Samurai Jack

>>92171589
this thread lack the most important ingredient: sage

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HOW CAN SOMEONE HAVE GOOD PACING IN A SEASON THAT WILL ONLY HAVE 10 EPISODES?!
IT HAS BEEN 12 YEARS, DON'T LISTEN TO THIS SHITPOSTING FOOL!

the episodes are also hit and miss, i'd say 2,3, 4 and 6 are the better ones while the rest are meh.

hopefully the last 2 are the strongest of the bunch, otherwise this season isn't really worth the wait.

>>92171768
episode 6 was absolute shit.

Episodes 1-3: God-tier
Everything after that: meh

Really hoping the finale makes up for this.

>>92171801
i found the callbacks to the previous episodes was clever and scaramouche shenanigans was funny, it was pretty great for me

>>92171589
Well if someone told you that you could have your final season, but at the catch of it only being 10 episodes, how the fuck do you do that?

Gennedy fuck it up himself by having the first 3-4 episodes be slow, probably because he figured he could try to get Toonami/Adult Swim to give him more episodes, but by Episode 5 that clearly failed, and by then he was half way into the season. So pacing out the window so we can finish this thing.

It sucks but what can we do. Plus who can you really blame? AS/Toonami for not giving him enough episodes, or Gennedy for not trying to make a final season with adequate pacing for 10 final episodes.

>>92171589
Even one or two more episodes would have helped tremendously

>>92171931
i would have the sisters and focused more on how the world changed after fifty years, that was basically ignored, focused more on the old characters and Aku, 10 episodes and we got what? like 5 minutes or so of Aku. I would still add a partner to Jack that may or may not be a romance, but one that wouldn't take as long as Ashi does.

>>92172052
i would removed* have the sisters

>>92171801
This.

Episode 6 was a load of fanpandering garbage and was majorly inconsequential to the plot.

>>92172086
It was to show Ashi Jack's positive impact in the world and to convince him his life and work was meaningful.

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>>92171730
The moment suicide jack died, the show died with him
Good night sweet prince, you were a fucking riot

>>92172086
other anon already said it but yeah how can you think it was inconsequential?

>>92171931
Removing Ashi pretty much solves every pacing issue.

The sword episode could be a full, entire episode of Jack struggling with his inner demons, instead of making tea for five minutes and shooting lasers at his depression, for instance.

>>92172229
That was murder jack though. Suicide jack was greenish and he didn't have the warping proportions.

/co/ is such a fucking echochamber that anyone can pull an opinion out of their ass and all of a sudden everyone will start saying "Wow after episode 3 SJ sucks now".

The only actual bad episode was 6, the others were all pretty consistent with the quality of the season.

The latest episode as well as eps 2-3 were the best though

>>92172382
Suicide jack is just Jacks ghost self in general

>>92172443
8 was shit, mate. Terrible use of an episode right before the finale.

>>92171589
No joke. The scene where Jack defeated his inner self and got his sword back had to be the most rushed shit I've ever seen. I never expected this out of SJ.

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>>92171931
>how the fuck do you do that?
I'm no writer but I'd perefrer something like thid
>Episode 1: Unchanged
>Episode 2: Unchanged
>Episode 3: Jack Kills ALL the sisters including Ashi
>Episode 4: Jack gets eaten by monster, interspersed with Scaraemouche similar to episode 6
>Episode 5: Opens with Scottsman dying scene, Jack goes to city, actually does kill the children, then decides to kill himself, follow Ghost Jack instead of Ghost Samurai, ends with scene of Ghost Scottsman rising from the ashes, swearing to find Jack.
Episode 6: Scottsman and a few of his daughter go through hijinks to find Jack. Ends with Scottsman convincing Jack not to kill himself as well as insulting Ghost Jack.
>Episode 7: Jack goes to find the swords, meeting all the people he helped before, rejuvenating his hope. Ends with him meeting the Ghost Samurai we've seen through the show at the pit where he lost his sword
>Episode 8: showdown with Ghost Samurai, kills him and regains the sword.
>Episode 9: Scaremouch finally reaches Aku, Aku goes to Jack while Jack comes to him. Jack and him fight.
>Episode 10: Aku is beaten but his reign still continues. Do a timeskip sequence of Jack becoming king (Like shown in the Guardian). End it with him finding the Guardian again and cutting to black right as the fight commences.

>>92172497
Not just the Scotsman - Aku has barely gotten any screentime either. And the finale is about Jack finally defeating Aku. Or at least it was supposed to be.

But I agree with you - Ashi was a mistake. Should've been killed off along with the other sisters.

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>>92172443
6 bad when it was the funniest episode by far and had clever callbacks of past characters.

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>>92171589
I WAS LOOKING FORWARD TO THIS

NOW IT JUST HAD TO HAVE THAT FORCED ROMANCE, DIDN'T IT?

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAFASHOWGJ

>>92172629
This sounds better in almost every single way.

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>Show is just about Jack and his self-punishing due to his failure
>Literally every episode is a 10/10, the savior of american animation
>Ashi becomes a main character
>suddenly the shows quality drops off the face of the earth

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>>92172717
Is Jack's 5th season about to become the new Korra?

>>92172629
I'd hire you.

>>92172629
This is, pretty nice, actually

>>92172629
This nigga knows.

>>92172629
This legitimately sounds better.

>>92171730
10 episodes was enough, but they had to introduce a new character who only exists to be a waifu.

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>>92172822
More like the next Gravity Falls
>starts off strong, people praising it as the savior of animation
>there are a couple of red flags but people are willing to ignore them because the show itself is so interesting
>not long after reaching the season's high point, things start to crash and burn as there are pacing problems, by the motions action sequences, and the main character keeps getting shit on by his infallible female counterpart
>episode that focuses on shipping out of nowhere even though the main characters are supposed to be preparing for an impeding battle with a dangerous God-like foe (yesterday was our Roadside Attraction)
>final episodes will be a rushed mess, storylines will be wrapped up in unsatisfying ways, many plot points will end up unresolved all together, Aku will be defeated by a sacrifice-fakeout, roll pretentious credits sequence
>people will turn on its creator as he becomes a smug douche who took a massive shit on his fanbase and abandoned them so he can go cry about Drumpf or whatever is topical

>>92172822
It already is
>disregard for anything of what made the original great
>R O M A N C E
>Isn't this female character just so great?
>IF YOU DON'T LIKE IT YOU ARE SEXIST
>All the past characters are never mentioned or treated horribly (See: Scotsman)
>nonetheless people defend it because the art and animation is as good or better than the original

/co/ just wants their eye candy, it's ridiculous.

>>92172629
That does sound like better, especially since there are only 10 episodes.

>>92171589
>tfw you thought the PACING meme died on /a/ and /m/ years ago
>people on /co/ still think they can cover for "things aren't happening the way i wanted" with "it's objectively bad because pacing"

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>>92172629
>post yw eight episodes in and Jack and The Scotsman haven't even interacted yet

>>92173149
>meme

Stop misusing this word, retard.

