A LITERAL DEUS EX

It doesn't matter who she was before she put on the mask.

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>>91968339
you are trying way to hard

I'm confused, why did you think either the priestess or the horseman need more development? Pretty clear what they're contribution is

>>91968339
You know, it's funny when people complain about unresolved plot points when that shit happened on an episodic basis in the original show.

Isn't it sort of established in Samurai Jack that the elder spirits help Jack when he's in need?

It was a matter of finding himself again, removing the evil within him and reforming the peace inside.

>like the horse samurai guy

are you literally so dumb that when a show talks about suicide constantly while showing to a dark figure on a horse and playing discordant music you wonder "who is that?"

did you go to school? have you read any books?

>>91968414
being a waste of time?

What do you mean a deus ex? Anyone who saw the birth of evil could see this coming from a mile away.

>>91968435
>are you literally so dumb that when a show talks about suicide constantly while showing to a dark figure on a horse and playing discordant music you wonder "who is that?"
In all fairness until the episode where he took Jack to seppuku it wasn't exactly clear what his thing was. He left a pretty vague "IT IS TIME"

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>>91968377
IF I THROW AN ARROW THROUGH YOUR TORSO WOULD YOU DIE?

>>91968423
only it's trying to be something bigger than an episodic kids show and it can't keep making this rookie mistakes

>>91968339
>we'll never know who the priestess was
She was Ashi's mother and the leader of an Aku Cult, what's more to know?

calling it now
demongo controls evil mom now

The spirits helping Jack and jack's father is pretty well established. I don't see why you are surprised.

>>91968435
everyone figured out what he was the episode before he was confronted, the problem is that it was built up so much ever since ep1 and just blew its load in a bogstandard fight scene

>>91968509
>it's trying to be something bigger than an episodic kids show
that's just your interpretation of events

>>91968513
who got to smash

because seriously, fuck that guy

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>>91968339
your thread was deleted already
this guy must be ban evading, he posts this thread every hour

>>91968609
Nah, I'm not this OP.

My thread was complaining about complainers but unfortunately anons (and the mod) seem to have misunderstood my intentions.

>>91968414
Because folks got autistic about "muh deeper meaning n shiet!", when really the Horseguy was just Japanese Death, and the identity of the Priestess is probably just an unknown, just a masked evil that's meant to be Ashi's inner demons, though a bit more physical.

Also the underlying problem we've been kinda seeing since Episode 5, that Gennedy remembered "Oh shit I have 10 episodes to finish the whole show while all the grown up fans watch with anticipation!" So most of the slower gradual development probably got thrown out so we can focus on Jack going from sad depressed Biker dude, into the Jack we all know and recognize.

After tonight we now have one final episode to go before the two-parter finale that's going to end Samurai Jack as best as Gennedy can.

>>91968339
>we'll never know who the priestess was because she fell off a cliff.
Grey was in the recording booth with Phil and Tara for the finale session. Either the Priestess or a sister is coming back.

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>>91968485
It would be extremely painful

>>91968562
Man I barely even watched Samurai Jack and I knew this.
Maybe that's OP's problem? He never watched the original. I suppose if that's the case then the whole spiritual and spirits and seppuku shit can be confusing, or at least, unexpected

Ashi's mother was pretty shit tier fighter

I mean, I know her focus was on Jack but she couldn't even sense an arrow coming. Hell, she could barely fight off her own pupil. What a dumb cunt. That single arrow killed her too.

>>91968339
>we'll never know who the priestess was

Was anyone legitimately curious? Unless it was someone Jack fought before, it doesn't really matter. And even if it was, who cares? The only thing the Priestess needed to be was a crazy cultist who popped out seven babies to kill Jack.

>>91968727
Im pretty sure it was the fall.

>>91968672
It's kind of funny you mention the "oh shit 10 episodes" because honestly watching the last one I was hoping for more advances to the plot.
We're 7 episodes in and only now is he really beginning his quest. Aku's barely been in the Season

>>91968339
>implying the priestess won't be back

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>>91968339
>we'll never know who the priestess was

It's the only logical step. Also Grey was recording for the last episode so she might be in it.

>>91968727
Well, unlike her daughters, I doubt she went through the intense training meant to kill Jack, which is why she had the daughters to begin with

>>91968789
She might considering how stupid this show is when it comes to people dying.

How Ashi and Jack survived that big ass fall but everyone else died.

>>91968794
She's just gonna look like an older Ashi.

>>91968770
She looked dead in the air as soon as it hit desu. I thought it might have struck her heart or something?
>>91968811
Still shit tier, I mean, she did set out to kill Jack. If she was hoping to fight him he wouldn't even break a sweat. Dumb cunt.

>>91968794
Could just be a flashback really

>>91968822
jack is the god's favorite and ashi fell with her chainwhip/was concious while falling

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>>91968581
do you even know what episodic means?

>>91968860
pretty sure her plan was for the army to get him tired then finish the job

The amount of people saying "muh why no info on priestess and why bad ending for horseman" makes me really afraid for when this series ends and Demongo never makes another appearance since these retards post a million times a day about how they think he's going to come back.

>>91968785
He has three episodes for Jack and Ashi to meet the big rebel army, storm Aku's castle, have the big final showdown with Aku, Have Jack (probably) return to the past, and on top of ALL OF THAT, have a epilogue to the WHOLE thing. All in three weeks.

That's a tall order to fill up.

>>91968917
That army was terrible.
There's no way someone who spent 20 years training 7 girls for one purpose was actually relying on them to get anything done lel

>>91968926
I kinda blame Gennedy for having the first four episodes be kinda slow in development, because it kinda set the precedent that we were going to see something happen slowly or something.

Like I said, Episode 5 was when Gennedy went "Oh shit I should probably go somewhere with all of this since I'm halfway through my final season!".

>>91968930
>Have Jack (probably) return to the past
Honestly I don't think that's happening. Genndy said the ending would be bittersweet and not everyone would like it and I could see Jack accepting that he can't go back happening.

>>91968993
Yeah he did say that every episode would have "a new reveal" and really so far that isn't true at all. One cool thing has happened in each episode, but not many "reveals".

>>91968990
They were probably there to distract Ashi, not attack Jack.

>>91968930
>have an epilogue to the WHOLE thing.
is this really necessary or even important? i ask because we have seen how style is prioritized over plot in past seasons. an ending where things finish just at the very last second wouldn't surprise me, i know there is a narrative term for that kind of thing but it escapes me now

>>91969005
Hence why I said "probably". There's nothing to really say anything at this point. I'm just along for the ride to see how the whole thing ends.

And if Jack and Ashi fug

>>91969061
Well...yeah. You can't just have Jack stare out and go "I guess I'm not going back to the past, but at least Aku is dead right" as he winks to the camera. After years of waiting for the final season, fans are going to WANT some kind of epilogue.

the big problem is that the gods give Jack his sword, he just accepts that he got mad 50 years ago.

and that whole "the sword left me" is bullshit. the sword got knocked over a hole. it didn't dissapear into thin air or floated away to go back to the gods. Jack and Ashi should've found the sword in the bottom of the hole.

