How's Your Webcomic? #363: Never Give Up

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Scrub Authors GOODIE Bag
Here’s a short list of sites that any new webcomic artist or writer will find handy:
>*-Struggling to find that perfect FONT? Create your own using this link;
http://www.myscriptfont.com/

>*-Don’t forget to brush up on that ANATOMY:
http://artists.pixelovely.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing/
http://www.quickposes.com/pages/timed

>*-What’s a list without some reference STOCK IMAGES?
People: http://senshistock.deviantart.com/gallery/
Scenery: http://www.shutterstock.com/

>*-Here's a big fat compilation of CHARACTER DESIGN REFERENCE:
http://www.pinterest.com/characterdesigh/ (surprisingly not a typo)

>Links to get a rough WEBSITE started up:
Easy to use tumblr webcomic theme: https://www.tumblr.com/theme/39018
Do’s and Don’ts for starting a site: http://pastebin.com/kNR2W5mV
>Contact sheet if anyone wants to put information down, like their site and webcomic:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1uwfOSHXfrgvcf--PkPz9jXL6p5RqIsrYvXYwgQpgT3k/edit#

>DISCORD CHAT going on: https://discord.gg/rXMbdqP


>Wise words from John Cleese:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5xPvvPTQaMI [Embed]

>Invisible Ink:
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_1.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_2.pdf
http://courses.cs.washington.edu/courses/cse456/07su/administrative/invisible_ink_part_3.pdf

>Paper Wings
http://chrisoatley.com/category/podcasts/
https://web.archive.org/web/20140625035030/http://paperwingspodcast.com/

>Fonts for your webcomic on Blambot:
http://www.blambot.com/

>Writing Resources:
http://www.cienciasecognicao.org/rotas/wp-content/uploads/2013/12/Robert-McKee-Story.pdf

>Guide to promoting your comic:
http://miss-melee.tumblr.com/post/143483233951/

>Comics for makin' comics!
https://www.mediafire.com/folder/9pf1nwwa92lbp/Comics_for_making_Comics

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=how+to+draw+comics

Bumperino lets keep it alive!

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I have this idea for a story.

Short version is it's essentially Spongebob told from the perspective of Squidward.

Long version is it's a typical cartoon city "world" where there is a central comedic figure that everything revolves around. From their perspective everything is fun and games but everyone else is really terrified of them and being caught up in their antics all the time. This goes especially for the "straight man" character that is part of what would normally be the central cast (think like a Sandy.)

A secondary character arrives (the main character) and has a dramatic effect on the world by being immune to the comedic character's antics via a magical anti-shenanigans umbrella that they carry.

I'm not great at doing comedy but how I imagine it is the story starts with the typical silly cartoon comedy to highlight the antagonist's antics. It's supposed to be funny for the same reason most cartoons are funny (situations with irrelevant consequences). But the tone is supposed to shift over time as the perspective shifts from them to everyone else to the "hero."

Ex. A cartoon characters gets hit with a hammer and turned into a coin it's funny + they are fine in the next scene

It's less funny if they emote real fear before-hand

It's even less funny if being smashed into a coin kills them (morbid humor notwithstanding)

I'm not sure if I want to take it THAT far or if hostpitalization is enough. Something to show that they are not actually fine. And this would go for a lot of classic gags like running into walls or getting pied.

There's a lot of other stuff like mixing classic cartoon designs with modern designs but this is already a long post.

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>>92052824

Still working through the designs of the main two characters. I've mostly settled on the head the main guy and the fact that he only has one ear. Not sure where to go with the body though. And the girl is coming around.

Then I just got to try to populate the general cast.

Trying to come u p with designs for cartoon characters is surprisingly difficult. It's not hard for me to do human(oid) characters. I think it's because I feel like source pool is staggering. I was thinking of finding a random word generator and making up characters based on whatever it spits out.

The city has no theme (like Bikini Bottom where it's all sea life) so the population could be anything...

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Trying to atmosphere.

>>92053771
l-link pls?

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>>92053826
Just starting out, getting over that it's never good enough mentality and just leaping into the first page. I'm going to build a bit of a backlog of pages before I start posting as well so I can keep up the momentum. It's super encouraging and flattering that you're interested though.

Thread Question.


Is there a type of music you listen to when you draw/write?

Is there any specific song you listen to that gave you a specific idea? If so, what was it?

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reposting page 5 from last thread.

>>92054176
neato.

I feel like the smoke could use some work. It looks like he's exhaling his kidneys

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>>92053984
alot of songs inspired me to keep working over the last few months
but If I really need to force myself to work, I listen to this weeb shit.

https://soundcloud.com/user-896102128/0vamxkkv7ukw

>>92054241
this was one of the only things on the page that I just drew rather than referencing anything, I'm going back to this page to fix any text problems I have so Ill redraw it then.

>>92053984
>Is there a type of music you listen to when you draw/write?
honestly, alot of crap half the time.
>Is there any specific song you listen to that gave you a specific idea? If so, what was it?
I ended up writing a short story in college about a group of students who start a cult in the basement of campus after listening to Voodoo By Godsmack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9SSUQxGjZZ4

>>92053984
I've been listening to a lot of Gorrilaz lately.

But the usual genres I like to listen to is rock, EDM, and jazz.

Luckily the Dangan Ronpa soundtrack is all three.

>>92053950
I think you're definitely at that good enough to start stage. Unless you were planning on this being 100% publish and print ready from the start, your current level and style is very appealing. you would only get better at the other aspects of webcomic making as well as your art from here on out. Either way would love to bookmark

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>>92054241
fixed,

>>92055351
oh yeah, much better.

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"Way of the gun " guy here! Said I was gonna do a batman fan comic , it's going to be called batman: zero sum. dude in here inspired me, shouts out to him. Here's a preview page ,Just Started today, never liked doing city scapes but after watching some bat man stuff I noticed they all mostly start with a view of Gotham why not do the same. I'm going to try my best to finish this short within 2 weeks. Should get faster when I get to the human figures as I have a more enjoyable time drawing people doing stuff. "Way of the gun" is going through some exciting stuff right now don't want to say much but I have been working on it just want to get a good number of pages done before I dump them.

>>92051954

How do you feel about using gimmicks to offset subpar art in a webcomic?

I'm interested in getting into webcomics as sort of a solo side project/creative outlet to work on when I'm not doing other stuff with my friends, but generally they do most of the heavy lifting in the art department when we collaborate. I'm not much of an artist and won't make any allusions to the contrary, but I was thinking that I could potentially offset that by shaking up the standard format a bit by applying some of the skills I picked up at my dayjob. (eLearning developer)

My plan being to create a sort of browser based interactive webcomic/visual novel hybrid. Created in the same software I use to make online courses/exams, uploaded in long monthly chapters as opposed to daily/weekly strips. Each being complete with sound effects, music, limited animation, "mini games", etc. all integrated seamlessly to mix things up and keep it interesting.

My biggest inspiration being Shu Takumi games like Ghost Trick and Phoenix Wright.

Good idea, or a waste of time?

