ITT: Panels that fucked you up

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this was the truly the best story line

>>91970766
*tips fedora*

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>>91970962
>The 'thinking for yourself is bad' meme

>>91970766
>>91970809

Did Morty die or something?

That just makes me spit on Summer. If you have access to an asset like Rick, and you're a shitty dead-end human being, that's YOUR fault.

>>91970766

I dunno, it just kind of calls attention to the unwritten contract the show has with the audience. Rick and Morty go on adventures. How Rick convinced Beth and Jerry to agree to this, and why they keep doing it, are only ever implied. Once you actually bring up that this was obviously stupid it just raises other questions.

It's a Watchman scenario where you're so quick to try looking clever you don't realize you just opened another can of worms that seems like a deal as big or bigger.

>>91970809
Childhood is thinking Rick is fun.

Adulthood is knowing Jerry was right... and Beth is an alcoholic cunt who isn't even in the same percentages as her father or even son.

I just think it's a funny cartoon.

I hope it doesn't start sucking it's own dick too much.

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This was before the whole "Betty comes to the future arc" and all we knew about Simon was from those videos in the Christmas episode

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>>91971136
Fuck off, mate

>>91971116
I know you're being ironic but real shit, why do people hate jerry so much?

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>>91971285
I don't think any of the viewers hate Jerry, it's just the people in the show that actually shit on him, and that I think makes him more likable to the viewers.

He was the only one in the family, until Morty recently started seeing things clearly, that actually sees through Rick's bullshit.

>>91971381
Great argument.

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Not an official panel, but I always liked it.

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>>91971250
...Jesus.

>>91971339
The writers have been working pretty hard to portray him as a pathetic weasel in season 2. I think he's being flanderized in response to Rick becoming more and more depraved.

>>91971339

I don't hate Rick or Beth or Jerry. I just kind of think they're all shitty people.

But reddit won't hate Rick because crazy science antics, and they won't shit on Beth because white knighting is still very much a thing. That just leaves Jerry with his cowardice, his insecurity, and his massive inferiority complex. He's an easy safe target to pick on.

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Better 1?
Better 2?

>>91971717
2. I fucking hate the way they do the scribbled in pupils look.

>>91971339
Because he's the guy who knows what's best for you. He's your parents, he's your teachers, he's your boss. He refuses this dimension hopping, wish granting, adventure seeking madman out of the notion that you'll get hurt if you follow him.

And you know what? HE'S RIGHT. Remember when Rick abandoned them in their original universe because he fucked it up with Cronenbergs? Remember when was willing to let his family stay on a minuscule Earth to avoid the Feds? Remember when he put a deadly virus in some Cherry Garcia?

Detractors will say something like "Rick is so smart, he can simply fix all those things, he'll always have a plan, etc." Ignoring the Cronenberg incident, yes, Rick is very smart, and seemingly thinks of everything, like how he took down the Federation in the season 3 premiere.

A lot of people want and expect Rick, and all characters for that matter, to have an eventual defining trait. They're either good guys or bad guys. They're heroes (or anti-heroes) or villains. They might be assholes, but always do the right thing in the end. Or they're just assholes.

But Rick is a very flawed person and his affection for his family, along with it his heroism, seems to comes whenever convenient. He seemingly had every intention of staying with Unity and nearly killed himself when she broke up with him. He took the One Free Morty coupon. Hell, in the very first scene he was going to blow up the planet in a drunken stupor. Yes, he turned himself in at the end of season 2, but one can argue it was all a plot to destroy the Feds from the inside. His rant at the end of season 3's premiere very strongly suggests he really is in it for himself, and bends emotions to fit that, such as making Morty believe in him because he likes having him as a sidekick.

Back to Jerry, he cares about his family's safety and stability. He's flawed too, bit of a coward, lacking skills, boring if nothing else. But he has genuine affection.

>>91971467
Glad to see others noticed that Jerry was made to look more pathetic in season two. I guess they thought it was too easy to take his side in season one when Rick's a huge asshole and Beth's a hopeless enabler.

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>>91970809
source?

is that from a porn comic?

I'm hoping they do one or both of these things with Jerry this season:

1. He's living a good life, gets a meager but stable job somewhere, has a nice little condo, maybe the car he's always wanted, and dates a co-worker (whose dad is dead.) He's doing just fine without Beth and his kids, suggesting they may have been the problem with him all along. But of course, this isn't true, and eventually he realizes his love for Beth is strong enough that it supersedes a normal, happy life. Much like her love for Rick does the same. It might come off sappy and even as the ultimate cucking, but his willingness to suffer for his love is something more genuine than Rick would have displayed.

2. Rick realizes that, just as every Rick must have a Morty, so must they too have a Jerry. Jerry is his control point, the thing that keeps him from going too crazy for his own good. Imagine what it'll be like without Jerry: Beth will allow him to take Morty wherever whenever and be ready and waiting with pancakes when they decide to return, Summer will tag along now and again but mostly be left to her own devices, and Morty, whose trust in Rick wanes, will have no choice to be continue his role as the sidekick. Rick will have no buffer, nobody saying it's a bad idea besides Morty, whom he ignores anyway. He'll always get his way, and that's not too good for anybody, let alone a genius scientist, whose very being is designed to solve problems.

