People are burning Captain America's free comic book

good

>>92140449
got evidence??

pics?

Spencer on suicide watch.

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>>92140449
>marvel gave these out for free so they will be pretty fucking mad when i burn it!!

>>92140449

who cares

Found evidence of someone doing it
https://twitter.com/edenburned/status/860947065303642112

Tumblr user stevebootyshorts
Yea yea I know REEEEEEEEEEEE tumblr bit

>>92140579
>tumblr female

of course

>>92140579
>naked in the shower
Hoooooooooot

>>92140579
>she wrote "fuck white supremacy" over the book before burning it

>>92140633
>She ripped the page out
>Wrote the phrase down
>Went to her bath tub
>Burnt the rest of the comic
>And then burned the single page
https://twitter.com/edenburned/status/860946723451146245

>>92140633
What did she expect? That Cap would get beaten right at the start of Secret Empire?

>>92140579
Guess people are still mad at Cap being more worthy of the hammer than a badly written strong female cancer patient.

>>92140579
Fucking tumblr

>>92140579
She's hot
Is there any nude pics of her so I can fap?

But what is "worthiness? anyway? Just "believe in yourself"? Basically, self-esteem?

Because in this case, Jane shouldn't be worthy.

So how did normies come to the conclusion that Hydra = Nazi anyway? Not even the movies back up this claim

>>92140563
Spencer is probably having a bit of an autistic rage fit
>BUT #0 WAS THE BEST SELLER
>AND ALL THE SITES REVIEWED IT SO WELL
>HOW COULD PEOPLE DISLIKE THIS
>DON'T THEY SEE HOW PROGRESSIVE I AM

>>92140828
>But what is "worthiness? anyway?
"what can get us the most clicks on news sites?"

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>>92140449
Burning a free comic book is small potatoes. Omnibuses or bust.

>>92140843
Agents of Shield
http://tale-wind.tumblr.com/post/160326036732/marvel-comics-just-because-someone-is-hydra

>>92140449
What a time to be alive.

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>>92140579
she seems WOKE

>>92140979
Marvel cannot stop fucking up
also
>gay Mormon

>>92140926
It is ironic how he is trying to pander to these progressives but they end up calling him literally hitler

>>92140965
I hope this wasn't intentional

I hope there isn't someone autistic enough to spend what is likely over $30 on a big as omni just to burn it and take a picture to post on the internet for attention

>>92140843
I mean, Hydra was the enemy during WWII in the MCU. Can't go more Nazi than that.

>>92140926
>Former Democrat politician helps kickstart Marvel's new event
>tumblr is outraged by the premise
>/pol/ hates it for Red Skull's speech makes it look like conservatives are strawmen
>Spencer's arrogant and cocky to the point where even Simone didn't want to talk to him on twitter IIRC
what a world

>>92141000
>I wish they cast an asian guy to play a white character

this bitch doesnt read comics, she likely got FCBD Secret Empire with the sole intention of burning it so she can feel validated online

>>92141095
And this is Marvel's curent audience in a nutshell

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>>92140579
>burning a comic like a literal nazi because you think it has nazis in it

>>92141095
Finn Jones is a pretty bland actor and they went with possibly the most boring and also whitest plot possible for their magic kung fu series

>>92141050
http://www.factualopinion.com/the_factual_opinion/2008/05/comics-of-the-weakest-finale-or-burning-an-x-men-omnibus-almost-as-difficult-as-reading-one.html

It was very intentional. Don't miss out on my favorite part which is Darwyn Cooke in the comments telling him nice work.

>>92141137
Oh I dont like Finn Jones & I dont like the Iron Fist show but I just hate how people assume Danny is asian in the comics so they think an asian should play him, if anything them saying an asian should do it just cus its kung fu is pretty racist

>>92140579
>Burns free shit

Yeah, that'll show them. Burn the thing they're giving away for free.

>>92141050
>likely over $30
probably well over double that

>>92141095
>>I wish they cast an asian guy to play a white character
isn't it more racist to demand all kung fu characters to be Asian

>>92140449
Well that's pointless and immature

>>92141197
yes, goy, buy our books so you can burn them! That will show us!

>>92140965
some one really hates the X-Men

>>92140449
Oh shit my bro just picked that up
Gunna get super rare and generate the big creds
Gotta tell him ti keep it super mint thanks senpai
This is pretty lit

>>92141226
Whether its free or not, Marvel will never give a shit about burned comics

>>92141280
the executives won't, but the individual writers might

>>92141139
Tucker Stone is such a tryhard edgy moron. Shame Cooke died instead of him.
>b-but he egged him on!!
Yeah, but at least Cooke had talent. Also, this was post-Marvel fallout so he was clearly being butthurt.

Bottom line: fuck Tucker Stone.

>>92140579
https://twitter.com/edenburned/status/860946723451146245
>She burned herself
I HOPE IT FUCKING HURT

>>92140828
Warrior spirit, honorable, willing to kill to achieve goals.

>>92141232
Ike the Kike?

>>92141350
Shut up, Spencer.

>>92141352
Jane Foster dying of cancer wasn't any of that.

90% of super-heroes are these.

>>92140979
Why is her skin gross? I don't watch this show. Is it her mutation?

>>92141139
>Yes, Tucker, if you ever come across a book on, say, how to date rape women, for God sakes, DON'T BURN IT!!! Hey, just cause you don't like it doesn't mean there ain't someone who will!!!

