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Inevitable Shitposting edition

>Upcoming Releases:
http://www.swbooks.net/updates/release-2017.htm

>Out this Week:
Darth Maul #3 (April 26)

>Star Wars: The Last Jedi trailer
https://youtu.be/zB4I68XVPzQ

>Star Wars: Rebels - The Final Season
https://youtu.be/-b7GAhnVwhA

>Battlefront 2 trailer:
https://youtu.be/Kae-JjbLsgA

>Download links: (Check here for new Rebels Episodes + Books, Comics, Films, etc)
http://pastebin.com/nWsKtSya

>Canon Guide:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1t1KovH_1GYLDTAe3yrleeWiuzwulm670o_anQqr5Rcg/pubhtml

>Legends Recommendation List:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/147N5EgCnZmcPaDYvnGQwl9cn7BhBroFb7mD2C4cmWb0/edit?usp=sharing
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Disney a shit
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Second for Barissoka
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Bendy
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defend this
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>>91987799
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hxMIECU0sK8

>I sold my baby to white slavers
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>>91987823
Why is it a gif
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>>91987915
>that channel

low-energy cynical wank station
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>>91987889
Looks real shit in slow-motion. He just gives up.
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>>91987810
off to a good start
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>>91987889
it's almost like it was poorly choreographed and slowing it down makes that even more apparent.
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>>91988060
post more lekku cuties
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>>91987915
A Han Solo prequel movie truly is some egregious milking.
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>>91988076
lol no
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>>91988100
and every clone being boba fett wasn't milking
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>>91987977
dunno
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>>91987889
What's wrong with it?
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How do we feel about Jek-14?

>Jek-14, later known as the Maker of Zoh, was a Force-sensitive Sith clone of a basic clone trooper created by Count Dooku on Kamino during the Clone Wars. He was originally intended to be part of a much larger "Sith clone" army. After dueling and evading Mace Windu and Yoda, he escaped to Geonosis, where he presented himself to Darth Sidious in the flesh. However, when Jedi Master Yoda fought Tyranus on Geonosis and offered Jek the choice to join the light side of the Force, Jek decided that he would choose no side.
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>>91988439
Not-Canon.
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>>91988190
I didn't imply any exclusivity to it.
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>>91988439
>This article is non-canon.
>This article covers a subject containing comic or obvious non-canon material or that Lucasfilm otherwise declared to be non-canon in the new canon continuity.
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>>91988530
>>91988482
disney shills out in full force tonight
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>>91988561
>disney shill
I thought it was eu, and was defending the eu
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>>91988439
>literally my pbp bbs character
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>>91988561
>disney shills
Load of people complain about Rey for much less than the blob of text on this Donut-steel character.
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>>91987889
>2nd /tv/ tier bullshit
Go away
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>>91987810
>"Luke did I ever tell you about my old friend Bariss?"
>"She killed innocents and framed my for the crime because she thought the order had lost it's way"
>"she was a good friend"
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>>91988439
Jek's biggest problem is that he isn't funny. He feels really out of place because you have all this wacky stuff going on and then you have this kind of angsty character right in the middle of it.
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>>91988401
He spreads his arms wide, making himself open for no reason.
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>>91987999
>shit beer
>retard sockets

Got me.
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>>91988561
You realize Jek-14 isn't an EU character, right?
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>>91987889
He wanted to hug Lee
;_;
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>>91988934
>Jek-14 isn't an EU character
???
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>>91988812
isn't him mellowing out from Starkiller emo phase and becoming a pacifist retard that likes only building shit part of his humorous arc though?
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>>91989100
He's not. He's from the Lego shows, which weren't part of the EU and had their own continuity (Jek is still part of Freemakers, for example).
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>>91987783
Did anyone storytime Maul this week?
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>>91989148
the new lego shows are in a weird limbo where they're obviously not 100% canon in how they portray characters but they're still regarded with a good amount of importance (Star Wars designers send them character designs and tell them details to stay with canon, like Hera being a general and surviving scarif)

all it would take is jek's helmet showing up somewhere in canon or naare being revealed as one of the inquisitors in the vader comic
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>>91989342
>all it would take is jek's helmet showing up somewhere in canon or naare being revealed as one of the inquisitors in the vader comic
That still wouldn't automatically make the Lego shows themselves canon, though.
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Fuck that guy in the last thread i cared about Jaina, Jacen and Anakin.

More than Nu-Jacen with his balls chopped off who wears a Chinese knock-off Revan mask while throwing temper tantrums and getting his ass whopped by a noob.
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>>91989401
Kylo being a little bitch doesn't suddenly make Jacen a good character
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>On my world the marital ritual consists of destroying unholy sites of false believers allhabethainshalad

What do /swco/?
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>>91989449
Maybe so, but he's still better than what we got.
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>>91989465
Why do people meme that Baris is muslim when Luminara's outfit shows they are clearly space conservative Christians?
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>>91989496
that "tempter tantrum wielding bitch" did more interesting things with the force than jacen did in one mediocre to bad movie
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>>91989465
Marry her, you fool!
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>>91989552
you mean lose to someone who just picked up a lightsaber?
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>>91989549
some people think any kind of head covering = muslim
just like they think any kind of large nose = jew
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>>91989591
>power level faggotry
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>>91989552

Freezing the blaster bolt? That he never did afterwards and probably never will again?

And i don't recall Kylo being able to flow walk.
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>>91989641
People usually respond to this with "b-but he froze Rey that one time!" as if that's even remotely the same thing
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>>91989393
Nor should they be. Vader and Sheev as the worst bosses in the galaxy are great, though sadly I don't see them annoying MOC the same way they did Naare.

That said, I do like that they go to the extra length of fitting it into canon as much as possible. That is to say things like Hera showing up to direct Rowan, who can build ships with the Force, to Quarrie so together they can build a kickass new ship. It's a good use of canon to tell the story and can arguably be seen as a good stop gap for kids who might be interested in canon to find out more. The canon should be familiar to them and they should see how it works as a jumping on point. Of course you still have to convince them that the bricks ain't actually canon, they just follow it to a degree.
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>>91989552
>that pic
Goddamn ghost girls peeing everywhere. So fucking rude and not even scary like the blood floods. Worst haunted hotel ever.
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>>91989591
He was injured, we've been over this
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>>91989591
After being shot by a weapon that had an entire scene dedicated to pointing out how powerful it is?
After damn near no selling that weapon in fact?
Kylo was bleeding out, wasn't even trying to kill her and Rey still had to dip into the Dark Side to turn the fight around
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>>91989641
>force pull to choke
>limb freezing
>mind interrogations without droids
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KzcajU__aa0

Is he right?
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>>91988817
He was going in for a hug.
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>>91989865
>thumbnail
nah
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>>91989449
Jacen wasn't a bad character in the NJO, after he got over his Force paranoia anyway.
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I just want a force user who has no idea he's force sensitive, but uses it to win at games like poker/intergalactic lotteries to live comfortably because he gets visions.
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>>91989291
Nope
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>>91989866
Aw, that's so sweet of him. Make Star Love, not Star War!
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>>91989781
Eh, the third one is really the only one that's genuinely new. The others are just different applications of the same telekinesis we've seen before.

Like if he choked someone and then made them spin in the air that's not really a new power
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>>91990132
Its still on a scale we haven't seen in the movies before, and unlike Vader Kylo still clearly has a lot to learn and grow
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https://youtu.be/6jWtbJxzGpQ?t=37m8s
Lucas ranting about lack of imagination and fear of creativity in hollywood corporations, and how they're risk averse.
This is pottery.
God I wish this man was still doing Star Wars.
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>>91990132
You could probably argue that it's an extension of telepathy.

Being able to stop an actual laser bolt in mid-air is something new and unique but it never goes anywhere.
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>>91990180
>Its still on a scale we haven't seen in the movies before
We saw Dooku choke and levitate Obi-Wan, so it's not some wild and crazy new technique.
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>>91990249
Yeah, and he also did Sheev's lightning because Lucas was fucking lazy and AotC is a shitshow.

Your point? Lucas being a lazy cunt doesn't mean those powers are any less special.
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>>91988800
>You know guy, I'm staring to think the Jedi's definition of 'Friend' is very different from everybody else's
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>>91990277
My point is Kylo choking and levitating a guy isn't some new and never-before-seen technique.
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>>91990322
Link me another part of Star Wars where someone pulls another person across the room directly into a chokehold.

I'll wait, faggot. KYS
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>>91990277
Nobody was going "WOW DOOKU IS SO AMAZING NOBODY HAS EVER USE LIGHTNING BEFORE!" when that happened, though
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>>91990348
Not him, but Dooku levitated him, choked him, and threw him, so that's kind of the same thing but in reverse.
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>>91990353
I remember Ian McDiarmid not liking Dooku having lightning. Still for what it is worth Dooku's lightning was much less impressive than Sheev's at that point in time. Yoda could just bitchslap his away but the Senate chamber duel was a whole other level.

I guess whatever was going on with Mace Windu is still debated.
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>>91990322
Kylo never choked and lifted a guy, he stopped a blaster bolt fired from behind him in mid flight, kept there while having a conversation then walked off having seemingly forgotten he was even holding the bolt back at all
Or with Rey, he uses telekinesis to hold her in place despite her clearly trying to run or at least bring up her arm to shoot. Again, Kylo does this with no visible or audible effort, has a nice chat then somehow knocks her out with the Force before carrying her off to his ship
Oh and then there's the mind breaking. We've seen something similar before in TCW, when Cad Bane was captured by the Jedi. Except then it took a pair of Jedi Masters and Anakin Skywalker to break into his mind. Kylo does it by himself, and again can seemingly do this so easily he can carry on a conversation while poking about in Poe and later Rey's brains

He might have some truly spectacular anger issues (but then that seems to run in the Skywalker family) but that doesn't undermine his power
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>>91990466
He choked, lifted, and levitated the Mitaka guy over to him.
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>>91990513
He also Force threw Rey 20 feet away before he fought Finn.
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>>91989603
>>91989549
or maybe it's because Barriss was a religious extremist terrorist bomber who happened to have clothing and accent suspiciously similar to that of a Muslim woman
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>>91990513
>>91990538
>semantics faggotry
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>>91990466
I don't think the argument was ever that Kylo wasn't powerful, but that he's not using any genuinely new powers (though I'd argue the blaster bolt thing counts).
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>>91990466
>then somehow knocks her out with the Force
Qui-Gon actually does this to Jar Jar. Most people miss it because it's right in the middle of a creature attack, though.
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FUCK THE MOꙠSE
#NOTMYCANON
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>>91990608
That isn't semantics. He literally choked and lifted a guy.
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>>91990513
Yeah, that's one of my favourite scenes in TFA
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>>91990658
choked with his HAND
"lifted" a guy towards him

you stupid fucking autistic cunt
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>>91990690
He choked and lifted a guy. Saying he didn't choke and lift a guy is false.
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>>91990616
I'd argue the mind breaking is new, or at least Kylo is the first example of it we got to see. The TCW example felt more like they were mind tricking somebody who was resistant to a normal mind trick, but Kylo just straight up drills into the mind to get what he wants. Maul does it in Rebels too, but that was a long time after TFA
>>91990513
I honestly completely forget he did that. Says a lot when that's an unimpressive display of his power though
>>91990600
>accent
I know Americans seem to think anywhere outside their continent is on the verge of turning into a Caliphate, but Barriss has a British accent, not an Arabic or otherwise especially Muslim one
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>>91990715
>do you even choke and lift, bro?
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>>91990715
I'll choke and lift you boi
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>>91990616
Might be, and it might be impressive still, though, I don't know, a bit...lame? I mean they already deflect blaster bolts on a routine basis with their lightsabers and the saber quickdraw deflection has better visual appeal since they CAN bring a sword to a gunfight and still manage to outdraw your shot.

