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When will his suffering end Edition

>Upcoming Releases:
http://www.swbooks.net/updates/release-2017.htm

>Out this Week:
The Classic Newspaper Comics Vol. 1 (May 9th)
Screaming Citadel #1 (May 10th)

>Star Wars: The Last Jedi trailer
https://youtu.be/zB4I68XVPzQ

>Star Wars: Rebels - The Final Season
https://youtu.be/-b7GAhnVwhA

>Battlefront 2 trailer:
https://youtu.be/Kae-JjbLsgA

>Download links: (Check here for new Rebels Episodes + Books, Comics, Films, etc)
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>Canon Guide:
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>Legends Recommendation List:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/147N5EgCnZmcPaDYvnGQwl9cn7BhBroFb7mD2C4cmWb0/edit?usp=sharing
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I want to go on adventure with Captain.
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Are you a fan of the Fett or more of a Star Wars guy?
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Best pairing
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>>92138018
Finn is for Rose.
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>>92137950
>forgot Revenge of the Sixth
ONE FUCKING JOB
RUINED TWICE IN A ROW
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>>92138004
I want to be her scout trooper bf
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Guy who proposed Rot6 in the last thread.

This man >>92138111 does not speak for me.
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stormtrooper who was trained by darth vader and can use a lightsaber.

what do you guys think?
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>>92138135
You seem like a chill guy. I would have used this pic, had I seen it sooner.
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>>92138161
worst thing in the entire new canon, SCAR squad makes TFA look good, I hope Luke kicks their fucking asses getting back C3PO
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>>92138111
I don't see you making a new thread and updating shit. When you do, you can complain.
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>>92138172
I still love these stupid hat edits.
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>>92138161
>stormtrooper who was trained by darth vader and can use a lightsaber.
What difference with Inquisitors? And why tech no-force-user? Just reactivate Magna-guards, they will kick ass to any self-proclaimed jedi.
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>>92138205
Staple of this thread
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>>92138161
I think Luke should kick that guy's ass
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>>92138198
I made the second May the Fourth thread
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>>92138161
I could buy his being trained in the fundamentals of general swordplay with a lightsaber by Vader to make for a decent impression on Grakkus. Either that or he simply learned on the go, just as Pre Vizsla did.

Either way, his having kept one lightsaber of Grakkus' collection for himself away from Vader is curious. He overestimates his abilities, no doubt.
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>>92137950
It doesn't.
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I'm employed now, so I probably can't do these too often anymore, but since it's been a while, what is she, /swco/?
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>>92138472
An elegant figure from a more civilized age
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>>92138472
she's a casualty of order 66
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>>92138472
Rule 63 Kermit the Frog?
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>>92138472
Your employed, what job do you have?
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>>92138926
I'm on a mowing crew for a local landscaping company.
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>>92139028
cool
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>>92139028
BUILD A WALL AROUND /co/ TO KEEP RIG NEMA POSTERS OUT
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>>92139288
At this rate, construction on the wall will begin as soon as the term is over.
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>>92139288
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STREAM NOW!

Come join us for a Prequel marathon! Including, but not limited to: TPM, AotC, RotS, and R1!

Also the new Samurai Jeck
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>>92139336
At the rate illegals are self-deporting and Mexicans are opting out, it appears that Trump is a sorcerer that has conjured up an invisible magic wall already.
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>>92139396
>He's a wizard

I needed that laugh.
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anyone got more old man luke fanart with lightsaber?
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>>92138018
>you will never witness their friendship first hand
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>>92139396
>the wall was just a massive ruse this entire time to get illegals to leave of their own accord
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>listening to the canon YA Episode 4 audio book
>as soon as Luke gets to Yavin IV they have him train in an X-Wing simulator to prepare for the upcoming battle
>the engineer who introduces him to the simulator has a thick Scottish accent and is friends with Wedge
If Zeb survives season 4 I'm totally making him introducing Luke to X-Wings my headcanon.
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>>92138161
Holy fuck
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>>92138161
This is fake.
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>>92139493
He think zeb is doing a Scottish accent
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>>92139493
Zeb's accent isn't really thick though
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>>92139756
>>92139797
I don't know how exactly to explain Zeb's accent. The point though is the guy sounded exactly like Zeb.
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>>92139858
Oh right, you're listening to the audiobook, gotcha
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In the nucanon, how many Jedi survived the initial purge to have to be cleaned up by Vader and his inquisitors afterwards?
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>>92138472
I just had a thought. Maybe she's an in-joke, she even mentions not knowing much about Yoda's physiology since his species is so rare, thusly, she herself does not have a known species name. Well played Lucas.
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>>92140366
We know that inquisitors are ex-jedi and that at least Ahsoka and Kanan survived the purge but beyond that? Who knows.
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>>92140366
There's a comic literally about that coming out very soon
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I want a trilogy
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Has anyone read Rebel Rising yet?
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>Star Wars-Character
When will this meme stop?
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>>92141233
I'm about a fourth of the way through it right now.
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>>92141442
Yeah, I don't like that either
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>>92141442
what is this in reference to
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>it's another "waste everyone's time with the antics of R2 and the other droids that nobody cares about" Clone Wars episode
why is this allowed?
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>>92139435
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Say what you will about Phantom Menace, but I love Qui-gon Jinn.
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I wish the Force Awakens was just Finn and Poe on some cool adventure to get to the Resistance base. Rey felt kinda boring.
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>>92141680
>people want an obi wan movie
>not a qui-gon jinn movie
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>>92141680
If Qui-Gon had listened to Yoda about Anakin being too old everything would have been saved
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>>92141738
He just seems like what an old school Jedi should be. This wise old dude that doesn't abide by the rules but still has morals. He's what the Original Trilogy Obi-Wan was like. All the prequel stuff about the Jedi just feels kinda off when compared to the first movies.
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>>92141781
But then Yoda backs down and lets Obi-Wan train him anyway.
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I forgot, did Poe ever interact with Rey?
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>>92141854
Not really. The main trio barely even knew one another.
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>>92141717
I wish it was an actual search for Luke and rip-roaring adventure.
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Without a doubt, the best villain that Star Wars has portrayed on screen...
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>>92141890
My favorite part of the movie was Finn and Poe stealing the Tie Fighter. I felt some energy between the characters and the scenes felt really cool. Like this was the kick start of a really awesome adventure.

Then they crash on Tatoonie. Poe and Finn are seperated for the next two arcs of the movie, and we meet Rey.
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>>92141854
I suspect they'll meet in the next movie. I wish the the new Tril. would feature more Poe/Finn, less Rey/Kylo
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>>92141975
I enjoyed that scene too. From there it should've been the race to Ahch-To while being dogged by the FO.
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>>92141975
>>92142048
Agreed as well bros, great scene...
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>>92141680
I love his Gin to
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>>92141942
>krennic
>god
>can't even spot the traitor who's sabotaging his life's work while under his under his direct supervision
sad!
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>>92141854
Nope. They were only in the same place once, when BB-8 and Artoo put the map pieces together, but they don't interact at all.

We can probably assume that someone introduced the two, but it's pretty stupid that nobody bothered to ever show two of the supposed main three characters interacting.
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What Star Wars vidya can I buy Death Sticks?
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>>92141854
In the novelization there's a scene where he buttfucks Rey in the pussy as Finn looks down in shame.
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>>92142379
You don't want to buy any deathsticks
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>>92142406
My favorite part is when Snap tries to join in but can't get it up
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>>92142438
I don't want to buy any deathsticks
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>>92142467
You want to go home, and rethink your life
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>>92142478
I want to go home, and rethink my life.
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>>92142406
>buttfucks
>in the pussy
???
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>>92142660
New to 4chan?
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>>92141975
>Tatooine
Jakku, anon.
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>>92142991
>Raxis Prime
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>there will never be an AU comic about Luke and Vader ruling the galaxy together as father and son
Would Luke be able to curb his father's villainy?
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>>92137950
Free him.
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>>92143067
Junk planet...well played.
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>>92138067

damn, they couldn't pair him with a good looking asian women? had to be this tubby thing?
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I've been wondering: would Anakin have lived a happy life if the Jedi never found him?
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>>92143168
No, he hates sand
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>>92143168
Probably not. Would have eventually discovered his own force sensitivity, maybe the sith would find him first, either way it was gonna end bad.
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>>92143238
This. And having spent his entire childhood and adolescence as a slave, he probably would have gone straight to the dark side and not gone back to the light in the end
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Is the Dark Side actually stronger?
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>>92143309
No, no, no. Quicker, easier, more seductive.
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>>92142991
Its Tatooine, anon. Don't let the words written by men play upon you. Trust in your own sight what you see.
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>>92143309
Apparently it won't matter since Luke fucked up the New Jedi Order.
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>>92143345
Seductive, you say...
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How do Inquisitors in EU differ from the canon ones?
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>Zeb is in Rebel Rising
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>>92143507
They're more powerful in the EU, but deliberately neutered in canon just because it wouldn't make sense for the Sith to let non-Sith minions get very powerful.
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>>92143507
the inquisitors in the EU are not canon and therefore are unimportant, whereas the ones in the new canon are canon and thus are important
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>>92141680
>pre tpm Qui-gon and Obiwan movie
>comfy Jedi missions
>Master Dooku still on the council
>more Jedi as peacekeepers before the war fucked everything up
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>>92143358
You know what I don't see? Mos Eisley OR Mos Espa. Or Jawas or Hutts or Sand People.
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>>92143588
That one guy in that one shot of ANH is canon and he isn't important
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>>92143660
you're right but he's more important than anybody in the EU
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>>92143632
exactly, its tatooine without any of the things that made tatooine interesting
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Was giving Anakin an apprentice a good idea?
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>>92143358
>all deserts are automatically Tatooine

Fuck you.
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>>92143751
One of Lucas' best
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>>92143751
considering how everybody loves ahsoka, my guess is yes
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>>92143792

They're functionally identical. You could say star destroyers crashed on Tatooine and it'd make no difference.
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>>92143816
Specifically just the dune sea of tatooine. For a "single biome planet" Tatooine had a wide variety of desert type environments and interesting and unique geology and geography. Jakku is literally nothing but endless dunes and a few small salt pans. Arrakis was more variegated than that.
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>>92143804
I don't.
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>>92143792
>has no identity of its own besides "couple of wrecks"
>what little architecture is borrowed from McQuarrie's designs for Jabba's Palace
>fills the same functional role it did in ANH and to a lesser extent ROTJ as a desolate dead-end place that the hero begins from before experiencing a larger universe
For all intents and purposes it's Tatooine 2. People even assumed it was Tatooine for months until it was confirmed to be a different planet. For all the shit the Hoth remake scene in TLJ is getting at least we can already tell it isn't literally Hoth.
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>>92143900
That's because you're not everybody, you're nobody.
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>>92143906
This. It's not even hard to give two similar one-climate planets different vibes. Geonosis and Jedha are both rocky deserts but they both have a distinct visual identity.
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>>92143906
>>92143953
Apparently Jakku is actually supposed to be cold, but they did a horrible job of showcasing that. With Jedha you could immediately tell it was a colder planet just by having people dressed in jackets and scarves.
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>>92143990
They also had a lot of steam and smoke coming out of everywhere, with breaths too, and a sort of hazy wintry mist that all together implied frigidity.
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Roses are red
Velcro's a fastener
If this is a consular ship
Where's the ambasssdor?
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>>92143990
>>92144036
On top of this they also played with the color to emphasize blue slightly over yellow, which gives it a cooler fell.