>Settle down, Beavises. He didn't burn a book, he burned a bunch of crappy superhero comics. I, for one, am glad that batch juvenile, misogynistic, idiotic crime against good writing isn't going to warp another innocent kid.

>Get off your fuckin' dogmatic high horses, you whiny, self-important bitches. Not everything is black and white.

>>92141412
she's just had a rough few months

>>92140828
It used to be about heroism, willpower, being a cunning warrior and having the will to sacrifice yourself in order to save the universe

now its just having a terminal desease that can be treated and cured

>>92141050
X-Men Legacy omni ran me like 75$

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>>92141412
She is a normal human but the worst girl, Daisy is the best waifu

>>92141296
If I was the writer, all it would do is make me create a mental list of people to never acknowledge.

Book burning is not how you get your point across because a story isn't going the way you want it to

>>92141350
>tags Spencer so he can see her burn his book
>puts the . in front of his tag so it doesn't actually tag him, and will probably run with it saying he's too much of a coward to respond

>>92141139
Is this guy saying that the Byrne/Claremont era of X-Men is bad?

That's like, the best that X-Men ever was. What's wrong with this guy?

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>>92141421
This is why people make fun of Indiefags, goddammit.

>>92141280
What if you burned them before they were even sold?

>>92141396
Mjolnir made an exception for Jane because it has a hungry skeleton fetish.

>>92141540
Like if a comic store owner burned them? That could be funny

>>92141232
Probably one of the current X-men writers

>>92141568
the comic store owner probably just wouldn't order them in the first place

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I can't believe this.

I understand it's happening, but I just can't believe people are this stupid. Do they think this is permanent and Hydra is going to win in the end? It's a fucking comic book. The bad guy gets some victories to set up their eventual defeat. That's not even comics, that's basic storytelling 101.

This will never stop amazing me.

>>92141568
No, burn them before they're even bought by a comic store.

>>92141613
>He hasnt read Bomb Queen

>>92141627
I'm just imagining some WOKE Marvel intern mass burning the shit comics now before they are shipped off causing a massive outrage

>>92141613
They dont care about the story, they just want attention on the internet

>>92141613
I don't necessarily agree with their specific reasoning in this case, but if more people shit on shitty character gimmicks and event comics like this, the world would be a better place

>>92140579
She pretty clearly burned her own hand in the second video. Serves her right, burning books is a backwards practic that only makes the one doing it seem like an asshole.


>>92140979
Agents of shield is as canon to 616 as the super hero squad show. Also didn't they specifically state in this show that hydra was founded thousands of years before the nazis in order to unleash Hive? I guess that with current events they just couldn't help themselves and had to ruin their own continuity

>>92141685
>I'm just imagining some WOKE Marvel intern mass burning the shit comics now before they are shipped off causing a massive outrage

What if they burnt the roughs before they were even ready to print?

>>92141759
What if they burnt the artist?

>>92140579
25 | witchy bi babe | books & politics | posting poetry on insta @ jensinejones | co-host of @NiceYoungPeople

she seems nice
'books' and 'politics'

>>92141755
>how did normies come to this wrong conclusion?
>because of this related normie show
>WELL THEY'RE WRONG
autism

why

>>92141842
It's more the fact that the normie friendly show stated something and then changed the narrative entirely when they felt like it.

>>92140579
It's weird normally these people wouldn't even think about buying a fucking comic, but because they get triggered they go out of their way to buy one and burn the damn thing

>>92141046

It is also ironic how the "progressives" keep resorting to tactics that are supposed to be the territory of the people they hate.

>>92141898
that's the FCBD issue so they still didn't buy it

>>92141831
>fb.com/jensinejones11
>witchy bi babe who loves politics, books, and captain america.
Ha

>>92141898
It was free, dumbass.

>>92141941
Yeah I know dickhead, the point is she got a book that she does probably doesn't care about just to burn it for some out of context fuck white supremacy shit

>>92141898
Getting not buying

>>92141613
Retards with emotional problems. Attention seekers and cry babies.

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>>92141933
>I went and picked up copies of issue one of Secret Empire for free comic book day just to burn them
Geez
And Superior Foes was cool

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>This triggers the progressives

>>92142039
no, I'm Spartacus!

Book burning is a nazi tatic. So ironic.

>>92142056
a villain picking up what used to be a symbol of pure heroism should trigger everyone

>>92140633
She's burning the phrase 'fuck white supremacy'!? Liberals, their true colours always show

>>92141201
Yes.
We've reached a point of idiocy where people have become the very thing they claim to hate without being aware of it.

>>92142079
Nope. It's great.

There's something still in steve trying to claw back out from cube reality altering.

>>92141503
What kind of Bendis is this?

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>>92142079
Silence, fool.

>>92140965
Jesus, what's the story behind this?

>>92142040
>Marvel are promoting white supremacy with this storyline

I'm always awed at how stupid these people are. A story in which the hip, diverse youth takes on the evil white male is promoting white supremacy?

>>92142105
do you have even a single fact to back that up

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>>92142108
>comparing Dorkin to Bendis
Now I am triggered

>>92142108
Fuck off back to /tv/ and stop trying to pretend you read comic books, you literal mongoloid.

>>92142127
http://www.factualopinion.com/the_factual_opinion/2008/05/comics-of-the-weakest-finale-or-burning-an-x-men-omnibus-almost-as-difficult-as-reading-one.html

>>92142152
The finale of Eltingville fucked me up, not gonna lie.

