So Will This Be Cancelled or Will The Push Continue?

Just for kicks and giggles Unstoppable Wasp – #4 – 9,780

Another relaunch, to correspond with whatever they make her history like in the MCU.
Carol's probably getting another mindwipe

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Wonder Woman #4 - 85,329
Harley Quinn #4 - 73,678
(...)
Mighty Captain Marvel #4 - 17,893

>>92231041
Aww, I'm actually enjoying that.

>>92230990
So much of the stuff I love was made by Marvel. What happened to you?

>>92230990
I hope it gets cancelled

I hate her lesbian butch look and hair

>>92231041
Unlike Dike Danvers, The Unstoppable wasp doesn't get the same benefits of Marvel's perceived leading lady so unless it's selling like hotcakes on digital.....this title is probably gone after issue 6

>>92231242
>Marvel
>selling well digitally
This is a meme that needs to die.

Or maybe they can get a real writer on her and stop forcing KSD's shit characterization down our throats.

For fucks sake it's so simple to do. Why cant these faggots accept they are wrong?

>>92231397
She never sold well to begin with. And never will, for that matter.

Alan Moore couldn't make her successful with he wanted.

>>92230990
She just needs to fuck Spider-Woman already.

>>92231041
>>92231092
It's OK the comic had a scholastic deal so it will stay afloat, it's not like Nova which got killed the moment it reached below 20,000

>>92231482
>She never sold well to begin with. And never will, for that matter.
She did. During fapbait era.

>>92231332
But I never claimed that it's selling well. I'm just saying that it would need to sell very well on digital if the title is to have any chance at all.

>>92231691
fuck you, it should be the opposite

>>92231691
That and the movie will be coming out next year I think? So they'll definitely want it floating until then...floating like a turd in the Mississippi River that one summer I made the horrendous decision to dip my toe in due to the unreasonably hot day.

It would be hilarious if the book was retitled as Alpha Flight and sell around stable 40k every month

>>92231977
No one is saying that it shouldn't be, it just is. That's life buddy. Sometimes you get shafted.

>>92231691
Nova is a straight male it's only natural for Marvel to kill his comic

>>92232065
B,but isn't he also Mexican or something? Shouldn't that count for something....or is being Black the only definition of diversity?

>>92232054
I refuse to accept this fate.
I'm going to find scholastic and torn apart their copies

>>92232093
not diverse enough

>>92230990
It'll get rebooted/renumbered again.
Whenever Carol flops they just reset the clock.

>>92232105
It won't help friend....they're already paid for or counted for or whatever the fuck deal Marvel made with Scholastic. It's like you going into a comic store and ripping up each issue of Squire Girl. Marvel counts what they ship to the store and unlike DC, Marvel doesn't do refunds.....so....there you go.

>>92232093
>.or is being Black the only definition of diversity?

If anything being a white woman is a stronger definition of diversity. Do you really think if Luke Cage pulled Carol numbers he'd still be getting this amount of push from the company? Do you think T'Challa would be getting infinite chances like this?

>>92231092
Awww I feel bad for your family.

>>92232200
>Do you really think if Luke Cage pulled Carol numbers he'd still be getting this amount of push from the company?
Bad example. Luke Cage sells even less.

>>92232200
Hmmm....after that retail summit they might? T'challa at least. While we're on T'challa, World of Wakanda #6 is at 14k issues. Did we really need a Black Panther's world comic? Hey guys! Look at Africa, it's a technological Marvel!

>>92231053
I guarantee the Captain Marvel Generations book will be the retcon to the origin that gets rid of Mar-Vel.

>>92232277
And what happened with Cage?
Did it get a relaunch and an insistence that it actually sold great and that people love him?

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>>92232189
Then there is one only solution

>>92232342
I was thinking along the same line but not as extreme. I think it's basically a book to tell us that Danvers is basically the greatest hero there ever will be and that Mar-vel could never be the same hero Danvers is. He's soooo glad she got his legacy becuase as a Woman, she was able to feel things and do things no man could ever hope to accomplish.

>>92232313
And "The Crew" had a terrible start. Worse than "America".

>>92232390
Edgy!

>>92232390
That still won't help. That's equating to ripping up issues that have already been sold. Sure you get the satisfaction of sleeping in the sweet embrace of Oblivion, but the title will go on. Captain Marvel will continue to fly with her manly jawline and brand new crew cut while Nova languishes in the dark bottomless basement that is the Marvel list of could care less.