The Jakku scenes meanwhile kept an orange tone to them which automatically makes you think "hot" regardless of what's on-screen, so with that and having people constantly sweating and wearing loose clothing immediately signals to the audience that this is a hot environment.
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Why is Mace Windu such a shithead in the cgi cartoon?
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>>92144221
because sam jacksons a shithead irl
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What if Raddus and the fleet never arrived? Would they have managed to get the plans out without the base getting locked down?
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>>92143990
>>92144036
>>92144187
Actually you guys are wrong. Jakku is hot. All that "cold desert" stuff was concept that never got implemented
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>>92144914
After all, why else would Finn be desperate for water if he hadn't just sweated it all out?
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>>92143990
>>92144036
>>92144187
Yeah, it's so cold it it makes you sweat.
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Did Obi-Wan and Ahsoka know about Anakin and Padme?
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>>92145407
Yeah, they both did.

Obi-Wan shows multiple times in TCW where he is turning a blind eye to Anakin's love life. Then in RotS he says "Anakin's the father, isn't he?"

As for Ahsoka, her "... I know." says it all.
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>>92145407
They probably suspected. Yoda knew but the idea isn't 'THIS GUY HAS A GIRLFRIEND SO KICK HIM OUT OF THE JEDI FOREVER AHHHHHHHHHH' the idea is that you try and help them come to terms with the fact that this relationship can't go on. Sort of like a Christian who tells his priest that he's struggling with masturbation during confession. The church doesn't kick him out and say he's doomed to go to hell, they try and help him get a more healthy hobby.
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>>92145407
They both know according to TCW. Obi-Wan actually talks to Anakin about him in one episode.
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>>92143990
I like how RLM complained Jedha was too much like Tatooine
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REBEL RISING IS CUTE BUT ALSO overwhelming me with a soul crushing depression
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>>92143990
As for Jedha, I thought it was hot and people wore heavy robes to keep cool like in real life
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>>92147462
People were wearing parkas, dude.
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>>92147644
Ah shit, you're right, that's exactly what Jyn and Cassian are wearing aren't they.
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>>92138067
>ashi irl
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>>92143900
I've genuinely never understood how anybody liked Ahsoka.
Even at the point where she supposedly stops being annoying, I just wished I could be watching literally anybody else in this series the whole time she's on screen about 3 seasons in and it never stopped.
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>>92145407
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VJWnfNB_H9k

https://youtu.be/uK-nR3IL-4U?t=1m10s
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>>92143398
Oh yes.
At least half of Sith training involves body language and the art of visual persuasion some consider to be...unnatural.
To say nothing of the black leather and long, comfortable robes you'll be wearing around the house.
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>>92150185
Obi-Wan in that clip only seems like he knows that Anakin is in love with Padme, not that they're involved.
The Ahsoka clip implies about the same, but in her last appearance (when she leaves the order) it's pretty heavily implied imo that she knows they're together
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>>92150762
According to Filoni that's exactly what she was implying in that last scene. She knows there's something going on there, but hasn't quite figured out how far it goes (i.e. that they're literally married)
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>>92143632
>>92143792
Newfags its literally discount Tatooine.
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I don't really like the first order stormtroopers, but the TIE pilots are sexy as hell. I wish they'd actually given us a new FO fighter or TIE variant though, instead of just an inverted TIE. Making them black was pretty stupid too for space scenes, no wonder theyre ditching poes black xwing in the TLJ
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>>92143632
Its literally as close to tattooine as they could make it without it being named tattoine
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>>92151858
pic related
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>>92151750
Anyone else reminded of the First Order stormtroopers whenever they look at the newer 4Runners?
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Tell me anons, are Rebel Rising and Guardians of the Whills worth reading?

I'm trying to collect and read all the nucanon material, but these are for younger readers.

So are they worth buying?
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>>92152069
They are.
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>>92152069
Rebel Rising is pretty good, I finished reading it 15 minutes ago. It's a YA novel but if you liked Lost Stars, also a YA novel, you'll like it. It seems like it"d be good to reread too.

I haven't read Guardians of the Whills yet though.
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>>92152230
I loved Los Stars, thanks anon.
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>>92152069
Lost Stars was for younger readers too, and it's one of the best reads out there.

Also, Whills is pretty comfy
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>>92151750
I was pretty disappointing at how the SF TIE looked just like a regular TIE but with a extra pair of guns sticking out of it. Missed opportunity for an interesting TIE design.
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Since the IDT and Police Gunship are canon, you think these guys will make a return? What was their purpose in the first place? Can't a IDT or LAAT do everything it does?
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>>92152633

They could have at least enlongated it like a TIE bomber or something.
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>>92151750
I hope we get to see FO's version of a scout trooper. These guys were always my favorite
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>>92143309
No. The Dark Side is just about being a dick and using your magic in cruel and unusual ways where as the Light Side is about restraint and not being a powermad dick. But of course Lucas had to add in the whole "THE MORE YOU USE THE DARK SIDE THE MORE CORRUPT YOU GET WHOAAAA" faggotry in there which takes away agency.
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What did you guys think of the First Order Flame and Snowtrooper designs?

I don't mind them actually. I'm just not a fan of the regular troopers.
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>>92153305
my problem with TFO designs is that they look too damn shiny and new.
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>>92153305
They're meh. Passable.

Leagues better than the shitty main troopers though
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>>92153305
They ruined the Snowtrooper, which was my favorite trooper variant
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>>92143133
John likes em Asian and thicc
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>>92152633
I feel like the TIE Striker should've been what the First Order was using.
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>>92153541
Yeah, they're not great designs but I like that there's more variation on them than just "stormtrooper with some extra lines." The flametrooper especially, since it's clearly evoking stormtroopers but isn't just a tweaked version of an OT design. It's not an amazing design but I would've preferred the flametrooper design be used as the standard FO stormtrooper over what we got.
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>>92154050
>that flamethrower design
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>>92153305
Flametrooper is my favorite trooper design in the whole franchise.

Snowtrooper is just kinda eh. Vastly prefer the OT Snowtrooper.
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>>92153305
Theyre ok I gues I just really don't like the slit eyes on them or the flametroopers. I feel like they need to keep the stormtrooper eyegoggles or have something with a similar basic shape like what was done with the scout troopers goggles. The scout troopers helmet is and almost entirely different design but the eyes are what let you know it's a bother stormtrooper. That and the whole gas mask look. I think think stripping away all those seemingly functional elements is what wrong with the first order stuff. I guess they're sort of there but on the OT troopers it's those functional elements that form the face, whereas the First order stuff it's their to mimic the look of the old troopers
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>>92152727
I wish they'd used these more, they're beautiful.
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These were the best snowtroopers
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>>92156354
what were these guys for exactly?
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>>92156354
I pick these
It's just a shame we only saw them with the stupid wolfpack markings
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>>92156575
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Galactic_Marines
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If lekku are so sensitive why are they always super exposed
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>>92156723
It's because they're so sensitive. Cloth covers would be like having a silk finger cuff on your dick all the time.
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>>92153825
I think they should have saved the inquisitors tie design for TFA
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>>92156903
>having a silk finger cuff on your dick all the time
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>>92156580
never seen these guys before where did you find this?
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>>92157695
They're from TCW season 6 when Plo finds Sifo-Dyas's ship.
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>>92157238
Eh, it's too close to the TIE Advanced. It works as a variant within the Empire itself, but it'd be just as disappointing as an FO model as the one we got was.
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>>92156226
Reminds me of the heavy Imperial units in Battlegrounds
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TLJ First Order Stormtrooper helmets look so much better than the TFA ones
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>>92158682
They're an improvement but I still don't like them
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>>92158682
Tacticool pouch vests: yay or nay?

I like it.
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>>92096323
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Did they explain, what exacty was Galen farming?
There are moisture vaporators all over the place, but the planet doesnt seem to be needing for water.
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>>92158985
>There are moisture vaporators all over the place, but the planet doesnt seem to be needing for water.
I figure they're still handy to use if you're not close to a river or other body of water. He'd probably be easier to find if he stayed close to a river or lake rather than farming out in the middle of nowhere.
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>>92158985
Apparently the groundwater sucks because of a bunch of minerals in the ground.
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>>92158682
I imagine it will still look derpy from other angles
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>>92158985
The ground water is contaminated with minerals and other chemicals. It's much easier to use a moisture vaporator to purify water.
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>>92158985
>Did they explain, what exacty was Galen farming?
Nothing special, just some crops. Enough to sustain the family.
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>>92157988
It's not a star destroyer, but it'll do.
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What if these:
>>92156580
Were just these:
>>92156354
without the extra cloth mask part?
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>>92158985
Those are the opposite of moisture vaporators; dryness devaporators.

Ya see it's always misting on that planet, so in order to keep the ground from being perpetual mud, you gotta use dryness devaporators to dry stuff out.
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>>92159374
>game is almost 20 years old
>no one else will get this
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Who would win in a fight? Child Jyn or Rey?
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>>92160559
Better question.
Who would make the other cum faster adult Jyn or adult Rey?
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>>92160559
me
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>>92160559
Child Jyn ended up in uncle Saw's boot camp as soon as she was rescued. But even if he went easier on her (I haven't read Rebel Rising yet), she was still trained in outdoorsman and survivalist skills by Lyra at that point.

But for all we know, Rey might have been murdering people with her mind as a kid or something and that's why her parents dumped her.

So, as of now definitely Jyn, with the conceit that Rey might take the spot once we actuallly learn something about her backstory.
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>>92160559
Rey has spaghetti arms, I doubt she could even take on 4 year old Jyn
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>reading book in my room
>dad is in the living room watching some old comedy VHS
>suddenly hear him laughing HARD
>he yells "HEY ANON COME HERE"
>dude it's past midnight don't yell
>go see what he wants
>"Yo check this out"
>he can't contain himself, and he can't stop laughing
>rewinds and plays this
https://youtu.be/0kJkhEcQ44k
>starts laughing everytime Richard says something
"HAHA, HE SAID HE KNOWS THE DEVIL WHEN HE SEES HIM, OH LORD"
>it's just a Devaronian
>I'm just confused as to how he was able to use actual star wars species for his skit
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>>92161022
Fun fact: they used actual Satan costume for the Devaronian in the cantina in Episode 4.
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>>92161075
And the wolfman was there, too.
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What's more badass location for Darth Vader's fortress: Vjun from the Legends or Mustafar from the canon?
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>>92161272
EU is better in almost every respect for me, but Mustafar is a much darker and therefore better choice. For him to be forced to live where he last saw Padme, fought his mentor and best friend, and was horribly maimed and burned is perfect.
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>>92138161
>dark troopers got retconned for this

Drones will defend this
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>Ion torpedoes are a trademark ship-disabling weapon of Y-wings in EU
>never mentioned in the films
>made forever canon by Rogue One

just one more reason to love the film
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>>92161367
i can't believe jon believes in eugenics...
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>>92158985
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>>92161356
Palpatine sure loves to mock Vader.
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>>92140366
>In the old Canon almost 200 jedi survived
>Meanwhile Traya's purge left less than five jedi alive.
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>>92161272
I hope they return to an abandoned castle in future stories like they did in the EU.
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Do we have a date for the upcoming Vader comic?
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>>92138004

I want to tell her I still believe in her, despite her fucking up at Eadu... she'd go hmph... and I'd swap places with TK-235.
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>>92164332
June 7th for #1, June 21st for #2.
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So is Jizz still canon?
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>>92138172
you need to step up your hat game
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>>92138230
yall need to step up your hat game
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>>92164690
Okay when did Luke inherit the title of Undertaker?
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>>92138216
Because the Inquisitors are too heavily connected to Rebels. No writer wants to go near that.
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>>92164538
Thanks anon
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>there's a Star Wars toy code-named "Poopy Butthole"