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>>92140556
>>>92140926
He seems a mixture of sad, amused, and confused.

>>92142206
he really likes proving all the humor came from Lieber doesn't he

>>92142206
>be progressive
>pander to fellow progressives
>they want you to fucking die

How can it be fun living like this?

>>92142243
Ask Whedon

>>92142206
>I'm only a shitty writer ironically

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>LITERAL
>BOOK
>BURNING

Burning free art and ideas will surely help fight those dirty fascists.

Wait, what?

>>92142365
Already tweeted at her saying nazis book burned so she is anti semetic by copying their actions, hoping more people tell her this

>>92140965
Go away black bolt

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>>92142206
>you are intolerant of differing opinions and destroy thing, YOU are the FASCIST
This fucking meme. I swear to God, no one actually knows what fascism means anymore.

>>92140579
Is nobody going to point out she had to bring in a friend on her dumbass shenanigans because she's too stupid to figure out how to hold the page, a phone and a lighter?

>>92142485
ok Mr. Smart Guy, how do you do it with only two hands?

>>92142423

This does all need to be stopped somehow, before it goes from "anyone we declare to be a Nazi deserves to get punched" to "anyone we declare to be a Nazi deserves to get gassed".

And if that sounds too implausible, so did progressives burning books.

>>92142551
Put the phone in her mouth

>>92141197
Better to burn what's free than to buy something then burn it. You buy it and your protest is even more retarded because no matter what you do, they still got your money so you just kinda played yourself

>>92142591
that's retarded

>>92142551
>What are fire spitters

>>92142599
you're retarded

>>92141232
You don't understand. He's gonna make X-Men great again! It's gonna be yuge! YUUUUUUGE! I tell ya,

>>92142630
and as a retard, I recognize my own

and that idea is retarded

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When did everyone become Mr.Glass in an emotional sense?

>>92140579
burning it for the wrong reasons

>>92141123
it's funny and sad at the same time

>>92140751
I was out of the loop. The hammer flew away from Whor/whor die?

>>92142144
I literally can't get this point of view. Like, do they think Hogan's Heroes was pro Nazi? Is Attack on Titan pro Titan?

>>92140579
Post feet

>>92143045
Whor faded away without a current explanation and Steve picked up the hammer.

>>92143072
Cool

>>92143077
it was dumb and retarded

Is nobody going to mention how Squirrel Girl was among the heroes who got beaten by Cap & his team? She wasnt beaten on panel but she must have been defeated, as she'd have no reason not to stop Hydra right there

>>92143211
Nick "The Hack" Spencer

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>>92140579

>>92143268
I can't tell if joking or genuine kike victim complex.

>>92141217
>Well that's pointless and immature
Tumblr in a nutshell

>>92143461
Someone in this exact thread said they sent a tweet with these words

>>92143461
>>92143490
I was the guy, dont have a kike victim complex but just wanted the person to freak out over being compared to a nazi

>>92143517
you sir are a villain

good for you.

>>92140579
>wrote "FUCK WHITE SUPREMACISTS"
>is a white girl

do these people lack any form of self awareness?

>>92143616
As white girls, they know they will be spared in the race war to be turned into brown baby breeding sows and they're already mentally programmed to be slaves to the BBC.

>>92143517
Yeah it was pretty evident.

>>92142331
People scream about Whedon for all the wrong reasons unfortunately, try telling the average anti-Whedon Tumblrette that he's shit for reasons NOT relating to the Black Widow non-issue about childbirth that was twisted out of context to fit the narrative

>>92143268
>nazi's
unnecessary/wrong apostrophizing is one of my triggers

>>92140449

People are fucking dumb. And it's hilarious that they want to make a "statement" but they don't want to spend any money on it

>>92143737
spending money on it would be even more retarded, though

>>92143820
>>92143737

They should have just stolen an issue that wasn't free and then burned it. The only people that hurts are the retailers but they don't know that

>>92143683

>The Race War

If that ever did kick of it would be war without end. Even if whites go all the other races hate each other. The black people would be in for a real rude awakening when they realize just how much Arabs, Asians and hispanicas hate them.

>>92143861
well that's just a dick move to people who have no input on the story

>>92143964

Well I know that but do you think they do? Do you think they would care?

>>92140449
Why? what happens in it?

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>>92143920
>The black people would be in for a real rude awakening when they realize just how much Arabs, Asians and hispanicas hate them.
According to blackie, they're all whitey

>>92143992
considering how ridiculously razor-thin a lot of LCS margins are, yes

>>92140449
Fuck now Marvel will just try and get them to buy something for the next burning instead of trying to make good comics.

>>92144039
isn't that just what they've been doing for the past decade or so, only now someone is finally taking them up on it?

I hate how no one recalls the last umpteenth times a face turned into a heel for an event that reset as soon as it ended. All this outrage makes it painfully obvious that they don't read comics.
Remember when Cap died in Civil War?

Why is it always white bitches?

>>92142551
>Phone on tripod or propped up.
>Burn book.

>>92144017
I want to dump these cunts in North Nigeria. Africans HATE American Blacks.

