April 2017 Comic Book Sales Report - Top 10's

TOP COMIC BOOK PUBLISHERS
>>RETAIL MARKET SHARE
> 1. MARVEL COMICS - 34.95%
> 2. DC ENTERTAINMENT - 30.49%
> 3. IMAGE COMICS - 10.54%
> 4. DARK HORSE COMICS - 4.46%
> 5. IDW PUBLISHING - 3.63%
> 6. BOOM! STUDIOS - 2.27%
> 7. DYNAMITE ENTERTAINMENT - 1.44%
> 8. VIZ MEDIA - 1.30%
> 9. TITAN COMICS - 1.30%
> 10. ARCHIE COMICS - 0.90%
> OTHER NON-TOP 10 - 8.73%


>>UNIT MARKET SHARE
> 1. MARVEL COMICS - 38.23%
> 2. DC ENTERTAINMENT - 34.34%
> 3. IMAGE COMICS - 9.86%
> 4. DARK HORSE COMICS - 3.06%
> 5. IDW PUBLISHING - 2.95%
> 6. BOOM! STUDIOS - 1.95%
> 7. DYNAMITE ENTERTAINMENT - 1.60%
> 8. TITAN COMICS - 1.20%
> 9. VALIANT ENTERTAINMENT LLC - 0.87%
> 10. ARCHIE COMICS - 0.79%
> OTHER NON-TOP 10 - 5.15%

BookScan Top 20 Graphic Novels in April 2017
> 1. SAGA VOL. 7 (IMAGE COMICS)
> 2. BORUTO VOL. 1 (VIZ MEDIA)
> 3. TOKYO GHOUL VOL. 12 (VIZ MEDIA)
> 4. THE WALKING DEAD VOL. 27 (IMAGE COMICS)
> 5. MARCH: BOOK ONE (TOP SHELF PRODUCTIONS)
> 6. THE LEGEND OF ZELDA: TWILIGHT PRINCESS VOL. 1 (VIZ MEDIA)
> 7. MY FAVORITE THING IS MONSTERS (FANTAGRAPHICS BOOKS)
> 8. THE LEGEND OF ZELDA: LEGENDARY EDITION VOL. 3 (VIZ MEDIA)
> 9. ATTACK ON TITAN VOL. 21 (KODANSHA COMICS)
> 10. MONSTER MASUME VOL. 11 (SEAVEN SEAS)
> 11. TOKYO GHOUL VOL. 1 (VIZ MEDIA)
> 12. ONE-PUNCH MAN VOL. 11 (VIZ MEDIA)
> 13. BATMAN VOL. 2 (REBIRTH) (DC COMICS)
> 14. ONE-PUNCH MAN VOL. 1 (VIZ MEDIA)
> 15. BATMAN: THE KILLING JOKE DLX ED (DC COMICS)
> 16. THE LEGEND OF ZELDA: LEGENDARY EDITION VOL. 1 (VIZ MEDIA)
> 17. YU-GI-OH! ARC-V VOL. 1 (VIZ MEDIA)
> 18. TOKYO GHOUL VOL. 11 (VIZ MEDIA)
> 19. THE LEGEND OF ZELDA: LEGENDARY EDITION VOL. 2 (VIZ MEDIA)
> 20. WATCHMEN (DC COMICS)

Sauce: https://icv2.com/articles/news/view/37434/april-2017-bookscan-top-20-adult-graphic-novels


Sorry fuckers.

>>92106164
>> 3. X-MEN GOLD #1 (MAR)
>> 4. X-MEN BLUE #1 (MAR)
X-Fags never learn, do they?

>Among the premier publishers, Dark Horse Comics' Neil Gaiman's American Gods: Shadows #2 ranked #66 for the publisher's top book, and Star Trek/Green Lantern Volume 2 #5 was IDW Publishing's top-ranked book for April at #158.

>>92106167
> 8. Titan Comics

how long have they been a thing? I'm unfamiliar with the name.

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>>92106164
> 1. SECRET EMPIRE #0 (MAR)
> 2. BATMAN #21 LENTICULAR EDITION (THE BUTTON) (DC)

IS NOT FAIR

>>92106196
What is your end game?

>>92106196
no, we don't. It hurts

>>92106220
They're best-known as the current Doctor Who comic licensee.

>>92106228
>The non-lenticular edition of The Flash #21 fell just outside April's top 10 at #11.