I rarely visit these threads so I apologize in advance if this topic or something similar has been discussed to death already, but I'm just looking for advice before going all in and running with it.

>>92053771
why dice girl missing a finger

>>92055784
My personal hope is that my characters and lore will be enough to ignore my shitty art
If it can work for One Punch Man, it can work for me.

>>92054176
Man your faces are great but that dude's body looks like a bag of garbage

>>92055784
Sounds cool man go for it. What would it be about?

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>>92056257
I might be going back to that 4th panel aswell. I rushed the body on that one.

>>92053771
That lady on the right is in a real uncomfortable position lol or she likes getting hit from the back so much it's natural for her? your perspective could use some work bud

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>>92056152
If you're good enough with composition that it's readable, you'll be fine.

One of my favorite webcomics looks like it was drawn by a 9 year old in MS Paint, but it has decent enough writing to make it pass.

>>92053771
>>92056528
But this looks good and I can't wait to see more, sorry didn't mean to come off like that , keep it up!

>>92055784
Honestly, you won't know until you try. Either it will work or it won't.

One thing I will say is that the readerbase doesn't care so much if the art is "subpar" as long as the comic is readable and gets the point across. (And is entertaining to them.)

I would say go for it.

>>92056559
Wow that really is good writing I went ahead and slapped my mother a couple times it was so good.

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Finally figured out what to do with page 3.

>>92056988
youre my favorite artist in here hands down, the motion in which you portray scenes is so amazing even at this early stage of a page it's incredible .your a threat to me, tell me you have a Deviantart Senpai?????

>>92057121
I've got a bunch of everything. Still trying to nail down a social media system to promote my work for when I get serious.

http://bridgefirecomics.deviantart.com/

>>92056559
What even is this, anon?

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>>92056971
It's a shapeshifting monster trying to woo the blonde woman because there's a prophecy promising something good to the person she falls in love with, so every time he fails he feigns his own death and tries again as someone he thinks would be slightly more attractive to her.

>>92057485
Hitmen for Destiny. It's long as shit and the art is consistently bad, but it's a fun read. Lots of entertaining monster biology and overly complicated drama puzzles, and I ended up enjoying the characters even though the dialogue isn't that well written.

>>92056295

I won't go into too much detail as the concept is still evolving, but...

It's a tongue-in-cheek science fiction story about an alien engineer. He is the one of the only crewman working on a monolithic, state of the art, mostly automated space station. His duties basically boil down to being a glorified janitor, cleaning up after travelers who pass by and fixing anything that the robots aboard the station can't. He's pretty upbeat and enthusiastic about his crappy job though, and all of the new people and cultures that he gets exposed to living on what is basically a giant floating rest stop. Him performing his various futuristic mundane tasks forms the basis for many of the minigames in the first chapter.

One of his few living companions is an human girl who works at one of the station's fast food joints. She's basically a more emo version Trillian, but with some added quirks to make her feel a bit more fresh. Earth was accidentally destroyed several years prior to the events in the comic, turning humans into an endangered and nomadic species. While life in space is exciting and humanity has had a many years heal, it's still a sore spot and she occasionally gets pretty down in the dumps about it. This leads into a chain of events where our main character decides that they (as well as a robot and another alien character) should go on a little spur of the moment intergalactic road trip to cheer her up.

Their journey and friendship is the focal point of overarching story I want to tell, with each additional update being a short tale focused on them interacting with the new planets/aliens that they encounter as they travel the universe in search of their destination. Eventually, when all of that is said and done and they return to the space station, I want to slowly expand it with new plots centered on the various side characters established in that first story. Nothing concrete planned on that front yet though, just a few early ideas.

On Patreon, should I charge patrons monthly or per creation? I update every sunday at noon.

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wip page 6, feeling real into working the last few days,

>>92059227
Generally charging per creation is more for if you update irregularly. Since you have regular updates I'd just go with monthly.

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>>92051954
Names are hard. Names for the whole series, names for countries, names for the world, but mostly names for characters. I always feel like names should mean something but not that they should be recognizable. What do

Is it a good idea to self-publish a webcomic as an ebook?

>>92059309
Places are easy. Just give everything a similar suffix.


For example, here are cities of one country in my setting

>Tractaborg
>Magyaborg
>Sepiksborg
>Taraborg
>Kazaborg

>>92049529
the loose lineless look is good, but I think the lines could line up a lot better. especially the stripes on that pillar in back, shouldn't those be bowing down in the middle because of the perspective?

>>92059227

Monthly, definitely.

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This is Minerva the ghost. Say something nice about her.

>>92059354
Disgusting

>>92059312
Unless you already have a following, probably not, especially if you plan charging money for it. most webcomic readers I know about don't seem too keen on the eBooks market, so I imagine a lot of people will overlook it that way.

>>92059421
why?

>>92059368
>>92059277
okay and should i publish the pages once a week (like i do now) or can i just upload them as soon as each one is finished? i draw 1~2 pages a day.

>>92059274
thicc

>>92059444
Well if you draw pages that quickly you might as well make them a reward for your patrons. You could do something like

$1 reward: read next week's page early
$5 reward: read the comic buffer

If pages are that quick for you, you might want to up your update rate a little bit. Updating twice a week might help draw in/retain readers better.

>>92059312
It's one more avenue for getting your work out, and can be done for low or minimal cost. Comixology Submit is a relatively easy way to publish and distribute a PDF of your comic; I've used it for mine as well as web and print versions.

The way I see it, it breaks down like this:
Web - lo-res (standard definition), free, needs an active internet connection.
PDF/digital file - hi-res, low cost, can be downloaded to mobile devices and read without internet.
Print - hi-res as it was intended to be seen, standard cost, doesn't need batteries, and can be personalised with signatures and sketches.

The Print and PDF versions can be practically identical, and you can include sketches, fan art, director's commentary and other extras that either aren't available on the free web version or are otherwise scattered across the internet.

You'll still have to do all your own marketing/advertising/shilling etc.

>>92059432
not him but they sound pretty lame desu. Borg Borg Borg, it's like naming all your towns Watertown, Allentown, etc etc

>>92059945
That's how most cities in places like Europe and Asia were named though.

>>92059969
Doesn't make it sound any better? Just my opinion but even generic fantasy towns from a random generator sound better than that

>muh historical accuracy

>>92052824
This might just be brilliant. You've kind of hit on the major issue with it though: in order for them to be reasonably bothered long-term and not just get used to it, there has to be some kind of real consequence to the careless actions of the main character, but also a reason the grump can't do anything about it.. it has to have real conflict but at the same time not be so hopeless that the reader gets depressed and burns out on caring
>>92053088
I like these characters. They're a lot better looking than most real cartoons though

are the google ads on webcomic pages profitable?

>>92060128
>not liking historical accuracy

If anything it has more to do with language than anything else.

>>92059945
>>92059969

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Place_name_origins

Cities and towns are often named after local geographic features, which is why there are a lot of similar place endings, like -ton, -town, -wich, -berg, etc.

>>92060128
Giving literally every place the same suffix would be boring, but a few recurring suffixes would add verisimilitude (eg -burg for large cities, -ton for small towns and villages).