I don't care what the meaning is, it's still an asspull.

>>91969034
Did she know Ashi was with Jack?
I remember the hallucinations Ashi had, but thought they were just that honestly

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>LOOKS LIKE SQUIRREL IS BACK ON THE MENU

how do orcs know what a menu is?

>>91969167
>it didn't dissapear into thin air
But it did.

>not a callback to that ashi scene in the first episode with the gods asking jack "ARE YOU WORTHY" three times

>>91969187
Well if the sister's ash suit really was magic then I assume the priestess has access to all kinds and was able to track at least Ashi through it. She spent over twenty years training those girls, I doubt she'd just let them go without having some way of knowing what the fuck happened to them.

>no hash

weak

>>91969127
Gets back to the past. Kills Aku. Dies in the battle. Last words are him introducing himself as he bleeds out.
"They call me Jack"


But nobody understands, because he says it in English, like a fucking goober.

>>91969215
Ask Tolkien.

>>91968688
YOU'RE A BIG-BOOTIED BITCH

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>"and so, I wasn't able to find it again"
more like he didn't look.

does anyone else get the impression that Jack just got up and walked away? thinking to himself "i'm not going down there".

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>>91969249
True enough
Honestly though if she did know her speech for trying to get Ashi back to her side was really weak.

Something about the way she delivered the
>I KNEW you'd fail us
Gave me the impression she didn't know, but just had a feeling.

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>>91969334
For you

>>91969351
Yeah, pretty much. He just figured "what's the point" there. Since he can't go back and save his parents any more, why bother?

>>91969351
Nah, that would be supremely stupid.
It's not like it's hard for him to go down, befriending animals is something that was common to him

>>91969351
>does anyone else get the impression that Jack just got up and walked away? thinking to himself "i'm not going down there".

no

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>>91968727

>>91969351
Well obviously. He didn't know Mr. Ez-Elevator the Parakeet of Convenient Retrieval back then.

>>91969393
He's also been shown to effortlessly jump down long distances without any trouble, he could probably just hop down the ledges

>>91969071
And if Jack and Ashi fug
I can tell you right now that's not going to happen

>>91969351
What do you expect him to do, climb down a massive hole with no supplies?

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>>91968339
>got hit with 1 (one) arrow
>we didn't see the body
>she has claws that can cut into stone

Not hard to connect the dots.

>>91969351
Nah, especially that chasm didnt look lije something Jack couldnt get inside.

tell me something, wouldn't have Jack been able to emditate somewhere else to have the gods give him back his sword? why the hell did he have to wait 50 years and develop suicidal thoughts to finally decide to do something about his lost sword?

>>91969386
>He just figured "what's the point" there.
>implying you'd take your mortal enemies word at face value immediately

>"Hey I destroyed all the Portals nigga"
>oh shit better kill myself
It was probably somewhere in those 50 years where it dawned on him it was true

They fucked up by ordering only 10 episodes.

They fucked up by bringing Ashi into it IF, IF, they were only going to do 10 episodes. I don't hate Ashi, or her arc, but they can't do it right, and haven't, in 10 episodes, and her story taking up this much time is making two stories worse, not one story better.

Ashi doesn't act like someone that grew up in a cave. She was redeemed too quickly. She became 'waifu masturabation' material instantly.

Jack has demons, which was properly set up, but not properly explored, and not properly resolved. It's all happening to quickly.

>>91969446
so he has to wait 50 years and meet some useless chick to finally get off his ass to do it?

>>91969167
What did you expect?

He's wandering in the dark and suddenly
>oh look, I found it

That would be even more lame than what actually happened

>>91969485
blame demarco

>>91969476
>wouldn't have Jack been able to emditate somewhere else to have the gods give him back his sword?
Well they went back to the chasm to see if it was still at the bottom of it.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fuM3p7HiHm4

looks like next ep will be some alien reference

>>91969476
Seeing Ashi turn from evil to good probably rekindled a tiny spark of faith in good's ability to overcome evil.

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>>91969485
>Ashi doesn't act like someone that grew up in a cave
Anon do you have experience with this because I don't know what you mean

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>>91969536
she is sickeningly cute.

even if the story put me to sleep.

>>91969476
No portal
No hope
No balance
Want to Sudoku
Bounty Hunters behind my ass.

Ashi sort of felt useless that episode
Yeah she fought guys off while Jack meditated but I mean, is that really worthy of a new protagonist you've wrote into the show.
I feel like she sort of needs to justify her existence in a way, sort of like a "what's even the point of you? What are you going to add?"

I don't hate Ashi though. I also get that she was the one to restore hope to Jack, but that could also have been wrote in a different way with a character who wouldn't then go on to be partners with Jack

>>91969536
You don't need firsthand experience to understand that a shut in with a supremely fucked up childhood suddenly can't do a complete 180 and turn into paragon waifu material

It takes years, decades to reverse childhood trauma and most of the time people never overcome it for their entire lives

>>91969510
what else would have happened? the sword just felt into the hole. where else could it have gone? the "sword left me" explanation is weak as hell, just to have Jack meet the gods for no reason other than "parallels with his father".

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>>91969582
I cried.

>>91969534
what the hell are they doing now? a fucking filler episode?

>>91969607
Someone took the sword and there were clues left behind to indicate it

Or maybe a hermit living at the bottom of the hole took it and now Jack has to either fight him or do some mystical spirit world shit to get it back

>>91969582
>put me to sleep
I thought it was great. You must have just found it so /comfy/ you lulled off to sleep. That's what I'm going with because I'll have to call you a faggot if you're criticising SotS, and we don't want that do we

>>91969601
It was foreshadowed in the first episode that she was different. Ashi may still be getting over childhood trauma but that still doesn't mean she can't get rid of indoctrination from her childhood.

>>91969601
I was under the impression that Jack actually spent a good deal of time showing her the horrors of Aku, but i kinda agree that due to the 10 episode limit they had to rush things a bit too much.

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>>91969601
You also don't need firsthand experience to understand that that kind of realism is entirely optional in a 10-episode cartoon story arc about a time traveling samurai battling millions of robots and a hyperdemonic shape shifting overlord with laser eyes.

Was that other aspect of Jack actually Mad Jack from the first season? If he was, that'd be pretty neat, festering inside him for all that time.

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>>91968339
>we'll never know who the priestess was because she fell off a cliff. so like the horse samurai guy she's another disappointment.

Eh, I think she'll be back.

>>91969711
>it's just a cartoon bro

fuck you

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>>91968339
Having Jack reset to his previous look feels weird with everything that he's gone through. I kinda was hoping for a hybrid of past and new Jack ('balanced'), with bun back up and/or trimmed beard with new clothes.

Minor, but that was my only beef.

I definitely think she'll be back. There's no way her death would be that anti-climactic...right?

>>91969167
You do realize it's a magical sword right ? It can't harm the innocent and such. Aku even tried to use it to kill jack and it didn't leave a scratch on him, it's not a run of the mill samurai sword

>>91969715
Mad Jack was merely his "dark" side. Ghost Jack was pretty much just his disappointment, guilt, and anger.

