SECRET EMPIRE #2 LETTERED PREVIEW

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Whoops

>>92273568
Hope Summers saves the day?

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HYDRA Strange John Tyler Christopher Action Figure Variant

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Andrea Sorrentino HYDRA Storm Variant

>>92273539
>>92273568
>Cap causes 9/11
Spencer is just trying his hardest to pull a House of M on Steve Rogers isn't he?

Does he not realize that nobody gives a shit about Sam Wilson and his BLM Schlick? And that even trying to make Steve into Hitler/Trump/Putin won't make people like Sam?

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J. Scott Campbell Connecting Variant (top)

>>92273628
>Darkforce
>Either black or involved with someone that's black.
What the fuck, Spencer?!

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Superior Octopus Dan Mora (colored by Edgar Delgado) HYDRAvenger Variant


FIN

>>92273628
Did Mockingbird get another outfit?

>>92273767
that's jean grey. there are phoenix symbols

I lteraly could not tell what was happening or who anyone was in #0. Trash art, man.

>>92273798
is it just me, or are normally good artists not putting forth their best effort for marvel these days?
i noticed this with McNiven's half-assed work on SE #1, and Dodson's dog shit Generation X cover too

>>92273798
why don't Cambell do interiors anymore

Rich Johnson spoiled some stuff from 2 and 3:
https://www.bleedingcool.com/2017/05/05/10-things-can-tell-reading-secret-empire-2-3-oh-uprising-1-spoilers/

Issue 2 ends with a twist challenging the reading public’s interpretation of the entire series. It all depends on your view over what’s going on. And there will be multiple interpretations. But that will be a matter for debate. It is also possible if that event had been seeded more strongly earlier in the Captain America run that there would be a lot less fuss right now. But that will be a matter for debate.
Issue 3 makes it slightly clearer, but hardly crystal. But there will still be debate.
The big division in Secret Empire #2 is between the surviving heroes those who want to go on a quest to reassemble the cosmic cube to change reality, pursued by Hydra who want to do the same – and those who want to kill Captain America. At least they don’t go to war with each other over it though.
Rocket Raccoon uses the name “Stevil” for Captain America.
Yes, they have Hydra Youth.
You should google for “Overton window” before reading issue 3.
And read this page of Dazzler #21 from 1992 before reading Secret Empire: Uprising #1… A little girl on sunlit lawn…
You won’t find out any more about what happened with Scarlet Witch, the Vision or Deadpool to make them Hydra Avengers. But the Free Comic Book Day issue might give you a hint.
Issue 3 ends with a familiar Marvel hero declaring themselves to be Hydra. No brainwashing, no fluoride in the water, but it makes a lot of sense.
The Freelancers are back.

I'm phoneposting, sorry if that fucks up

>>92274311
>Issue 3 ends with a familiar Marvel hero declaring themselves to be Hydra. No brainwashing, no fluoride in the water, but it makes a lot of sense.

Place bets?

>>92274494
It's Spider-Man.

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>>92273744
>Strange is Hydra

>>92274634
What's her name?

>>92273628
Did Quicksilver, Hercules and Mockingbird die?

>>92274494
>Place bets?

Any white character, most likely male.

>>92274494
cyclops, he comes back from the dead then declares himself hydra

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>>92273539

dat wonderman panel.... I have a marvel trading card that has him in pretty much that exact pose just flipped or at a diff angle

>>92274950
Shit, that makes sense in a shitty decision-making way.

>>92274494

America, just to drive the subtlety.

>>92274808

Peggy "Pignose" McGee

>>92273628
>>claire
she ruined iron fist now she is going to ruin this event... bravo marvel

>>92275203
>>92273628
>NN is back
>Claire
>not Christine
MCU BTFO HOW WILL THEY EVER RECOVER?!

>>92274494
Nigg Fury
or Abigail Brand
or Maria Hill
Just kidding, they' never do that.

>>92274950
I think you mean
>cyclops comes back from the dead then declares himself Hitler

>>92275368
Hill would be the safest bet. She's already cunt so siding with the bad/not really bad guys would make the most sense.

