It's the final round of /co/'s favorite cartoon tournament: Samurai Jack vs. Avatar: the Last Airbender. Vote to bring your favorite the crown here:
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeE8vU59prTyuov_RtLWgYg1SBkB6tIHn6eFw94wzs_OIPDCw/viewform?usp=sf_link
As you'll notice, there's a tiebreaker for third place as well, Batman vs. SpongeBob, the two losers of last round. As usual, none of the matchups are required and the voting should stay open for at least 24 hours.
>>91955035
>Spongebob was beaten
I actually really like Samurai Jack and am enjoying the new season but SERIOUSLY
>Its Avatar vs. BTAS
>>91955084
Stay fucking mad, Spongebob shouldnt have gotten this far to begin with
I'm honestly surprised Avatar beat out B:TAS in the semifinals.
I voted for Avatar out of sheer contrarianism.
>>91955096
SHIT I MEANT TO SAY SJ
>>91955118
Except I'm not mad, just flabbergasted.
>>91955084
Sponge has been shit for years, anon. Jack has been consistently good to great.
>>91955035
>it's battle of the of thinly veiled animus
Congrats, /co/. Really showing that you guys are basically weaboos in denial.
>Option 1
>>91955035
Who /Option 1/ here?
Option 1 its my favorite cartoon
>>91955207
I fixed that, and also made it so we can see results like all the other rounds.
>>91955035
KOTH losing to Spongefag was a troll vote right?
>>91955035
the fuck outta here, avatar
WACHA
>>91955035
>/co/'s magnus opus is a fucking Anime Ripoff
>An Anime Ripoff
JUST
U
S
T
avatar deserves to be in the finals, but it's ridiculous that sj got this far. sj is good, and genndy is awesome, but avatar is fucking amazing.
>>91955287
>/co/'s magnus opus is a fucking Anime Ripoff
not yet anon, BATMAN WILL WIN!
avatarfags pls leave
>>91955287
And anime is a ripoff of western animation. Swings and roundabouts. It's losing to Jack right now anyway. Having the final round on the day a new Jack episode airs practically ensures victory
>>91955337
Its not including Korra mind you
Also OTGW is the greatest cartoon of all time and deserved to win this stupid tournament.
>>91955296
>but it's ridiculous that sj got this far.
Clearly not. Jack has always been a favorite of /co/
>>91955035
>Avatar beat Batman
Guess /co/ really is a bunch of underage millennials
>>91955379
Jack would probably have made it given the bracket, since it was always the most revered of all early 2000s CN cartoons, but if it weren't for s5 hype it wouldn't've been able to beat Avatar or even Batman or Futurama
>>91955434
The youngest millennial would still be at least 20.
Please learn what that word means other than "people I don't like"
>>91955434
literally the only defense for B:TAS I hear nowadays is "b-buh...first longrunning cartoon series drawn on black paper..." never anything about the characters, the story, or any of the episodes. Nothing other than muh black paper and Hamill's Joker.
Hamill was also the villain of Avatar. Hamill is just a good thing magnet.
>>91955495
>Hamill is just a good thing magnet
But then why is nu-Star Wars so shit?
SJ's current hype and spite voting against Avatar = decisive SJ victory
>>91955536
Avatar came back against worse odds last round.
>>91955527
Because he doesn't like it.
http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/star-wars/news/a826339/star-wars-the-last-jedi-mark-hamill-disagrees-with-luke-skywalker-storyline/
>>91955536
Not to mention the episode in a few hours bringing in the fans. Avatar is fucked
>>91955310
Here's how Batman can still win!against SpongeBob
>>91955563
Nigga Avatar is falling now. In a few hours when all the Jack fans are here it's just going to get worse
>>91955449
>but if it weren't for s5 hype it wouldn't've been able to beat Avatar
Jack hasn't beaten Avatar, idiot, that's this round
>or even Batman or Futurama
Jack is much better than either of those shows.
>>91955536
I'm pretty sure the spite voting is FOR Avatar due to the vote timing being all but rigged for Jack.
>>91955035
so this is the 3rd place battle, right? RIGHT?
>>91955618
Avatar grew from -14 to +7 overnight last round. It repeatedly came back from behind in EEnE, Futurama, and Batman. I knew it would win the other rounds, this round I don't think so but I wouldn't be surprised if it wins either.
>>91955035
>https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeE8vU59prTyuov_RtLWgYg1SBkB6tIHn6eFw94wzs_OIPDCw/viewform?usp=sf_link
SJ will win because it is both current and nostalgic, otherwise I think Avatar would have won, but I am reliefed that two great shows made it into the finale.