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>>91971643
Right now. You are in a board about cartoons and comic books. This is not /his/, this is not /pol/. You are pretending to be an independent thinker and you brought up religion in a thread discussing comics, and cartoons. Both of us by the way, joined to talk about fucked up moments that made you think about life for a solid moment in these mediums, a full solid moment.
Think of one criticism you have of how liberal modern day society is. You don't have to call me out as a /pol/tard or whatever, I'm not cramming the idea into your head that everything before segregation ended was better One critism of modern day culture due to liberalism. That can be traced back to overly liberal college, high school, middle, and even primary school teachers pushing liberal ideas onto people too young too understand. You are no independent thinker. Being religious is not an independent thinking, but there is genuine thought in it for those who take the time to really read the bible and disconcert it's messages. Tell me what the differences between a kid who was taken to church every Sunday by his parents and listen to the man on stage preach versus the child who, growing up in a liberal society, watches an hours worth of you tube videos of atheists speaking on stage every few backing up his own pre-existing ideas on the religion?

>>91971643
>actually typing out "heh" in your posts
>not being an autistic neckbeard virgin who can't understand why he was never popular
Pick one and then kill yourself m8

>>91971339
No one hates Jerry. He's being shit on to make you like him.

Harmon says he does this in his writing too, the person who draws the most sympathy tends to become the hero of the story, and the more everyone makes fun of Jerry the more the viewers will like him. He's being set up as hated on purpose.

>>91971339
They don't. It's just memes like whenever they bring up Doofus Rick , and someone will bring up how he literally eats shit and it's legitimately funny to quote the bully/background character in these threads.
Don't get me wrong Jerry certainly has his flaws. He's constantly a coward and dependding on how you look at it he's either more willing to fight with nhis family than protect them or reasonably more willing to talk things out with his family before jumping in to protect them of space bugs with disintegration rays pointed at his family brought on by his father in law.

>>91971101
>Watchman scenario
What?

>>91971230
>Betty comes to the future
That's when I dropped the show.

>>91971915
heh. pull the stick out of your ass.

>>91971717
1 is more original to the show but yeah >>91971774 is right overall. You see the full face, thus the eyes way too much in comic form.

>>91971297
>thinking religion is the problem
If religion didn't exist, humans would just find another reason to fight each other.

You're just an ignorant child for believing that shitty people don't exist.

>>91971297
How do you get internet in North Korea?

>>91971297
10/10 bait

>>91971643
>Heh. Classic.
>reddit spacing
you need to go back

>>91970766
>LE CYNICAL NIHILISM!!!! AREN'T I ZO DEEEP AND MATUR?
I wish WW3 would come sooner. Then these emo pussies can know what real sorrow is.

>>91972508
this. then they'll have an excuse to have safe spaces when they have real ptsd.

>>91971230
Such a better use of Betty. and I LIKED magic woman.

http://vocaroo.com/i/s1EBIuNfog2Q

>>91971471
the ultimate terror for me, is that entropy is real, and even God has to work constantly to prevent it from gaining the upper hand

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>>91972675
god

>Reddit and Memey sparks /r/athiests to try and argue on a board where nobody gives a fuck about their beliefs and opinions
Why isn't Reddit and Memey banned
It's worse than MLP on this board

>>91970766
I found out anime, porn and torturing small animals make the existential horror go away

>>91971297
for all bait-intensive purposes

religion is a symptom of the greater disease in man to form their morals and decisions by basing them on social consequence

>>91970766
wtf i love Zac Gorman now

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>>91971250
>we could of had this

DUDE NIHLISM NOTHING MATTERS LE ORIGINL THOUGHT THT REALLY MKES ME THINK LMAO

>>91972675
>Afraid of Entropy, or that it can "get the upper hand"
Just to clarify, Entropy is not "The Nothingness" (or whatever its name was) from The Neverending Story.
It's simply a fact of life that since stars and all other objects in space are constantly spreading energy in all directions, and the majority of directions has nothing in it that could re-absorb it, eventually over untold billions of years, the Universe will get to a point where there are no significant concentrations of energy left.

If there is an all powerful god, even assuming his first answer wouldn't be to just make a new universe, there's countless ways he could counter-act this, ranging from as simple as removing some of the wayard energy and reintroducing it somewhere else in a concentrated form, to something complicated such as some crazy complicated law of (quantum)physics that we can't even imagine yet, which somehow recycles that energy.
It's not completely unthinkable that somewhere such a process exists, but it's either not within the observable universe, or it's in a form that we can't properly measure yet and as such can't understand.

>>91970766
>reddit & memey

fuck off

>>91972767
>he posted it twice
>he literally thinks it's funny

>>91972854
Please turn 18, there's a pretty clear rule on 4chan

>>91971047
They find a Rick's severed head in the garage, thinking it was their Rick's, and they assume Morty is dead.

When actually Rick and Morty were inside the severed head exploring its memories or something.

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>>91971643
>Heh

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>>91972539
I could be mistaken but if I recall correctly our minds don't comprehend trauma in a way that's relative to how people generally classify what's traumatic and what's not, so the idea of "real" PTSD can be contested.

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This fucked me up

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>>91972037
I haven't watched Adeventure Time since forever. What is the deal with Betty?

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>>91971717
the scribbled eyes make her expression look so much more dead though. seems fitting to me

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>>91971250
>instead of dying happy, Simon is forced back into immortality and senility

>>91971101
>I didn't watch the first episode of the show: The post

>>91973178
Ice King went temporarily sane and opened a portal to the past to apologize for freaking her out when he started to become crazy. She instead leaps into the future, Ice King goes back to being crazy, she gets Magic Man's powers, then tries and fails to turn Ice King back into Simon. Ooo gets fucked up by elementals and magic, Finn wants to fix things and she says she knows how, but instead tricks him into giving her the princess' jewels and the Enchirideon from the Farmworld dimension. She tries to erase the current timeline and go back to before Simon wore the crown, but she fails at that too and is transported to Mars.