Might just be me, though. On-screen it just didn't even have the wow factor of Vader's "talk to the hand, bitch" maneuver in ESB, and it wasn't just that I'd seen that because I loved seeing it again in Rogue One.
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>>91990742
Kylo Ren is cute in an everyman kind of way

I like it
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>>91990813
>everyman
His face is weird as fuck. It works with his character, though.
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>>91990742
>Kylo Ren routinely choke and lifts himself in his quarters
>one day Hux is going to walk in on his corpse and shout, "I knew it! Pay up, lieutenant, you owe me 50 Hux Bux!"
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>>91990827
I mean, he's not unobtainable like most celebrities. Not everyone is a channing tatum

But he only works with long hair. Otherwise, those ears. Holy shit.
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Ranking the Star Wars movies:

Empire > Star Wars > Jedi > The Force Awakens

Not counting Rogue One because it's a spin-off.
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>>91987783
>Inevitable Shitposting
What have I missed in the past few months I've been away from here?
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>>91990738
Barriss and Luminara don't sound like RP, they sound like former colonials imitating RP.
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>>91990884
>No prequels

??? AoTC is my third favourite, after RO, and then ANH
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>>91990884
>this post
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>>91990811
I think the problem is that it was clearly meant as a "WOW LOOK ISN'T THIS AMAZING?" moment but it never really leads to anything. We see him do a few more things with telekinesis, but never anything on that level.

Compare that with Vader deflecting the bolts, which is done fairly quickly rather than lingering on it and cutting to Han having a "WOW HE CAN DO THAT? THAT BLOWS MY MIND" look on his face.
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>>91990930
It's not meant to lead to anything. It just establishes that he's strong with the Force and has good control. The rest of the movie is meant to show how downhill he goes from there when his emotional problems start getting in the way.

Beginning of the movie Kylo is in control Kylo. End of the movie Kylo is closer to the true him that he hides behind the mask.
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>>91990905
Huh? There are prequels? Never heard of them.
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>>91990884
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>>91990974
>It just establishes that he's strong with the Force and has good control.
You can do that without pulling out this insane power out of nowhere that you then never use again.
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>>91991045
Seems like an easy way to do it to me. He does similar things with the freezing throughout the movie.
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why do people pretend that jaina solo is miles better than rey
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>>91990974
>It's not meant to lead to anything. It just establishes that he's strong with the Force and has good control.
Yeah but the problem with that is that you just showed him down something completely unprecedented... and then he goes on to do nothing like that at all, anywhere. It's like making a martial arts movie where the villain makes his entrance by throwing a hadoken but then the rest of the movie has everyone doing punches and kicks.
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>>91991089
why do people pretend the EU was good at all?
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>>91991107
nostalgia
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>>91990884
Our tastes are kind of similar, but you forgot the prequels

ESB>R1>SW>ROTS

POWER GAP

ROTJ>TPM

POWER GAP

AOTC

POWER GAP x9001

TFA
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>>91991095
The point is, he gives into his anger and it blinds him. He could probably outplay anyone, but he's too focused on how fucking pissed he is
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>>91990884
Go away!
Shoo!
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>>91991095
He freezes Rey, an entire person and a Force user, in place with something that's probably similar. I don't know why you feel the need to see him do the exact same move multiple times.
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>>91991077
>He does similar things with the freezing throughout the movie.
Yeah but he's still just holding things we've seen Force users hold. Going from Force pushing to then Force levitating to then Force freezing isn't really a huge step.

Being able to freeze in place a superheated blast which has only vague mass is something that's never been done before.
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>>91991125
>Forgot the prequels
>forgot

lol k
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>>91991089
Desperately telling themselves that the old EU was good and not an ever escalating arms race between competing authors on who can make the most overpowered superweapon, villain, and/or mary sue
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>>91991164
?
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>>91991095
>It's like making a martial arts movie where the villain makes his entrance by throwing a hadoken but then the rest of the movie has everyone doing punches and kicks.
This. People keep saying "well he froze Rey and that one officer" but it's not the same thing at all.
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>>91991163
Did you want to see him continue to freeze blaster bolts for the whole movie? Like I said, the point is that he's never as controlled or levelheaded in the rest of the movie as he is at the start. He becomes more and more of a mess as the movie goes on until he's defeated at the end. Of course he's not constantly upping the ante when that's the antithesis of what they were going for.
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>>91991216
>Did you want to see him continue to freeze blaster bolts for the whole movie?

do you know what general you're in? of course they want that
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>>91991201
>>91991216
See this. He's at his best at the start and goes consistently downhill from there. It wasn't a mistake. You see him as a Vader-like powerful bad guy at the start and slowly all the truth and flaws are revealed until you see what's really there. A dude who's a complete fucking mess.
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>>91991216
My point is there are ways of doing that without giving him this one weird broken power that's never relevant again.
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I like Kylo Ren and Hux, the Finalizer is probably my favourite ship, and none of you can stop me
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>>91991125
>forgot the prequels

Can't forget something that doesn't exist, anon.
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>>91991300
I like Kylo and Hux but the Finalizer is boring.
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>>91991089
She was Mando trained, Rey was not
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>>91991284
>original force power
>"weird broken shit"

star wars fans were a mistake
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>>91991284
But he continuously uses the freezing, so it is relevant. You'll probably see him do it again in the future. The freezing thing is even his main power in the new Battlefront game. He's good at freezing things. Just because it's not on the same level as the laser doesn't mean the laser stands entirely apart from everything else he does.
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>>91991284
I'm putting money on it not showing up in TLJ either, and when asked Rian will say "I thought it was dumb so I didn't use it"
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>>91991201
Except for the part where he freezes Poe, of course
Because that's a thing Kylo does in that scene, he freezes the bolt and Poe who was trying to run after taking his shot
So its pretty reasonable to call it the same thing really
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>>91991359
>hurrrrr he changed the scar so he'll change the character and his abilities
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>Talking about Force powers
>Not broken by definition
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>>91991340
>Just because it's not on the same level as the laser doesn't mean the laser stands entirely apart from everything else he does
It really does, though. Freezing a laser and freezing a person are on two very different levels.
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>>91991340
>Kylo's power is just freezing things, a power that isn't particularly dark and is even more defensive than offensive
>Rey's power is mind control, which in a video game probably means she sends enemies attacking each other
What did they mean by this?
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>TFA defense force
Oh, I see /tv/ is here
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>>91991392
Again, he's his most powerful at the start so he does a super powerful thing. I don't get why this is so hard for you to understand. He was meant to do the most impressive thing at the very beginning so you see how far he falls.
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>>91991397
either

A) they're just giving them the force powers they used the most in TFA
or
B) they're doubling down on Rey's mind control thing because it was so unpopular and they're going to make it a big part of her character/origin
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>>91991416
I'm from /tv/. TFA is shit and RO is my second favorite in the series.
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>>91991425
>He was meant to do the most impressive thing at the very beginning so you see how far he falls.
But my point is you can show him being powerful without needing to do that. That's why I gave that hadoken example.
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>>91991416
TFA was shit but Kylo was not and most complaints revolving around him are retarded and are made by braindead plebs
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>>91991470
The analogy fails, when you see the hadoken guys downfall due to his emotions. He's getting more and more desperate to win
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>>91991277
Honestly I'm convinced this is one of the main reasons certain people really didn't like Kylo, fundamentally his character was a bait and switch played on them
They went into TFA wanting their masked bad ass Vader knockoff, and by the time the film ended they'd pared that down to the real truth: under the suit, Vader is still very much Anakin Skywalker
>>91991300
I wasn't sold on Hux but Domhnall's performance of that speech really turned me around on his character
The Finalizer is a sexy slab of guns and armour. Yes fundamentally its 'just' a bigger, uglier Star Destroyer but so was every attempt to continue the class after that in the old canon.
Kylo is honestly my favourite character from TFA, he's connected to a lot of really interesting pot threads and the man himself is equally interesting
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>>91991470
Is freezing a laser bolt really that hardcore to you? You're acting like he jumped into heaven and slaughtered Jesus with his mind.

>>91991481
You could easily argue that Kylo is shit. But yes, most of the complaints are usually retarded.
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>>91991489
>You could easily argue that Kylo is shit

Yeah, if you're a retard or ten years old and thought he wasn't "kewl enough"
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>>91991216
>Like I said, the point is that he's never as controlled or levelheaded in the rest of the movie as he is at the start. He becomes more and more of a mess as the movie goes on until he's defeated at the end.
Kylo's whole path in the movie works really well as a demonstration of his loss of control, but given the way JJ thinks I'd be surprised if this was actually intentional.
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>when it finally dawns on you that /swco/ really is just thirty or forty people and you're arguing with the same old faggot over the same damn thing you did last week and neither of you will change each other's mind
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>>91991487
>, Vader is still very much Anakin Skywalker
Fucking this. Did people forget that Anakin was also a whiny bitch drama queen?
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>>91991512
I think it's more about what you think a villain must or must not be. If a villain has to be super scary and everyone that isn't fails, then you think Kylo is shit. If you think angsty, emotionally erratic male characters are shit, then you think he's shit.
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>>91991515
Nah, it was pretty unsubtle. They even had him permanently ditch the mask at the end because he couldn't hide his "vulnerability" anymore.

It's not like this is a particularly advanced or nuanced storyline. Like an anon above said, they did a somewhat similar thing with revealing Vader as a sad and tired looking old man.
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>>91991552
If /swco/ had usernames, we would all memorize each other pretty quickly.
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>>91991552
It took you this long anon?

you should get checked
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>>91991515
It was definitely intentional, but I'm not sure how much credit I'd give to JJ, it feeds too well into the other movies for it to have come from him
The consistent visual theming is very JJ though, even in his worst movies he's very consistent about themes even if the idiot never fully develops them in a way that might elevate the movie
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>Diego a pixiecut cutie 6/10
>Riz a lesbian model 7/10
>Donnie teaches your english lit class, mom/10
>Ben molests an autistic kid 9/10
>Hayden 10/10
>John is nice to everyone but settles too soon 6/10
>Oscar 9/10
>Ewan has an amazing music career Lorde/10
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>>91991606
>It's not like this is a particularly advanced or nuanced storyline.
True, but JJ's been known to accidentally wander into good characterization without meaning to. For example I'll bet you anything his thought behind the laser thing was just "I'm gonna put this here because it's cool!"
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>>91991553
They chose to forget because they associated it with some of the weakest scenes in the prequels I suspect
Still, the response to Vader being a towering hyper Gothic-edge lord with a sarcastic streak in Rogue One at least shows people are opening up to the idea that yes, it is very much Anakin under that helmet. Plus Matt Lanter's cameo on Rebels
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>>91991684
>fem Hayden
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>>91991552
>And most times they're friends, like you and me! I should've known way back when... You know why, Anon? Because of the kids. They called me TFAPoster
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Someone clearly forgot to tell Disney what Jedi can or can't do.
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>>91991825
No, it's cool, they know Jedi can't fap.
They can have sex but they can't fap. The code forbids it.
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>>91991840
>every time you fap, a Jedi cries
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>>91991684
>>Oscar 9/10
Not with that stubble and manjaw
>ClearlyaMan/10
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>>91991858
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>>91991877
No one cares about that Jedi

he was a total bitch
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>>91991825
I know this is bait, and I shouldn't respond, but do you really think there was ANYTHING even remotely resembling a list of stuff Force users can and cannot do with the Force?
You do remember that in the very first movie, Vader literally says the Force is greater than even the power to destroy entire planets with a single shot right? Let alone all the ridiclous shit Force users have done over the years in Legends. Shit, Starkiller pulled an entire Star Destroyer out of orbit with the power of the Force alone, and George Lucas signed off on that project
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>>91991864
But my god, what a drag queen he would make!
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>>91991684
>female Ewan
>gives a Cate Blanchett vibe
W-what pottery is this
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>>91991917
>he thinks Vader meant the Force could give you planet-killing powers
Did you not watch the end of the movie?
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>>91991917
>George Lucas signed off on that project
He signed off on most major projects in the EU including both KOTORs, but good job falling for the "b-but TFU was canon at the highest levels!" meme.
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>>91991825
Why do people keep saying "Disney Star Wars" and "Disney did x to Star Wars" when it's still Lucasfilm and always has been? It's owned under the Disney umbrella but most people at Lucasfilm have already been there for years.
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>>91992062
The people blaming Disney for everything don't actually know how any of this works.
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>>91992062
because TFA was so derivative in its plot they could not fathom that Lucasfilm could make such a shitty movie
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>>91992010
Never said it was canon at the highest levels, just saying that Lucas clearly never cared to set any limits on what could and could not be done with the Force?
>>91991982
That's not even remotely what I said, I just said greater. And what's the end got to do with it?
The greatest display of Force power in ANH is Obi-Wan becoming one with the Force, and even then I'd very much doubt that's what Vader was talking about
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>>91992100
>That's not even remotely what I said, I just said greater. And what's the end got to do with it?
>The greatest display of Force power in ANH is Obi-Wan becoming one with the Force, and even then I'd very much doubt that's what Vader was talking about
Because Vader's talking about the Force as an instrument of destiny, rather than as a literal superpower. Luke didn't need to suddenly gain DBZ superpowers to destroy the Death Star, and in the end the Force triumphed over the technological terror the Empire had constructed.
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>>91992100
>And what's the end got to do with it?
The final score was Force: 1, Death Star: 0. The very thing Vader warned them about ended up happening.
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>>91990277
>S****'s lightning

