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Perfect in all forms Edition

>Upcoming Releases:
http://www.swbooks.net/updates/release-2017.htm

>Out this Week:
The Classic Newspaper Comics Vol. 1 (May 9th)
Screaming Citadel #1 (May 10th)

>Star Wars: The Last Jedi trailer
https://youtu.be/zB4I68XVPzQ

>Star Wars: Rebels - The Final Season
https://youtu.be/-b7GAhnVwhA

>Battlefront 2 trailer:
https://youtu.be/Kae-JjbLsgA

>Download links: (Check here for new Rebels Episodes + Books, Comics, Films, etc)
http://pastebin.com/nWsKtSya

>Canon Guide:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1t1KovH_1GYLDTAe3yrleeWiuzwulm670o_anQqr5Rcg/pubhtml

>Legends Recommendation List:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/147N5EgCnZmcPaDYvnGQwl9cn7BhBroFb7mD2C4cmWb0/edit?usp=sharing
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What is she, /swco/?
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*blows up jedi temple*

*dies in prison*
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>not George Lucas edition

you had one job
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>>92352650
We can do it next thread, no biggie
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>>92352555
Well that's different
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Since we evacuated, reposting from last thread
Rank star wars movie scores.
For me it's:
3>2>1>4>R1>5>>>*not memorable*>7>6
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>>92352664
By time we get a new thread it'll probably be the 15th

I mean, I guess we can do "Belated birthday"
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>>92352555
You were supposed to have a job, not make fancy graphics for your shitposts.
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>>92352681
5 = 6 > 4 > R1 > 1 = 3 > 2 >>> 7

I would've put Jedi first, but 'Clash of the Lightsabers' remains my go-to Star Wars track.
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>>92352681
6 has Victory Celebration and the Throne Room music, how is that not memorable?
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>>92352681
>prequel trilogy above everything
>Return of the Jedi dead last
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>>92352681
>battle of endor
>not memorable
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>>92352798 disregard this post, I missed the "scores" and thought anon was talking about movies.
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>>92352541
Who/what are you hoping to see in Battlefront 2?

For me:
>DC15A
>DC17
>Phase I Rex and Cody
>Ahsoka
>Republic Fighter Tank
>AAT
>Fully Controllable Capital ships
>A280(The Episode VI AR15 one, not the STG44 one)
>The AR15 blaster from Rogue one (In all forms)
>Jyn
>Controllable Y-wings and B-wings
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>>92352838
Hold on, i'm an illiterate mong
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>>92352834
I wanna play a commando droid
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>>92352681
ROTS>>>TESB>TPM=ANH>ROTJ>AOTC>R1>TFA
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>>92352681
As an impfag I can't go past ESB. The Imperial March motif is one of my favourite parts of the film.

5>3>R1>4>1>6>2>7
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>>92352541
Are they actually mentioned Barriss anywhere since the new canon? Maybe some obsure quote from Pablo?

I find it funny how a well known, moderately powerful Jedi was given the perfect "Survive Order 66" excuse but hasn't been seen to have used it. Are they still figuring out what they're going to do with her, or have they just scrapped her entirely. Imo, she would've been excellent as the High Inquisitor, but that boat has long sailed.
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>>92352681
4=5=6>1=2=3>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>power gap>>>>>>>>>>>R1>>>>>>>>>>>>>rap "music">>>>>>>>>>7
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>>92352555
Goddammit
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>>92352971
Filoni did mention that she apparently wasn't executed and that he did have plans for her beyond her last appearance in TCW, though he hasn't elaborated
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>>92352971
She's snoke
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>>92353019
I just love this score so much. I don't care what people say.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDvoYj2eVEw
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I remember someone saying that if Shakespeare were alive in the 21st century and wrote space fantasy movies, Revenge of the Sith would have been the movie he'd write. How accurate is that?
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>>92353138
>B
>A
>R
>R
>I
>S
>S N O K E

The math checks out
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>>92352681

1>3>6>5>4>2>R1>TCW movie>7
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>>92353155
Michael Giachino is a great composer (medal of honor and The Incredibles are fantastic) but his scoring for R1 made him sound more like a composter, it was utter crap, barely better than TFA.
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>>92353158

I don't know about that, but I do know about this: http://www.ferdyonfilms.com/2015/star-wars-episode-one-the-phantom-menace-1999-episode-two-attack-of-the-clones-2002-episode-three-revenge-of-the-sith-2005/26568/
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>>92353256
I'm not reading that crap, summarize it in one word.
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>>92353315

Poetry.
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>>92346881
>>92347040
>>92348315

You all deserve to die of testicular cancer or aids you pablo cock sucking faggots
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>>92353158
Very accurate I'd say.

Revenge of the Sith is a work of fucking art.
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>>92353211
I.. I still don't care... It's... It's still a g- great score to me
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>>92353360
Stay salty, reddit

https://www.reddit.com/r/starwarsspeculation/comments/5b7es6/whoever_wants_pablo_hidalgo_fired_hi/

https://www.reddit.com/r/starwarsspeculation/comments/51278j/why_pablo_hidalgo_needs_to_leave_the_storygroup/
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>>92353360
I wouldn't go that far, but I wonder why this general goes with whatever Pablo says.
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>>92353360
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>>92353493
>I wonder why fans of Star wars trust the word of someone who is part of the group in charge of canon and is a master of banter

Hmmmm I wonder why
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>>92353493
He's funny and knows his shit.
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>>92353493

Because he's in a position to know literally everything about the new canon.
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>>92353575
>>92353536
>>92353551
I meant more on his personal opinions on things, not lore questions.
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>>92353493
>I wonder why this general goes with whatever Pablo says.
Well.. he is responsible for what's canon and what's not. It's quite literally his job.
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>>92353602
/swco/ tends to be pretty pro nucanon and anti-EU, so a lot of Pablo's mockery of the some of the more ridiculous EU stuff (as well as his tendency to mock the buttmad EU billboard crowd) has endeared him to this general
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>>92353493
He's /ourguy/, hating Pablo is literally re.ddit.

They just get buttmad because he shits on KOTOR and Gray Jedi
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>>92353700
But he likes KOTOR
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>>92353734
Yeah, it's less about shitting on KOTOR itself and more about shitting on autistic KOTOR fanboys.
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>>92352681
Empire, New Hope, Awakens, Revenge, Return, Phantom Menace, Attack of the Clones.
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>>92353602
We just agree with a lot of his opinions.

>>92353692
Pro-Canon, but not Anti-Legends.

Mocking the ridiculous shit doesn't mean we are against Legends.

A lot of the time, Pablo's criticism of the EU (which he loved), if often based in facts. Like how Gray Jedi don't make sense nor fit in the franchise..

>>92353734
My bad.

More accurately would be that he shits on KOTOR fans, but mostly because they can be obnoxious assholes who think they know better than him and Lucas.
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>>92353773
This made me realize what was bugging me about the FO helmet- the eyes are really big.
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>>92353762
I can understand that.
I have a friend who's such a giant Revanfag and goes on about how all the Old Republic shit was sooo much better, and how Revan can literally do anything, its plain annoying.
The hilarious irony is he then shits on the EU portrayal of Luke as OP while he sucks Revan's mary sue cock.
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>>92352681
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>>92353854
Yeah, it gives them a slightly comical look. What's funny is that the lenses themselves aren't that big, they're about the same size as the OT stormtroopers, but the FO troops have this thick black line around the lenses that makes them look bigger.
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>>92353779
>Gray Jedi don't make sense nor fit in the franchise
Why tho?
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>>92353986
You can't be a Jedi that doesn't follow the Jedi Code and/or uses the dark side while still calling yourself a Jedi.
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>mfw 4 is my favourite movie because it's max comfy
>followed by RO because I liked it
>the rest are kind of just there to me

I guess I'm not a real fan because my favourite movies are the ones I like
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>>92354068
Did you ever consider they're being spiteful factors who just want to use the Jedi name?
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>>92353986
There's certain rules to being a Jedi. If your whole thing is that you don't obey any of the rules or actively go against them (such as using dark side abilities), you're not really a Jedi. It's a bit like saying you're a meat-eating vegetarian, it doesn't work that way.
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Pablo just can't be stopped
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>>92354096
Okay, but that still doesn't make them Jedi
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>>92353986
For two reasons;

1) The "I'm a Jedi but I don't have to follow the rules and can even dabble in the dark side" is a contradiction of what it even means to be a Jedi. See pic related.

2) Applying the term to non-Jedi makes no sense. Just because someone is a force user, but isn't evil, doesn't mean they get to be called Jedi. It would be like calling any religious practicing person a "Gray Priest."

Groups can have their own names, such as the Dagoyans, or the Nightsisters.

If the force user is not in a group, then they will just be a "force wielder", or go by their own title. (I AM THE BENDU, THE ONE IN THE MIDDLE.)

The main point is that calling someone who does anti-Jedi things a Jedi is an oxymoron.

Also thematically, it doesn't really make sense. It's a sensitive position where a good person is using the dark side. The dark side is inherently bad, corruptible, metaphorical for greed, and hate.

This can't go down without consequences (See: Vos), or being truly in the middle morally, an asshole like Bendu.

This is why there can not be "Gray Jedi". It's an oxymoron, that contradicts the foundations of the lore of the franchise.

It basically stems from the Vidya where they needed an excuse to have characters who could use all aspects of the force we see in the movies, becuz vidya.
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What Happened to Alien Mandalorians?
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>>92353955
That's pretty much me until the third act of TFA. By which point I'm constantly making the 'whaaa?' face as my immersion and suspension of disbelief is shattered, in a FANTASY UNIVERSE of all things, and begin to question the entire movie.
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>>92353986
The Force has a light side and a dark side, but no dork side for a third orientation.
There are neither White Jedi nor Black Jedi, so the phrase Gray Jedi has no foundation.
>But they reside between the light and dark, anon.
Then they're Rangers, so ship their asses back to the Minbari.
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>>92354196
>W-why did she b-beat him?? N-not possible!!
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>>92354188
Non-canon.

Mandalorians (surprise, surprise) are from Mandalore. Which are all human.

In very, VERY rare cases, Mandalorians may welcome Clans from Mandalorian-conquered worlds into official Mandalorians houses. That's what happened with the Wren Clan, making them Honorary Mandalorians, despite not being of heritage. (TCW makes it clear that most pure Mandalorians are not okay with this, causing a civil war when Maul takes over)

There are no examples of any aliens (beyond Maul) being welcomed as official Mandalorians.
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>>92354221
It had more to do with Starkiller than anything else.
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>>92354096
>I want to be called a Christian except I don't believe or follow in any of the teachings of the Bible
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>>92354188
They weren't a part of the aryan brotherhood
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>>92354188
>>92354262
twitter.com/missingwords/status/847172960775315456
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>>92354314
Based Matt Martin
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>>92353986

Basically, the dark side is addicting. It's very hard to pull back from once you start. It's not impossible, mind you, but it's the sort of thing where effectively nobody is going to be able to use the dark side more than a few times without it corrupting them.