>>92173149
If you sincerely don't think the pacing is bad you must be retarded.

Don't even hate Ashi, but the season could've done better without her desu.

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>>92172717
The worst part is that it was obvious from the very first moment someone said "Ashi" establishing her as a character with more or less important role in the story, from that moment there were only 3 possiblities:
>Ashi is first to die, other sister grieving about her dying and calling her name, giving Jack even more PTSD and depression
>Every sister dies besides Ashi, she survives heavily wounded and unable to even stand up due to her wounds, swears revenge and then goes absolutely nuclear, fighting Jack at the end
>Ashi becomes Jack's sidekick, eventually a shitty, forced romance begins
Obviously they had to go with the worst option.
Every scene focusing on Ashi past the 5h episode is cringy as fuck, 8th episode in general was one long cringe.
It's like after they made 3 episodes they though "This is too good, how can we fuck this up? I know, let's add Ashi!"

You could see from the very first episode that it dropped some things that were amazing in the original like pacing, cuts, music etc. but at least at the same time it brought other good things to the table. Then they dropped good new things too, leaving us with only the shitty parts.

Let's not forget that we still have shitton of unresolved plot points and we have literally only 40 minutes left.
Tartakovsky used to be great, I thought he got back to being great after seeing first few episodes but now I can safely say he is nothing but a hack nowadays.

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>>92172629
Screenshotted for posterity, and also so we have ammunition in case anyone asks "Well, how would YOU do it better?" in response to any critiques of Season 5.

>>92172629
>and cutting to black right as the fight commences.
Stopped reading there, ambiguous endings are a meme.

>>92172629
this is shit tho

>>92176651
Anon

Of course you stopped reading there, that was the end of the post

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>>92172684

>>92176708
Kill yourself you fucking shipfag

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>>92171589
That was the shittiest episode I have seen in recent memory.
>Deus ex machina device to finish off the baddie
>Plot points the characters couldn't have possibly known about
>Forced A/F and unnatural romance
>Jokes only the writer thinks are funny
>OOC characters

I mean come the fuck on. What in the ever loving fuck?

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>>92172086
you obviously didnt care for the original run of the show then

>>92172629
Shame Genndy had to fulfill his childhood fantasies.

>>92176842
the cameos were boring, aside from samohrai

>>92176826
no it's honestly shit and full of it anon especially the ending

>>92176840
It hurts a little to look at jack now, what have you done to him Genndy?

>>92176912
>no it's honestly shit and full of it
Up until episode 8, the entire thing is almost exactly the same as what we already have you fruit-loop.

>>92176903
You obviously didnt watch the episodes of those cameos

>>92176990
I did, in fact Archers is in my top 10 episodes list, it's just that they were boring

Like who the fuck watched blind archers or Rave and thought, "Man, I can't wait to see what happens with them!". Instead we don't know shit about the Bounty Hunters or Shinobi, you know, character with actual unresolved plot points.

>>92173077
Being "enough" is entirely dependent on the story you wish to tell.

You could have given closure with 1-2 if you made it a direct continuation (no time gap) and just had Jack stumble into a way to fight Aku one on one. The show could have ended any time Jack fought Aku, just have him not be able to escape that time.

>>92172255
>>92172168
thats inconsequential, because ultimately jack is committing suicide because he thought he killed the blue kids

aishi literally couldve just told him the kids were fine and he wouldnt of killed himself.

the fact that they couldnt even animate demongo correctly is proof that the animation quality is dipping. ep 6 was shit.

>>92177109
The episode wasnt showing chars with unresolved arcs, it was showing some of the chars that Jack helped the most.

>>92177189
No ashi had to remind jack about the people he helped too and she wouldnt have known unless she met them

Jack was already depressed and suicidal about being ineffectual before he thought he killed those kids

>>92177195
But even then they were kinda shitty, what about sea people, the spartans or the hunters?

Hell when you think about it the Scotsman has as much show time as the archers this season, they could've had Ashi meet with him or something, but nope, have fucking Olivia

>>92177255
thats besides the point, ashi didnt need to remind jack of the other guys to stop him from killing himself.

if the blue kids werent enough to convince him she couldve thrown on that "u saved mE!!!!!" melodramatic shit and he wouldve def stopped then

FUCK

>>92177267
Ashi meeting the sea dudes is unlikely since they live deep below the sea and he didnt really help those alien lion dudes. Spartan meeting would have been nice though.

>>92172629
>killing ashi
And that's the moment when your fanfiction goes to shit. I mean for what purpose?
>ep 1 and 2 with Ashi scenes unchanged
>ep 3 hurr let's kill Ashi

Not sucking your dick, sorry.

>>92172629
Congratulation you made the first 3 episodes completely pointeless. If it happened:
>lol why did Genndy wasted 3 episodes on these random girls if they're never mentionned again, wtf shit pacing

The rest is complete shit. The Scotsman is funny but he doesn't really work without Jack to be the reasonable one. It would be boring as fuck to watch him bumbling about with his daughters. Also he would ruin every serious moment because he is a comedic character.
Finally your ending is absolutely retarded. Wow, we waited years to see the ending and it's something even shittier than the comic one and it's not even conclusive. Thank God /co/ isn't making this season.

>>92172629
>End it with him finding the Guardian again and cutting to black right as the fight commences
HAHAHA this is worse than the comics ending.

>>92172649
>Clever callbacks
Sup im domogo k bye

>>92177507
But she didn't have "scenes" the implied she would be a main character. In episode 1 you could call attention to Ashi so she can become the final boss in episode 3. In episode 2 she doesn't have an scene.

>>92177333
Ashis knowledge of Jacks past also deepened which developed their relationship. And the show cutting to all the people he helped and Ashi reminding him of that makes more sense to shake Sam out of his funk because even if Ashi reminded him he saved her hes still reminded of her sisters he killed.

Ep. 6 was very strong, its cuz you guys have a hard on for dark broody violence you cant appreciate an episode that doesnt comprise mostly of that but has multi.layered story telling and characterization and balances humor, pathos and action better than the other episodes

>>92172449
suicide jack was his interpretation of previous samurai and the samurai code

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>>92171589
>>92172629
>>92176840
>>92171589
>>92172629
>>92176840
top kek saltfags

>>92172629
I'd be fine with Ashi living. Kind of shitty to build the sisters up only to do nothing with them later.
Just have her tag along and change her views more slowly, instead of all the subplot shit.

>>92177660
It was clever because he went into a warrior bar and it was funny anyways

>>92173109
>and the main character keeps getting shit on by his infallible female counterpar
Mabel fucks shit up all the damn time and nearly fucking dooms the world because she doesn't want her vacation to end, fuck off with that shit

>>92177519
>The Scotsman is funny but he doesn't really work without Jack to be the reasonable one
He worked fine in the Sirens episode.

