What are some of the biggest examples of Flanderization?

Go look in the mirror.

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I'll just get the obvious one out of the way.

Ned Flanders.

>>92322795
I mean that is where they got the name flanderization from.

>>92322741
man i was so pissed when i saw that pilot.
cosmo was such a boss in it.i wish they have kept those interactions intact.

>>92322924
>Be 1 year after Phil Hartman dies
>make one of your main characters a Phil Hartman impression

it was an interesting strategy

>>92322741
Peridot, I guess.

>>92322741
Belgium

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Any character on family guy

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>Dirx is a stoic, tough, no-holds-barred cold pill, who never runs from a real fight. Would never, in his life, trust a criminal.

Show
>Drix is a wacky, bumbling sidekick who screams like a girl, and is often seeing cowering in fights. Trusted a criminal and allowed the criminal to break into an oil refinery in an ill-fated attempt to be "street".

>>92324722
Except for Brian

>>92325259
Brian is basically Seth's self-insert so it's not really surprising.

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>>92322741
>Season 1
Reasonably intelligent. Takes care ohis family.

>Later Seasons
Destructive moron. Even dumber than Billy.

Why do they do this?

>>92325259
Brian was originally the levelheaded voice of reason, and in several early episodes was seen reading and quoting the Bible. He's the first character to notice that the plagues have a Biblical connection in the episode where Peter started an occult, and even slapped him saying "GOD. IS. PISSED." in it.

So yes, including Brian.

>>92325259
What are you talking about? He went from the straight-man voice of reason to an insufferable narcissistic liberal.
Sure you could argue that those traits were always present, but they weren't nearly as overbearing as they are now.

>>92322924
>Smooth voice
>Quick wit
>Great, balanced chemistry between him and Wanda

Reeeeally wish Hartman and Co. stuck with the OG Cosmo.

The Eds.

Ed went from a chill guy. While he wasn't that smart, he had some form of intelligence I felt. Then he became loud and very very dumb. Despite that, Ed has always made me laugh hard

>>92325949
I forgot the other 2

Double D was very mellow and seemed to talk the least. He was a neat freak, but he seemed calm and always went along with Eddy's plans. Then, he started to criticize Eddy's plans a lot and became even more of a neat freak.

Eddy started out as someone who just wanted to fit in. Greedy and selfish, but really cared for his friends. Then, he became even more selfish and greedy, as well as very loud and would even abuse his friends

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>>92325386
Here's a fringe theory: Brian suddenly being an atheist in post-cancellation seasons isn't a continuity error, it's a plot point. It's a plot point typically used in a preachy and annoying way, but a plot point nonetheless.

The last time we see a direct reference to Brian believing in God is in the season 3 premiere, "The Thin White Line". At the end of the episode, he says the one thing he's learned from the whole ordeal is that everyone is responsible for their own actions (or something to that effect); that's when he stops believing in God.

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She went from hating boys and blindly praising any girl operatives whether they were competent or not to just hating everyone in general.

DuckTales Launchpad vs Darkwing Launchpad

>>92326586
She was really ahead of her time tbhwyfam

>>92324841
Only watched it in latin dub (porque vivo en beanerlandia a la verga) and I wanna know if the original changed the voice from movie-low and stern to series-high faggoted pitch

>>92325949
Big Ed never had anything resembling intelligence.

>>92325259
Seriously Brian's character right now is way more hateful and obnoxious than everyone else, and he used to be the one with a greater common sense. They should've leaved him dead.

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Am I the only one who thinks every other character became better while he turned shittier?

>>92325949
>>92326000
That reminds me of the Kanker sisters as well. They went from slightly creepy, overly controlling dramatic queens, to flat out rapists in later seasons.

Textbook case.

As the MCU went on, every hero has become a quippy sarcasm lord with a heart of gold

>>92327132
That happened immediately after the movie, though

>>92327256
Even Thor. It was really weird hearing him go "I am son of Odin, guys I can't remember because this is really heavy or whatever".

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>>92326000
>>92327153
I feel like EEnE actually benefited from it somehow, made the characters play off of each other better in later seasons than the first one. Only case I can think of where I enjoyed the Flanderized cast more than the original iterations of them.

>>92326678
What's the difference?

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Pretty much ever appearance she made after her first was a hysterical caricature.

>>92327132
the movie and first season were fun but then bloo turned into such an obnoxious prick in the later seasons

>>92327132
This, I liked asshole Bloo

>>92322784
>>92325640
>Why do (((they))) do this?

>>92325640
Although he was an ex Navy Seal

>>92326000
>Eddy started out as someone who just wanted to fit in. Greedy and selfish, but really cared for his friends. Then, he became even more selfish and greedy, as well as very loud and would even abuse his friends

That pissed me off most of all. Eddy in the early seasons was selfish, but still a kind of chill dude who you could hang out with if you got on his good side. The Eddy of the later seasons was a greedy, evil, Eric Cartman-esque character.

