Frozen 2

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>>92054446
Yeah actually. It might be overrated but I really enjoyed Frozen. It might have actually been the one to get me back into Disney films actually.

I'm not really sure where they'll go with it, but I am interested. If nothing else it should have some fantastic songs.

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>>92054446
Very. Can't wait.

>>92054556
>84
/frz/? What became of you guys after you moved to your own chan? Last I checked it died

>>92054446
Not really, they haven't done anything interesting with Frozen since the movie ended, Tangled's follow-up movie wasn't great so I'm not expecting too much from this.
Thinking more Belle's Enchanted Christmas than Return of Jafar

>>92055122
>Tangled's follow-up movie
It wasn't even a theatrical release. In fact, it was so low profile I didn't even know about it despite browsing /co/ regularly. Tangled's follow up and this are 2 completely different ball parks.

I'm more excited for the porn than I am for the movie.

>>92054446
It's gonna be shit. Tthere's a reason they tell you to not freeze food twice.

>>92054446
If they actually fix the flaws of the original film such as animation which will age better. Then yes.

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>>92056907
what's the reason?
>asking for a friend

>>92054446
On one hand, I want to be optimistic and see them make this into something better than the first.

On the other hand, I didn't like the first and this movie is now plagued with whiny fans that are gonna act like manchildren when Elsa doesn't mack on burritos.

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>>92057010
God, I'm dreading the shitstorm of when Frozen 2 will give Elsa a love interest that isn't female. We have to prepare because the shitposting on the internet will be a sight to see.

>>92056977
It pretty much ruins the quality of anything by fucking with the moisture and expanding ice crystals. Especially uncooked meats.

>>92054601
It's still around...

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>>92057060

Disney is so progressive it might happen!

>>92057128
No matter what Disney will do, there's going to a epic bitch fit.

>>92055122
All those other sequels you mentioned were done by lesser animation departments, while Frozen 2 will be done by the main animation studio, and by the same writer, director, composer and song writers. I expect a much more high-quality production.

>>92057202

it will be a well polished turd

>>92057176
Which is why they'll probably play it safe and keep her single.

>>92056977
>what's the reason?
>>asking for a friend
It is due to modern refrigeration. Modern freezers drive out moisture. This is why with certain restaurants, they still use ice boxes intentionally for fish. Melting ice supplies WET refrigeration, so foods don't turn into jerky while stored in them.

>>92054446
I love this movie. I am fucking there

>>92057313
>I love this movie. I am fucking there

are you a six year old girl?

>>92056907
What about cheese.
Do you freeze your cheese

>>92054446
Excited and nervous. I'm going for a Hansdemption, but even aside from that I worry about them not having the guts to do a proper standalone movie, and instead delivering bland status quo shit with endless clunky references to the greatest hits and lines of the first movie with Elsa in a slightly recolored ice dress and Anna in 3 new gowns. Also loads of Olaf and Trolls screentime.

But I'm hoping it won't be like that

>>92057107
Bullshit. The link I had went down ages ago.
yoloswagg.in/co/frz

>>92057176
>No matter what Disney will do, there's going to a epic bitch fit.
Frankly the first Frozen was an accidental hit as it is. I really have no idea how they were going to replicate the success, when they didn't plan for the first one to be anything like it ended up being.

>>92057418
Hoping for, not going for. Sry

>>92057446

it's bigger hit even than Lion King, the wanted to tap more from the Marvel with BH6 but it didn't quite work out.

>>92057539

*they

>>92054446
Am I the only one that thinks Frozen was a thinly veiled allegory about coming out? That whole, not hiding who you are thing really feels got me. That also explains all those fan art prices. So is Elsa gonna fuck the fire princess or will they retcon Ana to be her adopted sister?

>>92057128
Anon everyone knows there's absolutely no way in hell Disney will make Elsa gay. They care a lot more about the worldwide audience who bought their kids $7bn worth of Frozen merch than they do about the sjws who hit reblog in order to seem progressive, but who won't pay for tickets, won't buy heaps of merch, and who acknowledge that making Elsa gay would piss off the "homophobic parents who'd have to let their kids see Frozen 2, hahaha". Like even the people trying to push for gay Elsa openly admit it would make the core cashcow audience segment, the parents buying stuff for their kids, angry af, and this outrage is actually a big part of why they want Elsa to be gay.

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>>92054446
I keep thinking they are going to fuck this up by introducing more magic people in here somewhere.

Latina fire princess is probably coming at some point

i'm just waiting for a proper snow queen adaptation

all the russian versions sucked.

I hope we see Elsa's feet

>>92057667
Most likely Elsa will fuck either Hans or a new male love interest.

I never got a feeling of it being gay at all, it's just about how fear fucks people over in various ways and daring to be oneself, which is a universal theme.

Of course if someone's been struggling with being in the closet, everything about "be who you are" will seem like an allegory about being gay to them

>>92057176
But this happens each and every time Disney shits in a box anyway. They always take the most crap from each and every corner of the political spectrum.

>Religious nuts hate how the main characters do "magic" which only teaches kids satanism
>Progressive weirdos hate any concept of a princess because it pushes gender roles
>Feminists hate princesses and women who are not ass kicking badasses
>Right wingers will proclaim it to be anti family values and anti American regardless of any content
>PETA hate it when a character eats meat on screen
>Animal rights people will protest the goofy animal sidekick being comically hurt on screen as promoting animal cruelty
>Parents groups will claim it holds super secret hidden messages that coerce children into being gay homosexuals

>>92057539

Which is a shame, because I actually really liked Big Hero 6, and I'd love for Disney to make more animated films with Mervel properties.

>>92057539
>it's bigger hit even than Lion King, the wanted to tap more from the Marvel with BH6 but it didn't quite work out.
See, Disney had made film sequels for decades, but mostly straight to video. The only thing that made sense is the Pixar department with the Toystory creed. "Disney sequel" just isn't a proven thing, and never had been.

It would take a 2nd miracle for Frozen 2 to be good. The 1st miracle being Frozen 1.

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>>92054446
I am. I hope it's as good as the first one. Hopefully the amount of time it's taken until the release date is an indication that they are putting some effort into a sequel, rather than just cranking out a product.

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>>92054446
Yeah it probably spark me to get a Disney pass again so I can get more shit signed.

>>92057060
I honestly hope Helsa happens simply because if we're gonna have a shitstorm, it may as well be a category 5.

>>92058239
>I honestly hope Helsa happens simply because if we're gonna have a shitstorm, it may as well be a category 5.
Shitstorm of a minority is better than shitstorm of the paying majority. The ones paying for tickets and buying merchandise are the ones who matter. Anyone who just complain on the internet have no right to dictate anything.

>>92058207
I would be a ice trooper in evil Elsas' army so fast.

>>92058151
>It would take a 2nd miracle for Frozen 2 to be good
Whether it's good or not doesn't matter. It just needs to make them money which it will. Being good would just be an extra bonus.

>>92058342
>Whether it's good or not doesn't matter. It just needs to make them money which it will. Being good would just be an extra bonus.
Well they could have made more safe money by making it straight to video like literally every other sequel. Lionking2, Aladdin2, etc.

But actually making Frozen 2 a MAINLINE film? That's a risk.

>>92058516
It being a theatrical film is a ruse to make people think it will be better than the direct to video ones plus it will get more attention that way.

$20 for a dvd versus $50 for a family of four to see it in theaters.

>>92056977
freezing doesn't kill the toxic shit created by bacteria, thawing creates a really moist environment for bacteria growth.

>>92058516
It can definitely be seen as one. Sequels almost always make more money than their predecessors regardless of quality because you have the people who already like it on top of the people advertising gets in the seats, you start with money already made.

The issue with Frozen is that it made such a boatload of money because of a lot of specific circumstances that likely won't be recreated. Namely, it stayed in theaters for a god damn loooooong time with barely any competition in its market. That allowed word of mouth and its growing popularity to get more and more people to go see it.

