ITT: Weird early episode stuff

>>92326308
Spongebob season 1 is a lot more moralistic.

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>that episode where Homer was the responsible one in the family

>>92326308
wtf

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>>92326356

>>92326356
>>92326903
Great reaction images

There's that episode of TaleSpin with the bitchy parrot where Kit and Karnage are strangers to each other when the pilot episode hinges on them having history.

>>92326710
>That episode where Homer drove to a bridge and was seriously about to jump off and kill himself in a wholly non-comedic scene.
>It was the third episode.

>>92326356
>>92326903

This was before Mandy became the spawn of Satan.

The weird creatures the Crystal Gems fought in early episodes that weren't corrupted gems, like the crystal shrimps.

>>92326935
Delet this!

Terrance & Phillip being cartoon characters originally.

>>92326935
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This and Cosmo having average intelligence (as well as that suave game show host voice).

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His last name used to be Williams.

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>Brown hair

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There have been cases where a show briefly "returns" to early installment weirdness, due to executive fuckery and episodes airing out of order.

Take for example pre-cancellation Family Guy. Season 3 is when the animation starts to get less cartoony and more refined (some would say stiffer), Stewie starts to move on to other things than killing Lois, the "sappy morals" from s1-2 start to be phased out, etc.

Then you get to s3's Christmas special and it's like a jarring throwback; the animation is back to being more loose, Lois' voice is slower, Peter's voice is deeper, all of the characters have big pupils and look like they're stoned, backgrounds are cruder, Stewie is obsessed with killing Lois again, the cheesy morals are back, etc. Of course, this is because the episode was a holdover from early season 2.

>>92327372
right?

The whole first season of Metalocalypse, in the larger frame of the plot and character development is just fucking bizarre.

>>92326308
Moral Orel started out as a highly "fantastic" series, with events like raising the dead in the first episode. After the first few episodes it stopped doing things that were "fantastic" and went for a more realistic approach. Both of them were fine, but just fucking try to watch one of the first episodes in the middle of watching season 3 and it's insanely different.

the first time you see smithers in the simpsons he's black
but then he's white after that

>>92327412
And then there was the episode Back to the Pilot, which had Stewie and Brian revisiting the pilot episode, so we got to see modern Stewie interacting with pilot episode Stewie and stuff like that. I thought it was pretty neat. They point out how Stewie used to be so obsessed with killing Lois, how his voice sounded a bit different, and how he used a lot of long, complex words to sound smart.

>>92326935
Did the current Garfield kill and replace the old one?

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Maybe I'm just used to Season 2 on, but Sarah looks and acts almost completely different after season 1.

>>92327786
In season 1 she legit loved her husband, come season 2 she's unhappy her husband's such a pussy, come season 3 she's back to somewhat loving her husband and I don't think she appeared at all in season 4. I think she was whatever they needed her to be for the episode Kinda like how sometimes Rily had some hidden talents and other times the boy was so dumb he couldn't even write his name.

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She seemed pretty normal in the first episode.

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>>92327294
>ywn forget your first "why boner".

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>>92327411
Hmm

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Cheeter.

>>92327294
Motherfucker got me into futa.

Early PPG episodes had a Powerpuff signal instead of the phone.

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Dino could talk in his first Flintstones appearance

>>92327951
I wouldn't call this weird as the entire character was meant to evolve and mature over the course of Beast Wars/Machines

>>92327411
>that early episode where Lois called her Debbie

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>>92328313
Courage spoke a lot more in the pilot episode.

>>92327842
She appeared in Season 4 in that Chris Brown parody episode and was a drunken harlot.

>>92328473
No, they were literally referring to him as "Cheeter" instead of Cheetor. I didn't misspell an intent to convey a rule breaking nature in an immature character.

>>92326935
that second panel is eerily similar to those smug NEET pepe images

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Jack seems to be a lot more cunning and focused in these episodes.

>>92328544
Isn't the pilot episode the one with the chicken where nobody talked?

>>92328906
Oh, I think I got that confused with the Duck Brothers episode, what with them both involving birds from space. I guess he just spoke more often in the first season or something.

>>92326356
>>92326903
>"Let's make an episode where her smiling would rip reality!"
>Kids watching reruns 4 times a day: "But... she smiled before."

>>92328857

It's also the only time he fights like a real samurai, using spears and bows on horseback while wearing armor

>>92329190
I think he likes speaking more with creatures his size and kind, or maybe that's just wrong.

>>92326710
Homer was the responsible dad in early episodes, he may be dumb, but he wants what's best for his family

>>92326935
I used to love mondays when I was NEET too. Mondays are only shit when you're a wageslave.

>>92329190
He did, I watched it recently. It was so weird

>>92328544
>>92328906
>>92329190
>>92329271
>>92329366
Courage basically not speaking after the first season all but ruined the show for me.

>>92329260
I've heard that even Genndy had complained a bit that he wasn't doing enough actual samurai action in some episodes so they had to do a careful mix between samurai swordfighting and chinese martial arts which one of the animators was really into

>>92329254
Smug smirk=/=smile

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>>92329254
>Make an entire episode about Mandy having to smile.
>Doesn't even fully show her smiling at the end.

>>92327411
>>92327412
hivemind?

>>92329545
but katana's weren't actually samurai's primary weapons in war

>>92326710
That was probably because the show wasn't really really sure what it thought it was at that point. The first couple season were really generic. It wasn't sure if it wanted to be like the other sitcom family shows or something more.