>>91955084
>>91955118
>>91955202
>>91955256
Teen Titans losing to SpongeBob was the troll vote.
So, the /a/ invasion is real? Fuck You! /co/
>>91955684
It's both 1st and 3rd.
>>91955753
No, fuck you! Anon
Wow what an exciting final round.
Meme: The Last Nostalgia Bender and Circlrjerk Jacking (off)
This board is fucked for letting Teen Titans beat Boondocks and the whole seed was scuffed from the start. Missing shows, worthless shows included, totally different shows against each other. Scuffed.
>>91955753
>>91955774
There's nothing wrong with taking inspiration from superior quality.
>>91955695
>37% and still falling
>>91955362
OTGW is an hour in length. You might as well call Korgoth a series.
I mean, it's fantastic, but c'mon.
>>91955035
>jack got 58%
>avatar got 57.3%
guys i'm scared for this
>>91955035
Spongebob vs B:TAS is hard. Spongebob has more shit episodes, but at least all of the good episodes are densely packed together. Every episode of the first three seasons is gold. Batman TAS, the good episodes are really spread out, and you have to go through a lot of meh to get to them.
>>91955822
Don't worry, it won't last.
>>91955778
>The shows that I wanted to win didn't win so therefore everyone is wrong but me.
>>91955864
Why? Jack will easily wipe the floor with faux-anime bullshit. It's not even a contest.
>>91955876
You're the one rigging this all along, aren't you?
>>91955916
No, although I am OP. I don't actually think Avatar will win this round, I'm just saying it this time as a good luck charm because I want it to.
>>91955905
That's why I'm scared, man. I'm rooting for Avatar.
>>91955880
>strawman because I'm triggered
Fuck off faggot, nostalgia Bender was an average show and Jack only got bonus points because co is home to their new seasons circle jerk.
If this was posted on Reddit (seeds fucked, of) results would be way different.
>>91955035
>the two most weeb shows are the top 2
>>91955949
Fuck off, then. Your show is less than shit.
>>91955876
>>91955946
Well, if anyone IS rigging it they're gonna have to do a much better job this time, because episode 7 is tonight and it will probably bring a bunch of votes
>>91955958
Action cartoons are popular on /co/. Action cartoons often draw from anime. It isn't really confusing or surprising.
Meme: The Last Nostalgia Bender
Vs.
Circlejerk Jack(off)
So it's official, Co has garbage taste?
>>91956055
When will mobile posters fuck off?
>>91956005
I mean I imagine most of the people watching the current season of Jack are voting for it anyways, and I don't think the episode airing is going to cause new people to click on this thread.
>>91955287
>not knowing what "magnum opus" means
Open a book once in a while, Star Vs. won't teach you English
>>91955830
This is what I've been saying all along!
>>91956074
There are MANY /co/ posters who only come here for Jack. You're really underestimating the effect.
>>91956141
What I mean is I doubt those people will care to click on this thread. I could be wrong though.
mfw I changed my ip countless times to make Jack win
>>91956195
mfw shitposter is this dumb
I honestly think Batman is the best out of those four.
>>91956071
You actually sit down at a desk to post? Enjoy your back problems you weird autist.
>>91956314
Looks like 57.3% of /co/ disagrees with you. Enjoy your shit taste, faggot.
>>91956358
No, 57.3 percent thinks Avatar is better. The number of people who think literally any other show is better is much, much higher.
I'LL SAY IT ONE,
MORE.
FUCKING.
TIME.
JACK LOSES.
WE.
FUCKING.
RIOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>91956775
Get your pitchforks out because Avatar will be ahead in the morning.
Is fucking Samurai Jack seriously going to win best cartoon of all time
>>91956775
Avatar does riots best anyways.
>>91956808
If you don't vote for Avatar right now, looks like it is.
>>91956195
Kill yourself retard
>>91956808
Yes because
-It's the running show.
-There's a new episode today, the crucial day of the final decision.
>>91955035
I mean,realistically if SJ wasn't relevant due to s5 it wouldn't have gotten this far,plus his opponents weren't very relevant/popular shows.If in the earlier rounds you put SJ up against simpsons,teen titans or batman the foolish samurai would have been out by now
I guess what I am saying is this way of choosing /co/'s favorite isn't verry reliable and the outcome would be different every time depending on who you put up against with
>>91955035
Somebody should make an animation out of this tournament
>>91957296
Avatar was the last Jack and still has a very loyal fandom, i say they cancel each other
>>91955035
>currently running nostalgia bait wins
Okay.
>>91957296
>If in the earlier rounds you put SJ up against simpsons,teen titans or batman the foolish samurai would have been out by now
You're insane. That's all.
