Why do these assholes just stand by and watch as Aku does as

>>91992467
I think they don't kill Aku because they don't consider him a big enough threat to be concerned about, so they just gave it to some asshole to take care of it.

did birth of evil remind anyone else of the wrkncacnter?

>>91992536
This. Deities don't like to get their hands dirty unless they absolutely have to. They have astral shit to attend to, they usually just choose a mortal and send them on epic quests.

Name any major deity in any religion that isn't an asshole or who actually helps humanity more than it fucks it over.

>>91992467
The only reasonable answer is that they don't see Aku is a huge threat yet, some they assign the task to someone else

>>91992536
>>91992627
>>91992655
They considered him a threat when he was just chilling, floating through space and he didn't even have a corporeal form yet. Why wouldn't they consider him a threat now?

>>91992655
This.
Gods are like harsh parents or teachers to humanity. They will NEVER solve the problem for us, but they'll give us the tools to fix it ourselves.
They gave us the sword and designated a badass warrior to do the deed. And he fucking did. And in case that wasn't enough, he started planning a counter attack for a return that he was right about.
And had Jack failed and died, then humanity would have gone to shit because the gods would have deemed us unworthy to keep living or something.

>>91992536
>>91992627
>>91992636
>>91992655
I don't know /co/.
Aku has enslaved like entire galaxies and tons of alien races.
If that's not a big enough threat to be addressed by them then idk what is

>>91992711
Because Aku is just a tiny portion of the original mass of evil that they were fighting.
Now if it were a billion Akus then they might pay closer attention.

>>91992711
Because back then it had the power to kill gods. Imagine what something like that could do to entire galaxies. Now Aku is a different kind of threat. The black mass he used to be could extinguish the whole cosmos. Aku however can only hope to conquer it without threatening its existence. That's a minor matter to the gods.

>>91992718
Again, Aku is not a threat to the universe itself, only to its inhabitants. I know it doesn't sound that coherent, but that's the way gods think. Creating an intergalactic empire is A-Okay for them. Destroying the universe is not, and that's what that black mass would have done had it had the time.

>>91992752
>>91992755
>Don't finish what they started
>It's someone else's problem now

Gods are fags.

>>91992467
Because it's a classic part of the heroes quest anon.

Gods exist not to solve the hero's problem, but to give tools to let them overcome it.

>>91992467
Because they know that the show wouldn't exist if they defeated Aku completely.

>>91992718
Gods only really directly fight other gods or godlike entities. Aku is a pretty powerful demon, but his power-level isn't even really close to theirs. They'd step in if Cthulhu or Galactus came around, but Aku is small potatoes.

>>91992467
>Questioning Gods
Shut up atheists

>>91992848
yeah that sounds about right

>>91992848
Not going to argue with that.

>>91992467
watch Birth of Evil
/thread
>>91992711
Aku is stuck on Earth

>>91992929
I think Aku could beat Cthulhu and Galactus or at least reach a stalemate.
I do wonder if Jack's sword would be able to kill an elder god or other major entities.

>>91992467
Which one is the poo God
I want to say it's some avatar of Vishnu but I don't know which one

>>91992467
You're going to lead this discussion to the topic of religion faster than you know with this question.

>>91993014
>Aku is stuck on Earth
Nah, he can travel through the universe with no problem. He just likes it better on Earth.

The thing that bugs me the most is why an Egyptian, Indian and Norse god are relying on a Samurai.

Why isn't there a Japanese god? Did Aku kill him? Is Aku the Japanese god?

>>91993014
I did watch Birth of Evil.
It doesn't explain why they gave the task to destroy Aku to a human when they could have easily just snuffed him out when he was at his weakest form and called it a day.

>>91993036
Aku was defeated by Elementals.

>>91993066
Aku is a piece of Yahweh aka the Demiurge

>>91993066
Izanagi kinda sucks

>>91993052
The one on the right.

>>91993066
a good portion of the big-league japanese gods aren't kind to humans

>>91993066
You know come to think of it, what Aku came from could fit the description of the August Star of Heaven

>>91992798
If Aku can travel through space, like he did when hired the lion-men alien hunters, Why he just not abandon the Earth, conquer another planet and stays there? Jack will never go anywhere beyond the atmosphere.

>>91993014
>Aku is stuck on Earth

He literally flew like a rocket direct to the imakandi planet

>>91993202
>Jack will never go anywhere beyond the atmosphere.
I believe he did that in episode 3 or 4.

>>91993176
Odin and Vishnu were never really kind either, don't know about Ra.

>>91993202
why should aku have to run from a single, puny, worthless samurai?

>>91993088
>>91993088
The elementals were also created by a goddess, only stuff that has divine origin can defeat him

>>91993261
Galactus does have divine powers.

>>91993251
vishnu is often depicted as a protector for the world though so it makes sense for him to be there
odin is odin and it's easy to connect him to fighting a great evil

>>91993261
Which leads me to wonder why some demigod or other creature of divine origin has never challenged aku....

>>91993238
I've never understood why jack hasn't tried that super-speed way of time travel again, surely he could find another group of scientists willing to help somewhere

>>91993331
All cientists from earth are working for Aku

>>91993312
Isn't vishnu like the destruction aspect of brahmin or something? I am very hindu ignorant

>>91992467
their behavior was consistent (we gave you a way to handle it, now handle it. we're busy) until they suddenly took time out to TALK to him
if you have that kind of time, you could just solve the problem.. a lot faster.

also why did they care about his kimono and chonmage? i mean surely he never shaved before, he just couldnt grow a beard yet because sometimes asians need a running start

>>91993381
I think that is Shiva

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>>91993088
Good point. Aku could defeat the Guardian of Time? Aku says he destroyed all time portals in the Earth. He could find the great Portal of the Guardian? If not, when Aku be defeated in the Future, Jack will become old, reconstruct the future and so will be worthy of traveling back to past, like in the vision of the portal? Why he would need to do that? He coming back to the past is creating a new line of history? That all is a mess of continuity.

>>91993381
that's shiva

>>91993202
Aku sort of enjoys fucking over Jack multiple times in the show.

>>91993408
either genndy forgot, aku doesn't know about the guardian or the guardian is dead and the portal blasted

>>91993391
It would have been much beter if Jack was given the same kind of armor his dad was given.

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>>91992636
>God isn't real because life is hard sometimes

Why are atheists such petulent children?

>>91993331
>implying Jack understood any of that shit when it happened
What's he even going to ask? "Small men with glass helmets used big fire stick to fly their chariot to heaven and somehow make magic portal, CAN YOU DO THIS TOO??!"

>>91993052
Rama is the one with the bow and arrows so I would assume it's a loose interpretation of him.

>>91993467
Genndy has already stated the Guardian's going to be addressed. So one way or another, we'll see.

>>91993510
>yfw it was addressed by aku saying that he destroyed all the time portals

>>91993473
Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able?
Then he is not omnipotent.

Is he able, but not willing?
Then he is malevolent.

Is he both able and willing?
Then whence cometh evil?

Is he neither able nor willing?
Then why call him God?
-Epichurus, Philosopher (340-270 BC)

>>91992467
They explained this a long time ago.
I don't remember how it goes, but basically Aku escaped from their realm and into reality. That's part of what Jack's father was trying to do with his hocusss pocusss, banish him back.
Instead he just embodied him, which resulted in Jack's dad having to get the sword in the first place.