Why do stupid OTfags think that Sith lightning should be exclusive to Sidious?
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>>91992100
>That's not even remotely what I said, I just said greater. And what's the end got to do with it?
>The greatest display of Force power in ANH is Obi-Wan becoming one with the Force, and even then I'd very much doubt that's what Vader was talking about
It's not always about big displays of power, though. The Force helped Luke destroy the Death Star in a much more subtle way.

You could argue that we saw something similar in Rogue One- Chirrut goes to the control panel, praying the entire time and hoping that the Force will let him reach it. He manages to avoid getting hit just long enough to do it. Was it luck, or was the Force giving him just enough of a hand to let him fulfill what it wanted?
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>>91991917
Nobody in TFA did anything insanely impressive with the Force anyways. People whine about Rey but everything she did was low level stuff that people find relatively unimpressive from a Force user. Things many Jedi did barely thinking about it, and that she could only do at the very climax of the movie. The only problem is that she learned it too fast.

People act like the characters in TFA were moving moutains.
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>>91991512
He is shit though

People saw a different movie than i did cause i saw a fool who lost all threat and credibility in his debut movie
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>>91992340
I'd say the blaster bolt thing counted.
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>>91992291
>>S****'s
Why have you done this
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>>91992291
because every instance where it wasn't his power was retarded shit

>TFU
>AotC
>TOR
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>>91992381
It was cool looking but I don't think normies were sitting there like "wow this is the most impressive thing I've ever seen a Force user do!" It's not like it's a power that popped out of nowhere that doesn't have basis in other things we've seen Force users do.
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>>91992428
>It was cool looking but I don't think normies were sitting there like "wow this is the most impressive thing I've ever seen a Force user do!"
I don't know about those exact words but I know a few people who said they were blown away by it.
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>>91992420
Did you forget Dooku uses it in TCW too?
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>>91987783
When Bendu and Thrawn were demolishing and laying waste to Chopper Base, do you think any of the "little bogans" were hurt ot possibly killed? (pic related)
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>>91991553
Except he wasn't

He was cocky and arrogant not whiny

It's 2017 and people are still pushing this meme
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>>91992469
only because he used it in AotC
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>>91992464
I think shooting fucking lightning is more awe inspiring. Or even all the crazy jumping around and lightsaber fighting seems more over the top.
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>>91992420
>AotC
>retarded shit

(You)
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>>91991045

Did you not watch the movie? On Bespin Luke hits him full on with his lightsaber and it bounces right off.
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>>91992482
Anakin literally whines. So does Luke. I don't remember Kylo ever whining but people call him whiny constantly. Though I'm sure some good whining is on its way. It runs in the Skywalker genes.
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>>91991626
It's been so long since Ive been on a fourm, ive forgotten about having usernames and the reputations they use to have.
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>>91992506
it sucks. almost all of it fucking sucks. it's a shitty ass movie and TCW/RotS being good doesn't make it any less shit
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>>91992533
>Anakin literally whine
What does Anakin whine about?
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>>91992493
Lightning is definitely cooler but it's also something people have gotten used to.
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>>91992291
>S****
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>>91992554

Which is one of the big reasons I'm never going back. Fuck the idea of regulars and reputations. Your opinion is either retarded or it isn't.
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>>91992596

THIS IS OUTRAGEOUS

IT'S UNFAIR
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>>91992629
...and he was absolutely correct in his outrage. He was passed over for saving the Republic and Jedi Order not to mention the council throwing his Padawan to the wolves. Also, are you forgetting the only reason they put him on the council was to spy on the Chancellor?
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>>91992699
>it's not whining if it's justified

NOPE
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>>91992589
Except its fine, you've just been fooled into thinking its bad
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>>91992738
no movie with that amount of boba fett wank can be good
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>>91992724
>a long, high-pitched complaining cry.
Anakin did not do this.
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>>91992805
With just Kylo alone as proof, a lot of people seem to think the definition of whining has changed to something different. He isn't even as annoying as Anakin yet, and people are already saying he whines just as much by being an emo loser.
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>>91992865
I think temper tantrums sort of count
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>>91992699

Anakin was on the council at an age before Obi-Wan was even a knight.
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So I'm reading all current Marvel SW titles, and have read all of them thus far. Am I the only one who thinks they're just really trash? Why is it so fucking hard to write a good SW comic?
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>>91992886

I'd say the Tantrums are worse. With whining you can say it's kind of justified because Uncle Owen is a dick or the council are jerks. Ben throws tantrums and breaks valuable military equipment at random.
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Should I?
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>>91992865
I never said Kylo whined. I dislike his character because he massacred Luke's order for... reasons? He wasn't born a slave, was not distrusted by the people who raised him nor had his padawan thrown away like garbage. Kylo has no justification for his behavior.
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>>91992898
>killed a Sith Lord, had a Padawan, uncovered numerous plots to destroy Republic and Jedi Order
>lol no master rank for you
They never wanted him as a master in the first place. Are you not getting it?
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>>91992947
He was manipulated by some old creepy guy since childhood. Possibly even since he was in the womb based on some quotes from Aftermath. Aside from that, we still don't know what made him this way.
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>>91992947
The best anyone can gather, he was just mad at mom and dad. Even with Anakin's resentment of the Jedi, he was also so desperate to save his wife that he was conned into becoming a Sith. So far we don't have anything on Kylo aside from thinking Han was a shit and grandpa was cool. Even the idea that Snoke has been quietly whispering to him since before he was born is kind of weak since that still doesn't tell us what made him decide at some point in his life to turn his back on everything.
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>>91992945
Dew it
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>>91992945
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>somewhere there's a rebels season 4 where eighth brother has joined the team, ezra has temporarily joined the empire and the inquisitors are still the main enemies instead of the show just jumping from EU/normie OT reference to EU/normie OT reference

we're in the wrong timeline
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>>91992945
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Jesus Christ /co/ was shit today

>million Jack threads
>million Wendy's threads
>waifu shit not in a general yet

At least I have swco
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>>91993165
>using /co/ for anything but /swco/
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>>91993046
>Even the idea that Snoke has been quietly whispering to him since before he was born is kind of weak since that still doesn't tell us what made him decide at some point in his life to turn his back on everything.
It puts him into an Anakin-Palpatine situation, since Sheev also got his claws into him fairly early but even then it took more than just "Palpatine is my friend and he says I'm great!" to turn Anakin. Hell, if it hadn't been for his absolute fear of losing Padme (and once again failing to prevent the loss of someone he loved), it wouldn't have worked. Despite his issues with the Jedi and his longtime friendship with him, Anakin was still ready to turn on Sheev and his desperate need for knowledge he believe Sheev had was literally the only thing that stopped him.

So if it turns out Ben turned because "my parents are unfair and don't understand me and Uncle Luke is a loser but Mr. Snoke says I'm special and I can be just like grandpa", it'll be really disappointing.
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>>91993046
>Kind of weak
It really isn't. If someone is whispering in your ear for years to change your path, it's a big deal. There obviously is another reason too and probably has to do with what Luke discovered about the Jedi that makes him think they should end.

Snoke is emphasized much more than Kylo being mad at his mom and dad. In fact, it's very much established that he doesn't really hate them.
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>>91993260
>There obviously is another reason too and probably has to do with what Luke discovered about the Jedi that makes him think they should end.

the earliest Jedi were just violent usurpers of Snoke or whatever he was a part of, and gradually became the peacekeepers that Anakin knew

Ben and Luke finally find this out and Ben says "are you fucking kidding me"
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>>91993222
>using 4chan for anything but /swco/
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>>91993297
I think Snoke was whispering truths and lies to Kylo and Kylo didn't believe it until he found out a few big ones were correct, so he believed the rest. Like what the Jedi may have been and that he was Vader's grandson, which we know Leia and Luke never told him.

If you start questioning everything you've ever been told and feel like you can't even trust your family, it makes sense that you'd be inspired to turn.
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>>91993297
That'd be either really brilliant or really stupid
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>>91987889
Looks like Annie thought Dooku was going to go up the middle so he tried to jump back but miscalculated Dooku's swing.
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>>91993402
this is actually me. The only other thing I read on this site is stories in >>>/cgl/ They're fucking hilarious though
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>>91993101
>where eighth brother has joined the team

>not Seventh Sister

I'd imagine her sneaking into Ezra's bedbunk at night and cuddling into his side to wait until he wakes up, just to freak him out and see the look on his face.
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>>91987889
Anakin didn't have the high ground.
>bu-bu-but neither did Dooku
High ground is a Jedi concept. Wouldn't work with one that has given over to the Dark Side.
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>>91993297
Both Kylo and Luke think the Jedi should end. Kylo just seems to think that Snoke and Vader's way is the true way and that as long as Luke is around, they'll come back. No matter what Luke thinks, I guess.

Or maybe when Kylo first turned, Luke didn't think the Jedi should end and he does now. It's not like Kylo and Luke have seen each other since then.
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>>91993402
>/tv/ was my main after /v/ in 2010
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>>91987889
he was stunned by dookus fucking speed force, dude is a master fencer.

id shit my pants and open my arms up wide to
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>>91993222
That sad moment when I find the Disney Park threads comfy to a degree...
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>>91993165
hiroshimoot is making a /pol/ version of /b/ soon since the former is attracting large amount of new traffic to the site

i don't want to say that's why most boards are shit lately, mostly because they've always been sorta bad, but....
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>>91993443
>>91987889
This. Dooku uses a feint and then undercuts him before Anakin can react.
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Thoughts on the Machete Order?
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>>91994699
I love the concept of alternate viewing orders, but that order in particular is garbage. Especially if you don't watch I at all
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>>91994699
>Skipping I

Come on, man.
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>>91991315
Well, if Rey is a Kenobi, she may have some Mando heritage too...
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>>91994699
4 5 1 2 3 6 is great but skipping 1 like machete does is fucking stupid cancer
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>>91994942
you can just skip 2 instead
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>>91994699
Anything other than release order is always always always wrong.
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>>91994970
kys yourself you'reself
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>>91994993
>He fell for the release order meme
>Not chronological order
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>>91994942
4 1 2 5 3 6 is nice too because it breaks up the prequels a bit and still maintains all necessary surprises, though maybe too much hinting of Anakin's turn in 2 so maybe 4 1 5 2 3 6
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>>91995026
>not chronological order plus TCW and Rebel marathons in between films
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>>91995111
rebels ruins tons of old characters though
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>>91995042
That's true, you keep both plot twists without having all 3 prequels in a row because ANH tells you that Luke's father is Anakin so you're properly introduced to TPM and AOTC. You could conceivably do alternating chronological 1 4 2 5 3 6, but while TPM works as a decent introduction to the galaxy, its characters are less archetypically easy to follow.
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>>91995135
I know, but it has to be done
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>>91995135
-t. EUDF
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>>91995135
>ruins
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Fascinating, captain. What sort of a ship officer would use two phasers as a main tool in any form of space combat instead of proton torpedoes and a deflector dish?
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>end of Rebels season 4 has Ezra captured by the empire with the rest of the team thinking he is dead.
>new series picks up right after ROTJ
opening scene is Ezra on a prison world occupied by the empire.
>lightsaber cracks and burns its way through the door
> chunk of metal flies to the other side of the cell
>Ezra looks up, nearly dead after years of imprisonment
>..Kanan...?
> I'm Luke Skywalker and I'm here to rescue you.