>>92231691
It's not fair. Nova is a good book.

Quick, somebody photoshop Coral in a thong with a stripper bar. I'll send that to Marvel every month to let them know, we still care about sleazy and drunk Coral. We still won't buy her book. but we'll care.

>>92232313
that's more about getting the writer Coats over as the next big thing.

In a perfect Marvel ran by people with a brain we'd have one Black Panther comic not three. the Defenders/ Heroes for Hire would have just the one team book and Daredevil (maybe Jessica Jones as a Bendis Containment book) not a book for every member, Same with GOTG, Inhumans and The Avengers.

Over-saturation is major problem the entire line has when only the X-Men and Spider-Man have the only fanbase willing to buy multiple books.

this shit is only going to get worst with double shipping and Legacy adding more redundant titles.

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>>92231691
My head canon is Nova was cancelled for more Secret Empire tie-ins, so I can direct my anger at things that are more deserving.

>>92230990
>>92231057
There's no way Marvel won't overship the shit out of the 5th issue.

Otherwise, their precious YAAS QUEEN SLAY MOST POPULAR HERO OF THE MARVEL UNIVERSE will be selling 15k by issue 5th. This is beyond pathetic.

>>92232716
Which is both true and sad. I only buy X-men books from Marvel and while it's true that I'd be willing to buy multiple X books.....none of the Erection titles are good enough for me to want to go to the comic store and purchase.

>>92232726
They should have done a Jack Ass Rich Rider pranking rookie Nova style of book. That would probably have sold.

>>92230990
>imagine walking up to her and slapping her angry but resigned face with your semi-erect penis

>>92232788
X-Men is currently the best it's ever been since AVX five years ago

they're still crawling through a tube of shit, but at least now you can see the light at end of the tunnel.

>>92232901
Nova should not be about heroes saving the universe. It should be about human space cops doing asshole like things with the denizens of alien planets.

>>92230990
Marvel has 30 titles under water

https://www.bleedingcool.com/2017/05/09/no-30-marvel-titles-will-not-cancelled-based-aprils-sales-numbers/

>>92232951
I hope you're right. After this Secret Empire shit is over with, hopefully they can get some real long term narrative going without having to stop and write some editorial mandated filler stories just to tie in with everything else.

>>92232313
I don't know who pointed it out, but someone said how whenever Marvel has a good idea, they decide to try to make way more books around the idea. This only makes it worse. Black Panther seems popular? Time to make World of Wakanda and him in the Crew.

>>92233058
Na, because it's not about the what they are doing wrong. It's about the lack of any competent editors in the X-office. Even average writers can do good work as long as their editors are doing their job and making sure their stories are consistent with what just happened in the last story arc and what's happening with other titles. I mean. Charles Soule was not that shitty of a writer when he was with DC, and he turned to complete shit since arriving at Marvel. He can't sell any title to save himself.

>>92233093
It was Higgins.

>>92233283
This. When writers produce decent to good work at every publisher but Marvel then that points to there being big problems with their editorial.

>>92233093
they do it with more than books. marvels m.o. for as long as i've been alive is get something hot then run it into the ground. in the 90's they did it with over-merchandising, now they've done it with relaunches. Movies are next.

>>92232478
>The Crew
From context I imagine that's a black team book. What, was "The Posse" too on the nose?

>>92232478
Well they didn't even seem to promote this book. I didn't even know it existed, although to be fair, I don't go out of my way to see which new books are coming out.

>>92231691
it doesn't have a scholastic deal though

>>92232347
black writers are boring

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>>92234114
Swag Priest laughs at you.

>>92234275
there's an exception to every rule

> All New Wolverine 19 57,526
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> Wonder Woman 20 $2.99 DC 45,266
>Harley Quinn 17 $2.99 DC 43,263
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>Mighty Captain Marvel #4 - 17,893

Must really bug Marvel Studios that the Marvel IT girl is owned by Fox.

>>92234436
Marvel Studios could not care less about comic sales.

>>92234541

Yeah, but wouldn't they love to turn Laura Kinney into a billion dollar franchise.

>>92234306
This

>>92233036
Yeah that's the thing, when the X-Men barely sell 30k it makes selling less than 20k relative.