DISNEY.
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>>92164829
it's a code name, who fucking cares
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>>92161356
>RAAGGHH THIS LOOKS LIKE A GREAT PLACE FOR A CASTLE
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>>92164829
That's for a Rick and Morty series of toys. Notice the RICK and MORTY toys using the same naming convention.
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>>92161272
Mustafar. Vjun doesn't really have anything going for it personally and is just there.
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>>92164829
>>92164890
Or should I say look for the R&M and Morty toys. Sorry, just woke up.
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>>92164901
Vjun has acid rains 24/7.
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"Learn about velour, Captain. When you understand a species' plush woven fabric, you understand that species."
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>>92164829
wow a star wars toy called super goku black
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>>92164890
>>92164909

that makes it worse somehow. as a code name it made me think it was a barfing Rancor or something.

people actually watch this shit?
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>>92164935
this made laugh really hard
thanks anon
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So logically right after Episode IV Mothma should tell Luke about Kanan and Ezra (assuming they don't survive) right? Because after listening to the canon YA novel Luke has absolutely no idea what to do to continue his training. He barely knows what the force is let alone what Jedi training actually entails so I could easily see Mothma sensing this and telling Luke to go check out the temple in Lothal or to find Hera and learn about Kanan and Ezra's training.
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>>92165072
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>>92165072
All of Luke's solo missions post-ANH have been visiting old Jedi Temples, so maybe he'll go to Lothal sometime
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>>92164927
DELETE
THIS
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>>92163883
did vader have cardboard cutouts of himself hanging around in his castle
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>>92165113
Perhaps this is more to your liking?
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>>92165146
DELETE EVERYTHING
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>>92165140
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>>92165157
Are you upset?
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>>92164864
>I HATE YOU!
>ALSO COULD YOU CALL MY REAL ESTATE GUY FOR ME? MY PHONE FUCKING MELTED BUT I WANT TO KNOW WHAT THE GOING RATE IS FOR LAND AROUND HERE, THIS PLACE HAS A GREAT VIEW!
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>yfw if you look closely at the books in Luke's cave in TLJ you see books called 'The Journal of Ben Kenobi' and 'Heir to the Jedi' right next to the training holocron Ahsoka had in rebels
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>>92165272
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>>92165140
More importantly, does Vader have a cozy sex dungeon containing a few unfortunate Inkies in his castle?
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>>92164793
When he buried the Jedi Order.
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>>92163411
That you knew of.
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>>92165476
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>>92165501
*from a certain point of view
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>ESB trailer
>shows Yoda and Ben urging Luke not to save Leia and Han
>WOAH HOLY SHIT SO I GUESS IN THIS MOVIE THE REBELLION ENDS AND THE EMPIRE RULES THE GALAXY FOREVER THEN
>ROTS trailer
>shows Anakin and Obi-Wan arguing on Mustafar
>WOAH SO I GUESS THEYRE RETCONNING EPISODE 6 AND VADER STAYS BAD FOREVER AND EVER
>TLJ trailer
>shows a defeated Luke reluctant to train any more Jedi after his last padawan turned to the dark side
>WOAH HOLY SHIT I GUESS THIS MEANS LUKE WILL NEVER EVER TRAIN ANY MORE JEDI AND THE JEDI ORDER WILL NEVER EVER EVER FOREVER AND EVER BE BROUGHT BACK
I would sum it up to normies being stupid but I've seen people in these threads say this shit. How fucking stupid are people not to see an obvious character arc that's been done millions of times before?
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>>92165567
>How fucking stupid are people not to see an obvious character arc that's been done millions of times before?

SO STUPID.
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Wouldn't Vader being raised a slave and showing an extreme hatred of Slavers when he was a Jedi not approve of the Empire's actions on Kashyyk? You would think he would dismantle that shit on general principle.
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>>92165679
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaOSCASqLsE
It still gets me.
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>>92165567
Because your comparing the wrong things anon
Luke would obviously defy Yoda and Ben because he cares for his friends and for the Rebellion
Anakin would eventually be redeemed because of the love of his family was what drove him to the Dark Side in the first place.

But name one good thing the Jedi have EVER done for Luke. Name one good reason why, after seeing his attempt to recreate the Jedi LITERALLY burn down in front of him because of the exact same bullshit that caused the old Jedi Order to be destroyed, Luke would want to try again

The Jedi are dead. The Sith are dead. Its long past time we got something new to step up.
Or do you just want another retread of old ideas, but a little less obvious this time? Because I'm starting to think that's all people want, the exact same reheated shit as TFA but with just a tiny bit more obfuscation
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>>92165730
The thing is the Emperor is the Master and Vader is back to being a slave so really he has no say in anything.
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>>92165732
What makes it funny is that it can fit in canon.
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>>92165272
>FROM MY POINT OF VIEW, THE ZONING BOARD IS EVIL!
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>>92165754
>But name one good thing the Jedi have EVER done for Luke.

Taught him how to dress for success.
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>>92165754
>school shooters exist so we should NEVER build schools EVER again!!!
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>>92165754
>same old stuff happens
WAHHHH I WANT SOMETHING NEW

>new stuff happens
WAHHHH ITS JUST THE SAME OLD STUFF AGAIN

Well what the fuck do you want?"

"NOT SHIT WAHHHHH"


Example?

"I want it to be what I WANT IT TO BE WAHHHH"

This is the dilemma we're facing. People are TERRIFIED of the idea of new things. Like the constant "Rey's parents are someone we've already seen."
And all that shit.

Not once have I ever seen someone propose it's a new character or something. People don't WANT that. But they also want something new and surprising without having to put in any effort to decide what that even is to them.
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>>92165476
>>92165506
>>92164793
And then he jobs to upstart Jedi Rom'An Reigns.
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>>92165806
Nice strawman bro
Its not about the fact Ben destroyed the school (although I doubt that helped, Luke was probably having flashbacks to the Lars homestead) its the fact that one student's emotions and family problems once again got the better of them and led to them falling to the Dark Side because the Jedi teachings don't offer any help on how to let people process that sort of crap within a Jedi framework
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>>92145678
>As for Ahsoka, her "... I know." says it all.
Did anyone ever confirm this? I always assumed she was just talking about how Anakin couldn't stand the Jedi ways.
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>>92165754
Luke is obviously going through the 'mentor figure who's hope is renewed by an apprentice' character arc. Daisey Ridley literally said this at celebration. The trailer literally shows him training Rey for fucks sakes. Luke will be a dick at the beginning of the movie and say 'Its time for the Jedi to end' and then he'll decide to start training Rey in a very brutal style hoping that she gives up. Then he'll slowly realize the galaxy needs the Jedi and by the end of the movie he'll be back to his old self.
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>>92165809
>This is the dilemma we're facing. People are TERRIFIED of the idea of new things

Nothing in TFA was new. and the biggest criticism of TLJ trailer is that it looks like another rehash.
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>>92165862
Personally I think Anakin's reaction is too surprised for her to have just been insinuating that he disagrees with the order. I think that reaction only fits with a bombshell-type revelation.
Maybe he was worried that she knew Padme was an anal-only buttslut, seeing as the order expressly forbid anal love
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>>92165906
They pick up on those things and complain about them, but the last two years have been filled to bursting with people suggesting Rey is the child of this or that previously established character, or that Snoke is going to be a character referenced all of once in the prequels.
People complain loudly about things that resemble old stuff for resembling old stuff, but they bitch for literal years about how new stuff shouldn't actually be new without even realizing it
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>>92165986
Wow it's almost as like people who enthusiastically debate over which rehashed character Rey's parents are aren't the same people as the ones bitching about rehashes, and furthermore you must be very new here if you don't recognize that all of the SNOKE IS DINDU XDDD posts on /tv/ and /swco/ are memes that are meant to make fun of sequel trilogy rehashing.
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>>92166054
I'm not talking about /swco/, I'm talking about the wider fanbase, that is just as full of people saying "TFA was OK, but a bit too much of an ANH rehash" while also saying Rey just HAS to be related to someone else we've already met for reasons that ultimately break down to their inability to accept something new being added to the trilogy
Same shit for the Snoke theories, they've calmed down now but after TFA released they were fucking everywhere. Shit, that ubiquity is exactly what made "Snoke is totally X character" into a joke in the first place
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Reminder that the Mon Calamari cruiser, specifically Home One is the best Rebel capital ship.
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>>92166397
Well naturally a turd will win best Rebel capital ship when there's so little competition.The only well designed rebel ships are the fighters and the Alderaanian Cruisers
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>>92165866
i think you are very close. i disagree with you on a few things tho.

first off i don't think they are going to make luke a dick. it's not in his nature. i think they are going to make him a little crazy. crazy as in odd old man who talks to birds.

secondly, i don't think the line "It's time for the Jedi to end" will be said in the film. if you listen very carefully to the audio you can hear that it is spliced together. "it's time for the Jedi" is spliced with "to end".

thirdly, once rey convinces cooky old luke to snap out of being a loon and train her he will. but he won't want her to give up. he will want her to succeed.

I agree Reys training will be brutal but not by lukes doing. what will be brutal will be force vision shit the sea monster and her battle with kylo

everything else you said i agree with tho
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Every single named character death in canon.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pveSxYsGeGY
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>>92166686
>qt captain dies instantly
It's not fair.
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>>92166397
The Moncals had way better shielding than anything in the Imperial Fleet.
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>>92166686
>21:00

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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How did Ahsoka know Palpatine was Darth Sidious? In the Ahsoka novel it states that she knew.
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>>92166686
Wait, but I thought they all had names
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Jesus Christ Shadows of the Empire has not aged well. At least not on the N64.
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>>92167440
To be fair, there aren't a whole lot of N64 games that aged well.
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>>92167356
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>>92167440
>>92167557
Lets be honest here the only levels that anyone really remembers are the proto Rogue Squadron levels in the beginning and the end,
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>>92166686
RIP my nigga fives
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>>92164968
>too retarded to see that wasn't star wars
>insists it's the R&M fans who are the real retards
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>>92165866
>>92166621
Does anybody know how many pictures he's signed up for? I have a feeling that he's gonna die in TLJ and either be in IX only as a force ghost or in flashbacks.
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It's like having a genie and asking him for a dollar
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>>92167890
Atleast is't not 'WHENS REVAN COMING BACK SHES THE BEST' he gets enough of that
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>>92167890
>log onto twitter
>search "pablo hidalgo"
>ask that question
>wait for answer

Did that dude not realize he could just type "Empire Strikes Back script" into google?
Or look the video up on youtube?
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>>92167877
he is confirmed for ix. kathy just stated that they had to change ix cuz carried kicked the bucket so i doubt their gonna kill him off
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>>92167957
Revan was a guy.
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>>92167957
>Revan
>she

jest of the century
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>>92167890
JESUS FUCKING CHRIST ITS NOT LIKE THE MOVIE IS SOME INSCRUTABLE SECRET DOCUMENT LOCKED AWAY IN A VAULT JUST WATCH THE DAMN THING TO CONFIRM FOR YOURSELF

That's not like asking the genie for a dollar that's like asking the genie how to breathe or what the time of day is
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Has anyone gotten a scan for Blade Squadron: Jakku yet?
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>>92167890
https://youtu.be/uItBqcvJSic
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>>92168116
It's been posted twice already.
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>>92167890
>He chooses to answer a question that's easy
>People get assmad it's not about their super obscure character who had 3 frames in one film
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>>92168132
Yet a ctrl+f returns nothing, and it's not in the pastebin. Sorry for not being active in every thread.
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>>92168025
SW "fans" are stupid as fuck, and these are the people that Disney is courting
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>>92167890
What a dumb fucking question