>>92177769
>___fags
Off yourself

>>92172629
This doesn't sound good. Why build up the daughters for the first two episodes just to get rid of them in one episode and not have them come up again at all. You'd have to just get rid of them, make episode 1 more centered around Scaramouche finding out that Jack has no sword, and come up with something completely different for episode 2 and 3

Also, Ghost Scotsman just convincing Jack/insulting Seppuku Jack doesn't seem like enough to reverse 50 years of hope-is-lost (although neither does the way it actually went down). So there'd probably have to be a full episode devoted to The Scotsman and his daughters showing jack that he's the world's only hope to defeat Aku.

In any case, you can't just cut Ashi and think it's all good now. The pacing in this is just as bad as how the pacing actually is

>>92177716
>Ep. 6 was very strong, its cuz you guys have a hard on for dark broody violence you cant appreciate an episode that doesnt comprise mostly of that but has multi.layered story telling and characterization and balances humor, pathos and action better than the other episodes

its literally just nostalgiabait

>>92177891
If you think it was mere nostalgiabait youre legit a fucking moron that cant appreciate good narrative, characterization, and all the elements that made last 4 seasons of Jack so endearing and beloved.

Pleb

>>92177685
>>92177685
Scenes focused on
>mother abusing her
>lied about aku her whole life
>brainwashed
Nah there is no way she is going to be a key character in the series! xD

>>92177519

>lol why did Genndy wasted 3 episodes on these random girls if they're never mentionned again, wtf shit pacing

Except they weren't focused entirely on the girls, but Jack's struggle.

>>92178022
>Literally minute long scenes of

"LOL remember this person Jack met? REMEMBER"

That's literally just nostalgia baiting, now doing something with the characters would be different, but instead we get

>Remember this guy? K bye

>>92177888

Agree that the Daughters of Aku build-up shouldn't be cut short.

Replace episode 5's alien-children with Ashi being killed off and/or Jack coming to the realization that he killed off a bunch of young women who literally had no choice in the matter. It would completely refute the mental gymnastics he used to justify their murders in the third episode and further nail down his suicidal tendencies in episode 6.

Also agree that 10 episodes wasn't enough for a proper season conclusion period; it really should been 13-15 episodes instead.

>>92178188
Its like youre playing dumb and disregarding why ashi had to meet those guys. Anyways reread my posts defending episode 6 itt, it already clearly outlines why its not just nostalgiabait

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>>92178022
its the worst kind of nostalgia bait, one which doesnt place the old characters into new scenarios but rather just has them ramble on about how jack saved them or something (information we already know)

it feels like that Christmas episode of Recess. Instead of making an actual episode the writers made the character ramble on about stories from the past inside of a car, then the old episodes that the characters were talking about would play in their entirety.

>>92178235
>killing Ashi again
nah just stop.

>>92178259
aishi didnt *have* to meet any of them. all she had to do was tell jack that the kids were alive.

>>92178343
Wrong. It has to work for both, Jack and Ashi. She needed to see the truth.

>>92178259
She didn't need reinforcement of other people to go help Jack, she was going to do the same thing regardless. It was completely inconsequential and served to real purpose to the plot but to shove familiar images in our faces so the fanboys (such as yourself) can feel fulfilled.

The pacing isn't bad, you guys just think that drawing everything out for as long as possible will automatically make things better.

>>92178442
Not everything of course, but some things like Jack getting his sword back would have been better with a full episode dedicated to that.

>>92178295
>>92178424

Yeah niggas read my other posts itt already rebutting what you said

>>92178577
I don't see what else they could do other than a complete retread of Jack's previous hallucinations.

>>92178621
I wanted the Jack and the three Gods scene to be a little bit longer. It was a bit rushed.

>>92178750
What, you wanted the gods to make a tea party with Jack or something? Maybe they should've asked him how it was going, if the family was doing well?

>>92177109
>Shinobi
Who?
And honestly, I think Genndy just doesn't remember a lot of the series and didn't bother rewatching

>>92178811
HAHA you stupid nigger. I mean a bit longer like when Jack's father met them the first time.

>>92179034
>who?
You haven't seen the original seasons, have you

>>92172629
This is pretty bad. Overhyping the scotsman and jack getting the sword back through killing when that's not what suits the sword.

>>92179151
You're not talking about robo ninja are you? Nigga got split in half, he's dead as fuck.
And sorry if I don't recall every detail of thirteen years ago.

>>92179279
Shit son, I'm fucking retarded and thought you meant something else. My bad

So what was the point of reintroducing Demongo?

>>92179359
Just for laughs

>>92177891
You do realize that they're going to beat Aku by all the people jack helped coming together as an army with Jack at the helm right? Ashi meeting them all served to establish that they're all still around and Jack helping them helped them stand in the world for so long

>>92172229
>all dat Jack character development
>deleted instantly with some "NOW I SEE" bullshit

>>92176840
>Deus ex machina
Why was it a deus ex machina? Just because you like the sound of that term doesn't mean you can call anything a deus ex machina.

Wait, did the show already end? I watched episode 10 on Dailymotion and it was a Jack/Ashi episode. How do you guys know what happens with Aku? Am i missing something?

>>92179587
>thinks you beat rage and bitterness with rage and violence

dumb phoneposter

>>92179251
The sword doesn't care about killing. Jacks dad did it all the time.

Jacks a moral fag, and since he didn't view himself as worthy he couldn't keep it. That can be changed.

>>92180461
don't even care about that shit, anon. you're not thinking deep enough.

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>>92180477
>Jack's a moralfag...that can be changed.

Rate the following episodes:

92: Scat Fetish
93: Grave of the Fireflies
94: Highlander
95: Jack and Ashi's Excellent Adventure
96: That Cameo We've All Been Waiting For
97: Samurai Jack: This Is Your Life
98: Go Tell It on the Mountain
99: Everybody Loves Some Alien Parody

>>92181263
>7/10
>9/10
>6/10
>7/10
>5/10
>5/10
>5/10
>4/10

>>92176600
>ow, the edge

>>92181473
Who are you quoting?

>>92177862
No, YOU _____fag

>>92176600
That sounds incredibly boring. I thought you were trying to make the show better, not worse.

>>92181263
Jack and the Farting Dragon 2 was probably the second worst next to Somebody Once Told Me

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>>92171589
There's 10 fucking episodes.

10.

And you're tasked with closing 4 seasons worth of story with a happy ending in a series where the main character literally lost to the main villain.

Get. real.

>>92182053
shouldnt have tossed in a romance

>>92171730
Without Ashi, the season would have had like 40% of its time back.

plenty of time for pacing.

>>92182053
Okay so you only have 10 episodes to wrap everything up

So why add a new main character that takes up screentime when it's so limited?