>>92060307
Yeah I'm all for that. I like the variety of suffixes with meanings/relevance with a healthy mix of random named as well.

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Still working on designing this character, think I'm narrowing in on something I like, but still trying to find a good color combo I like. I know the general ballpark of where I want the colors, just gotta get em to work.

>>92053984
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XCiDuy4mrWU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_IWg-mmO_6Q
this kinda thing gets me pumped
i usually need visuals to get inspired, particularly videogame cutscenes, but their music can certainly do it too, especially the ambient stuff.

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>>92056559
ditto

>>92056988
wait, but she only said it twice, right?
also given the kinda shit BJ put people through in the movie, I have to imagine there'd be lots of extremely lewd fun to be had in a scenario like this. Burton loves him some tentacles..

>>92057656
that is an interesting premise for sure

>>92059309
Considering you came up with a fantastic name for this guy in the last thread and a great name for that other creature, you probably have nothing to worry about
but just combine good sounds, good roots.. occasional puns.. it's all good

>>92059408
boo

>>92060497
yeah you're definitely in the right area. the just-off-blue for the hair and skin is great. and I think the lilypad hat is the right color, but I'd go with a darker, yellower green for the dress. not too saturated of course

>>92061503
The name for the other creature, gatorelk, isn't that...creative. it's just throwing two existing names together. Oldeking is almost more of a title, the lion guy probably has a real name as well hahaha.

>>92060497
Great design.

Not the biggest fan of your comic, the humor is just not doing it for me, but your visual direction is pretty good. Reminds me of 00s cartoons. Ever considered becoming a character designer? We're in desperate need of that, I can't take any more of those CalArts designs.

>>92059274
Shitabout to ramp up!

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>>92062093
boi you know it.

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>>92051954
Starting up the last chapter of this story arc; love drawing animals in armor

>>92053984
Music distracts me; I usually put on something like Stefan Molyneux or Styx

>>92061924
I could have sworn you said he was (something) the oldeking, but I don't remember.
yeah but gatorelk sounds good. a lesser writer would have said elkigator and that sounds terrible.

Is the creator of CitT still posting here? Love his comic.

Is 300 readers enough to warrant a Patreon without looking desperate?

>>92062687
nah he gave up a while back then gave up on comics entirely
but you can still follow his work.. uh.. i'll get you a link

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Reposting.

>>92063141
ah, no blog. i guess he doesn't want to share now. oh well

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about a 5 hour drawing session and this ones done.

/co/, how do you write a description for your webcomic? Should I treat it like the back cover of the book and give a brief synopsis, or do I just say fuck it and give the most basic info like update times and stuff?

>>92060968
Yeah. Hence the thought bubble. It's in her head. At the end she is just ignoring them.

>>92062687
Shit taste desu

>>92063529
we really gotta work on getting your shoulders broader and your hips narrower when you draw men, but you really are improving.

>>92061996
Thanks, man! Understandable, I'm still trying to work on my humor for it. Writing funny stuff is actually a big worry of mine.

>>92061557
Yeah, prey much what I was thinking, too.

Patreon now has per week payment option.
Thoughts?

>>92063625
ah yeah i didn't see the thought bubble. i'm sure in the finished product it'll be more clear. That's actually a great ending, Lyds isn't the kind to fuck around like that
>>92063676
I actually feel the opposite of that guy. I love your writing and humor, the art's just a turn-off because of personal preferences. But he's right in that it's not like what cartoons look like today, it's more how they used to look.

>>92063557
Certainly your update schedule, so people know when new episodes are out.
A couple of words to describe genre (eg Sci-Fi Comedy, Western Horror).
Optionally, a very brief synopsis (like a couple of sentences).

>>92063697
Thanks! Haha, yeah, I mean, I don't really have a problem with how cartoons look today, but it's definitely not what I would want to make.

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>>92061320
That's just a side plot. The premise is that there are secret prophecies that are generally guaranteed to happen, but can be affected by outside interference. A butterfly-effect nudge in the wrong direction won't ruin a prophecy, but killing a prominent figure in the prophecy will probably do it. So there's an organization (Hitmen for Destiny) that receives payments from people who would benefit from the prophecies to ensure they happen - mostly by killing interlocutors and keeping tabs on the people involved.

So obviously the first thing that happens is a pair of the agents fuck up and kill a major figure in one of the blonde girl (Anette)'s prophecies. The rest of the series is them trying to cover up their mistake and keep all of her resultantly affected prophecies running smoothly.

As I mentioned before, the strengths of the series are a baffling level of detail in its xenobiology and complex situations of peril and personal drama with the feel of puzzles, but the characters are written with a surprising amount of nuance. The art style was kept to this childishly simple level because, between the complex monster designs and panel timing, if the author attempted to collaborate on it with an artist who had any skill it'd still be in production. Unfortunately, this also keeps people from bothering with it. I push it whenever I can because the passion that went into it really shows and it deserves better.

>>92064456
crazy, man. almost as if crummy art leaves the creative part of your brain free

>>92064491
I don't know about that, but it certainly frees up the time. It's also a matter of action over concept - if you put all your effort into improving your art through fundamental practice and won't make comics until you're satisfied with how your characters look or your grasp on perspective, you probably aren't practicing the most important aspects of the craft. It's better to have a shitty looking comic that people can read and invest in and critique and that you can expand upon or revisit with a renewed level of skill than to have a pile of decent looking sketches and a premise that no one will bother looking through because those are boring.

>>92063696
No it doesn't

>>92063696
I'd rather just use it as a commission vector. pay per item, or give random one-time donations. I feel like people would much rather do that than have to subscribe and pay monthly
obviously getting monthly payments means stability for some people, the ability to confidently focus on work, but.. for me, doing it as a hobby, essentially trying to e-beg, i'd rather people feel free to just hand me some pocket change at random

>>92063344
>>92063299
>>92063244
>>92063195
I'm gonna give it to you straight, this is butt ugly. It looks too messy I feel like you should work on refining your lines before you color and also do better on the Anatomy. Also the designs are very bland. I appreciate the action though, but I feel like you can do better then this.

>>92064456
I feel like this is your work, it's terrible to say the least. It's not grabbing me at all. Your characters are bad actors reading off of a script and a poorly written one at that. Get back to the drawing board bud

>>92065808
>I feel like this is your work
he already said it wasn't.

>>92063529
Why do your male characters have sexy, childbearing hips?

>>92065808
Unrelated but how does one even convey characters as realistic through writing?
It seems difficult without voice actors
When I write mine I try as hard as possible to make their conversations seem natural but it still feels like they're just plot puppets meant to get the story across and not actual people going through the events

>>92066520
cause I'm bad at drawing.

>>92051954
sometimes i don't even know why i come here.

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>>92066611
Oh I thought maybe it was a style thing.
I'm by no means an expert artist but I hope this helps.

>>92066583
as long as you put yourself in their place and have them react accordingly, you're doing as much as can be expected.