>>92106220
They publish doctor who comics

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> 1. SECRET EMPIRE #0 (MAR)
> 2. BATMAN #21 LENTICULAR EDITION (THE BUTTON) (DC)

>>RETAIL MARKET SHARE
> 1. MARVEL COMICS - 34.95%
> 2. DC ENTERTAINMENT - 30.49%

>>UNIT MARKET SHARE
> 1. MARVEL COMICS - 38.23%
> 2. DC ENTERTAINMENT - 34.34%

DC AND /co/ BTFO

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>>92106164
>1. SECRET EMPIRE #0 (MAR)
> 2. BATMAN #21 LENTICULAR EDITION (THE BUTTON) (DC)
> 3. X-MEN GOLD #1 (MAR)
> 4. X-MEN BLUE #1 (MAR)
> 5. THE FLASH #21 LENTICULAR EDITION (THE BUTTON) (DC)
>>92106167
>1. MARVEL COMICS - 34.95%
> 2. DC ENTERTAINMENT - 30.49%
didn't even need Legacy to crush DC at comics

DC BTFO LITERALLY HAS NOTHING LEFT

>>92106228
Batman actually did outsell it most likely. Batman #21 has two different versions and both are in the Top 10.

>>92106220
They do the Doctor Who comics and localize some euro comix.

>>92106286
>> 1. MARVEL COMICS - 38.23%
>> 2. DC ENTERTAINMENT - 34.34%
also this

>>92106286
>Someone spent time to make this
>Someone spent time to post this

>>92106196
They are the battered housewives of the industry. They'll never learn and never leave

>>92106313
They also publish video game and TV show tie-ins too as well as adaptations of novels.

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>>92106164
> 10. RED HOOD & THE OUTLAWS VOL. 1: DARK TRINITY TP (DC)
What in the fuck? Didn't /co/ said this was the worthless garbage of DC?

>>92106286
>using the old logo
Step up your shitposting game, fampai.

>>92106344
Just as batmanfags,spiderfags....

>>92106329
At the time DC used that logo the gif was accurate.
>>92106359
One of the best books of Rebirth. The New 52 run was the one that had problems.

>>92106427
it's still accurate

in fact it will never NOT be accurate

>>92106359
Rhato is only surpassed by Superman and Deathstroke for me. Def in top 5. Its fucking amazing.

>>92106274
Events sell whatever. You can have low selling inhumans then bam a top selling event for inhumans.

Heck moon girl could have a event that sells while her own comic is axed during the event run.

>>92106466
'Kay. Keep crying.

>>92106164
>Batman 21 in the Top 10 twice.
>Flash 21 in the Top 11 twice.
Holy shit, that's fucking crazy. We need to see the actual numbers, but that's a guaranteed #1 and #2 position by a mile. No wonder the two X-Men are at #3 and #4.

>>92106274
>Batman 21 has 2 seperate versions that are still in top 10. (2. and 7.)
>Hydra!Cap fans thinks this is victory.

>>92106359
Sales do not and have never reflected quality.

> 2. BATMAN #21 LENTICULAR EDITION (THE BUTTON) (DC)
> 7. BATMAN #21 (THE BUTTON) (DC)

Why are these separate instead of the lenticular just counting as a variant?

>>92106612
Because of D*sney's bribes.

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>>92106164
>>92106167
>getting destroyed by Marvel at movies
>getting destroyed by Marvel at TV shows
>getting destroyed by Marvel at toys and other merchandise
>getting destroyed by Marvel at video games
>getting destroyed by Marvel at music
>and now getting destroyed by Marvel at comics
Can someone just shut these losers down already?

>>92106425
Nah, X-fags are the battered housewives.
Batfags are the spoiled first sons
Spiderfags are delusional widows who still believe their husband is alive when he's been dead for years

>>92106669
Company wars are against the rules.

>>92106671
Accurate. Fuck Marvel for what they have done to X-Men.

>>92106344
Just like the idiot Spideyfags who spend $10 on a comic.

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>>92106164
>> 2. BATMAN #21 LENTICULAR EDITION (THE BUTTON) (DC)
>> 5. THE FLASH #21 LENTICULAR EDITION (THE BUTTON) (DC)
>> 6. BATMAN #20 (DC)
>> 7. BATMAN #21 (THE BUTTON) (DC)
OH WELL! CONGRATULATIONS TO THE COMPETENCE!

>>92106196
Both books were entertaining what do we have to learn exactly?

>>92106359
/co/ never said that.

Go to a storytime. People love it.

>>92106694
Ah, let him enjoy a small victory sometime.

>>92106730
>Guggenshit
>"""entertaining"""
Sure thing, bud.

>>92106359
The first volume was only readable because of the art. Then it got better in DCYou when Starfire left. Then it got good with the Rebirth Dark Trinity stuff.

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>>92106164
>> 1. SECRET EMPIRE #0 (MAR)
>> 3. X-MEN GOLD #1 (MAR)
Brevoort is saved. He will go on publishing the same old shit until the end of his days.
>mfw

>2. HELLBOY: INTO THE SILENT SEA HC (DAR)
Nice.

>>92106809
And Spencer will be bragging about it in Twitter, thinking he's the salvation of capes.

>>92106636
This. It's just more cases of D*sney cheating the system to make their numbers higher. I bet Secret Memepire's numbers are artificially inflated too because there's no way it actually sold #1 let alone even in the Top 10.