>>92275368
Brand's stuck in space in Adam Strange's stolen spacesuit

>>92274494
Miles, Kamala or any of the minority pet characters would be ideal, but Spencer doesn't have the balls.

It'll probably be Vision.

>>92275415
Yes, but it wouldn't fit with Marvel's Poochie politics.

>>92274634
it's just a variant cover, r-right?

>>92275556
My guess is that it's Magneto.

My guess is that Cap's going to call in Magneto to help him, probably with and eye towards the notion that Cap needs Magneto in his inner circle explicitly because they don't see eye to eye and because of that, Magneto will be far more honest with Cap/enable Cap to be less ruthless and keep the others on the Hydra Council in check.

As for the issue #2-3 twist, I'm going to go with the new Madam Hydra is the real villain/Cap is brainwashed by her via cosmic cube with Skull as her proxy henchman.

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>Not-So Secret Diversity Empire

>>92277733
>Secret Empire
>been public since they took control

>>92274494
Hank Pym?

>>92277885
currently >>96 'd

>>92274494
Probably Pymtron. Or maybe unworthy thor.
>>92277679
Steve killed the Red Skull and purged nazism from Hydra. Plus, he believes in the strength of superior men. He's got enough in common with magneto to forge an alliance.

>>92273785
I like Sam. I don't think he's a Bad Cap. He just has a bad writer on him. The character works tho.

>>92277679
My guess is that Madame Hydra is the one pulling the strings because she is in league with Cthlon (or whatever that creatures is that made the Darkhold) and they want to use the Cosmic Cube to bring more powerful Magic back into existence within the MU, now that Reed and his son are mostly done remaking 616.

I also hope that this whole thing ends with Reed and his son returning from their trip through the multiverse, find out what happened, and just go, "yeah, nah, fuck all that," remove the force field, warp down to Cap, and fix the brainwashing done by Kobik.

>>92277759
wasn't there an evil organization called Secret Empire already?

>>92279417
Yeah; they stole the name for the event, since Hydra is too radioactive for it to work given the backlash

(Secret Empire was the KKK/science wing of Hydra that replaced AIM when it got spun off into it's own group independent of Hydra; Richard Nixon was their leader. Their last major storyline was an aborted arc from Moon Knight where they Johnny Got His Gunned Moon Knight's sidekick Midnight and then rebuilt him into a cyborg, a storyline that ended up getting resolved in the pages of Spider-Man of all places)

I'm betting the surprise name that goes Hydra is Tony; they promised he'd be back in Secret Empire and given the shit storm that happened when Bendis revealed Miles would be the one to take down Steve, I can see Spencer having Tony be the one for the sake of fucking with Bendis and generally speaking, trying to build a bromance moment with Steve being saved by Tony from Natasha/Miles and Tony being the one who restores Steve to normal

>>92277733
They shoulda called them the surprise empire

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>>92273539
>>92273568
>Captain Hydra bombs Vegas to kill the diversiteens
>lets them freely search for survivors because lol evil

>>92274536
Rich claims it's not

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>>92279417
Yes, they were the 3rd string group running around in red robes.

hey is the order secret empire 0, NCBD, 1 ?

>>92279417

they've already had an agent as president

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>>92274950
the only marvel character who could potentially out strategize Cap is dead... feels bad man

>>92280141

Superior Foes was cancelled, so Spencer turned Secret Empire from a bunch of goofs in robes into the one thing he knew would sell: a terrible event comic.

This is his revenge.

>>92279639
if nick spencer actually goes out his way to piss bendis off, i'll take back every bad thing i've ever said about him

>>92273628
JUST IN TIME FOR THEIR TV SHOW CLOAK AND DAGGER!

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>>92280392

>>92278581
Thor is already on the HydrAvengers and Pymtron is the antagonist of #4 since he has the last shard of the Cube

Magneto joining Hydra would just reek of "SEE?! I told you Hydra aren't Nazis! They're so far from Nazis I made a Holocaust survivor join them! Totally un-Nazi like!" It would be "I have a black friend" in comic book narrative form

>>92280377
Same.

>>92274494
Strange?