>HEY PABLO I FORGOT DA LINES OF DAT SCENE WITH "LUKE IM YOU YOUR FATHER XD" PLEASE HELPS
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>>92168172
http://desuarchive.org/co/thread/91448511/#q91454410
Here you go.
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I don't understand why people were all bent out of shape about Rogue One being about the Death Star plans. Kyle Katarn took them in what was basically the tutorial level of Dark Forces. Which focused mainly on the Arc Hammer and the Dark Troopers. Also in Legends the Alliance was sent literally dozens of copies of the plans.
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>>92168280
There is no scene in any Star Wars movie where someone says "Luke, I'm your father".
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>>92168440
The EU is no longer canon.
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>>92168317
thanks family
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>>92168451
whooooooosh
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>>92168440
The only people who were bent out of shape were assmad EUtists
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>>92168504
>someone mentions EU
>REEEEEEE NOT CANON
It's like you didn't even read the post you replied to.
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>>92168556
I'm an assmad EUtist and I fucking love Rouge One, because it delivered a better story then any alterntives.
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>>92168602
>I'm an assmad EUtist
>I fucking love Rouge One

Sorry, but you can't be both. A proper assmad EUtist hates all SW content created after 2014 by default. Otherwise you're a (possibly) reasonable person who judges content by quality rather than by canonicity.
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>>92168630
Well, what if I say, that Ashoka is shit and TCW ruined Barriss and Maul?
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>>92168524
Sure.
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>>92168660
>TCW ruined Barriss

What was there to ruin? The only thing she was known for before was standing in the background of a couple of scenes in AotC.
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>>92168678
>he doesn't realize that this rage comic is about himself
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>>92168712
Look up Medstar.
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>>92168763
One of the other novels also puts Bariss as a similar age to Anakin, which makes her quite a bit older than Ahsoka, who they match her up with age and experience wise.
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>>92168759
Except I wasn't trying to actually troll anyone, just pointing out the error made in the post that is attempting to make fun of someone else that had pablo respond to their question.
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>>92168837
That was literally the point of that post you dumbass. Did you miss the all caps or the intentional typos or the XD too?
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>>92168660
>A perfectly good character is shit because you say so
>two characters that had literally no canon personality until TCW are "ruined"

Yep, EUfag. At least you admit it though.
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>>92168837
>>92168451

I made that mistake on purpose, genius
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>>92168660
>Ahsoka is shit
End this meme, not even /tv/ is this contrarian
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>>92168881
Both Maul and Bariss appeared in quite a bit of media before they were expanded on in TCW.

Maul's is mainly focused on prior to TPM, and Bariss has quite a appearances in Clone Wars media that was released in between Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith.
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>>92168993
I just never liked her, personally. Especially not early on, or on the movie. Made me want to shove rust spoons in my ears every time she said 'MASTER'. Did like TCW though.
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>>92169038
I'm sorry you're an incomplete person who can never know the pleasures of true kino, anon.
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>>92169038
I'm still thinking, that they way the Council treated Anakin, they would have never given him an apprentice.

Nor shoud they.
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>>92169029
I know, that's why I specified Canon personality.

And frankly, from what I read of the EU, Maul wasn't even anything anybody would miss. TCW did wonders for him.

Barris was sacrificed to tell a great story too, one of the best.

So even taking the EU into account, I don't consider either character ruined in the slightest. They ended up getting spotlights in some of the best Star Wars content ever. Better than anybody could have hoped for.
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>>92169114
That thought is wrong, because it was George Lucas' idea, and I think I'll take his word on star wars related things as opposed to an anonymous poster on 4chan with a chip on his shoulder.
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>>92169120
>I know, that's why I specified Canon personality.
Still makes no sense
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>>92169181
What makes no sense?

>>92169114
You realize that Lucas decided Anakin had an apprentice before he even finished Revenge of the Sith, right?

There's even concept art of Ahsoka herself dated before RotS even released.
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>>92169160
Well, you might try making your won conclusions once in a while, based on the evidence presented in the work itself, rather then wait for someone to spoonfeed you an opinion to latch onto.

Also
>it was George Lucas' idea
God damnit, you people, stop saying it as if it means shit.
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>>92141781
>Too old

...to indoctrinate into their cult.
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>>92169181
>it makes no sense that character development occurred
wew lad, now THIS is a /tv/ post
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>>92169298
>God damnit, you people, stop saying it as if it means shit.
>The Creator of Star Wars's ideas, decisions and opinions doesn't mean shit
???
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>>92169298
see
>>92169270

dumb euposter
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>>92169319
It's just an interpretation. The author's interpretation is just one of many. It is not any more valid then that of any regular viewer.
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>>92167440
I picked up Bounty Hunter on sale on PSN. I only rented it a few times when it came out, but God my memories are a lot nicer than the reality.
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>>92169270
>What makes no sense?
At the time of its release TCW was just another part of Legends and as pointed out not the first Legends story to flesh them out.
>>92169306
Now this is /tv/ reading comprehension
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>>92169439
its definitely more valid than a viewers fanfiction contrary to what occurs on screen
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>>92169475
The way I see it, TCW was always the start of a canon reboot, but people just didn't realize it at the time. It contradicted a shit-ton of Legends lore.
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>>92169475
>TCW was just another part of Legends
no it wasn't, but thanks for outing yourself as EUDF
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>>92169489
Well, on screen in Episodes II and III Council didnt trust Anakin and were holding him back because of that. Giving him and apprentice would go against that. All I'm saying is that TCW doesn make sence in this part
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>>92169439
Oh, you're THAT anon from a few months ago.

Mr "Star Wars is for the people, Lucas/Lucasfilm can't decide canon"
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>>92169475
>TCW was just another part of Legends
No it wasn't, and it never was.

Lucas ALWAYS considered TCW canon, and the EU as non-canon. He even told Filoni pre-production to always treat the show as such.

It was Wookieepedia/Leeland/EUtists who tried to cling to the EU being canon, trying to work around all the blatant overhaul of Canon Lucas was doing.

I remember the autistic meltdowns EUfags were having when TCW killed Evan Piell. That should have been the nail in the coffin really, but it took a formal announcement in 2014 for people to shut the fuck up about the EU being canon, despite it all.
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>>92169501
>It contradicted a shit-ton of Legends lore.
Like a lot of other Legends media. Even so, it still remains part of Legends.
>>92169517
Thanks for outing yourself as butthurt
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>>92169565
>ignores TCW because it doesn't fit his anti-ahsoka narrative
ok
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>>92169608
fuck no I'm not butthurt I'm laughing my ass off, this is golden, please continue
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>>92169439
>It's just an interpretation. The author's interpretation is just one of many. It is not any more valid then that of any regular viewer.
Sure, but that's ignoring the entire point of canon.

You can have your own headcanon if you want. Your version of canon can include your friend's fan comic set between ANH and ESB where Luke experiments with gay sex.

But there will always be an official canon, and TCW was always meant to be part of it.
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>>92169608
>Even so, it still remains part of Legends.
Do EUfags actually believe this?
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>>92169565
How do you not see that bringing Ahsoka in only added to this, not detract?

He went through MONTHS of WAR before he got Ahsoka, and losing her only further explains Anakin and the Councils distrust in each other in Revenge of the Sith.

This was Lucas's idea from the very beginning (Although Filoni said that Lucas's original idea was that Ahsoka actually died before RotS)
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I'm 90% certain Ahsoka became a wolf.

>Filoni is obsessed with wolves
>an original concept for Clone Wars had Ahsoka riding a giant wolf
>pic related shows Ahsoka surrounded by a wolf pattern
>Filoni said Ahsoka lives on but not in a form we would expect

It all adds up.
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>>92169565
>>92169742
Also if you actually watch TCW, Yoda makes it clear that he wanted to help Anakin overcome his attachment issues.

Obviously this completely backfires, hence the council backpeddling on him.

I can understand these "Anakin having an apprentice makes no sense!" complaints in 2008-9, but the show is actually wrapped up now, and we have 6 seasons and a treasure trove of BTS with Filoni and Lucas to understand that no, this all actually made perfect sense.

There's nothing in AOTC or ROTS that said Anakin could never have had a Padawan. Especially when the councils distrust in him is a literally plot point in TCW regarding her.
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>>92169832
>That moment when star wars jumped the shark
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>>92169867
The only "jumped-the-shark" moment in Star Wars is Starkiller Base.

Unless we're counting the EU, in which the shark was bungee-jumped off a canyon with a tether 3 meters too long.
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>>92169905
and that was in 1978 with the holiday special, it didn't get any saner from there
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>>92169943
>holiday special

Do people internally in Lucasfilm secretly love the Holiday Special? Why do things from it keep finding their way into canon?
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>>92169832
If you want to give this theory more credibility;

>Malachor and Mortis have near-identical architecture
>Planet void of life somehow has an Owl that was following Ahsoka and watching over her.
>Mortis has Celestial beings, physical manifestations of the Force that took the form of animals

I believe that the Celestial being that was watching over Ahsoka resurrected her, reincarnating her as a wolf, so that she may protect Ezra on Lothal.
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>>92170021
I think its a guilty pleasure / gag / wink, wink, nod nod, type thing.

They don't really love it, but there's a silly nostalgic charm to it so they've been sneaking in little references as a joke, because people "in the know" can read a book and think "Oh no, it's that cooking lady from the holiday special! Curse you Pablo!".

Plus they did their own parody of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=auspu9FfOUg
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>>92170021
It's kinda like an embarrassing thing that happened to you as a teen or a kid. At the time, it was awful, and for a while you were humiliated by it, but now you can look back and see the bright side and laugh.
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>>92165272
That thread was pure gold. /tv/ can be funny when its not forcing memes
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>>92169105
Damn, this image makes me want to cry. The animation is so good.
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>>92141553

R2 is best character though.
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>>92170253
read the filename, you will cry
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>>92165906
That's the point!
We can't have new things because the audience is babies.

The IDEA of something totally original is anathema to seemingly everyone.
People bitched about a story that wasn't just an adaptation of that Thrawn porno.

People bitched It would be exactly like the prequels, a CGI hellscape of joyless, meaningless action.
Now people are literally bitching "If Snoke isn't Plageuis Disney is just wasting our time."
I just fucking saw this.
The lack of commitment to even one fucking hypocrisy is absurd.

I can't fathom being given the impossible task of trying to please everyone in this Canon, non-Canon, EU bullshit CLUSTERFUCK.
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>>92143286
When did Lars free Shami?
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>>92169832
Why a wolf, though? Besides Filoni being an entry-level furry?
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>>92170617
Wolves are his favorite animal and Ahsoka is his daughterfu so it makes sense that he'd connect them.
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Is Star Wars the best possible series for "what if" stories? I'm amazed that there has never been an anthology comic or book series dedicated to what-ifs in the Star Wars universe. It's brimming with potential.
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>>92170854
Star Wars Infinities?
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>>92170854
There's a big "what if" universe called Star Wars Legends
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>>92169475
>>92169501
>>92169605
The fact that TCW occupied it's own unique Canon Tier that took higher priority then everything else in the Expanded Universe should have been a clue that a reboot was inevitable.
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>>92171059
I'm glad canon tiers are a thing of the past. Everything now is either canon or not.
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>>92169832
Ahsoka is possessing the wolf. The wolf is filonis self insert. he wants Ashoka inside him while Sabine and ezra ride him
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>>92171319
I respect Leeland for attempting to use the tiers to create a consistent continuity. You can tell he cared about such a thing for a long time, but the EU was just impossible to mold into a consistent continuity because it was unchecked and rampant for decades.

You can tell that Canon now is what Leeland/LSG always wanted the EU to be. Much more straightforward and consistent.
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>>92171345
I can respect that
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>>92171451
Except for TFA, annoyingly. I don't know if it was Abrams and Bad Robot being given too much creative control in return for getting them to do the project, or just the fact the SG wasn't quite as established as its gotten in the two years since, but that movie is going to be against the grain for the rest of the canon-verse, I can tell you that now
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>>92169105
How large of an impact did your pic have in Anakin's decision that the Jedi were bad?
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>>92171523
Against the grain in what way? It already fits in fine.
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>>92169605
>Evan Piell
who
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>>92172010
The midget goblin dude that died in the citadel.