How awful would that be?
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fuck sand
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>>91995445
>proton torpedoes

Get off my starship.
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>>91995466
I might not actually hate Rebels if the show ended on a grim note for the Jedi characters without sending them off to the Unknown Regions or some other cliche bullshit.
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>>91995510
proton photon
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>>91995466
>> I'm Luke Skywalker and I'm here to rescue you.
>They just reuse the ANH audio
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>>91995026
The story generally makes more sense in release order. It's not incomprehensible if taken chronologically, but I think some of the impact is lost.
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>>91995466
I'd rather he and Kanan just get killed off.
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>>91990930
It was completely gratuitous in an otherwise overly gratuitous scene in Rogue One and I loved every bit of it. Mostly because the main plot was already over and it was an "oh fuck" moment that was sold by the freaking out rebels, also despite how overpowered Vader was he still failed to obtain the plans.

First scene with Vader and Krennic was done well, second was pure overdose of fan service but it worked. I suppose mileage could vary.
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>>91995571
True, there are a few moments in the prequels that have more impact with knowledge of the OT.

>Imperial march with the proto-stormtroopers and proto-star destroyers at the end of II
>Closeup of Anakin's robot hand at the end of II
>Palpatine's "throne" in the observation deck at the beginning of III
>Alderaan at the end of III

I'm sure there's more.
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>>91991095
I'm not even sure what it shows as a power. Vader could bat aside bolts and possibly other powerful force users but it never really comes up. That actually works for Vader well in ESB because although they can deflect with a blade he doesn't draw it. He in essence does nothing overtly offensive or hostile, just "nopes" away Han's shots and steals his gun, then calmly asks them to dinner. Kylo's is more...anomalous. It's probably a powerful technique but seems to be a continuos event that doesn't require Ren's concentration or effort. It's just a kind of "stasis" effect that lasts for awhile and then the bolt flies off again. For me it's more of a moment that leaves me wondering how the hell this power is supposed to work and what actual use could it be. Impressive, but like a shittier version of a blade block since eventually you have to move out of the way or otherwise deal with the blaster bolt.
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>>91995878
One use I can think of for that kind of move; if you're particularly sadistic, as dark side users tend to be, is you could potentially execute your attacker with their own shot. Somehow I was half-expecting Kylo Ren to do this to Poe.
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>>91995952
That could be a nice psychological touch, at least as long as combat isn't continuing. Though honestly the worse terror attack was stabbing someone as you make out with them. Kylo should have learned from records of Ventress, dammit!
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>>91995519
ill watch the whole series if it end sad
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>>91996161
Star Wars never ends sad. Prequels with the fall of the Jedi and darkness spreading across the galaxy? Still hope. Rogue One with all the main characters dead? Still hope. No matter how grim the work there is always hope in Star Wars. Even ESB still had hope despite losing Han.
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>>91991300

>The Finalizer

God, what a terrible name for a flagship.
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>>91995878
Vader catching Han's shot wasn't using the Force, it was using his robot hand.
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>>91996291
Robots don't deflect blaser bolts. Luke's prosthetic sure didn't in ROTJ, there has NEVER been any indication or proof his armor or cybernetics ricochet blaster bolts. Hell, if they did he wouldn't bother to use his own troopers as human shields so often.. And he didn't catch them, he sent them into the walls.
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>>91996221

There's still hope until the next asshole with a black cape and red lightsaber shows up. And it's always an asshole with that exact combo. It's never something new.

Hope is meaningless before marketing executives.
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I've been out of the loop. What's going on with Mark Hamil?
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>>91996291

No. Luke cuts off his hand with his saber on Endor, but his saber ricocheted off Vader on Bespin. It's a force thing and the force thing only works until it's intercepted, just like Vader couldn't catch himself when he fell on Endor despite trying.
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Post your face when Felucia returns.
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>>91996348
He's playing Luke Skywalker in the new Lucasfilm production "The Last Jedi" which is the eighth episode of the long-running Star Wars franchise.
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>>91996386
I'm not going to get my hopes up.
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>>91996399
Apparently he's not happy with it.
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So, I recently rewatched all of Clone Wars and Rebels.

And I'm starting to realize Ahsoka might be my favorite Star Wars character. I love how when the Clone Wars movie and show started she was annoying as fuck. And somehow the criticism from the audience reached Filoni and he turned that into deeper character development.

Watching her character grow throughout Clone Wars and become another massive reason for Anakin's fall from grace is amazing,

And then bringing her back into Rebels the way they have is just insane.

Is her book any good? I really want to pick it up.

Just crazy how the extended media of Star Wars is creating better characters than the films.

Does anyone else feel this way??
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>>91996629
I think she turned out better than everyone thought she would. She's alright.
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>>91996629
>Does anyone else feel this way??
Many people, yeah. Though not me, personally.
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>>91996629
>you can literally see the pixelation on her face markings

I'm not USUALLY one to complain about cgi, but FUCK.
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>>91996471
They didn't make that shitty fucking Force Tree shit canon, did they?
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>>91996856
http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/star-wars/news/a826339/star-wars-the-last-jedi-mark-hamill-disagrees-with-luke-skywalker-storyline/
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>>91995445
>asian rex

He's Maori, though.
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>>91996911
Based as fuck. I honestly trust Hamill to know what "real" Star Wars is as much as Pablo or Filoni. He always seemed to be the one that "got it" among the big stars.
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"You're a Sith Lord!"
"Am I? Even if true, that's hardly a crime. My philosophical outlook is a personal matter. In fact—the last time I read the Constitution, anyway—we have very strict laws against this type of persecution. So I ask you again: what is my alleged crime?"

I really, really, really wish this were still canon. Best interchange in the series.
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>>91996291
You see Vader catch and redirect a bolt in R1
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>>91997042
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxL8bVJhXCM&t=1m11s

1 minute, 11 seconds. Right after bisecting that guy on the ceiling.
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>>91997076
That's not really a catch, though, right? That's a straight up reflection into that guy. He was just stalking forward with his first closed until ready to palm deflect, though I DO like the idea that Vader's closed fist was holding a blaster bolt that entire time ready to throw it at some dude.
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>Watching Rebels, up to Twilight Of The Apprentice
>Fucking
>Helicopter
>Sith

I swear to fucking god this is the dumbest fucking shit I absolutely love it.
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>>91994699
I like going 145236 personally
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>>91997249
>Sith
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>>91997249
>complaining about helicopter lightsabers when we've seen teddy bears destroying armored transports
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>>91997387
He did say he loved it.
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>>91997402

Apologists are super fucking salty at the first hint that their extended cable series on a microbudget may not be gods gift to cartoons.
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>>91997402
He called it dumb. But we've seen far dumber things in SW.

I can buy a helicotor lightsaber but an A-Wing destroying a SSD is too much
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>>91996986
What's the sauce?
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>>91997076
I like to imagine the Emperor was sensing events from afar during that scene.

"Good, Vader. Use your hate and anger, feed from their fear. Gooood... Wait, now you're just showboating. Vader, do your fucking job. They're copying that fucking floppy, Vader! Vader! This is why I won't give you a helicopter saber! ... I knew I should have sent my Secret Apprentice, Darth Bob."
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>>91997428
Technically the A-Wing just destroyed the bridge. What destroyed it was colliding with the Death Star.

Sounds like a nitpick but really it could have been recovered and repaired if it was just adrift in space after the bridge was destroyed.
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>>91997387
>>91997402
>>91997428

Like I said it's fucking dumb but not in an annoying way like other things (Read: Episode 7 in its entirety)
It was fucking hilarious and I want to see it more
I wanna see jedi and sith dogfighting in the skies with one hand spinning a lightsaber and the other shooting a blaster
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>Yet if you were wondering why The Force Awakens just ... worked, where Rogue One didn't, here is an excellent deconstruction by YouTube’s Lessons from the Screenplay, which highlights the storytelling flaws in both films and why Rogue One's were worse.
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>>91997475
It just draws up other questions. Why didn't they just fire a turbolaser at the bridge when the shield was down? Did they not have time?
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>>91997541

They did. They specifically were ordered to by Ackbar.

Did you not watch the film?
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>>91997529
Looked this up on google. Literally dozens of articles. Why are you posting this here though?
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>>91997554
No, he told the fleet to concentrate all firepower on the SSD. Nothing about no time or shields
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>>91997556
To see if anyone had watched or read about it. I disagree with much of the video.
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>>91997554
>>91997541
Technically what took down their shields was the concentrated firepower Ackbar ordered, right? The A-Wing was just the first thing to get through to the bridge.
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>>91996911
It's time for the Jedi to end...and the Knights of Rey to begin!
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>>91997586
You could have just said this and gave your reasoning instead of randomly posting a quote without any context. /tv/ does this, anon. Don't be that guy.

>>91997587
What's the point of having a SSD if a rag-tag team can cripple and destroy it in seconds. Was the Empire completely retarded?
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>>91995878
Putting the force into these video games terms already means you don't understand it.
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>>91997587
No, some fighters took down the bridge shields
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>>91997613
>It's time for the Jedi to end... THE OPPRESSION OF HIGH PRICES! Come on down to Uncle Luke's Discount Lot for the best deals on landspeeders, swoops, and podracers with 0 credits down and available financing! Don't be a bantha brain, come on down and SAAAAAVE!

>Located on Ahch-To, right behind the Sam's Club
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>>91997637
>What's the point of having a SSD if a rag-tag team can cripple and destroy it in seconds. Was the Empire completely retarded?
It was hardly seconds and the Rebel Fleet probably suffered extremely nasty casualties, but then they were between a shit load of Star Destroyers and a Death Star, they didn't have a lot of good options.

>>91997658
How do you know the fighters weren't able to destroy the shield emitter (the spherical structure they destroyed) because the rest of the shields were down? Destroying that may have just kept the shields from coming back up.
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>>91997706
That alone would have been better than sitting in ireland for, what, a decade? Doing squat?
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>>91997613
>we want the axilla audience
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>>91997916
Much less than that, Bloodline puts the reveal about Leia's heritage around 25-26 years after ROTJ. So, minus a few months for Kylo's betrayal to happen and Luke to wander the galaxy till he found Ahch-To, he's been there about 3 years or so
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>>91997428
Star Wars is dumb. Nobody is going to deny that, yet here we all are. Dumb doesn't mean 'I don't like it'.
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>>91997967
Bloodline is 28 ABY, TFA is 34 ABY. However it should be noted that the Jedi did not fall by the end of the book and we still aren't sure when they died. Maybe the Vader information being released lead to Ben's fall but we can't be certain.
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>>91997850
>How do you know the fighters weren't able to destroy the shield emitter (the spherical structure they destroyed) because the rest of the shields were down
Because we're never told that the Executor lost its shields. We are only told that the bridge deflector shields go down after the emitter is destroyed
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>>91997613
This will be exactly what happens
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>>91998076
Leia talks about being in irregular contact with Ben and Luke as they travel around the forgotten corners of the galaxy, so I think its safe to assume Ben hadn't fallen by the events of Bloodline
So that tells us that Ben fell and Luke retreated from the galaxy at some point within a 6 year window. Considering we know that Kylo has developed a reputation amongst both the First Order and the Resistance (of which the latter do not know Kylo is Ben) I'd say it probably happened maybe 3 or 4 years before TFA, with the reveal of his heritage a major factor for Kylo because if nothing else it plugs into the Vader obsession too perfectly for it not to be
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>>91998169
How many times did you want the movie to tell you somethings shields were down? That seems like the kind of information that winds up on the cutting room floor so they can add more scenes with ewoks.
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Holy crap, just watched twin suns

Kenobi straight up iced that motherfucker
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>>91990834
oh gosh

i love it
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>>91997613
Boooooooo
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>>91997249
Sithcopers are the best thing ever

fuck you
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>>91989865
Yeah he is, and I am glad he has stuck with the prequel/Lucas love.

