What is the essence of fast?
>>91986655
Speed Force
Toon Force
my autism hates that mexican is in front
>>91987124
It's pronounced 'racism'
>>91986655
But wheres the road runner?
It it because we already have speedy?
>>91986655
Clearly the mouse is faster
>>91986655
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qip7BstpfUE
>>91987124
Toon force > speed force
Also technically Flash is ahead by a pinky
>>91987344
Roadrunner already won.
>>91989081
Flash literally beat someone with instant teleportation.
>>91986655
Two filthy rodents that nobody likes. And hey, there's Speedy Gonzales with 'em.
>>91989194
toon force uber alles
>>91987344
>>91989156
Roadrunner is like the Gingerbread Man. He is only faster when being pursued.
>>91986655
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R9YL-Jt3Pzk
>>91989380
Dumb mousekeeper
>>91989194
Can he get away from Droopy though?
>>91986655
The Flash is ridiculously OP, but I think Hyper Sonic using Chaos Control could probably beat anything.
Someone post that panel of Flash and Michigan J Frog
>>91986655
Attitude = speed
>Fastest Man Alive
>Fastest Mouse in Mexico
>Fastest Thing ALIIIYIIIVVVEE
Sonic wins again.
>>91986655
I was having this conversation with afriendjust yesterday. I came to the conclusion that the flash is probably the fastest character in all of fiction, but sonic is probably the second fastest
>>91991325
Nah, Sonic is probably faster considering >>91989851
>>91991364
but has sonic ever ran so fast that he went back in time?
>>91986655
Nyoom
>>91991364
So Sonic is only faster with outside help? I'm sure there's some bullshit Flash can get if we're doing this
>>91991509
Miracle machine is the most bullshit DC item, but I don't see how that Sonic stuff could beat speedforce alone
>>91991236
>>Fastest Man Alive
In multiple universes.
>>91989780
Ésos eran para la caridad
>>91989194
That's not enough.
>>91989556
Nah. Road Runner is like an electron.
>>91989780
Fuck, I wish modern CN did things like this
>According to Sonic Adventure DX's manual, Sonic's speed is at least as fast as 3840 miles per hour which is hypersonic speed
He's also got the light speed dash and he has moved fast enough to make it look like time has frozen.
But Barry and Wally have far surpassed that speed haven't they?
>>91991834
>But Barry and Wally have far surpassed that speed haven't they?
Correct.
>>91991834
>>91991885
Didn't that fucker cheat using an engine in his shell?
>>91989194
Toon force is pretty strong
>>91986655
I'm not sure but its got to have something to do with the chaotic good alignment, rebelliousness, defiance and hope. Refusing to accept limits. That you can always do more, be faster, make others happier, etc. Flash was a Blue Lantern because he gives people hope. Sonic saves animals from being batteries for evil robots and fights tyranny in general. Speedy is basically Mexican Robin Hood. Theres definitely some similarities.
the niggaforce is stronger
>>91991568
>the whizzer
>>91991364
>>91991834
Why even bother to bring any incarnation of flash into power level discussion when they can just pull bullshit like this?
http://powerlisting.wikia.com/wiki/Speed_Theft
>>91986655
ok comedy physics >comic book physics
But only when it's funny.
Comedy is to dispell any form of serious thought. So comedy force> speed force
>>91992187
because they want to compair top speed not abilities that can take away others.
>>91992560
>speed force
>not funny
Also a vital weakness of toon-force is that while things can work in a character's favor of it's funny, it could also work AGAINST them if it's also funny.
Quicksilver could be the laughing stock of the race if entered yet come out on top at the last second somehow should Speedy lead the race.
>>91992674
this is true, only comedy can beat comedy, or should I say add more comedy.
>>91992660
They've already got to handicap Sonic by giving him outside help just to try and even it up.
>>91991383
Yes?
>>91992857
that'd due to a planets time shift, but I will count it because flash's power comes from speed force.
>>91992560
Well see there's the problem, it wouldn't be funny just for Speedy to beat Flash. There'd have to be a caveat to make it funny.
>>91992970
not if The flash uses his powers to point uses his calculations to a point where it's comical. Like >>91991865
Then there is observational humor like a stand up comedian to dispell cartoon comedy.
>>91993070
>uses his powers to point uses
wow my brain just skipped a beat or something.
If anything Sonic is the slowest in the end. For the sake of comedy being involved the only sonic that could be a contender is The Adventure of Sonic the Hedgehog or Sonic Boom. Archie sonic and modern sonic takes it self too seriously but not enough to be comical.
>>91989851
Hyper Sonic is not canon, Super/Hyper Sonic had never been portrayed as much of a speed upgrade anyways. Just invincibility. And "Chaos Control" is basically just teleportation hijinks.
>>91993226
Hyper Sonic isn't canon? What about 3 and Knuckles?
>>91993281
Iizuka has gone on record saying the super emeralds and Hyper Sonic are not canon.
Modern Sonic has discarded a lot of previously established things. Like Mighty the Armadillo.
>>91993333
NOT MIGHTY! I liked that little dude.
>>91993390
Well, Generations squeezed him into a background gag, but I wouldn't hold my breath for him to ever be anything more.
>>91993496
yeah it's fine, I went back to being a mario fan boy any ways. May not be fast but he's a lot more fun.