>>91970766
l a m e


if you get fucked up for this you're gay and easily impressed

>>91972508
>>91972539
What's ironic is raging at safe spaces and PTSD is extremely cynical and nihilistic.

>>91973578
Note that Magic Man was holding that wand that kills you and sends your consciousness on a cosmic journey.

Betty's dead, dude. The writers can't be asked to bring her and Simon's arc to a happy close.

>>91973641
or had perfect toast.

>>91973126
PTSD comes in many forms and while it's easy to misuse the term through self diagnosis, PTSD-like symptoms can be experienced when faced with situations and themes that remind you of something relatively traumatic. It's like a paper cut is still a cut.

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>>91971230
Ice King explaining why, despite a thousand years, he hasn't let the crown completely take over was worse for me
The comics used Betty and the struggle of the Ice King so much better

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>>91970809
Why is comic Jerry smarter?

>Beth, typical mother.

>>91971116
Rick is fun from an audience perspective, but there is no way anyone could handle the motherfucker

>>91970766
>>91970809
>tfw your cheap tie in handles character development better than your expensive TV show.

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>>91973152
I hope Summer gets animated in that outfit.

>>91974356
I have to disagree, as great as this page is. I really like Magic Ma'am. And her inablity to deal with Simon's change in Elements was pretty well done.

And I was someone who dropped the show when Betty came back. I thought that was beyond stupid, but somehow they salvaged it.

>>91974845
What? Morty did that exact spiel in the show, and better.

>>91974781

Don't know what you're talking about. Even in the show Jerry has shown to be the only character smart enough to put his foot down on Rick's bullshit.

Maybe you're only seeing a difference here because without hearing the voice that you've been conditioned to think "always says stupid shit" you're noticing how much sense he makes.

>>91971075
>Rick
>asset
Okay, anon.

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>>91970766
>people take this hedonistic garbage seriously
#yolo amiright goys?

>>91973152
Think I'ma start reading the Rick and Morty comic

>>91971806
Fuck that.

People hate Jerry because, despite being right about Rick 80% of the time, he doesn't put his foot down until Season 3, when it's way too late to change anyone's minds. Because he's so inherently self-centered that he got fooled by a simulation running at 10%. Because he was stupid enough to try and play alpha dog with Snowball and got his face rubbed in his own piss for it. Because he sucks, and he drags everyone down to festering mediocrity the same way that Rick drags everyone towards a fiery death. And most people would rather take the latter in their animated characters.

/co/ as of late loves to believe that Jerry's actually this really decent, competent guy who just needs to get out of Rick's shadow to succeed (which is weird because, less than a year ago, you fuckers knew better). But Jerry's truly brave and altruistic points are just as 'convenient' as Rick's bouts of familial affection. Jerry sold out the Plutonians until it was practically too late. Jerry forced Beth to fend off a violent homeless dude by herself while he hid in the car. Jerry tried to exploit Summer for loan money. He dragged Beth to a Titanic tour that she had no fucking interest in seeing. Jerry refuses to sit down for a day or two and try working things out with his wife, despite their enmity being so strong that it caused that shit in Big Trouble In Little Sanchez. Even in Rixty Minutes, when he didn't have the rest of the family to drag him down, he was basically a smug jerk hiding crippling issues. Face it. Your waifu's fucking trash.

>>91974919
They did redeem it a bit, but I'm always a bit iffy on time travel in cartoons.
Her being unable to deal with what Simon had become was handled well, but the idea that somewhere in the Ice King's subconscious he remembered Betty and that the Lich was able to manipulate that into making IK want to stay in the dream just seemed better to me than Betty appearing in the flesh

>>91971075
>Summer
>shitty dead-end human being

Whyfor?

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>>91975134
Take it easy, it's just some drawings

>>91971339
Jerry has a lot of pathetic qualities to him, but when it comes to Rick, he does make a lot of good points.

The trouble is, because Rick is a more popular character, his detractors are The Enemy, and what's a writer to do, keep the balance between the characters or male The Enemy look pathetic?

>>91975134
It's an understandable overreaction to Rick going full dick after s2's development.

>>91976642
Telling people their waifu is trash is the most noble of professions

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>>91974946
I guess he makes the same decisions as in the show, like the silly quips in the show.

>>91972508
>>91972539
So your response to meme nihilism is to become meme edgelords?

>>91971018
>independent thought and nihilism are the same.
lmao go back to hell, sartres.

>>91971774
Dude: the scribbled in pupils are how you tell different dimensions apart: Go back to S1 E1: rick has different pupils from the rest of his family.

>>91970809
>BRUNK

Wait.

There is a Ricky and Morty comic?

>>91971230
>>91971250
I love AT but these comics never do it for me. Always lack any subtly that the show has but I guess you can't bring subtly to a comic adaptation which feels like it's made for kids more than the show is.

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>>91974356
so the Lich is basically 4chan?

>>91977666
that's just proper writing

>>91977666
>Putting spaces between your paragraphs is reddit
How far we have fallen

>>91977705
it is the only way not to be a sheep
and all sheep must be slaughtered

>>91978037
there are several
there is the main one, then one starring Summer and Mr. Poopybutthole, and one focusing on the Pocket Mortys

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>>91979060
yeah fuck 4chan

>>91972020

Ozymandias's plan to destroy New York and do it thirty five minutes ago is cool and all, but it's predicated on a squid monster made from the brain of a dead psychic.

But the entire existence of psychics was out of left field. The entire idea that there CAN be other people besides Manhattan with superpowers was never even explored. The very existence of such a concept means that the entire story should play out differently, because now instead of it being Dr. Manhattan as a god and everyone else as mere mortals suddenly it becomes a sliding scale and every other nation has an alternate path to their own supermen that's actually viable.