When TFA came out, like a lot of people, he jumped on the Pegg hype-train of "this is how Star Wars should be!"

But Smith, unlike Pegg, realized this was a mistake.

Both Smith and Pegg got to spend time with Dave Filoni at Lucasfilm. Smith now claims that Filoni has re-invigorated his stance on Lucas and the Prequels being perfectly respectable and welcome parts of the Star Wars franchise.

Pegg went to go help JJ make TFA.

That's all I gotta say on that.
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>>91998476
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>>91996911
>When I turn around, the audience is going to hoot and holler because it's such an obvious cheat

Oh guess what, Ben is Luke's son.
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>>91997249
A WEAPON TO SURPASS METAL GEAR
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What if The Last Jedi is bad, and this time normies notice it, too?
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>>91998516
They/we blame Rian Johnson even if it's not his fault and then move on to the next movie.
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>>91991552
Our post counts often go over 100, and accounting for the fact that many posters are passerby's, or don't post in EVERY single thread, I'd say we have way more regulars than you might know.

I'm pretty good at recognizing certain posters though, and I am actually 100% certain I have had identical discussions with anons before, but I don't want to be rude and drop a conversation that they might be enjoying. Sometimes I wonder if they realize too.
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>>91998528
I just worry that Disney is going to do something really stupid. These hints that we're going to learn something about the nature of the Force, and the "truth" behind the Jedi, don't sound good. I think Disney is a little arrogant about Star Wars. They assume that people will eat up anything with the Star Wars brand behind it, and so they seem to be making some miscalculations about just what kinds of ideas work in the Star Wars universe and which ones don't.
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>>91998538
>repeat the same conversation over and over
>both know you're doing it
>both too polite to say anything

Definition of insanity
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>>91998438
Yeah it was pretty slick take down.

The pottery will blow your mind though.

90% of the fight is the mind games in which they switch stances.

Obi-Wan starts off in a stance he has used in the Clone Wars, but slowly transitions to that of Qui-Gon Jin.

This lull's Maul into a false prediction, and he actually tries to fight Kenobi with the same move that killed his Master (see: >>91990834)

Kenobi, of course, was counting on predicting this.

Like you see him in ANH, Kenobi is old and worn, and isn't going to be able to out-skill Maul. But he CAN outsmart him.

So he plays Maul right into his hands, and then kills him in three swift strikes. If this hadn't worked, and the fight went on longer, Maul would have won for sure.
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So, Filoni had the permission to show another clip from the unfinished CW series, does that means we'll get another arc for Clone Wars Legacy? Gosh i hope the man someday will get enough decisional power do to the fuck he wants and finish the series
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>>91998590
He will never ever get that kind of power
The Clone Wars was losing money as it went on, but only getting more expensive per episode. If they did finish the series it would be with a much, MUCH reduced budget
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SATOHU ACKBAAAAAR!!!

RIP you stone cold motherfucker
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>>91998590
I don't think so.

This is a very disappointing answer, but I THINK the only reason Filoni was waiting on permission to show that clip is because Lucasfilm were unsure if they wanted to use Cad Bane in the future. That clip doesn't seem to bode well for Bane. Hell, they don't show the aftermath, but it's a safe conclusion to say Bane is dead now.

The unfinished TCW episodes are canon, but they have the added benefit of being able to choose exactly what we know. If something hasn't been shown to the public, then it's not too late to tweak stuff. For example, the Siege of Mandalore probably wasn't going to end with Maul, Rex and Ahsoka running away into hiding and both surviving. Not unless George himself was planning to do his own OT show at some point, which we have no reason to believe he was. So they could have tweaked that arc to account for both of those characters surviving until Rebels.

So yeah, I believe the only reason Lucasfilm held that clip is because they wasn't sure whether they wanted to use Cad Bane some more, but they probably decided against it and let Filoni show what happens. I don't think they have anything else to show.

(Also im gonna finish my reply in another post...)
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>>91998700
>>91998590

>i hope the man someday will get enough decisional power do to the fuck he wants and finish the series
This wont happen for four reasons. Firstly, money; (like >>91998635 says), the show was being personally funded by Lucas who wanted to have movie-quality animation on the small screen. He was throwing obscene amounts of money at the show, just to make it look pretty. Disney doesn't quite see Star Wars Tv as a passion project like Lucas did, and are only giving Filoni enough money to make the shows work. I think Filoni has done a great job, having to start a show from scratch on a cheaper (but still nice) artstyle. But this also means that they don't have even half the budget to go back to the huge-scale battles and visuals of TCW.

Secondly, Filoni said that he and the team didn't want to. The show was George's, if he was going to take full control of a Star Wars show, it should be his from scratch.

Third, we basically know most-if-not-all of Seasons 6-7. Through books, comics, and Celebration panels, they've shown us anything they could show that isn't going to spoil future projects.

Fourth, a lot of the stories they haven't shown have likely been re-purposed. Much like how the Onderon Arc has some roots in the cancelled Live-Action tv show, they never let any ideas go to waste. Many of the ideas they had for TCW have likely been re-used in Rebels, or other media. Filoni said this year that while not intended, and while he pushed against the idea for a long time, he now sees Rebels as the true ending to TCW. It just kind of wound up that way. I think this refers to the characters, but also some of the storylines they had.

FPJ also mentioned how they had plans and ideas for 7 seasons. Those, like the cancelled TCW episodes, aren't going anywhere. They'll be re-purposed for Filoni's next show, or books, or comics.
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>>91990616
Vader did something similar at Bespin, and it's been shown some force users can grab a saber blade to no ill effect.
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>orbital bombardment working
>moments away from nuking rebels out of existence
>stop the assault and send in ground troops

WHY YOU GIANT FUCKING SMURF!!?

JUST GLASS THE FUCKERS FROM SPACE!!

I haven't finished the episode yet, but my blood is already boiling. If the Rebels win the victory better be pyrrhic as fuck
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>>91998765
Tarkin ordered Thrawn to capture the Rebel leaders alive. The bombardment was a show of force, and to scare the Rebels from leaving.

Thrawn is a good boy.
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>>91998552
>These hints that we're going to learn something about the nature of the Force, and the "truth" behind the Jedi, don't sound good.

There is literally nowhere to go but up regarding both of those in a world where the prequels and their take on the Force and the Jedi exist
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>>91998779
Considering he seemed to be treating prisoners as more of a bonus than an objective in his conversation with Tarkin I suspect Thrawn was just thinking ahead and setting up some plausible deniability
If the Rebels die to a man defending their base from a ground assault its a shame there were no prisoners but you are fighting fanatics. Bit harder to pull that defense off if Tarkin phones up while the Chimaera is mid Base Delta Zero
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Slave Rey when?
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>throw this traitor out the airlock
>they actually go to do it

It was a figure of speech, just shoot the cunt. Fucking imperial troopers
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>>91998808
>get a lode of this nerf herder.png
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>>91998863
>Slave Rey when?
Is she suppose to be Rey? I thought it was someone's incest fetish.
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>>91998889
>used the dark side to time travel so he can get Jabba's sloppy seconds off his hot mom

Ben wtf
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>>91998875
When dealing with someone who has the authority to throw YOU out of an airlock for disobeying them its probably best to just assume they were speaking literally
That and they could hardly execute him on the bridge, especially in the middle of a battle
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>>91998909
>That and they could hardly execute him on the bridge, especially in the middle of a battle

Why the hell not? He's a traitor, if anything it would boost morale
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>>91998552
While I too am worried that they'll go too far an drop some fundamental TRUTHS about the Force, when it should remain prone to interpretation and malleable, I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt. Best case scenario, they'll just broaden our understanding of it and move beyond the endless light side/dark side squabble to something more variable and ambiguous. That's about the only thing you can do to make the story move forward, else, in the Saga films at least, you're just locked in what TFA was - an endless reiteration of the same simplistic OT conflict.

Change is not a bad thing. It depends on how it's executed.
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*giggles* Just give up, Manchildren~ You're franchise s OURS now ;D
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>>91998917
Weapons fire in a room with delicate electronics and people trying to focus on doing their jobs? Recipe for disaster, especially with a blaster rifle at close range, a through and through is a very real possibility
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>>91998926
- Said nobody ever
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>>91998926
>dat nubian Sabine
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>>91991107
>tfw grew up reading the Jedi academy novels
>and the prince of the Jedi shit
>actually remember tricolous and Leia bot


Poor Jacen where did it go so wrong. Really disliked how he became an Uber edge lord and everything post vong war
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>>91998926
what's wrong with their hips
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>>91998926
Where's Ahsoka and Padme?
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>>91998957
Looks like it used to be an Action Man rather than a Barbie. Fitting really.

>>91998958
Literally who and lol who cares
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>>91991107
>why do people pretend the EU was good at all?

We only think about the books we liked like the Thrawn Trilogy and Rogue/Wraith Squadron and not the dozens of other entirely not good stuff
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>>91995111
>tfw doing it atm
RotS is going to hit hard
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>>91998944
Trying to retroactively make Vergere into some kind of Sith was a terrible idea.
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>>91998926
R2 got awfully chibi, didn't he?
And did Sabine fall asleep on the tanning bed?

Also, if you're triggered by these or think this is somehow a new departure, reminder that a girl's doll was literally one of the very earliest pieces of Star Wars merchandise released way back in 1978.
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>>91998984
Yep they should've had jacen just become an asshole 3rd position

>that bug saga was really weird, boring and pointless
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>>91998926
>there won't be a slave Leia doll
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>>91998944
I always maintain that all of the Solo kids got stuck in the wrong fates. Anakin died, Jaina was the hero (sort of), and Jacen fell to the Dark Side. I think Jacen should have died, Anakin should have been the hero, and Jaina should have fallen to the Dark Side. Would have made more sense.
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Are there any good drawings of Ahsoka as a Genndy Wars-style Togruta?
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>>91999091
Just give it time and the pervert customisers on /toy/ will see to it that there is.
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>>91999109
>I think Jacen should have died, Anakin should have been the hero
That was the original plan, but Lucas didn't want there to be two Anakins in two ongoing sagas
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>>91999109
The original roles for Anakin and Jacen were swapped - Anakin was meant to a hero who succeeded Luke as the leader of the Jedi.