Was one of the most blatant "EU isn't canon, TCW is replacing it" moments, and the Wook was so butthurt that they refused to update his page for weeks.
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>>92171981
Against the rest of the sequel era I mean
Rian already had to ask JJ to rewrite TFA so R2 came back to life, hence why those scenes felt so tacked on
That and TFA's whole "Dark v Light, Light should win and Dark is bad-wrong that you shouldn't touch" is being increasingly contradicted by the more balanced approaches to the Force that show up in the new canon, and more politically there's an increasing trend of Imperial characters who have first hand experience of the good the Empire can achieve and just want to create a slightly less pointlessly excessive system
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>>92171523
It's so annoying how they'll have to establish the remnants of the New Republic, flesh out the First Order and their backstory, Luke's Jedi acolytes, what happened with them and how the destruction of the following led to Luke embracing his new philosophy all in one movie.

TFA established the new characters, but the setting is tabula rasa. That's putting so much load onto the sequel. ANH drew the worldbuilding very broadly as well, but we got the fundamentals down that TESB then easily expanded upon. TPM did even heavier lifting. TLJ on the other hand has to finish up the homework TFA refused to deliver on time.

Poor Rian Johnson. Fuck JJ's "difficulty" in reviving the franchise, Rian is the one with the hardest job here, having to clean up his mess, both in and out of universe.
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>>92172010
>>92172068
lol this thread

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Talk:Even_Piell/Legends
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>>92172120
there is no way to use the Dark Side in a benevolent way, end this "balanced" usage of the Force meme
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>>92172120
If I could play devils advocate with some of your points;

>Rian already had to ask JJ to rewrite TFA so R2 came back to life, hence why those scenes felt so tacked on
I think mostly Rian wanted R2 to go with Rey to Luke. Not sure about waking him up.

>"Dark v Light, Light should win and Dark is bad-wrong that you shouldn't touch"
This is still canon, and always will be. It's how Lucas created the force. It may not be so black and white, and yes characters like Bendu will show up claiming to be in the middle. But you're never going to see Jedi using force Lightning, because yes, the dark side is inherently a bad and corruptible thing. On a meta level, it's literally a metaphor for such selfish and greedy things.

>politically there's an increasing trend of Imperial characters who have first hand experience of the good the Empire can achieve
The Empire, yes. First Order on the other hand is bred from the ground up to be evil, on a crusade against the Galaxy.

There's much less room for Imperials who disagree with violence and slavery and "just want the Empire to do the right thing".

That being said, I do agree with you that Lucasfilm don't seem to be happy with TFA, and that TFA has left a wound that they're having to heal and work around to fix.
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>>92172227
>Since when did Dave Filoni have permission to kill of Even Piell??
Lost my shit at the first sentence, this is gonna be good
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>>92172242
but dude grey jedi lmao
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>>92172227
mfw I was just reading that and was about to post about ti
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>>92172170
JJ's problem wasn't reviving the franchise, it was cutting it up to put into his beloved mystery shit boxes and only then trying to revive it
>>92172227
Damn that's some good salt. Its kind of amusing that none of those guys could see the writing on the wall even after Lucas and Filoni had already square danced over any possibility of TCW adhering to previously established canon
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>>92172227
>Since when did Dave Filoni have permission to kill of Even Piell??
>[...] the large chunk of canon that TCW is ATTEMPTING to deem non-canon
>[...] the earlier material must take precedence
>he appears in "Jedi Twilight", which CORRECTLY portrays his death
>We cannot adhere to this bogus attempt to destroy canon
>(I realize that its not just Filoni, but I'd rather blame him)

Can we harness this autism?
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>>92172410
If we could, it would make a fine addition to our super weapon collection.
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>>92172227
>Reading those user pages
>Inactive user
>Last Article Edit 2014
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>>92172476
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>>92172242
I didn't say "benevolent", I just said "more balanced". There was literally an entire episode of TCW where Yoda had to confront his inner suppressed darkness and overcome it in order to learn how to become a Force Ghost. That's what I'm talking about, Light sided Force users confronting and accepting the darkness inside of them, coming to terms with their emotions instead of just ignoring them
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It's bad enough you guys have made Star Wars threads on /co/ unbrowsable, but did you guys have to let your shit seep into /toy/ as well?

Goddamn.
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>>92172541
Yoda was also the first to do this because the Jedi by their very belief system, suppress and ignore their emotions.

Yoda was having to himself, unlearn what he had learned. But by this point, it was too late.

I was hoping that Luke would take such information and build a better Jedi Order that would learn from the mistakes of Yoda's order, buuuuuut

>>92172601
The fuck are you talking about? Don't bring your drama here, this thread is pretty fine right now.
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>>92172227
>Everyone here understands the canon system. What we don't understand is why George Lucas, Dave Filoni, Leland Chee, etc., continually ignore preexisting canon in order to substitute their own

>why is George Lucas ignoring pre-existing Star Wars canon to create his own Star Wars canon

oh this is delicious
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>>92172601
I stopped going to /toy/s starwars threads when they refused to talk about micro machines or titaniums or any sort of vehicle, its all about hotglueing japanese action figures to them
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>>92172227
>the earlier material must take precedence

What kind of sense does that make?
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>>92172638
Well, to use Mark's own words, Luke is a bit of a dropout when it comes to Jedi training. It doesn't help that both his masters had learned that technique but never really walked him through it(what with being more concerned about turning into a patricidal assassin and all), so he was stuck with recovered Jedi texts and holocrons full of teachings even his Masters had already unlearned by the time he found them.
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>>92172703
It doesn't

Just lunacy stemmed from nostalgia-fueled bias.
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>>92172755
more often than not its not even nostalgia, its outright derision and hatred for star wars as it was, and a desperate desire to turn it into something it was never meant to be

all too often the EUfag is a far worse "fake star wars fan" than the ot purist
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>>92172686
>hotglueing japanese action figures to them
So, you're saying I should hit up /toy/ when that Aphra figure comes out?
Good to know, thanks anon
>>92172703
If you assume a logical, consistent canon, it does make a degree of sense, old works should at least be respected even if they're being retconned
The bugger is the old EU was neither logically or consistently constructed and curated by anyone, so Lucas' approach of just stomping around not giving a fuck was probably the best course of action, short of declaring the whole mess non-canon as they eventually did anyway
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>>92165567
>>92165754
That line is his first line in the movie. You can take that to the bank
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Why is the Wook so megalomaniacal, acting like they are the end all, be all of Star Wars info on the Internet? I wasn't here when this happened but apparently they shut down /swco/'s attempt to make their own Star Wars wiki, is that true?
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>>92172929
It's true, and that's what happens when a bunch of autists get together to circlejerk over fanfiction.
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>>92172827
>old works should at least be respected even if they're being retconned
Anybody who actually gave TCW a chance, as well as enjoyed the EU will know that there was a huge, HUGE amount of respect for what came first. The amount of EU stuff that is actually still canon thanks to Filoni and Lucas is staggering.

Lucas actually cared a lot about pleasing EU fans. He would get Filoni to show him comics relevant to the stories he was telling, to see what could work and what wouldn't

But something newer, and directly from Lucas himself is obviously going to take precedence when deciding canon. It's ridiculous to think that old books and comics should take precedence over Lucas's own Star Wars show just because they came first.

And this was of course assuming that the EU had to be considered canon along with TCW, which to Lucas, and now Lucasfilm, it didn't.
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>>92172955
Yup just look at this thread on most days.
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>>92172929
>/swco/'s attempt to make their own Star Wars wiki, is that true?
What would it have been about? 1d4chan for SW?
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This Even Peill situation is like proving to someone WWE is fake.
Some already knew that but they still enjoy it, others don't take it so well and it up spilling their spaghetti over it.
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>>92172929
That is true.

They were very passive aggressive about it, and then took the first chance they could to have it shut down, under a bullshit copywrite claim.

Looking at Wookieepedia now, they don't seem to be AS bad as they were.

They used to refuse to update canon articles, and for the longest fucking time, wookieepedia was defaulted to Legends.

Now from what I can tell, there are people just as dedicated to updating Canon pages as they used to be for Legends.

But it's still effectively a community full of autists that are heavily biased towards the EU (somewhat understandably considering for 10 years, that was the main focus of the website)

Obviously you're going to get the crazies. I just got reminded of that guy who was editing like 90 fucking pages a day for 2 years straight before he got permabanned for shitposting.
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>>92172929
It's because they're one of the most concentrated places of fanboy autism on the net. They're extremely diligent and do a pretty good job at keeping things updated.

HOWEVER, that power has gotten to their heads. They effectively became the ultimate source for SW continuiuty, so they embraced that identity.

This was most apparent after the canon wipe in 2014. That happened in April 2014, I believe, but it took until literally ONE WEEK before TFA came out (Dec 2015) for them to finally admit that canon pages should be default. It was going to be wookieepedia.com/yoda and wookieepedia.com/yoda/canon.
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>>92173008
Back when Wookieepedia was refusing to adjust to the new canon, some used from these threads decided to make a canon-only wiki.

It was met with hostility, and Wiki/Wookiee-Admin Brandon Rhee encouraging us to just join Wookieepedia instead.

We refused, and with permission, used the timeline they had to start making pages.

However, despite nothing but a few pages for the movies and their release dates, the wiki was shut down for "stealing pages", with Brandon promising us that Wookieepedia would transition to prioritizing Canon stuff sometime within a year.
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>>92169863
>wants him to overcome attachment issues
>gives him a cute sidekick

in what world does it make sence?
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>>92173086
>They used to refuse to update canon articles
They still won't let you copy info from a legends article into a canon one. They claim that you're basically stealing their IP, even though you're just using it internally.
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>>92173161
From what I heard they tried to make the new wiki on ... wikia. If they used another wiki farm, they might gotten somewhere.
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>>92173244
I don't see why that would be a problem, though. It's not like wikia actually owns any IP for Star Wars.
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Who is the worst KOTOR companion, /swco/?
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>>92173290
Carth
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>>92173290
>le snarky memebot
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>>92172929
They're not. Most those users are inactive. They've been grooving with new canon. I've had zero problems editing articles. But there is a lot of work to do.
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Why do even need canon? It is just a formality anyway. All that shit you guys are arguing over will change in the next couple of years.

And, at the end of the day, who really gives a fuck what is canon and what is not? You can like what you like for whatever reason that you have. Just dont judge people for liking something that you hate. Or hating something that you love. That's just plain stupid.
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>>92173172
Its a thing all Jedi go through to overcome attachment.

It's most clear in the season 2 episode where Ahsoka/Barriss are presumed dead. Luminara tells Anakin that they must accept it and not be attachment, but Anakin starts having emotional outbursts.

Then in season 3, Padawan Lost, Ahsoka is separated from Anakin, and Anakin has to trust that she will be okay without him. When Ahsoka returns safely, Yoda at this point is very happy with how things are progressing as Anakin DOES seem to slowly be overcoming his attachment issues, as all Jedi must. He's still emotional, but he understood that Ahsoka was coming of age herself, and that she can make it without him, and that he doesn't need to go into a meltdown over her.

However it all falls apart in season 5 where Ahsoka is framed for murder and the council turns their backs on her. TBQH I don't blame Anakin, the council were assholes. Also I'd be pissed if I lost those delicious buttcheeks too.

>>92173279
>>92173244
Possibly. Brandon Rhee was an admin on both wiki and wookieepedia, so if they wanted a Star Wars wikia shut down, all he had to do was snap his fingers.