This is because of the relationship between the Living and Cosmic Force. Your emotions, your energy, your anger and hatred, go out into the Living Force that you generate. The Living Force feeds into the Cosmic Force, though, so the corrupting influence you put out spreads and changes in nature before being fed back to you through the midichlorians, corrupting you further. It creates a feedback loop that eventually twists your body and mind into a monster like the Emperor. (Okay, this whole paragraph is actually my own theory, but I think it squares well with everything we learned in the season 6 TCW Yoda arc).

Now, there's another type of gray Jedi, which is a Jedi that doesn't use the dark side but has some kind of beef with the Jedi Order and doesn't follow the Council's rules. But if you're not part of the Order, you're not a Jedi at all; you're something else. If you ARE part of the Order, like Qui-Gon, you aren't really gray: you're still fully light, you're just a maverick when it comes to the internal politics of the Jedi.

So the idea of a "gray Jedi" is really just a result of fundamentally misunderstanding how the Force and its sides work.
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>>92354314
Okay, I learned something today.

So there may be some honorary alien Mando clans, especially post-TCW

But right now, the vast majority are purebloods, if there are any alien ones, they are in the vast minority, as we have seen none of them yet.

I'm curious about Bo-Katan and the upcoming Mandalore arc in Rebels s4
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>>92354292
>that nigga in the back with no face
gets me every time
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>>92354472
Alien Mando confirmed
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>>92354386
But thats not true. The whole point of the Je'daii order was balance between dark and light. Gray jedi may be a bad label for this, but the concept of handling dark and light in a functional way exists.
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>>92354472
I don't know what you're talking about anon.

There's nobody without a face there.
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>>92354197
>The Force has a light side and a dark side
No it doesn't. That's the point.

Just because there is a Dark side does not mean there has to be a Light.

There is only the Force. As the Dark Side is a corruption, and nothing more. That is why there is no 'Gray' as it denies the reality of the Force, and you will fall because of it.
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>>92354418

At this point it's based on coming from either the planet Mandalore or coming from the Mandalore sector. I think Martin meant to say "sector", not "system".

Satine, as Duchess of Mandalore, didn't just rule Mandalore itself: she ruled nearly 1000 systems in the sector. She's not even from Mandalore proper; she's from Kalevala, another influential system in the sector, represented in the Senate by Tal Merrik.
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>>92354549
Yeah, it's called a Jedi.

The Jedi are all about keeping the force in balance.

This does NOT mean embracing the dark side and getting cool McLightning powers.

The fault of the Jedi is that they were arrogant and started ignoring the dark side rather than keeping shit in check, to the point that they neutered their own emotions.
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>>92354221
More like:
>We're gonna go through the planetary shield at lightspeed!
Even my autistic cousin called out the movie on that, and that boy is a Star Wars fanatic.
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>>92354549

>Je'daii Order
>referencing Legends as if it has some bearing on new canon
>implying Dawn of the Jedi was good
>implying Ostrander's Star Wars comics weren't always just edgy trash with clumsy wall-of-text dialogue
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>>92354630
Oddly enough that didn't bother me. That episode where Anakin and Co. come out of hyperspace practically touching Grevious' ship on a rescue mission isn't that much more plausible than emerging in atmosphere would be. Doesn't the other Jedi with him say, "Any closer and we'd be flying down corridors."
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>>92354742
>implying Ostrander's Star Wars comics weren't always just edgy trash with clumsy wall-of-text dialogue
Not everything was.

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/John_Ostrander

He worked on a lot of Republic aND a few other good comics. It's just a shame he did Dawn of the Jedi and Legacy
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>>92354262
>That's what happened with the Wren Clan, making them Honorary Mandalorians, despite not being of heritage.

Considering the autistic nature of Mandalorians, I doubt they actually 'welcome' people in fully until they've mixed some of their own into them so that they have some blood ties to Mandalore. Otherwise I doubt they'd tolerate folks like the Wrens calling themselves Mandalorian without at least ONE ancestor having been from Mandalore proper. And it would fit in with some Mandalorians like, House Vizsla, who see themselves as more Mandalorian than others, because folks like the Wrens are effectively halbreeds/mongrels in their eyes.
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>>92355302
>Considering the autistic nature of Mandalorians, I doubt they actually 'welcome' people in fully until they've mixed some of their own into them

You hear that Sabine? You REALLY wanna be a Mandalorian don't you?

*Unzips Darksaber*
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>>92355179
Those hips tho
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>>92355449

As much as I like where that's going, Sabine's probably got a Mandalorian ancestor already. Otherwise I don't think clan Wren would exist at this point.

Also, looking at pic related, am I the only one who think Bo's become a little pathetic?

>sister dead
>likely has been the officially recognized head of House Kryze since then
>was appointed by the Republic/Empire as the highest ranked official of all Mandalorian territories for a few years

>still wears House Vizsla's colors.


Come on, bitch. Your senpai is dead from trying to stall the Maul and he never noticed you, get over it.
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>>92354262
>>92354314
thanks
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>>92355179
I'm a sucker for hips. But moreso for skinny girls however this is fine
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>>92354196

I liked TFA until they got off Jakku.

The rathtars are just awful. That whole sequence felt Abrams was trying to do Firefly wrong without even doing Star Wars at all.

Takodana is mediocre. Maz's cantina is hopelessly derivative, as is Maz herself. The battle is disappointingly tiny, and I'm still annoyed about Starkiller Base's ability to just instantly shoot across the galaxy; even if the lasers are supposed to be entering hyperspace, it should still take hours.

The destruction of the Hosnian system had zero weight because it had never been mentioned before it was destroyed, while Alderaan's destruction happened after Alderaan had been mentioned something like 50 times and turned into the goddamned Emerald City of Oz.

And then we get to the Battle of Starkiller Base itself. Honestly, I'm willing to grant Rey all of her abilities, except the mind trick. The mind trick is just bullshit. Her appearance of hypercompetence is not due to her abilities actually being unreasonably powerful; it's due to the fact that every single situation she's been in all movie has played directly to her strengths and nobody else's, so nobody else has gotten a chance to save the day unless she's absent from the party. But the mind trick is just strictly bullshit.

And then of course we have the whole "lightspeed through the shield" thing. I hate how the new canon has decided that you can both enter(R1) and exit(TFA) lightspeed in an atmosphere AND gravity well yet ALSO still has interdictors that function by producing gravity wells (Tarkin and Rebels). That's just wrong. There's a miscommunication somewhere between the movie writers and everybody else, and I can't believe the story group didn't step in on this shit and stop it.

Kylo punching his wound is just kind of confusing. Like, I know the theories (drawing power from pain), and I actually think they're right, but in the moment it's kind of bizarre because we've never seen anything like it in canon.
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>>92357194
>I can't believe the story group didn't step in on this shit and stop it
Probably because they didn't. Remember, JJ did a lot of things without their knowledge or consent.

The one that really got me, apart from that damn helicopter shot(really should have ended it with the Falcon going into Hyperspace), was the attack on Starkiller. A hand full of X-wings shouldn't have been able to inflict that much damage to something that big. They're not bombers. The entire time I was going, why aren't they using B-wings? or Y-wings for that matter.
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>>92357194
>I hate how the new canon has decided that you can both enter(R1) and exit(TFA) lightspeed in an atmosphere AND gravity well yet ALSO still has interdictors that function by producing gravity wells (Tarkin and Rebels).
There's either a threshold for how strong the local gravitational field can be while still allowing hyperspace transitions or travel or there's a limit on the gravity gradient one can transition or travel through. Let Interdictors produce highly localized intense fields, while planets produce more diffuse yet far more intense fields, and it all works.
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>>92352899
They will most likely be the CIS specialists.
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>>92354290
so modern americans
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>>92353773
I jumped when it started moving. Jesus christ I need sleep.
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>>92357194
>And then of course we have the whole "lightspeed through the shield" thing. I hate how the new canon has decided that you can both enter(R1) and exit(TFA) lightspeed in an atmosphere AND gravity well yet ALSO still has interdictors that function by producing gravity wells (Tarkin and Rebels). That's just wrong. There's a miscommunication somewhere between the movie writers and everybody else, and I can't believe the story group didn't step in on this shit and stop it.
https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/812487400119095296

https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/812490754757038080

https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/812489082773204992

https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/812501062028378112

https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/812500134546149376

https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/812558300222918656

https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/757723980354686976

https://twitter.com/pablohidalgo/status/827333570293223425
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>>92358720

They could have ended it on the shot just before the helicopter shot, with Luke looking intently at the lightsaber and Rey. Would have been fine.

Starkiller Base is just a tire fire. Everything about it. Word is that when Arndt and Lucas were working on the original 7 script, back when Lucas was still thinking about making it himself before the sale, they did all the Jakku stuff but after that they just went to find Luke, and once they found him he took over the movie from that point forward. They couldn't figure out a good way for him to not overshadow the rest of the party.

They kept working on it, until finally Lucas threw up his hands and said "my name's on it, everybody's going to hate it anyway just for that, fuck it" and sold to Disney. Arndt said he needed 18 months to keep working and get a workable script. Disney execs gave him 6. He quit, Abrams and Kasdan said "we can figure SOMETHING out in 6 months".

My theory is that Starkiller Base was borne of the need to figure something out in 6 months. It's just filler. It's a way to put off finding Luke until the very end of the movie, so that the problem of "Luke takes over the movie" can be passed off to whoever's next in line. The Force Awakens actually ends with Han Solo boarding the Falcon, and everything after that is a holding pattern until the story finally progresses at the very very end.
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when is jedi battle meditation going to become canon again.
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>>92359266
Never
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>>92359266
It will only ever be a game mechanic.
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>>92359383
good. if its possible for a technique to be a mary sue the jedi battle meditation is
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STREAM NOW

GET IN HERE FOR SAMURAI JECK
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>>92354068
Old Jedi are dying, their way wasn't working.

Now you will have equal light and dark inside you.

It's that lack of balance that created Sith and the fall of the Jedi order.
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MOMMY ME WANT MILKY
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>>92354472
I think his face is turned the other way, but you make out part of his ear.
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anyone got the webms of ashley and andi exercising from celebration?
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>>92359498
I think it's a neat idea that a powerful Force user could influence the outcome of a battle by manipulating the minds of those fighting. It certainly doesn't seem like it would have been too much of a stretch for Sheev, for example.
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>>92360290
Okay, but then that's not a Jedi anymore.
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>>92360629
No shit?

Jedi are being deleted/upgraded into something new, shiny and GREY
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>>92360679
Not sure what point you're trying to make.
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>>92360360
id suck her tits
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>its an EUfag defends grey jedi episode AGAIN
I hate reruns, can someone post the interview where George Lucas describes the dark side as a malignant cancer upon the Force as opposed to a balanced counterpart
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>>92360629
Jedi are changing.

They responsible for the Sith and the fall of the Old Republic due to their doctrine against the Jedi, this is why Luke is upset and disgruntled with them in The Last Jedi. He's realized it all the responsibility of the Jedi, it is literally 100% their fault due to religious zealotry and dogma. Jedi failed from the get go and need to die in order to actually achieve their goal as peacekeepers...by extinguishing them Luke is saving the galaxy.

"First comes the day
Then comes the night.
After the darkness
Shines through the light.
The difference, they say,
Is only made right
By the resolving of gray
Through refined Jedi sight."