Now that it's already super popular of course it will smash the opening weekend since there's a lot more vested interest into it, but the longevity I think is something that isn't likely to be duplicated. Which means the people who aren't really movie-goers, or are busy for the short run its in theaters will likely miss out. Especially if it's doesn't capture the hype the original had by being worse or simply by the audience having a "been there, done that" attitude if it's very similar.

I don't think it'll get as much money since Frozen was a god damn fluke that stumbled its way through so many beneficial circumstances. This means some are gonna consider it a failure because of this. Especially since the budget and advertising will likely be much, much higher.

>>92058601
>$20 for a dvd versus $50 for a family of four to see it in theaters.
But it would meant doubling or tripping what a straight to DVD film would cost.

I know what you mean. Disney is trying to have their own Toystory 2. But the issue is that Pixar actually made a good film intentionally, and thus knew how to make a worthy sequel. Disney must have seen both Marvel Studios and Pixar make bank with major sequels and felt "we can do this shit too! How hard can it be?"

>>92054446

I am still bummed out. Frozen would have looked so much better if it wasn't 3d animated.

I'm sort of concerned with how production might be going behind the scenes, honestly. Here we have Wreck it Ralph 2 with plot information and even some promo images already set up, but we haven't heard anything about Frozen 2 other than that it's a thing even though we've known about it way longer.

>>92058151
BUT FROZEN WAS NEVER GOOD.

>>92058868
i remember the crew went to som sumi.. suomi.. some north tribe to study their culture

>>92058932
>BUT FROZEN WAS NEVER GOOD.
You don't have to like it for it to be good. It has critical acclaim and box office success. These two combined makes it good. You are still allowed to hate it if you want.

>>92059017
hate?
nah, it's mediocre, people know it's just a lil girl's movie with Disney Quality Seal.

>>92059107
>hate?
>nah, it's mediocre, people know it's just a lil girl's movie with Disney Quality Seal.
You can try to claim mediocrity, but that wouldn't stick. You have the right to your opinion but the market disagrees with you.

Moana is what is considered mediocre. Not bad, but not interesting enough for sequel talks.

>>92058868
>>92058949
The crew went to various locations in Lapland (Norway + Finland) to visit the Sami and get to know their culture and traditions. The Norwegian public broadcasting corporation made a piece about it iirc, they visited a lot of Sami museums or such and were introduced to various aspects of Sami culture incl trad dress, livelihoods, music, reindeerherding and traditions in general. I think there was a quote about wanting to do things right.

So I'm guessing Kristoff will feature somewhat heavily and they don't want to shit all over indigenous cultures, so they went to talk to the Sami about how to portray a Sami dude

Maybe we'll FINALLY get to hear Groff sing properly

>>92059200

that movie should be about Maui. but sidekick princess is a big no-no nowadays.

>>92059243
or it will boil down to one quote like they did with zootopia and moana (10 to 1 and "land and sea are one" )

>>92058749
The Rescuers Down Under, which is the only time they've tried to do a proper theatrical release sequel, is pretty good

>>92058239
Honestly I'm hoping for the opposite and that Hans isn't even mentioned. /co/ has such a boner for Hans they'll have fucking fit over their redemption headcanon not happening.

>>92057428
You're looking in the wrong place...

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>>92059243
>Sami


so that's where the baba yaga's hut came from

>>92058239
I would love it so much if Helsa happens, the sjws and #makeelsagay stans and elsannafags would all screech about what a huge disappointment it is that a Disney Princess Musical has straight romance and try to arrange for boycotts or whatever, swearing Disney made a mistake, they lost the pink dollars now, they'd have made boatloads of money if only they'd have pandered to the progressives but noo - and then the movie ends up being a huge-ass success and loads of people love the straight romance and Helsa merch sells well. Just because I'm so fed up with the "Disney won't risk angering the sjws they'd lose money" argument

I mean the most popular frozen ship was Jack Frost x Elsa iirc. A lot of people are lowkey eager to ship Elsa with a man, almost any man as long as it's romantic

>>92057838
I'm not gay but I knew friends who struggled with their identity

>>92059376
Santino Fontana mentioned in an interview like half a year before Frozen 2 got confirmed that the writers had told him they "have an idea" and "want to bring you back and redeem you". Jen Lee has also said she considers Hans to be a tragic character and the product of growing up without love. Also the Frozen Fever short specifically went through the trouble of including Hans and showing a map displaying the Southern Isles right next to Arendelle .

It's quite likely he'll be back. Not 100% certain, but it's likely

>>92059426
It used to be the right one. Why wasn't I informed by post where you'd migrated? Inconsiderate desu

>>92059718
>Also the Frozen Fever short specifically went through the trouble of including Hans and showing a map displaying the Southern Isles right next to Arendelle
That was just a gag, anon. I'll give you the other points but please don't look that deeply into a fucking gag.

Kind of a related question, what's up with all those youtube cosplauers cashing in making Frozen videos? Why hasn't Disney sued them or shut them down?

I actually enjoy watching the less cancerous ones...

>>92054446
Only if it has Hans the man in it.

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>all this talk of romance for Fro2en
Why can't these two just go on a journey to light the first flame or usher in the age of dark?

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I love her.

>>92060332
It was pretty specific worldbuilding though. We hadn't seen a map of anything even in the movie itself, and then they slapped one in the short, one that's curiously close to an irl location save a peninsula having bern removed, Arendelle's location even pretty close to the Norwegian city of Arendal.

It may have also been a gag, but at the same time it was a hefty chunk of canon worldbuilding. It'd be weird to point out that look the Southern Isles are RIGHT THERE and then not have the sequel to do anything with it. If they wanted to just have a gag of Hans falling into some crap they could have easily accomplished that without any map shots

>>92057716
This is pretty much it. I trust in Disney's greed far more than... well, anything.

>>92057838
But the "be who you are" allegory didn't make a lick of sense in Frozen, because Elsa was a whiny NEET whose angst was acutely dangerous for thousands of people. Nobody in their right mind should be accepting of that.

>>92059376
He was the most compelling character in the movie until the retarded tweest shat the bed.

>>92063700
It's Disney though. And apparently the people were very accepting of her as soon as she learned that love is the answer or whatever

here's how to make a frozen sequel:

work twice as hard on the soundtrack, start working on making songs before you even have a script, try to top let it go.

THEN

make everything else around the songs

all people remember about the damn movie is LET IT GO and the other songs, the rest of it was weak ass shit except if you have twincest boners, you have to make this LET IT GO 2.

>>92054446
Hopefully Elsanna is endgame

>>92064493
Very funny anon

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>>92054446

>More Frozen Porn Comics
>More Frozen SFM Porn
>More Frozen NSFW Porn Fanart
>More Frozen Lesbian Incest Porn Fanart

Yes, I am excited

>>92054446
I'm cautiously pessimistic. Frozen was a shockingly fun movie, but I have a tough time believing they'll recapture the magic. I'm hoping I can eat crow, though.

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>>92060320
Sorry. I don't we're allowed to mention that OTHER chan around here.

http://(4times2)ch dot net/frz/index dot html

>>92059718
Hans shows up in Frozen Fever? Now I have to watch it

>>92065879
Oh Infinity? I should have figured, doesn't feel the same. I've never cared much for it

>>92065970
It's basically one entire song. He's there but it's not like he has a huge role

>>92057539
>the wanted to tap more from the Marvel with BH6 but it didn't quite work out
Then they should take the hint and make a god damn 2D comic book movie that has an actually interesting plot.

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>>92057783
lmao at your shit taste

>>92058686
>This means some are gonna consider it a failure because of this
As long as one of those people is a Disney exec I'll be happy

>>92058760
my dude.
It really shows when you look at the merch with 2D stuff there.
Between Disney's remaking every movie into a VFX shitfest and the state of major studios in the US, the only animated movies I look forward to nowadays are all European.

>>92054446
Only if there is Electric Boogaloo.

