What are some of the worst relationships in cartoons/comics?

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>>92006378
I mean I get why they get paired together but god damn even what people swear is good is them being at best cute. And most couples get written as cute at some point. And then they go right back to being shit because they're bland as fuck together.

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>>92006378
Though her being paired up with Zuko would have been worse.

>>92006429
I don't know why, but there's something hilarious about Nightwing's pose in that final panel. It looks like he started to launch himself off the roof with a handstand, and then started floating away.

>>92006378
Why is the baby black?

>>92006490
There's a gif of the last panel with him flying around.

Never saved it but I'm sure somebody does.

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>>92006378

>>92006553
Dennis Hopeless' self-insert in the new Spider-Woman is also a good example of creepy self-insert love interests.

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>>92006378
It was worst and poor development relationship of all in the history of all poor development relationship of all.

>>92006553
thank god superhero/normal person relationships are dead for people who aren't Superman, because I don't know if I could handle him shitting up Titans

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>>92006507
She's white. Though Eve did cuck Mark with some alien, but in her defense he went missing for years and she thought he was dead.

But for every good thing that happens to them, something horrible happens a few pages later. Their relationship is shit.

>>92006637
Well, it is Korra.

>>92006507
Are you blind?

>>92006640
Titans literally has a superhero normal person relationship in it.

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>>92006646
>Though Eve did cuck Mark with some alien

Not just some alien, a straight up alien chad.

>>92006775
Who wears a muscle shirt unironically,
>>92006378
Wonderwoman-superman/batman

>>92006612
Hank never deserved Janet

>>92006716
But Wally and Donna are gonna fuck.

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This pairing manages to make the impossible: make two of the nicest, sweetest, easiest going heroes in the industry look like horrible people. Specially Wonder Woman.

It's based on pure superficiality and elitism and have some weird notions of eugenics.

>>92007311
>eugenics

Wonder Woman is made of clay. She doesn't have genes to begin with.

>>92006848
People with muscles, dead beat dads and wife beaters.

>>92006472
>Though her being paired up with Zuko would have been worse.
You're retarded.
Who the fuck did you want her with then?

>>92007311
Superbro was a bro that helped the best he could. You saying that shit just proves that you don't know what are you talking about. But no surprise there, you don't really read comic books.

>>92007621
Soka?

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Batgirl and batman

>>92007311
It was just bad writting

>>92007671
I'm gonna say it, Timm and his ntr fetish is fucking annoying.

>>92007671
I still find it hilarious that getting punched in the face is what caused the miscarriage

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>>92007639

Do you think The New 52 was the first time they were ever paired together?

And the drama between the two would sometimes make Superbro look insecure, judgmental and neurotic as fuck.

>>92007683

The problem isn't just general bad writing, but the concepts the pairing focus on. There's a reason 90% of the pairing stories are bad.

>>92007760
I don't see a single issue with that page. If you can't handle a little humanity in your character, then perhaps the one who has a problem to begin with is you.

>>92007602

You do know most creation myths have humans being created from mud, right?

the Problem they Keep push this two when they are so Bad

>>92007800
Also, I don't give two shits about SuperWondy or whatever the hell you call it. Superbro was a bro, period.

Man the art in Invincible sure went to shit after the first Conquest arc.

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>>92006472
>>92006637
>>92006679

>>92007621
She should die alone.

>>92007864
Korra is, and will always be, shit. Lesbians or not.

>>92006429
I personally think Dick works better with Kory, and I'd like to see them explore a relationship between Jason and Babs, but only after he's one a bit more villainous, because they work best when she represents a standard for him to reach, while he represents the limits she won't cross. There's also the shared Joker-trauma, assuming they haven't retconned Killing Joke out of Babs' backstory entirely.

Korra is how to make a shitty romance every season

>>92006429
I always thought that it they should have more of a brother/sister relationship.

>>92007928
Like ATLA so it did one thing true to the source.

>>92007800

Humanity isn't categorized only by terrible behavior.