It'll be successors that uphold the Jedi intent as peacekeepers without being ignorant of half of the Force that makes up them and the galaxy.
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>>92354742
>Having this much shit taste
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>>92360859
>doctrine against the Jedi
I mean Sith and dark side
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>>92360819
No the Sith are the cancer
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>>92360859
>babby's first critical misunderstanding of the force
did I take a time machine back to 2007?
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>>92361060
You're wrong as Lucas revised what it was a loooong time ago.

There's a light and a dark.

Jedi and Sith are both wrong about following the Force. You're supposed to be equal and become at peace.

Jedi beliefs
-Can't use the Force for personal gain
-Gift you give others and only others
-You aren't better than anyone else because of it
Sith
-Serve yourself
-It's yours do what you want with it
-You are better than everyone else because of it

The real answer is in the middle and accepting both parts of it.
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>>92361244
[citation needed]
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>>92361350
Any of the times Lucas talked about the selfish and the selfless. Or the time where he said the dark side was originally supposed to be erased but then changed his mind and said it was part of nature and had to stay.

The galaxy can't ever have too many of either and they have to have a balance. This solved by the grey.
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>>92361244
What makes a man turn neutral? Lust for gold? Power? Or were you just born with a heart full of neutrality?
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Just finished reading this a few minutes ago. I don't know why I put it off so long, so many anons have been vouching for it, and I thought Bloodlines was the great too. Ended a lot different than I thought it would. I was sure Thane and Ciena were going to die at Jakku, I was pleasantly surprised that they both survived. Are there any hints in canon as to what happened to them afterwards, or am I free to assume that Ciena got out of prison and she and Thane had a whole bunch of kids and lived happily ever after?

Also, I loved how this book continued the old EU tradition of having the main characters play some important role in every important SW moment possible. It's ridiculous but lot's of fun
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>>92361637
Absolute indifference
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>>92360397
That's the ear and the back of his head, but the way he's positioned he either has no face or it's scrunched up to hell at that angle to both have facial features but you can't see any
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>>92361637
Heh, they probably would be like Bendu but I think the "through refined Jedi sight" part is what will give them their path. They'll be ordinary people more or less but follow the Jedi code of helping people.

They'll own ships though, have houses...take breaks from work...get in romances openly and etc.

Jedi will be like real law-men like Lucas wanted, but without living a life of civil-slavery. They won't be as monkish as before, but we have a ton of stuff of that with them by now and we can always revisit that in various was...but I'm sure there will still a few here and there that act like monks and some that act like Han.
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>>92361721
They've not been mentioned again yet, no

Also yeah, a lot of EU-style "She was just off-screen the whole time!", which is silly fun, as long as they don't start overdoing it like the EU did.
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>>92361721
They haven't touched on their fates post-Jakku yet, but I'm hoping Gray writes a followup
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>>92361954
Yeah, that was one of the things that killed the last act of the Plagueis novel for me. There were times when Luceno was going out of his way just to have a "remember that scene from TPM? Well here's where Plagueis was, literally fifteen feet from the camera frame!" moment.
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>>92362024

>He makes everything make sense
>This killed the book for me!
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>>92362024
More like the DP novel put the PT and TPM in particular in a whole new light and redeemed it
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>>92362123
>>92362105
-t. rlm brainlets
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>>92362105
>>92362123
Not him but I never got this idea that the Plagueis novel made sense of Episode 1. I don't remember it really adding anything to it.
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>>92362221
It doesn't. The closest it does to "explaining" TPM is shedding more light on how Sidious got control of Gunray, but even that wasn't something that really shed any light on it, since the explanation had been around for years and all Luceno did was depict their initial meeting.
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>>92362168
What the fuck are you even talking about you dickhead? RLM don't even for the most part care about EU/Legends material, they only care about the movies and by that i mean the OT and TFA
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>>92361809
You have a far higher opinion of human and alien nature than I, anon. Give your Zone V order of force users five generations and I expect you'll have civic-minded members facing off, with government support, against powerful self serving assholes who are wrecking havoc on the general population.
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>>92362123
Not really

I don't see how it redeemed anything, it just expanded the fable Sheev told in ROTS, which was already stellar storytelling that sufficed for the PT.

And by "not really", I don't mean that TPM or PT are un-redeemed either. If anything did that, it was TCW, but I honestly think the PT stands on its own just fine anyways.
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>>92362482
But at least the Force will be in balanceâ„¢

But in all seriousness in order to combat that scenario the only thing I think you can do is introduce some sort of pure dark side entities born from shadows that are monstrous beings that become the Sauron/orcs of Star Wars and cause trouble. Make that the new foe.
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>>92352834
>lots of TCW content including Rex and Ahsoka as heros
>Rogue One content
>lots of ground vehicles
>Unit markings for clones based on map
>more aliens for the rebels
>more BF2 modes (hero assault, hunt, etc.)
>squad system
>better combined arms fighting
>no shitty perks
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>>92362292
Well also how Sifo got the idea for the clone army, Plaguies being the brains behind the Naboo invasion, confirming that he and Sdious played a part in Anakin's bith
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>>92362977
Oh yeah and also expanded on the lore of the midichlorians
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>>92362977
>Plaguies being the brains behind the Naboo invasion
Yeah, but that doesn't really change much other than "well instead of this character planning it, this other character did."
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>>92363163
It's a moot point anyway since it's an example of Sidious having the idea but letting Plagueis think it's his. A lot of what Plagueis influences, particularly in the TPM timeframe, is just Sidious tricking him into thinking he's still the brains of the operation.
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>>92352555
...Shi'ar, right?
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somebody explain to me the weird time shit in episode V while posting togruta titties
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>>92362929
I wasn't clear. The powerful self serving assholes will be other Force users from the 50% Grey club.
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Grey Jedi? More like Gay Jedi, am I right?
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>>92363569
No, you were clear...and I said what we'd have to do.

Greys might be beyond being evil due to be grey and at peace and full of balanceâ„¢
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Just finished Thrawn.

What's our Unknown Regions threat?

YV?
Ssi-ruuk?
New Sith Empire?
Place your bets ladies and genetlemen.
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>>92364132
Which brings us full circle. You have far more faith in the lure of the middle ground than I.
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>>92364176
Honestly, I think it's just set up for Snoke

Would be interesting in a wild card enemy though
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>>92364176
The Yussiruuk Vonthg, represented by their leader, Snoke
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>>92364176
Nothing and they never bring it up again
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>>92364290
>>92364300
>>92364514
I want more Vanto and Thrawn fucking up pirates.
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>>92364176
If it isn't Snoke, then it's what ever is chasing him.
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>>92364676
I actually miss the Thrawn book

Listening to that audiobook was so comfy

I usually don't re-read books, but I might make an exception for that sometime
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>>92364676
>I want more Vanto and Thrawn fucking
Agreed
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>>92364761
In all honesty, I could read stories of Thrawn and Vanto in their fight against rebels all day. I realized that I was halfway through the book and got sad that it was almost over. Just the way that Zahn writes him is so fucking good.
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>>92362929

>introduce some sort of pure dark side entities born from shadows that are monstrous beings that become the Sauron/orcs of Star Wars and cause trouble

What a fascinating concept for a universe! Incidentally, would you like to hear about a contract that will grant you any one wish you want?
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>>92349031
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>>92352834
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>>92365907

No way that's the same SS.

I love it though, thank you.
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>>92360859
>>92361244
>>92361512
That doesn't make any sense whatsoever. The claim about being ignorant of half the Force was something used by Sheev to send Anakin teetering over the edge. It's when you start compromising your principles that you begin to fall. The problem with the PT Jedi was that they went to far in their attempt to serve the Light that they wound up either ignoring or suppressing their own darkness instead of accepting its existence.

There is no middle ground between the ideal (what Qui Gon, Yoda, and Obi Wan came to learn) and the Sith. It's ideal not to go for personal gain and to serve others, as well as not to hold yourself above others. Being selfish and arrogant is a dick move, and being "in the middle" is basically the average person, who should be striving for the ideal to the best of their ability, as per every single religious system that inspired Star Wars.

Where, pray tell, is the so-called balance there? The whole grey thing comes off as an idiot's attempt at moral philosophy. The middle ground is the Average Joe, who should be striving toward the ideal. Otherwise you're just jogging in place being mediocre or a selfish asshole like the Bendu.
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In honor of our other /co/ anime right now in their absolute CLUSTERFUCK:

https://youtu.be/0F1_xQ2XC70

God it's like watching people here argue over Rey's parents right after the movie came out.

>she'll never be Dooku's granddaughter
Why even live? But really now.
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>>92366307
Continuing from the above, this just comes off as wish fulfillment.

"Oh, I'm so edgy and being a goody two shoes like Luke did at the end of ROTJ is like, so unrealistic. Let's go saving the day while shooting lightning from our fingertips."

The whole point of that movie's ending was that Luke had to reject the lure of the Dark Side, which promises solutions by taking the easy way out and compromising on your principles. It's even exemplified in how the Dark Side goes against any concept of balance by warping nature (e.g. creating life, immortality, shooting lightning from your hands).

The whole Grey thing is basically a Redditor's attempt at being deep, but I'd like to think that the average anon possesses enough brain matter to see through that sort of sophistry, and that you're just baiting.
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http://www.strawpoll.me/12961271
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>>92366494
Of course Rey isn't Dooku's granddaughter silly, she'd have to be Han Solo's daughter for that to happen!
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>>92366800
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>>92366842
MSW is 100% right, anon. Are you questioning MSW?
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It's my life long dream to copay as Lando. Is it OK for a white guy to do this around sjws?
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>>92368274
Just don't blackface and you're good
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>>92360536

It should probably be something that requires the user to enter a deep trance, and have very extensive training, not just in the force, but in military tactics, just to be able to do it at all. I imagine by the time of the movies it would pretty much be a dead technique given the lack of need.
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>>92368274
Cosplay as Lando with vitiligo
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I found quite a decent completed novel length Star Wars fanfiction with Thrawn and Pellaeon and all the other characters (except for Karrde if I remember):

https://www.fanfiction.net/s/3490145/1/Galaxies-Apart

Pros:
It's novel length, lots of plot twists, quite in character in my opinion with realistic happenings and a strong conclusion
No random romance, in character, dynamic plot (etcetera)

Cons:
Beige prose (beiger than Zahn's and beiger than Brandon Sanderson). I thought that the prose could have been a bit more stylised and used some more detail.
Character screentime is essentially proportioned the same as in every other Zahn's book.
Doesn't utilise enough hard science fiction concepts which I think suits space operas
Some overreliance on already extant plot and time travel and some amateurisms that I believe would have been helped by some editing.
Could have pushed the plot envelope harder.

Conclusion: The working of a talented, if not amateur author who has good ideas and can write endings.
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>>92368808
>you will never have a vagina to be able to enjoy fanfiction at this level
it's not fair
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I want to _hug her
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>>92369091
>David Hume is a female
I subscribe to Hume's notion that all 'new' ideas are all derived from compounded impressions of the real world for example a golden mountain is gold and a mountain and an unicorn is a horn and a horse. Successful authors must simply be particularly good or well read or draw ideas from a lot of sources to the point that they are able to compound, transpose, augment, diminish and espouse ideas in such a maner that the readers are no longer able to recognise the work as unoriginal.

