Dropping Samurai Jack

>>92365530
nigga if that cliffhanger didn't leave you pumped as fuck nothing ever will

You'll watch the end. Stop trying to kid yourself.

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>>92365530
There's just one more episode left you fucking child

There's no body.

How fucking stupid are you?

>>92365530
>dropping the entire series
>one episode left
Nerd-raging really hard there, boyo.

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This you OP?

What is it about "I ann-i-hil-at-ed every last time portal in existence." Don't you understand? I know it's a bummer, but you should've seen it coming. Besides, who drops a series right before the finale

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I wasted my time getting invested in this season. It's just been disappointment after disappointment. Now it's made me afraid to watch the new season of Twin Peaks. I'll finish this season, but I wish Genndy would have spent more time perfecting the ending rather than rushing it.

>>92365530

I dropped it the second I saw that and then waifu shit happened right after

Ruined, dropped as fuck. Can't believe I wasted my time on this shit

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>>92365567
YOU KNOW WHAT CLIFFHANGER LEFT ME PUMPED?

THIS ONE

HOW THE FUCK DO YOU JUST DROP A CLIFFHANGER LIKE THIS AND ABANDON IT FOR ANOTHER

>>92365581
>>92365603
See the last sentence. I understand there is one more episode left, however, I'm not watching the finale.

Give me one good reason to watch it.

KING JACK IS NEVER HAPPENING DESPITE IT BEING HYPED

>>92365660
>What is it about "I ann-i-hil-at-ed every last time portal in existence." Don't you understand?
I thought this shit was well hidden and Aku didn't know about it.

>Besides, who drops a series right before the finale
I am

Right now

>>92365530
>right before final episode

bullshit

>>92365660

You're joking right

I watched the ending to dexter season 8 and it was a huge disappointment and this is an even bigger fuck up than that. This is the worst thing I've ever seen, he should have just let the series die.

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I've never been so let down before

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>>92365711
>KING JACK IS NEVER HAPPENING DESPITE IT BEING HYPED
but what if it does happen?

>>92365711

I'm with you man

13:35 into episode 9 I closed it and that's it, not even bothered to see what happens now. It's just a giant cringe fest.

>>92365530
hahaha he's fucking dead.

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>>92365711
See you next week fampai

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>>92365711
>>92365530
Yeah. Dropping it. Sure you are.

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>>92365711
>>92365784
>ywn see king jack

>>92365789
Which bit of the episode is happening at 13:35?

>>92365711
>"King Jack was shown for 5 seconds dude hype!"
>"Dude the guardian beat Jack that makes him really important and stuff!"
>"He like had a time portal and that's like totally important!"
>"Aku didn't destroy all the time portals retard!"
>"The Guardian hid the time portal and survived! He beat Jack so that means he's OP as fuck! Aku couldn't have killed him cuz he beat Jack dude!"
>"GUARDIAN SHOULD HAVE BEEN FINAL OPPONENT IT'S NOT FAIR!!!!"
>"GUARDIAN SHOULD HAVE BEAT AKU!!!"
>"GUARDIAN SHOULD HAVE BEEN JACKS LOVER!!!!!"
>"REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"

>>92365530


See you next week, OP

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Dropping the series because of this episode is just sperging out way too hard. However:

I was pissed at how the guardian plot element was handled, too.

I have never felt so blueballed in my life. Did Genndy legitimately just handwave the biggest unresolved (and most interesting) plot element in the entire show?

It feels like Genndy has, in the last 13 years, forgotten some of the best aspects of the original show and has resolved to handwave them at the last second. The guardian deserved a better resolution, and if it isn't addressed in the next episode, I will always be sorely disappointed in Genndy.

>>92365763
You're just colossally butthurt your theory wasn't real.

No Rematch 4 U

>>92365711
>YOU KNOW WHAT CLIFFHANGER LEFT ME PUMPED?
>THIS ONE
How was that a cliffhanger?

>no build up outside of that ep leading to
>Hehe ohh not yet, nigga
>4 fucking seasons and 12 years later and never mentioned again

fuck off

Not gonna lie, a little part inside of me died when I saw those glasses. I guess that was the point.

>>92365929
You literally don't know what a cliffhanger is.

>>92365711
>HOW THE FUCK DO YOU JUST DROP A CLIFFHANGER LIKE THIS AND ABANDON IT FOR ANOTHER

You have to be a very dumb cunt to think that that time portal wont become active again. Why do you think the final fight is taking place there? I swear half the board is retarded and doesn't understand basic story telling

>>92365920
>Ever since I ERADICATED all the time portals

Both Jack and Aku acknowledged this.
Both of them.
Blue balls? What hype or hint was there of this fight???

>>92365961
>I swear half the board is retarded and doesn't understand basic story telling
Seriously. This season of SJ has opened my eyes to just how stupid some people on this board actually are

>>92365953
Ending of an ep causing suspense. Suspense being anxiety by an uncertainty of what comes next. King Jack exists in a vacuum canonically and was very much dumped and forgotten about in the next episode like most of the OG series, so I'm not sure what you're finding very suspenseful.

>>92365920
This. Because of the lack of body, I'll wait to see if be shows up in the inevitable Scotsman and others army to help Jack, but if this truly was the resolution to that storyline, they can fuck off.

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Aku fucking told you idiots that he eradicated ALL of the time portals.

>>92366029
Aku is wrong and a time portal was hidden from him. Alternatively, Jack could just kill Aku here and wait until the cave lizard people rebuild theirs.

Shame on you bunch of fucking crying babies.

The only thing that the return of the series have showed is that the Samurai Jack Fanbase is a bunch of ungrateful and selfish manchilds.

>>92365581
>Willingly eating shit because there's a little left

For what purpose.

The original series was fucking canned. Whatever Genndy had planned for that one, he clearly abandoned it in those thirteen years.

>>92365961
>>92365991
Screencaping these posts just in case the time portal is never addressed again.

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>>92366076
>Aku is wrong and a time portal was hidden from him
>doubting the master of masters
>in the year of our shapeshafting master of darkness Aku

Post the link to the episode you faggots

>>92365982
>Blue balls? What hype or hint was there of this fight???

Explain how the vision the guardian saw of bearded Jack through the portal will be handled since the guardian and portal are both de-facto eradicated?

Go ahead. I'll wait.

>>92366080
This is bringing me back to the days of the Mass Effect 3 ending.

No, we're not wrong or entitled, we just want a good fucking ending, BUT WE CAN'T HAVE THAT

>>92366133

OK , anon. You do that

>>92366013
>I'm not sure what you're finding very suspenseful.

I pity your lack of imagination. If you didn't find the Guardian episode interesting because of the potential resolution it implied, then truly we are of a completely different mind and I have no reason to try to explain the perspective to you.

>>92366152
>I'd kill him if he came face to face with me right now
Kek, we're reaching Alex Hirsch levels of butthurt.