>>92007831

Superbro was a bro in other comics, mainly Action Comics and Batman/Superman. In comics like Justice League and Superman/Wonder Woman he was terrible. Learn to separate things.

>>92006879
You're right. He never did anything awful in his life before she showed up and started pushing him to use his super-science for mass heroism so she could get attention, and pushed a socially-awkward nutcase with previous wife trauma to a life punching people in the spotlight.

The two of them have massive flaws, it's what makes them interesting as a couple.

The most Problem the way you write Wonderbat in JL animation was great smart writing in new 52 sup/Wonder was qhit pure wrting

>>92006429
W-Why did they make him do that somersault off the ledge?

>>92006637
They didn't have to develop it.
If anyone had a problem with their shitty writing, they could claim homophobia.

>>92007311
>you're strong
>i know
>let's make babies now

>>92007959
>Humanity isn't categorized only by terrible behavior.

And insecurity isn't terrible, it's natural. If you can't stand the fact that he got angry, that sometimes he liked the idea of punching a guy in the gut (and everyone feels that way) or that he used to flirt with girls (and almost had a thing with a black chick) then you should be the one that should look very deeply into the mirror and question what the hell are you doing.

Superbro was a bro.

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>>92007921
>wishing poor Jason to suffer that horrible cunt

anon you are sick!

also, Barbara got BTFOd pretty hard already

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Don't hate on me, /co/.
It's just bland as fuck.

>>92008108
>tfw you were a BB/Starfire and Robin/Raven shipper back in the day

>>92006637
I still don't see them together.

It's simply something the developers kept hearing people say and went "sure let's call it canon" knowing it won't change anything cause it's over now.
Same thing happened for Dumbledore.

Let's be honest, the overwhelming majority of comic book relationships are bad. That's just how it is. Even if a relationship is well done with one writer, the next one can come in and shit all over it so badly that it never recovers even if there is a reboot.

>>92008084
Babs is cute. She also can be a fun character when they aren't trying to push an agenda with her.

>>92008073

What the fuck are you even ranting about? I'm discussing about the general suckiness of SM/WW because of how writers tend to twist the characters to focus on stupidity.

You instead seem to be thinking that i'm attacking the Nu52 version of Superman for some reason and ranting about some unrelated shit. Nu52 Superman had tons of nice stories, but it is a fact that his stories focusing on the SM/WW were at best mediocre.

>>92008154
Because most comic book writers don't know what an actual relationship between human people is.

>>92006612
They haven't been together in a long time.


>>92007996
She also took advantage of his fragile mental state to get him to marry her.

Marvel Adventures Hank and Jan is the only time the couple worked. Because Jan is Giant Girl and with the Avengers while Hank is happily doing science with his ants.

>>92007714
That's not NTR.

Rarely you find good long relationship like Reed and Sue

>>92008084
Jason don't settle for Dick's sloppy seconds and I respect him for that.

>>92007921
Jason is for Amazons to bully now

>>92008215
>impregnating your foster son's love interest

Seems pretty NTRish to me.

I love Jason Artemis every Bat boys have a Wonder Amazon to fuck

>>92008219
But Sue is underdeveloped for how interesting and important she is, she's usually just a tagalong to Reed's adventures or the capable mother who cleans up his messes.

>>92008234

>what is Red Hood and the Outlaws with Starfire and Rose Wilson

>>92008139
What happened to change your mind?

>>92007621
toph

>>92008282
Dick and Donna is pure sibling platonic relationship, don't ruin that.

>>92008282

Where's Dick's amazon?

And no, Donna doesn't count despite the sexual tension and that weird dream Dick had once during Chuck Dixon's era where he was married to Donna and she cheated on him with Bruce.

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>>92008219
Sue has her moments. She's more of a slut than she lets on.

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>>92006378

>>92008290
>>92008290
Jason expressly refused to pork Starfire because she's Dick's squeeze.

>>92008290
He didn't stick his dick in them

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>>92008320
>After swimming with the sensational sub-mariner

So that's what kids call it today...

