Is this the best gay reprensentation in any show ever?

Yes.

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Not by a long shot

>>92294506
no

but what does that even mean? since obviously people would have different opinions about what is a good or bad gay representation in a show

>>92294506
It's pretty damn good, also had the first gay kiss on television, although the show never really got much credit for it

>>92294535
Kiss on the lips, then we'll talk.

>>92294571
He's not wrong, tou know.
Lesbian relationships are extremely codependent as a generality and they actually have the highest relationship abuse statistics. Like, not just emotional shit, I mean lying about your black eye levels of abuse.

It's a very sad thing to see in real life.

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>>92294535
Remember that red gem is the author's self insert and that the blue girl in the dress is her fat black boyfriend.

>>92294506
Yes.

I love how naturally they portray them being gay as part of their character, without it being part of their personality.


>Alexander the great was a homo!

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NEW CONDOMS? WHAT'S WRONG WITH OUR REGULAR BRAND OF CONDOMS?
>Nothing, these were just on special, that's all!
YA CHEAP GAY BASTARD, THESE THINGS ARE GONNA FLY RIGHT OFF!

>>92294627
Okay.

>>92294535
Taking what is pretty much the coolest character on the show and then saying "surprise, she is the literal physical manifestation of a gay relationship!" was actually a pretty neat idea, but Ruby and Sapphire as characters on their own are pretty lame.

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>>92294535
ill kill you nigge!

>>92294535
thread
fucking
derailed

>>92294644
>Alexander the great was a homo!
I like the fact that this was literally done just to give Gus an excuse to say the word "clobber".

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>>92294627
The resemblance is uncanny. This is the best thing Ian has done since not finishing RPGWorld.

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>>92294506
But anon, they said they were gay all the time. By /co/'s logic, anyone who frequently talks about their sexuality is a walking magnet for pandering. You can't just have stuff like Wally and Gus, and >>92294535 promoting their love, it will upset the neckbeards. Wally and Gus are trash characters.

I'd say the majority of the cast and Impulse from Young Justice were the best gay characters because they never, ever talked about their homosexual interests.

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>>92294648
Wait, why would gays need condoms unless one of them had a disease?

>>92294723
Sometimes you just don't feel like cleaning semen from your rectum

>>92294723
dicks going into poo poo hole isnt sanitary even without diseases.
Smart people get enemas and fast before anal

t. part time gimp

>>92294535
This. I love how no one in the show ever brings up that they're gay. People would tolerate homosexuality more if it wasn't made such a big deal of and wasn't shoved into everyone's faces.

>>92294759
Or cleaning out shit from your peehole.

>>92294704
all scenes with Gus are great

>>92294813
The vast majority of fags don't shove it in your face and just want to live their life, as evidenced by the fact that you don't know they're a fag. You only see the flamboyant ones, so you think they're typical instead of the extreme minority.

>>92294506
Honestly, yes. They were written as characters first and foremost, were relatable, their homosexual relationship wasn't their sole defining trait, and everyone in the show never made it into a huge deal.

>>92294704

Why emphasis on clobber?

Were Andy and Jim hipsters?

They have hipster qualities but they never actually struck me as hipster but what hipster desperately want to be actually

>>92294923
Oh sorry I wasn't clear. I was talking about popular media. Gays are almost always represented as stereotypical. Also gay parades and such exposure aren't helping

>>92295037
Supposedly Gus's design and voice reminded the writers a lot of The Thing, so they wanted to give Gus an excuse to use the word most associated with The Thing.

>>92294535
>>92294813
>>92294674

Rocks don't have genders

>>92295093
hahaha really?

>>92294506
I'd say so, the only real contenders I can think off the top of my head would be the McBrides from the Loud House. The main thing that Wally and Angus and the McBrides have over >>92294535 is that they are people first, gay second (or maybe third). Whereas Ruby and Sapphire are gay first, second, third, fourth, fifth, sixth and maybe don't start being people at around a distant 30th.

>>92294506
Yes, i'm pretty much Gus and my partner too, but Wally wasen't really that bad the guy was more snobby than a sissy, it's good to see a gay man in media that's not flaming faggot

>>92294723
Anon, we all shit from there, have you ever have anal with a girl she dosen't have disease, but you still are going to use a condom

>>92296060

The whole thing about Wally is that he appears to be a flaming sissy stereotype at first, but he really just is snobby, caring and a bit emotional.

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I wonder how many straight anons ITT will claim that the best gay representation is from characters who never, ever act g-

crap, already too late

>>92294763
This is how you destroy your native flora.

For fuck's sake, just shit an hour before sex.

>>92296202
Everyone does it anon, but it's about precaution and hygiene

>>92296166
It's another newfag that never meet a real gay person and believe tumblr sterotypes

>>92295063
You say they're always represented as stereotypes but you wouldn't know the ones who aren't.

