Detective Comics #956 Storytime

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Unexpectedly hyped for this.

ras kills siva

>>92252341
Hyped to see how King writes Joker and if he'll shave off Riddler's fucking sideburns.

>>92252369
good

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I've been going through O'neil's The Question for the last few weeks, and am beginning to understand the pain.

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Press S to pay respects

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Won cigam ew.

SRELIOPS rof skeew owt ni nruter!

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>>92252441
God i hate cass.

>>92252456
Sentences don't also go backwards in magic talk.

>>92252450
Kate's such a dyke


>>92252488
I don't like any of Tynion's versions of these characters. Including /co/'s darling Clayface.


>>92252509
scimoc erom daeR

>>92252395
unexpected unf

So we don't know what was altered from Bruce's memories by Ra's nor what Shiva was talking about?

And Ra's killed Shiva in front of everyone and no one gave a crap?

The fuck.

>>92252521
It doesn't. Read good comics.

>>92252570
Yes. It is now canon that nobody gives a crap about Shiva. It's also canon that she has a bullet wound in her butt.

>>92252431
At least he has proper trigger discipline

>>92252521
>scimoc erom daeR
This very run showed in a previous issue that only the words and not the sentences go backwards. What the fuck are you talking about?

>all these dialogue filled double spreads
disgusting

>>92252464
>that WW
Thanks mr skeltal

>>92252571
>>92252613
my bad, I see what you mean now

>>92252579
No one ever gave a gave about shiva outaide of some third world waife fag

>>92252431
I'm hitting F anyway

F

>>92252450
Kate looks so handsome in a suit
sploosh

Im glad shiva is dead she has been shit for uears longer than she was ever "good" and she was grrrl power sjw femanazi nonsense

>>92252570
She'll get revived in the lazarus pits. Regardless, this run is fucking horrible.

>>92252488
She is cancer.

>>92252627
that's no way to talk about O'Neil's Question

So this really means that Bruce is Cass' biological father. He only doesn't know it because his memory was wiped with magic.

>>92252661
It was a shit
>lol heres batman but worse in detroit

>>92252648
>>>/tumblr/

>>92252675
Im against that you fucker. If you defend a mary sue sjw character like shiva you belong on tumblr

>>92252683
>>>/tumblr/

>>92252663
No.

>>92252694
No anon you and anyone who likes this shit character is tumblr. Im this site and we hate characters like this. Like really a girl is better than a mab at anything? Let alone fighting

>>92252334
God Tynion is such a hack

Im just glad clayface didnt die or turn evil again

>>92252648
Holy buzzwords Batman

>>92252706
you bring up gender politics like they are worth discussing at all, you belong on tumblr.

>>92252725
It's only a matter of time.

>>92252737
Its relevant because the idea that a girl is better than a man let alone batman at fighting is farcical and deserves ridicule for being sjw nonsense

>>92252738
Yeah but clayface isnt a list bat villain like riddler so hopefully? Also there are like 5 otger clayfaces if they want an evil one

All of this just seems so derivative and tired. This book sucks.

>>92252771
How much faith do you have that the writer can resist writing the tragic fall and relapse of the great Clayface?

>>92252369
Lazarus pit have you heard of it you dumb fuck.

>>92252791
1%. Mostly due to the other clayfaces

>>92252456
Is Zatanna time?

>>92252835
>missing memories.
>brucr knows zatanna erased his memories in part of time that was erased

>>92252423
Her name has always been Sandra?

I also hope no one ever bothers to use the mutism card when discussing Cass because at this point she most certainly is not mute. She can talk properly and had Clayface giving her books to read.

I still don't know what Shiva was trying to do other than blow up Gotham, what the League of Shadows was about other than being more shadowy than the League of Assassins, what Ra's keikaku is other than wanting Shiva dead, or why Shiva was even in the book since the whole thing had very little to do with her relation with Cassandra, or even what Batman role is in all of this other than trying to protect Cass and saving Gotham.

It's like... a bunch of shit as alluded throughout the run, but none of it received a resolution.

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>>92252456
YaY, it's finally time.

>>92252456
Gah, out-of-character bitch Steph next time

>>92253143

How is that out of character? Stephanie Brown has always been a cunt.

Hm, what's Black Mask been up to lately?

You guys hate everything, especially anything Batman that isn't Grant Morrison. So fucking predictable. Get his cock out of your mouths.

was there ever a reason to why Shiva was so good?
Cass has her autism powers but what's the deal with Shiva?

>>92253195
No, I just hate Tynion.