>>92063815
The twist that Hans was lying the whole time is what made him interesting. Without it, he was just another generic, boring, nice guy Disney prince.

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I'm only excited for quality content

>>92057716
I disagree. When Ellen came out on her sitcom (which aired on ABC--owned by Disney at the time), that one episode had 42 million viewers. It also got her on the cover of Time Magazine. If it had been a movie, it would've generated at least $300 million in ticket sales in unadjusted dollars. This was 20 years ago in a much, much more homophobic world.

By comparison, 2017's Beauty and the Beast was announced as having a gay character from the get-go and given an adult rating in several countries, yet has generated $1,144,002,745 to date worldwide in ticket sales alone. That's for a live action remake that doesn't even have any new content.

Disney could make Elsa gay as a way to renew interest in an existing franchise. It would actually make sense to add a new female character that kids can buy merchandise of.

>Frozen general coming back

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4jH0WeV67I

Here comes Elsanna!

Does anyone have those super cute OFFICIAL Elsanna comics?

ELSAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Does anybody actually take Elsanna seriously? I heard stories about it but I find it hard to believe that there are autists out there that seriously want it to be canon

>>92068116
Dude, it already is canon. Just want for someone to post those official comics of it.

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>>92067234
>Taking the Mouse's bait
MFW

>>92067941
not sure which one you mean specifically but you can check here: http://frzstorytimes.imgur.com/

>>92069102
>http://frzstorytimes.imgur.com/
Nice! Thanks. Hopefully, it's there.

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>>92068116

brought to you by Disney.

>>92069609
>every instance of love must be romantic/sexual
baka

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>>92069797
No, you're right, bro. The way they look into each other's eyes is totally platonic.

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>>92067388
>It would actually make sense to add a new female character

What the fuck? We don't want a new female character. It's Elsa and Anna and no one else.

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>>92054446
Yeah

For the surge in porn, that is

>>92069879
Beauty and the beast is PG, dumbass. Legend of Korra is Y7.

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>>92069879
>Elsa is THE single most popular Disney Princess in all of existence

That's because she's in love with her sister and we love it, dumbass.

>>92057176
Disney just has to think about their legacy. If they don't do Elsanna, in 100 years, Frozen will be lost to history. If they do Elsanna, forget about 100 years. In a thousand years, in ten thousand years, Frozen will be celebrated as humanity's original and greatest lesbian OTP.

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>>92054446
>they delayed Gigantic, but this shit is still full steam ahead
I know it was to be expected, but my anger is still very real.

>>92054446
Nope.
I prefer it when they make new stuff instead. Haven't even watched the extra tangled thing they released.


Not looking forward to Elsa getting blacked either.

>>92054446

The more and more I see Elsa, the more she looks like an alien.

>>92054446
its been years and I still occasionally dream about elsa hugging me and having loving lesbian sex with her

>>92064597
We all know they're meant to be together

>>92057418
>Elsa, the popular princess, gets her dress's sleeves shortened, embued with flowers, & colored an unsightly green color to accessorize her sister.
>Anna, who struggles to sell because she's a fucking character trainwreck, gets three new dresses

Is Disney retarded? Why are they still trying to push Anna?

>>92071793

Gigantic is the next Tangled, it will be delayed till all these sequels will stop making money, in other words when they wil start putting effort in their movies again.

>>92058239
Hans is cool, but he literally tried to murder Elsa and take over the kingdom. Leaving Anna (bestgirl) for dead why would Disney redeem him? His entire character is that you should be careful/thoughtful. That ice loving faggot kristoff is a better pick

>>92060332
To take ANY amount of time in a short just to include a character is significant. Oaken sang, albeit just half a verse for fanservice. Hans returned too, likely for audiences to get some "justice", but regardless, he appeared. Notice how neither the Duke of Weselton nor the trolls made an appearance anywhere- & you'd think that the trolls would be all over their designated royal baby-making machine on a day of celebration.

Disney made a point of featuring Oaken & Hans but never bothered with the trolls. What does this mean..?

>>92075236
Because she and Elsa are meant to be together.

>>92075424
I'm afraid you're mistaken. Anna is worst girl to come out of Disney & she deserved to die alone after how she behaved.

>>92075505
So you're saying Frozen 2 need some Annademption? And at the end of the movie Elsa takes her back and they kiss?

>>92075505
It's been a while since I've seen it. Why do people hate anna? Maybe I just like redheads too much

>>92075565
More like Annavelopment. Like, have her be the opposite of Elsa where she finds that trying to hold everyone together close to her can be as dangerous as isolation. She needs to learn that it,0's okay to be alone. Basically, don't depend on others to entertain yourself.

And throw some fucking real responsibility her direction too. What the fuck does she do all day while her sister & bf work?

>>92075601
She's NOT a redhead for fuck's sake! What makes people think that?

Even if she was a redhead, she'd be a a lousy one. There's already a red-haired, pinktail braided Anne in pop culture.

>>92054446
If this is out in 2019 I guess we'll see Zootopia 2 in 2020

>>92069609
>>92069984
There is nothing sexual in loving your family, people who believe in elsanna are poor little bastars who were enver loved by their families

>>92075668
lolwut? get your eyes checked.

>>92061244
Answer me you rancid swines

>>92065970
He gets hit with a snowball and lands ob horse shit

>>92076227
Maybe you should watch the film & look at the clipart.

Yeah, her hair tends to be ambiguous, but most of the time she's blonde. She looks atrocious with red hair.

>>92076061
No one is saying Frozen 2 should be a porno, idiot.

>>92075496
>>92075565
>>92073361
It's kinda amusing yet scary how utterly deluded elsannafags are. They've circlejerked each other into thinking they're totally interpreting the movie the way it's "meant" to be interpreted, stealth canon, Disney totally knows what it's doing, all that.

Honestly I can't wait for canon to happily marry both sisters off to men and have an eventual heartwarming sequel about their kids, though elsannafags would probably still insist that because the sisters aren't screaming at each other and throwing plates it totally means they're gay for each other.

Mainly it's just depressing they're kinda shitting on the lovely main message if the film - that love doesn't need to be romantic to be strong and true. According to elsannafags, all love must always be sexual. Sad.

>>92077015
That's what the sequel needs! An actual fight incited by friction between the sisters' personalities!

>>92068116
They take it seriously, dude.
They try to pretend they're just memeing when people point out how insanely deranged you have to be to believe for a moment Disney would ever for a second seriously entertain pushing lesbian sibling incest in their preschooler-targeted movies, but they believe it.

They try to spam their delusions everywhere in an attempt to make it true, or at least to make it seem like "everyone" interpreted the movie the same way, "we all know" how it is, look at this merch where they're smiling at each other it's intentional I swear. It's weird, usually when people ship crackships that everyone knows can't and won't ever become canon because it's just so ridiculous, people accept it, but elsannafags are trying to meme their crackship into being plausible through persistently insisting it's true

>>92077091
>but elsannafags are trying to meme their crackship into being plausible through persistently insisting it's true
You can't blame them for trying, plenty of people seem to be ready to believe lies if it is repeated often enough. They are just imitating what everyone else is doing.

>>92067388
>Disney could totally suddenly turn gay their hugely popular princess character who's been marketed to kids worldwide for half a decade as straight, because an irl person whose show was targeted at adults came out and wasn't ostracized, and also because a live-action movie had an insignificant gay side character

You're actually serious, aren't you, you poor soul

I'm sorry Frozen 2 will crush your hopes, but it's kinda your own fault for letting yourself think Disney would ever piss off parents, reject profits and permawreck their family friendly reputation with a bait-and-switch like that

Oh boy, I can't wait for countless threads with nothing but porn covering the fact that it'll probably be their weakest modern film after the first one.

>>92077091
>Disney pushing lesbian sibling incest

You're the delusional one trying to pretend that Disney's target audience is religious fundamentalists. I got news for you. Walt Disney is dead. They don't make movies for the KKK anymore. They don't make movies for ISIS.