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>>91992636
Wasn't aphrodite pretty chill

Or no wait she's the one who made medusa isn't she. Artemis?

>>91993543
Willing and able

>Then whence cometh evil?
People, humans. God could easily make evil never happen again in the blink of an eye. He values human free will far too much to do that though. Evil gets it's punishment in the end, far far worse than anything they dished out.

>>91993583
got really fuckin mad at some human who got too good at hunting, same shit as arachne
turns out greek pantheon are spiteful little shits

>>91993365
Yeah, the world of Aku makes no sense. There's places where is cyberpunk, with a lot of tecnology and aliens; others are post apocalyptic, Mad Max style, with punk gangs and shit; others are like medieval, with dragons and peasants; other is primitive, with giant monkeys and gigantic forests. All mixed up with magic and tecnology. If only Aku can manipulate time, who created the portals in the future? Where are all this magic comes from? The few times jack encounters someone using magic, is highly hidden.

>>91993594
>He values human free will far too much to do that though
Literally gets pissed off at Adam and Eve for manifesting free will and disobeying him after they the fruit.

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>>91993608
Oh yeah forgot about that.

Huh she's like the OG of Transformation fetishism isn't she?

should pray to her more often then

>>91993594
>People, humans. God could easily make evil never happen again in the blink of an eye. He values human free will far too much to do that though.
These two are not logically connected at all nor are they mutually exclusive.

>>91993634
no
go back further
the first thing he makes adam and eve do after being created is to feel shame

>>91992636
Prometheus you ignorant nigger

>>91993583
That was Athena. She's into punishing women for being women.
Aphrodite's just a slut that cucks her ugly husband.

>>91993583
Most of the Greek deities were colossal assholes in one respect or another.

One of the few exceptions was Hades, ironically enough, who was pretty chill, and was mainly feared because of the natural fear of death humans have.

He was even willing to lend a hand to people, namely Orpheus and Hercules, and it only backfired on Orpheus because he got overexcited.

>>91993583
Athena got anger-y that Medusa dared to get raped by Poseidon inside one of Athena's temples and made her ugly as a result.

Gods are right cunts.

>>91993653
They didn't feel shame until after they ate the fruit, and realized they were naked.
God did not give them the concept of it.

>>91993678
I don't get the Hades did nothing wrong meme, he kidnapped Demeter's daughter and used sneaky Jew tricks to keep and marry her.

>>91993608
Artemis punished the hunter that saw her bathing. No one's allowed to peep on gods, so she turned him into a deer and let his own hunting dogs rip him apart. Arachne was Athena. She sewed a blasphemous tapestry that people liked better than Athena's, so she was just gonna kill her painfully. The spider part was actually a mercy. Honestly Arachne kinda asked for it with the blasphemy

>>91993634
He made Adam, gave him a waifu, and dropped the two of them off in a literal paradise, with the only rule being that of all the trees in the garden, they can't eat the fruit of this one tree.

He punished them for breaking a rule the same way a parent would do for a child.

>>91993644
I was answering the question. Evil comes from people. God is perfectly willing and able to prevent evil.

>>91993736
>being good at your job is being blasphemous

>>>/olympus/

>>91993715
Relatively tame compared to the rest of the pantheon
Anons probably just relate to his ronery loneliness though

>>91993739
Pain and suffering are not exclusively products of people though.

>>91993785
that and the disney interpretation makes him pretty likeable
he wasn't "chill" by any means except relative to most of the other gods since he left mortals alone unless they tried to mess with him in some way

>>91993758
It depicted some humiliating trivia about the gods or something. Thats a no-no. But yes, upstaging a god in a contest is also blasphemy. Shouldve just forfeited and started grovelling on the spot

>>91993680
Part of this had to to do with a sort-of hierarchy in the Greek Pantheon.

To make a potentially long explanation short, she punished Medusa because the only other person to possibly punish was Poseidon, and Athena was smart enough to avoid starting shit with someone on a higher level than her.

See also in the Odyssey, where instead of making Poseidon stop dicking Odysseus around herself, she instead goes to Zeus and gets HIM to make Poseidon stop, Zeus is higher up in the divine food chain than Poseidon.

>>91993799
Fair point I guess. Not necessarily from God specifically dicking anyone over(except in the cases he does, most of the Old Testament for example).

>>91993799
Only humans feel by abrahamic faiths. Or at least only human feelings are important. Though I think theres some shit about minimizing pain when making kosher meat

>>91993825
can't have mortals being better than the gods at their own jobs now can we

>>91993654
Did people worship titans? Like Prometheus is a key figure to some myths but "major deity" seems reserved for niggas you'd actually pray to.

>>91993715
He made a snap decision after being alone in the land of the dead for so long.

When told to return her, he was perfectly fine doing it, although she ate food from the land of the dead, which means she isn't supposed to leave ever. If Hades really wanted to he could have just left it at "Whoops, nothing I can do."

>>91993715
At least he's faithful to Persephone, unlike his horndog brothers

>>91993678
What about hephaestus? He just wanted to smith stuff while his wife was being banged by Ares

>>91993896
>sneaky jew tricks

Chill gods of death are the best interpretation. No need to rush around managing everything. Why bother? Eventually everything will fall into their domain one way or another.

>>91993923
>forge

sorry, bad engrish

>>91993923
He tried humiliating his wife and her lover on several occasions and was humiliated in turn. He's incredibly bitter

>>91993739
>God is perfectly willing and able to prevent evil.
Then there shouldn't be evil.
But there is.

Conundrum, isn't it.

>>91992467
>the Demiurge
The Ultimate Evil isn't a Demiurge, it's just Chaos.
Aku could become like a Demiurge but he has too many threats above him to get there without trouble.

>>91993917
Only because everyone else he hangs out with is fucking dead.

>>91992467
Didn't Jack summon Ra to handle the guardians of Set?

>>91993942
What about the shinigamis? Never understood if they have the power to choose when someone will die or if they only reap their souls after they are already dead

>>91993997
yes but that shit had been laid out thousands of years prior, the scarab was probably a favor from ra for building all the monuments

>>91993962
His biggest mistake was trying to humiliate someone on a higher level than him and expecting people to side with him on it. See the Pantheon hierarchy business I mentioned earlier.

>>91993970
There is evil because of humans. Abolishing all evil in the world would involve getting rid of free will and/or humans in general. God won't do this not because he can't, but because he doesn't want to. Bit of a difference there.

>>91993970
if there is evil, there is no free will, you can't have both coexisting, unless you want another divine being that adores you for eternity.

>>91993997
Actually he did

>>91993789
That doesn't count. He's in it for his own amusement.

>>91994011
Shinigamis are modern inventions. They're basically just easternized grim reapers

>>91993891
Titans were, historically, the precursor to the Greek Gods. They were what historians believe the proto-greeks seriously worshipped before they adopted the 'new' gods and goddesses.

>>91994033
>if there is evil, there is no free will, you can't have both coexisting,
untrue, if you're omnipotent.

>>91994032
> Abolishing all evil in the world would involve getting rid of free will and/or humans in general.
See above.

With enough power, you could have no evil and free will. God is omnipotent, isn't he?