>>92252456
Eviv Bulgroz!

>>92252431
Ra's with a rifle will never not look weird but cool

>>92252431
>adftgfd afs sefhk
what did she mean by this?

also S

at least we have All-Star today too

>>92252450
>Kate still has short hair
Why do you do this to me? She looks so fucking hot when she doesn't look like a raging dyke.

>>92252456
Oh shit I totally forgot that Zatanna was in the upcoming arc.
>>92252521
How the actual fuck can you not like Clayface?

>>92252738
People have been saying that about Lex for years now.

>>92253143
You mean it's time for WILD CARD BITCHES!!

>>92252966


Yep.

>>92253223

Depends on the canon. Short version? She had potential. Her sister is killed. Sandra trains with the best and Shiva was born.

>>92253009
Yeah.. No reason why Shiva blew this up. No purpose to Cass's flashback with her pop. Ra's mind raped Bruce cause? No follow up on Carolyn. Just a waste.

>>92252456
Meh, at least Clayface continues to be the best part of this team. Looking forward to seeing Zatanna.

>>92253770
>Batman got mind raped again

Is he the more violated hero in DC?

>>92252334
>Azrael in this book

Someone finally dug Jean-Paul out of the closet? I've only been half reading Detective Comics.

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Seriously? That's IT?! THAT was the big fucking reveal that was supposed to please old school Shiva fans? Bringing back the motherfucking Detroit bullshit? Of ALL the things you could bring back about Shiva you bring back shit from the fucking Gabrych run? This is some fucking bullshit of the highest caliber.

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>>92252375
"No, my invincible clay monster. Don't effortlessly defeat this woman who poses zero threat to you but a tremendous threat to us. Instead, cart the wounded to safety."

Batman is a Tactical Genius™

>>92252341
If Tim Sale wasn't doing the variants I would have dropped batman when IASuicide ended with a second wet fart from King.

He seems to forget that Bruce Wayne isn't Wolverine, he's Batman. Assuming Sale continues with the variants I guess I'll get to see if this asshole can prove he's worth the cock sucking he gets around here.

I feel like Ras is going to be a major player in Dark Days of Reigning Forges of Terror or whatever the event is called. He's been showing up far too often lately.

>>92254254
The Tim Sale variants have been pretty crap except for a few. Get better taste.

>>92254254
>Bruce Wayne isn't Wolverine,
Bruce Wayne > Scott Summers.

>>92254331
I don't give a fuck about your shitty taste faggot. They lose Timmy, I have no reason to buy the refuse King has been writing.

>>92254354
You're so fucking retarded that you're buying a comic book you hate because of a variant. Furthermore, you're a tasteless bitch that's only buying them on name recognition alone and not quality.

>>92254347
Bruce being better than Scott doesn't really have anything to do with King giving bruce wayne a healing factor.

>>92254375
Look at your reaction to me spending money on something I want and tell me again who's retarded.

Also I never said I hated King's batman. Just that I found it to employ wet farts instead of satisfying endings.

I honestly wasn't feeling this arc outside of the quiet moments with Cass and the ballerina. I gotta say this issue really tied everything up well.

>>92252351
Neat variant

>>92252812
What you said, anon! :)

>>92255066
cass is a cunt.

>>92253009
>I still don't know what Shiva was trying to do other than blow up Gotham

Literally said that Ras has money & plans tied up into Gotham, did you actually not pay attention?

> what the League of Shadows was about other than being more shadowy than the League of Assassins

They were Ras' best like he said an issue or two ago

>gue of Shadows was about other than being more shadowy than the League of Assassins, what Ra's keikaku is other than wanting Shiva dead, or why Shiva was even in the book since the whole thing had very little to do with her relation with Cassandra

You really didn't read any of this did you

>>92253703
YES! I'm worried because the next issue has three writers, which to me signals either "we didn't have time" or "editorial didn't like the first and second drafts."

>>92255087
Damifag! How's it hanging? Oh, wait, they haven't dropped yet.

>>92255220
Only gay people and trannys like Cass.

I thought Cass's part in this was really nicely done. I really hope Tynion doesn't wait too long for Batman to fight Ra's and Shiva again - I'm not a fan of the hidden dialogue thing.

>>92252456
Identity crisis rebirth when?

>>92252521
>not enjoying temporary reformed Basil while it lasts

God you're just...so...wrong

>>92253627
Its at least growing in a bit. I like her duckbill.