>E-events and first issues sold! W-we made it guys!

"Secret Empire #0" was one f those "comics that go with loot boxes". We know for a fact that it sold worse than a normal issue of Superman.

>>92106730
>Marlel
>"""""""""""entertaining"""""""""""
This is what shills ACTUALLY believe.

>Marvel: three #1's and a #0, SW
>DC: three Batman, one Flash
>TWD
Yawn.

>>92106879
This. Marvel is finished.

>>92106922
Entertaining shitshows they are, especially when they bait for controversy.

>>92106926
And the Flash comic is only there because it's a crossover with Batman.

good for Marvel but lets see if they can make it past issue 1

Dividing different covers of the same issue into separate rankings while keeping Marvels gimmicks to push Secret Empire as one unit says a lot.

>>92106950
>shit they are
Fixed.

>>92106872
Prepare the fireworks: https://twitter.com/nickspencer/status/860517582230638593

>>92106954
or Flash gained a lot of fans from the shit tv show

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>>92106726
Cheer up.
>> 1. BATMAN VOLUME 2: I AM SUICIDE TP (DC)
>> 4. SUPERMAN VOL. 2: TRIALS OF THE SUPER SON TP (DC)
>> 5. ALL-STAR BATMAN VOL. 1: MY OWN WORST ENEMY HC (DC)
>> 7. BATMAN VOLUME 10: EPILOGUE TP (DC)
>> 8. JUSTICE LEAGUE VOLUME 2: OUTBREAK TP (DC)
>> 10. RED HOOD & THE OUTLAWS VOL. 1: DARK TRINITY TP (DC)

>>92106967
will someone tell him about the 2 Batman books or does he block everyone that disagrees with him

>>92106965
Exactly. If anyone ever claims that D*sney doesn't pay Diamond under the table to goose the numbers in their favor, just point to this. There's literally no way you can justify this. It's blatant favoritism to make it look like Marvel did better than they actually did. I know for a FACT that Superman outsold Secret Empire by a significant amount yet it's not even in the Top 10.

>>92106967
>Someone gonna remind him about 2 Flashes and 2 Bats
>N-no i m still the best

>>92106967
>those shills congratulating him

>>92106164
>batman and flash both twice in the top 11
Nick Spencer BTFO

>>92106953
Flash outsells 95% of Marvel catalog since Rebirth.

>>92106993
Im not trying to inject politics here but it really seems like "progressives", wheteher its politicians, or news programs or corporations are obsessed with image management rather than actual results. marvel doesnt gain one penny from manipulating these numbers. They just save face and that really seems to be what motivates progressive entities/people. Its weird.

>>92106669
DC is destroying marlel in everything but movies though

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>>92107076

>>92107076

DCEU movies actually make good money, specially on DVD and merchandizing sales.

I'm not even a fan, but fair is fair. Normies and edgy kids eat it up.

As for Nick Spencers Twitter it really needs to be pointed out that Marvel bundled SE and got full credit for it while DCs variants were counted as separate entities but sold the same story. DC btfo of marvel here and it seems really clear to anyone that follows these things. Outright lying/spin to save face. Sad!

>>92107059
This. It's pretty clear that this is just even more SJW propoganda, not even worth acknowledging. Literally yawning at this.

>>92107059
progressives has always been about looks more than anything else

>>92107114

Don't forget lootcrate.

>>92107099
The truth is hard isn't it?

>>92107076
>Taking the obvious bait.

>>92107076
Marvel also makes a lot more movies so even if the DCEU was good it still couldn't keep up

An honest list would have the Button at #1, Flash at #2, then Secret Empire #3, and the two XMen books finish the top 5. Very good month for DC and lots of very nervous folks at Marvel today!

issue #0 sold well but will #1 sell well
does it still count as a number 1 even if it isn't the first

>>92107148
Thats what i was referring to but couldnt think of the name of the promotion. what is lootcrate anyways?

>>92107278
>what is lootcrate anyways?
A scam created by disney to make their sales look better than they are.

>>92107278
Company where you pay them I think like $15 a month and they send you random pop culture shit.

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>>92106967
>https://twitter.com/nickspencer/status/860517582230638593
This tweet made my head spin.
I'm at a complete loss.

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>>92107384
>
I can't tell if he's joking or actually retarded.

>>92106218
>Dark Horse Comics' Neil Gaiman's American Gods: Shadows #2 ranked #66 for the publisher's top book
how so low?

wait, I know. Cause no one knew about it

>>92107384
Secret Empire isn't controversial if your head isn't up your own ass.

Talking about killing all infidels is controversial no matter where your head is.

>>92106967
>Thnik of the Spencer tweet threads after someone ''''reminds''' him about Batman and Flash.
Cant w8.

>>92106730
>X-Men Gold
>entertaining
This is either severe Stockholm syndrome or beyond shit taste, I can't figure out which one.