Lucas himself spiked it because he didn't want another Anakin as a main character. That's why it ended up with dead Anakin and Jaina being the last one standing as a Jedi.
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>>91999131
>>91999165
>George himself turned down an opportunity for pottery
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>>91999165
Man, even with the roles swapped they should have allowed Luke (and the rest of the OT cast) to pass the torches.
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>>91999165
>Jaina the sword of the Jedi
>Jacen the heart of the Jedi
>Anakin the leader of the Jedi

Pottery
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>>91998926
>sabine has fabric pants

w-what do you think is under them?
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>>91999244
legs with tan lines
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>>91999244
benis
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>>91999244
Somebody needs to buy one of these figures for this purpose

for research purposes
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Anon? Why are you playing with dolls? This is a girl franchise now!
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>>91991684
What the
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>>91998926
>Dead girl from the worst Star Wars film that kids probably didn't see anyway
>Leia doesn't have her iconic buns
>Is that meant to be Rey?
>Deformed Sabine
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>>91999277
I want to be a little girl
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>>91999277
tfw no togruta dolls
tfw no lekku to play with
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>>91999290
>Dead girl from the worst Star Wars film

But Phasma didn't die. She's coming back in Episode VIII.
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>>91999299

>tfw no Elton John singing at your lesbian wedding
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>>91999109
>>91999198
>wanting Jacen dead and Anakin to fight Jaina
>not realizing the mythological importance of twins having to fight each other and the pottery of that
Jacen was the best one, even more so as a Sith. Jaina should have lost. Anakin had a very heroic and tragic ending, which in and of itself is pottery when you think about it because so did his namesake.
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>>91999369
it's not fair
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>>91999127

>those proportions
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>>91997613

If this fucking happens I'm done with Disney's Star Wars fuck them
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>>91997613
The Jedi are dead, Long Live the Jedi
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>>91998926

Sad thing is this is was Disney wants to do, re toll star wars for girls
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>>91991107
The EU had some good stuff.

>Anything by Timothy Zahn
>Anything by Matt Stover
>Anything by James Luceno
>Stackpole's Rogue Squadron books
>I, Jedi aka Corran Horn mocks the Jedi Academy Trilogy
>Allston's Wraith Squadron books
>The Han Solo trilogy
>The Bounty Hunter Wars trilogy
>Kenobi
>Republic Commando
>Darth Bane series
>Tales of the Jedi comics
>Empire/Dark Empire/Crimson Empire comics
>KOTOR comics
>Tales of the Jedi comics
>Legacy comics

Unfortunately it sat right alongside trash like Glove of Darth Vader, Jedi Academy Trilogy, and Dark Nest.
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>>91990188
The man was too good for this world.
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>>91999586
>Glove of Darth Vader
To be fair, the Jedi Prince books are pretty much a meme. They were actually the first EU stories that were retconned by other books such as Courtship of Princess Leia, went out of print and were never listed in the timelines that were included in most novels and comics.
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>>91999709
But they're such a wonderful meme.

>I bid you... DARK GREETINGS
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>>91999306
You're funny. I like you.
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>>92000010

You're a good friend.
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Someone needs to make an edit of this.
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>>92000031
That line takes a new significance when you know what's going through his PTSD-riddled mind at the time

https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1492814426952.webm
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>>91999369
Man, Legends sure was trippy sometimes.
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>>91999586
Forgetting the Lando Trilogy was well. Young Lando fresh to the Falcon trying to gamble and grift his way through space while fighting and being chased by a Space Wizard.
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>>91998935
WE WUZ MANDALORE AND KARABEEEET
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>>92000080

I like that video, but I always wished they had use Williams' music instead.
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>>92000080
Damn, that's a good edit.
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>>91998926
Nice Leia's Hoth suit doesn't get used that much.
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>ywn be Anakin
>ywn have lv.100 maxed-out midichlorians and +10 force push
>ywn have a secret 10/10 high-cless jewess waifu who's into butt stuff
>ywn have an adorable loli imouto who follows you around, calls you 'master' and rolls her eyes at your jokes
>ywn save the galaxy
>ywn have the best boss, a kooky grandpa type who lets you stay up past your bedtime, hang out in his private box at the opera, and tell you all the best racist jokes and dank evil fables
>your circle of friends will never include 1000 identical Samoans with legit names like 'deadeye' and 'hardcase' who think you're the best and have your back

Why bother? Why even try? Can any man have it this made? Give up while you're ahead.
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>>91997613
She's holding that way too close to the emitter and not near the activation switch.
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>>91999586
I feel like these pre-Ashoka clone wars collections don't get enough love. They're a great set of books/stories, though they could have done without jacking off Vos every 50 pages.
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>>91999586
Jude Watson's young adult books were pretty good.
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>it's an Embarassed Chewbacca and Young Han Solo Go On Adventures episode
>"It Ain't Shmi" plays
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>>91997613
In the end Rey will fall flat because the extent of her trauma will be when Ben had her tied to a table and acted like a creeper.

She won't lose a hand she wont be tortured by Dark Side Visions.
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>>92000186
Oh, but it gets worse!

>if you get a scar it'll look crap and not be, like, a badass eye scar that chicks dig
>ywn badger your Natalie Portman-ish waifu into doing freaky master/slave roleplays
>ywn meet Ben Quadrineros in person
>ywn impress your frosty British mentor so much that he still calls you a 'good friend' no matter what unbelievably evil shit you do down the road
>ywn see your qt padawan in her jammies after she has a bad dream
>no sweet robot arm
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>>92000186
>ywn have your padawan abandon you
>ywn have your best friend and waifu betray you
>ywn be left for dead on a planet of burning magma
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>>92000200
>they could have done without jacking off Vos every 50 pages.
This is mostly what I remember about Legends Clone Wars.

>Vos
>Vos
>Vos
>That one comic where Kit Fisto kissed Aayla Secura
>Vos
>Hey have you seen this character yet? He's pretty fucking awesome, his name is Vos
>Vos
>Vos
>Durge
>Vos
>2003 Clone Wars
>2003 Clone Wars then contradicting concurrent EU Media, AND the movie it was tying into
>And more Vos

I still like Vos though, I even liked Dark Disciple.
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>>92000186
>ywn have lv.100 maxed-out midichlorians and +10 force push
He had at least lvl 70, which is far beyond what most force users can ever hope to achieve.

>>ywn have an adorable loli imouto who follows you around, calls you 'master' and rolls her eyes at your jokes
Ahsoka wasn't a loli by the time her apprenticeship under Anakin began.

>>your circle of friends will never include 1000 identical Samoans
Maori, not Samoan.
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>>92000292
>Those IRL Clones
Holy fucking shit that's awesome
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>>92000200
This is my favorite iteration of the Clone Wars. Love it more than both than TCW and Gendy CW. It's even better if you read the whole comic from '99 as Republic, leading into Dark Times, then Empire and finally Rebellion.
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>>91996629
>And I'm starting to realize Ahsoka might be my favorite Star Wars character. I love how when the Clone Wars movie and show started she was annoying as fuck. And somehow the criticism from the audience reached Filoni and he turned that into deeper character development.

Yeah, it's a funny thing isn't it? In the 2008 Clone Wars film she was kind of this Scrappy-Doo kind of tag along character who was being shoe horned in to a "dead" franchise (ROTS was three years in the past, and Lucas said no more movies so it seemed reasonable to assume the circle was complete and that would be it.) I think it helps that TCW had more episodes centered around the Clones themselves, other Jedi, Bounty Hunters so that in a season of 20 episodes she would appear roughly half so they could take more time with the scripts.
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>>92000292

>no Punished Clone

it's just expected in (CURRENT YEAR ABY)
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>>92000314
The conflict between Hett and Anakin was one of the highlights of the series.
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>>92000292
Rex was bald?! Always thought his hair was dyed blonde for some reason.
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>>92000256
>ywn meet Ben Quadrineros in person
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>>92000448
>Rex was bald?!
Not during the Clone War.
> Always thought his hair was dyed blonde for some reason.
It was. Whoever made that image got Rex wrong and mistook his bleached hair for baldness.
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>>92000505
Ahh, makes sense. Still don't know how it's possible to dye hair that short.
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>>92000447
And then I realized Obi Wan unwillingly set him on the path to becoming Sith by shaming him in front of the whole tribe. Legacy was Obi Wan's fault.

KENOBIAAAARRGGG
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>>92000526

I'm no cosmo expert, but I imagine it's a lot easier to bleach your hair regularly as opposed to dying it.
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>>92000530
A'sharad even begged Obi Wan to kill him, but he let him live like Anakin. True poetry.
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>>91988076
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>>91991107
EUfag here. I don't really care THAT much about the actual stories (there were great ones (Heir to the Empire) and absolute shit ones (Dark Empire)). What I loved was the UNIVERSE. The worldbuilding. The maps, the lore, just the absurd amount of detail that went into EVERYTHING. There were names for the days of the week, for Christ's sake.

(Also EU memes are best memes, DARK GREETINGS)
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>>91991684
Why is Rizzie the color or death?

Also, Krennicfags BTFO.

PLEASE NOBODY DO PETER CUSHING.
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>>91989465
>>91989549
Mirial is also an ice planet.
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>>91987783
Isnt that the guy who played hannibal ?
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>>92000807
The very same
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>>92000807
No! That's my boyfriend Galen
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>>92000807
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>>92000807
No, silly. He's the bad guy from Doctor Strange
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>>92000709
Peter Cushing is already a 10/10, there's no need to make him a woman

It's not gay to admit he's cute because it's objectively true
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>>91987810

God will forgive them for their lesbianism but not for going out without hijab.

Mash'Allah!
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>>92000223
I haven't read all of those YA Star Wars books (the school library I had as a kid was sorely lacking), they were solid though. Kenobi and Skywalker bants, Skywalkers nemesis Ferus, that Jedi Apprentice book which had Anakin back in a Podracer
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>>92000264
>ywn get badass suit of armor that strikes fear into the hearts of whomever lays eyes upon you
>ywn hunt down the last remnants of a corrupt and obsolete religious order
>ywn wipe out entire platoons of terrorist combatants
>ywn become the most feared being in the galaxy

Anakin is literally the Chosen One.
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How would RoTS end if Padme wasn't a moralfag and supported her Husband?
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>>92001346

If Padme wasn't a moral fag she would have just told the Jedi Council she was fucking one of their knights and there was nothing they could do since he's an important general.
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Why wasn't the ending of the Bounty Hunter game the opening scenes of Attack of the Clones?
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>>91998926
I'm actually jealous that girls get a badass star wars hero like Jyn when growing up all I had was Anakin

even ST kids get Finn who is pretty badass
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>>92001434
>Finn more badass than Anakin
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>>92001434

You were born too late to admire Luke or Leia.

You were born too early for Finn.
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>>92001469
anakin sucks pham
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>>92001480
Your momma sucks muh dick pham
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>>92001434
I grew up with the EU's golden age and the journey to ROTS. This generation. They don't know. They missed out.
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>>91999369
This is the best image I've seen on 4chan in a week.
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>>92001434
You got Droidekas, be happy.
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>>92001408
'Cause it took place ten years prior?
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Watching Rogue 1

Where does it fit chronologically with Rebels?
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>>92001605
Currently? After it. Rebels isn't up to Scarif yet.
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>>92001513
Grew up? man do i feel old.
Grew up in the era before the prequels, saw the hype of TPM, where the Duel of the Fates music video was played so often on music shows.
Witnessed the rise of games like the PC X-Wing and TIE Fighter franchise, Dark Forces, Rebel Assault, Rogue Squadron, Shadows of the Empire. the GOAT Super Star Wars games on SNES and the bullshit Gameboy ports. The aftermath of the Thrawn trilogy (was only 5 when Heir came out, but still read the books since dad bought them)
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>>92001434
I was a fujoshit from an early age.
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the falcon is overrated as fuck and ben blows it up in TLJ

Finn bails BDT out of jail and they all steal a fancy new ship that will most likely be the ST's falcon

discuss
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>>92001434
>Anakin
>Luke
>Obi-Wan
>Han
>Ahsoka

And yes, I am counting Ahsoka because fuck you for thinking girls need girl characters, and boys need boy characters. If you think this way, it makes you just as bad as Kathleen Kennedy.

Good characters are good characters. If you can't like one because of the gender, then that's a problem with you, not the characters.

Girls should be able to enjoy Star Wars whether they are watching Anakin, Luke, or Rey. The very idea that girls needed Rey to get interested is not a problem with Star Wars having "not enough girls". It reflects a problem with society and girls.
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>>92001605
Right after. Rebels seems like it is going to end just months before Rogue One starts. (Although exact details wont be finalized until the final episode actually airs)
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>>92001346
Anakin would have grown too powerful for Sheev to control, and would have deposed him just like he said he would. He would have literally balanced the Force by destroying both the Jedi and the Sith in one fell stroke, and the only proper Force-users from that point forward would be the children of House Skywalker and their Imperial Knights.
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>>91998944
>>tfw grew up reading the Jedi academy novels
>>91989401
>i cared about Jaina, Jacen and Anakin.
So did I, anons.