You can read more about Hume's concept of ideas from here http://comp.uark.edu/~rlee/cgi-bin/ref.cgi?8#8
You will notice that his arguments differ from the rationalist approach that ideas are innate.

No book is original for example Le Morte d'Arthur is still steals ideas from biblical routes and some of the more modern authors like Dan Simmons shamelessly inserts real people in addition to their ideas like his Keats simulacra.

All in all, it's quite interesting to see where characters come from. Thrawn, for example, invokes quite a few Machiavellian traits (regardless of whether The Prince is a clever parody or not).
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>>92368808
Is there gay stuff
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TFA hating starts to get really annoying.
Funny. Just when I thought, we got over "prequels a shit" memes, it started all over with the sequels. It's like I'm back in early 2000s.
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Based Pablo.
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>>92370203
what about rey pablo
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>>92370159
I don't think people are hating on the sequels, its literally just TFA. I've seen a lot of hype for The Last Jedi even in these threads
Still I'm surprised at the lack of "God they really are ripping off the originals, the second one is even the best one!" jokes
And, speaking as someone who enjoys TFA, the more I think about it and unpack that movie the more frustrating it becomes. It was a fun film but after two years dissecting it it has not held up well
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>>92370159
>sequels
no it's just abrams.
rogue one was great and i'm sure last jedi will be good.

i don't have any real problems with any of the characters and stuff themselves, but just hand it over to someone competent
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>>92370226
>right now
She's going to reveal her true butt slut nature in 8 and 9 anon
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Everyone has a price
What the fuck i'm getting completely wrecked in his campaign how do i git gud. I played countless strategy games and finished the Empire campaign on normal or few months ago, but i can't get to Yavin IV. I started on hard and had to turn down difficulty to normal and i still get my ass raped.
I corrupted few planets but Imperial fleet nearby black hole still obliterates me. And i don't have required units and buildings to corrupt remaining planets.
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>>92370159
It's the generation clash, combined with the series' direction swerwing wildly, always leaving the old fans feeling like they're not catered to. It happened with the OT purists and now it's happening to the prequel fans.

See you in ten years, when sequelfags start shitting all over Episode X and the ST will be considered an irremovable part of the mythos.
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>>92370130
No that one's pretty much a novel with all plot and no shipping.
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>>92370294
reminder that one day unironically rey's theme motif will play during scenes for the main character of a kotor game

just like luke and vader's theme plays for literally everything
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>>92370159
I respect a lot of the actors and people who worked on TFA, but it was definitely not a good film while the majority praised it like it's a masterpiece. I'm glad people are starting to come to their senses and realising that all these fake "critics" were wrong.
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>>92370362
I can't blame the critics. There was something magical about watching a new star wars movie after so long that after that opening crawl my brain just turned off
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>>92370362
I mean... TFA is not a masterpiece, sure. None of Star Wars movies are.
But it's still not an utter disaster, like /swco/ would like me to believe.
Every SW film is a deeply flawed but ultimately highly enjoyable film. TFA is pretty much on par with the rest.
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>>92370203
>Ezra
Perfect.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pORNNBE4YVE
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>>92370462

I don't think anyone's arguing that TFA was technically poorly made, they just think that JJ and co made very poor decisions with story, aesthetics and character that made the overall experience unenjoyable and not feel like a SW movie
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>>92370535
Wait, really? TFA felt very Star Wars to me.
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>>92370462
None of Star Wars movies are, but they were certainly better made than TFA. TFA felt no different than a Transformers movie.
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>>92370453
That and TFA is just designed for a different audience than us. I would say a casual audience and I don't mean the Bayformers audience here. Just casual, in terms of people who aren't massive SW fans who autisically tear through all the media there is to consume, people who just wanted an entertaining space adventure movie with likable characters. There's nothing wrong with that and TFA certainly succeeds on that front.

That's the core of the TFA vs. Rogue One argument after all. Each sides would have you believe that the other is a complete dumpster fire, when both movies are more like two sides of the same coin.
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>>92370592
Eh, I believe it comes down to personal opinion. I think, episodes I and II were significantly worse.
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>>92370159
TFA is shit movie and deserves hate, just like majority of nucanon stuff Disney made so far. The only good part of this movie is Kylo and he still could be made better. And i like crossguard lightsaber
Prequels are shit movies with god tier setting, but TFA era is bad and disappointing like the rest of the movie, so there is nothing redeemable about it.
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>>92370635
>TFA era is bad and disappointing
Its not we saw much of the sequel era so far. Take the first movie of each trilogy on theor own and this critique can be applied to all of them. Taken separately, ANH is rather boring and TPM is plain silly. If you read, SW material published before the second movie of each trilogy was released, it can be very jarring in the way it clashes with overall feel of the time period in question. It's just part of the growing pains, I guess.
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>>92370535
If anything, TFA felt too Star Wars. That's a general problem with anything Star Wars nowadays though -- it tries so hard to be itself that it forgets to be more. Here's hoping TLJ throws a wrench into everything by drawing more from his ideas rather than making some contemporary Star Wars.
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>>92370575

We'll have to agree to disagree, TFA's dialogue, camerawork, comedy, and visuals such as the design of the new stormtroopers and Maz Kanata felt like a strange imitation of SW and not real SW to me.

The prequels are flawed, yes - but at the very least they attempted new things and created designs that have stayed with me all these years, without simply modifying something that existed beforehand: Maul, Naboo, Geonosis, Coruscant, Grevious, Battle Droids, the various Jedi designs, etc

TFA had good design that I liked, such as Kylo Ren, and that red background character, but everything else was simply a recoloured or tweaked (in a way that makes it uglier) version of something from the OT.

The dialogue in the PT was weak in places, and some of the romance stuff made me cringe, but it at least felt like something from the SW universe. The OT had a great blend of comedic, serious, dark, and light dialogue and moments that made it really flow and feel like a great adventure movie.

TFA had 'you got a boyfriend a cute boyfriend' and other wierd instances of dialogue that almost seemed improvised in how weak it was, such as the interaction between Fin, Han, and Phasma when they throw her down the trash shaft thing, and Hux's terrible speech. It was cringeworthy, and didn't fit in with the established eb and flow of SW performances.
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>>92370518
Huh, that worked a lot better than I thought it would have
Disney doing a Star Wars themed musical when?
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>>92370623
Not really personal opinion. I don't like Episode 1 or 2, and haven't watched them in over a decade but I remember the story pretty well even if they weren't great. TFA's story was just all over the place and the pacing was horrendous. It was more of the film shoving references and copied scenes from the OT all stitched together than an actual film.
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>>92370689
I dunno, ANH already introduced some awesome designs like stormtoopers, vader, ships, death star and fun setting with evil dictatorship empire vs small rebels. TPM showed on big screen Coruscant and Naboo, introduced B1 and droideka which i love, and origin of Republic vs CIS war. Sequels just expanded on it.
But TFA didn't show anything fun. Everything was just worse version of Civil War. I dislike First Order Apple design, and it seems that it will be just Civil War II with powerfull empire and weak rebels. I hoped for at least some sexy new armor for new republic
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>>92370689
>probably one of the most watched films ever made and changed the industry forever
>boring
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>>92370827
New Republic troopers*
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>>92370739
The first half of your post is, I would say, the direct result of JJ sticking so close to the OT's template. Of course TFA would feel off to you when it draws from the source material so much. TFA has to essentially face the adaptation issue, while the PT was so removed from the original films that, for better or for worse, you had to accept them as their own thing.

From a purely technical, filmmaking perspective, TFA is a solid piece of blockbuster cinema. The comparisons to Transformers or even the MCU are way off target. TFA isn't an art movie and it's not ambitious, but it's a satisfactory work of entertainment craft. The dialogue is very up to date compared to previous SW films with their love of stage dialogue and delivery, but I suppose that's a matter of personal preference rather than objective quality. You'd find just as many people who prefer the more modern fast snappy dialogue of TFA as people who like RotS's theatricality.
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>>92370815
Well, I make a point of marathoning Star Wars every May, so I have an opportunity to compare the films back to back. Episodes I and II are definatly worse.
Episode I had problems with pacing, as it started ff too quickly with Naboo invasion and then stopped for a while to fuck around on Tattoine. The pod race scene has always been a good opportunity to take a pee break and refill my coffee. The pace didnt pick up untill the main cast returned to Naboo.
Episode II was all over the place al well in the middle, constatly jumping between Anakin and Obi-Wan storylines.

I still love the fuck out of them, but I'll never believe, that they were better then TFA.
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>>92370866
>From a purely technical, filmmaking perspective, TFA is a solid piece of blockbuster cinema.
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>>92370846
Let's be fair. ANH's success is partially owed to the timing of release. If it would have been released five years later or earlier, nobody would remember it.
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http://sfdebris.com/videos/special/herosjourney.php
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>>92370981

Pretty ill-informed post
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>>92370955
>it started ff too quickly with Naboo invasion and then stopped for a while to fuck around on Tattoine
That was like after 30 minutes, anon. That's more than enough time to get an understanding of what's going on.

>Episode II was all over the place al well in the middle, constatly jumping between Anakin and Obi-Wan storylines.
That's not "pacing" and there's literally nothing wrong with this. It's common to have more than one, sometimes several story lines happening at the same time and then come together in the end. It sounds like there's a problem with you, rather than the film.
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>>92371279
Whoa there, sport. You dont have to make it personal.
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>>92353493
cause Pablo's /ourboy/
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>>92370203
>Leia is pure
phew
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>>92353493
Cause /swco/ is a chihuahua: overexcitable and loyal to whoever scratches their belly.
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>>92372299
t. butthurt EUtist
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>>92354583
>Kalevala
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>>92361512
So the Grey is just a meta-model for how to be light.
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>>92370705
>>92370739
>>92370866
>>92370955

http://www.ferdyonfilms.com/2015/star-wars-episode-vii-the-force-awakens-2015/26723/
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>>92372935
More like Grey doesn't mean anything at all, and if anything trying to add a third pole to the Jedi's flawed understanding of Light and Dark just further complicates any attempts to understand the Force
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I miss K'Krihk
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>>92373028
I'm surprised he never showed up in TCW
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>>>92360742
>>>92360360

Enjoy your green milk.
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pretty much
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>>92373610
Of course that's often paired with this
Like it or not, you're here forever
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>Ryder Azadi is basically the catalyst for Governor Pryce's turn to evil
>mfw
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>>92373778
And he seemed like such a decent bloke when he turned up on Rebels too
I wonder if he knows he's basically responsible for a lot of the shit that's happened to Lothal over the years?
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What if Snoke is Griff?
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>>92374429
Nah, Snoke wears Gold not Orange
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Happy Mother's Day /swco/
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>>92374467
I meant this one.
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>>92374486
Post more cute moms.
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>>92374511
That would require him being good at cons.
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>>92374563
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Are double bladed lightsabers good in KOTOR?
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>>92374563
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>>92374640

They're okay, but there's no reason to take one over dual-wielding a pair of lightsabers.
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>>92372935
Fuck I must be a weeb cause whenever I read the grey or Hear it. I think of Jiren the Grey from Dragon ball Super now
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>>92374563
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>>92374640
>>92374698
>not going with a single lightaber

You philistines have no style. I bet, you give Jolee two lightsabers. I bet, you'd give Kreya two lightsabers if she had two arms.
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>>92374785
I let Jolee just keep his single lightsaber because he already had the dueling perk.
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>>92374563
f
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Does Revenge of the Sith have the best soundtrack of any Star Wars film?
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>>92355179
I took one of those as well
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>>92375547
Possibly
But the best track is still that brief section that plays when Luke goes off on Vader in RotJ
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>>92375547
Yes. It's a masterpiece. Not a single bad track.
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Post actual Star Wars tatoos you have.
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>>92375783
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>>92375783

fucking cringe
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>>92375783

I find it upsetting that you have that permanently on your skin
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>>92375547
It's technically very good but not the best because the soundtrack can only really be appreciated within context of the scene itself.
Music highlights and enhances the emotions of a scene

RotS failed horribly on the emotional side of things. The only scene that worked emotionally is the Order 66 scene and that's entirely due to the music.