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>>91968339
I'm just salty that they just had her one punch man everything; If they had her do what Jack did when he was protecting the dog people using tactics, chipping down the army and taking hits, until he finally brutally cuts down the remainents, THEN I would have been completely fine with her taking down the Army by herself.

But not even taking a single hit, come on Gendy!

Also I wish Jack kept the beard so he would still be pic related

>>91968339
no body
she might be ready to ruin everyone's fun later.

>>91969692
It isn't just about indoctrination. I don't care how much of a special snowflake she was, you don't go from trained from birth cold-blooded assassin to flower girl waifu in what seemed like less than a week.

>>91968339
>People are accepting this

I bet they cried for never seeing slade unmasked, though.

>>91969755
>It can't harm the innocent and such

Clearly it can, but there are consequences for it.

Evil people can't use it to hurt the innocent, though.

>Ashi literally killing an entire army with her bare hands
>Priestess out of nowhere
>Ashi kills her too
>Jack just says "lol, no" to his evil self and he gets his sword back

Okay. I can forgive all this. But there is one offense that makes this episode irredeemable and that is Jack losing the beard.

>>91969722
for what? in hindsight she wasn't that important, but even knowing who she was would have made an impact on her character. now she's dead.

but hey, Ashi survived a drop from a blimp flying atop mountains and managed to land safely. so she might just return, just to waste more screentime.

>>91969446
50 years is a long time to take to get back there.

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>>91968339
wow SMTV is looking like shit

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>>91969728
Thank you for that poignant counter-argument.

>>91969450
So why didn't the sisters who fell of the cliff live?

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>>91969601
>suddenly can't do a complete 180
It's not sudden though and it's not a complete 180.

Her entire life was her thinking Jack was the bad guy and Aku was a top Lad. Her life was KILL JACK BRING BACK GOOD. Then through time, she realised Jack wasn't so bad and she didn't 180, she just became KILL AKU BRING BACK GOOD.
It's not like she ever felt she was a villain or in the wrong. All her life she felt she was doing good, but she wasn't, and only now is she actually doing good.

I do get your point about the paragon stuff, I can agree there it's not been best handled but they do constantly drop hints that Ashi was "different", sort of hinting it was already within her character.
Of course, that doesn't really fit someone to be different with 25 years of indoctrination, things like her caring about Ladybugs would have been beaten out of her. I don't really buy that her entire life she spent with those doubts because really, it's not like she had much place to build those doubts when she was literally being life controlled and knew nothing else.
But that's a different point. The fact is they do hint Ashi was different and her character is seen as somehow having all that paragon stuff even when she was with Priestess. That's how they've wrote her

>>91969803
It kills evil , in the moment it struck the goats they were pumped full of evil and it purified their corpses to bring them back to normal . Same shit happen with the tower portal. It got destroyed by the sword and the sword broke the curse

>>91969824
>but even knowing who she was would have made an impact on her character
who the hell could she be that it would be a big deal besides maybe being a chick jack slept with twenty years ago in a drunken stupor?

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>>91969601
>It takes years, decades to reverse childhood trauma and most of the time people never overcome it for their entire lives

No shit Sherlock. We only have 10 episodes, not arcs for each individual character. Don't like it then you should have dropped Samurai Jack episode fucking one if you didn't Ashi was going to be an important character who was very likely to turn good by the end of the season

>>91969774
Ashi taking the army was bullshit desu
I was really disappointed. They didn't even try with the fight scene she literally just ran into them and somehow that works. I know it's a cartoon but when it takes itself so seriously in other aspects it looks immensely stupid.

>>91969841
they might have

>>91969828
how do you know it was a whole 50 years?
some time passed between jack getting to the future and aku destroying the last portal

also he suspected it wouldn't be there anyway
also maybe he didn't know about the burd until recently

>>91969601
Some people are just smarter and better than you are. I know it's tough to accept in this "everybody is a winner" modern society but honestly some people can overcome adversity without much problem and some people just suck and end up a depressed nobody even though they had a perfect childhood. I know some people from bad homes that turned out into great, strong people, and you would never even suspect they were from a bad situation unless they told you.

>>91969885
>how do you know it was a whole 50 years?
literally in the opening.

>>91969441
how can you be so sure? and before you say "it can't be well done in 3 episodes left" keep in mind how -understandably- rushed things have been lately

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>>91969601
Bigger issue is the narrative. How does she understand the concepts of good and evil? Kids don't understand morals all that well and are very opportunistic, what they see in their youth impressions on them.
For 15+ years you are exposed to the idea that your whole life is to kill one man. Morality is rather a moot point.
I mean hell how would she know what she saw was "evil" her whole life was basically Aku's empire structure.

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>>91968339

Uh we found out who both of them were anon did you even watch the episodes

I think this episode is good because it establishes the exact moment jack loses hope. He couldn't save the goats, the last portal is destroyed AND he loses his sword. It's not difficult to understand anons cmon

>>91969005
It could just as easily be that Jack goes back to the past, fixes everything, and none of his adventures or the people he met ever happened / existed.

>>91968339

So am I the only one who had Initial D playing through my head as Ashi pushed off all those soldiers from the mountain?

So am I the only one who just felt like this whole episode was really lazy? You know I have no objection to Ashi fighting an army, if it's done well, and I have no objection to Jack going on a vision quest to find himself so he can find the sword cause the sword is mystic bullshit like that so a mystic bullshit answer does the trick. I have no objection to Jack facing his demons. I have no objection to the gods helping jack. I object to lazy fight scenes like Ashi pushing half an army down like she was a bowling ball going through pins. I object to the demons going bye bye in like point two three seconds. I object to how lame the vision quest was. I object to the gods just throwing him a bone and now all his problems are solved. Guidance sure, send him on a quest or something, but just "lol here's some new digs and a sword mate" don't sit right with me. It just all seemed like a lazy way to do things that could have been good. I actually liked the season up till now, but I don't know about this episode. It really really irritated me.

>>91969951
There's simply no indication of it like at all. They would have to show something in episode 8 or otherwise it comes off even more forced, though to be fair there has been no indication of flirting at all.

>>91969005
>>91969979
My money is on Aku wins.
Like this whole thing has just been one big gag on his part.

>>91969601
>Dude. It's like totally unrealistic!

Name 1 cartoon that had a character with childhood trauma who overcame it in a timely manner. I'll be waiting.

Are all these threads being made by millennials who never even watched the original series? Like shit, I know the show started before most of you were born, but it is hardly a disappointment.

>>91969975
exactly, he LOSES his sword, it doesn't abandon him.

he could've just found it in the bottom of the hole.

We haven't seen her body

>>91969377
THREADLY REMINDER
SHE'S NAKED

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>>91969959
This is what bothered me more. You are told to kill a man since birth, everything you went though, all that punishment and pain, was to kill one man, you are told your value is based on his death, yet some how you gain the conscience that follows Jack's morality? How?