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>>92366152
>He ruined the most interesting part of the series so some fat neckbeard nerds could rub their micro cocks on an aishi body pillow while he masturbated to tara strongs recordings imagining that he was fucking her. I'd kill him if he came face to face with me right now

>>92366133
Even if it doesn't won't change the fact. Knowing the basic tenants of storywriting doesn't make you into a prophet

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>>92366152
KEK'D

>>92366152
>The whore and jack are talking after showing the guardian was dead
That's right before Aku shows up and shoves Jack's shit in and turns Ashi into an evil demon though

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>>92365530
you'll be back

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>>92366152
>He ruined the most interesting part of the series so some fat neckbeard nerds could rub their micro cocks on an aishi body pillow while he masturbated to tara strongs recordings imagining that he was fucking her. I'd kill him if he came face to face with me right now

>>92365530
There's one episode left, you baby.
Besides, we all know you're going to watch it anyway, even if it is just so you can complain more.

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>>92366308
>there's real women I can have sex with

as fucking if faggot HAHAHAHA

>>92366277
You are correct in that I in fact have Asperger's syndrome, but I don't see what that has to do with my thread.

>>92366308
>Also aishi is a shit charcter
Honestly, the series would've been a lot more open if he'd killed ashi and bantered with angry jack instead. Introducing her kind of dragged the story through a bunch of predictable story and really brought the whole story down.

>>92366350

Not everyone is as pathetic as you, the only thing that's left me sexually frustrated is how badly this was fucked up.

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>>92366308
>there's real women I can have sex with
Are you sure?

>>92366147
the Guardian wasn't in the vision

>>92366308
>>92366390
We get it, you have shit taste.

>>92366390
>He ruined it so he could appeal to the dickless sexless nerds at comic con who jerk off to cosplay bitches before the go home and get gang banged by a football team
Well if he ruined it just for you, you should be more appreciative

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>>92366147
What are 'the future is never set in stone' and 'bearded king Jack was but one of multiple possible futures'?

Seriously anon. Is there nothing but air inside that skull of yours?
This is basic 'I Can See Far into The Future' 101 type shit here.
Get a grip, quit bitching, and come back next week to see what happens at the end.

>>92365763
Jack is going to go back to the past and be a lumberjack?

>>92366519
>What are 'the future is never set in stone' and 'bearded king Jack was but one of multiple possible futures'?

How could it be when he doesn't fuck age

And then why show it at all?

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>>92366152

>being this mad

Am I the only one mad there wasn't nearly as much gore as I wanted?

After the daughters of Aku, the gore just kind of stopped.

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>>92366589
>>Jack ages
>>He's king jack
>>Replace aishi with the scotsman
>>Jack gathers his old allies and forms an army
>>Aku is getting ready to regain his full power that he had from that birth of evil episode
>>Big war
>>Jack finally beats aku
>>Goes to the time portal
>>Decides against going back in time
>>Becomes king jack and dies a hero

That's could all be done in one episode, two at the most. So you're going to give me EIGHT episodes of filler? Fuck you.

>>92366628
he'll defeat Aku, and in doing so start aging again. In defeating Aku, he frees Ashi from his influence, and they live out their lives in the future. Upon Ashi's death, Jack is ready to go back to the past and defeat Aku for a second time. He steps into a portal that was either reactivated upon Aku's death or one he creates on his own, WATCHAAAAAAAA

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>>92366589

>He thinks any of that shit he listed would make a good finale

>>92366355
>but I don't see what that has to do with my thread.
New to 4chan, I see

>>92366147
Aku has changed the future at least once in the series.
The ENTIRE arc with him and Jack (when he was pretending to be that woman) was because he saw a vision of the future.

AKU CAN LITERALLY MAKE TIME PORTALS AND SEE IN THE FUTURE FOR FUCKS SAKE COME ON NOW I AINT GOTTA EXPLAIN SHIT

>>92366720
Oh I've been here for years, I understand that autism is used as an insult, and maybe it influences my attitude towards this a lot, but still.

Aspergers has nothing to do with the thread, this is about how shit of a writer Genndy Tartakovsky is.

>>92366589

I actually hate it when all the old allies arrive. It's such contrived bullshit. I'm not going to like it if the Scotsman shows up with the Wollies and the rave kids next episode either.

It was bad enough in Harry Potter Anybody remember that shit? "Then the centaurs arrived, and the house elves joined the fight, also Jane Fonda was there". It's awful

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>>92366589
>I could write a better season

>If I saw him right now I'd kill him!

Please don't stop I'm screencapping this shit for the salt mines I need this.

>watching it for the writing
If you treat SJ like a super serious story it just comes across as dumb, like most action-oriented media.
It's not supposed to be super clever, the story is just supposed to complement and guide the visuals. Not saying this isn't a fuckup but I don't see how it would make you drop the show.

fuck off contrarians

>>92366768
>Aspergers has nothing to do with the thread, this is about how shit of a writer Genndy Tartakovsky is.
You're throwing a bitchfit because a cartoon didn't go your way. Aspergers has everything to do with this.

Also if you've been here for years you know better than to actually admit you have assburgers.

>>92366806
The difference is Harry Potter is a bad series that brings out the autism in normies just like GoT.

Samurai Jack was actually something decent that I loved, and then this happens to it.

>>92366519
>>92366729
These are perfect examples of the shit writing that nobody wanted for the resolution of the guardian arc.

"The future isn't set in stone" is the be-all, end-all lamest imaginable cop-out for the set-up the Guardian episode originally did. The textbook definition of wasted potential.

If you're fine with that, so be it. But don't pretend like fans who wanted that plot element resolved have no axe to grind; it's a genuine grievance with bad writing.

>>92365530
GUARDIANFAGS
ETERNALLY
BLOWN THE FUCK OUT

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>>92366806
Pic related did it brilliantly.

>>92366628
>How could it be when he doesn't fuck age
I'm sorry, nowhere does it imply in anyway during the less than 30 second glimpse we saw of 'bearded King Jack' that Jack had actually AGED a damn bit.

All we knew was that he grew a big manly beard.

At the start of this series, 50 years later, Jack has A FUCKING MANLY BEARD.

>>92366768
No anon, it does. Your autism is allowing you to lose your cool and not think clearly because you disagreed with some of Genndy's writing/story-telling, and you're becoming completely unhinged as a result.

Seriously, chill the fuck out, smoke a bowl, and quit being so damn salty.

>>92366870
I did because I was hoping the thread would get screencapped.

>>92366888
who says it's wasted? Neither the Guardian nor the portal were in the vision, just King Jack.

>>92366806
The whole MUH ARMY TO DEFEAT ANY thing makes no sense since we saw how easily he already destroyed one.

>>92365530
This level of anal perforation is what fuels me. If you're so sure of yourself, why are you seeking validation?

>>92366909
>smoke a bowl
You pretty much have to be a weed smoking degenerate to like this shit.

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>>92366885
Three out of your eight. Give up any hope you have of being a writer dude. Or better yet send and angry letter to Genndy and show your alternative ending to Samurai Jack that was way better than his. I'm sure he'll be really impressed.

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>>92366442
What the fuck was up with Aku's lips and nose in this episode?

They looked super off.

>>92366993
don't fall for his bait. He's being over the top for attention

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>>92366998
his lipline was thicker than usual and his nose was colored differently

>>92366888
>"The future isn't set in stone"

Well for Samurai Jack, it really wasn't. Back when seasons 1-4 were airing, the writers at the time had no idea what the ending was going to be. So the Guardian episode with king Jack was pretty much something they made up at the time.