>>92178040
you could have a very poignant scene with her when shes dying, flashing back to all the times she felt off or wrong while she was young and training but continuing on for her mother's approval, her own reaction to her sisters death, and the choice to still fight jack when she could have stopped while jacks words are repeated "you chose this path" over.

This ends her arc still realizing she was in the wrong, but also lets her pay for her mistakes and flaws.
For added grief/jack suffering, maybe have jack paying respects to the dead girls and watch as the ladybug land on Ashi's hand and show her smile at jack as she finally "gets it" at the last moment.

>>92182141
>>92182173
I disagree. You need to get your dick wet after losing to Aku for decades.

>>92182275
>after losing to Aku
But Jack always won against Aku, just never captured him. Jack would allow Aku to go free most of the time.

>>92182275
So you'd rather have a shitty rushed romance than actual good storytelling? Pro tip, if they took out all the Ashi shit and replaced it with jack shit it would actually be good and on pace, 10 well made episodes is plenty to wrap it up

>>92182148
and nothing interesting to put in there. you'd have four episodes worth of plot stretched over ten episodes of jack walking

>>92182173
to act as a catalyst for change and to instigate situations the MC would not, and to cause the MC to re-examine their beliefs now that they have someone questioning everything and demanding answers.

have you never written a story before? hell, have you never seen a buddy cop movie?

>giving Jack a girlfriend

I'm trying to think of a more hack thing they could have possibly done and I'm honestly coming up empty.

Who watches Samurai Jack for this? Who wanted this?

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>>92182350
The storytelling hasn't changed in the slightest.

Jack was a wreck and he was fucking losing. He has spent the better half of his journey alone and 100% accountable for his failures, and it fucking destroyed him.

Now he has someone to help him again, but since that someone just happens to be female (and fuckable) it's suddenly a fucking crime.

I know for a fact you faggots would literally be happier if he kissed the Scotsman instead.

>>92182679
>Who wanted this?
waifufags and shippers

>>92172229
Yeah suicide jack was my boi, now I gotta settle for fucking Aku and his shit new voice. Jack has something to lose so I hope Aku can exploit that.

>>92172629
Sounds good

>>92182685
I don't mind Ashi at all. I get why she's there and her function in Jack's character arc.

But making them a couple is fucking bullshit and you know it.

>>92182744
Who else expecting a Femto Eclipse 2.0 kinda situation next episode?

I think the show will end with new Aku just giving up, he's lost his will to live and be a tyrant. I just hope he kills Ashi before giving up.

YOOOO THE NAME'S GENNDY
I GOT SCRIPTS THAT ARE SPENDY
I'MMA WRITE BULLSHIT, AT LEAST IT AINT CONDESCENDY
STICKING TO THE CLICHES, AVOIDING MESSY DELAYS

>>92182685
Ofc I would be happier, ashi should've been a daughter not a gf. Scotty boy here will just show up in 2 episodes which is pretty sad considering he's Jack's best friend from the future .

>>92182903
>Aku just fucks off into space after he finds out Jack's got his sword back and he's gonna uave to endure another 50 years of this bullshit

Imagine the salt

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>>92182173
Because Jack's not going back. What they're saving up for is the realization that Jack's place is in the future, with his friends and burgeoning family. The final step to overcoming grief, and that grief is the acceptance that his family and old world are gone, and it's time to make the best out of this new world he lives in that's full of people who love him

Remember guys, the obsession with going back in time is what destroyed Jack. He could have just stormed Aku's palace and killed him in the future at any time rather than obsess over hopping through a magic gate.

>>92182855
>But making them a couple is fucking bullshit and you know it.

Why? She's pretty much the only woman alive who really gets him. Remember how hard he fell for FemAku?

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>>92171730
kyousougiga says hi

>>92182997
They can still do that without throwing in a forced romance that took away the focus of Jack's development, or other prominent characters from the old season, like Aku and the Scotsman.

Post yfw Ashi turns into Aku

>>92182798
>shit voice
Cut the guy some slack, comparing him to Mako himself if a rough goalpost to reach

>>92182448
Comments like these confuse me. From what you're saying, it sounds like you only like the show because Jack hooked up with Ashi.

>>92183151
Trying to force a shitload of Aku scenes would have just made us all hate him and constantly compare the new voice to the old one's. The best way to minimize the effects of the change is to minimize how much screentime he gets. Besides, how much more Aku do you need? He's depressed and listless because he knows that he can't kill his nemesis.

As for the scottsman, you can't complain about him not showing up more until the season is over. Over the previous 4 years he was used extremely sparingly. He's not the sort of character you can have show up every single episode without ruining the tone.

>>92182448
>implying the first 3 fucking episodes without ashit weren't interesting
Please, please kill yourself

>>92182685
>since that someone just happens to be female
cry me a river, cunt

>>92183690
>using a part of the female body as an insult
yep, figured as much

>>92183936
Holy fuck, how far has /co/ fallen that I can't even tell if this faggot is being a retard on purpose or not?

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I personally don't give a shit about the romance between Jack and Ashi, but Genndy blew his dusty, old load too quickly on the latest episode. The interaction between the two seemed very forced and extremely over the top in certain situations. Would have been alright if it was at the end, but it makes no sense to have it now.

>>92172629
>Jack goes to city, actually does kill the children, then decides to kill himself
Change that to the following:
>Priestess decides to finish off Jack personally
>reveals that Jack is the actual father of her daughters, having seduced him and acquired his seed during the 50-year timeskip between seasons
>Jack kills her, but the realization that he killed his own offspring is what tips him over to sudoku
I think it'd give more weight to his breakdown

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>>92179359
So he can hold off the Scotsman during the INTENSE FINAL FIGHT

>>92171589
>Waste an entire episode on romance shit

I'll never understand shipping. Meh episode, not bad but not great.

I don't mind Ashi, my main criticism is that latest episodes had little action, one thing Genndy is simply the best at.

Samurai Jack never really had complex plots. It did have good storytelling, like Jack Remembers his Past he was just reminiscing about meeting a girl and getting bullied, but it worked because they were making that episode as just that one episode that needed to tell what it wanted to tell in span of 20 minutes.

So, after practically mastering art of storytelling via episodic plots, here we have season 5 that tries to tell one overarching story, and honestly, it's just sloppy and people have hard time accepting something so drastically different. And no wonder people tell it's rushed, these people are good at telling what they want to tell in 20 minutes.

>>92179359
A joke. That's it.
Please. PLEASE. Don't fucking try and make this about him.

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>>92172629
I'd like Ashi to survive and occasionally get in Jack's way, but have her slowly realize that she's fighting the wrong battle and have her team up with Jack. Maybe short romance, because honestly, other than the pacing, I like it. It'd tear me up if Ashi sacrificed herself for Jack's purpose.

>>92177109
>Shinobi

Shinobi died, you dumbass.

>>92177862
>complaining about harmless 4chan culture while propagating actual cancer
This is why we should ban all vacationing redditors.