The best music in Star Wars is in ANH because it worked with the things to the best effect.
E.g. Twin sunset.
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What's the deal with yellow lightsabers?
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>>92370288
I changed my mind. Zann Consortium is stupidly op when you git gud.
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>>92375827
>>92375855
I didnt fucking ask for your opinion or evaluation. I asked for pictures of Star Wars tattoos you have.
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>she will never be a mother and be spoiled on mother's day

T-thanks Filoni
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>>92375783

Not only did you get a shitty tattoo but you also got it in such a prominent place on your body. you fucked up
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What is /swco/'s favorite thing to mock from the old EU?

Is it Luuke?
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>>92354630
My answer to that is: Because Han Solo.
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>>92375783

This looks like an image you'd find on one of those starterpack memes
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>>92376044
Either Force God Luke or Jedi Prince
Dark Greetings
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>>92375973
For people who don't have a strong connection to the Force
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>>92376018

I love Star Wars to an autistic extent but I want to let you know I would never even consider getting a Star Wars tattoo. It's like holding a sign that says "I'm an underdeveloped manchild" wherever you go, but you can't even put the sign down because its etched into your skin forever.
Get a coverup or something man
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>>92376030
>implying anyone ever see me shirtless
jokes are on you
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>>92376067

what's force god?
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>>92376067
What kind of Force powers was EU Luke capable of?
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>>92376130

Pretty sad
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>>92376140
Joke about how EU Luke is godly powerful
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>>92376117
>being this ashamed of or uncomfortable with being a fan of anything

it this what /swco/ like these days?
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>>92376205

Not ashamed in the slightest, being a fan of something doesn't mean I have to get it permanently tattooed into my skin - that's just sad, and shows an unnecessary amount of devotion to a fictional universe designed for children.
Again, I reiterate, I love Star Wars - but getting a Star Wars tattoo is about as lame as it gets. No one will think it's cool outside of the SW community, and within the community it will only be a minority who think you've made a good decision. Find another way to show how much you love Star Wars. Choose something else to get inked onto your body permanently.
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>>92376140
>>92376149
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Luke_Skywalker/Legends#Force_powers
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>>92376292
What kinda dumbass get tatoos to get someone else's approval?
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>>92375973
They're rare. We've only seen them in the form of Temple Guard lightsaber pikes and the one Ventress buys
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>>92375783
>this ancient seal nulls attacks on the wearers viginity
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>>92376155
You know, what's sad? My first tattoo ever was the name of a girl I loved in aurebesh.
Luckily, no normies around me ever recognise it.
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>>92376205
>getting a tattoo about a dead family member who greatly affected your life
Ok.
>getting a tattoo about your religion that has gotten you through some of the toughest moments of your life and led you to meeting your wife or best friend
Ok.
>getting a tattoo of a billion dollar movie franchise explicitly designed for children and teenagers, basically equal to getting a tattoo of Chester the Cheetos Cheetah or Mickey Mouse
Not ok.
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>>92354556
I appreciate your Dr. Who reference.
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>>92376498
This is how I feel about tattoos. I would only ever get a tattoo to commemorate someone that affected my life profoundly. I would never get a tattoo of a media franchise because there's always the chance I will stop liking that franchise in the future and be stuck with it engraved in my skin for the rest of my life.
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>>92376410

I'm not saying it's for someone's approval, I'm saying consider the consequences. Everything you do in public life is subject to criticism from others, wether you like it or not - that's literally the way humans have evolved. Do what you want to do, get a very poorly thought out tattoo, but just consider that people are going to think you're a fucking loser if you do.
I really don't understand this 'don't care what other people think' ideology because it completely ignores how we form personalities, through criticism, understanding social norms, and the push and pull of cultural standards. If everyone just did what they wanted and didn't consider what people thought about it the world would be a completely different, and far worse, place.

Long story short don't get a shitty star wars tattoo
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>>92376435
sex is overrated

>>92376498
youre saying, you never used your understanding of the Force as a guideline for decisions you make in life? Jesus Christ, are you even SW?
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>>92376497

That is colossally lame. At least it doesn't take up half of your chest please tell me it's small
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And Revenge of the Shit: The All-Anal Final Chapter.
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>>92376498

This anon speaks the truth
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>>92376534
Yeah. Like imagine Star Wars turns into a bunch of extremely shitty video games made by EA and some equally shitty Agents of SHIELD type show and it's also revealed that George Lucas goes around orphanages stealing newborn babies to anally rape to death with lightsaber toys in his basement. Would you want a tattoo of that on your body?
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>>92376534
I've been into SW for more then a decade. There's no chance I won be by this point, its a part of who I am. And SW did affcted my life profoundly. You say, it didnt for you?
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>>92376588

If the TV show friends taught you how to be in a relationship better would you get a friends tattoo?

If captain crunch taught gave you the moral guideline to eat better cereal would you get a captain crunch tattoo?

Are you comparing, actual, real-life, religion to Star Wars?

Are you literally autistic?
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>>92376646

His shitty tattoo had poisoned ink and it's impaired his ability to formulate coherent sentences
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>>92376569
I didnt make a tattoo on my face, did I? And I dont walk around with my chest exposed, so no confrontation with societal rules here.
Those who know me enought, will understand the tattoo. And those who judge me havent been my friends to begin with.
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>>92376646
I like spaghetti and meat balls but I'm not going to have it fucking tattooed on my body

Don't mistake things you enjoy for things that are important
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>>92365238
Heh, you're hilarious anon
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>>92376763
>I like spaghetti and meat balls but I'm not going to have it fucking tattooed on my body

Pleb.
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>>92376640
I've been throught 2000's SW shaming and it didnt stop me being open about loving SW. Why should it change?
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>>92376646
I've been into Star Wars my whole life. It has taught me very little about morality and philosophy because it's literally a bunch of video games and comic books. It also helps that I'm an adult so I read actual holy books and philosophy books to get that sort of insight instead of resorting to a children's media franchise. To a child Star Wars is their philosophy. To an adult things like the Holy Bible, Tao Te Ching, and the works of Aristotle are their philosophy. Not saying they don't occasionally overlap because Lucas was inspired by these works but you gain a lot more actual knowledge and insight if you study real philosophy and religion and you lose value in things like children's movies as you read more and more real world texts.
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>>92376724

If your tattoo wasn't as shit you wouldn't have to justify it so much. Did you discuss this decision with anyone? Anyone at all? I find it hard to believe no one tried to talk you out of such a poor decision
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>>92376724

His shitty tattoo induced AIDS is getting worse, words and sentences are becoming almost impossible to type
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>>92376820
I'm not saying you shouldn't love Star Wars. It's a great franchise. But if it's one of the works that is at the very core of your belief system and morality then you're a complete pleb at life who needs to grow past 13 years old.
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>>92376811

I would unironically prefer that tattoo than to have that other shitty Star Wars tattoo plastered on my body
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>>92376820

So, hypothetically - if Lucas admitted he created SW for the specific purpose of molesting vulnerable children, and took no care in the story or world of SW - would you not distance yourself from the franchise?
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>>92375783
>>92376130
>implying anyone ever see me shirtless
You could have still kept that as an option
I think the joke is most definitely on you
Also half the pics I've with that logo have the following text
>choose wisely
It's a joke that keeps on delivering
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>>92376980

hahaha
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>gather in a Star Wars general tread to talk about how much they love SW
>damn a guy for getting a SW tattoo

wow, what a bunch of phonies.
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Why did they change Korriband to Moraband?
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>>92374785
I made Kreia make due with a single (as if she had any choice) short vibrosword.
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>>92376980
>choose wisely
It's like pottery. It rhymes.
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What if Snoke is a Gonk droid?
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>>92377038
Lucas probably just prefers the sound of Moriband
Just about everyone seems to be calling it Korriban still, and its not unbelievable that the planet is known by multiple names
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>>92377029

>Liking SW and wanting to discuss it
>Getting a large coloured logo of two factions from the SW universe permanently etched onto your chest and getting butthurt when people call you out for your shitty decision

Those are two very different things, and only one of them is worthy of shame
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>>92377029
>gather in a gay scat anime general thread to talk about how much they love gay scat anime
>damn a guy for getting a gay scat anime tattoo

wow, what a bunch of phonies.
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>>92376498
>Star Wars
>Not a religion
Sure anon.
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>>92377177

>godless insincere postmodernist detected
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>>92377038
George didn't want another planet that sounded similar to Coruscant to avoid confusion.
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>>92377211
Korriban doesn't sound all that similar to Coruscant.
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>>92377029

>gather in a padme buttfun poodoo play general thread to talk about how much they love padme buttfun poodoo play
>damn a guy for getting a padme buttfun poodoo play tattoo

wow, what a bunch of phonies
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>>92377129
What if Snoke is some faggot who got a bunch of Star Wars tattoos all over his body then when he was embarrassed for making such a retarded decision he removed huge portions of his skin until he looked like he does in TFA?
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>>92377231

they both start with a 'kor' sound and George knew that's enough to confuse low spark normies
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>>92377038
Korriban didn't sound like an EVIL world so George had to change it.

