X-Men Gold

>>92260539
Um...so unlike other races where they have an actual country of origin, Mutants are born in every country to every race, so where the fuck would they get deported to? Does this writer even know how mutants work?

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>>92260603
the best (or worst) part about this, is the political pandering is obvious and they're no longer hiding it behind obscure references to Indonesian politics and the Quran.

The writers are now making it obvious.

>>92260603
>Does the man who singlehandly tanked arrow know anything
No. The answer is no.

>>92260603

>where the fuck would they get deported to?

Like she said, to some random place so mutants could live among their own kind.

Obviously this is treated like some huge fucking crime in OP's pic for the sake of making a point about immigration but ultimately "illegal immigration discrimination" and "mutant discrimination" are nigh-incomparable.

I don't know much about X-Men lore but a land set aside for mutant habitation for their own, and human, safety sounds like a stellar idea that most everyone would agree with.

X-Men gold my ass. Marvel is still political crap pandering. There is no hope for them.

>>92260603
Genosha I guess.

they ever rebuild that shit hole?

The confusing part is that they have fucking Kid Gladiator reacting to this instead of any of the American mutants.

>>92260682
Heritage Initiative? Damn, that's obvious. So $%^&* glad I'm reading Blue and not Gold.

>>92260539

>have the ability to control people's minds, shoot lasers, are practically immortal in some cases and lift entire cities, walk through walls
>not a threat to liberty or humanity
>not being within regular individual's rational self interest to deport/monitor/control them

You see, this is kind of where the whole superhero genre power falls apart. Unless they fell under the purview of government surveillance or regulation, they're a threat.

>>92261266

And it's always written as "they should be allowed to do whatever they want, go wherever they want, and threaten people of power and authority whenever they want, and get away with it all, because they're right, they know what's best, they know what needs to be done."

If you have to live in that world, you're not going to support any of that.

>>92261936

>If you have to live in that world, you're not going to support any of that.

I'm right behind you, up until I start growing antlers or shooting lasers. Then fuck Sapiens.

>>92260539
X-Men has always been political. It was based on the Civil Rights movement.
Hell the X came from Malcom X.

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>>92260727

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>>92261094
>Trumpkin gets triggered
lmao

>>92262726

Don't fall for the revisionist history, anon. The X stood for their 'X-tra' powers. The idea for mutants came from Lee and Kirby not wanting to think up origins for characters anymore, that's all.

Aside from a brief moment here or there, there's very little in the 1960s or 1970s X-Men books that's really about oppressed minorities or civil rights.

In the Lee/Kirby era, there's "a mutant uses his powers to cheat at sports, and an angry mob gathers.....but it's just a disguised Toad, luring the X-Men into a trap", and then there's Trask building the Sentinels as a direct response to the threat posed by Magneto and the Brotherhood, of mutants enslaving humans, but it quickly turns into a story about fear of artificial intelligence, fear of being destroyed by our own creations, as the Sentinels turn against humans.

It's not until the 1980s during the Claremont era, that the civil rights analogy really starts to become a thing, no matter how much anyone before then wants to take credit for it.

>>92260887

Well, he is an illegal alien.

>>92262706

It's selfish and irresponsible of you to want to go antlering around wherever you want and think you can just get away with it, anon.

>>92260777
No it sounds retarded considering that mutants are born at complete random. A mutant can be born to two mutants (as can a human), or even two humans. Sorting that shit out would be impossible. And let's not even get started on Inhumans now that they're scattered out as well

>>92263274

That all seems irrelevant. Having a land or location available purely for mutants to live in and govern would at least be one viable option for some of the problems mutants cause and face, amongst others.

>>92260821
The character directly mentions Genosha and Utopia. While randomly deporting mutants is wrong, why not establish Genosha and Utopia as US protectorates?

>>92263565
Oh really?

>Genosha
Sentinel'd

>Providence
Intervention'd

>X-Men post HoM
Purifier'd

>San Fran complex
Osborn'd

>Utopia
Avenger'd

Every single time the mutants get together to live somewhere in harmony they get attacked and nearly wiped out. It's a ridiculous proposition at this point - "I swear, THIS TIME we won't send giant murder bots/crazy assassins/technophile fundies/whatever to kill you, pinky promise!"

YOU'RE FUCKIN A NON-MUTANT MALE

>>92263763
Genosha was Cassandra Nova, Providence wasn't the X-Men, the Purifiers operate independently, and AvX was completely justified on the Avengers part due to the intelligence available to them.

You also forgot Asteroid M.

>>92263763
Fuck, they even got attacked in Limbo didn't they?

Meanwhile Inhumans got treated as a sovereign nation, and the only reason they're being persecuted and the Mutants aren't is because Steven knows how much bullshit the muties have been putting up with, so he leaves them be, and because they don't want to get Sentinel'd again, they're like "Fuck those Inhumans."