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>frail, weak and slow but wise old man that needs a magic talisman to simplely being able to eat cheese and walk with his back straight at the first episodes
>neurastenic old man, martial and magical arts master, highly cunning and prone to fight physically and mentally against evil forces and kicking dudes much larger than him meters ahead with ease , speaking catchfrases all the time and suffering no pain at all at the second season.

>>92329260
>>92330156
Well yeah. He's not actually fighting a war. More like a bunch of impromptu fights. Samurai didn't carry around spears and bows everywhere they went. Swords were basically their sidearms. It's not something you use on the front lines but a samurai was more likely to have a sword on him at any given time than he was a spear or bow.

>>92330201
>first couple season
?? The show found it's footing in season 2. Homer's immediate voice change showed that.

>>92326356
>>92326903
https://youtu.be/CpFdP5yATw0

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Hey Arnold

>season 1, shit ton of boarders
>season 2, Mr. Hyuhn, Earnie, Oscar amd his wife

Its weird how they wrote off so many characters... including the woman who wanted Arnold

>>92327842
I'd argue that she always loved Tom throughout the seasons, but wished that he would just loosen up a bit and be more assertive. Given said husband was straight laced and uptight, I can't really blame her.

>>92326710
Folding Ideas explained it best: Homer is supposed to be an exaggeration of father figures in television. It's just that father figures in TV went from Father Knows Best, to down on his luck and working a dead end job, to complete moron.

>>92329544
>Courage basically not speaking after the first season all but ruined the show for me.
didn't ruin the show for me, but I definitely wasn't a fan of it, basically caused Courage to be a really flat character in many episodes

>>92330340
I like to think that Uncle using the Dog Talisman had some long term effects on him

>>92330460

I want to know who Mr. Smith really was

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>>92327903
They made a toy of this for a sdcc

>>92330460
Must have been tough times

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BU

Just look at the Simpsons arcade game.

Marge has bunny ears hidden under her hair, Lisa is 7 instead of 8, Smithers is an outright villain, Sideshow Bob is a good guy, etc.

>>92330918
>Smithers is an outright villain
Is he not?

>>92327411
>>92327903
... Is this a JoJo reference?

>>92328544
He only had one line at the end of the episode.

>>92330340
Didn't he start doing less in Seasons 4 and 5?

>>92331084
there are no canon colors in family guy

>>92331082
Smithers, not MrBurns. That's their beef.

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>>92326935

>>92326935
What the fuck is this FILTH?

>>92326308
Also in the pilot Eddy called Doubled D Edd

>>92331082
Smithers was against Burns' plans to steal candy from babies and block out the sun, but current Smithers would probably go along with anything Burns wants to do.

>>92326935
>all these Garfield casuals who don't know the lore
He loves Monday mornings. He hates Mondays because he always has terrible luck and bad things happen to him on them.

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>>92326308
well, it's a comic (albeit one with an animated adaptation), but...

>>92327294
DEXTER'S RUNNING AROUND IN HIS UNDERPANTS
UNDERPANTS
UNDERPANTS

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>>92326935

>>92327372
>>92327404
Why do cartoons do this? Is there a name for this trope?

>>92326710

Speaking of The Simpsons, remember when Smithers was black?

>>92327245
Wasn't she always kind of like that, but the way it was presented was different? In early seasons it was more of an afterthought in a way and more comical. In later seasons it was pretty much her defining characteristic.

>>92333032
Already brought up.
>>92327480

>>92326935

>wakey wakey waggie!

>>92332992
People like Charlie Brown

>>92330762
Budokai Tenkaichi 3 had early anime colors Vegeta as an alternate outfit too

>>92326308
I was thinking about this the other day and how weird it was

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Betty Boop used to be an anthropomorphic dog.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79tIpX8Tnl0

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>>92332992
I wager partially it's referential to previous instances also it's just in general a case of "this character isn't actually important. This is a prop that thinks it's a character." Also sometimes it just works better if the character is faceless.
>>92327859
Yeah Early Cheryl was more just kind of just a thirsty cry for attention but not totally detached from reality just doing weird shit in a futile attempt to feel whole. Similarly Pam was the dorky Human Resources Manager concerned with proper workplace etiquette who Archer could beat up with her conflict resolution dolls by the middle of Season 2 she had no manners and could kill multiple men with her bare hands.

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>>92327903
Kinda seems the case of adapting the manga into a anime. Marco in One Piece is a result of appearing as a obscure background character.

>>92333255
>Yeah Early Cheryl was more just kind of just a thirsty cry for attention but not totally detached from reality just doing weird shit in a futile attempt to feel whole. Similarly Pam was the dorky Human Resources Manager concerned with proper workplace etiquette who Archer could beat up with her conflict resolution dolls by the middle of Season 2 she had no manners and could kill multiple men with her bare hands.

Both of those characters transitioned into their zany flanderized forms almost instantly. This was not a gradual transition.

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tommy's orange shirt

>>92329544
Courage was good all the way until it ended but yeah there's a story behind that.

the network stepped in and asked for Courage to talk less. It starts right into Season 2. Personally I think they gutted him but the show retained quality. His actor confirmed it and I think Dil said something about it too

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Not specifically /co/, I know, but early Pokemon episodes did some really weird shit.

>>92333554
A big one for me is the episode where Brock mentions the story of Noah. How the fuck does the bible exist in this world?