>>92326714
That´s fucking true!, but I love redheads...I can still bang her 10/10

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>>92326770
Fuck off beaner!, is NOT beanerlandia...is Mega CIty-one off Judge Dredd

>>92325259
He's probably the second most flanderized character on the show.

From most flanderized to lest
Stewie>Brian>Meg>Peter>Lois>Chris

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Lisa motherfucking Simpson

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He became shit

>>92327359
This. I don't think it's really an example of Flanderization, but the writers finding stronger identity and a groove for the characters as time went on.

>people saying Stewie

You fuckers forgot was flanderization is.

Stewie's character CHANGED. He's not a murderous psychopath hellbent on taking over the world anymore. He's now a smarthmouthed little fag.

Get your shit straight.

>>92328761
To be fair, pre-movie Spongebob did cry loudly too. Like that time Mr Krabs fired him in the karate episode, or the Grandma's kisses episode.

>>92322741
>Flanderization
Go back to TV Tropes.

>>92325259
I'd say Brian has switched roles with Meg. He is the punching bag of the show now.

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>>92328920
I don´t know, for me everything went shit when he stopped looking like this

>>92328671
I forgot. What happened with Meg?

>>92329007
She turned into the voice of reason, or in other words, >>92328982

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>>92328949
>he's so new he thinks tvtropes invented the term Flanderization

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>>92327132
Foster's was just a trainwreck when it came to flanderization/seasonal rot tbqh

>>92329059
Well, actually I don't even give a fuck, it's definitely TV Tropes that promotes it nowadays so it's still shit by association, whatever its origins may be.

>>92328996
>THINGS THAT BOTHER YOU NEVER BOTHER ME

>>92325640
Honestly I found the Season 1 Harold and Gladis to be annoying and stereotypical insert parents. I'm glad they changed them.

>>92328920
>Like that time Mr Krabs fired him in the karate episode, or the Grandma's kisses episode
In the former, he's freaking out at the realization that his addiction just cost him his job, which is the most important thing in his life and his pride and joy, and it's all his fault. In the latter, he was just a guy who really loved his Grandmother, got severely mocked for it, try to change drastically so he would be "more mature" which he couldn't stand because it was fundamentally a lie about how he feels in regards to his grandmother since he was incredibly jealous of all the love Patrick was getting.

It's a far cry from wasting a week waiting for a mail order cereal prize and then crying like a baby when the gimmick activates.

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>>92329109
>I feel happy and fine, Aha Living in the sunlight Loving in the moonlight, Having a wonderful time

>>92329222
Totally agree

>>92326586
but anon that was a improvement anon.

>>92326586
Now I remember why I don't want a reboot. This show had great ideas, designs, and well written characters like Numbah 1 and 5, but it also had some of the shittiest side characters i've seen in cartoons.

>>92329186
Gladis went nuts in the first season

>>92328234
This, everybody is a prick in the mansion, bloo making them suffer is for the best

>>92329318
Another thing that annoyed me was the characters screaming constantly.

>>92329318
Lizzie was the worst character in KND

>>92329340
Yeah and I hated the episode where they made it seem like she's nuts because everyone around her is dense. Yet when they started writing her as her naturally being nuts the gag became so much better.

Was Phil Hartman related to Butch?

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>>92329405
Was she more annoying than her? I can´t really remember

>>92329371
Honestly this is the reason I couldn't get into the series. All the characters personalities went a 180 after the movie.

Mac and Wilt became huge SJWs, Eduardo became an even bigger faggot, and Coco sometimes flips from being crazy to being a bitch.

I always cheered for Bloo despite how much he deserved.

>>92329465
Lizzie was more annoying than Mushi

>>92328761
Why the fuck is there so much art like that? One or two would be alright, but there's a whole subgenre of old SpongeBob getting annoyed by neo SpongeBob, despite him rarely getting that annoyed early on.

>>92329495
Wasn't Lizzie that fat bitch that dumped Nigel over a misunderstanding?

>>92326770
His voice does change a bit between the movie and cartoon, but it's not very extreme. The cartoon voice is just a bit sillier.

>>92329528
A lot of mad fans

>>92329576
She dumped him because he chose the KND over her, it seems rude on his part until you remember that if it weren't for kids like Nigel, most kids on the planet would be treated like slaves.

>>92329582
Yeah. Jeff Bennett did a decent impersonation of David hyde pierce.

>>92328907
Stewie was questionably gay in the early seasons. As the show went on, they started making jokes about it more and more until they just dropped the evil baby thing in favor of gay jokes.

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>>92325949

>>92329817
Ed was the one who had the biggest change out of the three. I kinda miss when he was a comic book eccentric nerd instead of a buzzword obsessed idiot.