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I liked it, but its sort of generic remastering himself for umpteenth time. We get it, Jack is super disciplined, how about a rematch with Blue?

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Just here to leave this image
Also, Jesus Christ the hype
I want it to be Saturday again goddamn

>>91969975
Not only that but I think a lot of anons are intentionally ignoring some narrative. Jack is already losing hope that any more portals exist , and not only that but it's hit rage that kills the goats, he doesn't look for any option to save them, he goes for a killing blow each time , because in that moment he loses himself . Then it all comes back full circle with Jack realizing why he couldn't find his sword , it was because of his rage and frustrations , and learns to balance himself. It's a pretty ok episode t b h, id give it a 8/10

It's not just that it only got 10 episodes. That's only part of the problem. The real issue is that it was initially supposed to be a movie. You can see the movie pacing all over the place.

It'd be nice if they'd have been able to make a full series out of it, but an actual ending is good enough. I'd still love to see "The Adventures of Jack and Ashi" for more than like one episode.

>>91970027
Name another cartoon character who was raised for the sole purpose of murder and suddenly became good within 2 episodes.

Yeah faggot, if you're going to bind me by retarded restrictions then answer me this.

>>91970072
By traveling around the world finding said man actually had a major impact on the world and going "oh shit"?

>TFW mega or download where please?

>Her mom personally went

Honestly it should've been the massive thick one

She would've gotten the job done

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>>91970132
>Name another cartoon character who was raised for the sole purpose of murder and suddenly became good within 2 episodes.

Closest I could find. But more than anything you can find that's for sure.

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>>91970034
>Has ghosts , aliens , ancient evil incarnation, Celtic magic
>Nah but magical sword made for the chosen ones that are used to smite evil that was created by actual God's can't just go poof Anon that's silly.

>>91968339
Why do these asshole gods just sit around and do nothing while Aku runs amok on Earth? Didn't their incompetence allow Aku to take root in the first place?

>>91969901
>dude you're just weak lmao be headstrong like I am durr

Do you personally know anybody who was trained from birth to kill people and how they learned to cope with it?

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>>91970027
Hey Arnold.

trauma/grievance over his parent's disappearance. several episodes deal with the theme of Arnold's parents. the episode "The Journal" narrated their lives, Arnold's birth and the reason they left, it set up the map to their destination and in the upcoming movie, Arnold will find closure or even meet his parents if they're still alive.

that's how you write a character with believable issues.

>>91970198
Luckily I know that character comes from a shitty anime with shitty writing so your point is moot.

>>91970231
Direct interference by gods has always been something they tended not to do , at least any that weren't Greek, which actively fucked with mortals for giggles

>>91970199
so when are we supposed to take the rules of the Samurai Jack plot seriously?

>>91969743
my rage for tumblr knows no limit

>>91969796
she's still cold blooded as fuck, did you not see her kill thousands of sentient beings this episode.

>>91970272
Still waiting.

>>91970231

I just assumed they were still fighting the chaos Aku broke off of, and couldn't leave the battlefront there to take care of a little piece of it.

>>91970298
It's a cartoon dude...

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>>91970027
Teen Titans- Raven- took 4 seasons with one focused on just that
Spider-man TAS- Mary Jane both in origin and throughout the series
Aladdin Cartoon- Aladdin's origin story and actual struggles he still had with it during the episode
Possibly TaleSpin with Cloudkicker because while he he trust Baloo he sure is hell still very distrustful of most other people of the series being raised by opportunistic pirates

You need to watch more cartoons anon.

>>91970322

>>91970261
>>91970332

>>91970288
>at least any that weren't Greek, which actively fucked with mortals for giggles

Literally in some cases. Especially if the god was Zeus.

>>91970329
that's the excuse Jackfags always use.

>>91970240
I'm not saying "be headstrong like me". I'm saying "headstrong people exist". Are you going to say that there has never existed a person with a bad childhood who didn't go on to succeed?

I don't know any child soldiers personally, no, but there are examples of child soldiers who grew up to be well adjusted adults and write books and stuff

>>91970138
"oh shit" what? To here that was her life.
>"see these people being beaten?"
>"Yeah I do, that was my 10 birthday. You know when that stops? When I kill you."

She was given no measure of what good and evil is in her upbringing.

>>91970349
So you want entire seasons worth of character development in 10 episodes?

Has no one fucken realized the hidden mean of this episode? Jack is a [Capricorn]

>>91970350
Speaking of God's I recognize Odin and Horus, who was the blue nigga? Shiva?

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>>91969351
I once lost my housekeys at school. Then I found them on the bottom of a empty big trashcan.

My 11-year old stupid mind thought "I am late for classes, so I'll pick it up after that".

I came after recess, and the trashcan was full to the brim.

The Tea is Terrible

>>91970288
But they were fighting the black evil cloud creature thing that Aku was born from

At what point do you get to say its direct or indirect interference? I mean, they forged the fuckin sword and told Jack's dad to kill Aku

>>91970394

An Indian deity. Not sure which. Could be Shiva, but I though Shiva was a chick.

>>91970383
No, I want good writing for fuck's sake

>>91970403
Did you recover the keys, anon?

>>91970383
Or I rather them make a good story that fits a 10 episode narrative. Making a ham fisted rush story that you controlled on day 1 isn't the sign of a good story teller.

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>>91970383
>gets his ass beat at a stupid question he ask
>moves the goal post so far that in falls in the ocean
Also anon it's telling that you are just a wifu fag because you are saying you still want her awful story rather than a good story.

>>91969996

They're all fine ideas in and of themselves the pacing was just off. This could've easily been two episodes, one to have Ashi defend the mountain and have Jack going through his various visions with the second focusing on the priestess and Ashi's fight and Jack actually overcoming his inner demons.

It all just happened so damn fast, like the span of 10 minutes Aishi defeats an army and her Mother while Jack confronts and overcomes his anger and gets his sword back. Literally bang bang bang one right after the other. And this is after an opening that wasn't really that engrossing ("How'd I lose my sword? Well, this one time I fought some baby goats and dropped the sword and it fell down a hole and I sure as hell didn't feel like climbing...")

The last few episodes have just run into some pacing issues. They all kind of meander through a basic adventure (escape a monster, prove Aku is evil, find Jack, find the sword) and in the last few minutes realizing not much has been accomplished towards the overall plot throw in a major character/story plot point (Ashi not wanting to kill Jack, Jack succumbing to hopelessness, Jack regaining hope, Jack finding his sword) before setting up the next episode and it just isn't grooving well. I think they would've done well to combine Ashi trusting Jack and proving Aku is evil as one larger adventure. Jack losing hope should've been the major focus of that episode instead of callbacks to the original show. Like I said earlier this episode could've easily been two. I think the next episode will suffer the same pacing issues and then with only two episodes left that obviously have to focus on Aku Genndy will get back in the swing of things like how the first two episodes were. This middle section has just had a lot of story beats to juggle and they aren't using their time effectively enough.