>>92333572
4kids?

>>92333572
Coulda had 2 of every pokemon instead or something

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>>92333572
Remember when Misty tried to perform an exorcism on that talking Ghastly?
I guess Christianity somehow exists here.

Early Rocko's Modern life being just exaggerated versions of everyday stuff.

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A change so shitty they have a episode explaining it in a later season.

>>92333255
I don't care what anyone says, mammy was awesome.

>>92333554
Considering it set the canon for the entirety of the franchise because Satoshi was stupid enough to wish on a motherfucking Ho-oh to NEVER win and always continue questing with Pikachu, and that Rhydons can get electrocuted through their horns, and that Pikachu can learn Mach Punch, the whole original series did a bunch of weird shit.

>>92333554
I remember they had guns.

>>92333554
>>92333572
>Ho-Oh appears in the first episode before G/S were even being developed
>Arcanine is with the legendary birds on the stone tablet
>said tablet is never brought up again
>Misty finds Togepi's egg in the first season
>Gary brags he has 10 gym badges
>Venastoise

>>92333196
I could never find any incarnation of Betty Boop attractive because of her bread-shaped flesh loaf of a head.

>>92333829
>Gary brags he has 10 gym badges
Ok this one is explained in the Manga I believe. Each region has more than 8 gyms, but you only need 8 to get into Indigo Plateau. Gary is just an overachiever.

>>92333615
i loved his stupid dracula voice

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>>92333957
Mickey didn't fuckin play

>>92326356
DELETE THIS

>>92330618
>>92333477
At least they found a loophole and made the computer talk.

>>92333554
It's small but the best image I can find right now

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>>92334234
I'm a dumbass

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The squiggly line and wonkier animation of the first episode of Doug really sticks out like a sore thumb.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vl1uFDiDoQc

Remember when Wile E. Coyote spoke and pursued Bugs instead of Road Runner?

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This pilot was drastically different than what came out as the final product. Does that count?

>>92330460
Only extra borders I saw were the paedo woman, Mr. Smith, and the guy with the chicken. Otherwise it was always the Hyunh/Ernie/Oscar trio.

>>92333829
>>Ho-Oh appears in the first episode before G/S were even being developed
>Misty finds Togepi's egg in the first season
A lot of second gen Pokemon were made along side 1st gen ones. They couldn't add them all because of hardware limitations or just wanting to cut down on the number of pokemon.
Also I think it was Ash who found Togepi's egg, Rocket stole it, they had a small tournament for the egg, and when it hatched it saw misty first even though Ash won the tournament for the egg

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>>92334307
I wonder if it would have still had the off model problem if it looked like that.

>>92327444
Yea you're totally right about that.
Still super great though.
Also checked mate

>>92334307
pearl looks like a femboy

it's nice

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>>92334259
A lot of squigglevision shows abandoned it or toned it way down after realizing it was more work for an uglier product.

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>>92330201
>The first couple season were really generic
The first couple of seasons were more varied and nuanced and expressive and different than the rest of the series. It was so far from a generic sitcom, it was a satirical drama.

Later it became an absurdist sitcom.

>>92334390
Doug was hand-drawn, had nothing to do with Squigglevision.

>>92333572
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>>92333615
Speaking of 4Kids, the first episode with Brock had an instance of them actually ADDING a death, albeit in passing. Brock's mom originally passed away in the dub, but that change came back to bite them in the ass when his mom showed up in the anime. Looking back, it's really odd how loose 4Kids was in its early days.

>>92334283
Honestly i did like it when later on he'd sometime be friendly with Bugs/be just like a less successful version of Bugs.

>>92334364
Oh definitely
And not only that, but the budget would also have to be used to tighten up on episodes
which might not have actually been a bad thing if it meant less filler

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>>92326356
>>92326903

>>92334393
Season one was very unfocused tonally. You'd have an episode showing Lisa and Marge dealing with a very stark depiction of chronic depression with a goofy B-plot about Homer trying to beat Bart at a video game. You had Bart severely neglected and forced to drink drain cleaner on an exchange trip to France, where a few episodes earlier he was waging a Rugrats-style war against Nelson with water balloons, then a few episodes later Marge would be seriously contemplating having an affair, then two episodes later it's Home Alone children-foil-bandit shenanigans. It seemed like every episode of season one was targeting a different demographic. The producers themselves say that back then, shows took so long to make that you couldn't really get a feel for the end product until the whole season was almost done, so the whole first season of a show functioned as a pilot, more or less.

Season two had a better identity, but was very, very saccharine by the show's later standards. About half of the episodes end with a big swelling music sting over Marge and Homer talking in bed, or declaring their love for one another. Not bad, and a few episodes still hit very hard emotionally, but it is definitely overdone by season's end.

Season three is where they started to nail it, where the majority of episodes didn't try for an emotional impact, instead focusing on sociel commentary (which had been there from the start, but didn't get to be a focus until around this point), meaning the few episodes that went for an emotional angle hit harder.

>>92327412
Supervillain Stewie > Gay Stewie

>>92334283
His earliest appearances are with roadrunner and are his most iconic, it's only a few years later that they paired him up with Bugs, so it doesn't really fit the thread. Loved these cartoons though.

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Absolutely everything about this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vrzOArsZgrk

>>92332515
Oh... my sweet babboo.