That's why he was suggesting to just join Wookieepedia instead
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>>92173290
T3-M4 is the most boring.

Mission is 14, what the fuck is she doing being brought into literal war zones?
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>>92172638
>The fuck are you talking about?

This
>Because Kathleen Kennedy and Disney are SJW feminists pushing an agenda. And also because when George Lucas included diversity, it was in the form of aliens based on racial caricatures like Nien Nunb (Mexican), Watto (Jew/Gypsy), and Nute Gunray (Chinese).

is obviously one of you.
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>>92173343
>a father catches a son smoking
>locks him in a shed with a pack of sigs and refuses to let him unt untill he smokes them all
>kid gets addicted to smoking

thats the same kind of logic.
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>>92173206
This is a common misconception and I'm a bit tired of hearing about. No Wiki likes to copy paste articles. It's lazy and unprofessional. Have you read some of the articles? Filled with typos, bad grammar and a host of other problems. It's better to make a new article from scratch.
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>>92138161
I like him , and I like his backstory as well. He seems like a cool rival for Luke to (hopefully) over come. If he lives until episode 6 it would be interesting to see a more experienced luke fight him
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>>92173338
Because continuity is very important in storytelling and worldbuilding. As a fan of a science fiction franchise, it's surprising to me that you can't see how it's important, or appreciate it.

Even the EU was at its best when there was some semblance of continuity.

Also;
>All that shit you guys are arguing over will change in the next couple of years.
This is not happening, sorry if this upsets you. EU lasted 30 years basically unchecked, and now we have Lucasfilm dedicated to building canon in Lucas's vision, starting with his movies and cartoon. They're never retconning that stuff, nor what they're building now. Hell, we even have non-Saga movies now, like hell they're going to retcon Rogue One.

Also nobody is saying you cant enjoy the EU, and we're especially not saying you shouldn't like both. The main problem is the EUfanboys who aggressively shit things up and don't let go of their own attachments. The discussion in this thread was specifically regarding such people on Wookieepedia
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>>92173398
>obviously
Anon, /swco/ is very supportive of the Canon media, with the exception of TFA.

Why the hell would you think that's us? That is just a /tv/ shitposter that shits up every Star Wars thread on the site. /co/ and /tg/ included
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>>92173398
>Because Kathleen Kennedy and Disney are SJW feminists pushing an agenda. And also because when George Lucas included diversity, it was in the form of aliens based on racial caricatures like Nien Nunb (Mexican), Watto (Jew/Gypsy), and Nute Gunray (Chinese).
is obviously one of you.
That's clearly /tv/ posting
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>>92173338
>And, at the end of the day, who really gives a fuck what is canon and what is not? You can like what you like for whatever reason that you have. Just dont judge people for liking something that you hate. Or hating something that you love.
You clearly don't understand the purpose of continuity.
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>>92173290
People loved HK-47 but I thought he was annoying as fuck. Especially in KOTOR2 when all he liked was senseless violence. T3 was probably the worst though in 1 since he was useless.
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>>92173524
Didn't realize I had that image open in the reply box
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>>92173398
Just because you see the same shitheads posting here doesn't mean its our fault, it just means the same shit head is flinging the same shit around on different boards
Cunts will be cunts, comes with the territory
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>>92173436
It's the exact same information, though. I agree with you in theory, but there's literally zero problem with copying when there's no difference.

Look at these two articles:

http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/99
http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/99/Legends

That's a character who only appeared in 2 episodes of the TV show. His appearances are the same in canon and legends. His behind the scenes information is obviously the same in both.

As long as all the links are fixed to go to the appropriate canon rather than legends page, what's the harm in copy/pasting?
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>>92173537
>>92173320
Holy fuck I thought I was the only one.

I always get irked when people shit on Aphra's droids, but treat HK like the best character to ever exist.

I don't particularly think HK is that bad, nor Apha's droids. But the praise HK gets utterly dumbfounds me.
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>>92173206
This is the dumbest shit to me when you consider that characters who have only appeared in canon material like Pong Krell have two separate pages. In that particular case, the Legends page is huge whereas the canon page is barebones, even though Legends offers no material that wouldn't be appropriate in a canon article.
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>>92173343
>That's why he was suggesting to just join Wookieepedia instead
>fandom is splitting apart
>one group refusing to move on
>another group threatening to start a new branch
>they beginning copypasting articles
>cant happen
>offer them the chance to become users and reign unmolested
>spit in his face
>surprised wiki gets shut down

It's funny not one person offered to sit down with Rhea to figure out how to fix this situation. You hurled shit until a compromise was impossible. At least things are better now.
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>you will never be this assravaged about Star Wars
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>>92173707
>1976
...but ANH came out in '77.
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>>92173707
How much did that fucking cost? What goes through their minds when they did this?

Did they think it would make Lucasfilm suddenly change their minds?

All this probably did is give Lucasfilm staff a chuckle on the way to work every day.
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>>92173652
I hate Aphra's droids and wish they'd get fucking destroyed already but as bad as they are they aren't half as bad as Coldsteel the Memebot from Star Wars: Worst Game of the Old Republic.

I also hate K2SO too but again hes not as bad as Heckler and Koch 47
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>>92173343
>Possibly. Brandon Rhee was an admin on both wiki and wookieepedia, so if they wanted a Star Wars wikia shut down, all he had to do was snap his fingers.
>That's why he was suggesting to just join Wookieepedia instead

When you explain like that it looks more like threat than a friendly offer.

I do have a few wikis at wikia but I'm not blind to the kind of bullshit wikia can and will pull.
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>>92173707
The novelization came out in 1976
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>>92173732
The novelization came out December 1976.
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>>92173751
I think it was 10,000 $.
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>>92173698
We just wanted to do our own thing and be left alone.

Not a single article was copy-pasted without permission. In fact the only one that was IIRC was copy-pasted by the very same guy who wrote the article on the Wook in the first place.

Even if we played nice, we were never going to get our canon wiki.

It was either "Join us", or "We'll delete your shit, and then you join us."

Yeah, I get it, two sides to every story. Either way, I don't believe a better outcome was gonna come from it.
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>>92173751
Who cares, it's endless entertainment for the rest of us and presumably Lucasfilm.
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>>92173475
>>92173528
>it's surprising to me that you can't see how it's important, or appreciate it.
>You clearly don't understand the purpose of continuity.

I appreciated it up untill EU got cancelled. It showed me, just how unimportant canon is, if such a long-lasting franchise can be thrown out of the window just like that. Since then, I prefer to pick and chose what I like.

>>92173475
>This is not happening, sorry if this upsets you.
Nah, it doesnt, I'm just saying. One of the big reasons why EU god dumped is because it became too large and difficult to get into and Disney needed space for their creative projects. How long untill the new canon becomes too big and the right-owners will feel the necessity to clean the house again? I figure, it will be way less then 30 years, since new content for Star Wars is being produced leagus more quickly then it was back in the 70s or in the 90s.
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>>92173757
I will say this for K2, a killer robot that just doesn't have a filter is a much more interesting concept than "I programmed this droid to be a psycho, and now its off peeling Jawas, isn't that funny!?"
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>>92173863
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>>92173905
The difference is that the EU was never considered canon by Lucas or Lucasfilm, and the new stuff is. The EU contradicted itself more than anything.

You really think Rogue One, Rebels, and the media surrounding them is just going to be dropped one day? That's delusional. There's not going to be a damn reboot. There wasn't even one in the first place. 1-6/TCW stayed canon because that was all that was canon at all in 2014.
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>>92173698
>>92173830
This made me realize that warring factions and dirty tricks played by separate groups of people trying to make a wiki about story material in a space fantasy franchise is just about the nerdiest shit mankind is capable of.
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>>92173971
Based Pablo
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>>92173905
>I appreciated it up untill EU got cancelled.
sour grapes confirmed

>It showed me, just how unimportant canon is, if such a long-lasting franchise can be thrown out of the window just like that.
it was never canon

>Since then, I prefer to pick and chose what I like.
don't take it too personally then when people don't give a fuck about your headcanon

>since new content for Star Wars is being produced leagus more quickly then it was back in the 70s or in the 90s
there was virtually no extraneous content UNTIL the 90s when it exploded thanks to Heir to the Empire
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>>92173971
Pablo truly is a blessing.
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>>92174021
Shit you're right
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>>92173777
>>92173794
Fair enough. I still think it's crazy that novelizations used to come out before movies. Pre-internet times were weird.
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>>92173905
It wasn't a matter of how big it got, it was how sprawling, gnarled and full of contradictions it became as time went on. The new canon is being curated and managed from the very start to prevent that issue
Besides, content is being produced any faster for the new canon, its just being produced more consistently. Canon is being drip fed back into the Star Wars universe, rather than emerging in fits and starts.
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>>92173637
>His appearances are the same in canon and legends.

>http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/99
>Star Wars: The Clone Wars – "Clone Cadets" (First appearance)
>Star Wars: The Clone Wars – "ARC Troopers"
>Star Wars: The Clone Wars – "The Bad Batch" (Indirect mention only)

>http://starwars.wikia.com/wiki/99/Legends
>Star Wars: The Clone Wars – "Clone Cadets" (First appearance)
>The Clone Wars: Defenders of the Republic
>Star Wars: The Clone Wars – "ARC Troopers"
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>>92173905
>I appreciated it up untill EU got cancelled. It showed me, just how unimportant canon is, if such a long-lasting franchise can be thrown out of the window just like that. Since then, I prefer to pick and chose what I like.
You realize all that shit still exists, right?

It's literally no different than when any other franchise gets rebooted.
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>>92174104
I remember the first half of the ROTS comic adaptation came out before the movie, up until Greivous was killed.

I read it being blown away and effectively having half the movie spoiled.

My friends dad saw us reading it the day we were going to see the movie, freaking out and snatching it away from us.

Thankfully Mustafar/Order 66 wasn't spoiled for us, and me and my friend got to experience that terror at its fullest
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I see more people complain about EUfags than EUfags actually complaining.
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>>92174104
One of the weirdest things that still trips me up is the radio dramatization A) fucking exists, what the fuck and B) contains a deleted scene of Leia's reaction to Alderaan's destruction that has a really great line towards Tarkin ("you're at war with life itself!") and lets Leia actually react to the loss of her homeworld, friends and father in a way ANH kind of doesn't
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>>92173905
>One of the big reasons why EU god dumped is because it became too large and difficult to get into and Disney needed space for their creative projects
More importantly, there was no sort of central control. THAT is the big issue. Now they can plan things out and tie in stuff between different media, which was never done before.

Before, it was just a random assortment of writers making shit up, and occasionally someone else would reference it.
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>>92174228
I don't. We always get EUfags bitching about something or other.

Hell, earlier in this very thread is an anon admitting to being a "raging EUfag"

If people are venting about EUfags, then its obviously for a reason anon.

Although frankly this discussion has gotten tiring and I hope next thread is more fun.
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>>92173510
Remove Rey from Force Awakens and more Poe and Finn doing adventures and I'll gladly support TFA.
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>>92174228
The EUfags are extinct, their fire has gone out of the universe. You, my friend, are all that's left of their religion.
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>>92173616
/toy/ is currently in meltdown because of the news that Dr. Aphra is getting a figure. Now it's just a bunch of 'sjw' this and 'tumblr' that, all of which are not posts common to /toy/

You mostly see that shit on /co/. So yes, it's partly your fault for fostering this type of bullshit.
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>>92174231
Why wouldn't it still exist?
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>>92174290
I feel like this thread isn't unified. Like there are two sides of a bigger picture that we are looking at.
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>>92174298
/swco/ likes Aphra though. You're full of shit.
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>>92174340
No we don't...
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>>92174298
That's not common to /co/ at all. That sounds like /tv/, who bring that shitposting wherever they go.