>>92066864
I try to have them react as fluidly as possible. A good example I look to as to how not to write character dialogue is Kingdom Hearts.
Fuck any writer should use that, the writing is so awful.

>>92063529
Do you have a website? Your character designs and setting remind me of my own comic and I am intrigued

>>92066909
i will never forgive square enix for not only making JRPG a dirty word, not just ruining japanese art in general, but in hoarding and then ruining the one chance we ever had for more disney video games

>>92065808
It's not mine, and I specifically noted the dialogue isn't very good but that the characters are likable in spite of that. It's awkward and ugly but a genuine delight to read.

>>92066958
I like the games but the writing is the worst garbage I have ever seen in my life.
Not a single character is an actual person, just a mouth piece for Nomura to get across some vague shit about darkness and light

>>92066940
http://strawbles.deviantart.com/gallery/62851906/Delruby-Dawn-April-2017

>>92066778
this helped a ton, thank you.

>>92067163
Sweet. I look forward to seeing where this goes.

>>92067123
I've seen a little of it, and the dialogue is fucking godawful.
i like melodrama, i like my uguu and my doushio and my "i'll never forgive you", but the shit i heard was so wooden and meaningless. it's like.. comparing an RPG to KH is like comparing a 'toy commercial cartoon' to the actual toy commercial.

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I've been sick of how tumblr made the last header looked so I spent some time measuring it out and testing what'd look better. Not excited to figure out how I'm going to fit in more characters in the future.

I want to do the TF2 comic gimmick of dynamic pages but at the same time that's exactly what it's known for and I'll look like a hack for shamelessly ripping it off

>>92068014
Every comic is a rip off of the first guy who did it

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putting in some work

>>92063529
definitely work on anatomy.
>>92063195
>>92063244
>>92063299
>>92063344
this is really awesome!
>>92060497
i dig your style! she seems fun to draw
>>92056988
sick! can't wait to see the finished version

>>92056485
Now that's a nice booty

Is it a good idea to go to art school if you're a complete beginner?

There's this art school in my city that has a 3-month comics program running Monday through Friday for 4 hours a day. Costs about $500 per month. Is it a deal?

>>92068014
what do you mean, like interactive pages where shit launches into place as you read? TF2 didn't invent that. those have been around since the early 00s at least.

>>92065728
You can opt for per creation charging then.

>>92068436
>art school
no fuckin way
>beginner
the best person to go to one, but still n-
>4 hours a day for 3 months
>1500 bucks total
.... that's.... actually not a bad deal. Look them up online, see how they've been reviewed. if it's good, if people have actually improved, then go ahead. You'll have a chance to ask them what level you oughtta be at

>>92068465
yeah but theyre still signing up, subscribing, then being billed later, aren't they? i couldn't expect anyone to do that.

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the cambion

>>92069980
She's a cute, you the same dude talking about your cambion character from last thread?

>>92069980
great mix of cute and sexy there. I feel like there's a small tweak I would make to her facial features.. mind if I just photoshop them a little bit? Or would that be a big ol swingin' dick in your orifice

>>92070080
You should give her a big swinging dick.

>>92070044
yep

>>92070080
yeah, if you want

>>92070155
she prefers girl parts

>>92070397
You are aware that I meant attaching a dick to her right?

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>>92070397
this is just what stuck out in my mind looking at it.. I tried to put one eye's-width between the eyes, decrease the distance to the nose from the eyes, and think about the jawbone and eye socket sizes when placing the eyebrows and mouth.. the editing's a bit ugly.

>>92070677
Not him, but this is more towards uncanny valley than the original

>>92068924
No they're only charged when you post a paid post.

Also Patreon is live and kicking. Once people love you and your art, they do incredible things. Many artist are making a living (some thousand dollars per month) and some even reach six figure.

>>92070825
what I mean is, they're still going to bed not knowing how much their accounts will be charged the next day. I don't like that kind of relationship with customers.

>>92070155
>dick just hanging out with that coat on and no panties
l-lewd

>>92070907
Please go to Patreon and have a look. There's a set pledge amount, with corresponding rewards. If you opt for per creation then your patrons are charged their pledge amount when you post a creation. And it is recommended that you only opt for per creation only if you post less than 4 paid posts per month. Otherwise you'll go monthly charging. So patrons expect they'll be charged "their pledge amount*4" maximum. Also they can cap the maximum amount they can be charged. If they set it to $1 they are charged 1 dollar per month max even if you post 1000 paid posts.

https://www.patreon.com/explore

>>92071037
That's pretty much how I thought it worked. So that stuff I said.. is how I feel about that.

>>92071065
So? Why should I care that you're a coward who's mind is still stuck in 2000s? Not many people think like you. That's why patreon is working.

>>92071065
And it isn't pretty much what you said. It's the opposite because they know how much they'll be charged. Please read before replying.

>>92071104
>Why should I care
I was just giving my opinion on Patreon, and how I would and wouldn't rather use it. I don't see how you're involved at all.
>>92071131
they don't know whether or when you'll make something, so no.

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>>92071104
>You're stuck in the PAST, Grandpa! History's on my side!
Woof.

>>92071153
You wasted my time. Note to self: Don't talk to retards.

>>92071224
sorry for wasting your time, guy. don't let me sour you on all retards.

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The face of a demon

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I think I'm starting to see why most manga artist LOVE drawing food. As much as this is a sketch I'm having fun with the cake even though it's probably an abomination of a cake.

>>92070907
Nothing is ever 100% for sure when you're making your living online. Patreon is working extremely well for hundreds of creators including me. If you don't trust Patreon's ability to make you get paid, what you really don't trust is your own abilities to make something people will want to give you money for. And that ain't Patreon's problem. It's yours. For being untalented.

>>92072142
Nice work with those first three panels, all those poses read really well. You should start playing with your line widths some more, using that super thin brush on everything makes your completed lineart look a tad sketchy.

>>92072142
noy only is cake fun as hell to draw, you almost can't do it wrong. that abominable cake looks offbeat, funny, delicious.. like some weirdo baked it.
that cute little bug is adorable as fuck

>>92072199
who pissed in your oatmeal, guy? i was just expressing some discomfort with the model. It's not how I'd like it to work, which is as more of a tipjar

>>92072142
this is a really really really nit-picky thing but in the first panel the stool is a lot closer to the road than it is in the second

what's more important?
quantity or quality?

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>>92068271
more stuff. introducing more color

>>92072295
>Tis actually is a sketch sire

But your right line width needs to be improve thing is i never incorporate that into my "sketching" which i should do more. As for now I'll just practice on gestures more with this book. It helped a lot with making poses and body expression in those first panels.

>>92072357
will be fixed trust me.

>>92073339
Both, but what you should be worrying about is overall improve.

Get some books, watch some video and practice AVUHRY day!

>>92073339
Quantity, with the bare minimum quality

If your stuff is inescapable, people are going to come back to it as long as it's not complete shit

>>92073339
content and subject matter
after that, quantity

>>92073339
quality. make something good
>>92073451
>>92073470
don't listen to these people unless you only care about making stuff to please others and get popular. make something worth making or don't make anything at all

that said, until you spend a lot of time honing your craft and building up a portfolio, you're probably going to just make a bunch of bad shit. so quantity is an inevitable factor of quality. dammit.... quantity it is then, i guess

>>92073339
Having a schedule and meeting it with the best quality you can muster at the speed.