I grew up reading the Junior Jedi Knights, Young Jedi Knights and the Academy trilogy and whole bunch of other shit. Doesn't matter how shitty Kevin J. Anderson (and his wife) were ultimately at writing, I never the less have fond memories of those characters and stories. They grew up in the books, and I grew up irl.

I suppose we'll never see any in-movie lightsaber colours besides boring old Blue, Red and the occasional Green? Have all other hues been retconned out of existence? They could sell a lot of toy lightsabers if they provided a rainbow.

>Jaina - violet
>Jacen - emerald
>Anakin - pale blue?

Why do I remember this useless shit and yet important stuff slips into one ear and out the other these days?

I don't know what final fuckery occured in the latter stages before TFA came and blew it all the fuck out, but I have fond memories of those characters, and must admit that, even though the prequels and general growing up have for the most part dampened my enthusiasm for the series as a whole, I was very disappointed that Rey didn't just turn out to be Jaina Solo and Kylo, Jacen. I had hope watching TFA that there would be some kind of reveal.

Oh well. Don't get why the fuck the spawn of Leia and Han would be called "Ben", but whatever.

It's just a movie.
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>>92001871
In nu-canon Vader didn't lose any power or potential by bring in the suit why didn't he decide to kill Sheev himself?
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>>92001926
there is a 50% chance that Rey will end up being Kylo's sister
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>>91990834
Maul should be cut in two there.
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>>92001734
>Anakin
>Luke
>Obi-Wan
>Han
>Ahsoka
>Barriss

And yes, I'm counting Barriss because fuck you for thinking nerds need nerd characters, and jocks need jock characters. If you think this way, it makes you just as bad as Pol Pot.

Good characters are good character. If you can't like one because of fitness level, then that's a problem with you, not the characters.

Nerds should be able to enjoy Star Wars whether they're watching Obi-Wan, Anakin, or Padme. The very idea that nerds need Barriss to get interested is not a problem with Star Wars having 'not enough nerds'. It reflects a problem with not enough Islam in Star wars.
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>>92001926
Dredging up this stuff makes me wonder who they would've cast as the twins.
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>>92001934
Because he had nothing to do it for
He killed the love of his life and, he believed, his unborn child
Its only until he learns Luke is his son in the comics set after ANH that he gets his motivation back and starts planning to overthrow Palpatine in earnest. In the nu-canon anyway
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>>92001934
He did.

Read the Vader comic. (Or just, you know, watch ESB)

One he realized just how bad Sheev screwed his life, he decides that he would overthrow him with Luke.

That "join me and together we shall rule the Galaxy as father and son," thing was not a lie, Vader genuinelly wanted Luke with him, and to overthrow the Emperor.
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>>92001934
>In nu-canon Vader didn't lose any power or potential

He did lose a lot of potential. But he still had enough that he would've eventually surpassed Sidious.

> why didn't he decide to kill Sheev himself?

Guess he didn't want to wait another 10 to 15 years to become more powerful. Having Luke would've been a short cut on time.
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>>92001746
So Jin and Saul were doing their thang whilst Eza was on Lothal before meeting the ghost crew?
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>>92001966
Only if you believe there's even the remotest possibility Disney would stand up and say "Remember Han and Leia? Not only are they so utterly fucking brain dead they didn't realize their own fucking daughter was literally right in front of them, they are both such absolute cunts that they willingly abandoned said daughter on a desert scrapheap for over a decade without once even trying to look for her"
Rey Solo is a fucking retarded theory that, at its very core, involves pissing all over the OT hero trio and making them complete assholes for no good reason
Same thing goes for Rey Skywalker
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>>92002059
Saul? You mean Saw? Yeah probably.

Jyn isn't with Saw by the time we see him in Rebels. (At least, from what we can tell)
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>>92001990
I always imagined Jacen as James Marsden.
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>>92002096
She mentions that Saw abandoned her when she was about 15 or 16, so he's probably already cut her loose by the time of Rebels
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>>92002079
unless whoever was in charge of the birth stole the kid when she was born and lied about her death
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>>92001990

>everyone look vaguely upset while staring in a different direction!
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>>92002120
Still doesn't explain how both the mother and the father could spend an extended period of time around Rey and not even suspect
Or how she looks nothing like either of them
Or how someone Force sensitive, even untrained as Leia is, couldn't figure it out or sense Rey's presence
Plus there's the fact its not foreshadowed in the entire movie. The only reason people are saying Rey is a Solo is because of Star Wars' utterly fucktarded history of literally everything being somehow connected to everything else because the EU was nothing if not a desperate scramble to steal some reflected glory off the movies
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>>92000526
its science fiction. they got tech for that.

I kinda hate how thye went out of their way to make every clone face in TCW unique. MAde me wonder if Republic flagships had hair stylist and tattoo parlors on board.

Personalised detailed armor would have been enough.
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>>92000117
For some of the oldest pieces of the EU, those books were incredibly clichéd and unoriginal retro-pulp scifi yet at the same time they were preposterously edgy. Good Lord I've read some stinkers in my time but those are an insult to all that's good about Star Wars.
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>>92002114
I guess Rebel Rising will show this more
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>>92001723
>the falcon is overrated
I agree
>ben blows it up
That'd be pretty cool. And I think it's sort of necessary. It's only right since the OT cast is handing over the torch.
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Do you believe it?
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>>92002536
no
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>>92002425
But overall it feels rather forced because this has to be the "new trilogy"
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>>92002574
>>92002425
Ben blowing up the Falcon will be a god tier scene though, it's the final revenge of Vader
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>>92002574
I'd rather they forced something new than forcing something old like they did with TFA
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>>92002637
Cept we'll get a new old ramshackle op ship which will work with Rey because she's such a great pilot.
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>>92002656
except the new ship is fancy and modern (stolen from the casino planet) and driven by BDT and Finn
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>>91997441
ROTS novelization
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Post sexual deviants
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>>92001723
Actually I'm seeing Falcon as Ben's salvation. Its the only part of his family that is left. And that he'll be the one to run off with it after he gets tossed aside leaving them with the new ship.
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>>92002536
I believe it to the extent that Lucas intended "poetry" to bounce between his movies, and that TPM was constructed to cleverly introduce Star Wars to newcomers without ruining the experience of the Saga, while still serving as a fulfilling "sequel" to people who had already seen the OT.

I am not sure the order of connections and mirroring presented in the theory is intentional though, because it goes out of its way to ignore all of the poetry outside of what works with the theory.

Also, relevant viewing:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7ZW1gtCljs
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Rogue One is acting like I'm supposed to care the sarcastic jewish robot died
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>This is where things get weird. His ship is really fancy. The interior looks like something you would see from Canto Bight. It looks like if someone took the J.J. Abrams Star Trek films and designed the interior of the Falcon for a new Trek film. The cockpit has a very nice singular red seat for him to pilot from. In the back of the ship, it has a communal section like the Falcon where a crew could sit and socialize. But instead of dingy white seats and a chess board it has a very nice bright curved blue booth with a table (no word on a chess board) and it looks more like a nice hotel than something Han Solo would live in. The inside of the ship at Pinewood was a mixture of Amidala’s Nubian ship from The Phantom Menace mixed with the look and feel of the Abram’s Trek and a few hints of the sleek “Apple” design aesthetic we saw revitalize the look of the classic Stormtrooper into the First Order Stormtrooper we have today. If the Falcon is a Winnebago this ship is a luxury yacht made by Bill Gates.

trigger word included above but sounds like a good ship
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>>92002722
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>>92002863

Yep that's the ship that'll get blown up.
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>>92002780
For that I'll give that George 100 percent had a better eye and idea for eye for Cinematography.
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I'm excited for The Last Jedi
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Why are Kaminoans so qt?
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>>92003084
Everyone is.

Even the shitposters.

Let's face it, we spend our free time bitching about Star Wars. We're emotionally invested enough to do so. We complain on our internet spaces, but we're all going to be buzzing in our seats on day 1.
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Rogue 1 had exactly the ending I wanted for Rebels - spend all that time introducing us to these characters then at the end every last fucking one of them dies horribly because it's a prequel and they have to be gone by the time the original story comes around.
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>>92003129
>Everyone is.

Not really. Plenty of people are excited for it, but not everyone. After the disappointment from Episode VII, there's some caution now. Some folks don't want to get their hopes up.

>we're all going to be buzzing in our seats on day 1
Except for me, because a movie ticket is too expensive and I don't want to drive 37 miles to the nearest theater.
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>>92003126
What happened to them after Order 66
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>>92003206
>they have to be gone by the time the original story comes around.
I really don't understand this attitude
We spend several hours establishing that there's a wider story and there's heroes across the galaxy fighting the good fight, but that all has to be packed up and squared away by the time the movies come around because.......reasons?
The galaxy is more than big enough for the Ghost crew to be lost and forgotten about. The only 'snag' is Kanan, and frankly Luke never makes that big out of his Jedi training in the nu-canon comics so its not likely people would drop recommendations to him where he could learn. They probably just think he got lucky, Gold Leader came within inches of making the shot without the Force after all
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>>92003266
>What happened to them after Order 66

Their contract with the Republic was terminated.

In all likelihood, they probably continued with their cloning business as usual, but the Empire likely restricted what they could and could not produce.
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>>92003278
Why the fuck would Mon Mothma not mention to Luke that they had two other Jedi to help him out?

Why would Kanan and Ezra not introduce themselves to Obi-Wan's apprentice?

Hera was in Rogue 1 so she has to live up to that point, but there being Jedi and not using them after all that shit they've accomplished is nonsense. Anything other than death or permanent depowering will annoy me and my manchild head canon til the day I forget about it (never)
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>>92003206
Neither Rogue One nor Rebels needs all its characters to die.

And neither of those started with that in mind either.

Gareth remarked in an interview that there was always going to be survivors in Rogue One because he didn't even consider the possibility that he was allowed to kill everyone. Kathleen said he could if he wanted, so that happened. But the original drafts of the story had survivors. (Presumably Jyn and Bohdi?)

Ditto with Rebels. Hera is already confirmed alive until Endor and beyond. Rex is implied to be alive too.

Kanan is the only one who will probably die because both Thrawn and Tarkin know of him, directly acknowledging him as a Jedi, which would align poorly with ANH.

But everyone except Kanan could easily survive Rebels without contradicting the OT.
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>>91994699
unless you're already a fan of all of the films I honestly think anything but release order is the worst possible way to watch the films, especially Machete Order for someone watching them for the first time. And with how divisive the prequels are I think going from ANH/Empire to TPM/Clones is just going to make the difference in quality more evident. Not a prequel basher, but you know that going from the two films that are considered the best to the two films that are considered the worst isn't the best idea.
>A New Hope
"wow that was great"
>Empire Strikes Back
"holy shit that was amazing. Darth Vader is Luke's dad?"
>The Phantom Menace (assuming you don't skip it even though the Machete Order does)
"w-what"
>Attack of the Clones
"it gets better, right?"
>Revenge of the Sith
"Okay that was better than the last 2 but not as good as the Luke ones. Well at least I get to finally go back to Episode 6, that should be the best one, right?"
>Return of the Jedi
"oh. I mean the Jabba stuff was cool. And Luke and Vader was good. He's in Episode 7, right? Oh. At least Han is in it a decent amount, he's on the blu-ray cover"
>The Force Awakens
"oh"
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>>92003348
>Bohdi
Poor fuck deserved to live.
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>>92003345
What reason do they have to believe Luke is a Jedi? He made one lucky shot, and he carries a lightsaber. Neither qualify him as someone Force sensitive by themselves or even together
That and like I said, there are post ANH comics that show Luke learning bits and pieces from Obi's journal but he wants to be a Rebel first and foremost. Seeking out a rumoured Jedi isn't something he's going to do
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>>92003359
>And with how divisive the prequels are
You'd be surprised at how not true this is outside of the Internet fandom

> I think going from ANH/Empire to TPM/Clones is just going to make the difference in quality more evident.
There isn't any difference.