>>92144089
Good question

>>92142469

Nobody cares about real fascism or totalitarianism, anon. If they were we would all be in agreement on destroying North Korea now before they actually can fire a nuke

>>92144068
It's because they've been talking up Trump and the 'alt-right' as "neo-Nazis" and then they see this come along and think it's part of some societal pattern, and lose their minds over it.

>>92140449
i have no idea of the context. but literal book burning on 2017 western culture. and of something intended to have fun and that you're getting for free.
it's just sad

>>92141412
>she just dug herself out of a mass grave

>>92144107

Of course they do. to them They're descendants of loser scum they sold in the first place

>>92141613
It's a tribal display of correctthink and showing that you're outraged over thisthing you're supposed to be outraged about, plus a statement that no ideas that are against the mindset can be allowed to stand EVEN if they're shown to be bad.

Virtue signalling and censorship combined in one package.

>>92142691
GameGate. It all started because of that

>>92142582
Why are you surprised? This was always the end goal.

The complete destruction of any and all thought that is against their way of thinking. It can't even exist to be mocked or opposed in fiction, lest it taint someone.

>>92144107
The feeling is mutual

Fuck somalians

>>92144089
Because they're told they're shit and that they can feel good by showing how better they are than other white girls by doing the right ritualistic motions.

>>92143616
Is "girl" synonymous with "supremacist" now?

>>92144226
GG was the battle of Fort Sumter. The lines were drawing well before it

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>>92141000
>jensine
Assuming that's >her real name I wouldn't be surprised if it happens to be a tranny.

"Jens" is an old nordic male name and adding "ine" at the end of various names to make the female equivalent was common in ye olden days.

>>92140449
>Burning a Marvel comic post 2005
>Bad

>>92144577
this

>>92144557
GG was autistic virgins expressing their hatred of women on an embarrassing scale. Hardly the start of a civil war.

>>92144801
I don't even think tumblr actually believes this, so you're clearly baiting.

>>92142206
To all the idiots that don't get this.

He's pointing out the irony in a SO PROGRESSIVE tumblrina using the same methods the nazis used, I.E Book burning.

Haven't read it, what's this week's assblasting about?

>>92144904
anon did you maybe think for a second that people got it and didn't think it was funny

>>92144950
Hydra Cap picks up Mjolnir

>>92144833
>I don't even think tumblr actually believes this, so you're clearly baiting.
It's what the sane believe.

>>92140449
>People are burning Captain America's free comic book
You wanna know who burned books too, that's right, Hitler
HAIL HYDRA

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^

>>92144801
I meant in terms of pre-war maneuvering from both sides

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>>92140579

you just know when this is finished she and her ilk will boast and brag about how they "forced Marvel to undo it"

>>92140579
>Literal book burning
I don't know if I'm laughing at the irony of this or the fact Spencer is probably smashing his keyboard trying to come up with a witty response

Either way I'm laughing

>>92145698

>The rise of fascism in the real world

Where?

>>92145698
So if I write a story where she eats shit, that means she eats shit in real life?

>>92140579
>Leave thread for a few hours
>Those sudden replies to that tweet
/co/....

>>92146503
Right over there by the FEMA camps.

>>92149579

The Shadow Masters are coming to get you.

>>92149579
Fyre Festival?

>>92144801
I did not think there was anybody left who still thought this.

>>92140579
Is this irony concidering what the Nazis did?

>>92140449
Wouldn't that make it more valuable since there are fewer issues now?

>>92142188
Same
Haven't seen a /co/ property that felt so real since Moral Orel until Eltingville

>>92149789
That's because you are delusional. Or have you really convinced yourself it was about "the integrity of gamer journalism"?

>>92149883
yes, so you should buy as many copies as possible RIGHT NOW

they might be worth something someday, you know

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>>92142206
People will complain aboit the dumbest shit, Spencer trolls, people get butthurt.

>>92142243
He's a Democrat not a liberal
He fucking hates liberals as seen when he depicted the Bombshells as SJW supervillains

>>92150095
Well that tweet clearly went over that fuckers head

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>>92140579
It's just a comic book.

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>999 likes
lol
https://twitter.com/tenderslices/status/860916181921910784

>>92150095
Spencer gonna get booted out of the industry anyway, he isn't a good enough writer to justify having all the baggage he unloads on twitter.

His shit don't even sell that well. As soon as disney sees how much of a garbage fire Marvel Comics have been running they are going to crack the whip.

>>92150485
I'm happy the DCEU is a failure. Now we DChads don't need to deal with this kind of people. Tumblrites is a Marvel problem to deal with.

>>92140449
Does this stop you from having a quiet life?

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>>92145698
>Things happen in the real world as a consequence mirroring what happens in comic books
Where are all the superpowers and waifus dammit.

>>92150640
That's one thing. I wish the movies were good, but we got great comics, good games and hopefully someday we'll get more than just Batman, the animated movies seem to be getting back on track, and a good cartoon with JLA with the return of Young Justice. I'm not sure about the CW shows because I haven't gotten to watch them in a while, but I did hear that they're doing better.

>>92146503
uhh drumpf?????????

>>92150956
they're not

>>92145698
>the stories we tell have consequences

Nobody fucking reads comic books

>>92150956
Movies take like half a year to come out, so if the roles were reversed and the DCEU was good but the Comics suck I think it would be worse.

At least now we have good books year round. Instead of 2 shit products year round.

>>92150485
2hardcore4me

>>92150956
Can't attest to the CW shows, but Gotham is >fun.