>nhimzm xdd

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>>91979144

the word "reddit" should be made an autoban

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>>91979648
so much this

>>91979583
be glad we're not to /tv/'s level yet at least

>>91977666
Yeah! Fuck actually discussing things! We just need to keep throwing the same canned insults at each other all day long

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>>91979298
The implication, as I saw it, was that psychics exist here in the real world too, they're powers are just not remotely impressive enough to qualify as superpowers. Ozy amplified their powers into a crude superweapon using genetic engineering, but even then it wasn't very precise.

Anyone else think that Summer is more intelligent than she lets on? She even thinks like Rick and the only thing to hold her back is her teenage angst.

>>91977705
Sartre wasn't a nihilist, he was an existentialist.

>wordswordswordswordswordswordswordswords

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>>91971643 (Dead)
>>91971297 (Dead)
>>91971136 (Dead)
WHY IS THIS WEBSITES ARCHIVE SUCH SHIT?? I WANNA READ WHAT EVERYONES ARGUING ABOUT
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

>>91979583
don't restrict my free speech

>>91980212

It's more than an implication, Ozy outright says his monster was made from the genetics of the world's strongest psychics, IIRC.

>>91970766
Did Summer just suddenly wind up in Rick's mindset?
She clearly can't handle it as well as Rick does.

>>91971865
This. I really hope something like this. But since this shit is written by nihilist, it's unlikely.

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>>91982051
This is a alt Summer, original (Season one) didn't like Rick.

>>91977705
>Sartre
>Nihilist

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>>91970766
I actually like the topic of nihilism but R&M has the most juvenile take on it.

Even Bojack Horseman does it better.

>>91980200
half of 4chan is special ed tho.

>>91970766
I hate these kind of people.

They never found any real meaning in life other than 'life sucks then you die' then there are the fags who boil life down to 'the chemicals in your brain'

Maybe they should pursue art/science/or something that gives you meaning. Dear god.

>>91980212

I think you miss the implication.

If Ozy knows as a matter of course that psychics are verified to be real and can amplify them to the point of a nuclear blast, then amplifying psychic powers is possible and psychic powers have to be a thing other people know about.

The SECOND that Manhattan took Vietnam the Russians would be throwing psychics through the grinder until they had something, to the point of probably abandoning other projects since supermen clearly outstrip nuclear power in a very visible way.

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Best panel.

>>91979500
>Amortican Psycho
Spooky

>>91972508

2edgy4me

>>91970766
>>91970809
>>91973152
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>>91982893
Please stop my brain is expanding and pushing my skull!

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>>91970766

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>>91980325
Edgy theists and edgy atheists trying to out edge each other, aka SHIT THAT'S NOT RELIANT.

Lets get back on topic; pic related.

>>91975134
This. So Hard this. It's always appalled me how everyone here immediately took Jerry's side after the divorce was announced.

Jerry was never a good person to begin with. He had just as much a role in Beth's life's decline as she did (aside from the obvious factor) and yet he constantly mocked her job even after he (and his replacement presumably) were fired and Beth was the only breadwinner. He's almost never been interested in Summer as a person and only the original Jerry was interested in Morty's well being; the latter pushed his son under the bus for a shot at fame and accolades over an opinion he KNEW was wrong.

The only reason anyone ever has any sympathy for him is because at face value he's the character who -always- gets dumped on aside from Morty (and Morty some of the time walks into his own misfortune,) and is technically right about Rick but show some fucking perspective.

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>>91977799
the fuck are you talking about anon

>>91979239
Wow, Summer looking good. I'm not really in love with the idea of Summer tagging along often, but these comics are winning me over.

>>91971643
>The average person is a brainless animal who needs to be guided and watched, in one way or another.
Wrong.
SOCIETY does needs to be guided and watched, in one way or another.
A person is smart.
People are dumb.
Never underestimate the meaning of this.

>>91986374
I like and sympathize with Jerry because he's the Frank Grimes of the series. I don't think he's right. He's a coward and a jerk. But he's not anymore shitty than anyone else on the show and he's consistently punished for even mentioning such an idea.

But for me that's what makes the whole thing funny. I'm almost always frustrated and amused by how the universe bends over backwards to fuck over Jerry specifically while rewarding the rest of the family at just about every opportunity. Here's a guy who realizes he lives in a silly cartoon world except when he's literally put into a silly cartoon world in-universe.

I think he's one of the few examples of the Butt Monkey that actually works for me. Probably because the show admits that he's right about Rick and many of Beth's issues but never loses sight about how much else he's absolutely wrong about

>>91973108
Jesus christ.

>>91986924
>Frank Grimes of the series

That is a perfect way to describe him

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Not a panel per se but this passage just sums existence as a whole.

There's just no sense to anything.

Who can know why the Cosmic Balance exists, why Fate exists and the Lords of the Higher Worlds? Why there must always be a champion to fight such battles? There seems to be an infinity of space and time and possibilities. There may be an infinite number of beings, one above the other, who see the final purpose, though in infinity, there can be no final purpose. Perhaps all is cyclic and this same event will occur again and again until the universe is run down and fades away as the world we knew has faded. Meaning, Elric? Do not seek that, for madness lies in such a course.”

“No meaning, no pattern. Then why have I suffered all this?”

“Perhaps even the gods seek meaning and pattern and this is merely one attempt to find it. Look—” he waved his hands to indicate the newly formed Earth. “All this is fresh and moulded by logic. Perhaps the logic will control the newcomers, perhaps a factor will occur to destroy that logic. The gods experiment, the Cosmic Balance guides the destiny of the Earth, men struggle and credit the gods with knowing why they struggle—but do the gods know?”