> Not a prequel basher, but you know that going from the two films that are considered the best to the two films that are considered the worst isn't the best idea
Only if you keep falling for the memes that the prequels are bad.
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>>92002722
>>92002908
Is there a connection between yellow skincolour and and unnatural sexual behaviour?
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>>92003576

There's definitely a connection between yellow skin color and being a terrorist in this series.
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>>92003622
Yellow skin, probably not.

Yellow eyes, on the other hand...
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>>92003383
Why?
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>>92003402
>rumoured Jedi

Leaders of the rebellion have witnessed Kanan and Ezra do incredible things with the Force. Hera is a general in rebel HQ, that's more than rumors
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>>92003622
She hasn't terrorized anyone though
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>>92003654
Not the same guy, but I'd say that it's because he's the most innocent.
My first version is "because he has suffered the most", but I'm reading the OR novellisation and it is clear, that Jyn suffered more, she's just supressing it.
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>>91995717
this. Plus arguably the greatest moment of the entire saga ("I am your father") doesn't have the same effect if you watch them chronologically. Obviously everyone knows the twist even if they haven't seen the films, but there's still some impact if all you've seen so far is A New Hope compared to all 3 prequels and ANH

Did anyone here see the films for the first time chronologically? Wondering if anyone who actually did see them for the first time like that could add any input.

>born in '97
>parents introduced me to Star Wars when I was either 3 or 4
>have a VHS copy of the '95 release
>Watch ANH, mind is fucking blown
>friend lends us their copy of TPM after it comes out on VHS
>confused as fuck because I thought it was meant to be a sequel to ANH but I have no idea who any of these people are except for Obi-Wan
>even at 4 years old I'm completely indifferent to Jar Jar or really anything in the movie except for the final duel
>ask my dad if the little blonde kid is meant to be young Luke
>tells me it's his dad
>confused as shit and just want to watch Empire
>manage to see the Vader reveal without knowing beforehand
>put RotJ on
>"wait didn't Luke lose his li-OHHH"
>favorite color is green, running around the room losing my toddler mind at Luke's lightsaber
>see AotC eventually
>5 year old me thinks it was terrible, not even corrupted by Plinkett or knowing anything about movies being good or bad. I just hated the entire thing
>Still hype for RotS
>A week before it comes out, mom surprises me with tickets that her friend's daughter won in some radio competition to see the film early (the girl didn't even like Star Wars lel)
>Sit next to two fucking obese black guys who are too big for their seats and are basically overflowing into mine
>don't care, too hype
>losing my shit the entire time

tfw managed to have the most kino childhood. Oddly enough my opinion on Attack of the Clones stayed the same over the years while my opinion on I and III switched.
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>>92003670
Name one instance where they were witnessed using the Force to do something impossible by human standards
The most Kanan has done around other people is stuff like Force leap and sensing presences. Nothing dramatic like telekinesis
Ezra used mind control in front of Sabine and Hondo, but since that never seems to have come up again I assume she never told anyone about that
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xH-ZrFXov_g

Anons, /our guy/ ranked the Star Wars movies!
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>>92003713
Well that and he just came across as scared shitless the entire time.

And with being a pilot he also had a decent chance to make it out alive.
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>>92003673

>Space Nazi
>Samurai helmet
Listen, she's either behind the Nanking Killings, the Holocaust, or both.

She's terrorized plenty of people.
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>>92003787
I can't say a specific instance from memory I admit, but Mon Mothma knows Hera and knows about Phoenix Squadron having two Jedi. The fuckers trolling Thrawn for months is top rebellion news, and even failing that Hera is right there on Yavin - nobody ever mentioning her Jedi crew to Luke is nonsensical.
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>>92003266
Sheev probably had Lama Su and a couple of other high ranking officials and scientists quietly done away with to ensure they wouldn't gab to he rest of the galaxy.
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>>92003791
/ourguy/ already ranked the SW movies though
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>>92003832
Yeah, that's why I like him and Finn.

Both are clearly aware how out of their league the situation is and how fucked up everything is and yet they find it in themselves to push forward. Shitting their pants every step of they way, yet forward.
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>>92003894
Hard to argue with that
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>>92003791
Oh fuck no

>The only good things about ROTS is the nods and connections to the OT

Fuck you Pegg
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>>91997586
subscribed to that channel (I'm an aspiring screenwriter and he makes really good videos) so I saw it a little bit after it was posted.

IMO regardless of whether you like RO or TFA more the video does a great job of explaining why TFA is better from a purely screenwriting perspective and how RO's script is lacking in terms of characterization and pacing. And yeah TFA is just ANH while RO has more worldbuilding, but if you're just talking about the screenplays (which is what he was talking about) then TFA>RO. It's the same with TFA and Return of the Jedi, but that doesn't mean TFA is better than Jedi as a whole, just that the script specifically is better.

Out of curiosity, what parts of the video did you disagree with?
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>>92002120
That doesn't explain why Han and Leia would never mention such a tragedy, especially in the wake of their son's turn. No, they only ever mention Kylo. In the movies, the novels that specifically follow Leia's thoughts and feeling, everything.
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>>92002079
>Rey Solo is a fucking retarded theory that, at its very core, involves pissing all over the OT hero trio and making them complete assholes for no good reason
So, you're saying that it's pretty much inevitable at this point, right?
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>>92003962
From just the first few minutes I skimmed, there's a few issues, namely that he gushes about how Rey is portrayed in her first six minutes... And then she's borderline schizophrenic for the rest of the film, making any development there kindof moot. I also don't really think the two are comparable as characters given RO's an ensemble film and TFA, unfortunately, is primarily about Rey. You're going to gloss over more in the former than the latter, and it's weird to say "show, don't tell" and then go "wtf why isn't Jyn reacting in some over the top way to some dude rattling off her rap sheet like she's probably heard dozens of times before" Going so far as to say that OI THIS IS A REBELLION INNIT would have been better than her rather neutral reaction, which is frankl hilariously wrong.
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>>92003962
>>92004043
Not the one you're replying to btw, just wanted to throw my cents in as well.
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>>92002079
It's also the most boring possible story. But Rey Skywalker will probably happen and idiots will eat it up. B-but muh rehash won't extend to that. Then again, those same folks are for some reason hoping that Rey being Luke's daughter would make Luke the main and most important character again. I think that's half the reason they care so much about it.
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>>92003962
I watched that video too.

Heavily disagree with his criticisms of the first act, misunderstanding the use of Saw Gerrera, misunderstanding Jyn's failed mission to save her father, and misunderstanding that a passive protagonist was better for that particular story.

He also gave a lot of praise to the execution of Rey, which is just absurd to me. She's a textbook example of how not to start a protagonists character arc.

Also, he ends the video by praising Kathleen above anything for the more diverse casts. Fuck that noise.
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>>92004032
Disney doesn't want to destroy the OT heroes, they're just stuck in the situation of having to unpick Lucas' over the top "everyone was happy ever after" ending while also accounting for the fact the OT cast has aged 40 years between the movies
There's a substantial difference between the OT heroes being shown as sliding into bad habits that are perfectly in character for each of them and arbitrarily deciding that at least one of them is such a colossal dickshitter that they'd abandon a 6 year old girl to Jakku
And, before you try it, Rey was around 14 or 15 when Kylo turned on Luke, so she'd already been stuck on Jakku for nearly ten years before Luke disappeared
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>>92004043
>Ira Belle
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>>92001990
when the cast was first announced I thought it was going to be
>Daisy as Jaina
>Adam as Jacen
>Domnhall as Ben Skywalker

which would have worked even though Adam and Daisy don't look identical but then again neither do Mark and Carrie
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>>91998407
Twice is all that's needed
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>>92003852
>She's terrorized plenty of people.
Only the one actually
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>>92003832
>>92003713
>>92003654
>>92003383
I don't care that the main cast of Rogue One died, but the way Bodhis death happened was fucking bullshit
>apparent imperial pilot tries to escape firefight with rebels by taking cover inside an imperial shuttle
>shoretrooper decides to toss a nade in at him
what the actual FUCK was that shit
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>>92004073
Yeah that part really pisses me off. Those exact same assholes have been crying into their blue milk that TFA didn't do anything new, but the moment someone suggests that Rey might be a new hero or the start of a new lineage of heroes they all flip their shit and scream about how she must be a Skywalker
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>>92004156
The age gap is too large for them to ever play twins and they for sure would have gotten someone closer looking to Ridley for that. Why the hell did the casting not tip you off that it wasn't going to be EU redux?
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>>92003787
Leia saw Kanan slice the legs out from under a AT-AT and also saw Ezra almost steal a blaster with the force.
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>>92004181
It also leaves a bitter taste in your mouth for the same reason that Filoni held off on killing Kallus.

He was an Imperial that was helping the Rebellion, and he got punished for it.

But that was the tone of the movie, the reality that not everything in war is fair.
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>>92004181
The Rebels came out of that shuttle and were trying to actively defend it
Plus what kind of Imperial pilot is trying to run a radio line in the middle of a firefight?
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>>92004191
That's because no matter how much they complain, the truth is that they just wanted Luke as the protagonist again. Somehow. Anything less wasn't going to be acceptable. If Rey isn't just window dressing for or an extension of Luke, there's going to be anger. Especially now that he's playing a major role again.
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>>92003894
Rogue One is way too high but Pablo has an attachment to it for some reason so I guess it makes sense why he'd think that
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>>92003894
Pablo's ranking is decent.
For me it's 4>3>RO>5>6>1>2>7
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>>92004075
>misunderstanding that a passive protagonist was better for that particular story.

what? I don't get what you mean by this at all
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6 > 4 > 1 > 3 = 5 > R1 = 2 > Ewoks: Caravan of Courage and the Battle for Endor > 7
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>>92004273
Jyn isn't a protagonist that needs to have a big impact on things.

The Empire and the Rebellion are very appropriately bigger than her and out of her control.

That's why when she takes things into her own hands by going to Scariff on her own, it's such a significant and big difference. That one choice that did affect things. It's in contrast with how she was having to be reactionary until this point.
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>>92003791
Holy fuck, just look at the comments section.
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>Heir to the Empire came out 26 years ago today

fug
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>>92004354
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>>92004181
As an Imperial soldier in the battle, it would make sense to frag the method used to get in, as it cuts off a means of escape. Plus a Rebel taking refuge in there? Who knows how many more are inside. Made sense to take it out.
People do it all the time in FPS games
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>>92003867
Not really. Why would you bother wasting Luke's time and training on some Jedi that you've witnessed in the past?

It's like talking about Ahsoka or Rogue One, these details aren't mentioned to Luke or explored in detail because it's not really that important or practical.

Ezra could very well be alive and jerkin' it on Lothal or somewhere, but why tell your only Jedi to go off and explore the galaxy for a "Jedi" that has abandoned the cause? Sure he 'could' help but he could very well be just a waste of time.
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>>92004354
>TFA sucked
>b-but the prequels!!!!!!!!
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>>92004730
>adult Ezra

delet this
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>>92004824
>Page 10
I'd wait until the next thread amigo
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>>92004824
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>>92004833

good idea, I'll hold off
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>>92004763
He's moved on. You should too.
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>>92004762
It's the people who go "Well, if Simon rates this then I must too!". Then they go sperging "Oh, look, the prequel hipsters are coming!"
They make it sound like it's a crime to like something else, that's equally or more popular.
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new bread wen
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>>91998407
>sir we lost our bridge deflector shield
At no point does he mention the shield to the entire SSD is down. Also you see the A-Wing crash a specific point of the bridge. Meaning the entire craft was sheidled still
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>>91998538
I wonder if people know who I am based on the specific topics i only engage in
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>>92005183
>>92005183
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