>>92106982
woah red hood
ok lets gooo

>>92106730
I was disappointed by the lack of dance parties

>>92106274
that's not actually pretty bad though, DC has 2 issues of a crossover story arc Marvel literally has the relaunching of the X-Men and the start of an Event.

>>92107384
X-men Gold had actual controversy. The "controversy" for Secret Empire is just a bunch of butthurt MCUfag tumblrites that don't actually read comics screaming into the void about how "they made Cap into a Nazi!"

>>92107429
Thw problem is that marvel didnt plan for x-men gold to be controversial

>>92106612
Two different price points. One is 3.99$ and the other $2.99

>>92107692
BUT it's worth noting that these are pre-order numbers. Secret Empire's "controversy" was something that existed before the comic came out meaning it would have effected sales if controversy does sell comics. On the other hand, X-men Gold's controversy didn't happen until after its release, so it wouldn't have effected these numbers at all.

Well, Ive done my part by visiting Nicks twitter and letting him know DC kicked his ass.

>>92107632
>DC has 2 issues of a crossover story arc
Propped up by Watchmen.

>>92107731
Screenshot pls?

>Marvel Comics
>Comics Shipped 93
>Graphic Novels Shipped 41

>DC Comics
>Comics 78
>Graphic Novels Shipped 33

This seems like a pretty big difference, any reason for it? Does it get calculated into market share?

>Marvel literally has the relaunching of the X-Men and the start of an Event

When's the next event after this? August?

>>92106878
It is. Secret Empire #0 is in a Funko box or something

>>92106359

I don't understand either. Somehow Lobdell is... good?

Rebirth is a strange beast, but a good beast nonetheless.

>>92106359
Are you kidding me? Black Mask was on point!

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>>92106967

Holy shit. He's a bad winner and bad loser, but somehow he's a competent if incredibly misguided writer.

Spencer is a fucking enigma to me, Grant Morrison on LSD while I'm drunk makes more sense as a person.

>>92107757
im old and stupid cant do stuff like that. i just opened the link posted above then posted 2 comments. highwaysongs is my handle. not many comments in the thread. plenty of space for you to add your remarks for nick to notice. hint hint.

>>92106669
>companywars faggot
>likes RLM

Checks out.

>>92107747
Sorry DC has iconic literature. how dare they use their own property right?

>>92106359
It's literally the best batbook bar none and a top 5 of Rebirth.

>>92107859
>>92107731
Saw it. Based anon.

>>92107974
S-screenshot pls?

>>92107935
It's pretty scummy and lazy to keep dragging Watchmen out 2bh.

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>>92106359
I would suggest the first arc at least of Rebirth Outlaws, then branch out from there.

>>92108000
https://twitter.com/nickspencer/status/860517582230638593
At the bottom. Last 2 posts.

>>92108186
I don't understand the post about units.

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>DC wins very weekly report but lose the monthly
How do these things works?

>>92107857
>Grant Morrison on LSD while I'm drunk
I want to experience that

>>92106228
SE #1 is part of some collector loot box thing so expect it to "sell" in the 200k range.

>>92106359
Are you posting from 2011?

>>92107778
Lobdell's quality is heavily dependent on his editors. This was apparent even in New 52.

>>92106993
>know for a FACT
how so?

>>92108186
No im posting under his newest tweet. you guys are all talk if you dont help me rub his face in it.

>>92108354
Now, not no.

>>92108354
>>92108186
pretty cringey desu

>>92108225
weekly report is just either:
1. Rich Johnson talking to some LCS friends about their sales
2. Comixology digital sales

>>92108424
Then cringe, faggot. I dont mind and it causes wrinkles, so go for it.

>>92106286
>made a gif to shitpost DC stuff
>uses the old logo

my sides!

>Marvel BTFOing DC hard yet again
I wonder if they ever get tired of winning.

>>92108225
The bleedingcool shit is literally just Rich talking to a dozen stores at most.

>>92106196
Don't worry, they'll be pathetically low by #8.

>ITT: DC interns argue with marvel interns

>>92108003

Do you want a list of iconic shit that marvel has drag over the mud the past years?

Which nazi its celebrating a important aniversary this year?

>>92108225
marvel is inflating sales in every way possible.

There is being on top and there is being technically on top and that's what Marvel is going for, trying to look good while in reality they are bleeding

>>92108643
>Do you want a list of iconic shit that marvel has drag over the mud the past years?
Uh, that's lazy too? They both have a really bad history with fucking creators over and stealing the rights away to milk.

>Which nazi its celebrating a important aniversary this year?
???

>>92107764
Yeah, as established in other threads in the last week, Funko included Secret Empire #0 in their Marvel Collector Corps box last month, which usually get counted to the chart total.