Meaning, Elric? Do not seek that, for madness lies in such a course.

That line.
That line always got to me.
Also

>We are both truly dead. Our age has gone.

>>91973108
>When Autism, pop-culture, and Cults mix

>>91987086
Erm.

This is a rick and morty thread.

Fuck off.

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>>91987150
How about YOU fuck off?

>>91970809
>>91970766
Anybody else imagine the with different voices when reading this?

>>91987150
Not a Rick and Morty thread

>>91970766
ohh no i read that and im all fucked up now

god dammit

>>91987195
Moonglum!

>>91988178
Elric!

>>91973641
When we are young, everything impresses us.
So when we grow older, we try not to be impressed, to prove how grown we are.
And so in adulthood it is much easier to be unimpressed, and much more impressive to be impressed.

>>91979372
I am irrationally attracted to Sailor Summer...

>>91987086
We as humans lose often lose ourselves in seeking meaning. We do not see the true answer, for it lies in the one thing we fear above all else: the void of nothing.

It is true that seeking meaning leads to madness, when you seek meaning in a transient plane. But the truth lies in the void, in embracing nonexistence, and the nothing we were born from.

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Inb4 edge

Just fuck my shit up

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>>91977666

>spaces between paragraphs = Reddit

How the fuck does that even make sense?

Do you want to read a post with every paragraph crammed into one?

What does this even have to do with Reddit?

Jesus fuck you're a stupid twat

>>91973152
Issue #? Asking for a friend...

>>91971830
>>91971467

Remember that episode where the best day of Jerry's life was in a simulation run at 5% power where he didn't notice the same 3 people everywhere he went or the fact that his wife and boss just said "yes" to everything he said? That was like episode 4, right? Because I struggle to remember anything in the show that makes him look dumber than that.

Also why did the aliens have no problem modeling Beth's vagina for him?

>>91977666
Thank you, I needed that laugh

>>91988705
Upboated

>>91979500
i kinda want to see luchador morty universe where everything is mucha lucha

>>91988716
Dr, Manhattan isn't as edge as people like to think he is.

Literally imagine that you're just some shmuck working at a job that brings you a smidgen of creature comforts and then you suddenly gain such a magnitude of knowledge of the workings of the universe that you are to humans as humans are to a blade of grass. You suddenly understand every single facet of what ACTUALLY makes humans think the way they do, and realize you went from standing in a crowd of people you can connect with to standing in an open field with nothing be the deafening sound of silence because there is nothing in the living world that you can relate to anymore. He isn't edgily "superior" to humans' he's basically an entirely separate sentience that understands without a doubt that YES, all human interact is just a bunch of chemicals that don't matter in the grand scheme of things.

>>91986374
You guys keep talking like the second universe's versions of the family are meaningfully different people than those from the first universe, but I really don't think that's the intention. The point of divergence for universe 2 is almost definitely just Rick solving the Cronenberg crisis. The alternate Smith family are effectively the exact same people as the originals until that point.
If Jerry treats Morty worse now, it's because Jerry has changed, not because of the universe jump.

>>91988716
It's a good panel. I think a lot about how I could live a fine, simple, innocent life if not for having to deal with other people either harassing me, blaming me for bullshit I'm not involved in, begging for my help, or trying to make rules for how I should live.
If I woke up tomorrow and every other person on Earth was dead, I'd go crazy, but no more crazy than I'm already going with them alive.

>>91987086
Name of the comic?

>>91986670
If you watch the show in HD, the scribbles are different in the eyes of people from different dimensions. I don't know about Rick having different scribbles in episode 1, but he and Mort have different scribbles from the family they share the universe with now.

>>91973108
>logo is a fist raised in anger, adorned with laurels, cudgels and knives
>antifascist
It's a good thing that this violent hooligan included a helpful legend to clarify his political beliefs, because I might otherwise have mistaken him for a nationalist-socialist provocateur.

>>91975134
You're a fucking retard.

>>91987086
what is this from?

>>91993953

The comic adaptation of the Elric of Melnibone series. The end of the final book, specifically.

>>91973126
>>91973646
>>91977567
>>>/tumblr/

>>91986374

NOBODY in this show is a good person. The difference is everyone except for Jerry gets a moment to shine, and the audience is expected to laugh at Jerry's misfortune even when he never really set himself up for a pratfall, with the joke being that Jerry kind of sucks and so we should laugh at him no matter the context.

Jerry may have brought Beth down as a person as much as vice versa, but Jerry is the only one who wound up jobless. Jerry is the one who arranged a fake ambulance for her and he's the one who bends over backwards to please other people while there's no concern for the reverse. He's the guy who has to admit that some part of him sees Beth as a goddess while Beth didn't realize jack shit about Jerry.

Yes, he tried to grift his daughter for money. He fails constantly. But that's not the point. The point is we're expected to sympathize with a drunken vet over an incompetent ad man solely because Harmon and Roland don't seem to like marketing people.

>>91995182
What? PTSD is a pretty complex issue from what I know. If you're gonna whip out the /co/mblr buzzword at least explain why

>>91971230
>Everything is beautiful and nothing hurts
Dig the Kurt Vonnegut reference

>>91996257
ok go ahead and believe every college student that tells you that you aren't aloud to talk about certain topics because it will trigger their ptsd.
sorry if I see a difference between solders who get ptsd from war and college students who want ptsd to be snowflakes.
go ahead and play mental gymnastics with me now

>>91970766

Her face in the first panel makes me think of the mom's face from that masturbation PSA:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HOqYEmEHoJ0

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>>91970766
Woow. This. So. Much.
Man it just like...
Really made me think and stuff
This show is just so fuking brilliant.
And anyone who dislikes it is a dumb contrarian sheeple btw.