>>92366821
assblasted anons in SJ threads are a special type of fag

You'll never stop getting gold from them and
we've already established that the're mostly a specific type of person in past threads, all of them are colossal faggots

>>92367071
All the Guardian saw was that Jack was destined to go to the past. It just wont be through his own portal.

>>92365530
BOOHOO :'(

>>92366888
>But don't pretend like fans who wanted that plot element resolved have no axe to grind
No, they have a right to gripe about how that plot element didn't turn out the way they wanted it to.
Just like anyone who expected roles of the Scotsman, Da Samoorai, etc, etc. to be different from what Genndy decided.

There is legitimate griping, and there is pointless axe grinding.
OP is clearly doing the latter here based on his overreaction.

>>92367126
>All the Guardian saw was that Jack was destined to go to the past.
Weren't even sure of that one when that episode aired, to be honest.
May Jack does, maybe he doesn't. It'll all play out next week I suppose.

I was really looking forward to seeing the Guardian return.
>lol the strongest opponent Jack ever fought just died offscreen
This is total fucking bullshit.

>>92367188
but Aku is still alive

>>92367188
Aku is technically the strongest opponent Jack ever fought, Jack just has Akruptonite

>aku
>invincible against everything but one specific sword
>stoppable by the guardian
>stoppable by some magic portal
And
>a magic portal
>clearly 100% accurate prediction of the future

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>>92367188
No magic sword means your ass is toast my man

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>show was literally about trying to find ways to the past and always failing because of some plot-worthy circumstance
>people who probably didn't even watch old episodes latch onto one singular time he almost went back to the past but didn't just like every other episode because it was memed on /co/

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Who /drinkingthetearsofguardianfags/ here after this happened?

King jack is the most retarded thing ever, I am glad it was dropped. It should be emperor jack or shogun jack, lol king.

>>92365530
I don't blame you dude. This whole series was a movie that was stretched into a mini series. Genndy has been tainted by Adam Sandlers touch. This entire mini series with the exception of the first 3 episodes has been hot dog shit. Oh well, at least we get to see this train wreck end next week.

>Corrupting Ashi's body.
>Not also her mind.

Needed more DIE, SAMURAI!

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>>92365530
Really nigger? and did anyone drop the seinfeld series after it's finale?

>>92367591
technically everyone did

>>92367591
What happened in that finale?

>>92365530
>"I'M TOTALLY GOING TO DROP THIS GUYS! YOU'LL SEE!"
Never heard that one OP. See you next week, hope you'll bring better whine next time.

>>92367667
they got ass raped in jail and got AIDS

>>92365530

Everything was cool until Genndy inserted his imaginary girlfriend

>>92367625
Explain Evangelion too or even any tv show worth noting that never made any fan drop the series as a whole

>have a theme of ultimate despair through the whole season
>top it off with the last hope jack had being gone

its perfect

>>92366909
I'm baked as shit and I still think the last couple of episodes have been hot garbage. What the fuck is Genndy doing?

>>92367667
they went to jail for being terrible people

>>92367359
its not like it cant happen still

i mean jack has to do something once this shit is over with, unless hes dead

>>92366147
Aku has been shown to destroy premonitions and prophecies.

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>>92367802
>>92367625
They went to jail for being socialpaths like all you faggots on this entire site, that was the entire point of the show, no wonder you fags didn't understand the finale and rejected it altogether

>>92367905
I like Seinfeld. I even liked the ending. I was replying saying that technically everyone dropped it because it was the end of the show

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>>92365530
This episode was so fucking bullshit, and it's all because of Genndy's obsession with Ashi and forcing her to become a relevant character.

Are you serious? A fan-favorite character like the Guardian, whose rematch was Jack's destiny and way to go back to the past, gets killed off-screen and all we get is his broken glasses and Jack mourning him in silence for a single second before Ashi interrupts yet again? What the hell, and Aku's new voice-actor was so unbelievebly bad, it doesn't help that ruined the episode even further.

I'm watching the final episode next week just to see how this shitshow ends, and it sucks so goddamn hard because the first three episodes of this season were excellent. Fuck Ashi and fuck Jack's dependency on her.

>>92365530
What the fuck are you on about?
It wasn't "hyped up" at all.

what do we have to look forward to?
>last minute reunion with dead scotsman
>origin of the aku cult never revealed
>no more time portals
>that little guy who helped Ashi remains unknown
>rushed final fight
>hamfisted damsel-in-distress rescue

boy if they push the reset button on Jack and return him to his little kid years,that would fucking suck

>>92368023
>Are you serious? A fan-favorite character like the Guardian, whose rematch was Jack's destiny and way to go back to the past
see>>92367304

>>92368038
He's cognitively distorting what he had done personally with what Genndy had set up. Because Genndy and the characters in the show had said Aku destroyed all the time portals, but somehow people here got it into their heads that that somehow didn't include the Guardian's one.

>>92365909
>implying Jack/Guardian isn't the objectively best pairing of the series

Faggot.

can someone pls post the deleted posts from this thread from the mad as fuck anon?

>>92366277
>>92366720
>>92366870
>>92366909

Don't listen to these faggots, OP.

Name calling anons Autists is a meaningless 4chan meme that everyone is hopping on the bandwagon to sound funny or "enhances" their snarky and weak comments.

Anyone who cries out "Autist" or "Sperg lord"
1. Have no understanding what true Autism is let alone Aspergers Syndrome.
2. Most likely Autist themselves
3. (As stated previously) Bandwagon dick riders.

By 4chan logic, everyone on 4chan has a degree of Autism, you just gotta find the right buttons to push.

>>92368068
>>92367304
>because it was memed on /co/
>not because the episode literally ended prophesying that Jack would use it one day

>>92367071
>the writers at the time had no idea what the ending was going to be.

This is not an excuse; it is a rationalization. "the writers didn't know how the story would eventually end" does not justify writing an episode that explicitly references how the story will end and then handwaving it down the road and going "lol j/k". That's bad writing.

>>92367591
How can you drop a show after its finale?

>>92367905
>they go to jail for being sociopaths
>some of the charges brought up against them were just them genuinely trying to help but failing

Babu, or whatever his name was, was just a little bitch.

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Hey you dumb fucking bitches all we saw were his fucking glasses, isn't it still a possibility that we see him in the next episode?

>>92365530
>As a child
Of course you expected Samurai Jack to eventually succeed.

>As an adult, capable of understanding how genres work
You have to realize that the whole set-up of Samurai Jack was a gold-mine of potential stories to tell. Being optimistic, they wouldn't want to conclude Jack's story so long as they still had possible episode ideas to explore. They would have only given Jack closure when they were finally bored with the show and planned on ending it, or if the show was going to be cancelled and they might have had some time for a farewell arc.

>tl;dr
Autistic people have terrible media literacy

>>92368068
>>92367304
It was the single episode that promised the viewers that Jack will meet the Guardian again as he's the only one worthy of using the portal he's guarding in the near future, you apologist really do have your heads up your asses.