WHEN WILL DISNEY BUY DC LMAO

I have to come and laugh because the D.C. Fanboys were just SO obnoxious this month, crowing about how "their company" (lol like they own any stock in it) would blow away the competition after they had ONE month on top. I'd say I hope they learn to eat crow but we all know they'll just do what they always do, say the stats don't matter this time because "their company" didn't "win" this month.

>>92108225
Monthly is retailer pre-orders. They have to guess what they can sell.
BC Weekly is a sample of retailers reporting what actually sold to customers for them, out of those pre-orders they made.

>>92106164
so is there a reason they count the two Batman #21 covers separately?

>>92108710
when AT&T buys TimeWarner they'll probably shut down WB so 2018 early 2019

>>92108729
Yeah, number ones and an event with loot boxes gimmick really put DC in their place.

>>92108686
DC didn't steal the rights of Watchmen. It's always been the deal that if it ever went out of print for a year, it'd go back to Moore. The shit sells like gangbusters so it's never going out so DC will own it forever.

>>92108771
My guess is probably cover price.

>>92108802
that's fair I suppose

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>Marvel drones sperging out that the literal relaunch of the X-men and the first issue of an event that is being given out for free is ahead of a moderately relevant Batman issue
>not to mention that the two Batman variants together probably outsold them

Mein sides

>>92108686
DC actually has considerably less history of fucking over creators if you consider their movie royalties deal, creators will make far more money off royalties from DC than they ever will from Marvel.

>>92106164
> 10. RED HOOD & THE OUTLAWS VOL. 1: DARK TRINITY TP (DC)
Cool.

>>92106164
> 10. RED HOOD & THE OUTLAWS VOL. 1: DARK TRINITY TP (DC)
Well deserved.

>>92106359
It's one of the best books DC is publishing right now.

>>92108729
>https://twitter.com/nickspencer/status/860517582230638593
This is Nick Spencer, He is the writer of Secret Empire. He thinks SECRET EMPIRE 0 the best-selling comic of April 2017.

> 2. BATMAN #21 LENTICULAR EDITION (THE BUTTON) (DC)
> 5. THE FLASH #21 LENTICULAR EDITION (THE BUTTON) (DC)
> 7. BATMAN #21 (THE BUTTON) (DC)

>>92108825
>Damage Control Comics

>>92106164
>1. SECRET EMPIRE #0 (MAR)

FUCKING NAZIS

>>92106164
>Marvel not even present in top 10 graphic novels
well it's nice to see them getting bodied in the market that matters I suppose

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>>92108860
>It's one of the best books DC is publishing right now.

>>92108865
>can't refute the facts
>better say damage control

Sad

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>>92106164
>Batman #21 regular and lenticular count as two separate issues
>SE is #1 with an asterisks
>"GUISE WE DID IT"
Absolutely pathetic.

>>92108904
the bar is pretty fucking high with Deathstroke

>>92108860
Definitely agree with this. RHATO is one of my favorite books.

>>92108863
>doesn't thank Funko
well that's a little rude

>>92108904
Deathstroke and New Super Man put the bar pretty high.

>>92108836
>Superman

>>92108793
so when will Disney start destroying DC like they've destroyed Marvel

>>92108968
Shhhhhh!

Bros I am literally shaking, how could this happen again? Don't people realize DC was the better choice? I can't take it, this is the election all over again. Why does evil ALWAYS WIN?

god I have no idea who's shit posting who anymore. This place is truly /v/, there are no fans anymore. Just idiots falseflagging each other.

>>92106730
this has to be bait

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>>92108225

Basically, retailer orders too much and then is stuck with the product. Take that $9.99 issue of Amazing Spider-Man #25 a few months back. It made a killing in the sales charts right?

Well, guess what my LCS (and it's entire chain of stores in IL) are giving away on FCBD for FREE? Amazing Spider-Man #25. They are actually giving this $9.99 comic FOR FREE because they have so many damn copies of the comic stuffed on their shelves at various locations in IL (25 copies per store, 7 stores together in the chain. That's 175 copies being given away for free.

the chain of comic shops in IL frequently show up on Bleeding Cool's weekly comic reports.

>>92108986
DC pays the Shuster's though.

>>92106730
I want to be ENTERTAINED by X-Men again anon, believe me i do...

>>92106196
They're pretty OK
>Blue > Gold
>Bunn > Guggenheim

>>92108996
if by "destroy" you mean "turn into a multi-billion dollar franchise" then 2020

>>92109084
Surprise, this is what you get when you start doing weekly sales threads. They are magnets for shitposting and company brand wars.

>>92106359
Lobdell has improved his writing at so many levels, I'm happy to say I'm enjoying a comic by Scott Lobdell

>Secret Empire 0 at #1
>Batman 21 at #2
I find this weird, my shop sold out of batman and flash on the first day. When i came by to pick up my pull on the weekend there were still a stack of Secret Empire books. Maybe their order was off

>>92109144
>sales = quality
they make shit movies and shit comics now

>>92109186
>>92106519

>>92108797
Yeah, and at the time the idea of a comic never going out of print was unheard of. No one thought it'd do that well, and that certainly doesn't justify how they've treated Watchmen (or Alan Moore).