You are also wrong to say they would be "pushing" it. Elsanna is perhaps the most natural ship of all time. It's all but canon already as evidenced by official Disney comics. >>92069609 We ask only that Disney not forget this as they write Frozen 2.

>Wreck It Ralph 2
>Frozen 2

wake me up when Zootopia 2 will be announced.

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>>92054601

It went dead a long ass time ago. The guy who ran it said something about being selfish, and not wanting to hand the site over to anyone else to run, but that he was also not interested in running it anymore so he just let it die.

>>92077335
>I never saw any sisters or close female relatives in my life: the post

>>92077335
>if you don't think gay sibling incest is wonderful content for small kids and something Disney will totally do you're a religious fundie and also a fucking racist nazi and probably a member of the ISIS
>gay sibling incest is natural! Just look at the official content it's practically canon!

I told y'all elsannafags truly are insane. They went too deep in their circlejerking and lost touch with reality.
It's not canon and never will be. They love each other in a nonromantic, familial way, and will find other romantic partners. Disney doesn't owe shit to incest shippers believing they're a significant audience segment - shit, if anything the more noise people make of Elsa being gay or the sisters' affection supposedly being suspect, the more likely it is the mouse will marry them both off to men to play it safe

>>92077852
Go ahead and show me some sisters or close female relatives going on romantic carriage rides together a la >>92069984

>>92077091
Hey, if you meme something hard enough, people will eventually start going along with it. Assuming the have weak personalities. That's how Hubbard started his cult, by lying his ass off.

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>>92077218

The only good thing came from frozen was Porn though

>>92078082
>>92078082

You wanna talk about lost touch with reality? You are the one who is conflating real life siblings with a cartoon. Guess what. Elsa and Anna aren't real, nor are they an endorsement of "gay sibling incest". They are an endorsement of love.

>>92078132
I've gone on rides with my mom and hug all my relatives incl my brother a lot and tell them I love them.

If I'd spent the last decade in crushing loneliness and isolation and had thought I'd killed the only living family member I had and would then have miraculously found myself having a family member who I can spend time with and hug without accidentally instakilling them I'd probably be extremely affectionate too.

The nonromantic love between the sisters was the high point of the movie; the "revelation" that true love doesn't only mean romantic love. That nonromantic love that turned out to be the real true love that saved the day is the big thing in the movie so obviously it features in the merch. "of course, love!"

If you honestly think that because the merch then naturally plays on themes of love and the 2 main characters it MUST mean it's romantic, even though the movie was so blatant about "you think true love means romantic love but you're wrong", I don't know what to say. I'm sorry if you can't imagine love existing outside romance.

>>92066470
childhood crush

>>92078301
Don't be a fucking clown. I specifically asked to see close female relatives going on a romantic carriage ride while holding hands and having vicious eye sex as the comic shows.

All you have given me is "Well, I've been on a carriage ride before where I kept my hands to myself, but then at a different time I hugged them, and I say "love you" every morning when I leave the house..." That's not even fucking close, kid, and that's the best you've got? You who claims to have a loving family, I suppose I should thank you for proving my point.

>>92058634
endotoxins aren't destroyed by anything but heat; endotoxins are only released when bacteria are lysed/busted open.

Bacterial growth isn't an issue if things are frozen and then thawed; none of the strains with common hazardous endotoxins can't survive the thawing.

>>92054446

Nah, Frozen is overrated as all fuck and there's just about zero chance of the sequel implementing the only cool part of it, the idea that Elsa was originally supposed to be the villain.

If instead of a sequel we got the original version of the script as an alternate universe type movie, _then_ I might be excited.

I finally sat down and watched it for the first time last week and wow I must be out of touch because I can't figure out why this took off so hard.

Moana was way better.

>>92078809
You watch too much anime, bro. Yuri is brand new to Americans.

>>92078809

>let it go earworm
>two princesses
>Americans were trapped in cinemas because snowstorms
>Japan loves pale people
>Elsa the horrible role model for women
>not annoying sidekick.
That's about it.

>>92069984

Okay that last panel is just straight up lust. There's no way to argue that that's sisterly anything, that's just straight up the "I'm going to fuck you inside-out" look.

>>92078921
Okay I could maybe understand most of those (except wow no wonder people talk about Let It Go, the other songs suck) but
>>not annoying sidekick.
Are you talking about someone other than Olaf?

>>92078921
>Olaf
>not annoying

>>92078408
>of course they're romantic because family members never go on carriage rides or hug or tell each other they love them
>well actually we do t anon
>shut up it doesn't count where is the proof of vicious eye sex huh
You've been talking to several anons, and it's hilarious how angry you're getting and also how much you're overinterpreting expressions in a comic

It never stops being amusing how butthurt elsannafags get when people disagree with their delusions about disney intentionally pushing canon gay sibling incest to kids.

>>92078921

Olaf was incredibly fucking annoying.

>>92079003
>overinterpreting expressions in a comic

I'm sorry, but no, there is NO way to interpret that expression other than "I will fuck you half dead once we get home" and if you're ever given that look to your sister, you fucked five minutes later or you're lying.

>>92077477
Not dead, just moved.

>>92079003
It's laughable for you to suggest that "romantic carriage rides A LA >>92069984" translates to "go on carriage rides or hug or tell each other they love them". Do you understand what "a la >>92069984" means? It means "exactly as you see it in the comic", which means at the very least a romantic carriage ride AND cuddling AND hand holding AND intimate eye contact at the same time.

What is hilarious is how hard you're both trying to underinterpret the comics and overinterpret them. First, you underinterpret by saying there is nothing out of the ordinary in the comic. Then after I make you look silly and force you to accept that the comics show abnormal behavior, you start overinterpreting by pulling shit out of your ass about how their plainly lustful gaze is supposed to be some kind of avant garde symbol of nonromantic love. Please, dude.

Meanwhile, all I am doing is pointing out what is clearly in the comics.

By the way, why don't you just admit that you're a right wing idiot already? You show the same conspiratorial, family values, think-of-the-children fear mongering mindset as every other conservative, fundamentalist clown. Elsanna has nothing to do with any of that.

>>92054446
For those just joining us, the thread has averted into delusional Elsannafags seriously believe it's canon thread.

>>92054446
I just want more Frozen porn

>>92069609
>>92069984
Why is it always Elsa doing shit for Anna?

>>92080785

Because Elsa was a terrible goddamn sister for like a decade or so and now she's trying to make up for it.

>>92080875
But Anna hasn't done shit for her other than defend Elsa from Hans.

Better have Hansdemption

>>92059243
If they went through all that trouble of getting the Saami culture correct, how come they fucked it up in every conceivable way?
Saamis aren't fucking blond, nor blue eyed, nor have anything to do with ice cutting industry. The one reindeer and the colors/pattern of his clothes was probably the only thing they got right. He could have been any kind of scandi but saami for all we know.

>>92083077

because it wasnt about Saami culture, but their own version of Snow Queen.

>>92054446
No.

>>92083077
Kristoff has brown eyes.

>>92054601
I remember that place (summer 2015), i'm still looking for that .gif that admin had of his iPhone of when he swiped his lock screen of Elsa. I wonder what happened to thst guy.

>>92078265
Is that Capt. Picard in the lower right of thst pic..?

>>92083077
It's Disney, you fucking clown. They fuck up every ethnic example. Look at Moana for example..

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Best girl in Frozen.

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>>92054446

I am fully hype.

>>92054446
Yes. White girls age 6-11

>>92083077
Homie, I hate to tell you this, but the Saami are some of the whitest native people on Earth nowadays. There are plenty of blonde Saami people, and like another anon mentioned, Kristoph's eyes are brown.

As for the ice cutting industry thing, well, I don't know what to tell you about that. It could've easily just been his specific tribe that was really invested in that. They need to make money somehow.

