think being a scavenger is uncool and undignified?
The point was T.rex was not a pure scavanger, it hunted but it wouldn't pass up a free meal either. Horner claimed that Rex would be too slow to chase after prey, in truth it probably got food in different ways depending on it's age with younger rex's hunting in family packs with their siblings and adolescents hunting solo or with mates and the oldest rex's maybe scavanging or hunting slow prey.

people just don't like change. they prefer the dinosaurs they imagined when they were kids.

https://youtu.be/TFwHELWXtB0?t=5

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>>92412073
>implying that some of the old school interpretations weren't cool as fuck

>>92405034
Yeah too bad we took a fucking billion pictures of them.

>>92411378
I agree but Horner isn't the one that came up with feathered dinosaurs, it's been a known hypothesis since the days of Darwin and has been almost universally accepted as fact by paleontologists since the 1970's

>>92411614
>Dude married an 21 year old student at like 65.
And?
Are 21 year olds children or something?

>>92411989
*gets decapitated with a flail

>>92412156
For social acceptability.
Y = X / 2 + 7
Else you are a creep.

>>92412073
Why do people give a fuck about pluto not being classified as a planet? why was that ever a thing that laymen care about?

>>92404827
>Literally one of the best pokemon designs, and by far the best fossil
Not really.

>>92412247
That's like your opinion man

>>92412393
It's approximately the opinion of a lot of people. That's why I said SOCIAL ACCEPTABILITY.

If you are fine with huge age differences then good for you, but don't be surprised when most other people call him or her a creep. Just saying.

>>92401459

mmmmmnope

>>92405773
>cropped at the waist
>wearing pants
I'm not sure if i want to ask for the full image

>>92399103
Adult tyrannosaurids probably had no feathers.

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>>92405272

>>92406518
The book also makes a point that they are chimeras and not dinosaurs. With the scientist telling hammond these dinos ain't accurate and that they should take the chance to make them mpre tame. Of course, book hamlond was double retarded and that got him eaten.

>>92413981
>The book also makes a point that they are chimeras and not dinosaurs
The film makes that point also, more than once actually; Grant and Sattler directly tell Hammond that these are mutant monstrosities and later Grant explains how it's the frog DNA what makes them able to change sex given the lack of males.
The sequels also don't waste a chance to drive that point further.

>>92412106
Is that iguanodon sticking it's tongue out of it's jaw? What could they possibly misinterpret to get that?

>>92405272
We ARE the neotenic primates. When looking at other species of primate, primarily gorillas and the like, there is a very prominent sagittal crest. This crest serves the purpose of increasing bite force due to there being more bone of muscle to attach to at the cost of reducing brain size and growth. Our species found it unnecessary to have such a strong bite force and instead adopted the neotenic trait of no crest. A human skull looks very similar to that of a baby chimpanzee. So basically we have baby heads because your ancestors favored being able to smash nuts with rocks over biting through nuts

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>>92400091
I'm glad we got something cool like this in this condition instead of some boring tiny bullshit saurus or something.

>>92410203
>>92409523
I'd been drinking for a friends bachelor party when we saw this in theaters. We were drinking in the theater, too.

Our row fucking exploded when this happened.

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>>92406947
jesus christ

>>92405034
Now I'm wondering why there aren't any birds with mantis claws.

>>92400288
This man knows his priorities.

>>92400168
Patrician taste anon.

>>92405773
I want a lusty Argonian butler

>>92404827
My favorite is Kabutops, but Tyrantrum is a close second.

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Humans are already paedomorphic

>>92402351
Wasn't he the final boss of Dino Crisis 2, though? He shitted all over the chasing T-Rex and had to be killed by a satellite lazor.

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I feel ashamed there is a /co/ thread on dinosaurs and no sign of best /co/ dinosaur.

>>92410408
>waiting for someone to kill your prey and then go in and steal their food
>cool or dignified

Nigga that's exactly what bullies do in elementary school and then also happens in adult years with many businesses.