>>92260539
Isn't this a plot point for the X books every other year?

>>92263909
Inhumans are a pre-existing nation that had already been recognized by the UN back in Jenkins miniseries. It also helps that the monarch of said nation could immediately wipe out one of your major cities before you could react.

>>92263230
The right to bear antlers SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED!

>>92263763
Hey, with that kind of thinkinging, they should have abandoned NYC already, if not the entire earth.

>>92264144
The Inhumans did that before. Remember when they used to live on the Moon for that exact same reason?

Where is the Royals' HQ nowadays anyway? I haven't been keeping up with the Inhumans.

>>92264068
That was the whole idea for Regenesis-era Utopia - become an actual, recognized nation, with the force to back up their sovereignty.

The Extinction Team had more than one meaning, after all - they were there to deal with (human) extinction-level threats, to prevent the extinction of mutantkind, and, well, as an intimidation tactic.

>>92264210
I got too distracted by the KEKening to keep track.

>>92263960
It's once every 3 in democratic, administrations, every year in republican.

Since we're in a political period of full retardation, it's no suprise the comics are follwoiing suit.

>>92260539
Isn't that Kid Gladiator, the alien?

>>92263079
The civil rights/minority analogy always falls apart when you realize gays don't shoot lasers whenever they open their eyes. That's a genuine concern for everyone.

>>92264068
>It also helps that the monarch of said nation could immediately wipe out one of your major cities before you could react.
So violence is the answer you say?

>>92260539
>actually addressing the fact that America has dis-proportionally big superhuman populations
>giving mutants their own country like they (as they point out) already had and lost
What exactly about this is evil????

>>92263898
>You also forgot Asteroid M
That right there is something Mutants should be doing more: Leaving 616 Earth because it's batshit crazy.

Honestly, Lila Cheney's Dyson Sphere gives them energy and resources to build a civilization that's far away from Purifiers and other anti-mutant hate groups. All the examples listed like Genosha, Providence, San Francisco, Utopia were on Earth.

Even Avalon and Asteroid M were within Earth's astrodynamic sphere of influence. Ideally, you want to be thousands of light years away from 616 humanity.

Look at the sliding timescale. All that shit that happened since the 1960's when 616 continuity took off in the modern age has been compressed to 10-15 years within universe. All that crazy shit that was linked to mutants like Fatal Attractions or Xorn mass-murdering New Yorkers happened within months of each other. No shit, humans are going apeshit against mutants and other powered beings.

>>92264700
well, the best way to be recognized and respected is the ability to wreck other people's shit if they don't.

>>92264849
I'd actually like to see this as a What If - Mutant Repatriation Laws have been in effect for a century, and the Xavier-Lensherr (or Eisenhardt if anyone even remembers that anymore) Dyson Sphere, commonly known as "Superia" hosts the entire population of Homo Superior, numbering tens of millions of mutants.

Earth's gone to hell for whatever reason, and because there are no real off-world colonies, Homo Sapiens are trying to migrate there because it's the closest thing humanity has to a recognizable second home.

It would be interesting to see how mutants would react to this reversal of fortunes.

>reading anything marvel

/co/ please

>>92264700
What is the ONE thing that South Park censored itself on and never brought back?

>>92264849
>That right there is something Mutants should be doing more: Leaving 616 Earth because it's batshit crazy.
Hell, EVERYONE should be leaving. Human. Mutant. All of them.

>>92265027
This is something Marvel would never do because it lacks the creativity or oversight to allow an alternate universe like this to be properly fleshed out. 80's and 90's What If? writers could because they were professionals AND talented.

>>92265120
It baffles me that 616 humanity has yet to colonize space. I mean, I get how the rest of the universe treats 616 Earth like a petri dish gone rogue and is now considered to be a detrimental bio-hazard, but with all the super-science and tech at their disposal, humans should be a pioneering civilization by now.

>>92260539
>the US having more mutants than China, India, or Russia combined

Does Guggenheim know nothing at-fucking-all about demographics and population figures?

>>92265261
Dude, this is something that US cape comics whether DC or Marvel has done for decades: The US is the only country that matters. We're the strongest and richest nation on Earth and of course, we should have most (if not all) of the world's super-powered beings.

Can you honestly expect manchildren neckbeards read stories about non-American heroes?

>>92260777
They've had a few of these.

Genosha, Utopia, arguably Cable's floating island (though that was more of an "everyone welcome but cut the bullshit" place), maybe the school in Limbo.

Each time it doesn't work because mutant haters or some other force doesn't like it and destroys it or otherwise causes it to end. In Cable's island's case, it was actually the X-men that fucked it up.

So if this "racist" group is proposing to give them somewhere else to go and do their thing... what's the problem?