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It's not just us. Here's another forum talking about how bad the show is getting.
http://www.toonzone.net/forums/threads/samurai-jack-it-starting-to-suck.3118331/
OH WAIT

>>92184660
>reddit
Keep making basless assumptions, bucko

>>92172596
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7X5DE0Od448&t=1s

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When does the daughter fucking begin

>>92172629
I'd have less scottman saving Jack and more Jack saving himself, but i don't really know how to do struggle. I think there's too much arc on Ghost jack. Remove monster episode and make room for more sword quest.

>>92182214
PURE KINO

Too bad it didn't happen.

I hope at least this shit season spawns many fanfics that will have better endings.

>>92173077
>>92182148
This.
While there's nothing inherently wrong with her and she has a decent personality and development, throwing in a secondary character into the mix was an all around terrible decision.

It's pretty tragic honestly, I like Ashi but her whole existence just brings the show down for the simple fact that the spotlight was too small to focus on two people.

>>92184690
>2002

Damn, I thought it was mid 2000s

>>92184973
>cutting off the forging
You almost had a point there.

>>92184973
When are we getting Emperor's spinoff movie?

>>92185374
Well, yeah, the sword wasn't destroyed, it 'left'.
Or more probably got taken back. Literally the whole point was for him to be worthy of the sword again, why would they forge a new one?

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>>92172629
this would have been the most predictable shit ever, you'd all bitch to no end about it

>>92185559
It would have brought satisfaction. Look around you, the only people that liked this shit are autists that wanted the other site to get mad. No one seriously thinks Ashi did any good to the season.

>>92172629
This is pretty fucking tight actually but one change: It makes the assassins and Ashi's charcter pointless.

Make Ashi survive but make her mourn her sister's death and then throughout the season go chase after the Samurai for revenge before making her the mini-boss in episode 9.

>>92184690
Honestly it was the random traveling and meeting people that I liked about Jack.

>>92185497
I'm not talking about the plot here, the video was edited so both scenes could be synchronized, the Gods even talked to the Emperor afterwards and that part was cut too. All of this makes the former scene go slower while the current scene was rushed, they could've found a way to handle it better even without the forging.

>>92185673
Ashi's character is already pointless.

Also, the first episodes, i thought the birthing scene, the ruthless training and everything else showed that Aku had become even more ruthless and evil than before. To figure the cult was an independent thing and that Aku became a lazy fatass was a big disappointment for me.

>>92176840

That wasn't a desu ex machina device. It's not like all of a sudden at the end of the episode it appeared out of nowhere and saved everyone. It was introduced before the ending as the part of the prison security system needed to disable the creature attacking them and then they spent the rest of the episode trying to get it to work. Also even if they did get a deus ex machina resolution it wouldn't really matter because the whole situation was just a plot device for building romantic tension. If a random solution came out of nowhere and destroyed Aku you'd have a valid complaint maybe, but this threat was clearly just a single episode contained tension builder, not anything important to the plot in itself.

>Plot points the characters couldn't have possibly known about

???

>Forced A/F and unnatural romance

It wasn't forced at all. It built up throughout the whole episode before they finally defeated a horrifying leech alien threat at the last minute providing enough of a climax for their kiss to not only come across as unforced but to further seem expected and necessary by that point.

>Jokes only the writer thinks are funny

Your own pleb self doesn't constitute the set of all people who aren't the writer. You didn't think the joke was funny. Don't extrapolate from that to everyone else feeling the same way, I can guarantee you that you aren't the voice of your generation.

>OOC characters

You probably didn't even watch the original seasons. Nothing was out of character, Jack's always been an awkward sperg when dealing with social situations.

>I mean come the fuck on. What in the ever loving fuck?

Your complaints are shit. The show would be much worse if it were produced the way you wanted it to be. You come the fuck on.

>>92171589
Pacing is such a meme.

>>92185740
>Ashi's character is already pointless.
Not pointless, just stupid and badly executed. She served to be an anti-hero who would help bring Jack hope to go back and find his sword and later a love interest.

Problem is that this is a ten episode season so they had to awkwardly compress all that in a short amount of time as is, and to make things worse, decided to go for the love interest angle when the show only had two episodes left.

Ashi isn't a "bad" character. She's a horribly misplaced one. No matter who was being written, adding in a side-kick character to share the spotlight this far into the show was just a awful idea.

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It also lacks production value in the later episodes. Feels like they spent it all on 1-3. Can't even keep backgrounds consistent.

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>>92185673
>mourn her sister's death
As much as I would have absolutely loved to see Ashi have a mental breakdown regarding the death of all her siblings, it would be pretty unlikely regarding her upringing.

>>92185916
They've actually been together for several months.

>>92185916
You know what i think? Ashi is the one who made AKU's character pointless.

Aku is a non-threat these times, everything is about Ashi. Aku wasn't even the one responsible for her birth and brainwashing, the mom did it out of her own will.

Genndy killed Aku as a character, Genndy killed Jack as a character, Genndy killed the scottsman as a character, he killed the whole thing, just to show the world what he likes to masturbate to.

It wouldn't surprise me if he has a feet fetish, considering Ashi's name means Feet in japanese.

>>92185941
I took it to connect with his delusions at the time.

>>92186013
Yeah dude, I'm sure Jack's been naked and Ashi's been wearing leaves for longer than a month, tops.

>>92185941
Come the fuck on now, don't you know how flashbacks work? It was green to symbolize Jack's suicidal thoughts which were connected to the horseman. Besides the Jack on the right looks better.

>>92184690

Holy shit, nice find. This was back when the second season was still airing on CN. Really interesting to see the opinions of people regarding the show back then.

>>92171730
10 episodes were more than enough

>>92184690
This is the problem with revivals. People were kids when they saw the show originally, so their perception of Jack is based on what they saw the show as when they were young, instead of what it actually was.

>>92186131
And 8 episodes were enough to kill it.

>>92186051
Aku influenced all these bad things into happening. He's an evil dickhead who doubles as a fun character. He's been depressed because he can't get Jack to give up. Little does he know that Jack almost did give up. The one who snapped him out of it and got him back on his feet is none other than the character you're bitching about. No one that he saved bothered to thing of doing this.

>>92172629
holy fuck this sounds a hundred times better

>>92185993
>it would be pretty unlikely regarding her upringing.
That's the beauty of her character, from the very beginning she was developed to be the "black sheep". The most emotional driven one of her more logical "one pure goal in mind" sister's.

Having her be emotional over her sister's demise would make sense to her character as well as can be an interesting development to her downfall. Since she's the most emotional, the show constantly has her going into fits of rage. Maybe have her anger corrupt her and be this horrible rage monster chasing after Jack? Maybe show her going into despicable lengths to find the Samurai like threaten innocent villagers Jack has help before to find him?

You can do a lot with the character, just push her to the B-plot, not a central story focus.

>>92184690
>>92186083
To be fair, season 2 was the weakest of the four.