>>92330378
>Samurai didn't carry around spears and bows everywhere they went
They did actually
Swords were ceremonial and only used in the either duels or if left with no other option.

>>92333887
But that's what makes her so cute.

>>92333554
The first game had a dog that was just sorta... there.

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>>92334390
But it works so well with Ed, Edd n' Eddy.

>>92330378
Samurai carried bows all the time, jackass.

>>92334509
Good post

This the opposite of the meaning of the thread but it always weirded me how in the latest seasons of EEnE they start showing arms and silhouettes of other people outside the 12 characters. The most bizarre and surreal moment is when the Eds get grabbed by the arms of their parents(and apparently the adults in this show are 4 times bigger than the kids)

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>>92327294
>>92327889
oh god i remember talking about this episode all the time to my family, saying its my "favorite"

First 3 seasons of american dad were basicly family guy with shitty political humor. Then the writers stopped giving a shit, and did episodes like the one where Steve and Snot meet their future selves

>>92330460
Mr. Smith probably had to move to another city since those fucking kids kept trying to blow his cover.

>>92334798
First episode of American Dad had cutaway gags.

>>92333907
Are you talking about Pokemon Special? There were only 8 badges in that.

>>92334056
the part with the motor falling out of a plane he made has awakened a really early memory I have

>>92334856
I think he meant Electric Tale of Pikachu, which had a lot of similarities to the anime(but also some differences like Ash catching that Fearow from the first episode instead of catching Pidgeotto later)

>>92334283
that was a later short actually

>>92334407
Weren't there a bunch of plotholes for One Piece? Maybe Yugioh too.

>>92333829
Arcanine was a result of poor communication between GF and the studio I think, considering Arcanines description in the Pokedex had it as "Legendary Pokemon".

Also thinking about it, things like Lapras, Eevee and Mr Mime were technically one time only Pokemon as well in RBY, since breeding didn't exist.

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>>92334307
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>>92335022

4Kids skipped Laboon and Little Garden. The former wouldn't have come into play for a long time but skipping Little Gardsn meant that Mr. 3 just showed up out of nowhere and without a partner.

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I always found it strange that Zim had a stereotypical UFO in the pilot.

>"Attack of the Saucer Morons"
>What is that... thing on your head?

>>92333957
>suicide mouse story board.jpg

>>92335195
The connection Laboon has to Brook after so long is weird unless you know that Brook was like the 4th character Oda designed.

>>92334586
Today I found out where the "this some nasty ass coffee I hate u so much" meme came from

>>92326935
This feels so ... wrong

>>92335022
4kids yugioh had a few plotholes.

Dr Zoidberg used to be a wealthy, respected member of the Planet Express Crew but now he's piss poor and everyone hates him

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>>92328544
he doesn't shut the fuck up in the cajun granny stew episode

>>92330460
>including the woman who wanted Arnold
that's a cartoon urban legend

>>92334343
Not only that but, and correct me on this if I'm wrong, by the time the anime got to america japan was already gearing up for gen 2 right? Meaning we had to wait 2 years before we even knew Ho-oh in the year 2000.

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>>92326308
It's hard to point to anything in particular, but the direction of this show did a 180 about halfway through the first season.

>>92336113
The anime was a mess before 4kids got to it. It skipped a big part of the manga, then tried to awkwardly work the skipped plot points back in. The first episode is just surreal.

>>92327480
it was an animation error
blatantly obviously and officially

>>92333601
Or one of every Pokemon and a Ditto

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Surprised nobody has mentioned how different Rick is in the pilot. He's much less lucid, and you see sides of him that no longer come out, like him running in fear from a monster. They also go off model with him in some ways that you don't see anymore.

They kind of brought this Rick back in the premiere at the end though. Hope to see more of that.

>>92327449
>tfw Orel is canonically a rapist and a killer

>>92328115
>hypnosis
>traps
>feminization
>mind break
>humiliation
>bestiality
>analingus

name me a more /d/ related episode of anything

>>92333957

Who walks around with empty balloons in the chance they might just find some free gas?

Remember when Gumball wasnt an asshole?

>>92330460
I always figured Mr. Smith was still there, but no one bothered him.

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The first season of adventure time, and especially the pilot had almost an ENTIRELY different tone than later seasons. Just looking back at Marceline's debut episode feels completely different than anything that came after.

>>92338870
OH MARCELINE

>>92338677
It's still the best episode of Rick and Morty to me. The show has gone so far up its own ass now that it is hard to enjoy.

>>92327028
He didn't drive. He chained a big rock to his leg and walked.

>>92338870
I think it had to do a lot with Finn actually growing up along with his voice actor. So thats why the tone changed up dramatically because Finn was also changing and growing older.

>>92333554
The Ho-Oh thing baffled me so much as a kid. It blew my mind when I saw his game cover all those years later.

>>92334518
>Gay Stewie
dumbest shit ever

>>92334745
>they start showing arms and silhouettes of other people outside the 12 characters.
aside from the example you gave, what else? was the movie the only other time with the bus?

>>92338951
WHY ARE YOU SO MEAN??

>>92335152
ok but that logo is just a real life UTZ brand, i know you're joking but in case anyone starts thinking dumb theories

also utz brands are strong as fuck compared to lays or whatever, like UTZ and Lays salt and vinegar are extremely different in power

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>>92338951
>>92338870

>>92335326
fuck that small gag makes me cringe, or maybe it's another emotion, it just gives me weird vibes because of how everything looks and is executed in the span of a few seconds

>>92338870
Seasons 1-2 were amazing, season 3 was where the tone started shifting and by S4 AT had completed it's evolution and settled down on a specific art-style (a pretty boring one, though).