>>91955035
Courage should have won
I voted Avatar but there's really no denying SJ has a huge advantage and will probably win here.
Currently airing + highly active fanbase + new episode tonight
That said, vote Avatar.
>>91955035
>REEEE SAMURAI JACK DOESN'T COUNT BECAUSE MUH NEW SEASONS
Cry harder Avatar children
You should be glad you made it this far.
>Jack vs. The fucking Avatar.
Jack Wins.
>>91955905
>Both cartoons are inspired by Japanese culture
>Samurai Jack is literally Japanese
>Made by Russian Jew
State of "American" cartoons.
>>91957871
im actually mad Venture Bros, Tron and TCW didnt get further.
Jack best animated series of all time, here we go!
>>91958029
America is a cultural hub. It's supposed to be the battlefield for the best of the best from every culture.
Which is exactly what you're making this sound like.
>>91958033
>Spectacular Spider-man, Tron:Uprising, Green Lantern, Avengers Earth's Mightiest Heroes didn't even get past phase 1
Where's the real poll?
>>91955035
Reminder: If you vote for Spengebab, you're literally voting for the death of Western Animation
>>91955118
King of the Hill should have gone all the way. The Simpsons losing to Avatar is also lame. And then Avatar beating Batman.
Really, just a lot of bad taste.
>>91957871
Especially compared to the other fake anime, Teen Titans, which lost to a fucking underwater creature.
Yes, I'm still mad, why do you ask?
>>91958033
I was upset that Venture Bros lost to Dexter's Lab.
I would actually be okay with Venture Bros losing to Batman TAS but Dexter's Lab ? Really ?
But the worst part for me was that Xavier: Renegade Angel lost to fucking Ducktales on Phase 1.
I guess I should have known what to expect from /co/.
>>91957703
>That said, vote Avatar.
No
>>91957296
>I mean,realistically if SJ wasn't relevant due to s5 it wouldn't have gotten this far
SJ has always been a sacred cow of /co/. The top 4 reflects the board very well
>>91955035
give me the numbers /co/
>>91956195
you mean your google account?
>>91958033
Seriously.
I wouldn't be so upset about TCW if the show it lost to didn't immediately lose to Star Vs as well.
>>91958033
>>91958705
You guys do realize you're talking about the shit 2008 series, not the good 2003 one which got much further in this tournament?
>>91958773
The 2008 series is easily among the best show on here, top 5 at least, and the best version of Star Wars. It has some weak episodes and arcs, but so does Batman TAS which is in the final 2.
>>91958867
The vast majority of /co/ clearly disagrees with you, I've barely even seen any complaints about it losing
(Yours may be the first, come to think of it.)
>>91958916
It's just le edgy shit for insecure adults and hipsters who are afraid to admit they like children's shows. Same as Tron: Uprising.
>>91958999
Trips confirm, as usual.
>>91957296
>if SJ wasn't relevant due to s5 it wouldn't have gotten this far
Samurai Jack has always been one of the more beloved shows, it was almost sort of a "sacred cow" until the new season arrived and suddenly everyone knew about and started to complain about it.
It's just that since most people who remembered it agreed on most aspects of the show, threads didn't last.
The sad truth is that you can't really have much of a discussion if everyone agrees with each other.
Star Vs still remains my favorite animated show of all time. This choice is very simple however, Samurai Jack is far better than Avatar. Avatar doesn't even deserve to be in the top 10 of any lists.
>>91959099
Your shit waifu show with lore sprinkled on top to mask its shallowness should not even be in this.
>>91959148
I never asked what you think, and considering you probably think KND is a top tier show your opinion is worthless.
MRW i see all the salty /co/ tears in this thread
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvNzuj79jRM
>>91959239
>I never asked what you think
I don't give a shit.
>and considering you probably think KND is a top tier show your opinion is worthless.
When did I mention KND?
i really love both shows, but had to vote avatar
even though samurai jack was the first show i ever saw on cartoon network
ATLA is just an extremely well made and creative show, and this is a waifu free post
>>91959295
>this is a waifu free post
Then why does it mention ATLA?
>Invader zim lost to Rick and Morty
FUCKING REDDIT
I look forward to tonight's episode making everyone regret ever voting for Samurai Jack!
>>91959415
It would've been BTFO'd by Futurama anyways.
Only Avatar managed to stop it, and it was 53.3%. No other show even managed to come close to it.
>>91955954
This isn't "Reddit's favorite cartoon tournament", this is "/co/'s favorite cartoon tournament".
