Why is smoking not allowed in cartoons anymore...

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...but homosexuals are fine?

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>>92226417
>not posting the animated version

>>92226417
>>92226434
Because people decided that if you're going to it phallic pbjects in your mouth, you might as well go whole hog just admit you like sucking dick.

Also, the Loud House is shit.

>>92226417
Smoking will kill you slowly, and the world doesn't want to admit that being gay will do the same.

>>92226417
Because smoking, generally, isn't good for you

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>>92226469
>Because people decided that if you're going to it phallic pbjects in your mouth, you might as well go whole hog just admit you like sucking dick.
Might as well say that drinking out of bottles is gay too ya fuckin goof

You're seriously wondering why? It's basic common sense, kids should NOT smoke.

Cartoon characters smoking is what made kids snatch their parents' cigs without their knowledge and smoke it with their friends in secret, especially considering how smoking was such a popular activity for adults in the 60's and 70'.

However, gay couples love each other like how heterosexual couples love each other, it's not harmful in any way.

>inb4 /co/mblr

>>92226448
Can you actually light a cigarette using a gun?

>>92226417
Smoking is bad for you.

>>92226448
Semen, however, helps cure depression.

>>92226498
>>92226516
> Implying if you make ADULTS smoke in moderation it influences children to do the same
It's the violent video games bullshit again
It's not cartoons' fault for bad parenting
>>92226529
>Semen, however, helps cure depression.
You would know

>>92226434
And they wonder why people choose to become recluse from society

>>92226516
/co/mblr as fuck

>>92226498
There are a lot of things that aren't good for you.
More than that, I think it's because smoking is something that's more easily preventable, than, say, being overweight.

What I find strange is the amount of energy and resources people devote to dragging tobacco companies through the mud. I don't have a problem with it--I don't smoke, and people should think seriously about starting, because it's bad for you. But the amount of negativity associated with smoking seems disproportionate. I especially can't stand those "Can you tell us why smoking isn't stupid?" psa ads.

>>92226529
Does it? Or is it just the fact that people finally had sex?

How did they find this out; did they lace people's food with semen and see if it improved their mental state?

>>92226524
depends on the gun, but its possible. you'd be using the muzzle flash, though, not the bullet itself. also you'll make yourself death and probably shoot your nose off

>>92226448
Coolest shit ever when I was younger

>>92226417
smoking was not widely considered to be harmful in the time those old cartoons were made.

>>92226434
What irks me with this is that homosexuals are not that common, but they always make it a point to have at least 1 of them in a show. Those characters have no personality besides being a fag, and they are only included because there's a quota to fill. It's so obvious, that it makes Korra look well made.

I think everything should be fair and balanced.

I'm totally okay with cartoons that promote gayness and discourage smoking, but then there should also be a cartoon that encourages smoking and denounces gayness.

>>92226543
It's not adults, it's cartoon characters in a show aimed at children smoking in a flamboyant manner, all it'll do is glorify the idea of smoking for kids and push them to do it.
>>92226567
lured in the faggots, lmao.

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>>92226516
>That spacing
>Not using greentext
>Uppity sense of bullshit
You're everywhere.

>>92226611
What are you, a Marlboro shill?

>>92226516
Children smoking was never a thing. Despite what after school specials tell you, there is basically no way to make smoking seem cool. Everyone with a brain knows what it does to your lungs and throat

>>92226647
nah i've never smoked personally and i am hitlerite in my condemnation of it.
but in a free and fair society i think every voice should be heard.

>>92226577
There are ways you can find out, anon.

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>>92226645
>your spacing triggers me!!!!!!
Here's the greentext quota you sperged for, and of course, I'm omnipresent, there's definitely no one who types in a manner similar to mine.

>>92226698
I'm not masturbating onto my food to find out if it makes me happier. I'm not having someone else do it either.

>>92226543
>It's the violent video games bullshit again
Even in moderation it's bad for you.

>>92226669
>"The government and schools are wrong, this epidemic never existed even though tobacco corporations still changed their policies anyhow."
>"t. me, the most credible guy in the planet"

Why do they place signs in grocery stores and mini-marts where it says that they only sell tobacco to people 16 and above, all while requiring to see your I.D.? Why do they place "SMOKING KILLS" and "CAUSES CANCER" stickers on the packaging? The epidemic exists no matter how far you push your head up your ass, don't deny it.

>>92226669
One of my friends started smoking at 14 (which is not a child anymore...), according to him, he started doing it because it had an extremely calming effect on him.

>>92226448
This shit was the bomb. Fuck 21st century cartoons. Faggots are allowed but not cool ass shit like this.

>>92226448
>that hat tip

Every time.