There's a lot of things wrong with Frozen, but I'm getting tired of this bawling about the Saami from people who probably have never seen a Saami person outside of a portrait from two thousand years ago.

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>>92086451
Forgot my pic.

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>>92054446
Frozen is almost 4 years old...................how did time pass so quickly. It feels like 2013 was yesterday.

>>92083077
>Saamis aren't fucking blond, nor blue eyed
Yes they are though, or can be. I know tumblr was spreading this bullshit edit if "how the sami should look like", but it's actually fucking atrocious how far it was from actual sami, it looked like some had never even bothered to Google how the sami look like and just decided that since the word "indigenous" is used they must be tan, and had just invented up this fictional fucking hybrid between an Indian and an Inuit. Which is incredibly harmful to the actual sami whose identity and ethnicity got mangled through misinformation just because some american sjws felt like shitting on Disney.

The sami look and are pretty white. And no, it's not because of interbreeding, even legit anthropological photos showcasing the race from the 1800s show them with light hair and blue eyes. White people didn't descend from space, you know, they're indigenous in northern Europe.

Disney's Kristoff is a lot closer to how the sami actually are than any of the imaginary bullshit I've seen sjws pull.

>>92080785
She feels guilty over having frozen her to death

>>92086601
yeah, and all these years you wasted on anonymous cartoon forum

/frz/ was fun!

>>92086876
But that doesn't explain why Anna just sits there in amazement. Elsa skates a heart, Elsa makes it snow for Anna, Elsa sculpts ice for Anna, but fuck if Anna gets off her ass to entertain Elsa.

It would be great if the film showed Elsa's gratitude/guilt running thin. Anna's a total fuckup, so it better affect Elsa to the point that she bites Anna.

>>92054446
Can /co/ have /frz/ general back now?

>>92059200
The market's taste doesn't correlate quality, only popularity.

>>92087022
It's kinda jarring to see someone call it that rather than "clandestine mongolian tapestry forum" or something.

>>92083077
>have anything to do with ice cutting industry

Where did they imply that? Kristoff is the only Saami in the entire movie and he doesn't cut ice because of his culture, he cuts ice because it's his fucking job.

>>92057237
and marketable to both the young and lonely demographics

i work with kids at my job and it was "let it go" 24/7 for two years. they are finally, finally getting bored of it. please don't let this movie have any catchy songs.

>>92087819

Not possible. The board-level memory of it is still too fresh.

>>92067361
This

>>92087806
Yeah i hope the sequel deals a bit with Elsa's trauma and guilt and possibly any negative emotions she's been subduing due to said guilt

would rather have a Tangled 2, but I'll make do with the new tv series

Can't be any worse than the first. More Frozen porn though, yay.

>>92054446
Fro2en

>>92077477
that picture brings back memories

>>92089501
I feel like Elsa's going to lose it eventually when she really feels like a pushover.

>>92089976
Yes, and then >>92075565 happens.

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I can't wait for my Queen to come back!

I am in love with Elly!!!

>>92073167
Anna pls

>>92054446
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pspna5GZwBk

>>92075626
>while her sister & bf work?

bf? whose bf? wtf are you talking about?

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>>92057237
Single? She looks pretty taken to me, bro.

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>>92092306
Glad to see that the official Frozen media still makes this relevant

>>92087869
>The market's taste doesn't correlate quality, only popularity.
Your tastes don't determine quality. Critical acclaim does. And Frozen got critical acclaim so it IS quality.

>>92054446
No. Fuck that shit.

>>92092156
BF as in Boyfriend as in Kristoff

>>92092773
Anna's boyfriend? That's not canon, is it?

The interesting thing about Frozen was how it wasn't immediate success, I remember reading people's reactions during first few days of it's run and they mostly said it's mediocre, then about a week later I've noticed that everbody is talking about it

>>92093278
Kristoff confessed his love to Anna in that not-quite-a-hit song, er, short.

>>92094258
Oh, but that's all that happened, right? Good. Then as to the matter of that guy being Anna's BF in the next movie, I rule NOT CANON.

However, perhaps a few dates with that guy can serve as the perfect vehicle for Anna to realize that really she's in love with Elsa.

>The Incredibles 2
>Wreck It Ralph 2
That's fine but what about
>Toy Story 4
>Minions 2
>Sing 2
>Despicable Me 3
>Frozen 2
>Secret Life of Pets 2
>Trolls 2
>How To Train Your Dragon 3
>Shrek 5
>Madagascar 4
>Puss in Boots 2
>Cars 3
WHY THE FUCK SO MANY SEQUELS?
Who the fuck wants these movies anyway?

>>92094761
>WHY THE FUCK SO MANY SEQUELS?
>Who the fuck wants these movies anyway?
Little kids screaming at their parents.

For example, my sister bought Cars2 for her son, who watches it on the ipad when ever possible. It is something that my sister use to keep the kid still and entertained when she is doing something else.

Traditionally these sequels were straight-to-video. But a recent lack of new properties and the desire for safe investments, meant moneymen are paying for sequels with a known audience.

>>92086601
i graduated in 2013.................FUCK!

>>92094568
Your head is so far up your ass that gay men are jealous.

Are people in this thread seriously claiming that Anna is more incompetent than Elsa?

> Spends 2 decades trying and failing to control her ice powers
> Whoops I froze my whole kingdom
> Better run away to hide in the mountains! Queen? Responsibility? Noblesse Oblige? Ha, as if!
> Whoops I just shot ice magic at my sister. Better throw her out instead of making sure she's okay or anything.
> I created a snow golem for the express purpose of defending and isolating myself. Too bad it can get defeated by a single guy with a sword.
> Oh, look I got dragged back to my kingdom in chains where I can see how badly I have fucked up everything for everyone. Better TRY TO RUN AWAY. AGAIN. BECAUSE THAT WILL HELP.

>>92095284
Winning the debate doesn't mean my head is up my ass. It means I'm right.

>>92054446
I garantee that the love interest will be the total inverse of Elsa. A super low class homeless dude with fire powers beloved by his village over the warmth he gives them.

Fucking bet on it.

>>92094761

>Incredibles 2.

Too late. Fifteen years too late.

also to answer your question:
Creativity is dead

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>>92089897
Made it before /frz/ was killed off of /co/. There were a few more images I could have added since there were so many memes that came out of those /frz/ threads.

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>>92054446
Whether or not it's good, I'm not looking forward to /frz/ coming back.

>>92094761
Sequels make money, dude. That's why they keep making them. For example
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_highest-grossing_animated_films

Note how many movies in the top 20 highest-grossing animations are sequels.
Note, then, how often the sequels make more money than the first movie.

Despicable Me (Minions), Ice Age, Shreck, Kung fu Panda, Madagasgar - it's like if you've gone to the trouble of creating the characters and the setting you really should crank out some sequels because that's where the real profits lie, and Disney is finally waking up to that

>>92097491
That sounds like her antithesis, but opposites do not necessarily attract. Besides, Disney intended for Anna to be the polar opposite of Elsa (didn't work out) & Anna's already with a working-class homeless dude.

>>92098528
Plus sequels are almost always guaranteed successes. It's low-risk, which makes stockholders happy.

>>92054446
I hope the story's better paced than the last one.

Since the first film focused on Anna, I guess the next would focus on Elsa?

>>92095541
Elsa is absolutely and irredeemably shit. Anna was a bit dumb, but at least she had some notion of responsibility and was willing to take action to try and fix things.

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>>92098448
What would be the big deal if it did come back? It's one thread in the catalog which you could easily ignore. It's not like they ever started spamming other threads on /co/.

>>92096653
Also, Anna kissed him. And enjoyed it to a sexual degree.

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Why do people ship these two siblings so much? And why is Anna always the aggressive top?

>>92098590
Taking responsibility? Fuck Anna. She didn't take responsibility for things that were in her own hands & had to get others to do the actual fixing.

>>92057716
>sjws don't buy or otherwise financially support their interests

Holy shit really? Any sauce on that?