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>>91996396
There are certainly people who overtly romanticize mental issues, PTSD included, and admittedly I am more inclined to believe a soldier who says they have PTSD than a college student, but like I said, as far as I know our minds don't necessarily perceive trauma on a scale from "weak" to "strong." Plus, everyone is different, something catatrophic to one person could be an everyday thing to another

>>91973108
I honestly like the concept of Rick and Morty No God's, No Monsters but this is just...ugh.

>>91996766
>Monster's
Christ, sorry guy's I haven't slept in a while. Masters.

>>91996756
obviously I see your point and agree, but even though I have body dysmorphia complex you don't see me running around going like "hurrr I have pstd cause of muh trauma."
to me "real" ptsd is when you see your friend get blown to pieces while your either shooting someone or carry thus blown up friend to safety. then expected to not have outburst when you're integrated in society again. I just have zero tolerance for anyone who compares their "ptsd" to a solders ptsd, that all.

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>>91996948
Makes sense to me. I suppose it comes down to how people's minds were conditioned as they grew up. My mother grew up in a third world country and came to America as a refugee, and she often tells me about the stuff she went through in order to come here but in a humorous and lighthearted manner. Meanwhile, a classmate at this program I attended had a huge panic attack over an onstage reading about rape (well, a rape fetish to be specific but still.) Funny how things work like that

So what's the deal with nihilism? They believe life has no meaning, and I kinda agree with that. I suppose life doesn't have any objective meaning.

But what else makes a nihilist? It can't just be that, because I'm sure many people carry that sentiment.

>>91982583
>I actually like the topic of nihilism
Take it easy, kiddo

>>91970809

Yikes. That's fucking brutal. I mean, it's totally spot-on, but brutal.

>>91988898
Upvoted :^)

>>91997694
You sure showed him, 4chummer.

>>91996700
lol you are so upset people like a show, it's so fucking funny. Way to waste your life, cuck.

>>91986374
>It's always appalled me how everyone here immediately took Jerry's side after the divorce was announced.
Exactly what did you expect, dumbass? He's right about Rick. Beth choosing him over Jerry, while good for the show, is an absolutely vile choice for her character and shows just how many daddy issues she has.

>>91970809
This coming from Jerry who goes out of his way to pussy out. Like when Beth was being chased by that hobo

Why is nihilism always seen as a depressing edgy thing?
I believe in the principal of there being no purpose but it doesn't make me broody I just see it as a fact of life.
Hell if anything it's a relief to know there's no sort of cosmic responsibility so you can just enjoy yourself.

>>91970809
Is this before or after he begged his own daughter for money?

>>91999663
He's not wrong, though. As much as Jerry is a shitty husband and father, he knows that Rick can be dangerous to those around him.

>>91999811
teenagers. Also in some sense embracing nihilsim can just be seen as a way of running from responsibility, like Rick always does

>>91977705
That post and your ""logic"" is so retarded it hurts.

>>92001032
So is yours if you think independent thinking is the same thing as nihilism.

>>91997512
Nihilism and depression are both confused

Nihilism is about doubt in inherent meaning/value, depression is not enjoying anything or wanting to do anything.

>>91977666
>>91979648

Fuck off to /tv/, you dumb neurotypical

>>92001047

Lol. You haven't understood what nihilism is, you little clown. Seriously just stop posting.

>>91987086
Don't soil this interesting exploration of fantasy archetypes with your reddit nihilism.

>>92001096
I understand it better than you if you think free-thinking is same exact thing, retard.

>>92001229
>free-thinking
Holy shit are you twelve? Have you read more than one book in your life?

Fuck off, you're just an embarrassment.

>>92001254
>are you twelve?

Are you? Your responses sound like a fucking youtuber just laughing at everyone and acting like a twat while contributing nothing to the conversation, much less any proof of the bullshit you try to say.

>>92001254
>>92001229
>two autistic children attempt to discuss philosophy on a PG-13 western hentai image collection forum

>>92001229
>free-thinking
Lol. Alright thanks for playing, friend

>>92001277
Nice shitpost, kiddo. Come back when you can actually discuss things like an adult.

>>92001229
>>92001270
>>92001289
>implying free thinking exists

Again how old are you and have you ever even picked up an actual book, you clown?

>>92001272
What philosophy? Independent thinking is not the same thing as believing life and existence have no meaning.

>>92001308
End yourself, autist. Seriously.

>>92001301
Only clown is you if you think everyone is in some kind of hivemind nonsense.

>>92001308
>Independent thinking

Lol you just keep on giving, you little shit. Go on keep on going

>>92001332
Take your own advice, junior. Only a retard thinks nihilistic thinking is the same thing as independent thought.

>>91972729
Tanassin?

>>92001308
>Independent thinking
Not him, but you can really stop now. Please go back to school.

>>92001350
Then what is it to you, retard? Go on, tell the class what independent thought is if you're so certain that everyone else is wrong about it.

>>92001369
>nobody thinks independently

How retarded are you nigger? What, you think aliens control us? Magical pixies?

>>91970766
>MUH CHEAP NIHILISM WHOA, REDDIT AND MEMEY IS SO DEEP

This "nothing matters" thing had a little shock value the first time they did it in the Dimensional Cable episode, but now it's incredibly played out. R&M go to this well every time the writers want to make their meme show seem intelligent and it just makes it look like the whole thing's being written by a gloomy teenager who cuts himself.

>>92001389
Please stop posting.

>>92001402
Same can be asked of you, retard.

>>92001400
Doubt the show is trying to be deep, just stupid and amusing. Whether it succeeds in the latter is of course a matter of opinion.