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Last page of the day, but I'm not sure if i'm done with this one
Panels 3 and 4 look so weird, and i'm too tired to think of a better way to show she's teleporting.

>>92073544
but I was advising content followed by quantity exactly because you should make something that pleases yourself before pleasing others.

>>92073835
it kinda works, though it looks like we're missing something in the far right top panel.
what's the effect meant to look like if it was TV? i'm getting kind of a diagonal dissolve but it seems to affect her bangs and not her face

>>92070673
she has magic genitals that can change between male and female but she prefers female except for certain scenarios (raping)

>>92074117
Ugh dropped

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no comic.

but, i made this.

>>92075012
she looks like the grinch

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>#999
kinda.. thought i'd be done with this one by now. Oh well!
everyone loves Lobster for different reasons. he is a terrific noodlemancer.
Riven's pose in panel 7 is so.. collectible. I want a figurine RIGHT NOW.

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>>92075074

That is one of things she is similar to.

She is based off from the kappa, And she used to live in a lake,

>>92053984
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYs4mCeQ2sE
I've had this on loop for the past couple of days
Though usually I just listen to my playlist over and over

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Haven't posted Wilfreda in a while... Here's the newest strip.

Backstory: Wilfreda is looking for something that she could give to her mom as present, and she seems to have found something. And then she is told the price.

>>92075294
so sweet. mom's day IS coming up
a gashapon prize is still a good prize

>>92073544
The only problem with quality is if you focus too much on it, you end up like those guys who get like 3 pages out on here then are gone for a couple month before the next one, because they keep reworking

>>92075405
Can confirm. The issue is never how long it initially takes, but some part of it just looks awful and you get hung up on it indefinitely. I guess that's perfectionism? It's way easier to 3/4ths ass it and instead of agonizing over it, holding the rest of the page hostage until your awful hand has met your demands, to simply request advice on the issue and apply it toward avoiding the same problem in the future.

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>>92075405
>>92075516
Exactly this
I've been stuck on this page for months because I can't make the lineart work on the shelves, no matter what I do. Not to mention nothing looks as good as it did when you started it
It's like the anon said, just an endless cycle of scrapping and revising

>>92075584
It looks fine but you could match the flat surface of the shelf with the top of the bin next to it, I can tell the bin is off or vice versa.

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Alright, so I started planning another comic and I think I'm gonna share my plans with you guys

It's a morbid high school romantic comedy about a self proclaimed doctor and a reanimated cadaver. Dr. Goodlove, as she calls herself, insists that she's an expert in the ways of romance, and convinces a boy named Rudolf to let her help him win over his crush. However, when she's prepared the perfect moment for a romantic confession, Rudolf is hit by a semi truck. Refusing to let the love die then and there, Goodlove steals Rudolf's corpse from the hospital morgue, stitches him back together and revives him from death. While Rudolf is grateful, he doesn't think being a walking corpse will help him win over a girl's heart, but that won't stop him from trying.

I'm trying to make my stories have better hooks and more succinct plots, since I feel that has been a major problem with my current comic. Thoughts?

>>92076005
it's a great hook. this is one of those times where I hate to draw a comparison with another comic, just because they're superficially similar, but on the other hand it'd make great reading material for you for inspiration. but on the other hand you're probably already a fan
anyway it's franken fran

>>92075201
>Guys asks me what is with the design.
>I answer it
>he never come back.

Curse my nagging geelings

>>92076222
I don't think any of what you said happened really

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>>92076283

I know, I want to complain about stuff.

>>92076029
Thanks, I've honestly never read Franken Fran, though I have heard of it. Tbh I always avoided it because I heard it was extremely gruesome, which just isn't something I really enjoy. I was planning to do more cartoonish blood/gore with this rather than more realistic/grotesque stuff.

>>92076588
it's ... just realistic enough to be disturbing but still so over the top that it's hard to get too bothered by it. it's definitely a comedy at its heart.

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>>92056988

LINES LINES LINES

Still haven't quite figured out what I'm doing with line weights. I'll stumble on a technique that makes it click eventually...

>>92066583
I'm not good at writing myself but I hope this can help you. Determine what kind of personality traits your characters have; are they shy, passive aggressive, fearful, depressed etc... Someone who's shy and withdrawn speaks different than someone who's easily irritated.
Also, don't let your characters explain what's happening or what has happened. You don't want them to be characters who's only purpose is to explain the reader what is going on in your comic (because that is what the story, flow and artwork does). Conversations are there to guide the reader through the story, so try to figure out which role each of your characters have, and based on their personality you write what you think they'd say.

>>92077122
thick in the middle, thin at the tips. It helps if you do each each line with a slight s-shape motion

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Trying to decide on a hairstyle for the swamp woman. Any suggestions?

>>92077361
first two are a bit too 'gorgeous' and would need to be exaggerated into further tentacles.. kinda like the last one, but that one's a little too busy and a little too scraggly (you'll hate drawing it over and over)
3rd is.. kind of too gathered into two separate clumps instead of hanging limply. surely this woman's hair should be limp as fuck, like a bunch of wet overcooked green beans

>>92077416
Yeah, I liked the idea of her having tentacle-esque hair with curlers in them, like the last one, but I'd want to tighten it up a bit until it worked better.

So I should try for something in between the first two and the last one?

>>92077361
I think #4's hairstyle without the curlers hanging in it would work best for a swamp lady. It kinda looks like seaweed which works for a lady who lives on a body of water (even though seaweed doesn't grow in swamps last time I checked)

>>92077361
I like the third one, but I agree wit h>>92077416 , it looks a bit too clumpy. Maybe play with separating the locks of hair some more in that design?

>>92077361
Four is interesting, but I think it's a bit much. The third one is easily the best

>>92077444
i think that's your best bet, yeah
maybe make the hairs thin enough that you can do them entirely in lineart, a mass of thin wiry black hairs. i dunno if that'd be easier

>>92077207

Well that's true for a standard line, but I mean when looking at an entire piece or per "complete" character or object, there's more to it than just that.

Like a bold outline around the character in some places or the interior lines overall being thinner than the outline. Or how overlapping lines are bolder to make a part of the character stand out.

There's just a lot to process and I feel like there's some unknown general rule set that would make it simpler to think about.

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Polite Eurobump. Greetings from Spain, it's been a while, at this time frame, I mean.

So I was looking for stones and stuff for reference when I come across these awesome bismuth crystals and... You know, the setting of my comic is a fantasy pulp-sci fi mix that I got from a lot of my dreamscapes, and this is exactly what I had in my mind for the ancient civilization archaeological remains. Even the colorful look fits for some of them.

>>92078236
i love bismuth crystals
they resemble more than one or two kinds of real technology too, like some weird mix of pen ink and liquid crystal displays, and integrated circuitry kind of.
i also love those hexagonal basalt formations. you know the ones.
aint inspiration grand?