>>92329224
>>92329109
>>92328996
https://youtu.be/qF4RCOcz9ow

I for real hate that any Tiny Tim people hear nowadays is slowed down grainy version in Horror movies for some bizarre reason. He was an amazing musician and Spongebob fantastically used the shit out of his music.

>>92329817
>>92329971
In defense of the character, the writers did often remember he was a /co/mrade. And we got episodes mixed in among the ones where he was really bad where he was a complete idiot, but all about monster stuff or Evil Tim.

>>92329979
https://youtu.be/tEp-XtGOp0s

Case and point. Fuckin awful.

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>>92329817
this image is retarded and so are you. notice how you can switch the text boxes around and it still fits in with their characters, thats exactly why the Eds being fleshed out was a good thing. They were boring fucking characters in the first episodes, with hardly anything to set them apart. Eddy needed his short temper, Edd his neat freak obsession, and Ed his lovable stupidity to actually become interesting characters

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>>92322770
comebacks that sound good on paper

>>92322784
hey Beter

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>became meme-tier in record time

>>92322795
Surprised it took three posts to name him.

>>92326773
He wasn't as dumb, though.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaX4A3NHWoM

>>92331402
eh, I kinda liked seeing the progression of a mindless worker drone into madness after everything kept going wrong

the biggest mistake they made is keeping all her and lapis' character development offscreen

>>92325760
There's a line in an early season where he say's "I like Hillary Clinton, no matter what anybody says" albeit a circa 2000 Clinton

>>92325259
>Brian
>not flanderized

In an earlier episode he had a thing for Lois, told her about it, and then took it easily when she rejected him.

Since then, from what little I've seen/heard of Family Guy, he's apparently fucked two of her kids and tried to rape her.

>>92325640
>RAGGLE FRAGGLE

You people are morons

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>>92331418
>they waterboarded Plank

my sides

>>92331418
he spends 5 seconds repeatedly running into a lightpole

>>92331402
>Huge threat and first homeworld gem introduced that's threatening and competent
>turned into a small weird little gremlin thing that was b-lined into a barn with a blue bitch who hardly ever get's screen time

>>92327256
Only happened on Whedon movies and Thor the dark world

>>92329691
>She dumped him because he chose the KND

I´ll just going to put this here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPni6B2d9QM

>>92331719
I did say "AS dumb". He was dumb, but he wasn't just completely off in a fantasy world like he is in later episodes.

>>92325760
>>92331545
After the show was uncanceled, Brian began to drop some comments in seasons 4-6 that mirrored some of Seth MacFarlane's political views, such as him being glad Al Gore is president and that Karl Rove, Antonin Scalia, and Tucker Carlson got shot in the alternate future of the "Meet the Quagmires" episode.

However, by season 7 this was taken to the extreme with many episodes focused on Brian's political and atheist views, starting with "Not All dogs go to heaven", much to the audience's dismay.

>>92329405
Lizzie seemed like that character that Nigel would find annoyingly clingy, like that precocious crush that wont leave you alone....except he actually liked her back despite having ZERO redeeming qualities.

LET ME COUNT THE WAYS

>1. Couldn't cook worth a shit
>2. Manipulative and bossy
>3. Fat and not the cute kind
>4. Loud and never shut the fuck up
>5. Fucking shits on everyone that isnt Numbuh 1.
>6.demanding and aggressive
>7.wasnt smart.

>>92331828
That relationship should have ended the time she slapped a brainwashing helmet on him.

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>>92329105
>he's this triggered by tiny things

Watching the first episode >>92331418 shows Eddy screaming a lot and Edd being a neat freak, so I'm not sure what point >>92329817 is trying to make.

>>92329318
it would have been a continuation especially with Warburton still in charge of everything

>>92332117
I think Eddy did get louder and became more of a jerk in later seasons, but yeah, their traits were always there.

>>92327153
The most they ever do is kiss the Eds.

>>92332117
The person who made that is exaggerating probably because of their own warped perceptions.

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>>92322741
This one being the most recent example I feel.

>>92325640
What about Irwin? They turned him into a stereotype.

>>92332248
To be fair. Wasn't Irwin pretty much a caricature of Urkel anyway?

>>92331877
wasnt that like her FIRST appearance? lol.

>>92332389
Urkel wasnt a wannabe gangster. They made irwin into a cheesy black hiphop caricature.

>>92332580
True that.

>>92332523
Exactly.

>>92332237
They've been flanderized even within the show. A couple of their gags from the first episodes have become their entire personalities in the later ones.

>>92328599
fuck off with this bait. even /pol/ isn't retarded enough to randomly namefag like this

>>>/reddit/

>>92322741
I often forget how godlike FOP was in the Oh Yeah Cartoons era

>>92322741
When exactly Joker switch from being this evil gangster who liked to fuck with batman through pranks. To this unstoppable demonic serial killer other villains are terrified of? My mind goes to a serious house on serious earth where it is implied there is a mystical connection with him.