>>91970412
I get the impression that the thing they fought isn't aku but some cosmic evil only they could deal with , aku is just something that plopped out of it. Like a really strong monster . He can be killed by the humans so it's best they deal with it, hell they could still be fighting the cloud for all we know and can't be bothered to divide their attention . Other alien races exist too so I can imagine they all might have cloud baby demons to deal with

>>91970475
What's a wifu?

>>91970170
An anon showed me kindness and gave me this so I offer the same kindness to you
https://mega.nz/#!dmonEZzY!LUdElLnMPuLuAcSyt6lIPxcS77UizAU0uaTS_hrThlo

Thank him not me

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>>91970423
Final Fantasy Shiva is a chick, actual Hindu Shiva is a dude.

>>91969351
>suicide first
>THEN we look for the sword

>>91970439
No, because they were at the bottom.

As I told my mother the whole story you could see her face going "you stupid piece of shit"

>you lost your keys!?
>yes, but I found them in the trash
>oh, so you have them back
>no, the trashcan was full
>?? but you said you found them in the trash
>yes, when the can was empty
>Then why didnÄt you pick them up in the first place?
>.....................

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>>91970383
Hey now that wasn't the question ask. You challenge that TV/Cartoons didn't have even a single character with childhood trauma who overcame it in a timely manner. We have shown at least what? 6? And I'm sure there are more.

also to answer your question season one of Moral Oral, Rick and Morty, and Boondocks, did all of that with 12 or less episodes so go fuck a cactus ya dumbass

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>>91968339
>Literal Deus Ex

never asked for this, huh?

>>91970562

huh

>>91970486

He climbed down. He just couldn't find it. Just like when he flew down and couldn't find it. When he found it he didn't even go down the hole.

Odin, Horus and Shiva are bros in the jack Canon , what do you think they talk about ?

>>91970600

So your telling me you didn't go digging and your mother didn't have the balls to make you? Shit man you're a bitch. It's a little trash, you can wash up after.

>>91968727
>>91968811
>>91968860
>She didn't train as hard as her daughters and not from birth
>would likely be past her prime
>Probably would still be reeling from health complications from a septuplet pregnancy and labor.

>>91970603
>Moral Oral, Rick and Morty, and Boondocks

Too bad none of those moments were memorable.

>>91969215
Its the future

>>91968339
Why is Odin wieldig a trident?

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>>91970721
kid, the goal post is already sinking in the ocean, you have job to opinions now as your defense even if this is bait this is fucking sad.

>>91970780
Odin's spear Gungnir is often depicted in popular culture as sort of trident looking for some reason, even though in legends it's just a spear.

Anyway it's not just Jack, it's a trident in some other stuff too

>>91969187
>>91969249
>>91969370
All of this combined with the fact that she somehow knew that Jack killed the rest of her daughters.

It's definitely implied that she's been watching Ashi...

>>91970862
Not kidding. Not one was memorable. But by all means explain why those moments in Moral Oral, Rick and Morty, and Boondocks should be memorable.

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>>91968434
It's an external resolution, a wipe back to 0. Jack didn't deal with his frustration and rage, it was just Buddha Beam'd away. Why even have depressed Jack if he will learn nothing thanks to literal divine intervention?

On a personal note, The yin yang isn't just a white circle.

Why does everyone just...Assume the priestess is dead?

Are you lot really going to be surprised if she shows up in the last few episodes?

>>91970425
then Samurai Jack season 5 has you cover, is almost perfect so far.

>>91970946
looking at the responses it's clear OP just wants (You)s for his thread to last.

>>91970929
>Why even have depressed Jack if he will learn nothing thanks to literal divine intervention?
The point was that he did learn something and overcame his depression

>>91970946
Those very same people are mad at Ashi being a main character this season despite it being obvious that she was going to be with the storyboard leaks and the first episode. So what do they know about what's going to happen next?

>>91970946
what's the point of having an arrow go through her and falling off a cliff if she's not going to die from that?
where's the consequences?

>>91971022
To temporarily get her off screen and have Jack and Ashi finish up?

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>>91970998
I already know they're going to be autistically screeching about "BUT THE ARROW PIERCED HER! SHE WOULDN'T HAVE LIVED THROUGH THAT IRL REEEEEEEEE" come the last few episodes when she pops up again.

>>91970946
Because last time someone was thrown off a cliff everyone assumed they were dead too

>>91971022
Because "villian falls off cliff only to come back later" trope is so overused they had to also hit her with an arrow to mix in some uncertainty

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I have to be honest, I think it's the weakest episode of the season and pretty disappointing. I wish they'd been given a full season to really finish this, but whatever.

>>91970929
>divine intervention

is Genndy trying to convert us?

>>91971049
Why have her on-screen this episode in the first place? Ashi already defeated an army and it was unnecessary and out of place for her mother to be there. It felt rushed.

Anyone got the new episode MEGA?

>>91970562

Hindu Shiva is genderless, historically portrayed as androgynous/displaying both male and female characteristics. Progressively those portrayals have become more defined in one gender with more popular ones seen today being female

>>91971100
Nah, episode 4 was weakest. It really didn't have much going for it other than some pretty scenery which is default on all episodes.

This one had
>high quality animation on the flashback
>classic Aku antics
>kino moment during the boat ride
>decent action scenes

>>91971137
Ctrl + F MEGA

>>91971137
Ctrl+F

>>91971159
Any decent action scenes were sort of cancelled out by lmao run at entire army

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Pretty disappointed with how they handled suduko jack getting banished desu

They lined up a perfect moment that could have been like pic related but it fell absolutely flat

>>91970132
>Name another cartoon character who was raised for the sole purpose of murder and suddenly became good within 2 episodes.
Kovu, though he's from a movie, not a show
Arguably 17 and 18 from Dragonball, where while it wasn't "2 Episodes" if you cut out all the Weeabu Fightan Magic, and powering up bullshit, it's effectively 2 episodes of content in which they make their turn.

Oh an also the granddaddy of all instant ramen flavoured heel-face turns right out the gates of precision engineered weapon of doom:
Smurfette

I prefered when Horus just stared in silence.

>>91969840
You didn't post an argument at all. Being a cartoon and being a shit cartoon are two different things.

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>>91971159

4 had rape-crab.

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>>91969446
>>91969393
>>91969351
>>91969411


HAVE WE ALL FORGOTEEN THAT JAKC LEARNED HOW TO "JUMP GOOD"?!

EVEN WHEN HE WAS TRAPPED INSIDE THAT MONSTERS STOMACH HE SHOULD HAVE EASILY BEEN ABLE TO JUMP OUT FROM THAT HEIGHT!

Can you autistic fucks just shut the fuck up and be grateful we're getting a conclusion to this amazinf show.

>>91970520
>I thank that anon and you anon anyway.
>THANKS AGAIN!

>>91971405
no. this ain't a hivemind. several anons don't actually watch cartoons just for waifubait and porn.

if the set up to the finale it's crap, then it's crap. regardless of how amazing the show is.