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>>91994042
But his amusement is our amusement

>>91994126
>God is omnipotent, isn't he?
Yes, he is. He can change all human behavior by changing free will and our way of thinking. But he doesn't want to.

>>91994067
Wasn't aware of that, really cool actually. Thought they were just part of the mythos of the Olympians.

>>91994155
Choosing to leave evil but being capable of removing it is complicit to it.

>>91994126
No, he's just the most potent. People just confused this after he won the pantheistic pipularity contest

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>mods delete anti-jack threads

MODS=FAGS

>>91994213
Makes ignoring bits and pieces of the bible you don't like convenient I guess.

>>91994032
Couldn't a omnipotent god just alter reality so that evil didn't exist? As in, the choice to commit evil isn't there, but not because of ''you don't have free will''.

Not the same guy btw

>>91992467
Their power only extends so far. They're all the way on the other side of the galaxy, and only have enough power to make small changes there. Plus, while they can hurt Aku, Aku can also hurt them, and they can't risk a god dying as that would cause massive chaos and throw the balance of the universe off.

>>91992636
Yaweh is pretty cool. Just don't fuck up his people/followers and he won't fuck you up.

>>91994185
Mythos almost always reflect real things. Precursor beings refer to actual old faiths, the great floods/apocalypses actually happened, etc. Turns out people aren't terribly creative

>>91994201
He gives everyone a chance to turn their back on their evil ways and come back to him, all the way up until the day they die.

Once you die though, that's it. They get punished for all the evil they did in their lives.

>>91994248
In theory he could. he wants to give people the chance to turn back to him. If they don't, they get punished.

That being said, another way to see it is if one of his children do die, they get taken to an eternity in Heaven before they have any chance to backslide back into sin. Not an entirely optimistic way to look at it admittedly, from a worldly perspective.

>>91992636
how about Pan?

>>91992467
If they do too much, people get dependent on them. And if they do nothing, people lose hope. They have to use a light touch, like a safecracker or a pickpocket.

>>91992467
Why the fuck is Gungnir a trident instead of a spear?

>>91994362
Is the shitty hand a maymay I missed out on?

>>91994362
anon im gonna need you to stop

>>91994346
Pan is a borderline sociopathic rapist and all around savage

>>91994346
Pan is a rapist

>>91994385
Yes. A shitty meme that got about 8 rows of (You)s before the thread went down.

>>91994337
>He gives everyone a chance to turn their back on their evil ways and come back to him, all the way up until the day they die.

>Once you die though, that's it. They get punished for all the evil they did in their lives.

And yet he permits evil to happen to people with every ability to stop it from happening to every one with no other reason because, "I don't wanna." This isn't rocket science to view this as pretty close to "not good" at beast, of a being that is supposed to be, "most good."

Also:
>He gives everyone a chance to turn their back on their evil ways
Except for the people that never learn what they're doing is sinful.

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>>91994346
He shagged my wife.

>>91994399
>>91994401
maybe i confused between Pan and Bacchus. I mean, Bacchus is pretty ok as long as you like to party hard

>>91992467
Aku is no longer a pure primordial evil threat, it's a human kind creation, and thus these fuckers only bring aid(jack's sword) to HUMANS to defeat aku.

>>91994471
Not his fault you dont know how to please your goatwife

>>91994337
>he wants to give people the chance to turn back to him
>If they don't, they get punished

What a dick

>>91994487
Bacchus would murder you if you refused to party. Or if you outpartied him. Or if you just looked at him funny. His followers got into such frenzies they would tear people apart. Orpheus was one of their notable victims I believe.

>>91994464
>And yet he permits evil to happen to people with every ability to stop it from happening to every one with no other reason because, "I don't wanna."

I feel like you didn't read the part of my reply you quoted. He doesn't let it happen for no reason. They do it themselves, and he gives them yet another second chance to come back to him.

>Except for the people that never learn what they're doing is sinful.
Admittedly not something I can really discuss to a degree I'm satisfied with.

>>91994529
God doesn't want people to go to hell. He gives them literally every chance to avoid going there.

>>91994529
i mean the thing is, if you don't want to be with god then he gives you precisely what you want and sends you to the one place where god isn't

How depressed do you think Jack would be if Aku just said "fuck it" and left the earth to an unknown location? He probably would never be able to find Aku to kill him. He couldn't go back to the past if all the time portals were gone. His purpose would be pointless.

>>91994585
He could take back the planet until Aku comes back pissed at least.

>>91994576
>He doesn't let it happen for no reason
He clearly does.

>They do it themselves,
This is the, "it's free choice" nonsense you've been spouting, yes?

Except if you're omnipotent, you can create a scenario with both free will and no evil.

And god chose not to. Because...?

>>91993715
>basement dweller who kidnaps his waifu

Hades is /ourgod/.

>>91994570
Shut up Dream nobody cares about you son

>>91994585
No more depressed than he already was

>>91994576
>born amidst evil, sickness and destruction
>no one teaches you what is right or wrong
>barely shown any kindness except in a twisted fashion
>possible additional handicaps like depression, voices in your head, bodily pains and aches
>might pick up some drug addictions
>live like this entire life

And at the end of your life, if god isn't satisfied with your choices ,which in a way have been practically forced, you are sentenced to eternity in damnation.
>>91994582
He could let people just die in peace, let them end.

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>>91993594
How do you explain terrible genetic birth defects like pic related?

>>91994585
Minor victory in jack's favor since he can than focus on rebuilding earth, at least until aku decides to come back.

>>91995095
>>91994609
I think he would feel extremely guilty though not being abe to stop him completely because it would be extremely likely he'd be on another planet destroying it as he did earth.

>>91993087
>It doesn't explain why they gave the task to destroy Aku to a human when they could have easily just snuffed him out when he was at his weakest form and called it a day.
How many times do we have to say it before idiots like you get it through your thick skulls?

Gods are petty and lazy. Aku is beneath them. To actually deal with this would be so far below their priorities that it isn't funny. To them, he's just a sliver of darkness that comes off as a wannabe.

They aren't going to do it. They're going to let some other peon with the capability do it for them.

You expect too much from gods just because they're cosmic and super powerful. You think they care enough. You don't realize that they would just rather sit back in the shadows and push beings lower than them towards the task.

They are chess players. Mortals and other lower beings are the chess pieces. It's a cosmic game.

>>91995331
fair enough i suppose

>>91993543
This implies that suffering has no value. Improvement omes from strife and challenge. Trials make people stronger, or focus their attention on what really matters.

>>91995030
Bad genes. It's not God's job to keep the freaks from breeding.

>>91992467
What do you mean?

They did do something. They sent Jack to deal with him. They even gave him a sword.

>>91994529
>I should be rewarded for my choices regardless of what they are.

No, you're just a spoiled cunt.

>>91994249
Aku is just a tiny fragment of that original evil entity that they destroyed with ease. He should be no threat at all to the gods.

And maybe that's why they don't bother with him. He's beneath them, while the entire dark mass that Aku was spawned from was enough to be a threat worth killing. But if that's the case, why do they even case enough to make the sword, and to return it to Jack now?

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>>91993530
Please no

>>91994032
>There is evil because of humans
Satan predates humans and is the source of all evil.

>>91995573
Satan tempts people to do evil. I don't remember him actually doing evil himself.