Besides not knowing how harmful smoking was back then, there's also the fact that these cartoons weren't being made for kids. It wasn't until the 60s when cartoons started being made mostly for television that they became regarded as kiddie stuff and characters weren't smoking anymore.

>>92226569
Well being overweight isn't generally encouraged either outside of the odd fat acceptance people on tumblr.

>>92226669
My older brothers both started smoking in highschool. Neither has been able to quit since. My oldest brother tried but fell off the wagon and has been smoking ever since.

>>92226569
>"Can you tell us why smoking isn't stupid?" psa ads
Smoking's bad for you, but some of those are blatant misinformation.
There was one that actually said that smokers tend to put on extra weight, despite the opposite being true.

>>92226669

I have a friend that started smoking at 11 years old.

>>92226417
No realistic guns or booze in kids cartoons anymore either.

>>92226417

/r/ing the pasta of the guy who confessed to having a childhood fear of tom the cat plucking off all his eyelashes

You guys realize Looney Toons and Tom and Jerry shorts were made for adults right? They played before newsreels at the theater.

When they did start getting repackaged for tv parents complained about the violence and you got shitty refreshes like 70's Tom and Jerry.

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>>92226669
>Children smoking was never a thing.
Yeah it was, although it predates TV really.
>there is basically no way to make smoking seem cool
You've never watched any old movies. A cigarette gives you something worthwile to do with your hands and is good for dramatic pauses in dialogue. Also smoke renders great in movies.

>>92227559
oh man I'd forgotten about that

>>92226744
So is killing people.
The argument is whether the media influence you to do either, not whether those practices are harmful.

>>92227558
Regular Show has Pop's dad smoking a pipe and a couple of gunfights throughout

>>92226448
Why is Tom always a savage?

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>>92227784
He can't help being a babe-magnet

>>92226669

Smoking is cool and you know it.

>>92227903
Getting lung cancer isn't cool, it's just the biggest movie stars of the 70's tendency to smoke convincing you that it is "cool".

>>92227936
Thinking about the future is not cool either.

>>92227936

Well maybe I don't want to live to be 100 anyways.

>>92226691
No, you're thinking of a libertarian society, that's like saying marrying children should be allowed just because people are allowed to marry anyone old enough to be their parent.

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>>92227903
Smoking is only cool if the person doing it is cool himself.
It's like fedoras, can't go around wearing one with gym shoes and t-shirt, but if you go full on gangster you look fantastic

>>92228000
>Well maybe I don't want to live to be 100 anyways.

That's only cause you are still young and you think you are immortal.

Once you hit 30 and you have to fight for your body to keep working right, you'll start giving a lot more thought to health, believe me.

>>92227949
In med school they teach us not to talk to teenagers much about stuff like "lung cancer in 40-60 years". Teens don't have the ability to think that far ahead, it's not even a coolness thing.

Trick is to remind them how it makes your breath horrible, will cut into their immediate pocket money, and most girls don't like kissing a smoker kinda thing. Obviously you do it more subtle than that, but you get the gist. Go with the immediate.

>>92226417
Because children are impressionable little fuckers, and tobacco definitely causes cancer, despite what the VPOTUS thinks.

>>92226434
Sexual preference is caused, last I checked, by hormones in utero, not by conscious choice or media influence.

>>92228402
Wait, Mike Pence is as retarded as Trump about something that has been proven for decades now? Dear Lord...

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>>92226516

>>92227063
fags aren't allowed though, that's the fucking problem

>>92228451
He tried to pull the whole "the majority of smokers don't die from lung cancer!" BS, conveniently ignoring that the majority of lung cancer arises in people who smoke... and that smoking causes a ton of other diseases that shorten your life.

If you add up all the smokers who die from smoking related diseases, it's a clear majority.

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>AIDS is better than lungcancer

>>92228524
Jeez, and lung cancer is one of the biggest causes of death in the US, I seriously hope he's just shilling for the tobacco corporations because this is just embarrassing as hell.

>>92228402
Sexuality is a choice

>>92228546
While both suck, initial stage lung cancer has a five year survival rate of around 50%. Advanced lung cancer (and this is common, as there is no good screening method for lung cancer so normally we don't catch it until late) has a survival rate of 4%.

If you get treated for AIDs, your life expectancy only drops by about 2 years below the US average, but due to the demographics of who gets AIDS, this amounts to basically no change in lifespan for those who receive treatment.

If someone gives you a choice, take AIDS. Well, run like hell first, but if you have to, take AIDS

>>92228600
He's an embarrassment who puts ideology first. He was about to be thrown (by solid margins) from his position as governor in Indiana, he jumped to the VP spot to save his ass.