People don't seem to get the purpose of stereotypes.

>>92296166
>Im gay and i want everyone to know it
>But im too stupid to add anything to the discussion so ill just add smug and hope some mistake it with being deep

>>92296248
>Everyone does it
Doesn't mean you should. If it's about hygiene, wear a condom.

>>92296380
That's a pretty retarded thing to say.

If their sexual orientation isn't relevant, of course I'm not going to distinguish them. They're humans like anyone else.

If it is relevant, then it will probably be obvious because they have a partner of the same fucking sex.

>>92294506
I legit felt for these characters. Laughed too. That's a rarity for many shows these days.

>>92296166
>belonging to an arbitrary group automatically makes you the authority on how a social issue should be approached

>>92296532
Sorry my redaction is pretty shitty, english is not my first lenguage. I mean that everyone shit and clean before having anal sex and wearing the condom is about hygiene too

>>92296639
youre saying a gay man's opinion shouldn't matter on a discussion about gay characters in tv?

>>92296598
The resolution to why Gus didnt want to remove the knife and why he had it stuck was surprisingly heartfelt considering how silly the premise is.

>>92296735
No you retard, he is saying that him being gay doesnt make him an authority over a complicated social subject. or that his opinion is worth more, just based on the fact that he is gay.

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>Quit yer fussin'.

>>92296558
You're calling me retarded, but you're agreeing with me so I'm not necessarily sure what to say.
I'm not making a point about human beings, I'm talking about cartoon characters. Cartoon characters are made to be extremes of certain traits and that's always been and always will be because they're not real people and it's fucking boring to make a character with a unique trait who don't express it to the extreme.

>>92296669
>english is not my first lenguage
Why do people say this? The statement itself doesn't imply your English is lacking. It sounds like an excuse, but it's a shitty excuse. Just outright say it's not good.

>>92296790
Thank you for replying to the brainless ass for me

>>92296735
To be fair is just different opinions, i'm gay man too and i really feel Gus is the closest thing i seen to a gay character similar to me, Wally is fine too, he's more snobby like other anon pointed than sissy

>>92296743
Exactly. Laughed my ass off and got feels all at once. Also the episode on how they met was great.

>>92296838
Why didn't Gus just go and get the knife removed?

By having it stuck he had more people fussing over him

>>92297000
Man Wally was such a retard, he could have had a great carreer AND Gus at the same time.

>>92294763
"t." doesn't mean "source", it means "regards".

>>92297111
why did you feel like you had to point that out?

His comment still works, your pedantry accomplished nothing but making you look vapid.

>>92297096
The lightbulb. The fucking lightbulb.

>>92294593
wait what? How in the hell did they have the FIRST?

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>>92294535
>not rose and Pearl, the relationship with actual backstory and complexity

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>>92297471

The lightbulb was a great idea. Then we could see what he was really feeling at the time.

>>92297547
We've never even seen them in a relationship

>>92297547
This thread is about great gay relationship representation and gay characters.

Not a cuckold general

>>92294763
>t. part time gimp
Does that pay well?

>>92297065
stop fussin

>>92297754
No, tell me why you dont just get that damn knife of yours removed!

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>>92294535
HAHAHAHAHA

>>92294506
Yes and they were good down to earth people. Still disgusting though. Nothing wrong with having gay feelings, but it's degenerate and you should never actually those feelings out.

It's up there for sure.

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>>92297955

>>92297502
It featured an on-screen homosexual kiss (between Gus and Wally in the pilot episode) from a couple established to be male homosexuals, making it one of the first TV shows of any kind to do so. (Only a 1990 episode of The Simpsons ("Simpson and Delilah") and the first season of Picket Fences in 1992 (which featured a male-on-male kiss in one episode and a female-on-female kiss in another) predate the episode in this regard) and in one of the greatest trope aversions of all time, elderly gay couple Gus and Wally had such rich personalities and unique storylines that the list of tropes below contains no Stereotype Gay entries. The show won an award from GLAAD for showing homosexual characters in a positive and non-stereotypical light.

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>>92298824
>copy/pasting TVTropes

>>92294535
Not really. I mean they are pretty lame characters. The only time you see them is when they dysfunction or lose. Like in the hotel or on the handship. Even then they have heavy tunnel vision. Ruby was about to leave steven alone just to look for sapphire and ruby not taling the mock baseball game seriously. They're that couple that everyone hates just because they're together because they forget everyone around them.

>>92295061
This was something that irritated me to no end as a kid with his brother in college when this show aired. Hipsters weren't necessarily a bad thing, I wouldnt say andy was a hipster but jim definitely had a hipster look and sensibilities. What irritated me was a few years later was when everyone called everything hipster it seemed like the definition I knew just completely changed.