>>91994576
>He gives them literally every chance to avoid going there.
Except the people who don't.

>>91995604
>I don't remember him actually doing evil himself.
He literally rebelled against god long before humans and that's why god sent him directly to hell with all the angels who rebelled with him.

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>>91995504
>I attribute a statement which I myself made up to other people because I can't imagine any other meaning behind their words than that one statement

>>91992848
two kinds of gods:
>assholes
>sperges who create assholes then let themselves get locked in bottles by said assholes

>>91995630
>treating medievel fan fiction as canon

>>91995630
that's part of the paradise lost/new testament fanfiction, anon.

satan has done nothing wrong, if anything he's in cahoots with god and he goes around being a scapegoat and a falseflagger and to see if there's any humans dumb enough to fall for his shit

>>91995961
The bible is medievel fan fiction?

How much of it?
Didn't christianity back then also preach reincarnation?

>>91996022
>new testament
Isn't it in genesis?

>>91996023
The story of lucifer is not part of the bible

>>91992467
The gods are benevolent, not nice.

>>91996057
Ezekial and Isaiah.

>>91996050
Nope. The serpent of Genesis that tempts Eve is never once referred to as Satan, and even if it was, it's because Satan was originally depicted as a lawful judge type figure who wanted to test humanity, as he would appear later for Job and David under God's scrutiny.

then the new testament came along with all its faggy new age shit and revelations explicitly calls satan a devil and shits all over what he was meant to be

>>91996126
I believe Isaiah and Ezekial refer to him as "the bright star" and "morning star."

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Even for my kind, pain still hurts. If you move and act in the material world, then the material world acts on you. Pain hurts, just as greed intoxicates and lust burns. We may not die easy and we sure as hell don't die well, but we can die. If we're still loved and remembered, something else a whole lot like us comes along and takes our place and the whole damn thing starts all over again. And if we're forgotten, we're done.

>>91995483
>genes and evolution are only relevant if it covers a flaw on my religion.
Being hypocritical it's the most human trait ever.

>>91995483
It's also not the fault of the freak being born, yet, is punished for something it didn't do.
Kinda like that original sin thing.

>>91993583
Hestea/Vesta was the only Greek/Roman god that didn't do something awful. And her whole schtick was being a virgin that never left the house

>>91992467
It's a planet made of cardboard situation. Sure you can nuke Godzilla fifty times, but then you'd sacrifice tokyo and everyone in it.

>>91993886
Its more of an instructive tale of how to not behave in front of people with far more power than you. Think about it this way:
>dirty peasant is insanely good as some craft
>so good to the point that someone in a higher class hears about it and challenges the peasant
>noble makes something really good
>peasant makes something even better that talks shit on the upper class guy's family
>embarrasses and shames the upper class guy publicly

What do you think is going to happen to that peasant in a couple of days?

>>91996153
Nope, that's a single mention, most likely referencing a Babylonian king. In the biblical texts Lucifer, Satan, and the Serpent of Genesis are all discrete entities. Around the Medieval period all three got merged into a single entity, the Devil.

>>91996516
>Nope, that's a single mention, most likely referencing a Babylonian king.
No, it refers to them specifically as a cherub.
That's not a human entity or a king. It uses the singular for angel. You're 100% wrong in the text on this.

>>91992467
gods can only guide humanity and nature towards a certain path, that's it

>>91996126
Isn't the only judaic religion that rejects the new testament but not the old Judaism?

The same religion that believes there's a chosen _people_ (not religion, the people/race/lineage) of the jews?

>>91992467
Gods are dicks, news at eleven.

>>91992627
>astral shit to attend to
Getting drunk and fuck relatives?

>>91996540
Here's a more recently translated Isasiah 14:12, the only mention of Lucifer/Morning Star

>How you have fallen from heaven,morning star, son of the dawn!
>You have been cast down to the earth, you who once laid low the nations!
>You said in your heart,
>“I will ascend to the heavens;
>I will raise my throne above the stars of God;
>I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly,on the utmost heights of Mount Zaphon.[a]
>I will ascend above the tops of the clouds;
>I will make myself like the Most High.”
>But you are brought down to the realm of the dead,to the depths of the pit.

It does not once mention a cherub. All biblical scholars agree that references a Babylonian king. There was no conflation of Lucifer and the Devil until the Middle Ages.

>>91996734
post the original greek

Also you're missing the passage in ezekial 28:11-17

Specifically ezekial 28:14

>>91992752
Stop being so fucking retarded, Aku isn't a fragment of anything, did you even watch the show? If you did you'd knew whenever he gets cut down by Jack he shrinks and escape.

There's no reason to think he's less powerful than he was back there and the gods never mention it.

>>91996126
>then the new testament came along with all its faggy new age shit

Yeah.
the OLD testament is the one you want to stick to.
The one telling people they're going to hell for wearing mixed fibers or homosexuality.

>>91992467
are you retarded? the elder gods already took care of the ultimate evil, aku is nothing to them. They don't intervene for the same reason they don't go around solving every worlds problems. They gave Jack what he needed to vanquish aku, its up to humanity and not the gods to solve all their problems.

>>91994155
Absolute subjugation to his will would be a greater evil than allowing the inflicting of pain between each other.
It's a matter of infinite perspective here- human souls are infinite beings too- the time on Earth is brief and less important than the grander scheme.

>>91996910
>human souls are infinite beings too
Not if you're jewish.

Wow /co/ you're so fuckin spiritual.

Clap clap clap.

Nobody gives a shit.

>>91996904
>are you retarded? the elder gods already took care of the ultimate evil, aku is nothing to them.
Headcanon

>>91996805
>ezekial 28:14
>You are the anointed cherub that covers; and I have set you so: you were on the holy mountain of God; you have walked up and down in the middle of the stones of fire.

The whole think (28:1-19) never even refers to Morning Star at all, in fact its talking about a king of Tyre.
And why should I post the "original" Greek, when no one here could understand it anyway? The modern translations are accepted as being far more accurate than the King James Version, which I'm sure you're these ideas from

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>>91992848
That about sums it up, yeah

>>91996347
The universe is procedurally generated and self updating. Glitches like this come from our collective choices.

>>91996951
>a king of Tyre.
>cherub
A cherub is a very specific thing - a very specifically not human thing. Particularly a singular of cheribum

>>91996994
The "anointed cherub that covers" is referring the cherubs that adorn the lid of Ark of the Covenant

>>91996950
I'll bite. The likes of Ra could could easily destroy Aku. The gods deal with bigger issues, the problems of people seldom mean anything to them. They are not here to solve everything.

>>91996977
>our choices
Not the choice of the person being born.

>>91992718
Has he? I thought it was just Earth.

>>91997011
So it's specifically talking about/to a specific person.

That is literally one of the cherub figurines on the ark.

>>91997033
Earth has become a hub of alien life and crime, his influence has reached other planets.
He's even shown going to the Imakandi planet

>>91997016
I'm not saying the gods couldn't destroy Aku if they didn't work in mysterious ways, I'm saying that current Aku is just as powerful as he was when he fought them the first time. Since, you know, he never have any trouble healing himself over time.

>>91997011
The following verses specifically refers to this same cherub(s?) that were on the ark then.

>You were blameless in your ways from the day you were created till wickedness was found in you.