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>>92145698
I can't believe we share the world with people as deluded as this.
It's genuinely frightening.

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>Marvel is an enclave of sjw pandering
>meanwhile DC is Rebirthing all its titles back to their original selves and mostly ignoring tumblr

>>92153969
>ignoring tumblr
That's the way to go.

They only "buy comics" on Free Comic Book Day, for fucks sake!

>>92154086
What are the chances that they just burned it without reading a single page?

>>92140449

Bringing the tumblrinas into comic books was a mistake.

>>92151216
lol this
i could begin to sort of get what she's saying if she was talking about movies or videogames
but literally sub 1% of the world's population read capeshit anymore

>>92153969
I want Marvel to make better books, but I just think Spencer and the others are just such massive twats, I want to see the sales fall.

>>92154172
probably a 99% chance

>>92153969
>mostly ignoring tumblr
>one of their most successful books is SJW: The Comic and another stars two minority legacy characters
all DC is really doing is showing that the politics don't matter as long as it's well-written

If you think they will stop at Marvel when calling things sexist then you haven't payed attention. They will go after everything. It's coming DC.

Just like Anita Sarkesian and the whole feminists "gamers are dead" crew went after basically all games. Let's hope DC actually listens to the fans instead of them.

>>92144313
This.

>>92154745
There was a digital issue of Sensational Comics where Wonder Woman used the word "mansplaining" and the writer no longer works for the company.
An issue of Trinity was going to be about the election but Editorial ruled against it.
Editorial also ruled against a BLM issue by Tom King but allowed him to post what he had online separate from the company.

>>92154717
I would be a bit disappointed if Green Arrow wasn't SJW: The Comic if that's the one you're talking about. I'd consider it almost a requirement.

Humphires doing great on GL is shocking though. Rebirth also shows how important an editor can be.

>>92149946

I thoight it was because of those "gamers are dead" articles parroted by EVERY game site.

>>92154717
>write comic books about minority characters that are interesting for reasons beyond being brown

Good

>write comic books with LOOK AT THIS GAY BLACK FAG, IT'S THIS PROGRESSIVE? all over the place in substitution of actual story

Bad

>>92146503
Antifa

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>>92154923
That WW issue was in 2012 IIRC.

DC will get critiqued for being too masculine or sexualizing females. Remember the fuss not that long ago about the death of the family joker babs cover.

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If tumblr really did read comics, they probably would've demanded Sciver to be fired months ago

>>92152387
There are a lot of people who believe this.

>>92155329
Anyone who reads comics knows than Ethan Van Sciver makes a comic unreadable.

>>92155225
hey remember when the artist for that cover went on to do the interiors for the Batgirl Rebrith series

good times

>>92154923
>Editorial also ruled against a BLM issue by Tom King
Are you talking about the Black Lightning comic? Because that was written as an archive story for when an author can't make a deadline. And it's a damn travesty that we won't get to see it.

>>92155470
I'm not saying that DC hasn't handled the situation well.

But that doesn't mean the SJWs will stop at Marvel, they will come at DC too soon enough. Big spotlight on Marvel, some of the SJWs will soon try to go after DC.

>>92154717
Are you honestly proposing that Harley Quinn is well-written?

>>92155763
where did I say that, anon?

>>92154717
At least they haven't pandered to the Arrow "fanbase"

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>>92155211
Antifa are communists.
Communism =/= Fascism

Look up the Years of Lead. It's where we're headed.

So how does one actually stop SJW hate mobs? Wait until it dies like soccer moms did?

>>92156492
Pretty much.
It's like the Soccer moms they just have to become so laughable that they're just instantly dismissed. Though given how /pol/ and SJWs are now trading physical blows it's a different issue.

>>92155935

The irony is that despite ANTIFA and SJWs hating fascists, they employ fascist tactics and beliefs.

>>92150865
this tbqhwyf

>>92155935
both are shit. I hate the stupid trump crowd and the dumfucks sjw antifas.

Can't we live in a normal world.

>>92159427
Uncompromising extremes defined by their opposition to one another is the new normal, anon. You might want to just get used to it.

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>>92141613
it my be my paranoia at work, but I honestly thought Marvel was mad as hell that Trump won so they took a hard look at which character was beloved the most by the conservatives.... which was Cap, of course...

And decided to just wreck the character with this Hydra thing out of spite.

>>92159568
All this shit has been building since before Trump won, this was the natural course of the story. Most of it started in March 2016.

>>92140449
>Book burning
That's literally what the nazis did guys, how do you use that to complain about Cap being a Nazi?!... GODDAMMIT WHY IS EVERYBODY SO RETARDED.

>>92159642
I thought Spencer only intended this to be an arc limited to his books with minimal crossover, with Secret Empire being a late change in the game plan.

>>92159732

i think it was pretty clear "Every team has a HYDRA mole" was gonna lead to an event

What the fuck is going on, can someone inform me?

>>92159831
Captain America is Hydra

Hydra conquered America

Captain America picked up Mjolnir

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>>92140579
>I'm against Nazis!
>burns books

God, Antifa is the gift that just keeps on giving.

>>92159996
Ann Coulter was disinvited from fairly-conservative Fordham University years before this whole business started up, Ben

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>>92159881
That's FUCKING hilarious. I knew about Captain America being a hydra thing.. But wow, him conquering america; only to wield Mjolnir afterwards kinda makes me feel like they were definitely trying to make some really stupid viewpoint on how trump is literally hitler or something.