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>>92186195
>he doesn't think Jack is Naked is the tightest fucking episode in the entire series
shame on you

>>92172629
>End it with him finding the Guardian again and cutting to black right as the fight commences.
I want to see a happy ending though.
Skip to Jack going Back the the Past™ and killing Aku once and for all. We see the fruits of his labor after all this time. Jack restores his country, saves the world, receives praise and adoration from his overjoyed parents and countrymen. Jack dons clean, royal robes and becomes the emperor, and is remembered and beloved for centuries as the savior of the world, and his ideals held by humanity. Fade from a shot of the new emperor, with his parents at his side, being cheered by his people in his beautiful land.
Cut to a good future. A future full of happy humans in a lush and beautiful Earth, with their own peaceful cultures. Cultures that parallel with the kinds of People Jack has met in the future.
Might be too sappy and predictable for some, but I want to see this character truly win. He deserves it.

>>92186138
Since i live in Latin America, i hadn't watched any more than Samurai Jack 's first season. I watched the whole thing a few days before the premiere. The previous seasons did a lot of shit a lot fucking better than the crap we've been getting since Ashi stood.

We could have had ancient demons and mythological shapeshifting creatures, we could have had more towns destroyed to show how Jack wasn't all powerful and couldn't save everyone he came before. But he decided to have a ship instead.

>>92186138
Genndy says it past the 7 minute mark.

>>92186081
Uh huh, that's totally it.

>>92186286
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJSvKRuDNrw

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>>92171589
Pretty much this. Pacing is terribad

>>92186173
Jack didn't need anyone to save him. People struggle all the time, and they're constantly told to deal with their own shit because nobody wants to do it for them. Jack had the past, and the very least motivation he could have was vengance, like any classic Samurai movie.

I sincerely thought things would go over the top in this season, but they felt it was too necessary to fuck around with ''adult' 'humor'' since Adult Swim was the one that picked it up.

It should have stood with Cartoon Network and at least we could have been spared the blatant fuckery.

>>92185941

That was intentional you autist.

>>92176840
>Deus ex machina device to finish off the baddie
Can you even defend this statement with anything? Like seriously, can you even explain how Jack's spiritual victory counts as "deus ex machina"?

>>92186354

He's talking about the most recent episode, not the one where he goes on a meditative spirit journey.

>>92186335
I think the creator knows the character more than you do. Whether you like it or not, that's you. Tough fucking luck man. Better luck next show.

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>>92173109
>so he can go cry about Drumpf or whatever is topical
Pretty sure Genndy is not a social media guy

>>92176840
Why the fuck wouldn't a prison have a way to keep their prisoners in check?

>>92186392
Not him but he's still very much wrong on what "Deus Ex Machina" is.

The weapon was more of a McGuffin of sorts.

>>92185941
The fight with the tigers in the newest episode looked very good

Literally the only episode that was rushed was episode 7. Pacing is a meme complaint at this point, it comes from faggots looking for things to be mad at.

>>92172629
>6 Episodes for Scaramouche to reach Aku
>Deals with Aku in 1 episode
>Guardian instead of Aku for the finale

Nope.

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>>92172629
>This thread

>>92173109
>and the main character keeps getting shit on
Except Jack never got shit on as bad as Dipper, in fact, the only person who was harsh on Jack is Jack himself, I can't say the same about Dipper. And yesterday's episode was nowhere near as bad as Roadside Attraction, which was terrible beyond the shipping premise.
>>people will turn on its creator as he becomes a smug douche who took a massive shit on his fanbase and abandoned them so he can go cry about Drumpf or whatever is topical
Unlike Hirsch, Genndy is pure and he doesn't even have a social media presence.

>>92186571
>hyping up the fight with A "I literally cannot damage Samurai Jack" ku
Just look at the leaked description. He's going to pull some shit with Ashi because he's no match for Jack's sword of ultimate plot armor.

>>92186470

I never said I agree with him. I'm just pointing out he the guy who responded to him wasn't talking about the same episode.

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>>92183128
Kyousougiga shit the bed in the last 3 eps ish tho

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But the question remains: will Jack's true name finally be revealed?

>>92172629
Do all this except the last episode. Just have Jack kill Aku and go back to the past or stay and fix the future.

>>92186732
Emperor Hirohito

>>92186592
That's exactly what this is about.

>>92183065
Yeah, he didn't.

>>92186421
You'd think so but often times they don't.

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>if Ikra had become a main character and romantically involved with Jack, /co/ would defend it to this very day
>suddenly this is so much different

Cucks. Every single one of you. You're all cucks. KEKS.

>>92187129
If ifs and buts were candies and nuts we'd all have a merry Christmas. Your combination of a what-if scenario and a strawman is not an argument.

Pacing aside, has the drawing of Jack felt off to anyone else? He stands out and not in a good way.

>>92187181
If ifs and buts were tits and butts, we'd all been happier with this fucking show.

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>>92186421
>appeal to authority
Try again, retard.

>>92187129
It IS diferent, that is the problem. Jack and Ikra, if played straight, would've been a better romance simply because it was done decently unlike the time-consuming crap we're getting with Jack and Ashi. If wanting a decent show makes me a cuck then I rather be that than a tasteless idiot like you.

>>92171589
Now that we know that Ashi is Genndy's dream waify, can we say Samurai Jack a self-insert character for Genndy? I find it quite similar to him (at least the head shape/expression)

>>92172629
generic as shit and not in a good way.

>>92187328
where's that thing where he said jack was inspired by dreams he had of wandering around with his crush or something like that

>>92176840
>>Deus ex machina device to finish off the baddie
You need to go back.

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>>92177769
this is the best version

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>>92176840
>Deus ex machina device to finish off the baddie

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>>92177769
>THE SHIRTS SPELL LEWD
perfection

>>92182679
>Who wanted this?

People who actually wanted Jack to find companionship and a happy ending instead of overplayed grimdark bullshit. Sorry you can't relate to him anymore, /r9k/.

>>92187774
That's the most stupid shit someone can want.

I bet it's because of people like this they gave the nerds on Big Bang Theory girlfriends.

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>>92186457
Superprisons being unable to keep mutants and masterminds inside their cells is pretty common.

>>92187774
Good thing she's going to get killed by Aku.

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>>92187828
Sorry you can't relate to him anymore, /r9k/.

>>92188001
Can't wait to drink your tears when you're wrong again. :)

>>92188058
>:)
Good job making your entire post irrelevant

>>92188058
Can't wait to spam my screenshot of your post two weeks from now.

>>92172629
This was all bad, but the ending especially is horrendous. Never write again.

>>92187129
ikra looked more adult than ashi

>>92171589

It amazes me how /co/ is filled with so many unrecognized geniuses.

>>92173114
Spotted the MRA.

>>92188959
Fuck off retard

>>92187129
I preferred their chemistry, yeah. It starts out as a professional relationship and doesn't involve a weird redemption arc for both characters.