>>92337116
There's a nice lewd based on that episode. Made me realize Muriel can be attractive if drawn a certain way without overfocusing on wrinkles

>>92338951
WHY YOU SO MEAN?

>>92339077
holy shit I didn't realize how much she drastically changed. why did they ruin best girl?

>>92327786
God I was so into Sarah

>>92338843
Remember when most jokes weren't the "and i've been saying this for so long that i lost my point so i'm just going to drift off--" gag? Fucking sucks and I hate that they do it

>>92339147
you would be you C U C K.

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>>92339111
I really hate that we don't get cool designs like this anymore.

>>92339180
The art style is still the same they just don't draw exaggerated creepiness that often.

>>92339075
Utz is the best chip brand.

Also if SU is supposed to take place in "Delmarva" Utz would be the choice for chips

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>>92338951
>>92339053
>>92339128
>Tfw I remember watching a trailer for AT in the summer so many years ago while watching Dairy of a Wimpy Kid in theaters with my cousins.
>tfw I was so excited for it afterward
>Hadn't been hyped for a cartoon in a while because CN Real had killed off most of the good ones
>Watched the pilot episode about the Candy Citizen zombies and Ricardio the night they premiered.
>tfw I stopped watching the show years ago after losing interest
>tfw AT is ending now
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQho08vMqF8

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Why did they just completely drop this character after one episode? Like donny the grass ogre and quite possibly a few other characters.

>>92338870
They also had a lot more songs if I remember correctly.

>>92338449
I looked this up because I was interested, this is what I found:
Smithers was partly based on how numerous Fox executives and staff members acted towards Barry Diller.[13] The idea for Smithers' orientation was pitched by Sam Simon, who proposed that Smithers should be gay, but the writers should never draw too much attention to it and should try to keep it in the back of their heads.[14] Jay Kogen said "Originally he was gay and black...But we thought it was too much so we just kept him gay."

>>92339239
>a trailer for AT in the summer so many years ago while watching Dairy of a Wimpy Kid in theaters
I fucking hate that I never get to see my favorite cartoons on the big screen, GF had a trailer during I think wreck it ralph or something else, Regular Show's movie had special screenings in LA, and AT had a trailer during a wimpy kid release. Fuck

>>92337535
Correct. The 2nd generation games came out in Japan in 99 and the show started airing in America in 98. There was a ton of promotional material for the 2nd gen games in Japan when the show started airing in America.

>>92339292
>Regular Show's movie had special screenings in LA
and in texas, and the finale in LA

>>92338870

The very first pilot episode is the best and the show doesn't compare

>>92330918
Lisa was 7 until Stark Raving Dad when she has her eighth birthday.

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This character used to be likeable.

>>92339292
I think it was this one, but edited with the relative information to when it was coming to CN at the time in the theaters.
I remember instantly loving Marceline when I saw her dancing in the fire and riding those gold fish.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pp6CK6f80rs

>>92339246

I remember when all the furries had him as an avatar

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>>92339379
>Pilot
>chill as fuck
>bro as fuck
>genuinely upset and scared when he might be left at the Foster home
>all around cool guy

>Post Pilot
>literally every episode requires him to be an insufferable dick in order for the show to work
>everything that goes wrong is his fault
>he doesn't care, never learns his lesson

Even as a Kid, I found this to be fucking weird and a load of horse shit.

>>92339404
ofc but despite the irritating fandom the character himself seemed pretty neat.

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I know a lot of people assert that season 1 looked better than the current seasons, but god, having both Gumball and Darwin as huge goody two shoes makes the first season really hard to go back to. Outside of looking really great they REALLY played it safe. By season 2 the writing got an overhaul and that's when the show started holding my interest more.

>>92339423
By season 3 I was wondering why Mac even still wanted him.

>>92339379
Weird, I hate Bloo but I like Rigby, what was their difference? They were both the shitty sidekick main that ruined everything and made the plot exist, but I don't know why I hate Bloo/like Rigby

>>92335022
>>92336113
>>92338426
that's because there were 2 yugioh shows each one was based on a different part in the series

the first series was based more on the pre-duel monsters stuff where they played tabletop games/games of skill and the pharaoh was full on evil

the second series (the one that got dubbed) was based solely on the duel monsters stuff with them trying to fit things from the pre-duel monsters parts into it

examples of this are...

-bakura's 1st duel with yugi where he seals the souls of his firends in their favorite cards was a loose adaptation of the final arc of pre duel monsters where yugi & friends play DnD with bakura and he seals their soles in their characters

-the whole DDM arc was originally suppose to play out like yugi's duel with bandit kieth in the show where duke's game store burns down during the game

-kaiba was put into a coma from the mind crush instead of him disappearing to find himself like in the show

>>92339398
>those windows live movie maker effects

>>92339423
Looking back, there were a lot of characters and episodes of Fosters that just pissed me off as a kid. It's probably why I wasn't too bummed at it ending.

>>92339438
I never liked the Season 1 designs, and the personalities were what was wrong with current Spongebob and later seasons of Chowder.

>>92339297
I still remember seeing Ho-oh in the anime and looking from top to bottom in the game for it and the first movie didn't help matters when it showed of Donphan (which was based off of an Elephant, one of my favorite animals).