>>92078373
Yeah, basalt is pretty too, for landscapes. It also has that alien feel. Pyrite, too: cubes everywhere.

Sometimes, nature is the perfect model for finding inspiration.

>>92074933
What are you, gay?

Keep going you guys bump.

>>92072199
This.

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>>92069980
>Red clothes
>Red hair
>Horns
>Green eyes
Hmm, now where have I seen this before?

>>92080301
Probably a lot of places because red is associated with danger and red and green are complementary colors?

>>92075012
Cute, you should try adding some frames of her hair floating back up, and the flowers wilting, to make a proper looped gif. What program do you draw this in I love the style

ker bump

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just reposting my page from last thread cause I posted it right near when it died, also have to start doing uni work soon so possible no updates for a few weeks rip

Opinion on gays?

>>92082748
They're good. There's one gay pairing in my comic that my lesbian sister pushed me to develop and I've gotten really into them as a couple.

>>92082748
Alright in my book, so long as the relationships are actually developed well

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Alright page .1 of my fancomic
Batman:zero sum
Sorry about the halfassness of the 2nd panel but if I went back to it I would have dirtied the paper, would have made it look nice and busy but whateves you get what I'm going for hopefully.

>>92083046
Nice, dramatic looking compositions so far, though the lack of detail is a bit of a hindrance. You gonna ink this or color it? If not, I think adding some windows would make these buildings look a lot more finished.

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Fixed panel 3, I hope you can now tell she's teleporting.

>>92083046
Thank you anon! Your right, before I put all the pages on my da I'll take that suggestion and put windows on the buildings.

>>92083358
>>92083108
Meant for you

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Anyone need a colourist? Sorry, I don't have better lineart to show.

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Uploading a comic that I should have finished ages ago

1/5

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>>92083671
2/5

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>>92083691

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>>92083705
4/5

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>>92083730
5/5

And thats it, working on this helped me learn a lot, clearly mistakes were made but i'm glad I get to share my learning experience with you guys

>>92083757
Great job on the creepy faces, especially the one panel of the magicians. The lettering needs work, though, to be more readable.

>>92083730
Also, using square boxes instead of balloons for the dialogue in this page just seems random. Good job overall though.

>>92083663
You got somewhere I could contact you? I'm gonna think about it.

>>92083691
Lol
>"I kindly told him I had no space"
>"Take a hike! "
Not bad at all dude, keep it up!

>>92083798
Thank you! My handwriting is borderline illegible if i'm not super focused on it, definitely gonna have to find a way to fix that, I chose square panels because I felt it would be better than having the word balloons come from somewhere off panel, though in hindsight that may have been questionable.

>>92084024
Thanks anon!

>>92083938
sure, [email protected]

>>92083663
how much do you charge

>>92084384
I wouldn't charge. I'm in it to make webcomics, just as the rest of us.

until I get my comic to fund itself, how can I get the money to pay the artist? I don't have a car so real jobs aren't really possible right now

>>92084543
You shouldn't rely on a webcomic for income, especially if you have to invest in the art first. If you get enough money you should spend it on transportation so you can get a reliable job.

>>92051954
I guess one of the biggest questions I could ask is;

What draws you into a comic? Or what makes it a popular comic?

>>92084917
Good characters/dialogue (including humor), then art quality, then an engaging plot, then a cool setting. It's in that specific order and only the first one is 100% required.

>>92083230
I can't, actually.

I'd like to eventually become a proffesional comic book artist and writer, but is that possible to do with webcomics? I'm 29 almost becoming 30 this year. I've never done a full university course on art or writing, i've done some self studying, but my art is deviantart tier and people always tell me I need to work more on my skills whenever I show them stuff, my family and friends say I shouldn't let that get to me, but I wonder If its maybe too late for me. How do people get published anyway? Do they do webcomics? Or do they try and get things liek shortstories or comics pitches done first?

>>92082748
they're not real. if you start depicting something just because a lot of people do it, that opens up a huge door.. because a lot of people (a lot more than gay for example) do a LOT of things.

>>92085909
What? They're not real?

>>92085931
'fraid not.
but there's really nothing to gain by continuing this conversation. that ship sailed, went around the world, came back loaded with gold and spices.

>>92085961
What?

>>92085758

I'd like to eventually become a proffesional comic book artist and writer, but is that possible to do with webcomics?

It is very difficult. The art world is a very competitive field and even with webcomics you're not likely to be hired by big name companies.

>I'm 29 almost becoming 30 this year. I've never done a full university course on art or writing, i've done some self studying

If you're looking to be hired, every employer prefers if you have gone to a school and have a good background and understanding of the fundamentals of art. Even in the world of programing it's very easy to tell the difference between someone who was self taught and someone who went to school and has a background in it. Trust me when I say that not understanding the fundamentals of art has hurt me extrodinarily as self taught artists (myself especially) run the risk of falling into habits that are hard to correct making it difficult to improve leading to you having to unlearn everything you know in order to move foreword.

>I need to work more on my skills whenever I show them stuff, my family and friends say I shouldn't let that get to me

It shouldn't but you should always realize that nobody can reach perfection and that

1) There will always be people better than you
2) You can always improve your art
3) Art skill and style constantly evolves

>>92085758
Stop being a little bitch and make something.

>>92083046
That crazy perspective is so cool. like things are just blowing by at high speed.
>>92083757
Really great, but that ending is a little abrupt. It says a lot about how much I like this little story that I was hoping for a little more I guess.
>>92084917
Just making me wonder what's going to happen next.

>>92085758
Start making comics. Short ones. Finish them. The best way to learn how to make comics is by making comics. But be sure to finish what you start.

>>92086064
i thought all they cared about was your portfolio

>>92084999
Phew, thank god I got that first one.

>>92086064
From my understanding, comic publishers/other art studios really don't care about whether or not you got an art degree, they mainly care about your portfolio. Going to art school is by no means necessary to learn the fundamentals, there are plenty of self taught artists in the industry. Art school is most helpful because it helps you make connections in the industry.

>>92086222
Man, don't make posts this cringe worthy.

>>92086239
I feel like self-deprecation is appropriate in that situation. Cringey would be claiming he had all four.

>>92086358
self-depreciation requires self reflection.

>>92086358
That would only be self-deprecating if his comic had more than one of those qualities.

>>92086475
hardly. just reading the room, realizing you're not too high on the totem pole, and riffing on it.
>>92086695
on the other hand, yeah, that would have made it a lot funnier.

Have you known any cases where an artist put a comic on hiatus, took a lot of time off for rest and practice, and then "relaunched" the comic with a new story line, better art, and met with success?

>>92086866
It's hard to say, because when that happens, you pretty much forget about the hiatus. I THINK so.

>>92085758
It's mostly about connections. Knowing who you have to talk to, and knowing people who know people who work at said publisher. Publishers receive a lot of portfolios daily, but they mostly won't look at those and if they do they might not even pick one. It also depends on what kind of publisher you're approaching, because they have their way of selecting artists, and your work has to suit them.
The publisher I'll be working with has set the bar pretty high (art and story wise), and mostly works with French or French-Belgian comic artists. It's difficult to get in, and the only reason I'll be drawing for them is because of the connections I have.