>>92296166
>someone stupid likes amazing world of gumball
color me suprised

>>92295866
Mr. and Mr. McBride are pretty fun. I like them a hell of a lot better than Clyde, that's for sure.

>>92298824
Right, so not the first.
>>92296271
Not that faggot, but "real gay" people run the gamut from flamboyantly gay to everyone is very surprised to find out their gay. There are stereotypes out there but there are people who behave similarly to those stereotypes.

>>92294506
I wish people would stop fellating this show as being the best thing ever.

>>92301190
Because it's a great show that ended WAY to fucking early and is one of the greatest examples of rating obsessed executives ruining everything

>>92294506
why do gay people only become cool when they are old and shunned from the gay community?
seems like that shit is completely toxic really, i wonder how the world woulld be like if people didnt feel the need to surround themselves only with people with the same taste for dick and marxism

>>92301190
>Doesn't like pure 90's cartoon kino
>Should probably kill himself

>>92294674
its amazing how garnet went from being the level headed character to the coolest character and into the lamest character all in a three episode span

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>>92294506

I dunno, they are pretty good but i always thought that Jim and Kevin were a way better reprensentatives of gay people than Gus and Wally were.

>>92298243
he ain't wrong fite me

>>92294923
thats the case with every single thing in the world anon, i know all i need to know about gay people by their voting habits anyways

>>92301367
>90s
Barely.

>>92301486

The show was a reflection of the 90's and the people that lived in it.


The show might have aired in 1999, but it was in pre-production long before that and it reflected the reality of those working on it. you know, young adults in the 90s.

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>>92301428
alrighty

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>>92301428
what the actual fuck.

Why.

>>92294506
Bucky and Pronk fight a lot because they're "real".

>>92295061
No, because there was nothing conscious about Jim and Andy's behavior or dress, they didn't give a shit and lived their lives how they wanted. They drank cheap malt liquor and dressed like slobs and got annoyed when they had to deal with actual hipsters. If they were actual hipsters they'd have paid for fancy craft beers and bought designer clothes made to look like cheap garbage.

>>92297883
like when an old tough guy won't go to the doctor for a hernia or to have a suspicious growth checked out because he's not worried about it. Gus, who is portrayed as kind of a benevolent ogre, gets stabbed in the head and wants to just walk it off.

>>92302240
What are hipsters then?

Like are Andy and Jim what hipsters strive towards, but will never actually achieve because they are too caught up with living and being a lie/poser and Jim and Andy are just living it?

>>92301428
[muffled goober giger]

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>>92301428

Alright, that's it, i'm going to bed, no more internet for me.

>>92302371
i chuckled but really it was

>[Muffled "Bling Blong"]

>>92301367
>Mission Hill
>""""""90s""""""""
kek

>>92302351
Hipster wants to live Andy and Jim life, but they care too much about trivial stuff to be really like them, basically Hipster wants to pretend to be chill, while Andy and Jim are genuinely chill people

>>92302240
>hipsters wear cheap thrift store clothes that are bad on purpose
>no wait they wear designer shit!

>>92302351
No one fucking knows because it's a fluid term used to describe cool people when cool is always changing.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hdWxo3e3Kzk

>>92302860
Sounds like "hipster" was a vague buzzword before "SJW".

>>92294506
>The moment when you realize you were a Kevin in your teen years and your brother just wanted to help you to be more confident, but you always thought he was trying to antagonize you

I'm so sorry Nicholas

>>92294506
Yeah.

>>92294506
HD rips of Mission Hill eps when?

>>92294713
Fuck he's hideous, Rebecca Sugar is pretty damn ugly herself but even she could do better.

>>92294506
>THESE ARE GONNA SLIDE RIGHT OFF YOU CHEAP GAY BASTARD
Yep

>>92294535
Fastest way to get (you)'s 101

>>92295061
>Were Andy and Jim hipsters?

Yes, definitely. But like, early 2000s, wave 1 hipsters, back before they became a bespoke movement of bearded, tattooed thrift shoppers demanding free range vinyl and cruelty free soy bowties.
The first wave of semi-affluent college graduates to find cheap urban squatting grounds that would eventually (although not really because Jim and Andy both got cushy marketing jobs) get priced out of the neighborhood along with most of the other characters.

>>92301486
>>92302539
it definitely has that pre 9/11 feeling that will never be replicated

>>92302966
Literally every stupid argument you see online nowadays is the SAME GODDAMN SHIT people have been fighting over since the 80s.

>>92301059

First gay couple kiss where the characters weren't based on gay stereotypes.

>>92302966
Can't speak for anywhere beyond 4chan and other nerd bunkers, but here, yeah basically. People hate SJWs because they're fake and insert themselves among the sincere to the point they overtake groups, just like hipsters. Those are the broadest definitions for both, and the ones people often zero in on.