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>>92231524
This

>>92234436
Marvel studios has nothing to do with it's comic division. They realize that comic sales has no impact on their films and vice versa. Disney could shutter the whole comic division if they don't make money. The only reason why they don't do it is they don't want the fan boy backlash.

>>92234597
No they wouldn't. Marvel film studio is pretty selective about who they pick out for their films. Why Guardians of the Galaxy and not Inhumans? Why Dr. Strange and not someone else? They have a formula and they won't don't give a shit if a character is selling a lot or not selling at all in comics.

>>92231524
>She just needs to fuck Spider-Woman already.

I think you mean "engage in mutual masturbation with Spider-Woman."

>>92236594
I'm pretty sure Carol has a dick, she already has the features of a full blown tranny.

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>>92236713

>>92232716
> Black Panther sells well.
> Let's make 3 BP comics.

No one thinks to include the spin off strips in the main BP comic as secondary strips in an anthology format.

>>92233283
Why not make Black Panther an anthology title? That way they can do their spin off strips without losing sales.

>>92234275
Is it true he left Marvel because he was sick of their PC shit?

>>92237203
Not exactly.

He wanted to write Captain America for a pretty long time, but as soon as he got the book, Marvel transformed it in "Falcon". He got pissed and left Marvel, and refuses to write a black character book ever since.

>>92237361
I wonder what the talks with DC were like
>Good afternoon, Priest. We were wondering if you're interested in writing a title.
>Are they black?
>No.
>You got yourself a deal.

>>92237361
I think that's because they put Falcon in because "hey, black writer...so gotta have him write black character."

>>92230990

Didnt KSD or the bimbo after her make a fuss saying that Carol is more important than her sales? I'm pretty sure Mickey has made that book mandatory for them to publish ahead of the movie. They really need their superhero princess.

>>92237555
They originally offered him Cyborg then re-approached with Deathstroke and that was pretty much exactly what happened going by interviews

>>92232951
We're literally only 2 issues in with the main books, too early to tell. And so far, it hasn't been great.

>>92238021
And Firestorm. “Finally, I got offered Firestorm.”

This is where the audience, aware of Jason Rusch, and that he’s black, laughs because we see where this is going. Priest continued to explain that he figured he could do something with the guy with BBQ hair. It was a productive discussion, things were going well, until they sent him reference material and Priest went “He’s black? When did he become black?!” They thought he knew, it was awkward.

That was about three years ago.

>>92237203
Read his blog, dude. It's a great source of information.

>>92234275
You see, this cat Priest is a bad mother--

>>92233707
http://digitalpriest.com/comics/crew/

>>92235559
>fan boy backlash.
Heh.

>>92231057
>Wonder Woman #4 - 85,329
>Harley Quinn #4 - 73,678
>(...)
>Mighty Captain Marvel #4 - 17,893

Captain Marvel artwork sucks
The scripts suck

People are not stupid

>>92239406
Shut your mouth!

>>92239536
Tens of fans would protest online.

>>92234065
Well then an editor must really like it then.

>>92232065
>>92232093
Sam is Latino but he wasn't stereotypical enough

Maybe if Dick Rider was Rachel Rider a female mentor who was training a Latino Nova then it might have gotten more of a pushs, tumblr loves titles starting white women.

Carol thread?

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Marquez Carol is HAWT!

>>92242835
hm true
proof that even shit!Carol can be hot if drawn by a pro

>>92240434
Sh-she's the Wonder Woman of Marvel, g-guys...

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>>92242614
Carol and Jess thread.

>>92230990
>Will turning her into a stripper save the title?

I don't think it'll save her but Marvel does lack tits and ass in their comics nowadays.

>>92230990
Is that something that's actually going to happen?

Honestly, I don't hate the new costume... it's just that it's like they can't draw Carol flatteringly any more.

>>92230990
>Marvel's flagship character becomes a proud feminist sex worker, acting as a chamption for sex workers protecting them from toxic masculinity and helping them reclaim their bodies for womynkind!

>>92231482

>Alan Moore couldn't make her successful with he wanted.

He'd bring back Marcus, that would probably generate some kind of controversy sales.

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>>92243241

>>92244332
#bringbackmarcus

>>92244719
What a hunk! This guy gets all the ladies! I absolutely love his Moose-from-Archie-comics hairdo, it's so macho

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Ahoy maties! Lookout reports Carol thread off the starboard bow! Shall we alter course to come along side? Tales are rife with booty aboard the U.S.S. Carol!