I'm not kidding.
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>>92377243

That's a pretty legit theory, does someone want to ask Pablo?
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>>92376588
>sex is overrated
You're not doing it right.
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What would be subtle enough to get tattooed that doesn't scream star wars
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>>92377330

Don't get a SW tattoo, man
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>>92377330
Full body Gonk droid tattoo
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>>92376833
Religions are stupid and not real anyway, what an unfun post.
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>>92376588
I'm ace and I am physically disgusted by the idea of being close to another human being. You're still a faggot
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>>92377349

in what fucking way is religion not real. You can be a non-believer in god but you can't deny that religion exists
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>>92375783
I totally agree with you

here's mine yours is sick dude
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>>92377349

>Underage detected
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>>92377395

You literally just googled 'Mando tattoo'
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>>92377395
Mando fags are the most autistic of all
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>>92376833

Star Wars and other childish, but fun, franchises such as Marvel have taken over the place of God and Religion to a lot of people and it's fucking sad

I blame postmodernism
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>>92377437
No I went to this chicks deviant art
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>>92377462
>taken over the place of god an religion

What's a god to a nonbeliever anon
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>>92377469

jesus christ we need another ice age
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>>92376640
We know it's you, George.
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>>92377491
An interesting philosophical figure than historically has changed the fate of entire empires and in modern day continues to inspire billions of people?
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>>92377525

He's quoting a Kanye West song, anon
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>>92377330
Something like the little markings and logos on x wing pilot helmets or clones?
They're also simple enough that you could just make up your own. It would then be Star Wars inspired but not actually Star Wars and I guess it would also some personal meaning and I guess you can tack any other meaning you want to have while you're designing it
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>>92377390
That's what I meant. Thanks for clearing that up anon
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>>92377549

so just a regular tattoo, then
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>>92377415
(You)
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>>92377549

What you're suggesting is called a 'Tattoo'
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Man I feel like the average IQ of this board has dropped 10 points today whats happened
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>>92377525
So did hitler but should I worship him?
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>>92377613

Man, atheists like you are fucking cringeworthy
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https://youtu.be/-b7GAhnVwhA

Who's the person with long purple hair shooting at the probe droid at 1:11?
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>>92376205
You have been decieved. This thread is full of degenerate perverts, closeted homosexuals, Redditors, tumbler whales and the most casual defintion of a star wars fan.
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>>92376833
>I'm an adult and I read adult books
Bringing this shit into a Star Wars thread, god anon have you always been an absolute bore?
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>>92377639
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>>92376833
You have to be 18 to post here.
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>>92377360
T-this is a blue board
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This thread is cancer and you have only yourselves to blame.
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>>92375783
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>>92377749
Why
And also why is his nip on the side of his chest?
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Why does Pryce have to suffer?
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>>92377772
She wants thrawn but he already has Eli
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>>92377733
>pic
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>>92377211
Why do you just lie like that? What do you gain?
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>>92377671

I wasnt the guy that wrote the stuff about books, I'm just letting you know you're annoying
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>>92377768
>why is his nip on the side of his chest
It's not, the excessive amount of tattoos makes it look off but it's in a normal nipple location
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>>92377777
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>>92377698
I'm 23. What did I say that was wrong? I literally just said that Aristotle has more philosophical value than Shadows of the Empire. I didn't say that adults aren't allowed to enjoy Star Wars, only that Star Wars should be the be all end all for someone's media consumption.
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>>92377931
*shouldn't
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>>92377931
Stop lieng about your age and start talking about star wars kid.
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>>92357194
>Kylo punching his wound is just kind of confusing. Like, I know the theories (drawing power from pain), and I actually think they're right, but in the moment it's kind of bizarre because we've never seen anything like it in canon.

It's literally a Marine thing apparently. Adam Driver was a Marine
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>>92377931
>What did I say that was wrong
>>92376833
>It has taught me very little about morality and philosophy because it's literally a bunch of video games and comic books
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>>92378155
Kylo punched his wound because they were going for a Crusader style aesthetic for him
Hence the crossguard on the saber

He was castigating himself
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>>92377168
>>92377234
>comparing Star Wars to a sexual deviation or a meme
that's a bait, right?
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>>92378155
>>92378212
Pain and suffering have been pretty core aspects of the Dark Side in Star Wars for a while, both inflicting it and using it as fuel
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>>92378285

you're being a retard
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>>92375783
Get on my level
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>>92377301
lets come back to it when youre over 25, OK?
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Christ... delet this
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So we can all agree that Silver Lightsabers are a surefire sign of a mary sue right?
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Rest in peace.
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>>92378468
Yes
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>>92378468
>shittin in Ashoka
I happen to agree, but displaying an opinion, that does not agree with majority in unwise around here.
you better start sucking on Filion dick quick to make up for that
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>>92378468
I like when they represent something. For example Imperial Knights from the Legacy comics all had silver and it made sense given their conduct. I wouldn't call them grey but they would be somewhere between a sith and a jedi.
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>>92378398
>/ss/fags are also Reyfags
Why am I not surprised?
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>>92378729
The Exile could also get a silver lightsaber, and it fits his story arc actually.
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>>92378468
The only two characters that have silver lightsabers aren't Mary Sues, so no.
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>>92378515
Rogue Squadron 2>Rogue Squadron>Rogue Squadron 3>Battle for Naboo.
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>>92378398
Jesus fucking christ.
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>>92378734
I love /ss/, but I hate Rey.

What now anon?
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>>92378398
This is just an edit, right?
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>>92378765
>the only two

Don't start
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>>92377733
What's happening in this image and how do I get one that lets me do that?
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>>92377749
>Lego Clone Wars
Based
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>>92378948
It's from a porno.
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>sticc /ss/ will never dance with you

Why even live?
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>>92378926
What? Ahsoka and Tera Sinube are the only two with silvery lightsabers
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>Reddit hates the immortality obsessed mad scientist who designed Darth Vader's suit and has a lab on a giant flying space whale but loves BT and 000
Really makes you think...
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>>92352541
Another character that pushes the normalization of muslim culture and islam. Character is shit and SW now is also.
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>>92353119
>Filoni has plans for her
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>>92376724
I like the tattoo man. I'm gonna get a sleeve of old school kaiju once I graduate college.
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>>92379365

Silly anon, Star Wars has always been shit.

By the way, happy Mother's Day!
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>>92379218
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>>92379738
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>>92379760
Who's the bitch now?
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>>92379804
I don't know. You tell me.
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>>92374785

Once you have the three feats dual wielding is usually a pretty good option since it lets you have twice as many saber upgrades. You can have one saber for stuns and one for damage, or have stuns on both since you're allowed to and double your chances for certain effects.
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>>92379834
If you insist...
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>>92379331
I enjoy BT and Triple Zero in small amounts, but that guy is a fucking idiot with no taste if he hates on the space whales. Those things were awesome, and it was neat to see someone actually attempt transhumanism in Star Wars
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>>92379284

Corran Horn had a silver lightsaber and his was cooler. It had a specific meaning to his character and the subset of jedi lore he embodied.

Basic white is also the color TFU2 gave to generic scrub force users you're intended to kill in droves.

I would say most characters who are actually written officially who use silver have their own reasons for it and have their own character arcs, it's just that it's one of those things fan characters abuse to hell and back and the MMO doesn't help.
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>>92379834
Its definitely you Ahsoka
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>>92373078

I imagine Filoni wasn't a fan of his OP regenerative stuff.
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>>92373753
Top kek
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>>92380079
This. Video game mechanics and poorly thought out fan characters get more due than they're worth by fans for some reason.

Also Kyber crystals > Adegan and whatever else crystals

The canon is streamlining and simplifying things
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>>92380122
They were only just getting around to finishing having every Jedi Council member on the show by Season 6

There are a LOT of characters in Star Wars, it's impressive how much TCW did show.

Of course some people will be left out though. But they could show up in the future.
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>>92376103

That was only true of Zayne, though.
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>>92380247

Yeah, that's definitely a lot likelier, but I felt like a lot of characters from the second half of the Republic comics were rather hit and miss. Though I don't see where K'Khruk could fit into things now.
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>>92380219
Yeah, I think vidya is one of the root causes of the EU's problems. (Beyond the poor communication and 1-up'ing with all the book authors)

Dash Rendar was just a Han Clone because they wanted a game where you could do all the shit you do Han do.

Kyle Katarn was the ultimate Gary Stu because they wanted you to be able to do EVERYTHING you saw in the movies.

Ditto with Revan, but the KOTOR games also permafucked the EU's Old Republic Era.

Then Starkiller had to up the ante in an era where over-the-top hack n slash games were really popular, and everything else in Star Wars had been done to death in vidya.

The Rogue Squadron and Battlefront series are probably the least offensive Legends vidya just because they're focus on specific John Smiths doing their very small but appreciated roles in the war.
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>>92378921
>>92378843
>>92378734
Its a edit
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Sheev didn't start the fire.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WqkjYKUXERQ
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>>92380329
>Though I don't see where K'Khruk could fit into things now.
They could do a SCP 682 deal with him, have him be overwhelmed with heavy fire in Order 66 before being put through decades of horror as a living regenerating test subject for the Empire's new weapons
It would explain why he's not around to train Luke, and why he would want to stay away from a new Jedi Order. He might believe in the Force but after 20 years strapped to a firing range I imagine he'd want to go off to some forgotten moon and just meditate for a long time
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>>92380330
Don't forget about that one game that gave Plo Koon force lightning because game mechanics and people took that way too seriously.

Like, personally, I think gameplay should always be separate from canon.

I'm surprised Republic Commando fans aren't sperging out about how Super Battle Droids should be huge, slow, hulking monsters that are super duper hard to kill.
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>>92380273
Canonically the only Jedi with yellow lightsabers are Temple Guards.
Yeah yeah, special honour and all that
But if they were as good as everyone else, they'd be Knights.
You don't keep your best back home watching shop.

Consider all the Jedi younglings in that one episode where they get their crystals.
All green or blue.
Not a single yellow.

That implies that yellow is "different" and since we see yellows in a weaker position (i.e. temple guards) that's what that "difference" is.
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>>92380451
Or he could just die like the thousands of Jedi around him
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>>92380504
Ventress managed to get her hands on a yellow saber for Dark Disciple.
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>>92380504
StarWarsExplained uploaded a video recently showing Pablo tweets saying that Yellow are rare but are found just like Green/Blue.

He didn't say what happened to those crystals, but I think its safe to say it's either;

>Youngling is taken to be trained as a Temple Guard

or

>Youngling keeps his rare crystal (much like Mace and his purple one) and the crystal is donated to be used by Temple Guards upon the Jedi's eventual death

No definitive explanation yet though. Or how Ventress got her one, but I suspect it was just stolen or bought on the black market.
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>>92380504
>be youngling
>hyped as fuck to get my crystal
>snow door opens
>run the fuck inside
>oh man i hear it
>break open ice trial
>THERE IT IS
>It's yellow
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>>92380557
Yeah that's by far and away the easiest and most likely route they'd go for, I was just trying to think of something a bit more interesting you could do with him
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>>92380628
>Oh wow! It's such an honour! You're suuuper special. Now wear this mask and stand in that corner. Forever
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>>92380610
>Yellow are rare but are found just like Green/Blue.
That could still mean that yellows are weaker Jedi and are only capable of being Guards rather than Knights
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>>92380677
Possibly. We just have to wait for official word, because right now it's just speculation.

Reminds me of Red Harvest (very eye-rolling Legends book, don't bother with it) where one "Jedi" is so shit that they literally just make her the temple gardener.
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>>92380576
>During this time, Ventress also acquired a new lightsaber with a yellow blade on the black market to replace her twin red sabers stolen by Offee.
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>>92379965
>>92380081
DELET
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>>92374563
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>>92380720
I want to know the story of the Temple Guard that was probably killed for that crystal.

Sounds like it could make for a good comic showdown.
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>>92380711
If Lucas didn't bork up the Prequel Jedi, gardener would be a totally respected position from what we see of Yoda in the OT
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>>92380451

That's probably too dark for nucanon, but I do like the idea.

>>92380711

It was actually a consistent legends thing that washout Jedi got sent to the Agricorps where they would spend their days being farmers and generally being passive until death.
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>>92380772
From what we can see, any Jedi position is just as respected as the next. Nothing was borked. Just because we mostly see them as warriors doesn't mean there's nothing else for them. We too see them as diplomats, medical specialists, librarians and so on.