>>91955954
>If this was posted on Reddit
Yeah well we're not on fucking Reddit are we you cunt
JACK HAS WON
>>91959648
>implying
solid 8/10. The episode still wasn't as great as the first three but it was still good.
Jack just came back. Will this be the end of the Avatar?
>>91956088
what did you mean by this?
>>91962533
Are you fucking retarded? The 24 hours have barely begun.
Is the second season of Jack known to be bad? I started watching it and while I enjoyed the 1st season a good deal this second season has been putting me to sleep. The last episode I just watched (the one with the dragon) was downright stupid. Does the show recover from here or is the concept just getting boring?
>>91962691
I meant what I meant. That is not what magnum opus means. I knew /co/ wasn't the brightest board but geez
>>91955362
If/when greatest animated movies and specials happen it'll win.
>>91963206
Second season has two of the worst episodes, but also a few fan favourites. It's a mixed bag. Other seasons are a lot more even, though.
>>91963206
Season 2 is a blight on the series, but watch every episode, even that season has some great ones. If you watch everything you won't regret it, trust me.
>>91956775
This is something I'd expect to see on tumblr.
>>91964604
Instead, you're seeing it on /co/mblr. Not much of a difference, really.
>tfw EE&E could've been on the finals or at least semi if it werent because of Avatar
Give'em hell Jack
>>91955035
>avatar beating ed, edd and eddy
>avatar beating the fucking simpsons, which is the greatest cartoon of all time, actually contributing to american culture
I don't recognize this place anymore
>>91965002
It would probably have lost to the Simpsons, anon.
>>91965052
All seasons of Simpsons counts. The show is irredeemably shit nowadays, not "the best of all time"
>>91965052
The Simpsons contributes to American TRASH culture. Homer is literally THE poster boy for losers
Avatar OTOH actually elevates American culture beyond its degenerate state. (Shame about LOK...)
>>91965052
You need to calm the fuck down.
>>91965052
I agree with you, but to be fair Simpsons is about 75% trash, 25% classic television, whereas Avatar is pretty good through all 3 seasons
>>91965416
>hating S14 and CED'oh
That's a paddlin'
>>91955035
>Brave and the Bold lost to Teen Titans.
Fucking waifufags.
>>91965844
Sex sells, anon. Even in the 2D world.
>>91965052
These seem pretty straight forward. I imagine if you posted the original pairings to buzzfeed this is about the same as what you'd get. It just looks like more popular beating out more obscure to me.
>>91967533
>Simpsons
>more obscure than Avatar
Is it Opposite Day today?
>>91958916
Well from my point of view the vast majority of /co/ has shit taste.Star vs isn't even that good.
>>91965844
Teen Titans has incredibly strong characterization. Not just waifus, though it probably beats every other cartoon in existence in that sense.
>>91967860
Is it Opposite day or Dramatic Music day?
>>91955035
>Regular Show beat Drawn Together
>>91967860
I meant to say most of the time, for example, Filmore getting beat out. Also, if popular means, more well received, people in general like avatar more.
>>91969696
What? "Popular" is by the sheer number of people who like it, added up. Even shambling in its zombie years, The Simpsons is too much of a pop cultural juggernaut to fail in a general popularity contest. It's too recognisable.
Now if we're talking about /co/ instead of "people in general," as is the topic of the poll, you'd be right.
Anyone got percentages on btas vs avatar? I'm having trouble processing this.
>>91955035
Whats the next poll? Animated movies? Something to do with comics?
>>91965196
>>91965052
Posts like that are why this thing was fucked. It was a simple question, what is the most favorite cartoon, there isn't any stipulation about averages of quality over a 30 year period. Do you like Simpsons at any point? Do you consider it one of your favorite cartoons of all time ? Then vote for it. Retards thinking this was some sort of average quality measurement are why you had an autist going ballistic for several days because Daria lost to FOP, and why two meme pseudo anime are the finalists.
>>91971155
Anon. "Do you like (thing) more than (other thing)?"
That is the question. The reasons for liking something are up to the individual. Barring rigging, the finalists got where they are because more people like them more -- that's it.
>>91971151
Animated Movies sounds good
>>91971151
Toy Story
The Incredibles
Up
WALL-E
Finding Nemo
Monsters, Inc.
Inside Out
Shrek
Frozen
Moana
Zootopia
Kung Fu Panda
How To Train Your Dragon
Cinderella
The Jungle Book
The Lion King
Beauty & The Beast
Pinocchio
Snow White & The Seven Dwarfs
Bambi
Alice In Wonderland
The Nightmare Before Christmas
The Lego Movie
Tangled
Peter Pan
Lady and the Tramp
Fantasia
Who Framed Roger Rabbit
101 Dalmations
The Fox And The Hound
The Little Mermaid
Aladdin
Mulan
Tarzan
The Iron Giant
The Emperor's New Groove
Lilo & Stitch
Wreck-It Ralph
Big Hero 6
Ratatouille
Your Name
Spirited Away
My Neighbor Totoro
Kubo and the Two Strings
Howl's Moving Castle
Come on Sponge!