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>>92057202
This! To be honest I'm mostly in it for the merch. As long as the merch is good I'll be happy!

>>92094568
Ah, elsannafags and their "they're not together, Kristoff is just a good friend" constructions.

What will you do when they get engaged, I wonder?

>>92098540
The only other option Would be for her to end up with some winter snow god. Do laplanders even have a winter deity?

>>92098669
I know a lot of SJWs pirate to rebel against capitalist pigs. They still buy some merch, but not quite in droves like the target demographic. Though SJWs seem like a growing population because of how loud & obnoxious they are, they are still overshadowed by actual little girls.

You could either attempt to please the unpleasable, or write something entertaining for the masses.

I feel like giving Elsa getting a boy/girlfriend would get in the way of Frozen's true core theme: Sisterly love. Excessive amounts of sisterly love. Remember how much of a third wheel Kristoph was? He was basically a convenient plot device for Anna.

The problem with having romance in a story that doesn't actually have that romance as a prominent part of its plot is that unless it's written by a REALLY good writer, it can feel tacked on. Anna's relationship with Kristoph felt like it only existed so that it could cause Anna to misunderstand the troll's words. Like in the climax, Anna had to either choose Kristoph (which she assumed would save her), or choose to save Elsa. But there was never a choice to begin with. The only reason there was a choice was because Kristoph happened to be there. Had he not, the choice would have been even easier and nothing else would have changed.

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>>92098792
Oh anon, you're forgetting the obvious choice...

>>92098642
She was the one who was forced to deal with the kingdom when she was still a kid. Meanwhile, Elsa was too busy doing nothing and feeling sorry for herself. Anna was the one who repeatedly tried to repair their relationship and once again, Elsa never did anything in return. Kingdom gets frozen? Anna is the one who tries to fix it, while the one who fucking caused the whole mess runs away and sings retarded songs about how great it is to be yourself.

I honestly don't recall a worse """"positive""""" character than Elsa in all Disney movies.

>>92098839
Dating your sister's crazy ex? Listen I know Elsa's thirsty but come on...

>>92098528
Okay I can't find a single instance of the first movie being the most profitable in a franchise

It's like if there's sequels made, they make more money than the first one as a rule. Even fucking Rio 2 sold more than Rio. Maybe if they milk the franchise for 3+ sequels they won't sell as much but still.

Frozen 2 is gonna become the highest-grossing animated movie of all time, isn't it

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>>92098637
Good times

>>92098826
Anna spent more screentime with Kristoff than Elsa. Elsa spent more screentime with Hans than Anna.

>>92098839
who else /helsa/ here

>>92098590
Anna is the main cause of things going to shit, however. She's "willing to take action" but doesn't think about the consequences of her actions. Elsa had managed to stay in some sort of control of her powers till now, but it's the public scene Anna raised that revealed her and forced her to flee, starting the winter.

She also froze Anna's heart because Anna AGAIN pushed and provoked her till her powers lashed out even when she was trying to get some distance to calm down

>>92098901
Not the issue. It's not really about how much time is spent on what, but what ties into the core plot. The core conflict is: Elsa temporarily loses control of her power, runs away and decides to close herself off from the world. Anna has to go on a journey to get her back. That's the main goal of the first half. In the second half, there's an additional goal added where Anna needs to save herself from the ice curse.

Kristoph has no real bearing on any of that, beyond being Anna's valet because she'd have probably froze to death before she even reached Elsa otherwise. In other words, Kristoph's primary role was as a satellite to Anna, as well as a convenient plot device that allowed her to do things that she normally wouldn't be capable of. However, his relationship to the core story is thin, since he only exchanges words with Elsa like once. Elsa is the core conflict, and Kristoph is the only main character who has nothing to do with that. His importance essentially ends once Anna returns to the castle since his usefulness ends there.

>>92098843
What kingdom as a kid?

Anna wouldn't let a relationship die when it should have been clear the first month Elsa wasn't interested. Frankly she's retarded for hanging on to "how things were" back when she was five & Elsa was eight.

Anna had to ask for Elsa, Kristoff's, & Hans's help to actually do anything. Anna did not lift the winter; Elsa did all of that.

>>92098601
holy shit that image

>>92098923
Why? Fucking the lescest makes more sense than that.

Hell Elsa fucking jack Frost makes more sense than that.

Elsa cucking Anna with Kristoph makes more sense than that.

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>>92057716
>sjws don't buy or otherwise financially support their interests

That's not 100% true. Some of them did show support for that all female Ghostbusters film.
>image very related.
There just aren't enough blue haired SJWs for a film to turn into a blockbuster success or join the billion dollar club.

>>92099036
You are correct, but Kristoff was there to fulfill the requirement of the Disney Princess getting the hunk at the end. He was also a red herring as a cure for the curse.

>>92098826
Yeah, I think that's why they're apparently giving Kristoff a more prominent role in the sequel. Once he gets some more development he'll become more of a character. My guess is we'll see Anna and Kristoff advance in their relationship through some misunderstanding or conflict, leading to them getting officially engaged or at least married.

I also think there will be some conflict between Elsa and Anna in the sequel. There's a lot of crap they should work through, like Elsa's guilt and the resentment both of them probably have about it all

>>92099110
>Anna is still wildly more popular with the citizens than Elsa
>Elsa develops an inferiority complex

>>92098923
Wooo

>>92099110
Sounds like a good way to make Elsa a third wheel. I mean, aside from Anna, she didn't really have much going in the way of relationships. See, that's another problem I had with Frozen: Elsa was basically just the conflict and motivation.

If you give Kristoph a bigger role, that's probably not gonna mean good things for Elsa.

>>92099046
Elsa had the most screentime with Hans. The voice actor says the writers have hinted in having him return to play his character in a theoretical sequel to have him be redeemed. If you're going to bring a character back, why would you use him just to redeem him? If Hans is redeemed, it would be wasteful just to send him on his way at the end. He needs a reason to stay & Elsa is the best character to have him prove his changed heart. If the most heinous villain can be redeemed in the eyes of the person who hates him most, then that villain has totally earned his redemption. After all, Hans is Elsa's greatest enemy.

>>92099252
That sounds retarded considering that they had no chemistry and most of their interactions were Hans trying to kill her. If they actually got together, that'd be shit writing.

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>>92099046
But anon, all of those are wrong.
People love redemption arcs and hot villains with revealed tragic pasts and enemies to lovers arcs, see Kylo Ren for example. All they have to do is redeem Hans a bit and he'll make for a fantastic love interest, it'll be just conflicted enough to be interesting.

Disney already released a designer doll set with them along with some other merch, it should really well.

Aside from kristanna, helsa is the next most likely frozen ship. Each more likely than kristelsa or hanna which was very effectively shot down.

It'd be neat too, pairing the main 4 into 2 couples.

>>92099195
>>92099110
Overall, Frozen had some balance issues going on. While Elsa fueled the primary conflict, it's Anna that everything revolves around. Every single major character is connected primarily to Elsa. Most of the characters don't even know each other, and only Anna knows all of them to any significant extent.

So when Elsa actually starts talking to Kristoph and Olaf in Frozen Fever, it actually feels really weird and off since it kinda comes outta nowhere.

>>92098528

>finaly waking up

Nah, they were about money always, it's just it was art first, money later, now they're so used to these billions they forget about art and focus on profit.

>>92099139
>Anna
>Popular

Bullshit both in-universe & in reality. Deleted scenes portrayed her as the town fool. She doesn't do jack shit for her community.

Disney needs to grow some balls and make the movie they know people wanna see.


Elsa is an emotionally stunted fembot analogue with no idea what love actually is and every time she hears Kristoff ram his Sami dick into her sister's wet gaping pink pussy, Elsa can't help but touch her clit and pussy lips until her nightgown has stains from how wet she has gotten.

The movie is basically her trying to find a good dick while acting as if she knows how sex works and low key asking Anna how would Kristoff fuck her every night.