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>>92333736
>1-8 you see a transition from a stylized look to realistic one
>9 is cartoony again

>>92339457
From what I remember, Rigby tried to be a better person and would own up to his own mistakes while Bloo would end the episode still being a dick.

>>92339457
Rigby tends to be annoying simply because he's naive and isn't really aware that actions have consequences / other people have feelings. By the time the conflict of the episode is resolved, he's learnt his lesson and apologizes.

Blu, on the other hand, is completely aware that what he's doing is selfish but doesn't care anyway. The insufferable little penis is a borderline sociopath.

>>92332992

Flanderization

>>92330340
Even in the second episode, there's a bit where he casually take a broom, jabs it into an enforcer's gut without looking, then swings it around like a bo staff. He didn't do that kind of shit often in the first season, but he did it.

>>92339077
Man, I used to legit love Marceline.

>>92339331
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ubaXd19PkIU
Imagine if Nick had gone ahead and picked it up.

>>92338870
The thing that most sticks out to me is how in the first episode the Gumball Guardians nearly killed Finn and PB had to beg them to spare him. If that situation happened today PB would just order them to stop and they would obey in a second, early on it seemed like PB was barely controlling her kingdom when it was later shown that she made all of it.

That being said, I feel like AT's earlier seasons, while pretty out there, still mesh with the rest of the show pretty well. Except for Marceline, her transitions don't make much sense to me.

>>92327028
>there are people on this board right now that think Last Exit to Springfield is better than Homer's Odyssey.

>>92337535
Yeah, but what a lot of people don't realize is that Ho-oh had been officially revealed in Japan a few months before the anime premiered. There's a Japanese magazine scan that gets tossed around on /vp/ sometimes where you can see Ho-oh's official artwork alongside a blurb advertising the upcoming anime.

>>92334586
Nightmare fuel

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>First episode doesn't follow the acronym gimmic (No P in the OOL)
>Kuki and Wally have really heavy accents
>Numbuh 5's glasses.

Not to mention how the first season doesn't even hint at the KND being a much larger operation than just Sector V.

>>92339134
Rebecca Sugar thought Adventure Time's cast wasn't fleshed out enough and wanted to give them "depth". I Remember You, for example, literally exists because she thought Ice King's character was too vague (something about one of the staff trying to explain him to her as a "Rumpelstiltskin-type character", but that description confused her).

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>>92340000
Huh, guess that means that Ho-oh was one of many pokemon cut out of the first games. Still, will never forget that scene.
>Ticks me off a bit that it took this long for Ho-oh to appear in a movie.

>>92340090
Yeah, I think it was just a group of kids hanging out, season 2 is where things were expanded.

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>>92326356
>>92326903
You can argue that this is a smirk, and she has to show a big plastic smile.

>>92340112
I don't even mind a lot of Sugar's decisions in AT so much as, once she left the show didn't know what to do with them.

FP was actually a cool character, but then the breakup happened and we had to spend almost an entire season with Finn moping about it.

It doesn't help that Mordecai was ALSO going through his post-breakup mopefest.

Man that was a dour year for cartoons.

>>92340000
>>92340125
No, no. Adding Ho-Oh into the anime was a combined ploy by Nintendo to hype the coming sequels and the anime itself by hinting at more to come.

>>92340125
It's more that, Johto was coming up soon in Japan, while in America we'd JUST gotten Kanto. So the anime was promoting the next region while also sticking to the Kanto story.

>>92340180
Pretty much this. Honestly, I think Sugar was partially responsible for a lot of the best episodes of the show.

>>92340090
Fun fact: The Kids Next Door were originally conceived as never having a group name, instead having a different codename in every episode and never calling attention to it. "Kids Next Door" happened to be the one they went with in the pilot, where it was never meant to be their permanent name, but they ended up sticking with it when they realized how damn confusing the other idea was.

>>92340262
That's a pretty commonly held opinion.
Everyone jerks off over her genderbends and sad backstories and stuff but she also made very good regular adventure episodes with Finn and Jake too. She was versatile as hell and I think most everything she worked on with Muto was great. By season 5 she started slipping a bit but there were only like 4 eps she made in that season so whatever.

>>92334407
I thought that was his step-mom?

>>92335326
It's kinda cute.... unfitting, but cute

>>92339874
Wow

>>92338870
thing that sticks out to me about early AT is Finn and Jake's different dynamic.
Finn was a heroic lunatic back then, he was viscous as hell and was always up for totally destroying evil doers and stuff and had to be reigned in by Jake, who was the more reasonable and level headed of the two (even though he still had his lazy and selfish moments)

then come season 2 and Jake is mostly a useless, lazy load in all situations while Finn is a paragon of morality who Jake pretty much always hinders.
I'm not sure I like that too much, I get that Finn was growing so he would come into his own more but a lot of the time I feel like they loaded too much negative traits onto Jake. it was nice when he was competent enough to give young Finn good advice and set him on the right path and stuff.

>>92340090
And I heard the KND were more like domestic terrorists than a kid empowerment group. Which if No P in OOL is supposed to be the blueprint for the whole show, I can see. They were mostly just antagonizing the adults.

>>92333196
Here I thought she was disgusting enough as a human. That makes me want to puke.

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There is an anthropomorphic fox in a season 1 episode of Regular Show.