>>92087208
sadly this is pretty much true
cant blame someone for being picky though if they work with french and belges, they're great

>>92085758
Do your own webcomic fabulously and get paid from your fans through Patreon

>2017 + 1/3
>still wanting to be a wageslave of a big company

Please. Liberate yourself.

Searching for a webcomic that had two women running their own sex-toy shoppe.

Does this sound familiar?

>>92089765
that sounds really familiar

mergencybump

>>92083230
his arm in the second last to panel is pretty wonky

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I'm kind of getting the hang of a character's design.

I'm thinking of some big revenge plot against mosquitos. 'Cause mosquitos are dicks.
They could be like horrible vampire like beasts that sneak in your window at night and eat your soul.

Other plot points could be a High Priestess dealing with some issues reguarding religious ceremony, a simple (but thicc) bee farmer lost and alone in a far away land, and a giant beetle gladiator desperately trying to find a home for her eggs

(Also, yes, I know the blood is red.
You don't have to tell me that.)

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Decided to start drawing again and this happened

>>92091210
mosquitos really, really are dicks. there was an awesome Mighty Max episode based around vampires where every bit of vampire lore turned out to be wrong one by one, until it turned out vampires aren't batpeople but flypeople, and their garlic is citronella

that said, a spider having a problem with mosquitos being vampires is a little hypocritical. only half their race does it, and only to feed their eggs. spiders do it nonstop

>>92091294
I think the fact that he's a horse (??? fraggle maybe?) is what makes this so perfect.

>>92092159
Spiders may very well be hypocrites.

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More Ghost Puncher!
This pic shows off main characters Atlas Haskell, Lon Chaney, El Jefe and the Anubis Pantheon, as well as some of the first opponents Atlas will face in the ring, Crassus, Doyle and Dempsea. On the far right is Thanatos, who will play a very major role in the story. I won't be revealing his plot significance yet. This is my largest Ghost Puncher art yet and I'm extremely excited to create more stuff for this upcoming webcomic!

>>92092186
Some kind of lizard.

>>92091210
anon from
>>>/tg/53002921
here.

Thanks for the link.

>>92092208
I like it, I'm gonna do something for you tommorow.

harumph!

>>92092208
loving this concept
gotta watch out for something though, you're getting into a bad habit that I see a lot (no, not in myself. never. certainly not all over the place 15 years ago when I started shading), where you're shading every little line as if it was just a little dimple in a flat surface. you really don't have to do that. you've gotta shade as if the whole thing is one complete object

>>92086115
>Really great, but that ending is a little abrupt. It says a lot about how much I like this little story that I was hoping for a little more I guess.
I didn't want to go over 5 pages for this little test, definitely plan on working more with this little world in the future though

>>92094446
I've noticed that myself too, especially when I comes to parts of the abs.
I'll take note and improve my art thanks anon
>>92092938
I'm really excited to see! Glad you like it.

Did you guys do "practice comics" before starting your actual one

are you afraid to show them to another living soul?

>>92051986
Thanks :)

I posted a comic I made in the last thread and a few people told me they really liked it

I've been doing some character design but now I can't think of anything funny for them to do

I wish I was funny

>>92086222
Ahhahahahhahahhaahahahqhhahahahhahah if only your comic was as funny as this comment

>>92094674
i do practice drawings, just to lock down what characters should be like (and more importantly, how quickly, easily, and CONSISTENTLY can I draw them?) but not the comic drawing itself. no practice there.

>>92094885
okay quick, what's something that's not funny at all to happen, but would happen to them reasonably

>>92081242

Fire alpaca.

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>>92091210
ayy

>>92084917
The first thing is usually the art, obviously. That can only take you so far, though.
Engaging plots/characters are usually what draw me in.

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>>92084999
Trips of truth.

>tfw as the writer a lot of the appeal rests on me

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>>92095130

they're roommates so maybe they could miss their rent, maybe wacky hijinks could ensue from that


this isn't the one I showed yesterday but it's the only other comic I made with them


their names are buddy and cap


I'm thinking I'm gonna get my friend to help me write them since cap is based on him

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>>92096298
I redesigned them last night after someone on /co/ asked me to make more comics

I'm going through my chatlogs with my friend to try and find funny conversations we had and maybe base some comics around those

>>92096298
there you go, see that's funny because it's unexpected
you just take the situation (like missing rent) then look at the real life consequence (landlord probably lets it slide for a month but then increasing legal pressure eventually resulting in eviction) and change it around so it's unexpectedly different. that's how you funny! like what if the landlord gets confused and starts giving THEM money
or slips a check under their door for "negative 500 bucks" for them to sign
having a buddy help is a great idea though

>>92096557
>duck william
see you totally get how humor works. it's not what you expect, but it still makes its own kind of weird sense

>>92085758
>29 almost becoming 30 this year
>trying to do comics
what a loser, get a grip

>>92095595
And how are you living up to that, anon

>>92077361
>>92091210
How do you find inspiration for creating unique-looking characters like these? I've been trying to work on a character portfolio for a scifi series, but everything I churn out is very 'safe' and generic. I can't into making appealing 'gross' characters, or creatures that stretch beyond the familiar. Every alien I churn out turns into "Lizard Guy!" or "Bug Girl!". Hardly ever anything with an identity of their own.

>>92097514
>I can't into making appealing 'gross' characters, or creatures that stretch beyond the familiar.
obviously when you started drawing, you felt a lot of pressure not to make anything mockable, so you compensated by putting style ahead of freedom and flexibility
i did it too. i dunno how you cure it but try drawing with your other hand

>>92089765
I know a comic like that, but it was an MLP thing.

>>92056559
Addition: I hadn't been keeping tabs on his work, but he's been writing a different comic which is almost identical in appearance, structure, and tone, but I think it has stronger characters. It's called Trixie Slaughteraxe for President. Again, dialogue is kind of awkward and the art is nigh-identical in quality, but it's a fun read and much shorter right now because it's ongoing.

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Did another background stylization experiment. I think this might be a solid way to simplify extremely complex environments without taking too long to draw or losing readability.

This one specifically would scroll down in an animated segment to show the full environment and stop at the bottom for the panel. This is one of those "Quest" webcomics so I need to use modular characters, props, and environments.

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>>92099996
here's how it would look as a full size panel.

>>92097156
I don't know, I'm still writing it

>>92099996
>>92100031
this looks pretty good!

>>92100031
those two tower things to the right and the three rectangles arranged like a pyramid look off-perspective, idk it's kinda bugging me cause everything else looks fine

>>92100818
Thanks!

>>92100847
I see what you mean. I'll rotate them a bit to match better.

BUMB

Does anyone here has tips on writing a character with a southern accent, without it being obnoxious, annoying and difficult too read?