>>92368119
>>92368023
Jack would've used his portal to go back, but there's one little issue: Aku destroyed every single last time portal. This has been known for weeks, & if you still thought until tonight that there was a shot in hell that The Guardian was still gonna be around, you're fucking retarded.

>>92368023
>whose rematch was Jack's destiny

Who ever said that? The Guardian blocked the portal so only the destined to use it would be able to. They made no mention that the one destined to use it at the appropriate time would have to fight the Guardian

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>>92365711

>>92368168
Jumping on the Autist bandwagon I see.
>>92368112

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>>92365530
Honestly, The Guardian is simply a plot hole in the sense that the episode with the Guardian came out before Genndy had decided on an ending for the show, so he wrote himself into a corner there. He didn't think as much of that episode as the audience did

For a show that puts to much emphasis on destiny, they really didn't give a shit about the Guardian or King Jack because it was never gonna end that way.

>>92368023

As always waifufags ruin everything.

>>92368215
>Critiquing someone's grasp of subtext and understanding of implied information
>muh autism buzzword insult

>>92368185
No one did. But as usual, the autists on this site can't help themselves & kept thinking their headcanons matched with the actual story.

>>92368176
How could in the fuck could Aku even beat The Guardian? He can't even beat Jack. And Jack can't beat The Guardian. It's just math.

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>>92368225
King Jack was such a fucking alpha in the non canon comics.

>>92368176
Oh, fuck off, faggot. I knew that something happened to the Guardian when the Episode 9 sneak-peek promo was uploaded on YouTube, but to just reduce him into a 3-second scene without him even being there is lazy as shit. Besides, if Jack was able to defeat Aku but not the Guardian back then, what makes you think that Aku could defeat the Guardian? Dumbass.

>>92368185
The Guardian literally said "not yet, Jack. Not yet" and we were shown a future Jack. Like, did you even watch the episode?

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>>92368250
Aku can beat anybody but Jack's sword.

Jack's sword doesn't really do anything special against non-evil

The Guardian was not evil and a better fighter than Jack, but not better than the god of the world since he had no sword

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>>92365530
Not dropping the series. Nevertheless I was incredibly pissed at the end of the episode
>mfw episode ends
>mfw if it wasn't for reddit and morty we would have seen the end of the series already
>mfw

>>92368250
the Guardian didn't have an anti-Aku sword and Jack didn't have an anti-Guardian sword

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Does anyone have a link to the download?

>>92365530
Here's how I see it:
>Ashi breaks corruption long enough to control Aku's inherited powers
>Ashi (being part aku) tries to open a portal for Jack
>Aku stops her before the portal links all the way to Jack's original past
>Jack somehow narrowly escapes into this half formed portal
>akuraging.gif
>going through another portal (created from benevolence) allows him to age again
>portal spits a now aging jack back out near the guardian
>guardian recognizes him as "the one man to defeat him"
>Jack does so
>proceeds to go back to the past and finally defeat Aku.
It would be bittersweet, as he doesn't get to be with Ashi, but gets to defeat Aku anyway, undoing all the evil aku spread about the earth

He said it wasn't him who was to defeat him. He spared him because he wasn't supposed to fall to the Guardian at the time and he was going to kill him there before the vision.

>>92368091
>but somehow people here got it into their heads that that somehow didn't include the Guardian's one.

Maybe because an entire episode was literally dedicated to how Jack would use that portal in the future to return to the past.

Odd how some anons have memories and can remember plot elements that are unequivocally written to be relevant down the road. Shocking, yes.

>>92368225
>>92368266
do you think it's the comics fault they didn't go through with this plotline? like they wanted something unique to the comics, even if they were 'non-canon'

>>92368239
Oh, different guy. I completely understood what you explained. Well said and done.

I was pointing out the last sentence you call an insult.

>>92368275
we weren't shown a future Guardian or time portal though

>>92366173
I'd argue that's different, mass effect was on a constant down spiral eventually leading to a shit ending.

Then again I've enjoyed samurai jack series alot so far whereas mass effect could've been so much more and turned to shit so fast.

I imagine the reason everything is a bit rushed is because originally they were going to do the Samurai Jack movie to finish the series off, I reckon Gennedy had the script/plot finalised and has based most of that script for the movie on this TV series.

>>92368299
This is the best theory so far. King Jack still happens, he just never uses the portal.

>>92368275
>Besides, if Jack was able to defeat Aku but not the Guardian back then, what makes you think that Aku could defeat the Guardian? Dumbass

Gee i dunno, maybe it might have something to do with the fact Aku is impervious to almost everything but Jack's fucking sword.

Idiot.

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>>92368310
I don't know, but if so, that'd be kind of dumb. It was Genndy that made King Jack, but the comics gave him personality.

>>92368250
>>92368275
>If Aku couldn't beat Jack, how could he beat The Guardian, who Jack couldn't beat?
>>92368292

>>92368302
Jack was planning on using that one, but guess what? Aku destroyed them all.

is there a dailymotion for the ep?

>>92368250
What is the only thing that can defeat Aku?
Magic sword.
Any magic sword on Guardian?
No.
That means that Guardian can fuck off, Aku is all powerful Shogan of Sorrow, not a super awesome ninja-viking who rely on fighting skills.
>It's just math

>>92368358
yeah
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x5m7q96_samurai-jack-season-5-episode-11-full-xcxi-s5e11-streaming_tv

>>92368347
>Jack was planning on using that one, but guess what? Aku destroyed them all.

>eschewing all elements of foreshadowing is okay as long as the author handwaves a reason for it

This is rationalizing bad writing. A good author commits to their intentional foreshadowing. "Aku eliminated all the time portals" does not mean the Guardian portal plot was not resolved very, very poorly.

Aku did destroy all the time portals.

You know who else can *make* time portals?

Aku.

You know who is part Aku now? Ashi.

>>92368297
>Jack goes back to the past
>defeats Aku
>becomes King Jack

>>92368376
thanks man beats watching yt with spanish subs

>>92368250

>we dont get a flashback of the guardian aku fight

Not even that.

>>92368250
Aku pretty much fucks up anyone in his way, you can't kill him unless you're a literal god, or have a hoyl sord forged from the gods. Red glasses didn't have any of that.

>>92368395
that's not who king jack is supposed to be tho?

>>92368386
that's a really good fucking point actually

>>92368411
how do you know who King Jack is supposed to be?

>>92368250
WRONG.
The only reason Aku could never beat Jack is because of his magic sword.

Guess what the Guardian does not have? Jack's magic sword.
Therefore, Aku can defeat the Guardian. Hence the crushed glasses and destroyed portal.

>>92368411
says who? Maybe he comes to the future via that portal as king jack.

>>92368275
>The Guardian literally said "not yet, Jack. Not yet

No he literally said "You can't use it yet Samurai Jack. Not yet" but all that means is that the guardian had to stop him from using it then not that Jack would have to fight him to use it in the future.

>>92368377
Even if you're right, you're a tiny minority.
Face it, this new season is wildly popular amongst the normies, and unlike you NEETs they actually have money.