What I'm more curious about are the civilian contractors and such that work for the Jedi that we see in the Temple bombing arc. They surprisingly didn't earn much but they must have seen things they could only call miraculous in there.
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>>92380772
I don't know, "Jedi Knight", "Weapon of a Jedi", and "Guardians of peace and Justice" are all OT quotes that heavily suggest that all of the Jedi were ready to defend against physical violence when necessary.

And yes I know there was very early BTS stuff where Lucas initially said that the "guru Jedi" like Yoda wouldn't fight much, but that was a long time ago, things change.

And even then, we only see Yoda fighting in the Clone Wars ONE time.

In his movie appearances, he is personally overseeing the Clones and other Jedi, and isn't shown actually fighting in the war. He only fights against the Sith Lords themselves, which should be absolutely understandable.

In TCW, he only fights against the CIS forces one time, which was only when he was forced to, in his travels to meet the Toydarian King and stop "negotiations" with Ventress.

So I think even today, it remains true that some Jedi don't partake in combat much. But every Jedi has to have a lightsaber, just in case. Tradition, and obtaining the crystal is a right of passage to even be a Jedi.
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>>92380901
>That's probably too dark for nucanon
Nucanon has the Empire explicitly commit genocide against the Geonosians, has introduced Rebels who fight like contemporary terrorists and even the mainstream Rebel Alliance has Generals fully willing to sanction illegal assassination missions
The nucanon can get plenty dark when it wants to, don't let the overwhelming flash of TFA tell you otherwise.
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>>92380997
Let's not forget Rogue One's mind rape and informant killing
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>>92380940
>But every Jedi has to have a lightsaber, just in case
This, its like the samurai the Jedi are at least partially based off of. Sure there were the full time feudal warriors, but there were plenty of other nobles who only wore the wakizashi for self defence
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>>92373610
/swco/ makes reddit look good
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>>92381060
Also that, yes. I think we can take "Rebels fighting like terrorists" and what you just said and combine that under a new umbrella header of "Saw Gerrera's entire deal" honestly, dude was a fucking paranoid nutjob with seemingly zero regard for civilian causalities
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>>92380940
Basically, 99% of the time, Jedi aren't getting into fights.

We're just seeing the few times that they do, because it's Star WARS.
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>>92380997
>>92381060
Or the literal Twi'lek whores in Lords of the Sith

Or this totally legal Twi'lek slave in the Aphra comic
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>>92380924
>>92380940
The Clone Wars did flesh things but I still think that Lucas made a mistake with his depiction of the Jedi in the Prequels.

Yeah, every Jedi should have a lightsaber, but I think it's more something symbolic or even metaphorical
As we see with Yoda in Empire, there's more than one way to be a great "warrior".
I always figured lightsabers were more like Sikh kirpans than standard issue weaponry.
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>>92378443
I'm 30 and married, anon.
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>>92381138
And the Clone Wars are literally like, the one point in the entire history of the Galaxy where a lot of Jedi were forced to fight in a war.
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>>92381117
Saw was obviously set up to be Rebel Vader. It's too bad we see so little of him.
And with Rebels cancelled, we'll only get a little bit more
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>>92381200
Yeah, I'm hoping that at the very least we see Saw's version of Mustafar, where he lost his legs and got poisoned by the pesticides that fucked up his lungs
I'm kind of hoping they play that scene as a relatively straight call back, complete with a rebel leaving him for dead. Ideally, Cassian, but I'll take anyone just walking away and leaving Saw to be rescued by Two-Tubes or something
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>>92381200
>Rebels cancelled

Cancelled means the show just abruptly stops with little warning, often in the middle of the story. Like The Clone Wars.

Rebels is merely ending, on its own terms.
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>>92381200
>Cancelled
*Ending

We're getting at least one more episode with Saw which is supposed to be leading right into Rogue One anyways, showing him unhinged and crazy.

I'm not sure what more you were hoping for, unless you was wanting the show to slow to a snails pace to cram in more stories.

Also Saw is in Rebel Rising quite a bit, read that.
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>>92381309
Cancelled means not renewed
It's hardly on its own terms when just a few weeks ago, they were talking about going for 7 seasons
It wasn't like Pablo called up Disney and as like "Hey guys, we're done here."
It was the other way around
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>>92381353
The only people who've mentioned 7 seasons is Freddie Prinze Jr, and he was saying they had 7 seasons worth of material, not a flat guarantee that it was going to be 7 seasons
Its like Clone Wars, they could have tried to keep that going on a smaller budget, but decided it was best to just leave it where it was, releasing what they had made for season 6 as well as the early animatics of other episodes.
Its no coincidence that the end of Rebels was announced around the same time Filoni started talking about a new animated series that LF is picking up. Clearly, as basically the head of LF's animation, he's decided its better to whole ass one show than half ass two
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>>92381353
Don't start this again.

FPJ said they had "7 seasons worth of stories". Much like how the Live Action show and TCW had multiple seasons worth of unseen stories. They just get re-purposed into other projects.

FPJ didn't even think they would use all of those stories either. He said they could if they wanted too, but he expected Filoni could end the show at Season 5.

Filoni himself said they ended the show how he wanted, it has a proper ending, the one he wanted from the very beginning. Yes the ending is coming a little earlier than even Freddie expected, but there is nothing to suggest it was out of Filoni's control, especially when Filoni is happily working on another project.

The Season 4 Trailer is even heavily constructed to be apparently the conclusion of the show. Compare to TCW Seasons 5 and 6 which had no such indication, and very much had abrupt, make-shit endings.

Animation has a very long production time. Lucasfilm is always 2-3 years ahead of us. Filoni is already proudly hard at work on a show that he claims is "Bigger than both TCW and Rebels," and the Rebels trailer is very, VERY clearly evoking an intended "grand finale", which would have had to be something decided literally years ago anon.

Those are his words. Unless you think he was lying, which would be ridiculous, considering how open he was about TCW being cancelled beyond his control.
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>>92380997
>>92381060
None of that was really "dark", though. Dirty sure, but dark? Dark, as it is used today, usually implies something painstakingly heavier - often unnecessarily so. It's honestly overrated in that people only want to inject it into things and in ways that make it feel like they're watching something that can and "should" be for grownups.

In reality, darkness should serve as some sort of object lesson for kids to learn from and thus take steps to avoid. It can take you to the worst places, but not without some possibility of turning away or coming back from it. Adults can only really comprehend darkness as something to explore and become enveloped in, resulting in one's coming out hardened, jaded and cynical. Very rarely are there any significant life lessons to take to heart for adults because they're at a point where events come and go to be grasped or let by.
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>>92381609
Ah, you mean "grimdark"
Yeah, thankfully nu canon has been avoiding that level of overwhelming bleakness so far. Some messed up shit happens but its not pointlessly crushing
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>>92381699
>Luke is a failure
>The new Republic is a joke
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>>92381609
You're not wrong, although I do still disagree about Canon avoiding such darkness.

They'll go there when the story works.

I still think the Umbara arc was a very genuinely dark storyline.

Was it necessary to show innocent Clones lined up for a firing squad? Or made to kill each other? Not really, but it fit the darker story they were telling for that arc.

Star Wars is for kids though, they're not going to do it for the sake of it.
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>>92381171
>As we see with Yoda in Empire, there's more than one way to be a great "warrior".

And as we see in the Prequels, The Clone Wars and Rebels, such is a lesson Yoda only learned and incorporated into his being fairly recently. Luke went to Yoda in search of a great warrior because Obi-Wan's story in ANH imparted upon him the image of great warriors, which is what the Jedi were portrayed as being in the Prequels much of the time because the story and situations they'd gotten into often demanded of it. But because of the collective experience mentioned previously, Yoda modestly presented himself as anything but.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=AhzTpGRwQFs
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>>92381751
Luke had twenty years of success, and twenty years in which he could have brought the subject up with Ben. Yes it sucks, but I fail to feel sorry for him when he could have just sucked it up and had an awkward conversation with his nephw

As for the New Republic, honestly it makes a lot more sense than just springing straight back to how the Republic used to run. Yes, the NR might be weak, but considering how it was only formed IN DIRECT RESPONSE to an overwhelmingly powerful central government that only makes sense
Everyone who built the New Republic, the majority of its old guard all fought against the Empire, against that central tyranny and want to make it impossible for one man to seize control ever again no matter what. Plus its worth remembering that the former members of the CIS who actually believed in seceding from the Republic are still very much around, so of course they'd fuck off and do their own thing the moment the Empire collapsed

Besides, a shitty situation is not a gimdark one. Grimdark would be Luke failing continually over the course of the twenty years through no fault of his own for example
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>>92381804
Basically, simply being a warrior isn't the single defining point of being a Jedi, but rather a part of it. The Prequels and the Clone Wars did not err in their depiction of the Jedi, because they literally show how they were literally forced to become nothing but warriors and how that ended up in their being consumed by the Dark Side which in the end drove them to extinction. Depictions in the Prequels were literally meant to act against the impressions people drummed up with the Originals. Because going with those impressions allows for an easier and honestly far too expected story.
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>>92378398
>Wow Jimmy, your mom let you have TWO mando tattoos?
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>>92378837
That is correct
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Is the Aphra comic just a way to lore dump?
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https://youtu.be/vP_1T4ilm8M
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>>92382466
Pretty much. At least it's a more creative way to do so than it coming up in an unrelated story line in other comics.
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>>92382466
Looking like it. Basically Indiana Jonesing the Old Republic era. Which honestly in hindsight is really the best way to go about it. They can continue with the current narrative while giving us bits and pieces of older lore, gradually becoming more comprehensive as time goes on. There won't have to be a frenzy of teams and writers all working in the same era at the same time simply for the sake of fleshing it out because it's there to be developed. Instead it develops as the need for such information becomes relevant.
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>>92382611
And it helps preserve the air of mystery about the whole era as well, instead of filling it out in painstaking detail we get an entire storyline based on the premise of figuring out the truth behind a long disputed mystery, complete with a brief discussion of the possible theories people have come up with over the centuries
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I'm curious, was a there any old Legends stuff detailing the Republic, Anakin, and the Clone Wars before the prequels?
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>>92382901
And by before the prequels, I meant before they were made, not the time period.
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>>92374632
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>>92382947

Only stuff that went into detail about the old republic were tales of the Jedi. Everything in the Clones War era was off limits per George's orders. Some authors like Zahn gave hints of what their interpretation of the Clone Wars was (Usually about evil armies of clones attacking the republic) but they couldn't lay down concrete details.
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>>92382901
>>92382947
No, that stuff was off-limits. All we really knew was bits from interviews and the novelizations of the films.