>>92103603
Look into actual words/phrases used in southern vernacular (beyond the obvious "y'all" and "ain't"), avoid too many phonetic spellings. Hanging around actual southern people helps a lot, watching Paula Deen might be a decent substitute

>>92103603
Also, check out the Adventures of Huckleberry Finn and Tom Sawyer, those might make for decent jumping off points.

>>92103603
Sometimes nonverbal body language and visual cues can help with things like that.

I promise that if the first panel they're in, they're wearing something vaguely cowboy-y or leaning on something with a piece of straw in their mouth or something, and they say "y'all" or "pardner" or even something like "l'il" or "reckon", no one will have any problems reading their lines in an accent. You just gotta drive it home once and then they can be saying the most sciencey shit on the next page and we'll still read it with the accent.

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>when someone shits on your art

>>92103949
>>92104032
Thanks for the suggestions, I'll look into it! I have been doing some research on the accents and watched a few video's explaining certain words and accents. In the fist page my character uses words like "their'n" and "hafta". I hope it's enough because I don't want it to become annoying to read.
>Hanging around actual southern people helps a lot
Welp, if I didn't live in Europe that would've been a lot easier haha.

>>92104196
Hahahaha, this is the best advice. Too bad the story itself takes place somewhere Northern. I just need a way to show that one of my characters is from the South and figured his speech would be the easiest.

>>92097514
Can you post a drawing of yours as an example, Anon?

What'll turn you off from a comic? Like what are some things that you'll immediately drop a webcomic for or will eventually cause you not to read it anymore?

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Heres the fan art I promised for ghost puncher, awww didnt get to work on the batman comic, I hate being a wage cuck :( hope you like it!

>>92107161
Bad art, or artwork that's just unappealing in some way. However that's more of a personal taste thing. Other than that; comics that have more text than illustrations, like instead of conversations the characters are only there to explain stuff and the pages are filled with text.

>>92107267
not ghost puncher guy but this looks great - like a volume cover.

>>92107638
Thanks that's sorta what I was going for

>>92107161
Love Triangles.

>>92107161
Boring/tryhard characters. When I can immediately tell they're just regurgitating stuff they think is cool instead of telling a good story. Bad panel timing.

>>92107267
Dude that's amazing! This is the first piece of fan art I've ever gotten and it just melted my heart.
Thank you so much

>>92107161
Bad art. Expecting readers to be emotionally invested in the characters without proper build up. Nothing happening in the plot. Boring paneling

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I'm a bit late to the party but whatever.
Pic related is a vampire design I'm working on at the moment.
I want it to be as vile as possible. In my comic a group of adventures are tasked with exterminating this thing but it ends up in a slaughter. The only surviver goes on to become one of the main characters.

This thing hunts at night and devours as much prey as possible (wild animals, cattle, humans) then burrows underground for daytime. It can also turn mammals or generally animals with a complex nervous system into drones by injecting a cocktail of pheromones and nerve poisons which gives total controls but also kills the victims within days.

>>92108525
>boring paneling

Jesus christ this. Simplistic paneling is fine as long as it's done competently like in, say, dragon ball. But that's very rare and a bit out of date.
Actually, paneling is a glaring problem even among many published artists. I can see why amateurs and aspiring artists find it so difficult...

>>92108501
Hey no problem, good luck on your comic journey, freind.

>>92108550
It looks like a tooth, doing non-tooth things. Which makes me uncomfortable.
I like it

>>92108550
My art is crap so I think I should clarify:
The wings are attached to the centre of the body and spread outwards like a human ribcage during autopsy.
The fine bones extend in segments fron skin flaps at the wing stumps like they're growing directly out of the flesh. The skin areas inbetween the bones are newly generated each time the wings are spread.
Feeding and injecting poison is both done with the extremities, the area in the center of the body where a mouh should be is actually a cloaka, breahting is done through fine memebranes on the scalp.

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>>92108661
Yeah, I've noticed a lot of popular webcomics lately with terribly uninteresting paneling. Panel composition is tough for me too, and I can sit through some bland panels if the writing's good, but there are times where the panels just make my eyes glaze over and send me to sleep.

>>92108693
Thnaks. I guess the tooth resemblance is mostly due to the three legs. They are actually supposed to be more slender and look like thin fingers with some extra segments.
The central leg retracts during transformation and with fully spread wings the "tooth-look" will be mostly gone (I hope).

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>>92108823
Sounds grotesque, I like it, but your art is definitely restricting your ideas. You should look more into anatomy, and I mean like medical anatomy, some extra realism could make this guy's biology a lot more clear from his character design.

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What would you say works better for coloring people in crowd shots. Sort of muted colors or just no colors at all?
I tried to just color them like i would any other character but It became a bit of an eyesore

>>92108943
I like the blank look

>>92108943
Try making the background people monochrome or desaturated compared to the main characters. Not blank, but not as varied.

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Working, slowly but surely working. Here's one of the intro panels. Trying real hard to get all of chapter one done before I post anything so I have no damn reason to go on a hiatus like so many comics.

>>92108943
Try a muted monochrome, eg all orange, or no more than 2 or 3 shades of orange.

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>>92108943
Muted colors and no colors both work, unless you're really careful with your color palettes and composition colored extras often add distracting visual noise and clutter. For that top panel there, you could probably go either darker or lighter with the coloring on the extras, because right now their values are too similar to that of the background, so they blend in and don't quickly read as a crowd. The main two characters stand out better because they're the most saturated things in the panel, but you should also keep values in mind to make your focal points clearer.

>>92109027
>>92109021
>>92109005
These are some good advice. Thanks a lot!

>>92108943
blank works great for emotional or very character-centred scenes like lovers reuniting or departing, a character during depression or in chrisis etc.

It's distracting during regular scenes, the bottom panel looks unfinished.
Go with the advices for background and coloring posted before, they're all sound.

Ok, so I want to design a character/race that takes advantage of the uncanny valley to unnerve the audience without designing them to be totally evil. How exact do you draw to something be uncanny? How do you avoid the uncanny valley as well?

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>go over last week's notes from uni
>it's all comic stuff

O-oh no...

>>92110389
Have you read/watched 'a scanner darkly'?
Go read/watch 'a scanner darkly'.

>>92110407
I love seeing other people's process like this

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>>92110521
Okay then...

>>92108943
you might be over thinking it.
1st one looks fine
2nd looks like you got lazy when in actuality, you didnt.

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Idk how my web comic is going but I drew this to practice my art and coloring.

i added the extra smiley cause we're a kid-friendly board here.

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Okay, I think I have a design for her, just gotta work on the colors...

>>92111227
looks like a bus driver I once had.

I like it.

>>92107161
tranny shit
i'm learning to tolerate the gay, as long as it doesn't become some big issue, but the line must be drawn.

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Posting a test panel I made. I haven't really worked on comics since I was a kid, mind you.

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>>92112119
Related:

>>92112119
>>92112152
Love it. Do more. Specifically the black one.

>>92108661
I totally understand, but disagree entirely. Complex paneling (such as that found in cape comics) screws with me and I can't generally follow any of what's going on. I prefer a nice simple progression. It's what's IN each panel that should be engaging.