It's weird because I am pretty sure every crowdshot after that never involved any other anthropomorphic characters. The only exception for them to show up was as a part of a scene that actually required interaction.

Likewise, Pops straight up called Rigby a racoon early on.

Not quite on topic, but this thread got me thinking about that 5th season Pokémon episode with Mega Gyarados

>>92334407
Well, originally Brock's mom just left, so I can understand why it was changed to make her less negligent.

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>>92333255
Mammy had a face shown once.

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>>92340661

>>92339524
that's because 9 was from the Slimer spin-off series which was a lot goofier and cartoony

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Patrick in season one wasn't the sharpest knife in the drawer, but he was still competent. He was also around Squidward's height, and noticeably taller than Sandy. Post-movie Spongebob shrunk him to around Spongebob's size, making him another zany character to what was the big guy to Spongebob's little guy.

Another thing was that Spongebob was 13 when the series started, yet in the same season, he and Patrick were adults who went to prom and moved out after graduating.

>>92339524
>>92341002
er, rather 8 is cartoony, 9 is more realistic because it's from the Extreme Ghost Busters

>>92340997
Is that also from a season 1 episodes? They either stop showing up from season 2 or 3 onwards.

>>92341006
Spongebob episodes don't necessarily take place in order. For example Squidward froze himself in 2017 even though the episode came out in 1999

>>92341093
That was a rough estimate.

>>92339929
>Except for Marceline, her transitions don't make much sense to me.
It went from fun loving and teasing to emotional drama and lesbian angst, like the fanbase

>>92337116
You should see the episode with the shadow.

>>92340661
I've FUCKING NOTICED THIS
How come the only animal people in these shows are named characters why did they drop that it just feels weird

>>92340180
>It doesn't help that Mordecai was ALSO going through his post-breakup mopefest.
For most of their run, AT and RS were in fucking sync

>>92340902
Big red lips aside, she looks alright to me. Also I don't think they ever said she was the maid of the house, she very well could be the owner.

>>92340405
>That's a pretty commonly held opinion.
Just by the fags that love her from Steven Universe, and I'm not saying SU is bad, I'm saying the fags that mix series based on her other works are bad.

Few people who are AT priority types like her emotional, depth-adding crap.

>>92341351
>Big red lips aside
Black women wearing lipstick is a problem?

>>92341408
yes because it offends me

>>92339077
To be honest, I kinda miss her brief time as an antagonist

>>92339281
>The idea for Smithers' orientation was pitched by Sam Simon, who proposed that Smithers should be gay, but the writers should never draw too much attention to it and should try to keep it in the back of their heads

I'm sad that this was dropped almost completely later on in the show.

>>92341330
I believe you can partially thank execs seeing it as a way to increase ratings for it.

>>92341321
Because it's quicker to just have to deal with human characters as extras. The comics don't do that.

>>92341351
early episodes seemed to really insinuate that she was the maid what with her always wearing the apron and all, but by her later appearances she had her own room and really seemed to the only human occupant of the house

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>>92334407
You want to know another scene that was left uncensored by 4Kids?

>>92338371
Star pretty much had the brain of a 6 year old the first few episodes

>>92341383
>Few people who are AT priority types like her emotional, depth-adding crap.
Uhhh are you sure man? It's been a while since she was on the show but from what I see people still hold her AT work in pretty high regard, with SU not having much bearing on that.

Her AT stuff was relatively constrained compared to SU where Sugar has the power to have characters cry in practically every other episode, and I think it was this restraint that made her AT stuff better off. You didn't get beaten over the head with it nearly as much.

>>92340631
They were originally supposed to be recurring supporting characters in Kenny and the Chimp, had it been picked up for a series. From what I gather, they were kind of a chaotic third-party who lived next door to Kenny, and he'd get caught up in trouble because of them through proximity.

>>92338677
they toned down certain aspects of him and toned some others up. It was fine for a single episode, but I think I would have gotten tired of it if it was repeated too much.

>>92341553
If I remember, Professor XXXL was more of an actual villain in Kenny and the Chimp as well.

>>92339239
Don't feel bad. AT is basically 'squandered potential: the show.'

>>92341042
10 is extreme ghostbusters

>>92341674
Isn't that also what Gravity Falls and Steven Universe are?

>>92341006
>Patrick in season one wasn't the sharpest knife in the drawer, but he was still competent.

Not really, no. Remember the Valentines episode?

Patrick has always been a big idiot. But, like with all idiot characters, he's good when his idiocy is used as a vessel to tell clever jokes. S1-3 did that, the rest of the show didn't.

>>92341553
SALMONELLA FITZGERALD?

>>92341701
It's what /co/ considers every cartoon to be

>>92341006
Season one Patrick was also manipulative and willing to take advantage of Spongebob's naivety.

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>this thread

>>92339246
I remember seeing him once more but that's it.

>>92326308
didn't this get switched around in another episode?

>>92341716
SWINE
FLU

>>92341006
I believe that Spongebob's "Birthdate" is just a reference to when Hillenburg created him, not his actual birthdate. Spongebob is practically ageless.

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>>92326308
"Yes, but what man could tame her?"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c3fyPEcf434

>>92341408
Not >>92341441 but I wouldn't be surprise if her face was drawn to be stereotypical. If it's just lipstick then I truly have no problem with her.

>>92340661
>>92340997
>>92341321
JG Quintel said that in a slightly canon way we saw them as animals/not human because we knew the characters more and could see them deeper than, say, a background human on the street.