>>92417415
maybe the t-rex considered killing moreally wrong and chased the other predators because the t.rex considered them the bullies, while also preaching them to not kill. Then it'd eat the meat to not have the poor animal have died in vain

>>92416435
>>92411989
it's angel-like. In the future we'll look like angels.

>>92418842
And our brains will be about 4% smaller or something, how dreadful.

>>92416466

Nah, that was Giganotasaurus.

>>92400091
>rarest_pepe.jpg

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>>92401812
Feathers do have bloodflow though. How else do you think the thing grows?

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>>92405272

>>92400863
>>92400880
i want one

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>>92406577
>So a future more neotenic human civilization would look like 12/13 year old girls and cute traps
SOMEBODY FREEZE ME SO I CAN WAKE UP IN THE FUTURE RIGHT NOW

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>>92406947
>>92407140
Bearded vultures are great and your posts remind me that too few T. Rex depictions go with flashier displays of its potential feathers. Put some creativity into it! Make it flashy, royal, make it a true monarch of the dinosaurs! Give it a mane of feathers! Just something more than the dull "lol its fluffy" depictions, please!

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>>92404743
Exceptional taste

>>92421639
Isn't that just when the feathers are growing and stops when they are fully grown? Feathers don't grow back.

>>92423155
People putting flight feathers on large Therapoda just because Microraptors had them gets right up my ass...

>>92410295

that webm name is on point

the second the blue glow came on ATJ's face, I had a giant shit-eating grin on my face

my friend has never seen a godzilla movie so she had no idea what was coming and went "WHAT THE FUCK" when the atomic breath come, followed by intense whooping

that was a great scene

>>92413457
don't worry there isn't a bigger version thean that https://e621.net/post/show/573721/argonian-male-scalie-solo-tagme-the_elder_scrolls-

>>92423177

That 500% looks like a pokemon

>>92399975
I ordered two of these figures myself. Can't wait for fall.

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>>92423874
The movie had its flaws, but when it picked up, it got really damn good

>>92400168
>tfw Allosaurus hipster

pour one out for my nigga big al

>>92423396
Feathers do grow back though. At least once a year during molting or if the feather is plucked. Where are your facts coming from?

And the stage with blood can last for a good portion of the molt cycle with larger flight feathers, it's not a stretch at all that it could be extended up to the very end if a species felt adaptive pressure to do so.

bumpasaurus

>>92398936
Because actual "dinosaurs"(we really should give them a new name since they aren't even fucking lizards) are actually nothing more than shitty underdeveloped birds that can't even fly.
And in case you're here, Sean, they're FUCKING TRASH BIRDS!

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>>92423932
That IS a Pokemon

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>>92424574
Call them trash birds all you want
They still won the war

>>92424352
>allosaurus hipster
Nigga alllosaurus is one of the most loved

>>92411062
He's still pretty small and weak compared to beefy assholes like t-rex and spinosaurus
Also his arms make the t-rex arms look good

>>92399126
>>92399139
>>92399224
>>92399462
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uM5JN__15-g

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hug the dinosaur

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>>92400785

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>>92425274
DO NOT SEXUALIZE THE DROMEOSAURID

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>>92425274
Dinosaur stahp. You are not a people. You are not allowed to be sexy.

>>92425510
>we somehow revive dinos
>they have no idea what do with/make of humans
>they see we feed them/care for them
>so they decide we're good and we now have dinosaurs getting friendly and cuddley with people
>they escape all the time so they can pile on people's bed with them in them because it's warm and soft
>and some like humans too much

>>92425617
What if we do revive Dinos, what are we gonna do?
Release them in the wild? That would be catastrophic
Keep them in zoos?that would be cruel

Sorry for the autistic question anons
But I remember people finding the footprint of a spino some time ago and by that they determined it's length
Now the print was much larger than the feet we now believe spino to posses
The fuck does that mean

>>92425881
see
>>92400863