>>92006637
>b-but thet sent letter to each other between seasons!

>>92008373
didn't he though, at the beginning of their run together, in the island?

if not, then mad respect for Jazz

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>>92008139
How does this pic make you feel, anon?

>>92008171
Superbro was a bro!

>>92008373
>>92008389

Not true.

Scott Lobdell plan was to have Jason, Roy and Kory as fuckbuddies, but after the backlash he started to portray Roy and Kory as a proper couple. He then after various arcs had Jason regretting never fucking Kory and letting his chance go, but feeling relieved by telling himself that it was for the best because he now had a friend in her.

When Rose Wilson appeared she and Jason were bickering like exes and talking about their past trysts which was never alluded before.

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>>92006378
Fuck Bendis for making this a thing and fuck Hopeless for continuing it and teasing a breakup only to double down on it.

>>92008441

Yes, we already established... that.

>>92008338
Thankfully it looks like it's being ignored.

>>92008431
Nah, she wanted to be but he shot her down so she went and got some of that Arsenal dick.

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>>92008282
>Dick/Donna

anon, thats fucking incest

and not the good kind like pic related

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>>92007311
Gotta disagree. The rough, inexperienced nature of them that time around had a certain appeal to me. The basis for what I wanted for them was there, I just had to wait for them to grow into their roles.
I thought that the nu52 Superman/Wonder Woman relationship was great, I really wanted it to work. But I get where you are coming from, there was a certain level of depth missing. Every time they get together, it has to end with "OMG SOMETHING NEEDS HELP!" I wanted more moments with just Clark and Diana interacting with the world, let when Superman brings Wonder Woman over to Smallville to eat pancakes at a diner, then he shows her where he grew up and talks about his parents. Or when they went dancing at a night club, just enjoying being in love with each other. But too often these moments would ultimately be interrupted by the need for punching to save people from monsters.
They are two honest, genuine people with a great capacity to love, and I loved the idea of them being together.

>>92008489

Hopeless not only doubled down on it, but he did in the worst manner possible by revealing that Laura only tried to chance her behavior and be the new Wolverine because Warren would constantly berate her for being a self-harming autist with loathing issues, so she decided to change her entire shit so she wouldn't lose him.

>>92008282
Who's Damian's Wonder Woman?

>>92007671
If it makes you feel any better, grant morrison has unconfirmed that in the main continuity

Daman still didn't find his Amazon hope soon i like him with Raven in movie

>>92008578
>>92008666

Damian has Diana.
shes gonna cuck Bruce for some good /ss/

>>92006378
Lapis and Peridot aren't IN a relationship but them constantly being together and acting like useless autists ruined both of their characters and is a big shit-stain on SU

Damian will definitly do it

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>>92008320
I don't think she's ever actually cheated on Reed though. Doesn't stop Namor though. He has come close to making her suck on his fishstick a few times, but I don't ever remember her going all the way.

>>92006429
Dick honestly has the worst main pairings.

>Dick/Babs
bland as shit with one or both of them being written like garbage for the sake of the pairing

>Dick/Kory
Sexy at best with Dick usually being written terribly because it usually happens in a Titans book, and NTT is a terrible soap opera.
Though I will give this one points for actually being developed and cute at times even if it stopped being an okay pairing when NTT stopped being good in the late 80s.

>Dick/Shawn
Kill your OC, Seeley

>Dick/Helena
too underdeveloped in new 52/rebirth
but was mostly garbage pre flashpoint because Grayson's ideas had the two wildly out of character and pathetic, and Simone clearly did not like the pairing

and then you got the ones that could've been good because the characters had some chemistry at some point and they were written okay to good when under the same writer
>Dick/Rose
I wish Priest had been able to age her up because she's too underaged to work

>Dick/Kate Spencer
fuck that cliffhanger in that Manhunter backup and fuck the reboot

>Dick/Peeg
fuck the reboot, they were fun in the small arc they were together

>>92008846
That's some shit taste there anon.