>>92265464
/co/ said that even if mutants were millions of miles away from Earth and no possible threat to 616 humans, nutjobs like the Purifiers or Friends of Humanity would still hunt down mutants and exterminate them.

>>92263763
The thing is, each of these times it was mutants creating these places, often within sovereign territories of other nations.

If the government (or the world's governments) were to set up a place for them to live and, more importantly, learn to control their powers, with funding and security and shit, it could work.

>>92265541
This is why the Blue Area of the Moon is where mutants should set up shop in.

>>92265231
>It baffles me that 616 humanity has yet to colonize space.

Arguably, they kind of have.

There's been stories with humans having small colonies in Mars or some shit, and not too long ago some scientists created a whole Earth replica in a F4 book.

If anything, I'd imagine SWORD and SHIELD and other agencies actively discourage human expansion into space.

Not to mention every alien race out there hates us.

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>>92260539
>comic with kitty pride
Was there ever a comic with her, who wasnt political? A jewish mutant NEEDS to be a pain in the ass. Deadpool took her off, before she could grow to a problem. Be like Deadpool aka the guy with the best comicbookrun at Marvel atm.

>>92260539
It's an absurdly stupid argument too. Supers are the most powerful weapons in the world, and she wants US to ship them overseas and let everyone else have them instead?

>>92260539
Political crap will always be a part of X-Men comics, get the fuck over it. Bigger question is what's Kid Gladiator doing back on earth?

>>92263763

Genosha
Harmony

Pick one.

Everyone forgets that 2 issues before Cassandra Nova's Sentinels destroyed Genosha, Magneto was gathering a mutant army there to declare war on the entire world, an intention he had made the whole planet aware of.

Utopia, especially after Schism, was also deliberately and intentionally choosing the role of a rogue nation, threatening the world.

How many tears are people going to shed if some lone madman sends an army of robots to destroy North Korea and everyone in it?

How many less tears are they going to shed if the people of North Korea are 100% superhumans?

Providence wasn't "a mutant nation", there were all kinds of people there, and it was destroyed in a mutant vs mutant conflict.

That just leaves the Xavier school, and San Francisco, large gatherings of mutants in secret compounds, the type of thing people get panicky about when it's powerless humans doing a cult. When it's a large gathering of superhumans, that's even scarier.

>>92264210

The Inhumans actually moved to the Moon due to increasing levels of pollution in Earth's atmosphere, that were poisoning them.

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>>92260539

Quick question, but how many of the X-Men or other mutants are residing in the US illegally? Does Kurt Wagner have US citizenship? Piotr? How many could you make a legitimate legal case for deporting back to their country of origin? Because I somehow doubt that when they find new mutants in other countries and bring them to the school they go through proper channels.

>>92260539

What are you, a fucking casual? Or just an alt-right "alternative facts" asshole?

X-MEN'S VERY EXISTENCE IS A METAPHOR FOR THE CIVIL RIGHTS ERA.

Shut up.

>>92266545

Black people and illegal immigrants can't shoot lasers out of their eyes, manipulate the weather, control minds, or blow themselves up with the force of a tactical nuke.

>>92265349
DC's metagene is triggered by extreme and unusual trauma so it makes more sense that metahumans are more common in heavily industrialized countries. I don't know if its still canon due to Flashpoint, but Russia had enough metahumans to form multiple state super teams alongside superpowered army units. China killed a lot of their metahumans seeing them as a threat to stability.

It also helps that canonically DC has far, far few superpowered being than Marvel.

>>92266545
>>92266570
This is why X-Men have been a flawed idea from the start. Socio-political metaphors are hamfisted and trite, especially in today's climate.

>>92266545

Stop believing the revisionist history, anon. The 1960s and 1970s X-Men comics are not about civil rights.

>>92260539
Son of the ruler of the biggest galactif empire
>acts like an oppressed minority
Just punched Shi'Ar gods and enjoyed every bit of it
>scared by mean earthian woman
Bravo Guggenheim! Bravo Editor-kun!

>>92265120
>It is the year 2022, and everyone's left the Earth
>Humans went to several different colonies, mutants did their own thing, Inhumans are on the Moon or Hala or who gives a fuck
>Years pass, and nature starts retaking the major cities
>No human has been on Earth in so long the animals have forgotten to fear us
>Until, one day
>"Haha! You thought you've seen the last of me, Fantastic Four! But the MOLE MAN always comes back!"
>"Fantastic Four?"
>"Richards?"
>"Anyone?"
>...

And that is how the Mole Man became King of Earth.

>>92263079
And all of that sound more interesting than the failed civil rights concept of the x-men

>>92269655
In practice it really wasn't. The civil rights concept was something that made the X-Men stand out and could be used to add depth to the stories. It's simply become overplayed and muddled over the years, mainly due to the increasing tolerance of society and the fact that without the radicalization of the 70s civil rights movements the metaphor doesn't work as well.