Fairy Tail and Iron Fist

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>>92066444

>>92066477
Fuck this retcon. Goku was sent to Earth to conquer that shit.

Mashima should just do a full transition to porn.

>>92066477
I will never accept this as canon.

We're in a weird situation where Toriyama is just as cancerous to the DB franchise as George Lucas is to Star Wars but at the same time we cant get rid of him because Toei literally wouldn't know what to do without him.

>>92068593
>We're in a weird situation where Toriyama is just as cancerous to the DB franchise

are you fucking retarded or what? Toriyama has been doing nothing but turning a great series into something even better.

Would you really take GT over Super?

There is also a manga about a kid that somehow gets transported into the DBZ universe inside Yamcha's body of all people!

And his plan is to turn Yamcha into the best DBZ character ever, how is not that amazing? And it was thanks to Toriyama for allowing it to happen

>>92068684
Dude Toriyama made DB Minus and is adamant we stick to his headcanon flanderized version of Goku.

Also look at Super's arcs

>Really strong guy comes to Earth to fight Goku and Goku must unlock a new SSJ form to beat him
>Frieza is revived and comes to Earth to fight Goku and Goku must unlock a new SSJ form to beat him
>Tournament arc with a not-Frieza and big Dragon Balls
>Future Trunks asks Goku and Vegeta to fight Turle- uhh evil Goku
>Another Tournament arc but this time the stakes are even higher!

Then he continues to shit all over Gohan.

>>92068684
Super has been an utter joke. Almost as bad as GT. As for Toriyama, he clearly doesn't care about what came before. Feels more like he got an idea for a different work, but Toei and fans want more Dragonball, so he retrofitted those ideas onto Dragonball.

>>92068593
George Lucas all over again. Still the franchise was still better in his hands than that evil mouse.

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>>92068803
>Then he continues to shit all over Gohan.
who cares? he got his stories, is time for multiverse shit with gods, brilliant!

You are ok Toriyama, don't go to the Star vs season 3 marathon in a couple of months

>>92068858
>Super has been an utter joke. Almost as bad as GT.
explain

>>92068858
>As for Toriyama, he clearly doesn't care about what came before.

so? many artist move fordward with their work, he has done a lot more stuff since DBZ, you know?

>>92069012
>Still the franchise was still better in his hands than that evil mouse.

The prequels were trash. Stop using this meme

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>>92066646
agreed