>>92008215

It's emotional betrayal. It's NTR.

>>92008561
That and the jealousy on the face of Lois and Lana was hilarious.

>>92008281
Dick had left Barbara way before then

>>92009306

You don't date your son's ex lmao. Especially not his first love, and not when they still have feelings for each other.

>>92009450
Bullshit. That Barbara doesn't love anyone (except maybe her dad) and probably never will.

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>>92006429
Barbara is just shit overall.

>>92009473

Are you going to address anything else or is that ignorant statement all you got?

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wolverine rogue

>>92009544
Well, she did ended alone and bitter. Unable to make any important or durable relationships, Dick hated her and burned down any bridges he had with her. Bruce rarely talks to her and all she got is a kid that only talks to her when a super villain goes "Mwahahaha" on the dystopia that is future Gotham.

You could argue that she didn't really loved anyone, outside of his own family, that much. Timm seems to be a man that is all about taboo relationships and seems to insert a bit of cheating and emotional distress in his works. Soooo... yeah, she probably didn't really loved her peers that much, she cared about them but not enough not to betray them or hurt their feelings. BTAS Babs seems like a very selfish woman.

>>92009609
What is this? Wolverine actually being short?

>>92008561

>They are two honest, genuine people with a great capacity to love, and I loved the idea of them being together.

See. That's the exact problem with SM/WW. In stories focusing on them as a couple the characters are almost never able to be that way.

Wonder Woman always turn into a arrogant, temperamental and reckless warrior with little to no compassion to show and an almost prejudiced view of humanity.
Superman sometimes turn into a introverted and morose hero with a god complex.

Then there's the issue with writers focusing more on the traits that makes them alien and stand out from the rest of humanity - super-hero life-style, super-powers, immortality, inability to have a sexual relations with others, etc - than on their human-like qualities, with the consistent conflict of the idea if their might make them right in deciding the fate of the world. Then there is the celebrity couple bullshit that does nothing to make things better.

>>92008561

>I thought that the nu52 Superman/Wonder Woman relationship was great, I really wanted it to work.

I bet you give no crap about Wonder Woman's character.

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>>92006612

nah

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>>92009782

Why Wonder Woman always become a Punisher-wannabe when close to Superman? It's like he was her Red Kryptonite or something. After just one kiss she already start to entertain notions of deposing the world's leaders or someshit.

>>92008846
There's also
>Dick/That metahuman model in New York who he banged for a while when Jason was pretending to be Nightwing

>>92008521

Jason didn't shot her down. The comic started with Jason bragging about nailing her, then that was just dropped and next thing you know you had an issue of Jason lamenting never hitting her when he had the chance.

>>92009973
Fuck that was bad

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>>92007921
If you'd want to explore a relationship like that, N52 Supergirl would have likely been a better choice, given Kara and Jason's similair arc of acceptance of their place within their worlds. And, had they not regressed Kara's character with DC Rebirth, they would be at the opposit sides of the spectrum. She'd be following Superman's example, while he'd continue his lethal methods.

>>92006378
>Start thread about worst relationships in comics/cartoons
>Starts with one that's actually pretty okay
They're not history's greatest power couple or anything, but Eve and Mark's relationship is written reasonably well. It develops believably, they've got decent chemistry, it runs into genuine problems that they have to overcome, etc.

>>92010041

Honestly, while that made sense at that point i was already rolling my eyes with Jason being paired with all the characters that was once paired with Nightwing.

>Starfire
>Essence who was pretty much Not-Raven
>Rose Wilson
>Batgirl
>Supergirl

It was like, come on...

>>92009690
>BTAS Babs seems like a very selfish woman.
In Batman Beyond and The New Batman Adventures, sure. I'd have to take issue with that assessment of the version from Batman: The Animated Series proper, though.

>>92010029
I think the only two good things to come from that run were:
>The page where Superman is in the graveyard with Dick and the rent-a-cop
>The story where Harvey Dent hires Dick to protect a D.A. from a mysterious assassin who is actually Two-Face

>>92009719
And yet when they kiss he becomes taller.