>>92141333
Speaking of Tucker Stone and Darwyn Cooke, here's Tucker's eulogy to Darwyn.

http://www.factualopinion.com/the_factual_opinion/2016/05/darwyn.html

>I found out that Darwyn Cooke knew my name back in 2008, when he showed up on this blog and left a comment supporting my decision to burn a giant X-Men omnibus. It remains (and will remain) my favorite way I have ever met a comics creator. I had no idea how he found the blog, or whether he was joking or not about burning books--at the time, I remember being convinced it was some odd kind of joke. I had an email conversation a few days later, but even after I knew it was true, it still had that same feeling: that this couldn't be happening, and I wasn't allowed to be happy about it, because it was a lie, and the rug was gonna get pulled.

>But it was true. And while we didn't speak very much, Darwyn and I did email each other a few times. We spoke mostly about a John Flynn movie called Rolling Thunder that I had fallen for pretty hard, and that eventually led to him asking me to interview him for a big article on his second Parker adaptation, The Outfit.

>>92159881
Captain Thor supports Hydra.

Good.

>>92160182
>It was a lot of work, and I've never done anything quite like it since. I sat in my apartment in Brooklyn, talking to him on the phone for hours. He was funny, charming, and very smart: but most of all, he had a definite set of feelings and opinions about his work and the work of others, and it was exciting to hear that, to hear someone who wasn't concerned with pretending to like everything. I transcribed the conversation into an 15,000 word piece, found a home for it with Laura Hudson, who figured out a way to split it into seperate parts so that whoever it was that owned Comics Alliance at that time would have to give me more money, and we put it out there. I then got a chance to meet Darwyn when he came to New York for a book signing, and he took me out to dinner with Marsha and all his friends. He treated me like I was Gay Talese and he was Sinatra, and while the evening's performative qualities took a wear on both of us as the night went on, it was one of the few times in comics where the show we were all playing at felt like one put on by wry grown-ups as opposed to the dress-up games that stunted children so frequently play now. I lost my temper on one of Darwyn's dipshit synchophants, Darwyn needled him alongside me to defuse the tension, I went home embarrassed. We spoke a few more times, and that was it. I was proud of that piece of writing, and I think Darwyn was happy with how it turned out as well. We had another follow-up planned--the conversation we had on the phone that day went into many more subjects besides Parker--his feelings about Chris Ware, his thoughts on Batwoman, people he didn't like (people that I didn't like), but it never came to pass. I never did the work, and that night had burned me out. I didn't want to be Gay Talese, and I wasn't a good enough writer anyway. Instead I kept the raw mp3 recordings and promised myself we'd do it later.

>>92140633
>white supremacy
Jane Foster is/was white too.

>>92160191
it's not good because it basically throws everything we know about worthiness out the window since Steve is a supervillain in everything but costume

not that Whor didn't also damage the brand a bit but this is just nonsense

>>92160212
>We didn't speak much, but when there was a minor fracas over some comments I made about why the piece went to Comics Alliance instead of its original home, he stood up for me immediately. We caught up briefly, and that was it. Years passed. We decided not to carry the Watchmen books at Bergen, and word got back to Darwyn and Marsha, and I was too lost in my own head to realize how that might make them feel, something I didn't even pick up on until a few years ago, when we saw each other again at TCAF. I'm ashamed that I never reached out to him before I sat down on some useless MoCCA panel to say we were going to do that to a pack of assholes who didn't care about comics in the first place. In that moment, Darwyn deserved to be treated with more respect than I gave him. He deserved a heads up, even if I disagreed with him, because he had disagreed with me multiple times before that and had addressed it with me immediately. I apologized a bunch at, and after, that TCAF show. But a late apology really isn't worth that much. It isn't worth anything at all.

>I am not part of his circle of friends, i'm not a close associate. But I will say that I saw him with those people, and I know that he loved them dearly, and they loved him right back. He was a funny smartass, and I think those are the best kinds of people in the world, and I think there are not enough of them. I wish I had done a better job of being the kind of person to him that he was to me. I will never forget the time I got to spend with him, and how much fun it all was.

>Thanks Darwyn. God bless you too.

>>92141421
>>92141503
Comments like >>92141421 from the comments section of Tucker's page is why I ended up realizing a lot of TCJ/indie fans (or for that matter, readers of caustic comic reviewers, maybe even sometimes Tucker himself or other reviewers like him) are honestly no different than superhero fanboys no matter how much they try to claim any kind of superiority, taste or morality wise.

>>92140449
Why?

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>>92141613
No, you don't understand. If a writer or artist includes a villain that does something evil, they must agree with this villain's standpoint. Especially if this villain has racist views or uses intimidation or violence against women and especially if this writer or artist is male and/or white, it's always just a way for the writer to make readers aware of their racist misogynist nazi agenda. Now take a look at the good comics like America. At least there the villains just get punched out by the brown fist of a strong female character in one panel, so that there is enough room for relationship troubles, quirkyness and showing how strong the main character is by having everyone agree on how cool she is.

>people that don't read comics are mad about comics

why does this keep happening?

>>92140449
>>92140449
further proof you can't please sjws ever. nothing will ever be good enough for them

I hope steve becomes hydra for real after this. Just because I want this anal devastation to last. I like cap but these fuckers don't give a shit about comics.