>>92341714
Good point. You could argue that him being dumb is just for the sake of comedy, rather than him being dumb for the sake of it.

>>92341093
Aw yes the spongebob timeline.

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>>92333554

>>92341093
That's just dumb Sponge wikia shit, like saying every continuity error just means the episode takes place before the established continuity

>>92341870
he was originally just a stupid kid who liked to eat glue, until like season 9 where he became full on retarded.

>>92340661
>Pops straight up called Rigby a racoon early on.
when?

>>92333554
They mention fish in one of the newer games I believe

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>>92327842
Season 4 Tom finally puts her in her place.
Go to the 1 minute mark. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1tgrj7_the-boondocks-season-4-episode-1-pretty-boy-flizzy-part-2_shortfilms
Sorry, no Youtube clip in sight.

>>92341951
I would really like to see an updated red and blue where that sign said "The Lightning Unovan". Also, wasn't South America mentioned numerous times? I think that's were Fuji found Mew.

>>92341489
Bullshit, this was never translated until a decade later, if at all.

>>92332992
Faceless parents.

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>>92326935

>>92341462
>I believe you can partially thank execs seeing it as a way to increase ratings for it.
Maybe, CJ existed because CN wanted Mordecai in a love triangle predicament, and she was supposed to be a one time character but CN made her come back, and after that the writers started liking her and focused on her instead of making Margaret more of a character

>>92342029
That's from the Squirtle Squad episode, Anon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-upluVI81jA

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>>92326308
Family Guy seemed to have a naming convention for it's early episodes which it quickly dropped.

>>92342093
Edgy.

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>>92326308
HIS HANDS ARE NAKED!!

>>92342093
I kinda noticed this too

>>92342017
There were at least two instances in the Gen I Pokedex where Indian Elephants were mentioned as a barometer for what a Pokemon was capable of killing.

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>>92326308

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>>92326356
>>92326903
ABSOLUTELY CHAOTIC

>>92342093
According to the commentary, they dropped it because it made it too damn hard to remember which episode was which.

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>>92342200
Lest we not forget her VALLEY GIRL phase.

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>>92342200
Which reminds me of valley girl Eris that they later made fun of when she became cool.

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>>92342200
Did she always have a gap in her teeth?

>>92342306
Yes.

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>>92340661
Your eyes staring into my eyes,
Who am I but a guy with two eyes on the prize,

And the prize in my eyes is 10 times
The surprise in your eyes as I kiss you goodnight.

Your smile is the fire that rocks my soul
Gonna remember it until I grow old,
'Cause life is too short we gotta do things right,

So baby let's just party toni-ight.
Baby let's just party toni-ight.

We've come out on top, we're in front of the line,
We're here to rock out and have a good time,
'Cause the past is the past and the future is bright,

So baby let's just party toni-ight.
Baby let's just party toni-ight.

>>92342163
Also the date of the moon landing were mentioned too.
I'm actually pretty sure that the games take place on Earth on non-existing islands near Japan.

>>92342029
Wrong, that's the episode when Ash catches Squirtle and it was there since the first airing.

>>92340661
>anthropomorphic fox
someone in the dvd commentary mentioned it and said "that fox guy in crowds", not sure if it was one of those compilation sets or if it was the seasons 1 and 2 set

>>92342383
this just fucked me up man
>we didn't hear it in the finale

>>92342383
I remember learning this song on trombone in high school.
It's just crazy to think that this show was even out when I was in high school.

>>92342163
Pewter City had the Space Shuttle Columbia in display at the Museum.

Ash wore purple gloves in the Pokemon pilot

>>92342445
Was it something you did on your own or was it a school thing

>>92342662
Something I did on my own. I was finally good enough that I could start playing songs I liked so I experimented with songs like that.

>>92334860
okay

>>92334586
The amount of effort they put into the animation was impressive. Almost to the point it's excessive with all the movements.

>>92342425
Most Pokemon regions are extremely obvious proxies for real places. Saffron City is right where Tokyo is in real life, for instance.

>>92342616
>Pokémon pilot
Does that exist? I've never heard of it before this post.

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>>92342739

>>92342739
Meanwhile Unova is New York, Kalos is middle europe and Alola is obviously Hawaii.

>>92333196
Her dog form looks the best in Mysterious Mose.

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As Rugrats went on, they did a lot less of weird shit like this.

>>92326356
MODS

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Margaret was going to be naked but they seemed to have changed it at the last minute.

>>92338677
God I love that subtle reference to Doc and Mharti

>>92326935
>*yawn* good morning wagecucks

>>92327404
>>92327372
I like this trope

>>92342093
Yes, the first season is centered around death themes, the creators weren't certain the series was going to keep going.

>>92334518
I prefer recent Stewie because he feels more like a character now while sometimes being a stereotype instead of being one all the time.

>>92341383
This is not true at all.

Hell, the Internet after "I Remember You" was an insanity.

You are just taking shitposter's opinions on retrospect.

>>92332992
They want to have their cake and eat it: Child protagonist, but not deal with the parents outside of them being a plot device.

>>92333477
>the network stepped in and asked for Courage to talk less.
Do you know why? I literally can't think of a single reason for this, and executive meddling is usually pretty obvious in its motivations.
>>92334196
Good point.

>>92339077
>spend a full quarter century masturbating
What

>>92342017
Unova is just a region in America, America still exists itself in Pokémon