>>91970072
Mate I know you wont like it, but it really is "Its a 10 episode series" we cant have the seasons and seasons of Jack leaving her to go her own way, having her see the world and its ups and downs, conflicting with her upbringing, re-confronting Jack, questioning everything, doubling down and what she was taught as a child, re-exploring the world, etc etc etc etc.

Season 5 of SJ is best taken as an age-old tale. A tale in the style of the great ancient poems set up to tell this story. Jacks never been a complicated character, and the shows never had complicated characters. Its all in service of the world around it and, again, its story.

Point is, bitch had to be good before the story could end, so they made her figure her shit out within one KINO episode. I still think shes the weakest part of this season, but it bothers me a lot less when i think of these episodes as a complete package that ill marathon from time to time.

>>91971405
Holy shit people are discussing cartoons on /co/?
STOP!
You're supposed to only like it and wank over each other

I am looking for the live-reaction thread. Didn't find it in the archive. Where is it?

>>91968513
Or maybe just another character like they've been doing already. Maybe a flashback

>>91968339
>gods gave a magic sword to Jack's father after he showed his determination and his pure intentions
>same gods give the sword back to Jack after he showed his determination and pure intention
So, what's the issue, there.

>>91971495
>>91971465
see
>>91971387

>>91971495
I hope you all kys after being inevitably disappointed in the finale while i sit back contented.

>>91971505
https://boards.4tan.org/co/thread/91959033

>>91968339
>MAH HEADCANON
>MAH DEEPEST LORE
did you even watcht he original show? she's a self contained character in htis self contained episode/arc, just like 95% of every other character in this series. we never got backstory for any of the oh so amazing characters everyone's supposedly now disappointed to see too. get the fuck over it. your bullshit ideas never happened what did u honestly expect, cause everything thus far is exactly as i figured/hoped.

>>91968513
Sorry, wrong anon.

>>91971524
Meant for you >>91968673

>>91968339
Fuck this autistic thread

All of you

>>91971525
Jack lost his sword like a dumbass and the gods just gave it back to him.

there was no struggle to get it back, nothing to resolve 50 years of not looking for his sword.

the gods literally gave him what he needed. that's what a deus ex is.

>well this character didn't leave a corpse behind and fell off a cliff, something only two characters have survived this season; she's definitely dead

>>91971544
No, actually, I quite like Jack.
But you're the faggots crying everyone doesn't share your opinion and come into threads discussing the show telling everyone to stop.
It's /co/, what do you expect?
>>91971529
If you think there isn't discussion ITT you've not bothered reading the thread.

Look, I understand shitposting can be annoying, I get there's a lot of shitflinging too, but /co/ is for cartoon discussion. Some people don't like things that others do, get used to it.

>>91968467
"Deus ex" means, literally, "from God".

>>91971569
The gods took the sword away in the first place, you astronomically dense individual, because (a) he gave into anger and despair, and (b) he had never earned it in the first place.

>>91971549
Thanks.
It is still archived, actually
>>91959033
Why it didn't appear in the archive list itself, I don't know why.

The only legitimate complaints could be about the pacing and personal animation preferences, like Jack's eys.

>>91971599
when did the gods take the sword away from him? or are you just assuming they did?

>>91971627
>when did the gods take the sword away from him?
this is bait right

people can't actually be this dense can they

>>91971627
Jack said it himself when he realized he had given in to his anger and became too impure to weild the sword.

>>91971623
>animation errors
that's not a valid complaint, glaring flaws in a narrative are.

>>91971569
>Jack lost his sword like a dumbass
No. The sword left JAck after he gave up to anger and despair
>and the gods just gave it back to him.
No, he got it back once he was able to get peace in his heart again.

It's like you didn't watch the episode.

>the gods literally gave him what he needed. that's what a deus ex is.
Established characters who created the sword had a play in retrieving the lost sword. this is narratively coherent.

>>91968467
>>91968562
There was actual godly intervention, so it's a literal deus ex machina even though it makes sense and was setup
Instead of a figurative deus ex machina where something just happens out of nowhere, as if by godly intervention.

>>91969841
they were weak, unlike Ashi who was the strongest

>>91968930
What if he gets a one hour Finale?

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>>91971646
>>91971644
>>91971657
>The sword left Jack after he gave up to anger and despair
when was that? after HE dropped it at the shock of the dead goats?
or after one of those rocks fell down due to the intense fight with the demon goats, shaking the ground and knocking the sword into the hole? where are the gods?

you're all thinking there is a deeper meaning but all that happened is that Jack let go of the sword and it fell down a hole.

>>91971727
If it just "fell down the hole" then it still would've been down there at the bottom. Holy shit, it's not that hard.

>>91971727
>when was that? after HE dropped it at the shock of the dead goats?
Sword disappeared on its own. That's why it wasn't at the bottom of the pit.

>>91968434
In the Ultra-Bots episode he prays and gets blessed with an ubersword that lasts for exactly one hit.

>>91971727
You really don't grasp the whole "gods work through natural forces" thing do you?

>>91971727
>you're all thinking there is a deeper meaning
No, I simply listened to what Jack was saying.

>>91971745
>>91971750
>That's why it wasn't at the bottom of the pit
because of the gods, riiiight?
what a shit excuse.

>>91971727
>paying attention to the show = looking for a deeper meaning
wew lad

>>91971764
Some people are just helpless. I bet your family wishes your dumbass was never born.

>>91971764
>because of the gods, riiiight?
But that's how it works in the Jack verse? Is this your first Season of Samurai Jack? Are you new to Samurai symbolism and all that shit. Hell even Kung Fu Panda does this stuff

>>91971764
>because of the gods, riiiight?
No, because the sword is magic.

>anons would rather take anything in the show as a given instead of questioning the thought process put into the plot

is this what being a deluded fanboy is like?

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>muh deus ex machina
That's fortune cookie nonsense anon!

To change the subject, to those who have watched the previous seasons, which is a very small number in this thread, do you think they will reveal Jack's real name. I don't think so since Jack stands for more than just himself.

>>91971786
No, it's what actually paying attention to the show look like.

You should try it.

If you have a problem with a show featuring a sword forged with god Magic having magic power, you shouldn't have started watching it in the first place.

>>91970423
It's Rama, an Incarnation of Vishnu.

>>91971727
>IT ABANDONED JACK... BUT SOMETHING HAPPENED THEN THE SWORD DID NOT EXPECT...

>>91971811
I think it will remain a secret.

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>>91971813
so when is Jack going to face the consequences of his actions? when will "the gods did it" stop being the only valuable explanation?

>>91971851
He has faced them. He's been living in despair for fifty fucking years, trapped in a world without hope.

>>91971851
>so when is Jack going to face the consequences of his actions?
He just did. It's because he faced his internal struggle the Sword accepted him back.

This seals it for me. SJ is a VISUALS show, not a STORY show.

>>91971881
This was established in the first season.

>>91971881
So did the visuals of this episode help it, or was its focus on story progression via those visuals throw it off?