>Pair the spares because why not

I really hope they don't do this. Ham-fisted romances are the worst romances.

>>92099295
Where was the chemistry?!? Hell their first scene together was Elsa basically thinking he was an idiot like Anna for wanting to get married ASAP.

Every other interaction was him trying to kill her.

It's really hard to imagine a character like Hans getting redemption. The guy was a complete sociopath.

He literally tried to murder someone just for a grab at power and wasn't even hesitant about it.

>>92099282
They wouldn't just have Hans show up and be all yeah sorry bout the treason ilu Elsa let's get together bb, and then Elsa go all oh u rascal i believe u you're too hot to hate honey (dat bulge tho)

Obviously they'd actually write in the much hyped redemption arc first, giving them non-murderous screentime together. I mean the sequel will probably have a plot, things will happen in it, the characters will do things and develop

>>92099282
Dude, like every scene they shared was emotionally charged. Hans was more interested in eye-fucking Elsa where he lost his focus on pretending to be involved with his fiancee's ramblings. He saved her life, he even said he preferred Elsa romantically. Hans was the only person who got through to Elsa at any scene in the ice palace.

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http://variety.com/2017/tv/news/frozen-original-ending-1202018931/
Reminder that the original ending revealed that Hans was always poised to be the villain all along

>>92099195
>Sounds like a good way to make Elsa a third wheel. I mean, aside from Anna, she didn't really have much going in the way of relationships
Yes, this is why she'll get a love interest of her own. Elsa's loneliness has continued for a movie and a short, she's moved from total isolation to interacting with Anna and is becoming more free, happy and confident, but eventually Anna will marry Kristoff and start a family of her own with him, and Elsa will be kinda left on the side.

There's a lot of potential for family conflicts in the setting, actually

Hans will probably return in an effort to get revenge.

>>92099458
>>92099462
Holy fuck what are you two smoking?

>>92099554
Yeah, I dunno, I'm not feeling it. I really haven't the slightest interest in more love stories. And to be honest, I don't think the writers of Frozen would be able to write a good one if they tried.

>>92099449
Not really. The only incriminating actions he attempted was being cruel to Anna (which, frankly, after the way she treated him she deserved) & executing Elsa (whose magic did kill Anna).

He still has a heart. See whenever Anna's horse returns & when Elsa collapses to the frozen fjord. Sociopaths don't connect with animals like Hans did. There was no need to have Hans expressing sorrow for a woman he has no sympathy for.

>>92099573
But the points >>92099462 makes are all true

>>92099636
Acting. You sound like one of those tumblr landwhales trying to convince everyone that this villain isn't really a villain, just misunderstood.

>>92099566
Why? What is to be earned? What are the chances of success knowing the queen is a sorceress? With what army when your primary duty is to slop up literal shit?

>>92099709
This is a world where magic and gnomes and shit exist. And there's nothing to be earned. He's lost all chances at power and he probably blames Anna and Elsa.

>frozen general #2250
I'm pretty sure people are excited.

>>92099683
Why would Hans act around the horse? Or when Elsa's back is turned & is too consumed by grief to look up? Or act at all around a person you're going to kill in the next minute? If he wasn't acting in his last few moments interacting with Anna, why was he acting around Elsa?

>>92098610
Did that really happen or are you fucking with me? I've never seen the shorts, and I don't want to.

>>92098742
>What will you do when they get engaged, I wonder?
I explain how Disney's choice on this matter will affect their legacy here >>92071750. If they kill Elsanna, you and I both will just forget Frozen. It's a sad future. I don't want to forget this.

>>92098637
They are as natural of a ship as there has ever been, let alone that they could be one of the great milestones in human history. We'll never get another shot at this, and many of us just don't want to miss it. We want the future to look down on us with pride.

>>92099808
Epilogue scene in film first has Anna peck Kristoff on the cheek before they get rather into it with arms & lips & head tilting.

>>92099889
Ha, I don't believe that at all.

>>92099808
Disney produced the first feature-length animated film which literally made kids wet themselves. Disney has influenced so many mothers to name their daughters Bambi, Ariel, & Elsa. Disney built a fucking castle in Florida. Lesbian incest would barely be a blip on the radar in comparison to all the other achievements.

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>>92099295
I've seen people bring up the dolls frequently but I don't think they're evidence of anything, just toys that are bundled together.

Still, I'd be interested to see how Hans turned out after everyone saw what he's really like. People learned that even though he appears kind-hearted, it's just a facade he puts up while his true self is very ruthless, cold, selfish and scheming. After everyone found out about his sociopathic tendencies, he'll have a tougher job convincing anyone of his intentions. I'd like to see if he's still forming plots towards a better life and trying to appear like a smooth charismatic hero, or if he's just given up. I hope he'll play some kind of a role in the sequel.

>>92100092
Their expressions in official art like >>92099295 are rather flirtatious & mischievious more than suspicious.

>>92100092
Seems like they're enemy sets. All five of those sets are protagonists and antagonists. Except Elsa, who wasn't the protagonist despite getting top billing.

>>92100173
Man, you really are serious about this. Is this a pet ship of yours?

>>92100197
It's my OTP. Why? How am I doing with my arguments in support of the potential relationship?

>>92100240
You come off as a bit obsessive and pointlessly stubborn and I'm not sure if I should take you seriously or not because I feel like you're at least partially doing this in jest.

>>92100184
Well the series is called Heroes & Villains.

Arguably Wendy was more of the protagonist in Peter Pan, but all confrontations were between Peter Pan & Captain Hook.

Elsa is not the protagonist of Frozen despite her being the most iconic & popular character in the film. She did have the most interaction with Hans, but she never had that sort of expression in the feature.

>>92100261
I'm serious. So... Thanks?

>>92100328
Well in that case, I have my doubts that you're a reasonable person. No reasonable person would fight this hard over the relatively implausible romance between an almost-murderer and his would-be victim.

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>>92100184
Yeah, it's some kind of Heroes vs. Villains thing.
I think Peter Pan is another exception in that set, wasn't Wendy the actual protagonist of that movie? Peter just happens to be more iconic and popular as a character. They probably picked Elsa over Anna into that set of toys for the same reason.
There's also some other dolls where the characters wear different clothing, and those have Anna coupled in with Kristoff. I still don't think that has Hans/Elsa implications, it's just toys bundled together, and I don't see who else they could've bundled with Elsa instead. Oaken? The duke of Weselton?

>>92100173
In that case one could argue that Peter Pan might be playfully teasing and flirting with Captain Hook, or that the gazes that Ursula and Ariel are casting on one another show adoration and seduction.

>>92100375
I think it's positively amazing how awful that Ariel doll looks.

>>92100328
Oh, I thought you were the anon in support of Helsa.

But, if you can't actually refute my claims or answer my rebuttal questions, then I guess you have no foundation for your stance. In fact attacking my character instead of the topic at hand is often a sign that you have no ammo to continue. So, are you bowing out? It's your choice, but I win in your forfeiture.

>>92100476
I wasn't the guy arguing with you. I was just making an observation. Your obsession with this topic is weird.

>>92100375
Peter Pan is always playing when fighting Captain Hook & Ariel is always doe-eyed. Ariel is also moreso staring off in the distance, not actually making eye contact with the sea witch.

>>92100530
Oh. Okay then. So be it. I am passionate about many things. 4chan is one of the few places I can let my opinion run loose. It's like a dog park on the internet.

>>92099532
>>92099573

Don't even bother. Helsa fags are just as deluded as Elsanna fags. They're both convinced their ships are fucking "stealth canon" and that Disney is secretly supporting them. They just use different wording.

>>92100568
I think the issue is less your opinion or more the fact that you're so staunchly defensive about it. Most people, even with ships they really like, would probably concede and admit that it's an implausible ship despite their attachment to it.

That's what I meant when I said that you're not being very reasonable. There's looking on the bright side and then there's claiming a dimly lit cave is as bright as the midday sun.