You know, DC is the reason why Alan Moore doesn't even own a copy of Watchmen right? How sad is that?

>>92109200
say it enough times and maybe it'll actually come true

>>92109084
Well, thank god I'm no the only one feeling that way.

>>92109186
Funko boxes were filled with Secret Empire #0, therefore, it "sold well".

>>92109218
It clearly worked for you.

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>>92109218
already true anon just accept that Marvel is a shell of it's former self

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today I will remind them

>>92109261
That's actually kind of cute and funny and is also a pretty good argument against SJW pedantry?

>>92109216
Bill Mantlo is literally retarded because of an injury and Marvel has barely done anything to acknowledge him or even help him despite his creation gaining a huge amount of popularity.

>>92109136
ug, how can anyone stand Blue? It's all "We are hipster new X-men and we make terrible quirky quips in everything we do!" Some quips are fine but holy fuck is this bad. Is this what Bunn thinks teenagers sound like?

>>92109334
sure it is, Ryan

>>92109216
Marvel literally couldn't use Moore's name when they reprinted Miracleman

>>92109334
>That's actually kind of cute and funny
>the current Marvel readership

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>>92109337
Okay, and that's fucked up too? There's a reason I don't support either company, faggot.

>>92109363
Who's Ryan?

>>92109381
>why don't you be gender inclusive
>I'm fucking galactus
Yeah, it was funny.

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>>92109429

>>92109429
>laughing.jpeg

The problem was never Nazi Cap. No one with a brain thinks that will last. The problem is Nick Spencer being a dick on social media. He has been such a dick that the outrage over his behavior has used the stupid storyline as an excuse to pile on. If they were honest, people just hate the cum bucket and the bike that he spews on social media.

FFS. This guy is so toxic Disney had to step in and make Marvel issue a press release apologizing to fans for the story.


Disney needs to add clauses in the Marvel contracts, regarding their public activities affecting the perception of the company. Especially social media and convention appearances. He is not just representing himself on Twatter. He is representing his work for Marvel and the company. If he abuses marvel fans, he needs to pay a price for his behavior by being fired.

FFS. Disney didn't even have to step in over the hatred of Peter and MJ splitting up. This is very serious when the parent company steps in when usually they could care less what Marvel does.

>>92109412
retailer who spoke out against Marvel's shitty sales practices. Anon can't use any of DC's because they're pretty casual how they use social media unlike how Marvel creators like Slott, Waid, Spencer often go against tirades against any naysayers they have on the interney

>>92109405
Pick a side you fucking faggot

>>92109314

Wait, does this mean Jude Terror posts here?!

>>92109651
He lurks and steals our shit

>>92109529
this and make it the right one

>>92109481
>No one with a brain thinks that will last.
>Said a year after it started

>>92106164
Did the X-Men sales get DOBSON'd too? I can't see the Blue one selling by itself.

>>92107692
Part of the "controversy" is that they killed off Rick Jones for shock
Y'know, just like Batman vs Superman did with Jimmy Olsen, which tells a lot about the writing quality.

>>92109790
So it's pure comic kino, is what you're saying?

>>92109481
Every Marvel employee is a fucking asshole online.

>>92108186
>that Zacksparks tweet
Haha oh wow

>>92109866
Oh yeah, it's just "misunderstood" and stuff.

>>92107763
Marvel ever since new52 has sold more in both areas than dc which is why they have a bigger share but don't tell anyone or else they'll have nothing to fight about.

>>92109889
I guess it beats being at DC with all the editors who can't keep it in their pants.

>>92109261

>random humor comic book is random

what you tried to meme by this my man

>>92109942
Marvel has never outsold DC in graphic novels despite publishing more. Hell, they struggle to overcome Image most of the time.

>>92109216
I dont get this meme on so many levels.
1- Moore is a dickhead hypocrite. As you know he doesnt want anyone using "his" characters, even though he himself does it regularly when working for others, or himself, (LOEM for example). I never understand Moore or his defenders just because Ive read many Moore comics and many are lifted like the Watchmen or someone else created them and hired Moore, or he borrows from historical fiction and real characters...like, all the freaking time.
2- What terrible thing has DC done with the Watchmen? They keep it in print in different collectible formats, and they tried a small pre-watchmen imprint, which i support. I would love a regular Watchmen imprint of titles full well knowing the stories and art may never top Moores. But thats just me.
3- And DC actually had a superb, superb, superb movie adaptation made which no one thought was possible and which turned out nearly perfect even with and because of its deviating from the series.

So I dont get it? Why do people shit on DC for this? What am I missing?