Oh shit, since Ashi has Aku's spirit in her, that means he can probably possess her

>>91971875
yes, for his own human error. being too close to a hole while holding something extremely important.
there were no gods involved before, just until they had to give him his sword back.

>>91971811
Didn't Genndy already come out and say that Jack's real name will never be revealed?

So did the gods give him his clothes back whenever he lost them in the original series?

>>91971948
No, he'd stitch up a new set

>>91971881
yeah, just like a porn mag. there's nothing valuable.

>>91971931
>yes, for his own human error. being too close to a hole
His error was to give in to anger and despair, not letting the sword fall on the ground.

I don't know if you are trolling or if you are a new brand of of obtuse.

>>91971931
>there were no gods involved before,
THEY
ARE
THE GODS
WHO MADE
THE SWORD
IN THE FIRST PLACE

So you didn't actually watch the previous season, didn't you?

>>91971986
>there were no gods involved before
in this current season.

yes, I know they existed but they were involved with Jack's father, not Jack himself.

>>91972008
What's your point

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>>91972008
>in this current season.
And?

>but they were involved with Jack's father, not Jack himself.
Jack is his father's heir and wild the sword the gods created thus they are also involved with him via the sword. He is still their champion to defeat Aku.

Also, Jack met Horus once.

>all this autism itt

Fuck, and I thought my cousins had bad comprehensive skills. SJ is the simplest of stories. There's magic, there's robots, there's action, and there's electronic music in the background. That's all it is. Holy fuck.

>>91971975

>His error was to give in to anger and despair
so the sword is like Mjolnir now?kek, mjolnir and odin
the gods never told Jack's father that he would be unworthy of the sword if he went berserk or if he gave in to anger and despair. they told him that he was chosen to use a sword forged from his own righteousness. there are no other rules.

so you can see why I think the argument that "the gods took away the sword because Jack threw a fit" is a bit unbelievable in the context of the show and the lore. Jack losing the sword because he let it go is way more believable.

>>91972112
>so the sword is like Mjolnir now?kek, mjolnir and odin
>now
It has always been. Yes. Fucking yes.

It has always been like that.

>the gods never told Jack's father that he would be unworthy of the sword if he went berserk
>there are no other rules.
There is a literal episode of Jack fighting Aku where Aku try to kill jack with his sword and is unable to hurt Jack with it.

>so you can see why I think the argument that "the gods took away the sword because Jack threw a fit" is a bit unbelievable
I can see you didn't watch the previous seasons.

>>91968435
>still saying that people who didn't like the Omen "just didn't get it"
Everyone already figured out what he was early on. That doesn't excuse the utterly crappy way he was handled.

>>91972153
>>91972153
Except he was well handled.

>>91972150
>Aku try to kill jack with his sword and is unable to hurt Jack with it.
Gods also said destroying the evil is a task for a human. Aku is not human so why would the sword work if he used it?

>I can see you didn't watch the previous seasons
what is that supposed to mean? the God's rules applied to Jack's dad are not the same for Jack? why wouldn't they be?

op youre a bitch. the show has been completely awesome and coherent and unlike your legend of whorra, there is no stupid love subplot that no one cares about.

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>>91969446
>What do you expect him to do, climb down a massive hole with no supplies?
YES!
He's climbed mountains and ventured into volcanos with just a robe and some sandals. Waiting around for 50 years being depressed about dropping the key to defeating an ultimate evil down a bill hole is dumb.

>thinking Aku will actually die/destroyed

You newfags didn't watch birth of evil, huh?

>>91972169
Others disagree.

>>91972217
>big evil doesn't die at the end
what kind of shit story doesn't end like that?

>>91972222
see
>>91972222

>>91972226
a childrens bedtime story

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>WOOPS, DROPPED THE KEY TO SAVING THE UNIVERSE DOWN A HOLE BUT I'M SAD NOW SO I WON'T BOTHER GETTING IT ASAP.

>>91972182
>Aku is not human so why would the sword work if he used it?
Jack outright spell it out. The sword can't strike the pur of heart. It has a min of its own.
>the God's rules applied to Jack's dad are not the same for Jack? why wouldn't they be?
They are the same. But Jack's dad never lost his way.

Just accept that you are wrong. Eerything that has happened in this episode was laid on and established well in advance. there is zero asspull, here.

This isn't a court, here. things can be infered or simply alluded to for them to be acceptable. There is no requirement for everything to be 100% asserted and spelled out to be allowed. Narative can flow on implication and suggestion.

You are basically saying "we didn't have access to an exhaustive rulebook of how the sword work, therefore anything that isn't 100% certain is unacceptable"

show has established the connection of the sword with the gods and how it can have a mind of its own. I EVERYTHING you need to accpet what happened in this episode. with that, you have zero reason to complain.

>>91972226
>>91972242
Evil and Good are always at war

>>91972231
what must I look at?

They should have had Jack lose his sword in the time portal.

And have it be retconned that that's how his father got the sword in the first place

>>91972255
He did but it wasn't there.
And he didn't understand why he couldn't find it because he was depressed, shaken and presumably frustrated.

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>>91969071
I'm pretty sure Jack is going to die in the end. He'll leave the sword for Ashi to protect the world, and Jack will reunite with his family in the afterlife. He'll be scared at first for "failing", but his family will embrace him and show all the good he's done.

>>91972255

NOT NOW, I'M TRYING TO SLEEP!

>>91971764
Rewatch the Pilot and the Birth of Evil then look at your post

>>91972255
You faggot loser. Neck yourself.

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>>91972258
>Narative can flow on implication and suggestion.
who could actually want a half-baked story?

>>91972288
Nigga is baiting the fuck out of you all. Nobody is that stupid annon.

>>91969351
>>91972190
Two explanation:
-He actually went down but the sword already had disappeared, so he couldn't find out.
-After learning the last time portal was destroyed, and that his fight had caused the death of innocent creatures, he simply didn't had the the motivation anymore and had already gave up. He just had faced the realisation he would never get home.

>>91971931
Somewhat related.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gWgLtF2h6Zc

>>91972289
This is how most of the stories work, anon.

Spelling out everything is actually terrible story-telling.

>>91969328
You mean Jackson. Tolkien never wrote that line.

i liked it. it was great.

>>91968339
She was the priestess. What the hell were you expecting, some big reveal like "Ooh she was one of the girls Aku told fairy tales to and she thought he really was Little Red Riding Hood!"? She was a new character who specifically had significance to Ashi's story, which is why they killed her off with three episodes to go to deal with Jack's story.

>>91972293
>-He actually went down but the sword already had disappeared, so he couldn't find out
I want a real explanation, not just "the gods did it"

>-After learning the last time portal was destroyed, and that his fight had caused the death of innocent creatures, he simply didn't had the the motivation anymore and had already gave up. He just had faced the realisation he would never get home.
he still had his mission to kill Aku, shouldn't he be satisfied with saving the future, he's already met so much people and helped more than enough. where did this sudden disdain for the future people come up? it just doesn't sound like Jack at all, and no, I never wanted a Jack depressed story.