>>92253143
Why do comic fans always screech "out of character!!!" when someone acts a way they dont like or would choose to write them? Steph is completely in keeping with her character

>>92253159
>what's Black Mask been up to lately?
Being a vegetable. Read RHATO

>>92255329
Hey it's the Damianfag!

>>92252450
>Zero Year

Still canon bitches

>>92252375

>send away the person with the biggest advantage over her

I guess it's to maintain drama, but still.

>>92256892
Aka crappy NML. :)

>>92256835
>the
Do you faggots really think there is only one person who likes damian?

>>92257042
There's only one of you who is this much of a blockhead. :)

I myself like Damian. I don't call people names because they don't.

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>>92252431
>>92253416

>>92257151
Funny the first anon said Cass is a cunt and was responded to with an assertion that his balls have yet to drop and was called Damifag.

Seems the actual faggots are the ones throwing names around.

>>92256973
Superior NML. No 90s babies shitting it up

>>92257165
kek

>>92252456
I've always wondered why someone like Batman, who has trained in virtually every single discipline and skill, doesn't have magic and stuff...

>>92257486
Same. You'd think a guy with such persistence and a thirst for power would have put some time into learning magic.

Or why he wouldn't just be a green lantern.

>>92257277
I said I didn't call people names if they didn't like Damian. I DO call Damifag names for hating all non-Damian characters.

>>92258219
It's not hating anyone to point out that only gay people and trannies like Cass. It's simple fact.

>>92258474
>It's a simple alternative fact
FTFY

>>92257277
Damifag is indeed an easily recognisable anon, who has no understanding of punctuation nor English grammar. She also prefers to use vulgar insults.

However, she is not a underage boy, but a girl, presumably from Asia or Middle East.

And she really, really like Damian.

>>92258546
I see damifag thrown around at random anons (me being one of them) a lot but the actual Damifag is a tripfag iirc.

>>92252456
We Injustice Year Three now?

>>92253703

THIS!!! xDxDxD LOVE HERRRR ;)

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>>92252334
>No new costume with bat ears and a cape for Cass
>No new codename for Cass
>No Bruce adopting Cass as his daughter
>We don't even get to see the ballet

What the fuck? Okay it's not like I needed the last three. They just would have been nice. Not needed but nice. But I really wanted the first one to happen, because the Orphan costume SUCKS! If Cass appears in the next issue and she's not in a new cool costume then fuck you Tynion!

>>92252999
You know someone can receive a book as a gift but not be able to read it, right? And no, she can't speak properly. She speaks in very short statements in this issue.

>>92260577
FRIEND! :)

>>92257486

Because, as ludicrous as it sounds, Batman is supposed to be grounded in reality instead of being one of the hundreds of superfucks who do whatever they please.

>>92261249
I tend to agree, which is why as good as it is, the Batwoman comics with their focus on the supernatural and Religion of Crime really don't work for me as a whole.

>>92261249
But that doesn't work when in reality, magic and psychic and supernatural stuff are things that any person can theoretically learn. Someone like Batman should be supernaturally powerful, it doesn't make sense for him to lack those skills.

Maybe I feel this way because I'm not grounded in reality myself...

>>92252456
Well, Cass is still on the team. I was wrong then, and Tynion didn't gave her the focus character treatment that he gave to Tim and Steph.

>>92261429
It's one of the many consequences of this being, you know, a story and not purporting to be a simulation of a universe. "Realistically" Batman should at least be a hedge mage (assuming that unless you have the right genetic profile/destiny, magic takes a lot of hard work), and his tech should be at least as good as any B-List villain (because even if he's not smart enough to invent something himself, he should be able to reverse-engineer it and has the resources to do so), however it's difficult to maintain the illusion of tension of he has that level of resources at his disposal, especially with multiple writers, not to mention the ripple effect that would logically follow throughout the world as all the weird shit bleeds out into normal life.

>>92261429
>But that doesn't work when in reality, magic and psychic and supernatural stuff are things that any person can theoretically learn.

I don't mean comic reality, I mean OUR reality. Batman doesn't have magic and can never learn magic because in OUR reality magic isn't real. It doesn't matter what is "real" in DC universe.

>>92260643
Yeah the ending felt abrupt.

Anyone else having this problem where they see one of these Tynion storytimes and they have to gather courage for like an hour before they can even read the first page? Or is it just me? I'm taking shots of Captain Morgan right now to prepare me for the first couple panels.

It's like you're called to identify the corpse of someone you loved and you don't want to look but you know you have to.

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>>92262267
>It's like you're called to identify the corpse of someone you loved and you don't want to look but you know you have to.
In my case it's more like the bones.