Other boards accuse /co/ of being tumblr which may be true for the rest of /co/, but these threads seem to be full of right-leaning "Empire isn't all bad" types.

PS. Fuck /toy/, can't wait to have Aphra on my shelf.
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>>92174294
Will you at least agree that Star Wars: Bounty Hunter and some of the Medstar books are OK?
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>>92174290
>Although frankly this discussion has gotten tiring and I hope next thread is more fun.
Careful what you wish for. There's a good chance next thread could be full of PT vs OT or god forbid nothing but waifu shit.
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>>92174008
>>92174028
>>92174116
If EU was never canon, what's with the whole system of canon-tiers?

Besides, the canon was maintained back then as well. Before Pablo, we used to have Chee.
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>>92174310
It's more just the idea that someone made radio dramas out of Star Wars, its just weird to me. It doesn't seem the kind of thing that would translate well to radio
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>>92174340
I don't like people adding things to the Original Trilogy stuff so not really.
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anyone have clone wars download links?
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>>92174328
What if there is a supreme shitposter pulling strings on both sides?
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>>92174362
Here's the thing, almost no one who likes canon thinks all of the EU was shitty. Most people actually read the EU back in the day.

It's the EU fans who wholesale shit on nuCanon as if it's one single unit of quality.
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>>92174367
Autism in action. Bur really it was an attempt make the EU novels work within the movie canon.
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>>92174349
I do.
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>>92173652
Once you get Force Powers and a Lightsaber, he's pretty useless outside that one Tatooine quest. His builds and abilties were terrible. He was only good for his smartass comments but he was rubbish. God forbid you act polite in 2, you would lose influence.

>PC: Hello
>-25 influence from HK-47
>morrigan disapproves
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>>92174367
We still have Chee.

Anyways, the canon tiers were created by Chee on the tail-end of the EU's lifespan to appease everybody because (surprise, surprise) nerds like interconnected continuity.

However Lucas and Lucasfilm didn't agree that the EU fit properly, so they're building a seamlessly canon from scratch.

Canon today is what Chee (and Star Wars fans) always wanted the EU to be.
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>>92174362
There are plenty of things I liked in the old EU (anything to do with Jango Fett was one of them) but I am glad it's no longer canon. I much prefer the crap with a glimmer of hope we've got now to the unending shitfest of no hope in which everything constantly goes south of the EU. Fuck Legacy. Fuck NJO. Fuck Vong.
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>>92174340
By /swco/ you mean 2 or 3 really vocal waifufags, right?
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>>92174401
Shit maybe the Last Jedi is going to be better than I thought.
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>>92174367
We still have Chee, for what it's worth.

The difference is all of that was 100% reactionary. The canon tiers were invented later on because fans wanted a way to organize it. The tiers were deliberately set up as a way to account for inconsistencies, not prevent them.

Now, we have the storygroup keeping things straight BEFORE it happens.
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>>92174357
>That's not common to /co/ at all.

Quick question, do you browse /co/ at all outside this general?
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>>92174328
You mean to tell me a website visited by millions of people across the world isn't unified? That's shocking.
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>>92174362
I actually really like the concept of Bounty Hunter, and I am hoping some of the elements of that game find their way into Viscerals upcoming game.

Also, what the other guys said. Even if you support canon 100% (like I do), that doesn't mean we hate the EU.

Most of us read some Legends stuff, or at least played the vidya.
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>>92174506
Not really much anymore.

Got sick of how shitty the state of comics is
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>>92174463
OK here's my piece. I am in EUfag in the changing stuff during the Prequels stuff, not during or after the Original Trilogy.

I think more stories about the Clone Wars is a good way to go. However there is some new changes that I don't like.
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>>92174349
Opinion is divided on Aphra. Some people dislike her intensely, some people love her, but by far and away the most common reaction I've seen is "she's OK, I guess?"
>>92174357
You say that about tumblr, but I've seen a lot of Empire supporters on there. Their a minority but a pretty damn sizable one. Less Empire apologists and more "its the Republics own damn fault" but its very much there
>>92174367
It WAS all canon, and the curation extended as far as the attempt to define canon tiers so as to try and tidy up blatant contradictions into lower canon tiers
Chee made an admirable effort of it, but he was fighting an uphill battle from the start. There was no way he would ever have hammered a coherent vision of Star Wars from the old EU
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>>92174547
So you actually wouldn't know.
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>>92174526
If I could change anything about canon it would be that instead of Jango killing Zam Wessel, she goes and takes Boba under her wing after Jango dies.
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>>92174593
>Opinion is divided on Aphra. Some people dislike her intensely, some people love her, but by far and away the most common reaction I've seen is "she's OK, I guess?"

I mean, I guess that's basically all the options when it comes to how people feel about something.
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>>92174593
>It WAS all canon
It was only "canon" in that it existed and was there if any other writer wanted to reference it. It was a quantum state of everything is canon, but nothing is.
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>>92174623
Aurra Sing filled that role pretty nicely though.

She did in the EU too

>that TCW episode where Hondo implies he fucked Aurra and asks if Boba was his kid
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>>92174367
Are you forgetting Lucas considered the EU an alternative universe? Remember how often it contradicted itself? At some point, Chee had to make some sort of system because it was getting ridiculous. TPM and AOTC opened the door for a lot of shit fans didnt expect.

>Before Pablo, we used to have Chee.
And he was and still is garbage. On the wook we use to consider him almost worthless. He tried to please everyone and that never works out.
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>>92174664
Yeah, but that's terrible because Zam is better.
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>>92174028
>don't take it too personally then when people don't give a fuck about your headcanon
I'm not. I'm just saying people probably should not care about the actual canon either.
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>>92174656
>It was a quantum state of everything is canon, but nothing is.
Schrödingers cannonicity
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>>92174664
>>92174696
Yea I like Zam better, it would make more sense for Zam to hang out with Boba given the history with his father.

Besides, Aurra looks weird.
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>>92174666
>TPM and AOTC opened the door for a lot of shit fans didnt expect.
I think a lot of people today don't appreciate or realize the complete and utter bombshell that was revealing the Clones in "the Clone Wars" were the good guys.

Everyone assumed from Obi-Wan's dialogue that the Clones were evil, which makes sense considering we never see any Clones in the OT. (Except Boba and Rex, and the head-bump trooper, but those were all retroactive)

So then Lucas reveals that the Clones were actually proto-stormies AND the good guys. Shook everything on its head
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>>92174547
>>92174357
>That's not common to /co/ at all.

Did you even look at the front page?
>>92171389

It seems all /co/ does now is complain about tumblr.
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>>92174696
this desu

>>92174593
>it WAS all canon
No, it wasn't, get this through your thick skull. No part of the EU was EVER considered canon by Lucasfilm or Lucas himself. It was ALWAYS fanfiction.
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>>92174763
Better than BEING tumblr like everyone accuses us of, I guess?
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>>92174740

>wait Boba Fett isn't really Jaster Mereel, a Journeyman Protector from Concord Dawn?

why do I remember this
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Personally, I hate that Zam died at all. She's easily one of the most interesting bounty hunters.
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>>92174666
>And he was and still is garbage. On the wook we use to consider him almost worthless. He tried to please everyone and that never works out.
He had a literally impossible job. No one could have done it better, idk why the wook hates him so much.
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>>92174713
>people shouldn't care about new upcoming entertainment because they might get burned like you did
wew, now THAT is sour grapes

>>92174720
>>92174656
lel that's a good way of putting it

>>92174740
technically they wound up being the bad guys inadvertently, but that's just a certain point of view
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This was a fun thread, honestly. But please no EU debating or Wookposting next thread.

We should take advantage of everyone being mostly civil this thread, and talk about something more interesting instead
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>>92174780
No, it's not you faggot.
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>>92174766
And yet it was officially organized into a canon system.
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The way I see it...

EU is the old Republic pre-CW: bloated. decadent, barely functioning, but fun, colorful and ripe with all kinds of amazing possibilities.

nuCanon is the Empire: orderly, structured, well-planned out but cold, bland-looking, rigid and restrictive.
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>>92174864

in b4 a rented billboard
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>>92174885
>officially
no it wasn't
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>>92174506
I only come to this general. /tv/ is my main board. Not a comic fan even though I'm sitting next to a shelf filled with them.
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>>92174833
I think Lucasfilm regret it too, considering they created a replacement shapeshifting Bounty Hunter for TCW.

That being said, while on this topic, I read a Legends Zam comic once and it sucked ass. Was practically given it for free and it still wasn't worth my time. If they do a canon comic for her, I hope it's more exciting.
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>>92174861
It's not what I wrote. Go, read it again, then come back with a proper answer.
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>>92174864
This. EU posters need to stop ruining the thread. Goddamn, I wish the mods would ban it already. Your canon is dead and you need to get over it already.
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>>92174888
>fun, colorful and ripe with all kinds of amazing possibilities.
that doesn't describe the EU at all
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>>92174888
I would agree, except I don't think Canon is bland or cold at all. It's just sprouting like a little flower :3
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>>92174906
No one was asking you.
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>>92174833
>be the best bounty hunter around
>get hired to kill a senator
>outsource the job to a shapeshifter
>she doesn't use those abilities to get close to the senator
>she fucks up the whole thing
>kill her so she doesn't blow your cover
>don't fire on the jedi standing next to her
>don't kill the senator while her protectors are distracted

Still my least favorite part AOTC.
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>>92174943
well, I guess you werent into Star Wars back then, were you?
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>>92174833
This. She is way better than most of the hunters from the cartoon.
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>>92174942
Why is it so unacceptable here to enjoy both canon and legends?
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>>92174987
No, I just jumped on with the nucanon. Why does it matter?
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>>92174974
I'm starting to think that Jango wasn't hired to kill Padme, but to try to create a trail for the Jedi to follow so Sidious could get his war.
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>>92174974
>Kill either Anakin or Obi while they are distracted with Zam with a quick blaster bolt to the back of the head

Come on Jango.
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>>92174987
I've loved Star Wars since I was first introduced to it on vhs when I was 4 years old and nothing soured me worse on the EU than the endless fucking
>new republic gets btfo by imperial
remnant/sith/whatever
If you can defend Yuuzhan Vong and Darth Krayt you don't deserve to call yourself a Star Wars fan.
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>>92174888
The way you see it is through a TERRIBLE metaphor
Star Wars has never known greater possibility, there has never been a better time for authors, artists and directors to make their mark on Star Wars (for better or for worse, so far its skewed for the better though)
The old EU was a bloated mess, but it was choking the life out of itself. Even Dark Horse and its attempts to find new ground by racing millennia into Star Wars' distant past only barely freed themselves
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>>92175009
It's not that you can't, it's that they are so assblasted that they have to talk about how much BETTER and COOLER their canon was, while typing 'squeak squeak' to anyone who even DARE like anything post the EU decanonification

shitposting all 'round
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I miss her. How do we retcon her death away?
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Dont reply to the falseflagger, for fuck sakes, he's just trying to stir shit up again.
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>>92175079
She's dead son.

Accept it.
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>>92174839
>idk why the wook hates him so much.
>oh this obscure piece is still canon
>but it contradicts this piece
>oh its low on the canon list but it still happened
>it says a jedi survived but he was decapitated
>he grew his HEAD back!

That's the kind of shit Chee still does. See Ultimate and everythingyouneed to know. All he should've said is this never happened and ignore it but he didnt want to piss fans off.
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>>92174962
Maybe I don't understand something.
People around here drive themselves crazy about that Rebels cartoon.
And when I look at it, I see the safest, blandest most vanilla SW content I've ever seen. You are still allowed to live it though, go nuts.
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>>92175009
Because the EU was fucking stupid and made Star Wars into a joke among fandoms.

