How is red sunlight a weakness for kyrptonians?

>>92348184
Does anyone IRL actually use "cow" as an insult?

Comic book writers have a very limited understanding of just about any scientific field.

>>92348184
It's a comic book no one cares

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>>92348233
Only the coolest people.

>>92348184
I wouldn't say insta-drain, the way I see it it fucks with his body's ability to make use of the yellow sunlight that's stored in his body.

>>92348184
It's fiction and the writers have determined that this is the case.

>>92348402
>>92348233
>>92348237

But by every writer reinforcing that Krypton is a heavy gravity planet and than his suit is a paper thin kryptonian, it makes it to wear the red sun gimmick is relatively moot unless he is facing Darkseid or Doomsday

>>92348184
>So red sunlight essentially insta-drains all the yellow sunlight energy that superman absorbs
No, fission radiation does that. Red Sunlight just makes him normal because Krypton had a red sun.

>>92348184
>On top of that, Kryptonians are heavy gravity (x33) compared to Earth, so his body would grow biologically to accommodate tissue, muscles, and bone density able to endure a constant force of x33 times earth's gravity, which is way more than any criminal or martial artist can punch.
gravity resistance isn't the same thing as as bullet-proof.

Likewise, unbreakable cloth doesn't cover face, nor it means the cloth itself couldn't pierce the body

Also, most enemies of Superman are able to deal damages much greater than "puny" 33G

His body starts absorbing red sunlight. His body can only hold so much sunlight at once, so the red starts naturally pushing out the yellow. (and probably absorbs a hell of a lot faster)

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>>92348184
Did you forget that there's colors of Kryptonite that turns him into animals, and that there's a type of sun in the universe that grants humans Superman-tier powers and makes Kryptonians basically human?

There's Kryptonite that splits someone into a good twin and a bad twin, a Kryptonite that turns people gay, a Kryptonite that gives people psychic powers, and so on.

>>92348847
Congratulations, you just discovered that comics don't hold up to scrutiny from most perspectives.

>why isn't fiction real?
Who gives a fuck? This is like wondering how Wolverine can rotate his radius when his claws are retracted. He just can, and red sunlight just affects Superman in the way (and intensity) that it does.

>>92348233
English people

>>92348184
I feel like red sunlight shouldn't harm Superman. Just cut him off from solar energy. So he should still have his internal stores of solar energy left which he'd have to ration until the situation is retored.

>>92349145
Depending on the author, it does.
Except that, by virtue of Red Sunlight being "natural" to Kryptonians, his body FIRST processes the new red light, THEN once it runs out it starts to process the yellow sunlight reserves

>>92348847
>every writer reinforcing that Krypton is a heavy gravity planet
This is inconsistent at best though.

>>92348237
Honestly, it could sorta work. I mean it depends on how the body processes light. It could absorb some types of wavelengths but not others. The way it and kyptonite is explained is retarded though.

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>>92348981
And let's not forget magic-infused kryptonite (aka "Magic K") that makes Kryptonians stoned as fuck.

>>92348946
The average 40MPH car crash (against a static wall) is about 270000 Newtons. Passively without exerting any force, Superman's body can shake off 325 Newtons.

Average Boxer punch is 5000 Newtons, x 33 means that superman can punch with a force off 165000 Newtons. That is to say a punch for superman without powers would be like getting hit by a car driving at 20MPH.

>>92348973
Doesn't change that this biology, even with out any sunlight at all, is still extremely durable and powerful.

>>92349459
Name one who hasn't. Every single time they go through the Krypton origin they either never mention the massive gravity to explicitly reinforce the x33 lore.

>>92349145
>>92349396

But none of that matters, because all the villains he has ever fought under a red sun (weak "peak humans") should have still not been able to hurt him at all given his natural biological durability and strength.

>>92349544
Even when growing up under 33x Earth gravity, in no way does that imply you'd be 33x as strong or 33x as durable.

It does mean that there's literally no way your species would evolve into something humanoid.

>>92348184
Comic book science man
Best use of red sunlight is when it basically just stops his body from powering up. Basically the equivalent of pulling the charging plug on a laptop. He can still use his powers for a while but the more he does so the quicker it wears off

>>92349615
You body has to be able to mvoe around, function, and not be burdened by x33 times the gravitational force put on your body and be able to pick up things with equivalent force adding to their relative "weight."

So yes, you would be x33 strong. If you took a human to kypton they would die instantly as their weak bones wouldn't be able to endure it and just sink onto the floor unable to move.