>>92273486
>#2 and #3 are bleaker in tone

WHAT A SELLING POINT

>>92273628
Why isn't Wonder Man listed with the Underground?

>>92280392
You do realize that it makes perfect sense for Cloak and Dagger to be involved in a story about the DARKFORCE DIMENSION, right? They're probably gonna be everyone's ticket out of there.

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>>92280520
>It would be "I have a black friend" in comic book narrative form

Made me think of this.

>>92281769
half of the stuff in the HydraCap storyline is basically that except replace racist with Nazi and black friend with some narrative contrivance to distance Hydra from the Nazis

>>92273628
Why no Daredevil? He's on the cover and he would be completely unaffected by the darkness.

>>92281903
why no Doctor Strange? Why no Spider-man?

where the fuck even IS Spider-man in all this?

>>92274494
Namor

>>92281936
Peter Parker is too busy fighting the Superior Octopus and his attacks on Parker Industries over in ASM's tie-in to the event.

>>92274494
Hydo-man who, after the reveal, renames himself Hydra-man.

>>92281936
>where the fuck even IS Spider-man in all this?
invading a sovereign nation to assassinate its shadow leader aka normal osborne

>>92281769
Spencer is such a twat.
I wonder if he want to be the new Byrne.

>>92282392
What do you mean by "new Byrne"?

>>92274808
Elsa Jean or something like that.

>>92274494
Sunspot
Blackwidow

>>92281936
Where is Doom, while we're at it.

>>92273926
Thank you for spotting the slight subtlety.

>>92274038
>implying McNiven didn't rush #1
>implying he has no chance drawing one of the August issues

>>92273928
More like trash editorial

>>92274168
He's as slow as Liefeld.

>>92274311
>implying it isn't a pasta

>>92274853
Obviously no. You forgot the cover to the one shot SECRET EMPIRE - UNDERGROUND.

>>92280217
Yes.

>>92280141
They recently reappeared in the first issue of U.S.Avengers and disowned their group name.

>>92282086
The upcoming Secret Empire tie-in issues will reveal if HYDRA has to do with that or not.

>>92280141
Just wait and see. These guys will be surprise final boss of the event.

>>92274494

Wasn't this spoiled in solicits? It's Deadpool.

>>92273628
Surely they haven't killed of Hercules? He's still in the Avenger title + He's nearly indestructible, and if Hawkeye can survive those Robot death lasers Hercules definitely should be able to.

+ If Hawkeye isn't furious about Mockingbird then Spencer is gonna lose a lot of good will.

Mind you, #1 was my favourite opening to an Event since Secret Wars

>>92274168
He's slow and most likely makes enough from covers and commissions to get by

>>92273668
>Danny's face
top fucking lele

>>92274634
he's not, it's probably intended to be some sort of propaganda tool that reimagines strange as a hydra loyalist

>>92273744
How many fucking covers like this has this guy done? Will he ever be able to go back drawing normal moving human figures?

>>92280217
Yes. FCBD is meant to be the attack on DC that's about to start at the end of issue 0 and they reference as being what allowed them to take over in issue 1.

Unfortunately, since it was only 8 pages and Sorrentino's art was fucking inscrutable, it's practically impossible to know what's going on.

>>92274494
black widows

how is it a secret empire if everyone knows about it?

did they change the artist inbetween issues?

>>92289333
they have like three artists working on this to avoid delays like CW2 and Secret Wars had

>>92274634
he isn't. madame hydra has him trapped in the dark dimension.

do you even fucking read the book you are bitching about

>>92273697
>You losers realize we're on a clock right?
>~smirk~

Spencer...I hate you.

>>92289585
those two things are not mutually exclusive

>>92273539
>>92273568
Captain America of all people knows the importance of good PR, how would the extra-clever Captain Keikaku allow this?

Hydra is capable of targeted strikes, but don't, and then when the heroes they're targeting show up, they ignore them?

>>92274906
That's the vast majority of characters.

>>92273697
>weak sissy men saved by STRONK WOMYN
yeah, we haven't had that one yet.

>>92290344
His husbando Zemo said to do it so he did it.