>>92231092
You are so cancerous, Ego used you to kill Star-Lord's mom.

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>>92244719

It's amazing how overshadowed Carol is by her own legacy character these days.

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>>92245416

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>>92234275
Priest looks like a dad, nowadays.

why dont they give us carolxjess?

whats the worst that could happen?

>>92250308
>whats the worst that could happen?
Make you retarded waifufags feel empowered.

>>92250308
It goes against Nu Carol's core and only characteristic of being a military chick.

>>92250506
which is her weakest character trait
carol has never been that much of an interesting char and her current version is BY FAR the least interesting ever

she needs a shake up and making her a space lesbo and proxy member of the spiderfam is what could save her

>>92230990
If anything, Carol will get YET ANOTHER relaunch with YET ANOTHER YA female author who's too much of a rookie in comics to combat Marvel's politics or self-defeating editorial mandates.

>>92242835
Too bad Marquez Carol was as big a fascist as HydraCap is... And not even a competent fascist...

>>92250308
>why dont they give us carolxjess?

Probably has something to do with why you're seeing less gays at Marvel

how2fix Caro:

1. Hire Cornell or Fialkov or Spurrier
2. Let them do anything they want with the char with the end goal of rehabilitating her as a mainstay char in the MU
3. hire a fanservice artist

Get Sana Takeda back on her book and let her go hog wild. let her redesign the costume and draw Carol any way she wants.

Whatever happens, I hope they keep this design. It is legitimately better than the only one.

>>92244746
>Avengers 200.1
>YOU KNOW you wanna know WHAT HAPPENS NEXT.

fund it sounds like book of the year material to me, and Marvel loves controversy it's a win win.

>>92252240
the costume sucks, no two artists draws it the same from issue to issue

>>92252520
The costume is great is great though. I figure it will be more standardized once the new game comes out.

>>92252585
>>92252240

t.numales

>>92250754
This.

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>>92246249

>>92254015

Did Jessica get that horrendous leather jacket just to keep her big titties contained?

>>92254015
>>>/aco/1345139

>>92254035
Why contain it?

S'cool!

>>92233283
Marvel bet hard on Soule and choked

>>92250506
Eh hard repressed conservatives exist, and can still be gay without compromising their conservativism. Basically happened with my uncle.

>>92254572
Nobody read a comic because it goes well with their political ideology anon.

>>92230990
i can only imagine how much marvel collectively spent pushing the character, promoting the book and making the movie just so they can say they have a wonder woman that isn't owned by FOX

and i can only imagine how much more are they gonna spend on ms. america since it's obvious they're grooming the character for movies as a plan B for when carol's movie bombs

and i doubt disney would let them get to a plan C

the new costume is okay but it needs enormous titties and hips to make it work. Avengers Confidential costume is worse but because of anime tits and hips with anime hair it looks so damn good.

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>>92257925
>comic about gurl power super team
>with cheesecake pin up art

even a broken clock is right twice a day

>>92258447
too bad they waited until after the book was already canceled to make the change.

>>92234436
A lot of people at my LCS buy All-New Wolverine because they are Wolverine collectors and think they need to get it to keep their run going. Because it's called Wolverine. It could be a comic with blank pages inside and they'd buy it.

>>92254546
It's a shame really. I thought he was awesome on Swamp thing and I even enjoyed his Red Lantern run even though I wasn't a huge Lantern universe fan. Marvel must have paid him a lot of money to leave DC and come work for them just to turn him into a soulless tool. It's ironic that his last name happens to be Soule

>>92232726
You can't have a headcanon of reality, that's just delusion.

>>92261009
I disagree. You can have head canon because your life is a matter of perspective. However the example anon used was in fact, pure delusion.

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>>92245096
>vampire Carol >>> pirate Carol

>>92250308
Dennis Hopeless quits in protest of his blatant self-insert getting cucked.

They should do it ASAP

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>>92254035
>Did Jessica get that horrendous leather jacket just to keep her big titties contained?

no, it was legitimately in prep for her being pregnant. Apparently you can't wear skintight latex with a big belly

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so what will the next volume of Captain Marvel be called?

Unstoppable? Unbeatable? The Amazing?

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>>92262928
The jacket happened in the first volume.