>>92100017
Silly points. "The first feature-length animated film" fails with respect to story telling. Snow White didn't win anybody's heart. It was closer to a soulless tech demo than a giant leap for mankind.

Let's pretend that Bambi and Ariel won people's hearts, but it would be laughable to call their respective movies a milestone in human history.

Lastly, nobody gives a fuck about a building. You really reached hard for that one.

Elsanna by contrast has already won over people's hearts, and it's on the verge of becoming a significant milestone by being humanity's first universally beloved girl girl OTP.

>>92085293
>They fuck up every ethnic example. Look at moana for example..

What'd they get wrong about that?

>>92100687
And I don't even know what the hell you're trying to do. Nevermind the other guy, I am 98% certain you're being ironic.

>>92100687
Universally? Like all the shitstorms it would cause?

>>92077015
Elsa and Anna have better chemistry together than any other character. They're made for each other

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>>92100539
So if Hans and Elsa clipart has them exchanging looks that are "flirtatious & mischievious more than suspicious", that means they're totally into each other, but if any other characters do the same thing in the same set of toys, that doesn't prove anything?

I think your dismissal of Ariel's look is particularly flimsy. If her doe-eyed face doesn't count because she's always doe-eyed (she isn't btw, there's another heroes vs. villains set where the characters glare at the bad guys), by the same logic Elsa smirking or Hans smiling doesn't count either because all promotional art has them smirking anyway.

>>92100617
I suppose we both have subjective evidence, but redeeming a villain & pairing him romantically with the signature character is far more realistic than lesbian incest. Disney got flak for having Ariel be sixteen when she committed to Eric. Incest is incredibly taboo.

>>92100799
For a company that's knee-deep in merchandising, why can't Disney have any decent-looking toys?

>>92100799
Ariel's line of sight is general. Elsa & Hans, at least in the box artwork, are focused.

>>92100724
Your first lesson: don't try to compare me to other guys, doll.

>>92100737
Any "shitstorm" would just be another part of the celebration. Contrarians express joy in unusual ways.

I pray that they make elsa a lesbian .. please disney please.. i need this ...

>>92100786
Oh really? Would they be together if they were not related or raised together?

>>92100895
Of course. What the fuck is the point of that question?

>>92100873
Wow you're a fag or a troll. Would you screw your cousin or sibling if they were attractive?

>>92100916
Why? Why would either hang out with each other?

>>92100873
You're not my mom. I'll compare you to whatever other guys I want.

>>92100886
I hope they give her a manly man love interest.
Just to fuck with you and your kin

>>92100934
Uh, because they have great chemistry together as the other guy said.

>>92100955

it's not that deep you sensitive faggot

This thread is pure cringe. Were all /frz/ threads like this? Probably a lot worse

>>92100989
You shoulda seen the Zootopia threads.

Well, no, this might be worse.

>>92100940
So you're not gonna learn unless I pound it into you, huh?

>>92100922
Why would I? Dumbass. Also, why are you calling me a "fag" when you're the one in a Frozen thread trying to act tough.

>>92101033
Is that a promise, daddy?

disney sequels usually aren't that good, don't get your hopes up.

>>92101061
Lion King 1.5 wasn't bad.

>>92100805
Villain redemption like that is pretty common in fiction and I tend to enjoy it quite a lot.
However, I feel that if they ended up going that way with Hans, it would probably cause controversy too. Hans left Anna to die after smugly gloating to her about how he was going to kill Elsa next. His evilness revolved entirely around him being horrible dating material. If they actually gave Hans a romantic subplot with a happy ending, Disney would probably get accused of glorifying abusive boyfriends or something.

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>>92100617
First of all, there is nothing stealth about Elsanna. It's right in your fucking face.

I hope they make another song that becomes over popular again :)

>>92100617
>They're both convinced their ships are fucking "stealth canon"
I've never seen helsafags insist Disney intends the connection to be already there between the lines, just that it's possible. They're nowhere near the delusion levels of elsannafags with their stealth canon.

Besides, a hero - redeemed villain hetero romance is more likely than an incestuous lesbian romance in family friendly entertainment, objectively speaking.

>>92101119
I think that if they had him go through enough torture and suffering and slapped in a tragic backstory AND a heroic sacrifice before Elsa believes he might be a changed man, it might work. Disney isn't the Disney death trope namer for nothing.

I agree though that if they just shove them together with some lame-ass apology and not much else it's gonna be some serious hackery.

>>92101178

I guess it could be argued that since Elsa and Anna were forced to keep distant from each other for years, they go way overboard with displays of affection when they're finally permitted for them, however jesus christ, nobody thinks about their sister in terms of "I love her so much" unless they're also fucking their sister. Your siblings are people that you acknowledge and trust but you don't... you don't act like that for. That's for lovers.

>>92098923
\o

>>92100617
Er, no. We would just like to see it happen. We don't think it MUST happen, or that it IS right under our eyes.

>>92100895
Seeing as Disney's pushing this diversity thing, possibly, yeah. Two princesses getting together.

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>>92100687
>Elsanna by contrast has already won over people's hearts
A bunch of tumblr and 4chan peeps isn't 'winning over people's hearts'. THIS is what the real Frozen target group wanted

>>92102898
I dunno, Helsafags seem to cling to this picture >>92099295
in a very similar way as Elsanna people cling to this one >>92069984

>>92100989
Yes, this pretty much looks like /frz/ threads.
We're missing some artwork and greentexts, though.

>>92102970
Only asswipes want that. "Oh, they both have ice powers! SHIP!" Fuck off

>>92102977
Probably a recent development. Back then we just liked to toy with the possibility and gorge ourselves in glorious fanfics and fanart*.

*which, I must say, Elsanna has too (not the sexual ones). They are pretty cute doing things together

>>92101008
Zootopia threads were great till April third '16

>>92102977
I think it's just proof of their chemistry, cause it does undeniably looks like they're eye-fucking. Completely unintentional I'm sure but it's there.

>>92101178
Elsa and Anna are meant to be together! How can fools not see it?

>>92102471
I see a lot of elsannafags contrast Elsa and Anna to normal siblings and then claim it's romantic because you don't usually see sisters being that affectionate, but they're forgetting it's not a normal situation.

Neither Elsa or Anna have ANY other family or friends. No one. They've been crushingly lonely all their lives. Why did you think Anna was so fucking desperate to marry someone she just met? She, at least, now has Kristoff, but Elsa still has no other close friends or family.

On top of that, they both thought they'd fucked everything up so bad forever people were literally gonna die. Elsa especially, she literally killed Anna with her powers, watched her die and started to mourn her, thinking that she was gonna forever be alone in the world. Anna "only" provoked Elsa into freezing the country and having to go into exile and later into freezing her heart through being a tactless brat, but still, she fucked up so bad she thought she'd banished her sister forever.

So there's a HUGE factor of guilt over having caused the other's death and gratitude that they still draw breath AND not having anyone else in your life that's completely missing from irl sibling relationships. I hope.

But that would affect things. You know how you only appreciate what you have once you've lost it? When your sibling is alive you argue with them but if they die the grief is unbearable and you'd give fucking anything to turn back time, change fate, try to save them, if only you could have them back? Can you imagine the guilt of having literally killed your little sibling? How much you would cherish them if a miracle happened, and they suddenly weren't dead and you weren't a murderer any more?

It's not romance, it's intense trauma. Elsa needs therapy, man

>>92094761
to be fair, httyd was planned to be a trilogy from the start.

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>mfw Frozen 2 is really happening in my lifetime

Seeing as the first one was mediocre, I doubt this one will do anything but fail miserably as a sequel. It'll make money out the ass for sure, but it won't be a good show

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>>92102909

nah, but i worry for Incredibles 2. I have a hunch it's not going to be about Incredible family but Frozone and his friends.Samuel L. Jackson confirmed doing his lines IIRC.