He's shilling, but he also holds plenty of batshit crazy ideas so he's probably drank enough koolaid to embrace their lies.

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>>92226417
I remember growing up thinking Joe Camel was the coolest toon to exist. Being the life of the party, getting the ladies, dressing nicely, and just being totally chill. His presence never once enticed me to want to smoke cigarettes. But people wanted to think of the children.

>>92226577
A few years ago I saw a British study about this. Women who got cum inside during sex, either from swallowing or in their pussy, were generally happier than those who didn't get exposed to semen due to using condoms.

>>92228402
[cititation needed]

>>92228451
>>92228402
Didn't Pence also say that Mulan proves that women shouldn't fight in the army?

>>92229419
Can do

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/222393383_Born_Gay_The_Psychobiology_of_Human_Sexual_Orientation

>>92228250
There are people on the internet right now who call gangsters and gentlemen who wore fedora in the '30s hipsters

>>92226669
t. no friends

>>92226417
Blame decades of anti-smoking PSA and recently Anti Smoking Ads depicting a smoker with damaged lungs and looking ugly to pressure people not to smoke.

>>92226434
They traded fags for fags

>>92232033
heh

>>92227449
Yeah, it's actually so effective actors and models take up smoking to lose pounds

>>92228313
>Once you hit 30 and you have to fight for your body to keep working right, you'll start giving a lot more thought to health, believe me.

if you're this bad at 30 then there's something seriously wrong with your health. either you're a fat lard or you don't do nearly enough physical activity because i know plenty of 40-50 people who not only don't look their age but are probably healthier than me.

>>92228736
except if you choose you know you have lung cancer, thus you can treat it extremely early and hopefully get rid of it, whereas aids will be with you forever.

>>92227063
now understand why smoking isn't allowed? for faggot like you that think is "cool"

>>92232423
You need to stop smoking to get rid of it tho, so in the end if you are addict then you indeed gonna have it forever

>>92232749
>being addicted to smoking
do i look like an american to you?

>>92227835
He's a smooth one
http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x3appi1_tom-and-jerry-cartoon-kitty-cat-blues-2_fun

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p7KdIhGTtKE

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>>92226417
Rango's the most recent animated film I can think of with smoking in it. No surprise, anti-smoking groups complained.

>>92233353
And there is incest and rape in Game of Thrones but i'm sure the directors aren't endorsing it. People are stupid

>>92226607
>What irks me with this is that homosexuals are not that common
Hick detected.

>>92226569
I think there is a correlation between the decline of smoking and the increased obesity of people.

>degeneracy=perfectly ok to show our children
>all american pastimes like smoking, drinking, or maintaining the spirit of the 2nd amendment=reee fucking ban this *posts links to worthless "studies" that try to correlate a completely healthy hobby like smoking with lung cancer*

And they say that the media ain't infiltrated by anti-american pinko saboteurs.

>>92233923
Shouldn't you be burning witches right now?

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>>92233660
You could've fooled all the triggered feminists after the scene where Sansa gets raped.

>>92226417
How about a Winston cigarette?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TwCP6YmwHk

>>92234086
There is murder too in that show

>>92234086
>brutal murder = fine
>torture = fine
>rape = how the fuck do you dare to show this on tv?!1111!!

Pretty hilarious desu.

>>92226669
There's literally a webm at the start of the thread that makes smoking look cool as shit.

>>92226434
Being gay doesn't cause cancer.

>>92234500
that we know of, yet

>>92234435
>a cartoon cat smoking a fag and blewing couple puffs of smoke made me a smoker

Seems like an attempt to infantilize people in an attempt to blame the society for their own personal failures.

>>92226669
I started when I was twelve. I did it because they did exactly what they were supposed to do relieve stress, not because I thought it was "cool".

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Cigars are cool, not cigarettes.

>>92235688
t. never smoked a cigar

>>92232033
lel

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>>92235688
E-cigarettes are cool, not cigars.

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>>92237059

>>92237059
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9Vjhy6u4Lo

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>>92226607
>What irks me with this is that homosexuals are not that common, but they always make it a point to have at least 1 of them in a show.
>in a cast of 20-30 characters you might find 1, almost as if they're prevalent at a rate of 3-5%
>and sometimes you might find TWO (in a relationship together)

>>92233026
Most of the rest of the world smokes way more than we do though.

>>92226607
>homosexuals are not that common
Are you legally blind? Is this text being spoken aloud to you through the computer?

>>92236165
I've always wanted to but I feel like I'm not cool enough.

>>92237333
That's a good looking jelly doughnut.