>>92109481
THIS! marvel would be okay if they banned the talent from using social media. Thats whats turning people against every single thing the company tries.

>>92110168
Nah man, it's the comics.

>>92110168
Their comics are also pretty shit

>>92110108
>I would love a regular Watchmen imprint of titles full well knowing the stories and art may never top Moores. But thats just me.
...But why?

>>92110108
What terrible thing has DC done to the Watchmen? That's easy, they made "Before Watchmen".

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>>92106164
>> 1. SECRET EMPIRE #0 (MAR)

Marvel finally back at the top

finally

And guess what? It happened because of a "huge event" thing which people like to criticize so often

>>92110273
Did the rest of his post not signal his terrible taste enough?

>>92109092
>Well, guess what my LCS (and it's entire chain of stores in IL) are giving away on FCBD for FREE? Amazing Spider-Man #25. They are actually giving this $9.99 comic FOR FREE because they have so many damn copies of the comic stuffed on their shelves at various locations in IL (25 copies per store, 7 stores together in the chain. That's 175 copies being given away for free.

Geez.

>>92110279
Um
read the thread, true believer

>>92110108
>3- And DC actually had a superb, superb, superb


Anon, please. It was cool and shit, I watched went into the cinema for it and also watched the mega full version with the cartoon adaptation of the tales of the black freighter and shit but lol. 7/10 with low replay value

>>92109186
Again, the chart released today is what retailers ordered. Actual sell-through may vary.

>>92109481
>FFS. Disney didn't even have to step in over the hatred of Peter and MJ splitting up.

That's mainly because the split up happened before the Disney buyout officially happened. Had Disney bought out Marvel in 2007 I think they might've stepped in.

>>92109651
I like to think so.

>>92109216
there was this interview where one of moore's colleagues was asked about moores outrage over movies being made from his property and the response was "alan never minded taking the money back then."

I dont think it was gibbons and of course now I can't find the article

>>92109790
>Did the X-Men sales get DOBSON'd too? I can't see the Blue one selling by itself.

It's hard to say. Retailers did express optimism about the X-Men relaunches so they likely ordered more. But I don't know if they showed up in any other boxes, Funko only does one Marvel box every two months, and I don't think Lootcrate had anything.

>>92109942
>Marvel ever since new52 has sold more in both areas

It's nothing about sales; i mean, why do they make so many more different books? is it because they do stupid shit like individual comics for every deadpool character or what?

DC KEKED

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>>92106164
>> 1. SECRET EMPIRE #0 (MAR)
Lie. Check again. Fake news. This only happened because of the over shipping.

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>>92109092
>$9.99

>>92110398
>is what retailers ordered.

So it doesn't include things like over shipping Mosaic?

>>92109092
HAHAHAHA, they deserve to go out of business. and Marvel needs to smarten up with that shit too

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>>92106164
> 10. RED HOOD & THE OUTLAWS VOL. 1: DARK TRINITY TP (DC)
Noice

>>92110891
Word of mouth seems to have helped out.

>>92106189
Anyone else here read My Favorite Thing Is Monsters?

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>>92109092
>They are actually giving this $9.99 comic FOR FREE because they have so many damn copies of the comic stuffed on their shelves at various locations in IL

>>92110632
As far as I know no one said anything about overships happening for April.

>>92110524
I meant maybe overshipping and stuff, too.

>>92110632
I guess the better wording would be "what people ordered from Diamond." The overshipping numbers (like with Mosaic and Nova) are included in the numbers that they give. I don't think they have announced any overships for this month though.
It's weird that they remove an automatic 10% for the DC returnable titles, but don't alter the overshipped ones

>>92111427
Not weird at all when you see they split DC variants up into separate units also.

>>92110099
When I said sold I didn't mean it in a financial sense I meant that they put out more books which is true.

>>92110582
>This only happened because of the over shipping.

they did a loot crate kind of thing with that issue, so yes.

>>92111523
I can see why they split those issues up though. They have different price points. The lenticular one is a dollar more.
I don't think that the marvel variants have different prices normally.

>>92111523
They're split up because they have different price points. And someone asked why the Funko variant would be included with Secret Empire #0's orders, that's because the cover price on the book was the same throughout.

>>92106164
How in the name of all that is holy is Secret Empire #1?

>>92108866
>Its a number 1

fucking speculators. Cut that number in half for issue 2

>>92107104
>edgy

I dont think you know what that word means. There hasnt been anything "edgy" about the DCEU except maybe Joker but he is always an edgelord. The edgiest thing is Batman killing and even then they make that out to be a BAD thing. Real EDGE would make it out to be good.

>>92112899
>edgy is good
Liefeld pls

>>92112503
Read the thread before responding, you fucking idiot.

>>92113048
Your reading comprehension is bad

>>92112503
Because its good?