>>92160991
he's going to die or at least step out of the Cap identity AGAIN and it'll be nothing but Sam for another year or five

>>92160991
That's stupid as fuck, these people would get angry over anything and then in turn do something so stupid it gets the rest of Twitter angry at them. No need to even keep Cap permanently Hydra just to do that.

>>92161023
Eh. Seems lame. To be honest, the change in characters is something I would like if it was done better. I loved when claremont evolved characters when he was in control of x-men. however, he had a unified vision. Where as these have all been grab bag diversity changes. I'm sick of the old but the new is just worse.

>>92159509
yeah but you aren't extreme and I am sure there are other moderates out there as well. Extremism by both sides shouldn't be the norm.

>>92161023
And what happens with Mjolnir?

>>92161609
OG Thor picks it up again at some point during Secret Empire after shaking the Hydra brainwashing and says STEVEN ROGERS, WE WOULD HAVE WORDS WITH THEE

then gets his ass kicked because it's only like issue 5 and Steve got the Power Cosmic or some shit

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>>92145698
>The world mimics comic books
>Instead of comic books mimicking the world to remain topical
This shit right here.
This is why every now and again when the question occurs to me "Wouldn't it be interesting if everything I knew was part of a giant Truman Show?" I have to take a moment before dismissing the idea.
Because I don't understand how this level of idiocy can exist in the real world. This is the kind of shit bad writers make characters say if the characters is meant to portray someone they don't really understand.

>>92162512
>that part of your brain that continuously thinks you're part of the Anon Show
>that other part of your brain that cancels it out because "who'd want to watch you fap all day?"

>>92162541
>that part of my brain that is now questioning how you could know I fap all day
>that other part of my brain that cancels it out because this is fucking 4chan

>>92140579
And literally everyone is shitting on her in the comments.

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>>92140449
Is he right?

>>92140449
Well its at least better than when people burn something they payed for just to burn it.

I mean for fuck's sake, you literally gave the people you hate money to get your hands on it for such a pointless purpose, couldn't you have at least stolen the object in question?

>>92140449
Um... so i have to bring my A game, Ill burn it and then piss on the ashes

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>>92140449

>>92161023
>it'll be nothing but Sam for another year or five
then it will be revealed he always was a secret KKK agent. Yep i like it. makes more sense or at least the same sense than cap being a nazi

>>92163023
I have only heard of one of these sites.

>>92163023
WOW the whole payola exposed. thx kind anon

marvel shill here
thanks for supporting our brand strength. good or bad, what is people only talk about Marvel

>>92152387
we always did, but now that we're globally connected, you can actually see them.
and they let themselves be seen, identified and cleansed, god willing

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>>92163077
>a photograph of sean connery autographed by roger moore
>I won

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>burning a comic is the same as burning a book

>>92163149
It's the same philosophy. "I don't like [opinion], [opinion] must be destroyed, lest it corrupt others". What, you think books are magical in and of themselves?

>>92163167
It's not the same. At all. Most comics aren't worth anything. It'd be like setting a phone book on fire. Who cares why you did it?

>>92163149
Idiots like bendis and slott are not making comics, they are shitposting on paper.

>>92163149
>burning a medium with story representing ideology opposed to yours is somehow different from burning a medium with story representing ideology opposed to yours

>>92159996
Is this a /pol/ edit or a real thing? At this point those are indistinguishable.

>>92163077
Based Snyder.

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>2007 or 2008
>OMD happens
>fans upload videos of themselves destroying the comic to YouTube
>no one cares
>2017
>casuals upload videos of themselves destroying the comic to social media
>everyone gets angry, sad, etc.

>>92141000
>> white Tranny hates what they use to be.

Sad

>>92163194
>>92159996
>I'm against Nazis!
>ideology
more like shitting on a good old loved character to reinforce so Muh correct and progressive black replacement

>>92163077
>>92163137
THIS

>>92163365
I didn't even know that shit happened. Still sounds gay.

>>92163425
I remember one where a fan tore the book off, and one where another used the pages to wipe his ass.

>>92163365
>>OMD happens
>>fans upload videos of themselves destroying the comic to YouTube
Sins past was worse.

>>92163480
That's the appropriate thing to do with One More Day.

>>92163510
Pity that modern comic book pages don't make good toilet paper.

>>92162889
Why else would you want to write comics?

>>92141137

Him being Asian wouldn't have made the plot not bland

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>>92155935

>>92141469
They need to put her in tight pants more...for story reasons, of course.

>>92163186
In this day and age, most books aren't worth anything either.
Either because they're pulp garbage, or because barely anyone bothers to read them anymore.
Does that make it alright to burn books?

>>92163800
Only if you need it to light a fire in a cold winter night on the street.

>>92142079
Problem is long-term, Mjolnir is now worthless.

"Oh wow he picked up the Hammer...oh yeah, Hydra Cap did that so it's not proof of anything."

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>>92163889
>now

>>92163186
It's a symbolic, political act, as ridiculous as it sounds. If you burn a book in your backyard without witness, just to see how it burns, nobody knows and nobody cares. If you take a pic and upload it to social medias while making sure people know you burnt the book, it becomes political. You are opposing something you don't like by using violence. The value of what you destroy doesn't matter. It could be a comic, a novel or an original manuscript, but it's not important. What matters is the act itself.
Of course, the people destroying comic books aren't realizing that they're looking extremely retarded and this action isn't turning them into brave resistant.