Well, besides the Thrawn trilogy which described completely different Clone Wars
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>>92383042
>(Usually about evil armies of clones attacking the republic)
Which makes a hell of a lot more sense than we got given the name
Who names wars after the people on their side?
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>>92382947
Nope. The majority of stuff was mostly just conjectural info on the Jedi and the Clone Wars put into novels and video games. Lucas put a gag order on anyone touching the Prequel Era before he did his work. So for a while the majority of stuff we got was based mostly in what we saw of the Jedi in the Originals - most principally that becoming a Force spirit was apparently quite commonplace for them.
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>>92383122
Both sides made use of clones. The Republic in the literal sense and the Confederacy in the figurative sense.
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>>92383122
The clones were a defining aspect of the war for the public of the Republic, even more so than the droids or the secessionist movement that started it.
Well, really it was the Jedi and the clones in concert that defined the war, but the Empire was hardly going to publicize the Jedi's contribution after the Jedi revealed themselves to be power hungry traitors to their own religion
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Is the old in-universe explanation for Mace's lightsaber still canon?
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>>92383122
That's the twist.
>EU says Clone Wars were faught against Evil Clones
>Movie is called Attack of the Clones
But then it turns out the clones are good guy proto-stormtroopers
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Do Inquisitors have orgies to keep up morale?
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>>92383295
No, they're dead.
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>>92383216
No. And honestly, it's not really a story worth telling in the long run.
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>>92383216
No. Neither is him using the dark side
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>>92383306
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>>92383216
What was it
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>>92383199
Even madalore used clones
Look >>92354292
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>>92377469
that's a cute Bariss, though.
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>>92382854
>>92382611
This opinion is the cancer killing star wars.
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>>92383662
What, saying that a vague and mysterious element of the galaxies history should remain vague and mysterious?
Or do you just miss the Old Republic stuff? Because its all still there, waiting for you to dive in and finally finish reading or watching or playing all of it.
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>>92383618
>Barriss
>ever not being cute

Heresy.
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>>92383762
>we will never find out what happened to her
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>>92383726
No that everything has to be related in an obvious hamfisted way is cancerous and killing creativity. I would rather a story set in an era and learn about it that way instead of learning of it through exposition in another "muh OT" comic series. I need new stories not the same story built up by small meaningless orbiting stories.
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>>92383790
Deep in my heart I know what happened to her.

She had super hot lesbo sex with Seventh Sister.
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>>92383878
How is Rur the same story, exactly? How is Aphra's side of the story the "same story" either, for that matter?
And its not related in a hamfisted way, its part of the story being created out of whole cloth, same as it was before.
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>>92383726
By this logic ESB's best scene is crap Because we all know who luke's father is. The time period can be vague and mysterious to the characters while being fleshed out for us.
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REBELS SEASON 1 VISUAL GUIDE
https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B1Ev0h6J50-NQjNYaEJRelpnQjg
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>>92383949
The "same" story o refer to is that of the movies. Aphra takes place when it does so it can use familiar characters and events. I would rather new characters and a new time and place.
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>>92383949
Rur is vitiate right?
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>>92383959
That's a fucking nonsense argument and you know it.
I'm not talking about shit that's covered by the movies or the stuff released connected to it, I'm talking about shit that happened literally thousands of years ago that has next to no direct impact on characters that people know unless they go deliberately searching for it
Going back a thousand years or more to get the full version of what happened to the Ordu Aspectu develops exactly nothing and no one because it all happened so long ago. Seeing how a character digs up that history, confronts not just the revelations about the past but also the impact of the quest for that knowledge has had on their life in the present connects that story, and helps build a world far better than just having the actual chain of events spoon fed to you
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>>92384029
Might I suggest the Poe Dameron comics then? Art's a bit wobbly in places but that's nothing out of the ordinary for the current Star Wars comics
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>>92384100
>ancient bad guy referenced
>ancient bad guy is literally a character directly from the EU other than Vitiate
>HOLY FUCKING SHIT GUYS VITIATE IS CANON THIS MEANS KOTOR IS CANON BASED JJ OMG
Every fucking time.
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>>92384100
I believe Rur is Rur
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>>92384100
>vitiate
Depends, did Vitiate spend most of his time as an immortal stuck as a data copy stored on a crystal, interspersed with possessing droids and using them to kill everything?
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KOTOR when?
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>>92384249
Rur isn't immortal. He clearly created a crazy AI based off himself that believed that it was the real Rur. The Eternal Rur is basically a crazy holocron. Rur was some guy who died thousands of years ago when that crazy holocron killed him to steal his identity.
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>>92384249
Bsclly yea
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>>92384161
Alrighty then go enjoy your remberberries. I'll be here waiting for something new.
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>>92383878
I am really glad that Lucasfilm disagrees with you.

Learning about the ancient eras in artifacts, ruins, legends and fables is infinitely more interesting than just showing it.

I don't care if Aphra's comic is set in the OT. It's fun, and very different to all of the movies and surrounding comics anyways.
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>>92384161
I want a magufin to force my waifu to develop by facing something from the past.

Fuck off
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>>92384330
The name change and omnicidal tendencies aside, I'd argue Rur and Eternal Rur are the same person. ER is a direct copy of the originals neural pattern after all, ER is basically a flash clone of Rur's brain carved into a crystal based computer network
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>>92384403
Would you rather there be no explored eras besides the OT?
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>>92384161
Aphra is literally spoon feeding you this lore. All i want is a story within that lore how is that nonsensical?
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>>92384414
>I want a forced revelation of parenthood to force my husbando to develop by facing something from their past

See, I can reduce plot points to the point of absurdity too?
>>92384375
Oh congratulations, you finally did what the other dickless coward is too frightened and just came out and admitted it!
You hate the new canon! And that is completely fine, and I am SO fucking proud of you for finally saying it
Now comes the difficult part where you pull on your big boy pants, grow the fuck up and learn to ignore people talking about it instead of trying to use the old EU's mere existence like a cudgel to attack people making new things!
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>>92384403
You Nufags are so obviously ignorant its astounding.
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>>92352541
Next thread should either be George Lucas birthday edition or Mother's Day edition
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>>92384519
>A dissenting opinion

Wahhhhhhh stop hating what i like.

Do you not realize you sound like a spastic baby?
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>>92384496
There is a story within that lore, if you actually read the comic book. The Jedi tried to make themselves immortal, and one day one of them succeeded, for a given value of success. This event is what convinces the Jedi to stop seeking immortality, and what ultimately leads to the Jedi missing out of on developing stuff like Force ghost techniques.
Watching a character piece together the story of what happened, discussing the theories other people have created to explain these events is a much more engaging version of that story than just "here's a comic about the Ordu Aspectu. You've literally never heard of any of these people before, they've never been mentioned or even hinted at in anything else in Star Wars, but here's this story anyway"
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>>92384422
But they are not. He is a clone. As his consciousness did not split nor transfer to the copy.

There's a reason this is a morality minefield.
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>>92384633
No i mean a seperate story. Not aphra. Aphra is fun like someone said Indiana jones in star wars. However i would like stories in other eras that have very little to do if anything at all with established characters.
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>>92384602
I don't start talking shit when people want to talk about Legends. I'm not fond of a lot of Legends stuff, but I just leave people to get on with it
You're the one who sees people talking about stuff they like in the nu-canon and throwing their teddies out of the cot, and when someone pushes back you start insulting them?
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>>92384403

>Learning about the ancient eras in artifacts, ruins, legends and fables is infinitely more interesting than just showing it.

How fucking dumb are you to actually think this?

even the dumber issues of Tales of the Jedi were infinitely more interesting than the shitpile Marvel's been churning out. Distance in time is irrelevant if you can succeed in writing interesting characters we want to follow.
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>>92384633
Are you the same guy who said a ordu comic would be spoon feeding? Because you just described how Aphra spoon fed you all that lore.
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>>92384683
But you just did in your previous post.
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>>92383964
Thank you for this
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>>92384682
Just sliding back thousands of years to fill in details with zero connection to anything else or any other characters?
Outside of some kind of in universe history text book I don't really see the market for it I'm afraid. Something completely unmoored would feel out of place in what's being crafted in the nu-canon at the moment, and its a bit too early in the canon creation process to be trying to establish a foothold to be expanded on later. Even the old EU took a few years before it started racing back thousands of years to find new ground
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>>92384682
>However i would like stories in other eras that have very little to do if anything at all with established characters.
Unfortunately you won't be getting anything like that in the coming years. Everything being released has some impact on the main overall storyline going on right now. Even things that seem stand-alone like the Lando comic aren't actually. Everything connects into something (a character, an action by a character, a planet, whatever) even if it's not one of the main characters from the OT.
The only way we'll see another era is if they can craft it to be "look at how history never really changes! These people fucked up (not as bad) as the current story line people did! Look at this one thing that actually influenced a lot in the main story line but they don't know it yet."
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>>92357007
>skinny girls with wide hips
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>>92384801
See also: Takes of the Jedi
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What's the over/under on Rey losing an arm in The Last Jedi?
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>>92384897
It'll be Kylo because Anakin pottery
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>>92384897
what if she loses her leg and kylo loses the other leg

then they both won't have a LEG to stand on

HAP
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Whoever makes the new thread make it George Lucas edition since it's his birthday
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>>92384727
THIS.
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>>92384590
Or, "Who doesn't want to be a mother?" Edition
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>>92384727
Gee, maybe I have an opinion that's just as valid as yours?

You're acting like they're never going to have old republic stories. Of fucking course they are, but actually building up intrigue in the OT-Era media is a good way to start.

>turning this into Canon vs EU bullshit

How mature
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>>92385240
Both of these are worthy, so we'll probably get something really UNworthy.
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George Lucas edition please.
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>>92353779
>Like how Gray Jedi don't make sense nor fit in the franchise..

But Disney's still going in the direction of "balance" between the Dark and Light sides of the Force.
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>>92385478
If they want to make a new group, or have the Jedi alter the code, then thats fine.

But as is right now, "Gray Jedi" is a contradiction of what being a Jedi even is, so until that changes, Gray Jedi will not be canon.

Also am not convinced Disney/Lucasfilm wants that at all, despite all the meme youtubers currently clinging to that theory for TLJ.

Especially with how Bendu was portrayed as a morally loose asshole.
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>>92385540

>Also am not convinced Disney/Lucasfilm wants that at all


>Mortis
>The father declares balance when the representation of the dark and the light are dead

>the third aftermath book
>baby Kylo has both light and dark

>TLJ trailer
>Luke wants to end the Jedi order

but that don't want to go grey
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>>92385540
>morally loose asshole.

He was extremely helpful to Kanan and Ezra until Kanan brought the war to his peaceful life and then insulted him when he didn't choose their side.
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>>92385730
you keep posting this gay gray nonsense every thread and it doesn't get any more believable
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The door to the new thread isn't opening
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>>92385898
I'm not that guy. I just think it's blatantly obvious they're pushing a middle ground thing.
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>>92385478
>>92385730
There's no reason to assume that the Order of Force Fence-sitters will take the best of both Jedi and Sith philosophies, instead of the worst of both sides.
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>>92385961
people think its blatantly obvious snoke is plagueis and a Kenobi movie is next on the list, that doesn't make them any less wrong and deluded
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>>92385240
>"Who doesn't want to be a mother?" Edition
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>>92385730
>Mortis
>The father declares balance when the representation of the dark and the light are dead
You're ignoring that things were balanced until The Son began trying to manipulate the situation and Anakin/Ahsoka/Obi-Wan
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>>92384999
>Rey losing her most attractive feature
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>>92385986
I never said anything about how it would turn out, just that it's a trend they've been heavily leaning towards.

DESU, to me being a grey just sounds like being a normal god damn person. It's always seemed a bit ridiculous that a force user's options are joining an order of Ghandis or becoming Super Hitler.

That's why I love it when Star Wars starts branching out into other groups of force users, like the Night Sisters
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