Now we can finally be taken seriously and all you faggots want to talk about is your fucking sun crushers and vong or whatever it is? Fuck you.
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>>92175079
RETCON BOTH THEIR DEATHS AWAY ITS NOT FAIR REEEEEEEEEEE
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>>92175115
Next thread be dedicated to Zam, just this once.
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>>92175112
lol
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>>92158758
You would think given Obi-Wan's own experience and his education under Qui-Gon Jin that he might understand Huttese.
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>>92175033
I think that was the intention, considered how Jango rather violently planted the Kaminoan saber dart on Zam right in front of the Jedi
It still feels odd to outsource it through the shapeshifter though. There had already been an attempt on Padme's life through the bombing at the start, why not continue the trend and just shoot one of Padme's body doubles or one of her security detail with the dart to leave the evidence? Introducing the second assassin and the millipedes just puts more variables into play that you can't control or predict
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>>92175109
People will go on and on about how the EU is trash but insult Rebels oh no you stepped to the wrong faggot.
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>>92175143
and be sure to make this the op

>>92175109
>I see the safest, blandest most vanilla SW content I've ever seen
Because you haven't grown up, but don't worry, there's still time to remove the cancerous growth that causes you to dislike Rebels.

Start by repeating after me:
Game of Thrones is trash.
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>>92174888
>cold, bland-looking, rigid and restrictive.
Have you read the Han Solo, Vader, Aphra, Main SW comics? There's a lot of fantastical and straight up weird material. Talking mountains, whale ships, different dimensional beings...talking corpses...
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>>92175200
That's because Rebuls is actually really good.
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>>92175055
Kinda why I hate the Force Awakens.
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>>92175209
None of it is new though and the comics aren't very good.

What's your point?
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>>92174969
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>>92175079
Why the fuck does she always appear as a human that she likely used as a disguise once in her entire life?
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>>92175157
For a second there I thought that armband said "/sug/" and I got very confused
And yes, Gray Jedi are a dumb idea. I think that gets brought up more often than the idea of Grey Jedi in general to be honest
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>>92175013
Well I guess, you can't understand people who love EU. While most people who were SW fans back then can understand the newcomers.

>>92175055
Arent you going a bit over the top with it?
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>>92175055
>nothing soured me worse on the EU than the endless fucking new republic gets btfo by imperial remnant/sith/whatever

I know, right? Fuck the EU. Glad it's dead. Can you imagine if they made a movie based on that premise? Holy shit.

Oh wait.
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What pissed off OT purists more: Yoda using a lightsaber, or Palpatine using a lightsaber?
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>>92174974
>>92175045
Again, this is like bitching the bad guy in a James Bond never kills him just gloats. Jesus christ, its not meant to make sense when you think about it. Its suppose to lead into a chase scene.

Its a movie folks!
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>>92175089
>there can possibly be only one guy who disagrees with me, because I cant be wrong
>there is no way the fandom has groups within groups with significant differences in opinions
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>>92175254
I understand you people only like it because of nostalgia. I've read wikis on some of this garbage and I can't believe you people defend it.

Luke getting married? Leia becoming a Jedi? Fucking fanfic shit.
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>>92175292
Yoda. Papa Sheev has his based spin attack and it's a great scene
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>>92175292
Yoda, in the Original Trilogy he makes it sound like the lightsaber isn't that big a deal when you have the force.

Sheev using a lightsaber is the best part of the movie.
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>>92175289
30 years of peace followed by conflict enabling a hero's journey vs 0 seconds of peace followed by the entire universe being destroyed over and over again

really makes you think
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>>92175334
If you can defend the First Order and Supreme Leader Snoke you don't deserve to call yourself a Star Wars fan.
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>>92175241
That its not bland and cold.

Are you pretending to be an asshole?
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>>92175358
But all of the things you described appeared in better comics in the past.

How is ripping them off not bland and cold?
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Fangirls are cancer

http://archiveofourown.org/tags/Bodhi%20Rook*s*Luke%20Skywalker/works
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>>92175292
My theater was filled with unbelievable hype when that happened.
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>>92175318
>I've read wikis
That's your mistake, pal. There's a difference between reading a book or a comic book and reading a recap of the events described in a detached and dispassionate fashion.
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>>92175391
I saw Bodhi and I thought Point Break. Thanks for getting me excited.
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>>92175383
>But all of the things you described appeared in better comics in the past.
Subjective interpretation does not equal facts, anon.

>How is ripping them off[...]
Can you provide a citation for this?
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>>92175397
Idiots tend to overlook how well recieved the Yoda fight at the end of AoTC was by critics, even if the rest of the movie might have left them cold.
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>>92175397
Everyone was. No one hated these things when the movies first came out. It really only came years later after people started paying attention to incredibly anal internet autists.

I loved The Phantom Menace when I first saw it in theaters, but that's because it was meant to be a kids movie and I was fucking 10 years old when it came out.
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We should put our funds together and buy a /swco/ billboard.
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>>92175289
The new trilogy is based on a Imperial successor state reigniting the war after thirty years of peace for the New Republic
In the old EU, it was thirty years of constant never ending conflict between one group or another, be it a civil war within what remained of the Empire, Thrawn's arrival, one of the Imperial Remnants attacking, a civil war within the Republic, Thrawn's clone attacking, or the walking entities of bullshit power creep that were the Vong
The Sequel Trilogy had the decency to let the galaxy know some peace for decades, which is more than ever could be said for the old EU
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>>92143168
Possibly. Knowing how crafty he was and how good he was at racing, he probably would have found a way to free himself and his mother, and then he could live happily with her on some other planet away from Tatooine.
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>>92175206
>cant appreciate a cartoon made for minors
>havent grown up yet

am I on bizarro /swco/ all of a sudden?
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>>92175480
>buy out the billboard next to Lucasfilm
>"what is she?"
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>>92175292
OT purist here. Yoda is more ridiculous than the Sheev...

...but put them together, and it becomes pure cinematic kino.
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>>92175467
Most of the critical reviews I read about AOTC was that it was better than TPM because it wasn't boring, no Jar Jar and didnt get lost. The thing they slammed it most for was the romance. But they liked the effects and action. Jedi Outcast mods and Battlegrounds expansion brought maximum hype
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>>92175480
What would it say? What message would we want LucasFilm employees to chuckle at before ignoring on their ride into work?
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>>92175532
I second this
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>>92175480
>that one picture of not andi

you know the one
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>>92175494
So basically you're butthurt because a series named Star WARS didn't have any peace?
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>>92175532
OK at first I didn't want to let anybody have my money but I am immediately on board. One moment I'm going to look up advertisement agencies and locations near where Lucasfilm is.
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>>92175525
>“Critics who treat 'adult' as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up.”

> -C.S. Lewis
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>>92175565
maybe some people want a happy ending in their entertainment instead of grim darkness
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>>92175614
>happy ending
You didn't see TFA then
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>>92175583
Fuck, I'm down. Lemme know what you find and how much renting it might cost so I could set up an IndieGoGo page or something.

Might have to ask /pol/ how we organize this sort of ruse cruise.
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>>92175584
How does it relate to the fact, that Rebels seems safe, bland and vanilla though you are still allowed to love it, go nuts?
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>>92175583
OK I'm not seeing a lot of Billboards, Lucas Film is kinda in a residential area. Hold on I'm looking at the other part of the map.
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>>92175672
He did though. He said he loved it even though it refutes his entire point about why he hates the EU.
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>>92175565
I'm saying I was perpetually amazed there were enough people to keep fucking dying in these constant wars. It says something when a sci-fi franchise with the tagline "There is Only War" had longer periods of relative peace than ever seem to exist in Star Wars lore.
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>>92175701
I'm having a lot of trouble finding a billboard, hey any San Franciscofags here?
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Do you guys think, that after years of world-wide prequel mockery, SW fans have developed a persecution complex, that we react this violently to the slightest critique, even from those who are ultimately shares our love of SW?
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>>92175708
Never said anything about loving it (I enjoyed it plenty but its doing the reverse of most Star Wars and getting worse as it gets further away in time), and my problem with the EU wasn't the wars, it was the fact there was never so much as a year of peace and rebuilding, that the galaxy just lurched from crisis to invasion, back to crisis before pacing through the Vong then right on back to crises and invasions all over again
Thirty years of rebuilding for the Republic, thirty years of preparing to strike for the new Empire, thirty years of the OT heroes trying to make a go of it but failing because of their own flaws as people, is a lot better than just flinging them from battle to battle for decades
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>>92175778
What? There's tons of billboards here.

I don't want you faggots to meme up my city with your garbage though.
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>>92175778
I'm going to contact an advertising company that does bulletins in California, I'll see what I come up with.
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T B H it would have been cooler if Yoda had never picked up a lightsaber but instead BTFO Dooku and Sheev using only the almighty power of the Force
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>>92175790
Honestly, I attribute it more to being an internet thing.

It's easier to share opinions among others, some of whom are easily upset by having their steadfast beliefs questioned. Plus, the fact that the words linger as long as they stay on screen when it could easily be pushed away by the mind if spoken aloud.
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>>92175552

Darkest Greetings, Pablo!
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I fucking hated Bodhi as a character
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>>92175318
>Luke getting married?
After 30 years? That's only natural. Is he supposed to be living like a monk, considering that he had a normal life before Rebellion?

>Leia becoming a Jedi?
How is it bad? She has as much potential in the Force as Luke. She would be his first logical choice as his first trainee.
Honestly, I was a tiny bit disappointed that in the nuCanon she have never recieved any training.
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>>92176115
How? He wasn't a character.
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>>92173652
Hk47 isn't a fucking recolor
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>>92175295
>Its a movie folks!
Things still need to make sense. You can't just handwave everything by saying TURN YOUR BRAIN OFF, IT'S A MOVIE!
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>>92174228
Welcome to the echo chamber. You have to understand most here only got into star wars in the last few years so its out of ignorance they act kike faggots not malintent.
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>>92176133
>Is he supposed to be living like a monk, considering that he had a normal life before Rebellion?

Considering he was trying to be a Jedi, yes. He could go and have one-nighters, but marriage is an absolute no-no.

>How is it bad?
Because it's not who she is. Leia is a politician and revolutionary to her core. She can't become a Jedi because she's had far too much put into her for the role she was raised for to discard it. Luke didn't have that problem because he didn't have anywhere near as much in his life before he got mixed up with the galactic stage. It makes absolute complete sense that Leia never studied the Jedi arts.
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>>92175357
>you don't deserve to call yourself a Star Wars fan
Jesus christ, stop being such a faggot.
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>>92175691
>I've only watched season 1: the post
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>>92176348
That wouldn't surprise me.
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>>92176352
>Considering he was trying to be a Jedi, yes. He could go and have one-nighters, but marriage is an absolute no-no.
Why? He was his own man, there was no Council standing over him, waggling their finger in disapproval. Marriage and being a Jedi are not mutually excluding. In fact, many Jedi in NJO got married at some point. Or had a long-term relationship.

The Leia thing... In EU she did dropped out of Luke's Academy, because it interfered with her political career, but she still got throught the basics. At her best she was on the same level of mastery as Luke was in E6I. It was only natural: if you got talents in the Force, why not develop them?
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>>92176333
I never hear people bitch about James Bond movies though

SW is the same type of pulp. Nothing really makes sense.
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>>92176642
>He was his own man, there was no Council standing over him, waggling their finger in disapproval.
Two members of the council, one of which was the Grand master of the entire order, are still around to tell him what's bad.

>Marriage and being a Jedi are not mutually excluding
Yes, they are. The Jedi code forbids emotional attachment. That means things like marriage are not acceptable.
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