So, I assume the Scotsman and his army is going to fight Aku, and maybe the guys we saw in da samurai's bar.
What help are they going to be?
Couldn't Aku just wipe them out easily too?
Couldn't Aku just kill everybody if he wanted to?
Couldn't Aku just destroy the earth if he wanted to?
What challenges Aku?

>>92368423
i know they're non-canon but the comics are a decent way to get an idea

>>92368447
they're entirely irrelevant

>>92368446

Their sudden attack will force Aku to drop the sword. He will be to busy gloating to notice them coming

>>92368377
>This is rationalizing bad writing
How? It was never set in stone that Jack was gonna use his portal to go back to the past.

>>92368447
Genndy didn't write the comics ya dimwit.

>>92368440
I actually like the new season. The guardian plot element was just poorly handled. It's possible for a good show to have flaws.

/co/ at large will never, ever admit this, though.

>>92368297
lmao no way that's happening. It makes absolutely no sense from a writers perspective, especially from what we have already seen this season.

What's probably going to happen:
>army consisting of all of jack's past allies led by scotsman's daughters rushes in to Rescue jack
>Ashi is sent to fight the army in Aku's place
this is where 1 of 3 things will probably happen
A)
>Ashi gains control of herself and tries to free jack and give him back the sword, but aku mortally wounds him before he can do anything, so Ashi uses the sword to defeat Aku. Jack dies
B)
>Ashi regains control of herself and tries to free jack, but is mortally wounded by Aku. Jack uses the sword to slay Aku once and for all. Ashi dies.
C)
>Jack is freed somehow, regains the sword, and is forced to kill Ashi (or maybe he accidentally kills her) then defeats Aku.
Or maybe they'll pull something like "Ashi regains control, frees jack, they both defeat Aku with the help of the army. It's bitter because Jack can't go back to the past, but they still all live happily ever after. Jack becomes king of the new world"

I know 100% it will involve an army of some kind led by the Scotsman or his daughters. They already established it early on in the season, so they won't just throw it away.

>>92368474
I hope the retards whining about Ashi feel stupid now, this was a great twist.

>>92368466
The authors deliberately wrote an episode that included a plot element that was unequivocally going to be relevant to the conclusion of the story.

"it was never set in stone" is not an argument. It didn't have to be set in stone. Ignoring the fact that they ever wrote it is what makes it bad writing.

How was the Guardian hyped up? He was clearly a one-shot character invented at a point where they believed they would never actually have to write a finale.

And even if he wasn't how fucking boring would it be to see the series end on something you can see coming?

>>92368501
The only thing this "twist" fixes is her punching out an army. It does nothing for all the other shit her inclusion in the story caused.

>>92368501
>this was a great twist.

>hero meets girl near end of story, falls in love
>girl is used against him in the final confrontation
>hero must choose between girl and completing his quest

Ehhh, not exactly an original twist. But I'm looking forward to seeing how they handle it.

>>92368505

They aren't ignoring it. Why do you think the final battle is in front of that portal? For shit and gigs?

If you Guaridanfags were so sure he was gonna be related to the ending why did you even bother watching all the episodes after he appeared? Since you seem to really believe Jack would never get back to the past without him anyway

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>>92368421

now it's obvious one of the mods is a guardianfag that really thinks he's gonna come back in ep10.

>>92368524
Like what faggot? Helping Jack out?

>>92368520
Because people kept hyping themselves up on something that was never promised, only to complain when said thing that was never guaranteed doesn't happen.

>>92368541
Johnny-come-latelys who didn't watch the series as it was coming out, but rather went through it all at once after Season 5 was announced

>>92368536
We don't know if the next episode will involve him or not.

If it doesn't involve him, and the "broken pair of shades" is the entire resolution to that arc, then everything said about the poor writing is true.

If he appears next episode, there are a myriad of possibilities for redemption. But for now, I remain skeptical. Genndy has already retconned plot points in the new season because of his bad memory.

>Guardian just predicted Jack would use that portal in the future
>Never specified that he would still be alive to fight him.
>The portal is activated at the time it was fortold for some other reason, the Guardian wasn't literally keeping Jack out but he knew Jack would return after his death when the time was right

Would that make you happy?

A S H I
S
H
I

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>>92366133
>once these people see that I was correct and NOT THEM I will post about it and
>THEY WILL READ AND CARE ABOUT HOW CORRECT I WAS

I'm fine with the Guardian being resolved like this but King Jack still needs to happen otherwise we do have a plot-hole.

>>92368367
I think people got the impression Guardian was magic himself

He was apparently unbeatable, didn't appear to age and was slated to be there even when jack got old. The portal wasn't just a portal it was some living entity that talked to him and possibly the reason why he never lost.

Of course that doesn't mean he can/should beat Aku. Hell if that was the case destroying the portal probably depowered him.

>>92368574
>We don't know if the next episode will involve him or not.

It wont because he's fucking dead. He doesn't need to be alive for Jack to use that portal. LE EPIC REMATCH was never destined. Only that Jack would use the portal

>>92368599
>was slated to be there even when jack got old
NO HE WASN'T

THE GUARDIAN ISN'T IN THE FUCKING VISION

>>92368541
guardianfags BTFO

>>92368598

King Jack is going to happen. Gennedy isn't ignoring anything or the fight wouldn't be at the Guardians battle ground at all

I don't care about The Guardian. I'm a KingJackfag

>>92368560
No man, I'm not doing the work for you. Go and find the various old /co/ threads yourself.

Or just figure it out on your own, it's not that hard.

>>92368649
a BTFO guardianfag as far as I can tell

>>92368604
>LE EPIC REMATCH was never destined
>maybe if I keep saying this nobody will notice I'm a retard

Fans who wanted the guardian plot to be relevant did not all want a fight scene. We wanted consistent writing. We got neither.

>>92368634
nice one faggot

is there a mega?
pls gibe me a mega

>>92368660

I keep saying it because it's the truth. How can you sit there and say the guardian plot wont be relevant when the final battle is literally at his battle ground. How retarded are you?

>>92368703
Because Genndy has already retconned plenty in the new season. He has set the bar for consistency very low. I will keep my expectations similarly low until shown otherwise.

And I like the new season. I just don't like poorly handled plot elements.

>>92368176
Fuck off. We know literally nothing about how Aku knows about how to find time portals. As far as we know, he could've missed one somehow because he wasn't aware of it.

Granted, the Guardian does have the bodies of a ton of dead warriors and shit surrounding his time portal, so that was never going to go unnoticed anyway.

>>92368703
Seriously they could have just ignored it with the 'I destroyed every portal' line but they made it a point to have Jack's most dramatic showdown (fighting his own qtgf) there too.

>>92368740
>Because Genndy has already retconned plenty in the new season

Such as?

>>92368649
you know how many Jack threads there are right now?

>>92368677
https://mega.nz/#!1rAGWagT!ATz1T3LWYH7Jzox0xRCMZxl-PcMVonFKAbjq0F-50Zo

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>>92368415
>Ashi takes control of the posession and now has Aku powers
Might be cool

>>92365711
>Give me one good reason to watch it.

I don't give a fuck if you watch it, random nobody.