>>92261427
>weirdestboner.jpg

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Time for some Secret invasion tie in

>>92269188
SLAYY THE AYY AWAYY

>>92231691
>the moment it reached below 20,000
Issue 2? But it's lasting 7 issues. If it was cancelled at issue 2, then it wouldn't have lasted past 5.

>>92267312

>>92268892
Oh Preacher Anon.
Without you and Texas Anon's efforts I would literally never get back on /co/.

>>92231057
I don't know where you got those numbers but according to ComicsBeat it should be.
Wonder Woman #4 -- 93,862
Harley Quinn #4 -- 81,046
Also
Batgirl #4 -- 40,778
Supergirl #4 -- 31,040
Batgirl & BoP #4 -- 33,138
Superwoman #4 -- 30,070
Raven #4 of 6 -- 17,977
The only two female DC books Captain Marvel could beat on the same issue are two literal Z listers from an imprint.
Shade #4 -- 13,536
Mother Panic #4 -- 14,327

>>92254765
kyle rayner and guy gardner say hello

Preacher, why do you hijack threads like this?

People are having a discussion, you dump, thread dies. Like the Jean Grey thread was pretty lively, then you started posting stuff and the discussion ended and the bread went off the edge before bump limit.

I mean storytimes are cool, but they really kill threads that aren't about them. It's been happening a lot lately.

>>92231524
100%. They have way more chemistry than with anyone else. Also I would actually buy it.

>>92269806
It's almost like most discussion on this board are unending circular horseshit circlejerke or something and he replaces it with reasons to actually come to /co/!

Where is all this "greatest hero ever" praise coming from? What did she do?

>>92269870
So much ass....

>>92269981
Preach is a true /co/ hero.

>>92270026
She basically WAS that in the House of M alternate universe as part of Bendis'a push to bring her back to prominence and after that she started showing up more and working to earn it more.

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>>92270106
>She basically WAS that in the House of M alternate universe as part of Bendis'a push to bring her back to prominence and after that she started showing up more and working to earn it more.
And then KSD.

>>92270106
That's stupid.

What's even dumber is Marvel's strange dedication to making her a star despite the fact nobody seems to care.

>>92270210
>Colbert '08
Has it really been that long?

>>92270194
There was ZERO dedication to anything of the sort before Bendis started taking over everything, so let's not even pretend Marvel in general cares.

Hell, he only really brought her back because he jerked it to her in the 70's.

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>>92270259
Yes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stephen_Colbert_presidential_campaign,_2008

>>92270288, >>92270300
I get the feeling that Simon is the type of guy that this is a bad idea to do this with because he seems like the sort of fellow who's bad at keeping it casual.

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Final issue.

>>92230990
She's getting her own movie. Unless that flops, her comic will never be cancelled.

>>92270868
Boy she sure likes to wiggle her hips around doesn't she?

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>>92270890
>her hips
RIP.

>>92231524
No, fuck off. The last thing marvel needs is more gayness.

>>92235559
Id prefer if Disney just killed the comics. The movies are entertaining and designed to be consumed by as large an audience as possible whereas the comics seem to bo going out of their way to be exclusionary. I'm not their target audience anymore. After nearly three decades of buying from them they kicked me to the curb.

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Final

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The end

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>>92269953
Pull the trigger, Marvel.

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>>92230990
>So Will This Be Cancelled or Will The Push Continue? Bring Back Sexy Carol
>It's only at issue number 4 and already sales have dropped to 17,893. Will turning her into a stripper save the title? I bet it will.

Problem with sales?
Miss me?

>>92230990
Reminder: Marvel must keep selling Carol comics if they wish to keep the Captain Marvel moniker or else DC gets it.

>>92271410
Thanks, Preacher.

>Carol slaughtering an army of Skrulls.

Muh Dick! Carol at her best.

>>92273030
>Weekend at Mar-Vell's.

>>92272514
>Thanks, Preacher.
No Problem.

>>92254015
I need to see some spider-milk

>>92254765
>ms. america since it's obvious they're grooming the character for movies
please let it be exactly like the book

>>92272451
>Reminder: Marvel must keep selling Carol comics if they wish to keep the Captain Marvel moniker or else DC gets it.
Reminder: this is not in any sense true and there have been gaps before. Reminder: kill yourself.

>>92276777
Cool.

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>>92230990
This will keep going and going and going because pic related