>>92010183
That was Tomasi's run which came after that and was actually pretty alright

On par with Dixon and early Grayson at least which was pretty alright as well

>>92006612
Daily reminder that this panel was the result of a miscommunication between the writer and the artist, then there wasn't enough time to change it.

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>>92010081
Also their kid is fucking adorable.

>>92010345
She looks like Olive Oyl.

>>92008489
Is that All New Angel and Wolverine? Ew. I don't like that. I'm glad I don't read Bendis comics and haven't kept up with X-Men stuff.

>>92008575
Oh, wow. I hate that

>>92006507
its white and gold

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>>92010081
I agree, but I hope all their relationship drama is done. Everytime they seem happy, some shit goes down and ruins it leading to some sort of falling out between them. It gets tiring after a while.

>>92007639
Actually, he said nothing about Superbro except that that pairing is shit.
I actually agree; it just detracts from both characters while adding nothing and ultimately only for the reason of "they wear most of the same colors".

>>92010472
Well we've only got, what? Like six issues left in the series?

Pretty sure the funeral fight was the last bit of drama. They're very clearly focused on whatever the plan is to take out Freddie Mercury.

>>92008489
>they could have made a Laura X young Cyke X Young Jean love triangle to subvert the old old

but nooooo she fucks Angel because

>>92010195
Because the shortness is part of his mutation, obviously.

>>92009782
Yeah, you summed it up nicely.
It's a superficial as fuck pairing for superficial as fuck reasons and thus the writing ends up being extremely superficial and shallow and doesn't involve any of the actual compelling parts of the two characters.

>>92009963
Diana needs a mortal, Steve or Bruce, to stay grounded and to keep in touch with humanity. It seems like every time she goes for the Superdick, she gets close to becoming Injustice Wondy.

>>92010535
More like 15. It ends at 150.

>>92010925
Steve is like a father figure or mentor than a love interest and Bruce has is own issues... how the hell can he ground anyone?

Writers just need to stop forcing unnecessary contrived drama for the sake of some shock value that ends damaging the characters.

>>92008084
What's up with the mask?

>>92010925

Honest answer: the real problem is not even that. Superman and Wonder Woman are human as fuck. In theory them as couples should generate tons of cute slice of life moments.

The real problem are the writers having their heads up their ass and being consistently fixated on these weird ideas of these characters. For example they have Superman giving up on his human identity in some way and accepting his "godhood", or being more Super than Man in some way, because basically they want a chad-like hero. Then they've Wonder Woman being a Xena-like warrior that live and breath violence, even getting hot and bothered by being roughed up by a superior male, because ultimately the whole thing is about the fetish of an alpha male taming a strong woman and turning her into his submissive follower. So we've this consistent thing where WW always exalt Superman as a god and not understand why he acts so human-like or bow down to humans like that.

Seriously, i've never see a pairing bring so many weird shit like that from writer's minds. Specially when you see how normal and sweet the characters originally are. It feels like those weird fanfic where they take Sonic and turn him into the edgiest thing ever.

>>92011238
Rocafort drew it with a mouth (it works best with his style) and artists followed his lead, with varying (mostly shitty) results.

>>92008084
>Jason: Fuck that sloppy seconds shit. I'm out.

>>92007639
Why are superbro fans so angry?

>>92008147
Dumbledore had the benefit of it not mattering cause he was old as fuck and he had jobs to do.

>>92007671
When it's portrayed as a bad thing, Bruce/Babs is probably the most interesting pairing for Batman.

>>92010010
If that happened in Tynion's run, it never happened. Jay never got it on with Star.

>>92011213

Bruce worked well in the DCAU cartoons and Joe Kelly's JLA run. Specially the latter where they bonded over philosophy and martial arts, pushed each other buttons to mess with one another and ultimately decided to not pursue a relationship because their mission came first.

>>92008073

When will the appeal to nature fallacy finally fucking die?

>>92011545

Everything i said came from Lobdell's run.