>>92172629
This is infinitely better than what we've been getting.

>>92177769
This is the definitive version. Thank you kind anon.

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>>92177769
>one of the reaction guys has the fish head

>>92187129
Not cucks. Homos.

>REEEEEEEEEEEEEE I WANTED JACK TO FUCK AKU, HAVING HIM FUCK A MALE IN DISGUISE REALLY TURNS ME ON!!!

>>92191117
For the last fucking time, traps aren't gay.

>>92191117
Still more interesting then ashi ;^)

>>92172629
Don't be stupid, there would be no point in devoting so much time building up the daughters of Aku if they weren't going to play any larger part later, if you're going to kill off Ashi is episode 3 there was never any point in having her to begin with.

>>92177769
>episode 8
Unironically 10/10

>>92182868
Jack isn't allowed to be happy for long so the chances of something horrible happening are high.

The only question is how much will he suffer.

where are you guys downloading episodes?

my source recently went dark

>>92182997
This. Jesus Christ I can't believe there are people who think Jack's going back.

>>92172822
It already has.

2 episodes ago I'd say it was in danger of becoming Korra, and 1 episode ago I'd say it was on the verge.

There's no coming back from episode 8. It's WORSE than Korra at this point.

>>92191825
I just stream

>>92180117
It was literally a (plot) device handed to them that refused to function until the plot demanded, that instantly defeated the monster. What could be more deus ex machina than that?

>>92191904
>It's WORSE than Korra
I wouldn't go that far

>pacing
The series is coming to a resolution after this season is over. This is nothing more than a sending off of Jack. If there is ever any kind of legit sequel it will star Ashi.

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>>92191920

>>92186720
Honestly the only episode that felt kinda rushed was 8, 9 and 10 wrapped everything up nicely

>>92191830
i hope he gets a scene talking to ghost mom and dad and they convince him that they are ok with him moving on

>>92182148
What's there to add to Jack's suffering, he clearly has only one problem to overcome. How else was he going to get back on the path, he's been saving people for so long he stopped caring. He almost ignored the city that got devastated in Episode 1 out of boredom, but his father was like "FUCK YOU GO SAVE THEM"

Ashi was necessary, and actually improves the pacing as it gave an arc of hope for both Jack and somebody he cares about.

>s5e01
8/10
>s6e02
9/10
>s5e03
7/10
>s5e04
5/10
>s5e05
5/10
>s5e06
4/10
>s5e07
5/10
>s5e08
3/10

>>92192321
I agree with this. 3 might be kind of generous for e08, though.

>>92173114
Genndy knew what the series was. You completely got fooled. I'm just laughing my ass off at your expectations.

>>92181263
>8/10
>9/10
>9/10
>8/10
>7/10
>10/10
>8/10
>10/10

>>92184299
There was action the whole episode anon. And some exploring.

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>this week's episode

>>92186327
the fuck was the point of the fish face?
was it suppose to be a joke?

>>92191793
Same. Ends in awkward spontaneous sex.

>>92193461
Looks like a vagina from the front. It was Sex Innuendos: The Episode.

>>92172629
Shit I wish this is what happened

>>92172629
I like some of this, but that ending is first-semester-film-school tier garbage. If you were a real writer, you'd write a real ending.

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>>92172629
As a general outline I like it more but it could be refined further

I'd end it on Jack jumping into the guardian's time portal and roll credits over scenes from the future Jack created by slaying Aku

>>92172629
>Episode 3
Jack doesn't kill Ashi. He lets her go, and Jack wanders off. He feels incredibly guilty for failing his quest and killing people on top of it. Crank up his hallucinations from Episode 1 and 2, but leave them more like background radiation. His main priority now is to remember his purpose. Jack continues to wander aimlessly looking for people to help, and wrongs to right.
Meanwhile, Ashi cautiously hunts him.
>Episode 4
Dedicate an episode to a classic episodic Jack adventure featuring brooding, bearded, crazy, swordless Jack. Helping some random people in a random location, and growing a little more sane in the process.

Over the course of the 5 or so episodes of Jack's adventures, Ashi witnesses all the good he does, analyzes his personality, mood, and degrading sanity, as she organically sees for herself how terrible Aku's future is. She doesn't take up as much screen time, but she gets a couple scenes every episode interacting with Aku's twisted world, and observing the Samurai's actions, both of which slowly develop her character.
She grows more hesitant and doubtful of her own quest to kill the Samurai, until she reluctantly joins Jack, the Scotsman, and all those others who are loyal to Jack for the final battle, where she dies a quick death like her sisters.

>>92171660
It's too bumpy

>>92186327
>looks like a vagina
>smells like one too

>>92171730
i've seen shows that are 3-6 episodes in their entirety that do pacing excellently

FLCL
Rin:Daughters of Mnemosyne
Tales of Phantasia

to name a few

>>92177769
Oh shit we're on episode 9 already? Aren't there only 10?

>>92173109
>many plot points will end up unresolved all together

Like what, faggot. Jack doesn't have that many plot points

>>92172629
>End it with him finding the Guardian again and cutting to black right as the fight commences.

I was with you until this. Fucking kill yourself

>>92194284
Yep, it was good while it lasted. I'm already not prepared for the finale.

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why is XCVIII hated again?

>>92194569
It was focused solely on Ashi and Scaramouche, not Samurai Jack. Quick and disappointing way to resolve the ghost Samurai and Jamurai Jack's inner demons.
I think most people liked the Scaramouche parts though.

>>92194284
nigga do you not see the rickroll night? we only had 8 eps

>>92194615
>a episode not on the main character
in the 4 seasons before, did this before; but since it was Ashi, it's automatically bad

>>92192321
E07 was actually pretty great, at least an 8/10

>>92171589
introducing romance in Samurai Jack was a mistake

>>92194673
The fight scene was pretty weak compared to how Jack would have taken down the army. No setting traps, no taking damage, no fatigue, no being briefly overpowered. She just ran right into them like the Falsh, knocked them down a mountian, then killed them effortlessly. Boring, there has to be some struggle. All of the best Jack fights give him a lot of trouble.
There's also the thing where the priestess just shows up out of nowhere and gets killed in 5 minutes. A bit weak.

>>92194664
No, it was bad because it was bad. If it was Ashi and done well it would be good. Again, people like the Scaramouche part.

>>92194734
>people like the Scaramouche part.

Really? All I saw in the days after the episode aired was autists triggered about Scaramouche saying "penis".

Also, Ashi's part wasn't bad, most of the complaints were, again, autism about the rave and autism about Demongo.

>>92194615
Scaramouche wasn't in it.