So...

wickness found this small figurine on the ark?

>>91997011
>>91997101
And in ezekial 28:16...

>Through your widespread trade you were filled with violence, and you sinned. So I drove you in disgrace from the mount of God, and I expelled you, guardian cherub, from among the fiery stones.

It specifically says,
"I expelled you, guardian cherub" Because,
"you sinned" It seems pretty evident what is going on here.

God is pissed at that little figurine and is expelling it from the "mount of god." What an asshole little figurine.

>>91997074
>his influence has reached other planets.
As in they know of him and Earth, and his policy of welcoming criminals is made use of for exiling them from places that don't want them

>He's even shown going to the Imakandi planet
To make a sales pitch, not to rule anything.

>>91997039
The entire passage (28:1-19) refers only to a nondescript "guardian cherub" and has literally nothing to do Morning Star/Lucifer (which was the whole point of this reply tree). The passage is called "A Prophecy to the King of Tyre," and is clearly referring to a King that was full of Faith, but became greedy and lost God's Grace. It uses the symbolism of a fallen angel to describe how the once wise and just king fell from Grace.

>>91996814
he can't outgrow his original mass you fucktardian. stop being an autistic baitposting faggot, we have enough of you shitstains in every jack thread. he is nothing compared to the gods now. fuck off.

>>91997136
No, god is casting out a small little figurine out to hell from heaven.

That fucking asshole figurine.

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>>91992627
Yeah remember how Ra only came down to smite the minions of Set after Jack finished the Tomb Raider puzzle, and then he just fucking left like an asshole without acknowledging Jack's prescence? Gods are dicks, read the bible or greek mythology.

>>91997142
Wait what, why are you talking about outgrowing, and why are you mad.

All y'all need to read Beyond Good and Evil.

The Greek gods are assholes because power was good and weakness or sickness was bad. Same with other pagan gods.

Abrahamic religions developed their father god from the pagan father gods, and he remains an evil asshole even after people decided that arbitrary violence and revenge are bad even when they are impressive and awe-inspiring, leading to a lot of confusion.

The Greeks considered volcanoes and earthquakes to be caused by local gods. This isn't a "violence is unholy and evil" way of looking at things. Gods were fucking terrifying right up till the New Testament, hence the expression "god-fearing."

>>91997169
You've got to watch out for figurines, they always try shit when you're not looking.
Be especially wary of those you've hot glued

>>91997190
Isn't that how a succubus is summoned or something?

>>91997183
>Gods were fucking terrifying right up till the New Testament

But wasn't the new testament "phony" and "made up fanfiction"?

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>>91997177
why didn't aku simply regenerate into the original ultimate evil? because he couldn't. its so simple you little faget.

>>91997224
Can you confirm that you "suck dick for a buck a pop"? Anonymous tip, you know how it is

>>91997234
Sorry, just catching a tail end of your argument, but,
maybe aku is stronger now than he was then?

>>91997208
Yes, they sense your impending wizardry and are trying to stop it before you're capable of binding them

>>91997260
>Can you confirm that you "suck dick for a buck a pop"?
I would never charge that much.

>>91993923
He tried raping Athena once because she got him on an intellectual level. Athena pushed him away but not before some of his cum got on her clothes or something. She tore it off and it fell into the earth to create some giant monster or some thing.

>>91993678
Don't forget Hestea, patron goddess of tendies and good girl points

>>91993594
God is all knowing, and all that happens is part of his plan, including the actions of every human who ever lived
God is an ass

>>91997126
Aliens from a water world were shown begging him to give back some of the water Aku had drained from them though.
So its pretty safe to say he's ruling other planets.

Could primordial evil aku have beaten the gods in 1v1?

>>91993014

This guy gets it
>Only through the strength of the human spirit and the virtue of human righteousness can this evil be vanquished.
>This blade was forged from the righteous energy within thee.
>lt possesses the power to destroy this evil force.

In summary when the ultimate evil resurrected and became Aku the gods literally were no longer capable of killing him, but were able to craft the mcguffin that could and gave that to humanity so they could help themselves.

>>91997263
the only time he even had the slightest chance of posing a threat to them was with the gems of cronus, he is literally nothing compared to them. the only reason ra came through for the minions of set was because the egyptians worshiped him. ra isn't going to save jimmy who fell down the well because he doesn't give a fuck, aku is about the same level.

>>91997283
Just looked it up because that was an interesting story.

Erichthonius. King of athens.
Despite not wanting to get the Hephaestus D, she still wanted to raise him in secret.

So she put him in a box and gave the box to three daughters of cecrops and told them not to open the box. When they opened the box, he was either a) a baby with a snake wrapped around him or b) half snake half baby.

The result was either:
a) the snake killed them
b) they went insane and threw themselves off a cliff.

>>91997234
But he did.

Why do you even think he didn't? The Ultimate Evil was flying around in space and didn't have the time to do anything before the gods came and fought him. What feats did it pull to make you think Aku is so much weaker than him.

>>91995459
Yeah because getting raped, beaten half to death and left a vegetable is such a huge learning experience

The world is not as tiny as you think

>>91997343
The more I think about the origins of aku movie, the less it makes sense.

>>91997358
the very fact that aku is a tiny, insignificant fraction of that ultimate evil. if this evil could simply regenerate infinitely, the gods would have lost. this evil never showed that ability, aku has never outgrew himself in power or size above the original fraction that he was.

>>91995459
All of those trials are immediately forgotten when you die and go to heaven and everything that happened to you while you were alive is forgotten making the entire exercise a, "prove you're worthy enough for heaven" exercise.

Until you stop and realize god wants everyone in heaven and, "nothing can separate man from the love of god."

Of course the idea of heaven itself is non canon if you're jewish/you think the only word of god is the old testament and the human soul is not immortal and when you die, you stay dead.

Which of course lends itself to further questions, don't it?

>>91997343
>he is literally nothing compared to them
Headcanon

Aku has shown that he's stronger than the three gods 1vs1, he almost killed the indian one when they fought. You're whole "the gods don't give a shit about a minor threat like him" is pure speculation.

>>91997413

>Aku has shown that he's stronger than the three gods 1vs1, he almost killed the indian one when they fought.
aku or "nameless original evil" thing?

>>91992467
>Beat up a retard
>his son is now harassing your son

Is best to teach your kids how to deal with these things

>>91997380
the birth of evil was fucking amazing, it even won an award.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MzZMhT3Vq_g

>>91997452
I didn't say it was bad, just that the more I try to think about it, the less it makes sense within the context of the rest of the story.

>>91997408
Aku can regenerates himself infinitely too, he just needs time.

He's never shown having any problem shapeshifting into what he wants, I think the biggest he went was mountain-sized tho. Not counting the episode where he becomes a black cloud and chase Jack in the graveyard.

What fucking "power" are you referring to? Aku arguably is more powerful than ever because he's intelligent and can actually do others things than throwing tentacles around

>>91994576
Except Africans
And most Asians
And literally everyone else born on a non christian country

>>91997442
Same thing

>>91992467
Because they are not on the same relam

>>91997511
Depends.
If before, then he would arguably be stronger.

If after, he would arguably be less so.

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>>91994298
>Yaweh is pretty cool.
>drowns the entire planet

>>91992467
>Why do these assholes just stand by and watch as Aku
Do you care what befalls an anthill?
Gods don't don't meddle in human affairs directly.