>>92009495
>you will never touch Kory's abs

>>92010965
thought it was at 142

>>92007311
Superman is the worst pair for Wonder Woman, is like "wonder woman needs a boyfriend so let´s search for someone more powerful than her, there is no way for a woman to be paired with a man who can bench less than her".

They need to go barda/scott route or maybe a normal sweet guy that stay at home, does great spaghetti and loves her not knowing that she is Wonder Woman princess of the amazon, just a guy that is nice to diana for being diana and not impressed by her powers or embodiment of truth and love.

>>92008108
it was bland because it was for a kid shows and they ship the comic relationship without some development in the cartoon.

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>>92011213

Bruce can make Diana have a more tempered view of the human's nature and the world's societies, by showing that men in all its complexity can be good, as well make her have a more realistic outlook on her holy mission, that she doesn't have to base all her worth on fulfilling an almost impossible mission when just working on it is on itself good enough.

But then... you don't really need Batman at all for that. Steve Trevor can work in that vein well enough. That's why i'm optimistic about the movie. I feel that they're going with the cynical with a heart of gold approach with DCEU Trevor.

>>92011551
In DCAU, Wondy was pissed she couldn't get one date. She was the one trying to pursue something. Not a good look for her really but made Batman look cool. He would've rather dated Babs too

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>>92006378

>>92011958

You should re-watch the old cartoons then because the first they they teased something going on between the characters was when Wonder Woman was buried under a rubble after trying to contain a warhead. Batman lost his mind worried sick about her safety and started to try dig her out frantically not caring that he was hurting his hands. Then Wonder Woman dug herself up fine and completely oblivious about Batman's behavior or the reason behind it.

The episode served to show that Batman was completely infatuated with her while Wonder Woman was totally unaware of his feelings or even about notions of romance.

Then through Hawkgirl teasing and her interactions with Steve Trevor during WWII she became aware of things like that and started to notice how the usually distant and stoic Batman would act uncharacteristically warm and caring with her. She then set out to tease him about it to test him and enjoy herself witnessing him spilling his spaghetti over her. It was only then that she started to develop feelings for him.

Even that episode where he listed the reasons why they wouldn't work ended with him singing in front of a audience his feelings for her because he needed to make embarrass himself by baring his soul in order to restore her from a curse.

So tell me again how Batman looked cool when the whole point is that he didn't felt worth enough to be with her despite being in love and would constantly make a fool of himself when it came anything relating her.

>>92011940
Nemesis wasn´t a bad choice either in his time

>>92012394

Yup. He was pretty much a nicer and uncomplicated Batman.

>>92006585

I am going to monitor this thread just in the hopes somebody posts said gif.

>>92006378
pic not related then

>>92008108
on their defense, the comics did it better

>>92012031
Even the man who CREATED that subplot considered it resolved long ago, and when it first got brought up again in 1988 it is all but outright said in the narrative that this was editorially mandated bullshit and then dropped again, and when it comes up AGAIN they outright say in the comic that nothing that's going on makes any sense when compared to anything that happened before and it's almost like some higher power is changing all the bullshit to the way it was before the character development happened.

Also, he's five foot nothing and she's eight inches taller then he is.

>>92012509
I used to have it and wish I still did.

>>92010535
I'm curious in to how are they going to close the whole Robot taking over earth
Also i hope once Kirkman is done with Invincible he pics back some of his other characters like Wolfman and Tech Jacket.

>>92012309

The thing i liked about DCAU Wonder Woman is that she was completely unaware about the more traditional and selfish romantic dynamic and the deeper workings of sexual relations. It was an extremely concept for her that she got to learn more about slowly through the life of the people around her until she finally met a man - DCAU Steve Trevor was one of the best versions of him, i wished he had survived and followed the JL to the future somehow - that her experience all the emotions she had slowly learned about. Then that relation gave her a broader understanding that shed some light to how some men around her actually felt about her.

It was a very nice character development that made a lot of sense for such an innocent and sheltered character. You know, instead of the character instantly following in love with a man she had just met without knowing more about him other than superficial shit.