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>>91969351
>>"and so, I wasn't able to find it again"
His will to continue his seemingly endless quest fell deep into the chasm that is his anger.

>>91972293
>-He actually went down but the sword already had disappeared, so he couldn't find out.
And that could've been done 50 years ago.
>-After learning the last time portal was destroyed, and that his fight had caused the death of innocent creatures, he simply didn't had the the motivation anymore and had already gave up. He just had faced the realisation he would never get home.
Which is completely retarded since the whole ordeal was Aku's doing and, going by this show's standards, Jack could've had a week to a year of self-reflection to come yo terms with his situation.

>>91972289
>who could actually want a half-baked story?
fucking idiot modernists at it again. lemme guess, you hate Kafka's Metamorphosis because its never explained why he transformed into a cockroach nor what it represents

>>91969351
This is important.

Jack knew why the sword fell. But he lied to himself. He used the chasm as an excuse, that it made the sword physically "lost," and as long as he didn't look for it, he wouldn't have to be faced with the truth.

The very act of searching for the sword is the first step in opening himself up to the truth -- that the sword left him. Only when he does this can he begin the penance process.

>>91971489
bitch didn't have to exist at all.

>>91972293
>He actually went down but the sword already had disappeared, so he couldn't find out

Are you daft or are you not reading the thread? The problem is that he didn't look for the sword immediately. If he did that, he could have had this thing sorted out five decades ago.

>>91972326
so it's a worthless character stealing screentime that could be used to explain plotholes.

bravo gendy

>>91972289
Goddamn it, why is every thread is full of people that have no fucking idea how to tell a story?

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>>91972258
Which would probably mean the goats had their past too. Just because something is fuzzy wussy don't mean it can't be evil or have it's own agenda.

Hardly a deus ex when the gods were obviously behind the sword since the beginning and merely returned it to Jack after he regained his purpose.

And there wasn't any need to see who the priestess was. She wore a mask to emulate Aku, and to remove attachment from her children. You can love a symbol, but you would love the face of your parent more if you actually saw them. The priestess didn't want ANY weakness from her daughters.

In short, stop crying like a bitch.

>>91970929
>Jack didn't deal with his frustration and rage, it was just Buddha Beam'd away
Did you see the same episode I did? Jack burned the frustration and rage away himself with his LASER EYE BEAMS, when it was trying to overcome him and make him strike out at the monk figure. The power literally came from within him, so if that's external to you, there's no reasoning with you.

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>>91972343
what it's supposed to represent, then? tell us, smart guy.

if you have nothing to say then you have no reason to be here.

>>91972334
>I want a real explanation, not just "the gods did it"
THERE IS AREAL EXPLANATION. If you didn't listen to the episode, at least read this thread.

it has already been told (and Jack literally spelt it out in that episode) that the Sword disappeared because Jack lost his way. the sword only came back once he found balance back.

>he still had his mission to kill Aku, shouldn't he be satisfied with saving the future
Jack wanted to save his own and his family. Fuck, the first episode of season 5 literally show him guilting over not being able to save the people of his time.

Just learning that he would never be able to save them must have been terrible.
>. where did this sudden disdain for the future people come up?
What kind of ass are you? Facing the despair you will never be able to save the people you swear o protect doesn't mean disdain for other. People can be desespaired from ime to time, in the face of failure. And Jack was never about that. It's what make him human.

Fuck, you are literally the kind of person who blame a fireman to not have been able to save everyone because he just learned his family had been killed that day. The worst despicable kind of entitlement.

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>>91972293
Nigga please. Jack has been saving countless lives through his actions. One moment of killing innocent animals and the evil lying deity saying he destroyed all portals in the universe shouldn't be enough to keep him from finding the only thing that could kill the ultimate evil plaguing the universe.

And this sort of thing has been addressed in the original series with several episodes. Every time jack would get unmotivated or start to lose hope in his quest, he would realize that he's still saving the world even while Aku is still alive.

>>91972288
>You faggot loser.
Only a real "faggot loser" would think this is a diss worth posting.

>>91972341
>And that could've been done 50 years ago.
That's my point, he might have already done it 50 years ago but it had disappeared already.
>Which is completely retarded since the whole ordeal was Aku's doing and, going by this show's standards, Jack could've had a week to a year of self-reflection to come yo terms with his situation.
Why is it retarded to get despaired when you meet complete failure?

>>91972372
>Are you daft or are you not reading the thread? The problem is that he didn't look for the sword immediately.
You got me wrong. What I said was he already went down once right after the sword felt, but couldn't find it because it had already disappeared.

>>91972391
Jesus, can't we accept some visual shortcuts to express the killing of innocents in a 3 minute flashback? Some cute naive things follow Jack, he mindlessly kills them when they are controlled by evil and look evil. It's not 10/10 creatively but we've expressed our ideas quickly without muddling the message. We're not watching Hamlet here.

>>91972424
a fireman would fulfill his damn self-imposed duty if it meant saving lives. heroes have no time to cry.

>>91972391
I think being corrupted by Aku is what allowed the sword to kill them.

Maybe Jack would have been able to cure their alignement by making non lethal strike of the sword, but he was too engulfed by anger to care.

I think it's part of the reason the sword abandoned Jack, as he handled the situation poorly and ended up using the sword to remove live of innocent creatures. It didn't appreciate that.

But that's just pure speculation from my part.

>>91970929
You completely misunderstood that scene...Woah. You people really are dumb.

>>91972472
>a fireman would fulfill his damn self-imposed duty if it meant saving lives. heroes have no time to cry.
JESUS CHRIST, You are an ass.

A fireman who has just learned his family has been killed in a car accident somewhere else or something IS IMMEDIATELY REMOVED FROM DUTY.

Anyone with basic caring would understand this.

>>91972428
>One moment of killing innocent animals and the evil lying deity saying he destroyed all portals in the universe
He can't save his family anymore. His main motivation, what has kept him going the whole time, is gone. Forever. His familly and his home, never to be found again.

Of course he is going to have a low blow, when the one thing that kept him going the whole time is now gone.

It's like none of you guys have ever met rock bottom.

>And this sort of thing has been addressed in the original series with several episodes. Every time jack would get unmotivated or start to lose hope in his quest, he would realize that he's still saving the world even while Aku is still alive.
Except every time, he kept going because there were still portal to be found. It was the last one. The one that break the camel's back.

>>91972373
Not a very convincing argument on your part, because you haven't explained why you think a character having a specific relationship to another character that doesn't go far beyond that makes them useless. What would a face reveal actually improve in the narrative, given the place the priestess already played in it?

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>the time portals are gone, but I still have a mission to complete!
>oh fuck I killed some sheep, I'm not worthy of the sword anymore! >even though I murdered robots left and right, to the gods they don't count and the same goes for me!
>I still have to fulfill my righteous mission, but I'm not worthy of the sword!
>better give up !
get Spock on the playing field right now! the needs of many outweigh the needs of the few and it's damn right.

>>91972530
so Jack should just give up because he killed some sheep and there's no more time portals?

what about the future that Aku's grasp is choking? doesn't Jack care?