>>91997471
there isn't a whole lot to think about. the story is simple, as it should be. this "ultimate evil" was defeated by the gods, a tiny fraction survived and gained form, terrorizing earth. the gods respected humanity and found them worthy, for they had what it takes to defeat aku. with their godly power and humanity's spirit, they forged a sword capable of killing aku, and they left humanity to fight its own battle. the gods don't solve everything for everyone, only that which is far out of the mortals league.

that's it. that's as simple as it gets.

>>91994582
Yeah, a place of eternal pain and torture. What a nice guy.

>>91997569

Well to be fair humans reactivated him with that poison arrow shit.

Aku clearly gained a personality somehow and it wasn't by himself. Other than that it was a self defending pile of goo

>>91997569
>there isn't a whole lot to think about. the story is simple, as it should be. this "ultimate evil" was defeated by the gods, a tiny fraction survived and gained form, terrorizing earth. the gods respected humanity and found them worthy,

So they didn't finish the job and shirked responsibility onto someone else? Why didn't they finish him/it since the reason it landed on earth was their responsibility/fault in the first place?

That would be like if I was cleaning up a massive shit pile, finished, tracked some into someone else's home and felt they should clean it up because they were capable of doing it themselves.

>and they left humanity to fight its own battle. the gods don't solve everything for everyone, only that which is far out of the mortals league.
Except that ONE time with Ra...

>>91995505
I think the gods returning the sword to Jack is more a case of Jack coming to them as a worthy mortal than actual divine intervention. They wouldn't have done shit unless Jack spiritually cleansed himself, essentially saying "Hey, I'm ready to fulfill that purpose you bestowed upon me" and giving them a reason to care at all.

>>91997617
>Except that ONE time with Ra...
The people worshiped Ra, and he didn't go around solving all of Egypt's fucking problems. The minions of set were far out of their league, not even Jack could harm them. Ra protected Jack once he used the Egyptian artifacts to summon him. Note how he didn't care to help Jack beyond that. He didn't care and it wasn't his battle. He along with the others made the damn sword for a reason.

>>91997667
Well that doesn't really answer the question of making a mess with aku, it landing on earth and saying, "well it's your problem now."

>>91997684
Because that's what gods DO in mythology, and Samurai Jack is heavily based on the mythic stories of old. Gods exist to guide humanity and deal with cosmic problems, they're not around to solve every problem. Aku landed on earth in a non-sentient form that was only killing, at best, a few people a year for literally MILLIONS of years. Once he became sentient, then they forged the sword. As to their exact motivations? They're gods. They don't have to tell us jack shit and neither do the creators. It makes them more mysterious, detached, and unknowable while keeping the focus of the story on what it should be-the struggles of the human characters.

>>91997555
>Do you care what befalls an anthill?

Some do

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>>91997740
>Gods exist to guide humanity and deal with cosmic problems
aku is a cosmic problem
Their problem. It's cleaning up your back yard of shit and tracking it into someone else's house and leaving until it becomes such a rotten problem that you "benevolently" give them a mop for YOUR mess.

>It makes them more mysterious, detached, and unknowable
No, inaction is in fact, a position.
And in this case, tracking a dog turd onto someone else's kitchen floor and leaving it there and saying it's not your problem when you are entirely responsible for it in the first place is not mysterious or unknowable.

They also collectively intervened twice, and ra intervened a third time. At THAT point, it's hard to say they want humanity to deal with itself.

Why didn't jack find the sword himself? Literally, god from the machine. God(s) came down and cleaned up the rest of the scene/story so they would have time to finish it in one season.

>>91997316
He messes up other planets sometimes to produce refugees that he can then exploit for things like statue production. He wasn't even ruling that planet, and has never been shown to have any authority of any kind on other planets, let alone "enslaved entire galaxies".

>>91997502
>What is invincible ignorance
Stay Reddit-tier

What episodes were these guys in before?

>>91997813
birth of Evil

>>91997809
>>91997316
This is another thing that bugs me.

So Aku is shown to be literally fucking up other worlds.

Completely destroying some. The gods didn't intervene.

Aku becomes a threat to earth, and suddenly they have to do something about it?

Are they gods of the cosmos, or JUST earth?

>>91992467
>Three beings offering humanity a chance at salvation
This isn't a Trinity parallel is it? Am I reading too deeply?

>>91997495
>What fucking "power" are you referring to?
Look you dense fuck. Aku doesn't have the power that was the ultimate evil. The gods ANNIHILATED that. The little that Aku does have left allows him to survive an encounter with the sword, provided he can escape.

>>91997930
Well it's clear the sword isn't as powerful as the gods themselves.

>>91997907
>Aku doesn't have the power that was the ultimate evil
Source

>The gods ALIENATED that
Yeah, it's not like Aku can regenerate himself whenever he escapes from Jack's sword.

> The little that Aku does have left allows him to survive an encounter with the sword
Source on Aku having only a little power compared to his ultimate evil days?

>>91993408
Aku doesn't have to defeat the guardian, only destroy the portal. Doing the latter without doing the former is possible. Plus we have no idea if the guardian's sword would even effect Aku at all. Just because the guardian can beat Jack does not mean he can beat Aku. It's not how strong you are it's how you are strong.

>>91997951
>Source
my cock.
>Aku doesn't have the power that was the ultimate evil
If he did, then Jack wouldn't stand a chance, and the gods would actually care. but they don't.

>>91997977
>If he did, then Jack wouldn't stand a chance, and the gods would actually care. but they don't.
There's no way they'd be inconsistent.

>>91997977
>If he did, then Jack wouldn't stand a chance, and the gods would actually care. but they don't.
I can see you haven't watched the episode then.

All Aku did when he first appeared in the universe was fly around in space and once the gods caught up with him he fought them with tentacles.

Which is exactly the same way he fight Jack, except that now he sometimes add eye beams or necromancy.

>>91997831
>Aku becomes a threat to earth, and suddenly they have to do something about it?
>Are they gods of the cosmos, or JUST earth?

The fragment of the original mass ended up on earth.

Jack's dad shot an arrow with an elixer or some shit into the black goop and that resulted in aku. Once he gained sentence, he raped jack's dads village/town or whatever and jack's dad begged for help and was given a sword.

For some fucking reason the sword didn't kill aku but sealed him.

So the real fucking question is how is jack suppose to kill aku when his dad beat aku down and at best could only seal him.

The problem started on earth and so it was tasked to an earthling to finish it. Jack was tossed to the future by aku and aku eventually moved off earth to fuck up other planets but still considers earth his home.

>>91994611
>And god chose not to. Because...?

Because what's the point of free will if every option is not available?

>>91998031
>The problem started on earth
No, not at all.
It started with the original evil which they failed to kill and refused to finish. It would have never landed on earth if they had finished the damn thing, which they didn't for no reason.

They just stopped and didn't care that they didn't kill it, even though it was worth fighting, evidently? So it was worth fighting but not killing? But they give him the sword to kill it?

Again, the reason aku ended up on earth and not dead is because the gods refused to finish the fight for no reason.