>>92332237
>WAFFLES WAFFLES WAFFLES WAFFLES WAFFLES WAFFLES WAFFLES WAFFLES WAFFLES WAFFLES

They can't even make a fucking proper song.

>>92327256
It's terrible.

>>92328982
To be fair, he deserves it a lot more than Meg did.
>Meg got shat on because the writers couldn't figure out how to depict a teenage girl.
>Brian gets shat on for being an all-around shitty person, even worse than characters who blow up hospitals or rape people for fun.

>>92333335
The killing Joke.

>>92322741
4chan itself

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Smooth talking chad that got cockblocked due to bad luck and was a boss at martial arts and could slaughter a crocodile.

Then he became an Autistic man child who could only say "hey ya pretty mama" and wasn't able to harm a fly.

Though as terrible as they Bollywood movie, as least it reemdemed his character a little bit.

>>92333466
>Complaining about the waffles song
>not the fan episode song
"I once held a can for my fan. I even ran once for my fan"
Holy
SHIT

>>92331516
>The barn where character development goes to die

>>92322741
couldnt fine the pilot this came from. where can i find more stupid sexy cosmo

>>92322770
But Daffy duck was never flanderised

>>92332248
>>92332580
That was funny though. Irwin was a boring token nerd character before he was hip-hopified.

>>92331744
It's been 2 years. Was there anything more after this or will we be left in the dark forever?

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>>92334661
Second season > first season.
Manchild Johnny was more entertaining and consistent and didn't need random talking animals to make the episode funny.
Johnny was always supposed to be stupid as well. But in the first season episodes were usually "something weird happens to Johnny" while the second ones were more like "Johnny happens to other people".
Basically as soon as McFarlane got off Johnny it got good.

>>92335863
>Johnny willingly taking off his shades even slightly
Shit picture

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>>92332237
I'd blame this show for character inconsistencys moreover flanderization

the characters are definitions of hypocrites

>>92324722
family guy as a whole

>>92329817
>vampiremeerkat
LOL

>>92335863
>Basically as soon as McFarlane got off Johnny it got good.

Opposite.

Second season was when he took charge. People always forget that Seth did plenty of great works on CN.

>>92331744
>number 3 cursing
so cute

>>92331639
AAH SOMEBODY HELP ME

>>92331744
It's been a while but I still want this to be a thing.

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A lot of characters in this show especially Gumball and Nicole. There are 3 version of the characters

Gumball was "fun-loving, imaginative, optimistic, happy cat". Then he became a happy but a little cynical and less "optimistic" kid but he also became smarter to the point of being the voice of the reason of his family. Then he became an unlikeable, retard asshole and an annoying cunt who will destroy other peoples' lives to feel better with himself.

Nicole was a loving, workaholic, silly mother that loved to spend time with her family and play with her kids. He had some anger issues but most of the time she was a happy, nice person. As a kid she was dumb cat with bad luck, like Gumball.

Then she became a mad, selfish bitch who is angry almost all the time and is violent and sometimes abusive to her family (especially Gumball) and everybody else. She is also a mary sue with a lot of powers and as kid she was a smart, perfect girl good as everything.

>>92328671
Stewie has been arguably flanderized, but he's really been given much more personality over the years. He's still pretty evil and flamboyant, yet his personality overall shows a lot more nuance than someone like Peter or Lois. Hell, look at any episode with Brian to see how Stewie is Most Improved Character while making that damn dog more tolerable.

>>92337481
But those changes weren't anywhere near as bad as you're making them out to be.

>>92329817
Yeah. In the first couple of seasons you actually got the sense that they were friends, who while different in personality, all shared some common interests. In later seasons, they become so exaggerated and hostile towards each other, that I often wondered why they even bother hanging out hanging out together.

>>92337672

We're not talking about flat characters; we're talking about characters who were flattened over time.

>>92322924
>>92323088
>>92325854
Where can I find this pilot?

>>92339122
Yes, they were that bad.

>>92335302

Literally kek.

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>>92322741
>go from naive girl trying to find her way in life while desperately fighting to not end up as white trash garbage like her mom
>eventually become a drooling retard who marries white trash garbage

I love King of the Hill but the progression of Luanne's character in the later seasons really annoyed me. Wings of the Dope was one of the best episodes and the later seasons just completely invalidates everything that happened in it.

>>92335863
But Seth took control during season 2, he wasn't there for 1, dummy.

>>92325640

>ex navy seal
>go into harvard
>master dancer
>son was a "genius baby"

Billys dad was weirdly accomplished for a retard

>>92339386
(you)tube

>>92339491
You can't escape the trailer life once you're born into it