>>92001465
>just stupid and amusing.
WHOOOOWYYYY LOOK AT ME MORTY I-I-I-I'M GONNA KILL MYSELF MORTY HAHA WUBBYLUBYWUBUBUB HAHA LIFE IS SHITTY MORTY WE'RE JUST GOING TO KILL ME TODAY MORTY YO-*UUURP*-YOU AND ME 100 YEARS OF KILLING MYSELF MORTY HA WE'LL I DO IT TOGETHER M-M-MORTY WE'LL DO IT.

>>92001540
Well yes, some people find that stuff funny. Just like how some still think SpongeBob is funny after 20 years of being the same jokes.

>>92001355
>>92001371
Holy shit there is no ""independent thought"", you monkey.
Do you live in the 19th century or something?

You are the retard that brought up the terms "free-thinking" and "independent thought" which are something that is different from nihilism, according to your great and insightful posts.

How about you stop sounding like a fucking illiterate and explain these concepts that you just pulled out of your unreflected ass without giving them a second thought.

Fucking retard.

>>92001566
Kek

>>92001566
The only illiterate is you if you think nihilism is the same goddamn thing as independent thought. It isn't. One is the belief that things are reasonable, the other is believing that everything has NO MEANING WHATSOEVER.

You are the only retard here you stupid nigger. And yes, there is such a thing as independent thought. We are all think differently. It's not some magical coincidence that we have our own personal thoughts. Christ, you are one dense fucking piece of shit.

>>92001556
>Well yes, some people find that stuff funny
Except they don't do that in the show, everytime rick is suicidal it's got sad music and an all around depressing atmosphere that attempts to make it sad and deep.
This gives the rest of the show especially when rick is talking about nihilistic and depressing themes "deep undertones"
in an attempt to make the show seem deeper more intelligent or give it more emotional impact.

The show tries to be deep and anyone saying otherwise doesn't watch the show or is lying in an attempt to make the show seem better when other people complain about how edgy and faux-deep it is.

>>91971343
what comic is this from?

>>92001645
Yet those moments are few and far between, to the point they can be ignored in a few cases. The show is largely just comedy, it attempting deepness is just that, attempting.

Just caught up. Quite a show.

Never thought the divorce seemed a real prospect. All the touching moments they had will now be underlined with 'lol they still split'

The way the ep ended with Rick getting everything his way and Morty being privy to his real attitudes makes me think the season's setting things up to turn against Rick. If the writers are actually serious that is. Either way, Morty's sympathy for his father and apprehension of Rick will do something.

Does ep2 have a date?

>>92001678
>Doubt the show is trying to be deep,
> it attempting deepness is just that, attempting.
so the show does attempt to be deep, which is a part of what people complain about when discussing it.

>>92001688
At least it was something new instead of "lol, they made up for the 50th time!"

I don't know if they were trying to get somewhere with the reconciliations of the past or if they gave up. Either way, this at least could lead somewhere. Maybe Jerry finally stops being a little bitch and mans up like the Cronenbergverse one. Or they just kill him "for laughs" and we don't have to deal with his shit anymore.

>>92001715
Because it clearly doesn't stay consistent. One moment Rick is depressed over losing his sort of girlfriend, then just roughhousing around the galaxy. It's hardly trying in the same way things like Venture Bros, Bojack, and even early Simpsons have where they usually maintain some of those characters depths even if the moments are sporadic.

>>92001688
>his real attitudes
Oops, you're retarded. The speech was a fucking joke you single-digit-IQ-having cocksucker.

Is Dan Harmon still working on the show? Yes? Than Rick is someone who loves his family and hides that weakness with dickishness.

>>92001770
>Because it clearly doesn't stay consistent.
You've moved the goal post from
>they don't even try to be deep it's a comedy show.
to
>yeah they try to be deep but it's not like they're good at it or anything.

>>92001613
>independent thought is the believe that things are reasonable.

Wow. You sure showed me you're not a fucking ibmecile by giving a sound definition of something you just made up and which is absolute first grader bullshit.

> We are all think differently.
Lol. Yeah, some of us more than others. But then again we fucking don't, you retard.

Next thing is you tell me you believe in 'free will', right? Because it would just be as retarded as everything you gave from you so far.

I'm asking you again, how old are you, numb nuts?

>>92001801
>But then again we fucking don't
Prove it then, retard. Prove we don't think differently. What do you think we're doing right now in this "discussion" of ours?

Also, I didn't make up anything, you can literally google Independent thought and see for yourself. But I guess that'd be too much ofr a mouth breathing idiot like you to do.

>free will isn't real
Oh sure. How could I forget the giant six-headed chicken that guides us all!

You really are a fucking retard.

>>91977666
>proper writing and interpunction
>proper orthography
>REDDIT

You insufferable autistic manchild! This is literally the first time I have ever felt such disgust at a poster for posting an otherwise innocous idiotic comment.

And I use "literally" here in its most literal and proper sense. I have a hard time quantifying the revulsion I have for your being, the gulf of apathy I feel for your plight. This is an almost spiritual experience for me, this new understanding of the ample breadth of my emotions. So I hope you'll understand just how sorely inadequate I feel in expressing myself, but kill yourself.

Please.

>>92001791
Nope, the show is going to end with Morty killing Rick

>>92001796
Didn't move anything at all. They're hardly trying. Just because they try doesn't mean they actually are achieving it.

>>92001851
Lol. Go fuck off.
I also really love the part where you ignore how I completely called out your retarded excuse of a definition of what you idiot call ""independent thought"". Good job, you idiot.
Wanna continue?
What are those "things" you mention and what is "reason", you dumb fuck?