>>91994298
>Yahweh
>Mr Kill-yo-son-Abraham
>Mr Frogs-locust-and-overkill
>Mr Why-you-sass-me-Cain,-I-know-what-you did.-ain't-like-I-were-forgiving-you
Close tho- His trials doesn't make "logical" sense, even in the myriad of religions he exists in.
Other Gods in pantheism atleast have meaning and consistency.
That's just me.

>>91998054
>Because what's the point of free will if every option is not available?
Then we have no free will now because there are options not available to us and pretty much everybody. In that case, there is no free will because every option is not available to everyone.

>>91998014
aku lacks the power to regenerate himself to that extent. his real power was wiped out along with most of the original mass. its gone. thinking further into that is missing the entire point of a simple story. can you imagine if they tried to explain the exact details as to why aku couldn't go back, even though its fucking simple to imagine and nobody that isn't autistic would even bother to question?

>>91998122
>and nobody that isn't autistic would even bother to question?
Thinking is a normal function of humans and so is questioning things and asking why or how they work.

An abnormal brain doesn't.

>>91998185
no, your confusing intelligence with autism. everyone that isn't a brainlet can understand this.

>>91998199
Once again - that's not a function of intelligence. It's just how our brains are wired to work. To ask and wonder why. It's just what a normal brain does. Human nature.

>>91998122
>aku lacks the power to regenerate himself to that extent.
Source

> his real power was wiped out along with most of the original mass
Why do you think that, at no point is this mentioned in the show and Aku has no problem regenerating

>thinking further into that is missing the entire point of a simple story
You're the one that overthinks everything.

>>91998251
Thinking about something isn't something you need to apologize for, nor overthinking.

If a story can't survive normal thought, criticism or dissection and needs to be defended from any of the above, it is flawed.

I say this as a fan.

>>91998251
aku can survive the sword if he escapes. the gods are vastly more powerful than jack and his sword, and can annihilate it completely. there is no point in thinking further because there is no answer. I gave you one based on like five seconds of my imagination.

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>>91992467
>Why do these assholes just stand by and watch as Aku does as he pleases...?
Shit writing. I lmaoed when this scene happened in the latest episode
>here, samurai, here is your sword! Out of nowhere!
>oh, and here is your old haircut, even though you could have shaved yourself without divine help/

>>91998306
>aku can survive the sword if he escapes. the gods are vastly more powerful than jack and his sword, and can annihilate it completely.
What?

Aku can survive the gods if he escapes too.

In fact he did just that in the Birth of Evil. How do you even get that wrong.

>>91998251

The first fucking episode is the source. Just like all that other shit anons love to forget about Samurai Jack.

>>91998306
>and can annihilate it completely.
So when aku was originally a cosmic thread...

Why didn't they?

>>91998319
>Aku can survive the gods if he escapes too.
but he can't reform into that ultimate evil. the story says he can't. he would have done it if he could. you are the one overthinking insignificant shit like an autist would

>>91998336
>Why didn't they?
because you're a baitposting fag or you didn't watch the episode

>>91998367
It's been at least 10 years since I've seen it, anon.

>>91998375
>not watching all of jack again
its your loss man

>>91998388
I might do just that, but, in the meantime, I don't suppose you could give me a slight reminder.

>>91998347
You're the only one extrapolating stuff that isn't shown in the cartoon, autist.

>Aku is weaker than he was originally
Based on what.

>>91992636
Well metaphysically Jesus basically BTFOs the entire notion of karma so that's pretty cool

>>91998525
>You're the only one extrapolating stuff that isn't shown in the cartoon, autist.
Gentlemen, this is what a lack of self-awareness looks like.

>>91998690
Please quote me saying something that has no basis in the cartoon. I'm waiting.

>>91998695
Can't do that because I wasn't following the whatever you were talking about. However...

>Please quote me saying something that has no basis in the cartoon. I'm waiting.
Here's another stellar example of oblivious autism.

I'd be fine with it if you never used the word autist, but you know what they say, people in a glasshouse shouldn't throw stones.

>>91998738
>Come into a thread
>Doesn't read it
>Call others autists for discussing facts about a cartoon on a cartoon board

Yep, autism alright.

>>91998810
>autism
Idon'tthinkyouknowwhatthatwordmeans.jpg

>>91994399
>>91994401

I never started with the Greeks, what's the story with Pan?

>>91993114

Demiurge is supposed to be distinct from both Elohim and Yahweh, read the Apocryphon you dense fucker

>>91993634

The logical mistake people always make here is that you exercise your free will when deciding to obey and when to obey. Just because one choice you make is in line with someone's expectations doesn't mean that all of a sudden your will isn't free when you make it, the whole point is you make the choice.

Obviously encouraging free will doesn't equate to removing the consequences of all choices. Actually you could argue that no consequences diminishes the agency of free will because your choices no longer have any meaning.

I just don't get why Genndy & co couldn't come up with a better story for s5 than they have thus far. The first episodes were rather good (maybe great even) but the quality has/is seriously decreasing.
Was it like
>Genndy: "hey, what about concluding the Jack story?"
>"sure, what's your idea?
>G: "well umm.. how about.. Jack's depressed and... then he isn't.."
>"O-ok.. what else?"
>G: "Well how about.. eh, let's just wing it as we go along"

>>91996734
>All biblical scholars agree that references a Babylonian king.

This is misleading. Of course everyone agrees it references a Babylonian king but some also believe that it references Satan simultaneously, most likely that the king is being treated as a type of Satan due to the severity of his crime. Don't misrepresent scholars, they aren't "all" in unison on pretty much anything let alone something as contentious as this.

>>91997136
>It uses the symbolism of a fallen angel to describe how the once wise and just king fell from Grace.

That's the exact thing you were arguing against.

>>91997810
Then why would you EVER teach people about christianity? Thanks for sending millions of people to hell missionaries

>>91993473
>petulent

Why are theists such petulant children?

>>91993543
Sort of the problem with free will and knowledge and all that. Free will means you can do what you want, even evil, and knowledge means you are now keenly aware of the pain and suffering. If we were as dumb as cows do you think we would care about all this?

>>91993644
Actually, they are. Free will is the ability to do whatever you want, you take away that choice, it is no longer free will. Much like AI; if we ever make actual AI and then we install the 3 laws of robotics, it is no longer free will. They would be physically be incapable of breaking any of the 3 laws. So if you wipe out evil, you are no longer letting your free willed creatures be free willed.

And do not confuse wiping out evil with only kill evil do'ers. To wipe it out, you would need to prevent all ability to even think of it.

>>91993543
there's actually so such thing as what you call evil.
you might as well ask me to wipe all the stars from the sky because they're too bright and it hurts your eyes
grow up
>t.God

>>91997810
That only guarantees limbo, neither hell nor heaven, just a place for you to exist. It's not even certain if there's anything else there, or if it's just an infinite expanse.

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>>91992718
A big threat is something like a princess not impregnated and a man left uncucked by the bull.

Gotta set the tone and let the mortals know who's who around here.

>>91997530
He saved his followers though. He just killed others.

>>91993634
>manifesting free will and disobeying after they ate the fruit
>manifesting free will
>after they disobeyed and ate the fruit
Its been years and I final get the story now thanks to this post. Adam and Eve didn't get free will or knowledge from eating the apple. They had it all along and punishment for eating the apple was a consequence of exercising it. The apple itself was probably literally just a fucking apple.