>>91956358
>contrarian board disagrees
>shit taste
kys my man
I really don't think it's right to have this poll before Jack is done. What if the ending is a complete asspull (just like Avatar)? You should have waited.
>>91971838
Adding some Don Bluth to the list, why is he always forgotten by /co/?:
Anastasia
An American Tail
Titan A.E.
The Land Before Time
Since you included japanese animation, I'd further like to add to the list:
Akira
Ghost In The Shell
Little Witch Academia
The Girl Who Lept Through Time
Nausicaa Of The Valley Of The Wind
Princess Mononoke
Redline
Dead Leaves
>all these butthurt spongefags
My sides.
Wew. What's so special about SJ?
It's not even consistent
>>91974087
Nothing much
SJ winning is fair, but I fear the avatarfags will begin to cheat
>>91955035
>No TCW
>>91974118
>t. Jackfag
>>91965196
If we use this logic spongebob should lost in the first round.
>>91974118
It's pretty much cheating to include an unfinished show.
What result were you most upset by?
>>91955958
>SJ
>weeb
>>91974128
>t. Avatarfag
>>91974143
>https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSeE8vU59prTyuov_RtLWgYg1SBkB6tIHn6eFw94wzs_OIPDCw/viewform?usp=sf_link
BTAS of course.
>>91955131
It was all your fault.
>>91971151
>>91971344
>>91971838
Should we add sequels and should we add anime?
>>91974137
>What is Simpsons
>What is Rick and Morty
>What is Spongebob
>>91974223
Gay shit that will never be finished. All signs point to S5 being the last of Jack.
>>91974143
None of them really. I wanted Gargoyles to go longer but it was totally fair for it to lose to B:TAS.
>>91974122
It's on the right: it lost to Harvey Birdman in the first round. I think it's just that a lot of the people who watch cartoons never bothered with a 3DCGI Star Wars series, which is unfortunate because it's incredible.
>>91973660
>Don Bluth
>No Mrs. Brisby and the secret of NIMH
What the fuck?
WHAT THE FUUUUUCK?
>>91955035
Wow, holy shit, talk about /co/ having bad taste.
>>91971151
THEME SONGS
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>>91971151
Waifus/Husbandos
You thought the salt was bad on this tournament
>>91974863
t. sufag
>>91974087
>Wew. What's so special about SJ?
Its better than ATLA.
Why is Avatar losing in bigger numbers than SpongeBob did against SJ, and yet, Spongebob is getting demolished by Batman which Avatar beat with a significant lead?
>>91956800
>wake up, Jack still winning 65-35
>mfw I knew this would happen
get fucked avatar and dumb sponge
>>91975580
Because SpongeBob is absolute dogshit and stole the spot of Teen Titans. It should have been 4 action cartoons pitted against each other!
FUCKING /CO/ REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Top 4 should've been OTGW, SVTFOE, AT, and ATLA. Fight me.
>>91975744
Top 4 should have been SJ, ATLA, Teen Titans, and... Megas XLR, which lost in the first round because of horrendous seeding and shit taste.
>final round
>two things I didn't like at all
figures
>>91975791
If you don't like one of them you have shit taste as fuck.
If you don't like both of them you should leave /co/.
I can't believe the new season hype got SJ to the finals.
If you legitimely believe it's that good you are just ridding a badwagon, kill yourself.
>>91975911
Season 1-4 on it's own says otherwise spongefaggot
>>91976038
Season 1-4 on its own was good but it's not '/co/'s favourite cartoon of all time' good
>>91975744
>>91975783
Top four should have been my four personal favourite shows.
>Jack avenging Batman, the Eds and Futurama
Based Jack
>>91976085
It would probably be in second place after ATLA if it weren't for season 5.
Which is retarded because season 5 is worse than fucking LOK, but that's /co/ for you.
Daily reminder that Matt Zoller Sweitz, editor-in-chief at rogerebert.com and finalist for the Pulitzer Prize for Criticism, says that Samurai Jack is a masterwork and one of the greatest American animated series ever.
If you vote Avatar, you are objectively wrong
Avatar is infinitely better than SJ, which is only winning due to recency bias.
Fight me.
>>91976157
He obviously hasn't seen Over the Garden Wall.