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>>92008139
Not shipping guy but damn if those aren't better

>>92012608

>Also, he's five foot nothing and she's eight inches taller then he is.

I always have an internal KEK when i remember that Wolverine, a hairy and gruff manlet with poor hygiene, fucked pretty much all the MU established heroines and villains.

All because writers self-inserted as him.

>>92011573
do you have the page?

>>92013861

God... it would give me a lot of trouble, but i remember right was from Lobdell's second run on the first series. It's right before Starfire start to doing space meth.

>>92006472
I wish everyone in ATLA remained single.The romance was so bad. LoK was even worse with it.

>>92008436

warm and fuzzy.

>>92010345
It's pretty obvious that Kirkman's viltrumite hybrids work on saiyan genetics.

The fact that Freddie Mercury actually felt Terra's kick even if it didn't hurt him and commented on her strength should be clear enough.

>>92012701
I started reading Wolfman, but... it felt flat.
Does it get better?

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>>92006378
Literally no reason other than "they from africa"

>>92010452
Wolverine yea but not the original. It's his clone daughter Laura aka X-23

>>92014342
then why is mark still such a weak shit

>>92014708

He's one of the most powerful people in the universe. How is he weak?

>>92014342
I wouldn't consider being able to go toe to toe with Conquest weak shit.
It's just the Freddie is overpowered.
Kinda like superman and superboy prime.

>>92014388
yes, specially after a character does a heel turn.

>>92014708
Mark managed to effectively kill old freddy mercury twice. He's not invincible (heh) but he's one of the stronger freddies. I assume the biggest issue is that he hasn't grown his mustache out yet.

>>92014708
>>92014834
Replied to the wrong post.

>>92014850
Kirkman pulls a Saiyan-recovery in issue 132.
This one however was brought upon by Eve. So I'm not sure if it counts as one.

Come to think of it, After defeating Battle Beast, has Freddie become stronger as well?

>>92007311
>bitch wonderwoman

I feel this is the most entertaining and honest portrayal of person froma society based on strength.

>>92008511
Venditti finally does something right!

>>92015067

But... her society isn't based on strength at all.

Think about it, the amazons isolated themselves after being brutally raped by Herakles and his chad friends. They were overwhelmed by his superior strength and enslaved because of it suffering his brutish ways. So once liberated by the gods they took their shit and hid themselves from the world, training only so they could better defend themselves from ever suffering something similar again. They train so they can remain at peace isolated without bothering anyone. They regard men as wicked and brutish, only knowing how to oppress and use others.

So why would they society be based on strength, something they accuse men to be all about?

>>92015202

Not to mention that not every amazon is a trained fighter. There are amazons that never picked up a spear or sword, deciding to rather be priestess or scholars.

But hey! This is Brian Azzarello's amazons, that did nothing but spar and go out to murder rape sailors.

>>92007311
That's the first time I've ever seen WW described as easy-going.

>>92008147

Dumbledore was flamboyant as fuck though, and was revealed to have an unhealthy obsession with someone who was a) handsome and b) a robot of a human who was essentially a magic White supremacist.

>Plum velvet suit
>Blushes when his earmuffs get complimented
>Proclaims the power of love above all else
>Never entered a relationship despite being nearly universally loved AND literally the strongest wizard in the country if not the world
>Wears women's clothing every chance he gets, such as when he wears Neville's grandmother's hat
>Hated his parents, thought his siblings were bores
>His brother was a goat fiddler (not really relevant, but still)
>His odd rants using made up words for shits and giggles
>Dicks over the house of prejudiced assholes every chance he gets
>'Ah music, a magic beyond anything we study here'

It fit, yet it didn't matter to the story whether you took it out or not. Is this not what /co/ desires from these kinds of relationships, gay people who are just people?

>>92006472
Her and Zuko actually had some chemistry.