>>91993088
He was thrown around by them for a bit, but they couldn't permanently hurt him. Aku is so used to winning with ease that he probably called it quits realizing that the Ocean Stone or whatever wasn't worth the headache and left it there.

>>91993202
And admitting to the whole world that he's afraid of one single samurai? As soon as he left the rest of humanity and anyone else who hates Aku would rise up and recuperate control of the planet. They haven't done it yet because Aku is fucking invincible.

>>91993583
Aphrodite forced a women to fuck her father and then she kept the child around as a sex slave she got into arguments with Persephone for who had the most right to his cock. Said slave was Adonis.

>>91997283
To be fair, he tried to rape Athena because Poseidon was a dick and told him that Athena secretly wanted his dick, was coming to his workshop asking for new armor as an excuse and that she liked it rough.

>>92000325
Doesnt sound like a half bad deal desu senpai

>>91993543
>Is he able, but not willing?
>Then he is malevolent.

I think this one misses the point.
I'm ABLE to hop on a plane and bottlefeed 50 African children today, but I'm not willing to. That doesn't make me malevolent.

God saying "Figure your shit out on your own" isn't being malevolent.

Buddhism tells you not to depend on gods to come fix everything for you, but it doesn't imply gods are malevolent (then it doesn't imply they exist, either)

>>91997361
Obviously you were too weak

>>92000246
technically 'knowing of good and evil' is a mistranslation.
a more accurate reading is 'knowledge of making good and bad things' AKA altering the environment rather than just living with it, and building shit rather than just relying on what already exists

the first thing they do after eating the fruit is invent clothing.
and when they get kicked out of Eden, Adam becomes a farmer. again, altering the environment because you think you can improve it. which up until then had strictly been the responsibility of God.
by wanting to be like God, they were taking some of that responsibility onto themselves.

In other words, they moved out of their father's house and got a real job

>>92000423
I think the difference there comes with the fact that a God is supposed to be omnipotent and omnipresent. The logic is understandable when you realize that according to scripture the guy is supposed to literally be standing over your shoulder 24/7 with the ability to do anything and everything possible, whereas you are not currently in Africa, and you would also have a good amount of your limited time and money cut into by making that trip, whereas a god should have unlimited time and resources.

>>91997502
And tahats why its the duty of christians to spread the faith to everyone whether they want it or not

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>>91992636

Ermal. Any God from King of dragon pass would help Jack. He just needs to roll the dice.

>>92000473
At that point, why create humanity at all?

>>92000394
Do you have any idea how draining fucking a goddess, let alone two, must be? One third of the year he spent with Aphrodite, another third with Persephone and another third for himself as Zeus decreed. Until Aphrodite said "fuck it" and convinced her to give him his full year. Later on Ares gets jealous, turns into a and kills him.

>>92000520
Maybe we're like Sims characters and he just likes to watch us.

>>91992636
Hades is generally pretty chill.

>>92000525
This is really making me crave Greek Pantheon Rule 34. The original stories would make quality porn comic or doujin material and it'd be funny as shit to boot.

>>91993408
Aku probably doesnt know about that portal. If the Buddhist could hide from aku, the guardian probably can as well.

>>92000520
to see what its like to not know what will happen next, God transformed himself into humans and convinced himself that he wasn't God

>>92000536
He is. Unfortunately for him, with the whole Lord of the Death deal he's got going on we can't help but perceive him as an immovable asshole. Don't get me wrong, I like Hades, but the guy is one of Ares's only friends only because he keeps bringing him new subjects.

>>91998394
They were still busy fighting the rest of it anon

>>92000588
He kidnapped his wife and tricked her into spending eternity with him.

There are no good guys in greek myth, because the moral compass of ancient peoples is completely foreign to us.

>>92000588
Hes also the god of having fat stacks of cash which is cool.
>>92000653
Zeus gave him the go ahead though. Also apparently she only has to spend like half the year down there. I have also heard that is some stories Persephone was down with it but her mom wouldnt let her go down to Hades.

>>92000653
Its probably not all that foreign in all honesty. They just didn't sit around and think about morals too much to come to logical conclusions about things (except for their philosophers, but nobody listened to them and thought they were corrupting the youth with mindtricks).

As a result, their moral compasses were probably just similar to a child's. Do what feels good or right at the time with absolutely zero concept of foresight.

>>92000700
She only has to spend half the year there because her mom threatened to end the world with eternal winter if she never saw her daughter again.

The stories dont really say how persephone felt about it, because the bride's feeling aren't relevent to ancient peoples

>>92000653
>He kidnapped his wife
With his brother's, Head Olympian In Charge, permission. It was basically an arranged marriage and socially acceptable back.

>>92000755
Its almost like the stories assume a foreign moral compass or something

>>91992467
They're gods, they don't have to explain shit to mortals. They probably have divine responsibilities Jack couldn't begin to understand. They've got their reasons.

>>92000734
Its not like eternal winter would have bothered Hades much, he didn't have to give her back. One bad relationship makes him a whole lot more chill than the rest of his bros, what with all the monster transformations, rapes natural disasters. He didnt even mess with powerless humans, he dicked with other gods who could actually stand up to him.

>>91992467
They didn't stand by, they gave Jack the sword so he could get sent to the future, become a champion, and then go bqck to the past and destroy Aku as if no time had passed at all. In fact, to them it's all already done. Everything that'll ever happen is already done. Not their fault human perception is linear

>>92000820
His job was fucking with human souls constantly. I imagine he's burned oit on mortal interaction.

>>91992467
They're the real enemies and Jack will team up with Haku to take them down.

Wash a way the anger nananananana it's time for Jack to let it RIP

>>92000820
remember that time Herakles asked to borrow his guard dog and he just went 'yeah, sure, his name is Spot and he likes to run so hold onto the leash tight and bring him back when you're done'

>>92000884
He didnt really fuck with them, he just managed them. From what I gather the greek underworld wasnt really bad like hell, it was just sort of boring for everybody unless you were some badass hero.

>>92000936
Everyone who isnt a great hero is in constant suffering. There's a river of goddamn fire, another of sorrow, another of hate, etc. The underworld fucking sucks.

>>92000936
Is eternal boredom not a hell in and of itself?

>>92000999
Just dont stand in the rivers like a retard. Besides the underworld was already there before Hades got put in charge of it, its not like he decided to install a river of ball kicking one day.

>>92001029
>it's dark and gloomy everywhere
>nothing to do for centuries
>can't even feeling human sensations
>there's rivers that cause infinite agony if you stand in them
>but that's still technically feeling something
Hell I'd stand in one just to have something to do

>>92001139
There's always heroes and shit coming down that you can gawk at.

>>92001163
Seen one hero you seen them all

>>92001180
They might feed you milk and blood though.

>>92001190
>Compete with literally millions of dead to feel a bit of sensation for a couple minutes
The rivers are just easier

>>91999632
Even cows understand pain and suffering, as well as happiness.
People undermine the emotions and intelligence of animals way too much.

>>92001390
Pretty much any social creature has a social value system, what we call "morality". But non-social creatures don't, because they don't have to interact with other creatures except for breeding and eating.

People talk about absolute morality and good and evil, but it's all behaviorism.

>>91993543
Ironically Epicurus never said this and this moral quandary was devised by a Christian philosopher.