>>92001878
>Didn't move anything at all
you literally went from arguing that "the show isn't trying to be deep, it's just trying to be funny" to "it attempting deepness is just that, attempting"
That is moving goal posts.

>>92001910
I didn't ignore anything, retard. But please, keep ignoring the facts given to you so you can keep memeing this shitty "we're all controlled and think alike" nonsense.

>>91988716
He sounds so tired when he says that; I have no problem believing the turmoil he's going through.

>>92001861
Just ignore it. It's the go-to response for people who have no argument.

>>91999811
Real nihilism is much more than that. All these angsty nihilist teens are just lions who crave freedom but are too damn weak and cowardly to actually do something with the knowledge that life has no meaning other than trying to sound deep and intelligent rubbing it in people's faces. Now, the Child, the Superman, that's something else. That's living by your own rules and views on morality without fear of judgement or rejection. That's completely opposite to the generalized concept of nihilism. It's an invitation to enjoying life to its fullest because you're going to die anyway and life in general can suck big time, so it's up to you to make it suck as little as possible.

Somebody posted on /tg/ and the more I think about the more I agree with it: Rick Sanchez is the best example of Chaotic Evil in recent fiction. Rick isn't the hero, he's not even the anti-hero, he is and always has been the villain of the show.
Can a villain have feelings? Yes, but the value he places on them is pretty random from day to day hour to hour, and the things he feels about aren't the same things that a normal sane person would feel about.

There's not going to be one big redemption arc for Rick in this show. Unless I've missed my guess completely Rick's already HAD his big arc before episode 1 s1. He's already won his happy ever after and get's to spend the rest of his days living in his daughters house eating pancakes and either being the ruination or creation of his grandson. His only goal right now is that Szechuan Dipping Sauce, or whatever it will be tommorow.
We only see hints and bits and pieces of this, because this ISN'T a story about Rick Sanchez's character arc, this is a story about Morty's, and maybe Summer every so often as well.

>>92002220
>rick is a plotmobile for morty beth jerry and summer
I have doubts

>>91979298
The usual answer to this I hear is that it's a parody of Silver Age goofiness, which was itself a response to a moral panic and the introduction of strict censorship. The irony in this Silver Age goof plot the heroes fucked up and millions of people died.

But I can see how you could argue that's merely clever but not smart writing.

>>92001178
I think you got it the other way around faggot.

>>91971116
why doesn't Jerry just work out and use an anti science sword to defeat Rick

>>92002253

Really just Morty. Sometimes Summer.

Think of it this way, in shows like He-Man, Samurai Jack, Thundercats etc. Who are the two characters who appear the most in the series, have the most lines, and often have the most interactions with each other? Is it the Hero and his Father? The Hero and his Sister? The Hero and his comic relief companion? Sometimes for that last one. But usually it's the Show Lead and it's the Show Villain.

Rick is the Villain

Morty is the hero. A poor one to be sure at this point, but he's still the guy who struggles to correct Rick's horrific douchebaggery and try to call him out on it.

>Rick's enslaved an entire planet just power his car
>Morty calls it monstrous slavery

>Rick sells a supergun to a space assassin
>Morty calls him out on that as well

>Rick attempts to turn a hobo into a biological themepark
>Morty is supportive of his grandfathers impressive, legal and non-morally reprehensible venture

Of course, the more time Morty spends with Rick, the more blurred that line might become.

>>92002253
Well he does rant about Summer and maybe sometimes Beth getting in on the fun. Of course, it's hard to tell how much of that season premiere rant was serious, given how it just seemed to be a more obscene version of the one he delivered in the pilot episode, just with Morty being more coherently aware of things instead of having an anally induced wig out.

The meme fags shitting on this show are so embarrassing. They feel as if they are rebelling but they're right in line with everyone else, smelling the fumes of their own arogant farts.

>>92002392
Farts can't be arrogant.

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>>92002412

>>92002331
>anti science sword
you need science to make a sword
metallurgy is a science

>>92001645

Except, if "nothing matters" as this show constantly reminds us, then why should we care if Rick is a good person? Why should we care if he lives or dies? Why is the show demanding we get invested in his drama after insisting that we shouldn't get invested in anything?

It's almost like R&M pandered so hard to Reddit scum that it wrecked what it was actually trying to accomplish.

>>92002439
That's not arrogance to state a fact.

>>92002445
What if I make it with magic?

>>92002512
vancian magic, or like, a genie?

>>92002512
Depends on how the magic works. If it's got a logical means to it, then it's just a form of science that is above the understanding of others.

>>92002445
>>92002512
>>92002522
>>92002525
>sometimes science is more art than science
obviously the only way to kill rick is by bashing his brains in with the mona lisa.

>>92002459
>Except, if "nothing matters" as this show constantly reminds us, then why should we care if Rick is a good person? Why should we care if he lives or dies? Why is the show demanding we get invested in his drama after insisting that we shouldn't get invested in anything?

the writers try to make Rick a hypocrite to make him seem deeper as a character, something about how "you can't get away from your feelings even if you know the right answer is to kill yourself or not care about anything because everything turns to shit"

>>91973152
If adventures didn't end in sexy outfits, I'd be disappointed.

>>91977666
>too intelligent to use basic grammar

>>91971250
>Kapow
Isn't that usually the sound of someone punching something?

>>92002595
Boogeymanfags are not clever people.

>>91982835
Thats if the Russian knew about Ozy's plans with Psychic powers

>>92002533
>the only way to kill rick is by bashing his brains in with the mona lisa.
yes, that would be acceptable

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>>92002680
That would be one priceless death scene.

>>91991652
Looks like Elric of Melniboné
No idea which issue though.