>>92194776
fucking exactly

>>92194723
The fight scene was meh and pretty shoved in, but the meditation scene was excellent

>>92194776
>Why did Scaramouche say penis? Haha wow epic family guy joke! I tipped my fedora at the screen. Genndy is a tryhard hack
>I cringed so hard during the rave, I had to make 3 threads on /mu/ about neo-deconstructive prog jazz to calm myself down again.
>This one-time joke cameo by a beloved fan character truly exposes Genndy for the hack he is, clearly he doesn't care about precious lore and continuity.

>>92194815
I agree.

>>92194780
I was mistakenly talking about the previous episode.

>>92194776
You're conflating shitposting with all criticism. A very autistic thing to do.

>>92194872
I don't remember there being any legitimate criticism other than (perhaps) the Omen fight being anticlimactic.

Everything else was autism.

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>>92194888
>pic related

>>92184719
>WHERES YOUR PROOF
lmao that comment alone

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>>92172629
This would've been amazing, and not only that, it also fits the 10 episode limit conclusion perfectly.

>>92194852
They could've handled the fights much better if there was no army, and the whole episode just had the fight vs the priestess. Would've also made more sense and could've given more screentime to the meditation sequence. Also the way she got killed by Ashi was pretty lame, would've been much more climactic had Jack retaliated the moment she was about to pounce on him.

>>92194918
She was going for Jack the whole fight. There's nothing lame about it. Ashi threw an arrow as she was going for the kill on Jack.

>>92172629
This is awful.

>>92194888
>no criticism, all autism
Of course it was, because you love it unconditionally. You'll ignore any criticism, screencap shitposts, then repeat autism ad nauseam. Sonic fans do the same things to critics.
Not that I'm saying I'm a critic, I like the season so far :3

>>92194953
You're an idiot.

There are legitimate problems with the season, but I haven't seen anyone give any actual criticism of episode 6 yet. Just autistic nitpicking.

>>92194120
He hasn't done shit in 50 years. In fact, he's been actively avoiding people. What the fuck would make him start now. He just randomly decides to give fuck?

>>92194947
This is a legendary master assassin being penetrated by an arrow that's thrown by a girl. She doesn't deflect it nor dodge it, and the arrow has enough kinetic force to come clean through her. Meanwhile jack already got his sword! It was a perfect opportinuty to use it.

>>92194901
I don't understand what your pic is supposed to imply.

>>92194967
>He feels incredibly guilty for failing his quest and killing people on top of it. Crank up his hallucinations from Episode 1 and 2, but leave them more like background radiation. His main priority now is to remember his purpose.
The very first scene of him in season 5 is him helping random people, anyway. He hasn't totally lost himself, killing people and massive guilt could shock him into giving a fuck again. Helping others instead of letting them die could give him a little more hope.
Better than some random bitch making him go from suicide to wtf im happy now lets find the sword in less than a minute.

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>>92194980
>No you're a stupid head dumb poop
t. redneck

I do feel as though the show could use a few more episodes of breathing room. HOWEVER, I'm still enjoying the season and honestly they're doing p.good given the amount of time they were allotted.

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>>92177769
>look guys I made a shitty cartoonist cock slurpery image that means the episode was good

Episode was shit son. Worst one yet!
>started with a really awkward and unfunny gag where Jack's head becomes a fish (Why didn't the tigers just poison Jack? /frodo)
>Jack and Ashi shoved together in a forgettable brawl with tigers while cheap porno music plays
>they come across 2001 space odessy monolith in the sand
>nonsensical "suck the venom out" scene that ends up being pointless because both of them get bitten all over later with no real ill effects
>chased by a lekgolo ripoff monster that keeps making the same fucking skreeeee sound effect
>austin powers nudity sequence to remind people they're watching an adult swim cartoon and it's not just for kids anymore whoa!
>to defeat the monster Jack has to press a bunch of random buttons randomly on a frisbee until he gets it right
>another baddie defeated by being shocked to death
>ends abruptly with forced kiss out of nowhere
Gennedy just can't get it right!

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I see lots of butthurt, but I haven't been here on Saturdays because /co/ is going full baka.

Is the butthurt mainly generated by the "official love interest" thing? This is Tumblr tier, guys, stop acting like girls.

>>92195025
Can't tell if this is a hipster or a redneck.

>>92183690
Only one crying is you, shitface.

>>92195654
It's mostly the dull writing, action, and pacing of the last few episodes. I don't care one way or the other about romance.

>>92195654
>projecting your butthurtness onto others
>unironically citing a tumblr bogeyman
>stop acting like girls

You need to be 18 and above to post here.

>>92179587
It wasn't defeated instantly. Ashi told Jack. about his positive impact on the world and he came to his senses.

>>92185642
I did. Loads of people outside of this shit board that desperately wants this to be the new Korra did. Your plot outline reads like generic fanfiction and you should stay out of writing.

>>92172642
>Not just the Scotsman - Aku has barely gotten any screentime either.

>people bitch when Aku is on screen because MUH VOICE and MUH mi-laaaaaaaise

>people bitch when he's not on-screen

WHAT DO YOU PEOPLE WANT

>>92177862
Where do you think we are?

>>92184719
you're right, he should have called you on your true origin.

tumblr

>>92171730
>How can a movie have good pacing it's only got two hours!

>>92195914
To complain

>>92171730
He did it with Clone Wars being chained down with 4 and 11 minute episodes. The cast was also 3 times the size with multiple narratives. All came together quite nicely.
Jack is full half hour episodes with 4 seasons behind it. No excuse for how bad it's been getting.

reminder that anybody who is bitching about jack and ashi are subversive shills sent by tumblr to undermine hetero culture


stay woke, my friends

>>92182053
>4
>seasons
>worth
>of
>story
Get fucked you dumb faggot nostalgiafag. What, are we now going to pretend that the original Samurai Jack wasn't 99.99% of the time monster-of-the-week bullshit with practically 0 overarching character arcs or plotlines? Because that's fucking false you dumb motherfucker.

>>92195832
Same. The bigger issue is it feels like Genndy has no clue what he wants to do with the show

>>92195971
>anyone who disagrees with me is branded an enemy

>>92183599
>implying that Punished Jack wasn't merely establishing the status quo, and always destined to be discarded as Jack got his smile back
>implying that having 5 episodes of Jack becoming more and more depressed before just killing himself would have been a satisfying conclusion
>implying that dedicating screentime to Jack re-learning the inherent value in all the lives that he saved, and in the value of being alive, isn't worth it
BUT NOT MUH GRIMDARKNESS, right?

>>92182053
There was two plot points not resolved in those 4 seasons
Jack getting to the past
A future vision of King Jack
Nothing in this season is feeding those plot points. They even did a 50 year time jump which should have made it easier to flesh out those two plot points but all it seems to be is jack is stuck in the future.

>>92187774
>hurrr r9k
All you are telling me is where you shitpost the most anon

>>92186335
>Jack didn't need anyone to save him.
Oh yeah because he was doing SO good on his own fighting his inner demons, right? Those 50 years of running away and being 1 dagger away from sudoku are clearly amazing therapy techniques, right? Fucking retard.