>>91974087
>What's so special about SJ?
It's airing.
>>91975744
Star Vs. need to FUCK OFF. They have one decent season of television and then it's suddenly the greatest animation put to television waves? No, it's pretty mediocre with cringe writing and basic humour that only appeals to "waifufags" and "shippers". I don't want to hear anymore from you fuckers
>>91975911
t. butthurt Avatar fan
>>91976158
I won't, because you're right.
Though even Avatar is dogshit compared to anime.
>>91976157
AVATARFAGS BTFO
>>91976270
ATLA is better than 99% of anime. It would be considered a masterpiece by /a/ if it was made in Japan.
>>91976157
Has he even watched Avatar?
>>91976295
No, it wouldn't. It's extremely childish in everything it does, and the so-called depth exists in 1 season, and is still shallow actually.
>>91955035
>courage the cowardly dog lost to samurai jack
wtf. i am dne with /co/ cant wait for the shitstorm when atla wins this and it is korra all over again.
avatar is /mlp/ tier of cancer and this board deserves it
>>91971151
Animated Movie's seems like the logical step, but ruling would have to be done to see if we can include Anime, if only theatrical releases are allowed, and on top of figuring out proper seeding (Perhaps with something as simple as Rotten Tomatoes score) we could maybe have a bracket system to basically have a bunch of mini tournaments within the tournament, so that we get things like Classic Disney tournament, Pixar and Modern Disney tournament, Japanese tournaments leading up to the winners of each facing off from the Quarter-Finals onwards.
>>91976332
If we are to do an animated movie tourney next there shouldn't be anime, this is /co/.
>>91959415
>being mad about "rawr xD: The Show" losing
>>91971151
worst animated show
best animated movie
best comic run/arc
>>91960473
>no other show came close to that
EEnE did anon
>>91971838
the tragedy of man
secret of kells
End of evangelion
>>91976393
That was about Futurama, moron.
>>91976309
Name one anime with 3 Seasons that has better fight scenes and characters than ATLA.
>>91976420
Hunter x Hunter
>>91976420
Yu Yu Hakusho
AVATARFAGS BTFO
>>91976420
Hajime no Ippo
>>91976420
I'm honestly puzzled what you were trying to achieve here.
>>91976420
Jojo's Bizarre Adventure
>>91976576
He should've added "not an adaptation" to the list of requirements, because then he'd be right.
>>91976629
Every decent anime is an adaptation though. That's too restrictive for any cartoon comparison.
>>91976420
one piece
>>91976646
>Every decent anime is an adaption
That's ridiculous, many of the best and most famous series are not adaptations and there's a much higher hit rate of success for original anime than there are for LN/manga adaptations.
>>91976711
You're bullshitting. Name some.
>>91976646
Mononoke
Serial Experiments Lane
Gurren lagann
Evangelion
>>91976726
NGE, Cowboy Bebop, Madoka, Code Geass, Gurren Lagann, Texhnolyze, FLCL, Mawaru Penguindrum... literally just the first ones that came to my head.
>>91976752
>>91976788
Okay, fine, so you anons are saying not one of these can satisfy >>91976420
That's even more ridiculous, actually.
>>91976420
Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood
>>91976815
No. ATLA is the best long-form character-driven action series that isn't an adaptation. That being said, I'm not even sure if there exists another long-form character-driven action series that isn't an adaptation, in either anime or western cartoons.
/a/ get out and take ATLA with youI'm not even a Samurai Jack fanboy
>>91976856
But why? I mean, American audiences are borderline retarded so I get that cartoons don't want to do this (and it's why most normies STILL haven't even heard of ATLA), but why wouldn't anime do it?
>>91977142
>American audiences are borderline retarded
>and it's why most normies STILL haven't even heard of ATLA
Those aren't true, but it's just very hard to make a 60 episode original animated TV series that tells one large story. Alex Hirsch couldn't even do a much less ambitious one half that length without having a fucking breakdown. When at the very least the characters and story concept is already created (and more likely the whole plot) it becomes much more doable.
On top of that, very few anime are anime original, most anime are effectively just commercials for light novels. When directors do get to work on their own anime it's usually smaller passion-project type stuff, not epic action stories.
>>91977300
None of those are actual explanations, anon. Having a breakdown? Only smaller passion-project type stuff? Okay, sure, but why are these factors in the first place? Why is it so hard to write a story?