>>92262127
I was talking about our reality. All that stuff is real in our reality.

>>92262267
Man, I don't get that. I love Tynion! (OR AM I JT4 MYSELF?) (no)

>>92252441
Are Jean and Luke best boys now?

why is Tynion such a bad writer

>>92263098
What's bad about it? He's setting up a longterm arc with Batman, Ra's, and Shiva, while servicing Cass's character arc.

>>92262401

Go home /x/, you're drunk.

>>92252423
>>92252431
>Sandra
>Cassandra

wait

>>92264221
Blame Gabrych.

>>92264277
She was called Sandra a long time before Gabyrch. Question. Is did Puckett and Peterson plan this?

>>92263219
It needed Cass, Kate, and Bruce seeing the ballet.

>>92262267
What I do for every Marvel comic.

>>92264365
My bad. That would be a good question. But the only one you could ask would be Peterson. He's on tumblr. Of course. ;)

>>92264391
...that seems a bit unnecessary. I mean, it's a fairly complicated bit, which we've already had done twice already (in BR Eternal #7, and then in 950). The fact that we know it's going to happen is enough for me.

>>92252395
Why did Clayface forget that he's really fucking strong?

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>>92252456
Damn it, Bruce, get out of your dirty Batman suit and go see some ballet with Cass and your flamboyant cousin.

>>92264461

Well, of course, Peterson would answer since Puckett is deep into video gaming and probably ignores all messages he gets on Linknd or whatever the hell that job website he joined.

>>92264764
Someone ask! Anonymously, of course. :)

>>92264677

This. If this issue ended like this. I'd be happy. Instead, I just feel this void like we've missed some numerous things off panel.

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>>92265171
There were 4 pages wasted on the Colony fuckwits and 1 on Clayface needing stealth for some reason to sneak Kate past some half-dead ninja. Any of that could have been cut to show them visiting the ballet or show someone telling Cass about Lazarus Pits.

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>>92264365

I always thought the name "Cassandra" was Puckett's sly reference to her abilities. The mythological Cassandra was an oracle who could foresee the future but nobody would listen to her predictions. Classic Cassandra Cain "sees the future" but can't speak.

>>92265544

It's possible, but Shiva and her shadow cast over Cass in Puckett/Scott run and her being named Sandra. Is just curious as well.

>>92252334
Good issue.

I still hope this is all leading up to Cass becoming Batgirl. After Babs gets paralyzed and becomes Oracle.

>>92267324

I hope this is all leading up to the current DC universe being reset & deleted because it's just a worse version of the previous one.

>>92252359
I'm happy Cass still has her ninja look. Thought that was gonna be a one-shot

>>92267324
Don't see that happening with the upcoming Joss Whedon Batgirl movie, which will have Babs as Batgirl. They'll definitely keep Babs as Batgirl for synergy.

I do wish Cass was Batgirl though. Prefer her over Babs. Is there any reason we can't have more than one Batgirl at the same time? It's not like having two heroes with the same name isn't uncommon these days.

>>92268127
>Don't see that happening with the upcoming Joss Whedon Batgirl movie, which will have Babs as Batgirl

Oh jesus christ, I forgot about that piece of shit. I first heard of it in an Onion article and thought it was a joke, and now it's real. For fuck's sake.

Like the best god damn case scenario is that the other batgirls appear in a cameo role or something, but fuck, I'm pre-emptively mad as hell about that

>>92268127

The funny thing is about Whedon. He'd probably love all three Batgirls. Think about everything he's done. Now think about each Batgirl. Dude's spent his whole life writing each of them.

Buffy with Stephanie, River with Cassandra, and Wesley with Barbara.

>>92252431
Based Ra's

>>92252786
95% of Rebirth is derivative and tired.

>>92269774
You have shit taste. I bet you liked hairless, edgy nu52 Lobo.

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>>92264391
>>92264461
No, it needed Cass getting a new costume. One with bat ears and a cape. Tim got a new retro costume and Spoiler so it's bullshit that Cass didn't get anything. I want to hold hope that she's have a new costume (and maybe a new codename too) next time we see here but I feel it's not likely. Bruce adopting Cass also would have been nice.

>>92252674
>O'Neil Question
>Batman
I wish I could hate you to death.

>>92270017
I hate all Lobos

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>>92260643
>>92270104

>>92270231

Superboy Prime?!

>>92270569
Fuck you Superbitch.

>>92270953
I've never been to any DC forums, so no.