>>92106164
>> 1. SECRET EMPIRE #0 (MAR)
DC BTFO

>3 out of the top 5
>5 out of the top 10

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>>92113302

I honestly can't wait for the numbers. Take away 100k for secret empire and add the Batman issues together to see what actually was #1

>>92115006
Only reason it was a top seller is because of the dumb loot box garbage.

I doubt this event sells well taking away inflated numbers. Comic stores were already saying that the button crushed in their stores while SE was 4-5th on the list.

>>92112503

lootcrate

>>92106196
Well to be fair, people jumped on Gold #1 after the Sayf controversy hit.

>>92109314
What was the original context here? Him just calling out Hydra Cap for being a dick?

>>92108601
Probably why they both start Secret Hydration tie-ins in #7.

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>>92106164
>> 1. SECRET EMPIRE #0 (MAR)

Ha, Marvel fans will really buy any garbage Marvel puts out, won't they? Proves at least that they're right with their "controversy sells" approach.

>>92116427
Lootcrate is gonna be the majority of the sales

>>92106164
>>92106167
Gonna laugh when I see the numbers and realise once again Marvel is number one again because of Star Wars and using #0 combo with lootcrate or toys.

Oh boy you guys never learn that Marvel will do everything - even loss money - just to be #1

>>92115641
No. Steve wanted to try and save Rick from the death sentence, telling him everything would be alright if Rick just apologized and did a hail hydra. Rick wouldn't have it so Steve said he couldn't protect him. As Steve was leaving Rick says to him "you're still my hero", which is why Steve has that look on his face.

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>>92117084
everything but make good comics

>>92117182
good comics don't sell.

>>92106196

I got Weapon X because of Pak and dropped it immediately, didnt even bother with the rest

>>92117216
No? I think that without Star Wars DC is ahead of Marvel

Should I check the Diamond numbers and do the math?

>>92106164
>why is Greg Land on this book, no one likes his art they said

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>>92117368
>an X-men #1 sells

>>92117253
Rebirth sucks too.

>>92117430
It's mostly just middle-of-the-road, nothing is really outright bad like a lot of Marvel's output

>>92117430

>rebirth sucks

This is a meme

>>92117466
>Superwoman
>Blue Beetle
>Supergirl
>Justice League
>Harley Quinn

And apparently JLA and Hellblazer are bad but I haven't read any of those myself

>>92111346
No X-Men sells so it was the opposite of that, they had a shit load of sales threshold variants

>>92117515
they're not terrible, just boring and mediocre

JLA is ok, and I haven't bothered with Heckblazer either

>>92117515
>Detective Comics
>Action Comics
>The Flash
>various minis like Raven, Bane, Deadman...

>>92117253
Man that is to bad I can't find Marvel total for 02/2017

But Star Wars sold 263k units that is quite alot, would say close to 4-5%. It would put DC ahead of Marvel actually and this is with 10% overship right?

>b-but Star Wars
every single month lmao

>>92117578

Bane is amazing, faggot.

>>92107059
You say this while our Republican president is so obsessed with image he'll lie about shit like how many people showed up to his inauguration

>>92117829
get some taste, shitface.

>>92118058

Seriously? It was just storytimed the other day and literally everyone in the thread loved it. He's written a damn sight better in that book than the manbaby that is kings bane.

>all these DC fanboys crying that Marvel only won because of an event
>implying a crossover with fucking Watchmen isn't an event

Sad desu

>>92118131
> a crossover is a event..
Sure kiddo
Sad to be stupid?

>>92118131
>four issues of two ongoings
>doesn't even get its own miniseries
>only involvement with Watchmen is the button
hardly

>>92108996
We can hope Disney sack Bendis, Brevoort, Waid etc and put smart people in charge.

>Marvel puts out nearly 20% more books
>Start of their SUPER MEGA FOREVER event of the year
>Was included in Marvel's loot crate thing
>Has had tonnes of press
>A bunch of high profile #1's
>X-Men Gold controversy got tonnes of press
>Only sold 3.9% more than DC it'll be even smaller when just the top 300 are released
Marvel is finished.

>>92107384
Gonna be embarrassing when the full numbers are released and the numbers for Batman #21 and Flash #21 are combined and they both beat Secret Empire #0
>it's a Marvel has to use dirty tricks to make it seem like they're winning episode

>>92118563
>>X-Men Gold controversy got tonnes of press
these figures are pre-order numbers, they were locked in well before the controversy

>>92118626
Shit. Forgot about that. Th rest still stands though.

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>>92106164
> 10. RED HOOD & THE OUTLAWS VOL. 1: DARK TRINITY

>>92106164
When will the numbers come up?

>>92119352
probably Monday

>>92110108
They offered Moore money for the movies too but he told DC to give everything to Gibbons.

Not to mentiom Moore originally was going to do the story with Charlton characters but now is butthurt he couldn't keep his OCs Donut Steels

>>92109339
Why would they sound like real teenagers to begin with?

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