But you will, despite your hissy fit right now

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>>92368750

>we've never killed a human before

No matter what Genndy or anyone says, this is the biggest lie ever told in the show.

I actually liked the "Jack has to deal with killing real humans for the first time" aspect of the new season. But I will not pretend like it was actually the first time Jack was depicted as killing a non-robot. I'm not capable of that level of cognitive dissonance.

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>>92368023
No one promised a rematch with the Guardian. Not anyone making the show or characters therein.

They repeated many times that all the time portals have been destroyed. The shattered glasses only confirm what we already knew.

Make some tea and calm yourself until next week.

>>92368839
tis but a scratch

>>92365530
>Episode releases
>HURR FUCKING DROPPED BECUZ I DON'T LIKE A THING
>Watch next episode anyway

>>92368839
I literally don't understand why anyone thought they were dead.

>>92368173
Wrong. Watch the episode again. All he says is
>You can't use it yet, Samurai Jack. Not yet.

It was never said that he'd meet the Guardian again. Stop memeing this.

>>92368846
>>92368887

You know he thinks you're the same guy , right?

>>92368386
Fffffuuuuccckkkk...
>"You can go back now."
>"Ashi I couldn't."
>"Isn't this what you want? You can finally go back."
>"What about you? What will happen to you?"
>"I'll be fine Jack. I'll never forget you."
>*Pushes Jack into the portal*

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>>92368766
YES

>>92368902
Then she needs to bring back best boy Scaramouche again. At this point he's like the Kenny McKormic of Samurai Jack Park

>Oh my god, they killed Scaramouche!
>YES, SAMURAI, I AM SUCH A BASTARD

>>92368866
Are you literally Zoidberg?

>Fry, it's been years since medical school, so remind me. Disemboweling in your species, fatal or non-fatal?
>Fatal
>Large bet on myself in round one!

Slicing through someone with a sword is typically bad for one's health, anon.

Also covering someone's body with explosives has been known to cause heap big death in humans.

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>>92366694
Sounds great. You should be a writer. Really.

>>92368927
If the explosives left the guy's body 100% intact it's kind of difficult to imagine him dying from them, though not impossible I guess.
We also only saw Jack slicing AT, not THROUGH.

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>>92365530
Episodes 1-3 were easily the best in the series, and it could have been so much more if Gennedy didn't self-insert his childhood fantasies into the show

>Jack falls off the branch after executing Aishi, near death with the dead assassin next to him
>Scotsman's daughters find him and nurse him back to health with the Scotsman sitting next to his bed waiting for him to return
>Realize just how much of a hollow shell Jack has become and is heart-broken at the thought of his closest friend falling so far

>>92368971
You don't have to slice clean through someone to disembowel them, Anon.

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>they watch samurai jack for plot
>not for aesthetics

>>92368975
I was expecting some sort of falling out between Jack and Scotsman since Jack had been absent for so long, followed by Jack getting the sword back and redeeming himself in the Scotman's eyes.

>>92368993
But the point is we don't know how much (if any) lasting damage the sword did.

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>>92365530

>>92365530
I stopped watching it 3 episodes ago. Zero interest in seeing how it ends.

>>92369007
Given that the aesthetics of this season haven't fared much better than the plot in the view of anyone with actual taste, I'm not sure that's an argument you really want to be making.

>>92369018

Of course we don't know for sure. Jack doesn't stick around to check his victims' pulses after the fact.

It is not a stretch of the imagination, in any way, to say Jack killed them and left them in the snow to rot. Jack had no established "I don't kill humans" policy in the original show. There was no reason to assume they were still alive other than "it's a kid's show, I guess they're alive still even though they gave us no reason to think they should be", which is meta-logic, and not sound in-world logic.

>>92368975
Shut the fuck up with this, we needed the buildup for Episode 9 to be effective.

>>92369035
>in the view of anyone with actual taste
I'm sure you only enjoy the finest of cartoons, anon.

>>92368225
Not even The Guardian but just the shitty prophecy
I wonder if he also had an autisic meltdown about no King Jack when Aku destroyed the portal and killed him.

>>92369050
It's a stretch of the imagination to assume they WERE killed because: (1) Jack seems like the type to avoid it unless strictly necessary and (2) the rest of the show was built around robot destruction, and there was no discussion of any change to that in-universe (like there is in the new season), which is not "meta-logic" BTW.

>>92369060
>waste one episode walking around a giant beast's organs, another one in a grassy field and another one with the blue creature things just to estabilish that Ashi now agrees with Jack even though that happens halfway through the first episode
>waste another episode with throwbacks that add nothing to the plot
>waste one more episode with spaghetti shit just to estabilish now that Jack and Ashi like each other
>only to have the second-to-last episode pull a fast-one on their relationship and rush everything out on the next episode

>>92369062
Why I do indeed, Steven Universe for example is much better aesthetically and writing wise than this mess of a season, though I suppose your taste isn't good enough to understand that.

>>92369113
None of this is wasted, faggot, it IS the plot.

>>92365530
k bye

>>92369062
I actually do. It's why I can't even stand ATLA now.
Teen Titans all the way.
>>92369117
You can only dream of being as fabulous as me.

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>>92369105
>Jack seems like the type to avoid it unless strictly necessary

This is purely subjective and is your opinion. Jack had absolutely no established "no killing unless absolutely necessary" policy in the original show. It was implied that human death did not occur regularly because of the young audience the show catered to. Not because of any in-world reasoning.

> the rest of the show was built around robot destruction, and there was no discussion of any change to that in-universe

See the previous point. It absolutely is meta-logic. It is not a stretch of the imagination to say Jack killed those bounty hunters. We were given no reason to believe they were still alive other than the meta-rationale that robot violence is okay but human violence is bad because kid's show.

Jack never explicitly abstained from hurting humans for ethical reasons. He literally killed the rock golem warrior because the guy asked him to. That was literally Jack killing a human, unequivocally, inarguably.

>>92369140
>Teen Titans all the way

Okay I was baiting with the SU thing and I wasn't even trying but holy shit you're a natural

The scene where Jack chews the food reminded me of Professor Utonium chewing the pea in PPG. I wonder if it was intentional.

>>92369060
>we needed Ashi so that the buildup for Ashi would be dramatic

What's your point? If we didn't have Ashi, we could have had a different buildup. The whole "love interest is targeted by the main villain" angle is so tired.

>>92366355
>You are correct in that I in fact have Asperger's syndrome, but I don't see what that has to do with my thread.

It has everything to do with why you made the thread

>>92369185
>we could have had a different buildup.
Like what?

>>92369031
>I stopped watching it 3 episodes ago. Zero interest in seeing how it ends.
I stopped after the one where he gets the sword back. Nothing I've seen posted here on the board made me feel I missed out.

>>92369151
Jack is a guy guided by a strict moral code that says he MUST save lives at THAT moment even at the cost of not saving far more lives in the "future", and even if the risks to said lives are ridiculously low. You're seriously telling me he's not going to try to avoid killing if at all possible?

And I don't think you understood my second point. I meant that in the new season, when Jack kills one of the Daughters it's a shock to him, and it's actually brought up as a major plot point. Nothing like that happens in that episode.