>>92015027
Freddy Murdery wasn't that fucked up
The instances in which the characters in Invincible go up in the power scale are always after a lethargic recovery. Either Mark or Allen or whatever, they spend some time in a coma after a bashing AND THEN they become stronger

>>92015658
no we desire them not to be in media at all

remember when dick found out Barbara was paralyzed, fucked her, and then the morning after invited her to his wedding to Starfire

>>92006775
Yeah but that's not the same when people think you're dead 5 years later and move on with their lives.

Technically the blue chad is the cuck because was helping raise Mark's kid.

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>>92008354

>>92017545
that's not how cuckolding works. mark is the cuck because 1. his girlfriend is being fucked
2. someone else is raising his kid so he gets cucked out of that

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>>92017654
It seems you don't understand the meaning of the word cuck.

allow me.

>>92017654
>>92017791
If it makes you feel uncomfortable it is cucking, according to 4chan's rules. Like that picture of the black stepdad with the white stepdaughter and idiots were saying "haha wite boi got cucked" even though the white dad had remarried anyway.

>>92016267
That's because Zuko had chemistry with everyone he shared screen time with except Mai

>>92017654
>that's not how cuckolding works.

cuckolding works by raising a kid that isn't yours. usually this means your girlfriend being unfaithful and fucking someone else, so the kid you think is yours is not yours.

no one got cucked in this situation, there's just a lone chad who got together with a milf who is raising a kid alone.

>>92014515
Standing off to the side like a good little wife really does not suit Ororo.

>>92011213

>unnecessar contrived drama
>commenting on serialized superhero comics

>>92017545
You are right except for the raising kid part. He explicitly wanted nothing to do with the kid and that is the reason why it didn't work out between them. He just wanted to keep fucking Eve with no strings attached.

Also I'm sure it felt like that for Mark himself. It wasn't five years for him. He came back after what he thought was a short trip and finds out that his daughter grew up without him and his wife was fucking somebody else.

>>92018078
>no one got cucked in this situation, there's just a lone chad who got together with a milf who is raising a kid alone.

If the father was actually dead that would be completely right, but I still maintain that blue chad is technically the cuck.

>>92015658
>Dumbledore was flamboyant as fuck though
Which is not an indication of being gay.

>>92007753
You know it can right? If the mother suffers enough stress it can cause a miscarriage.

>>92009690
>she did ended alone and bitter.
She was married to the Mayor in Beyond.

>>92008575
>but he did in the worst manner possible
are we surprised about this? has a name ever been more apt

>>92008846

I can honestly get why people might not like Shawn, but I like the parallels drawn from him and Batman by being together with a "villain"

I also support Dick/Supergirll whenever the writers are ready for that amazing pairing

But mainly I want a future issue where the Supersons are a little older and in charge of babysitting Nightwing/Supergirl baby

>>92012608
He's 5'3.

>>92019138

The problem with Shawn is that she's just too generic, the relationship between them was just too sudden and now the characters are super in love. It seems contrived and forced.

>>92011691
Fucking this - why can't WW have a Lois Lane?

>>92019816
She does, his name is Steve Trevor

>>92008636
How and where?

>>92008795
She's cheating on him in that pic, duderino.

>>92020229

They just swept spits and then she sucked him for a bit. That can hardly consist cheating.

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Cyclops and... well anyone really

Beast Boy and Raven

They literally only did it because Robin and Starfire were a thing and Cyborg was black.

>>92020399
>emotionally unavailable, unwaveringly dedicated to the cause Cyclips is dead and probably won't come back

Fuck this gay earth

>>92006637
Bryke trying to tell the audience that they always planned this ship and that there were obvious signs leading up to this relationship triggers me off the most. Both claims are obvious lies and I can't believe they expect us to believe it.

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When people ask me why I like this pairing, I can't do anything but shrug because it was nothing short of a horrible, horrible trainwreck

>>92018078
>cuckolding works by raising a kid that isn't yours
no it doesnt you fucking idiot. it works by your partner cheating on you you fucking moron

>>92020399
except if he is married to you in which case you gonna get cucked