>>92226417
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsYjV-EsWNY

First thing that came to mind

>>92226498
Neither is gay sex, just ask freddie mercury

Obviously it's bad for you, fucking everybody knows that now, but it can also look cool when done by fictional characters, and people don't seem to have a problem with fictional characters doing other bad but cool-looking things, so I don't know what about smoking specifically causes this reaction

>>92227559
seconding this.

>>92228451

Pence is the most rabid anti-science guy in Trump's cabinet, but beyond financial reasons, he also has religious ones. He legit believes it's humankind's God-given duty to use up all of the planet's resources and fuck up the climate so that the Rapture could come sooner.

>>92237785

Everything is bad for you if it's not consumed in moderation. Mercury's problem was that he was swapping sex partners like dirty socks.

>>92234500
Only anal cancer

>>92226448
Eyelashes.

>>92226607
If you go to a collage or live in a city then you will probably run into at the very least two-five visibly gay people a day.

>>92234697
Do you know what infantilize means retard? Yes, children are infantile.

>>92226584
>shoot your nose off
Nah, depends on how you shoot, how you hold the cigarette first and how big it is you could shred off different parts of your face. You'd definitely have a loose bullet in the air to worry about, though; specially if it was shot at an angle. If it was a revolver, however, you would indubitably cut your throat open.

>>92233196
ONE MORE TIME

>>92237620
I thought it was a hamburguer.

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>>92241169
>if you go to where the gay people are then you'll see gay people

>>92241169
>collage
Well you have my attention

>>92226669
You're full of shit. I had a friend in Middle School who was doing heroin regularly. She just lies in a bed now waiting to die.

>>92228670
Nah, it's all chemistry. Dudes with lower test are much more likely to be into men which is why so many gay men also coincidentally have lisp

>>92245007
Nah, I actively chose to be a faggot.

>>92245069
A straight person doesn't actively choose to be gay. You may have been attracted to woman at one point, but you don't know what straight means.

>>92245200
I never said I was previously straight.
Besides, who are you to tell me that I didn't actively choose to be a fag?
You don't know that I didn't.
Awful lot of bigotry you're throwing around here.

>>92226669
My ghetto friends tried to slowly place a cigarette in my mouth so I wasn't the only one not smoking their parent's stolen cigs and then stopped hanging out with me when I didn't do it. Kids are after school special as fuck you sheltered retard.

>>92226417

Because originally the cartoons with smoking in them were theatrical releases, which have much lighter restrictions than televisions. They also weren't meant for just kids, they were shorts that played before movies.

>>92245275
I'd call myself a bisexual, but I don't care about you and what you chose. You have to realize that your body is a set of chemical operations that make you act a certain way. Saying it's a choice doesn't make it a choice because most of your actions are predetermined

>>92245538
>biology predicts the future and free choice isn't real
I think you've been watching a few too many sci-fi movies.

>>92245584
That's not what I said.
I think you need to ground yourself in reality.

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>>92226417
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAExoSozc2c

Flintstones had a cig ad which was a bit funny.

Tenuously related to this thread, why can't any cartoons use God in the context of "Oh my God" and stuff, do they just try to make sure religion isn't referenced in case someone gets mad?

I can't think of the last time a cartoon had someone say oh my God, there's Adventure Time but they have to use made up versions of God to get it past.

>>92245893
I know they've said it in Chowder in the episode "Panini for President"

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> Russian cartoon
> In August 2012, it was decided television airing of the cartoons would not cut out scenes of the wolf smoking because of laws prohibiting material "deemed harmful to children".
> An agreement was made, "We will not cut anything, not even one cigarette."

>>92247630
did he just go through 3 stages of smoking aftereffects within 4 seconds

>>92247630
Nu pagadi is absolutely based in every way. Funny af and the rabbit shota is cute

>>92226417

Why waste money on smoking when you can waste money on booze?

>>92226434
Being gay isn't detrimental towards your health and those around you

>>92240239
post the whole thing

>>92226417
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it okay nowadays if attention isn't drawn to it? For example, they can show a character with a cigarette in their mouth, but not have it lit. I feel like I'm wrong on this.

>>92228889
is that kurt cobain?

>>92251592
because booze and smoking compliment one another.

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>>92247630
>>92248791
>this is a russian cartoon
>latest episode came out in 2006
good lord

>>92245893
>why can't any cartoons use God in the context of "Oh my God"
I remember BTAS getting away with that a few times in the Kids WB years... Tim Drake, Harley, and Terry in the first episode of Batman Beyond. I'm pretty sure Regular Show said it a few times too. Of course adult cartoons swear all the fuckin' time, but even if we're sticking to family-appropriate shows, it's practically Bob of Bob's Burgers' catchphrase.