>>92365530
So Aku destroyed the last time portal and then Jack immediately lost his sword and Aku didn't checked in with him for 50 years, the whole time Jack was sans sword and completely vulnerable. Aku then receives word that Jack has lost his sword 50 years too late, right after jack got it back.

Wouldn't it have made more sense for Jack and him to have had many more skirmishes after the last portal was destroyed. Tiring Aku out and making it all feel futile.

I guess it's possible that he just hears reports of Jack still being around and that's what depresses him.

But then there's the continuity error of him knowing or at least complaining about Jacks stupid new beard. That implies he's at least been watching Jack and how could he do that without noticing he didn't have his sword?

Basically Aku decided to not attack Jack during the years long span that he didn't have the sword.

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>There are people on /co/ that actually thought Jack was ever going to make it back to the past

>>92369185
> The whole "love interest is targeted by the main villain" angle is so tired.

Good vs evil isn't?

>>92369151
>bringing up the Lava Monster as an example of Jack killing
You guys are REALLY desperate, aren't you? Or are you purposely trolling?

I want to say that i watched the guardian episode today to be sharp for it, and during the original episode, it is never actually confirmed jack would USE the damn portal.

What we see is the portal, which seens to be sentient, stopping the guardian from killing jack becaus ehe will br important in the future. The guardian says that he isnt the one yet, but what he knows?

It makes sense, although anticlimatic, for aku be the one the prophecy. The portal just showed jack because jacks fate is far more important than a single portal or prophecy, and couldnt die there.

So yeah, call the guardian resolution anticlimatic, but it isnt a fucking plot hole.

>>92369249
It was Jack not aging that drove Aku to depression. He just realized this would go on forever. And Aku KNOWS that with the sword Jack will always win, so he just stopped trying.

>>92369263
Are you saying Jack didn't literally kill a human when he killed the Lava monster?

>>92369230
>Jack is a guy guided by a strict moral code that says he MUST save lives at THAT moment even at the cost of not saving far more lives in the "future", and even if the risks to said lives are ridiculously low

Wrong. Jack is guided by a moral code that says he should try to save as many INNOCENT lives as he can. Murderers and bounty hunters are not protected by his samurai creed in the slightest. We see bounty hunters constantly being flung into situations where they should, by all accounts, be dead after interacting with Jack. And it's perfectly reasonable to assume they are, because there is no in-world reason to say they are not.

>>92365882
>WRITE WRITE WRITE

>>92369289
>Are you saying Jack didn't literally kill a human when he killed the Lava monster?
The morality of that action is completely different.
And once again you didn't address my other point.

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>>92369230
Adding on to
>>92369230
These two jackoff bounty hunters rammed their giant motorized unicycles into one another, resulting in an explosion, and then plummeted thousands of feet (if they survived the explosion).

No in-world reason to assume Jack saved them; they died offscreen.

>>92369251
To save the shitty lands that sucks ass

>>92369249
Aku is a dumb lazy asshole.
He didn't know Jack had the sword back as he was clearly holding it.
Maybe he just never realized all this time Jack wasn't using his sword.

>>92369312
The morality was not my point, so you did not address mine. Jack has killed humans before. If you think I had another point, you misunderstood and responded inappropriately.

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Anyone got a mega to the rest of the season?

>Ashi dies
>All the ship fags hang themselves

>>92369322
You mean the same "thousands of feet" that Jack and the Scotsman "plummeted" when the bridge finally broke?

>>92369329
http://kametsu.com/topic/57530-samurai-jack-season-5-1080p/

>>92365530
plenty of things to complain about with this season, I don't think that's the worst.

>>92369335
I didn't realize generic bounty hunters were on par with Jack and Scotsman.

I wonder why those super powerful bounty hunters didn't kill Jack and Scotsman.

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>>92369343
Thank you, kind anon

>>92368887
except the whole point of the guardian was "only one man has been prophesied to defeat me." jack has to come back and defeat the guardian to fulfill the prophecy and use the portal.

>>92369354
I didn't realize training, or even superstrength, gave the ability to survive massive falls, in a world where they actually affect anyone anyways.

>>92369369
The one person wasn't Jack though.

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>its another ''WAAAAAH MY HEADCANON DIDNT COME TRUE REEEE'' thread
genndy only said the guardian would be adressed, its your own fault if you thought it was gonna be some final battle, it has been said the entire series that all time portals where destroyed

>>92366120
this.

>>92366147
a vision is just a vision
nothing is set in stone

>portal destroyed
>Guardian has nothing left to guard
>appears at the end of last episode chilling out with Demongo at Da Samoorai's tavern without his sunglasses

>>92369376
>I didn't realize training, or even superstrength, gave the ability to survive massive falls, in a world where they actually affect anyone anyways.

>training one's body to handle extreme conditions doesn't give you the ability to survive things that would kill unconditioned people

Jesus Christ anon. That physically pained me to read. Just... holy hell, stop, please.

>>92366173
The thing hasnt even ended yet
you are all sperging because you overblew your headcanon
no different than tumblr

>>92365530
Good. Fuck that shitty power level "character".

>>92369279
>It was Jack not aging that drove Aku to depression
Ok, I can see how Jack being effectively immortal (not again) and invincible (sword) would depress Aku but why didn't he battle jack again after destroying the last portal?

If he had, Jack wouldn't have had the sword and Aku would've killed him.

Or maybe Aku didn't go and see jack personally but was simply watching him from his lair. But he would've noticed Jack didn't have the sword and killed him.

I don't see how he knows Jack isn't aging and grew a beard but doesn't know he lost the sword.

>>92369401
"The future isn't set in stone" is the be-all, end-all lamest imaginable cop-out for the set-up the Guardian episode originally did. The textbook definition of wasted potential.

If you're fine with that, so be it. But don't pretend like fans who wanted that plot element resolved have no axe to grind; it's a genuine grievance with inconsistent writing and failure to commit to a plot element that was deliberately established early on.

>>92369441
>the set up the guardian episode did
>5 second flash of King Jack
>nothing leading to a fight
>nothing about going back to the past
you overhyped 5 seconds that where at most placeholder ending

>>92365530
>I bet he doesn't even get back to the past.

I see no problem if done well.

>>92365711
>I thought this shit was well hidden Aku didn't know about it

Well that's your fault for thinking Aku wouldn't know despite having eyes everywhere. Also, wanting a hypothetical situation/headcanon to be real and to become angry solely because the creators took another route is retarded.

>jack makes it back to the past and kills aku
>all the lessons he has learned, his memories of the future, friends, the valiant and heroic acts, ashi.....fade

>>92367552
No, it needed more Yes, daddy~

If he's going to corrupt her mind, might as well really rub it in Jack's face.

>>92368579
Honestly, I think most people just want more of a resolution than a pair of broken glasses. Obviously, some of the posters here are upset that it doesn't seem to be playing out like they wanted, but again, I really think most people would be happy if we just got SOMETHING more out of the episode.

No idea why they couldn't just run a flashback parallel to the other events that occurred in this episode. Not episode 1 levels of flashbacks. But some glances here and there that shows the Guardian fighting. Gets more battered down and worn out by every glance. The time span could imply anything from 15 minutes to 15 years. Stop with the glances when things are looking fairly critical for the Guardian, and after a couple of minutes the scene where the camera pans to glasses happens.