>>91977402
I have no idea what you're asking. Why is it hard to make a 60 episode action series that tells one large story? Making a cartoon isn't just writing a story, which is hard enough on its own. You need smart writers that can write a good story that can work in the cartoon format, smart directors and storyboarders who can keep track of a long story with lots of detours and make sure it stays on track (check out SU and AT for when you don't have this), a lot of money to hire good animators to animate all of your expensive action sequences, you need to conform to whatever the network is asking of you, etc etc.
>SamJack winning with a 130 vote difference
It's over
>>91978089
Wait for the comeback nigger
>>91978217
The previous comebacks were overnight, it's over...
Avatar... n-no...
>>91955035
>Samurai Jack beating Avatar
And all is right with the world, sorta.Why the fuck did Over The Garden Wall lose to KotH only for KotH to choke against Da Sponge, though?
What? Batman didn't make it?
>>91979016
Because the sponge beat everything else, and would almost certainly have beaten Jack at any time that WASN'T in the middle of the new season.
>>91979070
beaten by Avatar 57.3% anon
Do people really actually think that samurai jack is better than avatar?
I enjoy both shows but I really felt like avatar was a masterpiece in nearly all categories.
Samurai jack excels in amazing aesthetic and actions scenes and few other things
Can someone please argue with me about this
>>91979246
Avatar is the greatest cartoon of all time, obviously.
Jack is getting a massive nostalgia bump... which I don't really resent, considering it'll be over forever.
>>91979309
Yeah this tournament really feels like a big nostalgia contest
two things these shows both have in common is that their sequel/successor cartoon doesnt even touch the glory of the original
>>91979368
That's what I've been saying all along. Sadly, the Jackfags are so numerous my message gets lost.
>>91979246
Honestly, Avatar shouldn't have made it past BTAS. It's a great show, but it's not finals material.
>>91979246
While I find ATLA to be a great show, it's seriously hampered by the bad start, the awful S2 finale and the entirety of S3. So while everything else is fantastic, the writing brings it down significantly. Hearing people call it "the pinnacle of western animation" makes me bitter.
Jack has problems of its own with horrible pacing, flimsy continuity and off-putting art (for me anyway); but I think it of better and more consistent quality overall. Mind you, I don't think SJ deserved to get this far in the tourney.
>Avatar better than EEnE
Ummmm no sweetie
>>91976420
Dragonball
>>91979968
>the bad start
The first episode is kind of weak, but I think it picks up the pace considerably by the 2nd episode.
>the awful S2 finale
The s2 finale is great outside of Zuko not choosing to side with them there, which doesn't really make sense.
>the entirety of S3
Only bad thing about s3 is the rock and the time wasted on Zuko's unnecessary character arc.
>>91971838
>>91973660
Hunchback of Notre Dame
IT'S OVER
AVATAR IS FINISHED
>>91980154
More like Avaturd GOTEM
>Jack avenging Ed Edd n Eddy
All is right in the world
>>91980154
>Death Battle
>Between two Pure Good types
I'm pretty certain they'd just awkwardly strike up a conversation in the hypothetical ring. Both sides aren't willing to kill the innocent, anyway.
>>91980094
You're not wrong, but I just feel the Zuko thing threw the narrative into a whole different direction that was in no way good, and it never recovered.
>>91971838
>almost all Disney
>a few ghibli thrown in
Either have the list be 200 spaces long or pick some better/more diverse choices. Also don't think there should be /a/, but if you have to make it he TimeOut Top 100 list, because that actually includes a bunch of obscure picks and was voted on by actual animators: https://www.timeout.com/london/film/the-100-best-animated-movies-how-many-have-you-seen?package_page=38141
>>91980319
>Both sides aren't willing to kill the innocent, anyway.
Tell that to those mystical goats who only tried to help Jack.
>>91980094
>>91980488
No, he's wrong, Book 3 was literal garbage from start to finish. It's barely above LOK tier.
>>91980277
>The final wasn't Samurai Jack vs Ed Edd n Eddy
Damn...
>>91971838
Anomalisa
It's Such a Beautiful Day
Akira
The End of Evangelion
South Park: Bigger, Longer, and Uncut
Sausage Party
The Simpsons Movie
Aqua Teen Hunger Force Colon Movie Film for Theaters
The Powerpuff Girls Movie
The SpongeBob SquarePants Movie
The SpongeBob Movie: Sponge Out of Water
The Rugrats Movie
Rugrats in Paris: The Movie
There, add all of those.
>Anons wanting anime in the animated movies tourney
How about no
>>91971151
>Whats the next poll? Animated movies? Something to do with comics?
I vote comics.
>>91971151
I vote for Animated Movies too
>>91980277
>>91980831
What the fuck is with the insane EE&E support on /co/? It's not even close to Courage's level, let alone Jack or Avatar.