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>>92294506
animation? yes
live action? not by a long shot

>>92306912
It sounds like people who throw these words around are just comfortably judging people as fake based on shallow criteria from a safe place.

Also those two gophers from Looney Toons Show are the best gay couple.

>>92309291
>Also those two gophers from Looney Toons Show are the best gay couple.
I thought they were brothers? That cartoon is amazing btw

>>92301190
This show was great because for all the goofy city antics there were times where it got incredibly fucking real and it was amazing. The elevator ride in the second unemployment episode is a great example of this, and I bet damn near everyone here who is in their twenties knows exactly how the Andy felt hearing the constant "you have to get a good foothold in your mid twenties" coming from all around.

>>92294506
I think so, Wally and Gus show a great level of awareness towards the unorthodox nature of their gay sexytime and never get it on in public to make a political statement.

>>92294535
They're insanely co-dependent and are so obsessed with each other that they've actively ruined things for their friends on more than one occasion.

Shit tier relationship.

>>92299268
Yes, and?

>>92294506
That depends. Are Lenny and Carl gay?

>>92309448
If they're brothers, they're the nicest brothers in TV history.

https://youtu.be/7vZX86vvzk4

>that shared ice cream cone they lick together
>that stretch to rhyme with "gray"
>that fucking wink when they say "best friends"

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>>92301459
And what might those be, exactly?

>>92310110
Daffy and Bugs are also massively homo in their cohabitation.
>Lest we forget Bug's reaction to Lola

>>92310155
I want to like Milo, but oh my god, there has never been a bigger clickbait attention whore. He's an embarrassment to whatever issue he supports.

I want to keep this /co/ related, has he put out anything about comics or cartoons?

>>92294535
Lame

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>>92310217
>I want to keep this /co/ related, has he put out anything about comics or cartoons?
Fuck, I wish.
Just featured in political cartoons.
And a few web comics making a meme of the, "Darling."

>>92306035
Nah. Its the perfect pairing

>>92310202
Why are homosexuals so afraid of bisexuals?

>>92295131
Topaz was referred to as "her" and "she", so there goes that.

>>92310284
Not that guy but what? Where are you getting this from?

>>92310284
Scared nothing.
Bugs is scared.
Look at that crazy bitch, no wonder he went after twisted duck dick.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BcmszvitGc

>>92310321
That show made everyone different then how they usually are. I wouldn't base it off that alone.

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>>92310388
Did they, though?

>>92294506
that's not Yuri on Ice

>>92310419
>Yuri
Lesbians are easier to present

>>92310255
Reminds me of his appearance in Shredded Moose. And that reminds me of Shredded Moose. What the fuck happened to that comic? It seemed to have disappeared after /co/ ripped it apart, resurfaced for GG under what appeared to be new management, then it fucked off for good. It's as if the creator realized he embodied everything anyone serious about an issue doesn't want to be associated with and, in a surprise twist, did the noble thing.

>>92310453
Yuri is the name of one of the male leads. He's half russian

>>92310284
>>92310314

Bisexuals have a long degree of distrust among both gays and straights because they're stereotyped as afraid of commitment. Among the same sex there's the fear that they're going to go straight at any time and are often shunned in gay clubs.

>>92310474
I wanna send that faggot to space

>>92310496
>often shunned in gay clubs.
You really need to get out of the house.
And stop using Tumblr and Buzzfeed as your trusted news sources.

>>92294506
>Didn't hide their relationship but also didn't revel in it to make it their only trait
Tis pretty good.

>>92306035
He's nearly /ourguy/ material, at least; his reactions to the Steven Universe Edits tumblr were great

>>92310284
Think of it like this: what's more emasculating than being cucked by a woman?

>>92310542
Says the guy whose never stepped foot into a club.

>>92296843
>i'm wrong
>you are retarded
4chan the post

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>this thread

I want to leave this planet.

>>92301129
but they are married.

>>92310496
Not only is that a shitty opinion, it has nothing to do with Looney Tunes Show. I'm glad you got to get that off your chest though.

>>92294535
But they are hetero two different (not really) types of gems.

>>92310255
Taric is awesome is nice to have a flamboyant hero again, but i'm not sure if he's gay

>>92310419
Pandering=/=Gay

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>>92301441

>>92294763
>t. part time gimp

Only on /co/ do I immediately accept this sort of thing as the truth.

>>92313912
You've clearly never visited /m/

>>92313327
All gay is pandering
But not all pandering is gay. Sometimes it's lesbian.

>>92314171
Is straight pandering?

>>92314361
yes. I don't want to see any of that shit in a cartoon

>>92314361
yes.

No. The best gay character is a character that just happens to be gay, not one who's character us being gay.

>>92310217
Iktf. Completely agree with everything he says (well, except the Greek Love stuff), but he acts like such a massive douche-knocker.