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>>92365530
Jack lets Ashi kill him

Ashi redeems herself by killing Aku

The End.

Calling it now.

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>>92365530

>>92369726
That would suck more than power of love bullshit freeing her.

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>>92365530
As someone who hates episode 8 and Jashi in general, I thought this episode was the best since episode 3, although I don't really want Jack to be a depressed fuck by the end of the series.

>>92365530
Lol k bye

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You told me Jack would beat the Guardian instead of him dying pointlessly offscreen

You told me he would get back to the past

You told me Ashi wouldn't be a pivotal factor in defeating Aku

You told me Ashi's mother had some greater connection with Aku other than just drinking his tree sap and pumping out a bunch of useless kids, only for most of them to die and in Ashi's mom's case in a very unsatisfactory resolution.

You told me this was kino.

You told me John F Gennedy isn't a jew hack manlet like Hirsch.

>>92365660
>>92365711
>>92365763

>they haven't figured out why and how the Guardian was immortal

the Guardian IS the portal. Aku treated him like a nuisance and just tossed him away or some shit and destroyed the portal manifestation. The Guardian himself can reconjure the portal at will.

>>92365530
bye.

>>92365530
see you next week

>>92365530
>I bet he doesn't even get back to the past.
We knew he wouldn't since day one.

>>92365920
>forgotten some of the best aspects of the original show
No, the show largely keeps the slow, pensive scene-setting punctuated by brief flurries of action.

>>92370732
>You told me this was kino.
To be fair, episodes two and three practically *define* kino.

>>92365530
Im not gonna drop the series, its just one episode left.

However, I do agree with your sentiments and this has been a pretty underwhelming experience even though I saw the guardian's death coming a while away. Literally monkey's paw scenario after the first 3 episodes.

>>92365616
Ah I remember that thread.

So much delusion, despite everyone else saying that the guardian was RIP.
I wonder if half of those people that were expecting him to come back dropped the show mid episode moment they showed his broken glasses and destroyed portal.

>Everyone hyped themselves over the guardian
>Convincing eachother that one good episode literally not mentioned at all in any other part of season four would become the focal point of the entire series
>In a series that was explicitly episodic and dropped shit all the time

HURRR WHY DIDN'T JACK JUST JUMP GOOD TO KILL AKU THIS FIGHT? JUMP GOOD WAS AN ENTIRE EPISODE. JUMP GOOD ENDED ON A CLIFFHANGER AND IT WASN'T EVEN RESOLVED. FUCKING DROPPED.

That's how you fucking sound right now. The guardian coming back and fighting jack wasn't going to be le ebin action fight, it would've been a complete tonal departure from the rest of the season. The guardian would've added absolutely NOTHING to the story of jack's loss or development as a character except a fucking pointless macguffin that the end of the story would either have to write around or destroy - making it absolutely useless in the first place. Yeah, it would've been cool. Scotsman with a mech would've been cool. Da Samoorai saving jack would've been cool. A lot of shit would've been cool. Stop being a shitbaby because the cool epic scene you wanted wasn't shoved in for five minutes of pointless action.

>b-b-b-buh ashi is bad, we could've replaced ashi scenes with those things!!

Fuck off. The entire point of ashi was so the twist in this episode could happen. Ashi is the literal one thing giving real consequence to jack's final actions now, you retard. Her being there adds an actual choice between Jack choosing to stay in the future and abandon his family or going back to kill Aku (and erase Ashi and the rest of the world as he knows it) in the past.

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>Jack can't stab Ashi
>ghost Scotsman does it for him
>they beat Aku together
Best scenario

M*n this show started so damn groundbreaking, a flagship of progressive subversion of rules, a m*n showed weakeness and vulnerability, a queer antagonist, genuinely strong female characters... It was a critique of toxic masculinity too.
But now the thing has fully devolved to gender-normative cishet-pandering m*le wish-fullfilment fantasy bullshit.

>>92371158
>In a series that was explicitly episodic and dropped shit all the time
Incorrect.
Season 4 was episodic for obvious reasons.

Season 5 was purely plot driven

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>>92371539
Yes. Expecting season 5 (which has a set theme and plot) to cater to a single episode of season 4 (which is episodic and probably wasn't even intended to relate to a real ending) is fucking dumb.

>>92371591
How.....?

>>92365530
Why are people still expecting Jack to go back to the past when there are no time portals left, not even the Guardian's?

What's the point of dropping a show with one episode left?

Help me I just want to understand

>>92371622
Because that episode wasn't written for that purpose and it wouldn't have fit the theme for season five? How does the guardian and his time portal add anything to the plot except for five minutes of cool filler action? There's only two things you can do with him coming back.

>Write the entire ending of season 5 around his time portal and the guardian, completely throwing out the tone of the entire season
OR
>Destroying his portal at the last second, basically making the entire episode a filler segment before Aku.

It's nothing. You can't expect season five to literally revolve around one episode because we hyped it up in threads

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Not falling for the contrarian meme, I am loving this show and it looks like it's going to finish strong. Jack has 4 full seasons of episodes with just him. 4 full seasons. 7 episodes with Ashi isn't going to kill you. So The Guardian fight didn't happen, would have been cool but we already had a trip down nostalgia lane episode and it was one of the most unpopular episodes of the season. He was around for one episode. The series finishing on Jack beating The Guardian, a literal one off baddie of the week, then walking through a portal and going home is a weak ending.

He had his fight with The Guardian and it was cool, let it be. As it stands The Guardian went out stronger than Jack, so even if you really liked him know that he still probably would have wooped Jack's ass in a rematch.

>>92368292
>The Guardian is/was an avatar of Vishnu

Calling it.

Instead of the first half of the episode 9 they should of have a flash back of the guardian fighting aku's minions, then aku himself came out for another great battle with aku. Then reflect it with a fuck yon of aku's bot everywhere with all the failed heroes that tried.

>>92371688
But how does that make it dumb? OR how does season 4 being episodic nullify anything that occurs in S5???
Seriously, you sound like a fucking idiot that has no idea what he's talking about.

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>>92365530

Guise, this is a troll.

Not that it will prevent you from responding until thread goes 404.

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>Aku has the power to create portals to fling Jack into the future
>Aku presumably has the power to create portals to fling Jack into the past
>Ashi is Aku
>They're at the place where the Guardian said Jack would travel to the past
HMMMMMMMMMMM

>>92371764
>How does that make it dumb?
Adding things that don't fit the theme of a season because you want to make a reference to a single one-off episode is bad storytelling and therefore 'dumb'

>how does season 4 being episodic nullify anything that occurs in S5???
Do you know how to read? That's the opposite of what I said. S5 is free to nullify any bullshit that S4 did BECAUSE it was episodic. Jack learned how to fucking jump 80 feet into the air in one episode and it ended with him about to get into a time portal. Where's the mention of that? Why didn't jack jump 80 feet into the air this episode? You're an idiot.

I'm only now watching episode 7.
episode 6 was a real low even counting the entire previous season.