>>92163944
what's that from?

>>92163889
>be offered the Mjolnir
>refuse it because that means I'm a feminazi or a Nazi
You used to be better than this, Mjolnir ;_;

>>92163889

Yeah, this is my issue with it.

Whether or not you think they're Nazis, Hydra have always been explicitly evil. They've always been villains. And so, if someone affilated with them is able to life Mjolnir, the shock of someone being able to lift Mjolnir no longer exists, because someone who is a member of a villain faction lifted it.

>>92163889
The whole "Who can pick up the hammer" thing has always been flexible, depending on the writer. Hell, the only official rule is simply "Whoever is worthy of being Thor" which gives no grounds whatsoever on who is immediatelty excluded.

I can buy a villain being able to pick it up if the hammer says "Yup, you could be Thor, alright." It's like whenever something says "Only the pure may weild this weapon" then the pure evil guy picks it up and is a total boss with it.

>>92164084
>Whosoever holds this hammer, if he be worthy, shall possess the power of Thor... Unless you're a Nazi, then you can fuck right off.

>>92164084
It puts Hydra on the same level as Thor, that's bullshit and you know it

>>92164172
Nah, just Cap. Zemo wouldn't be able to lift it as much as he'd like to.

>>92140449
welp, that's going to speed up climate change

>>92141046
He doesn't really try to pander to them - he IS them. He was a politician before he became a comic book writer. That's why he doesn't immediately 180 at every criticism.

To Nick Spencer, all these whiny bitches are mere casuals

>>92164201
This. If the hammer recognizes that Cap is only a Nazi through mind control, but still possesses the worth to be Thor, then it'll still let him lift it.

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>>92164372
It's not mind control, but he's still worthy.

>>92141653
Change hero for protagonist and villain for antagonist and is the same shit.

>>92150485
is that empty paper in her mouth?
or just a really shit prison rollie

>>92163488
>flashbacks to green goblin's O-face
why did you have to do this to me anon

>burning books

Literal nazis

>>92163263
Isn't it beautiful?

>>92164749
>burning books
>policing words

Lit/Lag Nazis

>>92141232
Yeah, Marvel.

>>92144122
^This
We live in an era of buzzwords, which is why Secret Empire is so shit, because it's making those stupid buzzwords literal.

>>92150485
Christ, the...bitch?...can't even roll a cigarette.

>>92163365
Because that was just butthurt fanboys.

This is ideological. One is self-harm, the other is more indicative of dangerous trends in society.

>>92165044
>just butthurt fanboys
Says Quesada, the butthurt divorcee.

>>92165781
I'm not defending Quesada or OMD at all. But it's all about where the anger is coming from. With OMD, it was people reacting negatively because they didn't like the story from an entertainment point of view, or felt it went against the character, or any myriad of reasons.

This is because this storyline has been presented as politically problematic and thus must be expunged as part of a systematic effort to rid society of any and all references to things that are politically problematic.

There is a difference.

>>92165818
It's also a pretty weak premise. "I changed reality where Steve was a Hydra plant all along" is a pretty contrived concept in itself, obviously made for the social commentary instead of something meaningful to the character.

Like, right now, regular Steve Rogers is essentially dead and we're waiting for the comic book revival like every other time. Those moments suck for those who actually enjoy his character.

All the anger about "character made by two JEWISH men is now a NAZI" is playing into Marvel's stupid playbook that may actually be their downfall this time if people wise up and stop talking about their outrage.

>>92140965
that looks like it would produce some pretty gnarly fumes.

Captcha: Einfahrt PROPERTIES, ha.

>>92150485
>the abject squalor and clutter behind the patio door
>a dissected overturned grill littering the patio
Bitch, clean that up.

>>92162580
Yeah, almost all of those are people from this thread guaranteed. One posted his exact comment here first, another speaks in
>greentext
on twitter, one literally is called @red_piller, etc.
If you guys want her to think people associate her with nazism don't show off that you're a 4chan troll or she will just see you as "the enemy" and brush off your comments.

Congrats guys, it made Bleeding Cool. Most people in the comments there seem to be somewhat reasonable.

https://www.bleedingcool.com/2017/05/07/burning-copies-of-secret-empire-on-free-comic-book-day/

HOW CAN WE READ WHEN OUR BOOKS ARE BURNING

>burning books when you could be shoving them up and down Nick Spencer's holes

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>>92168186
I don't have a GIF that accurately captures Garrett's mong dancing, so have this instead

>>92143616
SJWs are almost always middle class white millennials. I don't need them trying to fight for the equality that I already have, those fucking racist idiots

>>92168154
>Deadpool is Hydra now too
Always the opportunist, Wade.

>>92142206
>People died in shit filled mud holes fighting against actual fascists in Europe
>Lol I stand against fascism cause I wrote a shitty comic guise

>>92168154
>i will collect al the copies of secret empire burn them to ashes and shove the ashes up nick spencers sticky asshole
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nSKkwzwdW4

>>92140449
>burning books to stick it to fascism

pottery

>>92168186
BUT IF I WRITE ALL DAY ABOUT NAZI CAP
THERE'LL BE FOOD ON THE TABLE TONIGHT

>>92155669
I'm sure plenty of SJWs are after DC's throat too, but DC don't acknowledge them, which is the key to all this
Deny them what they want the most: attention. For them attention equals justification and vindication.