Even if you put a human in a gravity suit that would compensate for this, they would struggle to even dribble or pass a basketball from krypton because it would weigh 33 fucking pounds!

>>92349654
his base form is still pretty fucking powerful by Earth standards.

Peak humans like Steve Rogers wouldn't be able to touch him still, he would be up there with the likes of The Thing just in a normal Kryptonian body

>>92349738
At that point you wouldnt survive just because your heart can't pump blood upwards in that gravity. Even 2-3x gravity would cause coronary problems.

>>92349738
Except that's retarded. Yes, they would need stronger muscles and bone structure (among other things) to live, but that doesn't translate into 33x punching strength or the ability to withstand impacts 33x as strong. Gravity isn't a punch.

Rather than being a Superman with super strength and invulnerability, Kryptonians would simply evolve into something completely different. There's no way something shaped exactly like a human could live under 33G, they wouldn't even be bipedal. Assuming higher life forms could evolve on such a planet at all, Kryptonians would more likely look similar to earth Crocodiles. Flat bodies with short but powerful limbs.

Not even is your reasoning completely wrong, you're missing the point that using reason is pointless when dealing with a character that is fundamentally unreasonable.

>>92349901

Ok so on Krypton they have to not only be able to endure x33 times gravity, but their bodies would have to accommodate that for lifting things outside themselves.

So their bodies are used to having to pick up basketballs that weigh 33 pounds leisurely.

So if a kryptonian male works out and lifts say, the equivalent of 100 pounds on Earth, he would be training his body to lift 3200 pounds over and over.

So no matter where he goes relative to the gravity, his body is trained for lifting 3200 pounds. So calculate that into the output of strength, and yet, he is punching at x33 gravity

>doesn't translate into the ability to withstand impacts 33x as strong

His body is literally made to withstand a constant force downward against it x33 times what we are used to. that obviously translate into that.

>There's no way something shaped exactly like a human could live under 33G

>Microorganisms on the planet eventually appear and form cells that are strong enough to endure the gravity

>Evolution eventually goes the way of humans

done.

>>92348184
I always thought that the red solar radiation was absorbed by his cells in the same way that yellow solar radiation, but it took priority over the yellow radiation so that was all expelled, removing his powers

As a physics undergrad I can say that there is no scientific basis, but superman can't work within our current understanding of physics

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>>92350071
There are so many things about this post that are completely fucking retarded that I don't even know where to start.

>>92348184
Won the war with Kryptonians? Man, this idiot just left the door open for people like Mongul to flood the Earth.

>>92348184

His suit isn't untearable.

Even nu52 cape, which as a plot point was indestructable, got torn by a powerless Clark trying to hold on to it when the fortress wouldn't recognize him as kryptonian anymore, and he used the rags as knuckle dusters.

The high gravity things ain't canon either. And he was raised here, so hendidnt have a chance to develop that way, by kryptonian terms he'd be atrophied.

>>92350656
Sam and Lucy Lane had gone full-on supervillain before the reboot.

>>92348184
writers are very inconsistent with red sunllight.
-If you make a trap or raygun with red sunlight is insta-drain
-if superman is stranded in a planet with red sun he get hours or days until he is drained.
-if he is drained of yellow sunlight he sometimes get insta-filled with few rays (like birman) and sometimes needs a lot of time (like in one year later)
- same thing happen with kryptonite and magic.

- for me should not exist the insta-drain or insta-fill but DC should get his shit together and make a definitive statement (and editor should endorse it).
- with magic I prefer the buziek kind of approach

>>92352173
>>-If you make a trap or raygun with red sunlight is insta-drain
>-if superman is stranded in a planet with red sun he get hours or days until he is drained.
well, this can make sense: a trap\ray-gun would emit a greater amount\concentration\wattage or red sunlight compared to what he'd get on a planet.

>>92348184
gravity levels on Krypton don't matter, Kent grew up in pleb gravity so he gets pleb natural gains. As for other Kryptonians, it doesn't matter what environment you grew up in if you spend extended amounts in low g, it impacts your ability to return to "high" gravity environments (see real life astronauts...)

see, this is what happens when you de-fund public schools.

>>92349544
The Red Sunlight weakens the rest of his body when absorbed.

>>92348184
Comic book science

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>>92348184

Is blue sunlight a supercharge for Kryptonians?

Would a fight with Cobra cause a Kryptonian to be stronger than he began?