>>91981532
Because it's slapstick kino
>>91955035
>Magic School Bus beats Korra
>by 80 percent
>>91981532
Sounds like shit taste to me
>>91971838
>next
Batman: Mask of the Phantasm
>>91981649
>>91981598
>>91981669
Slapstick kino shouldn't be rated that high, ever. And all of those shows actually did that better too, especially Courage which literally mastered it.
>>91981855
You're a funny guy
>Mission Hill not even in the bracket
???
>>91981915
for you
I don't want an animated movies tournament. Give us a comics tourney please, this is Comics and Cartoons not Cartoons and Cartoons
>>91981939
Time for a board split?
>>91976420
Cory in the House
I'm fucking miffed overall about Space Ghost; CtC losing to Avatard; The Last of the Mohicans. When Avatard was the last Reddit and memey.
>>91982099
What exactly is the appeal of this show? Heard of it but never got around to watching it
>fucking memejack winning
Name 1 (one) scene from it that is better than this scene?
>>91976578
I know JJBA has better fight scenes but I can't stop laughing at the fact it got mentioned
>>91982178
Every scene.
Because that's the worst scene in the whole show.
>>91982244
I vote for animated movies as well
No anime tho
>>91982178
fuck. now i need to rewatch avatar
>>91982277
It's not bait whatsoever, I've explained why that is the case many times.
>>91982456
sure thing matey
>>91982441
https://streamable.com/kp0m3
Avatar is a good show, but Samurai Jack is the only product on the entire list that survived for years without a major drop in quality. Batman had to go through multiple re-imaginings, many of which were poor, Spongebob;'s later seasons became unfunny Family guy tier jokes, Avatar became the Legend of Korra, and so on. SJ meanwhile kept the spirit of the original without going full edgy grimdark.
A vote for Samurai Jack is a vote for America.
>>91982244
Before this tournament I can't recall anyone bitching about the end of Season 2, only the end of Season 3. Which I agree with! But damn did I miss something over the last decade? Why is there all this booty botherment about the Season 2 Finale in these past threads.
>>91982600
Legend of Korra was a separate show with a different premise. It was even voted on separately, saying that because Korra was bad ATLA is somehow worse than it was before it aired seems wrong.
>>91958194
Basically. Moral Orel lost to Gravity Falls, that should be enough of an indicator of where /co/'s tastes lie.
>>91982633
I don't know about that. They're basically the same show, just with minor differences in the character lineup. They share the same lore.
>>91982703
They're set in the same universe but it's a new roster, 100 years apart, the setting is widely different, the creative team isn't the same, and it's billed as a separate series though obviously piggybacking off of the popularity of the first. The character lineup, while trying have similar archetypes as the first to cash in again on the first's popularity, are still completely different characters despite their similarities. On top of that, in this very tournament they were listed separately.
I feel that's like saying if Superman: The Animated Series was shit you'd rate Batman: The Animated Series lower. Same universe, same time period, different setting, different roster but the casts from both shows are merely riffs on the basic heroic archetype, same creative team. S:TAS clearly made to cash in on the success of B:TAS.
>>91982441
Go download the HD remake off of r/thelastairbender
>inb4 reddit
Fuck off with that, it's a high quality remake and the guys poured their hearts into it. I have that shit at a 15.8 share ratio.
>>91982889
>I feel that's like saying if Superman: The Animated Series was shit you'd rate Batman: The Animated Series lower.
If there was certain issues that they shared, then yeah I'd rate it lower.
>>91983152
If Batman had problems of course rate it lower since that's within the show. But rating Batman lower because Superman did something poorly is beyond me.
>>91982895
The 1080p remake is TERRIBLE
Get the 720p one instead
>>91982600
>>91982633
>>91982703
>>91982889
>>91983152
>>91983345
All of this is irrelevant as concerns ATLA because its Book 3 is absolute dogshit.
>>91984443
really? i'm downloading it right now
THE VOTES HAVE BEEN TALLIED AND THE RESULTS ARE IN
>>91984520
Yes, really. Episode 1-4 are completely unwatchable, and many of the later episodes (mostly Book 1) have severe "double line" issues.
>>91984609
This is fake news, post time says 23:58:59.
>>91980520
>GitS 2 above GitS
Wut
>Venture Bros lost to Dexter's Lab
What the fuck?
>>91984683
you caught me, here's the real one
>>91984831
Nah, voting is not over yet, you all still have a little over 2 hours, although I doubt it will change at this point
>>91984916
shit on my dick and egg on my face, i thought it was until 6
>>91984961
I posted the thread a little late yesterday so it'd be unfair to eat those 2 hours. Although again it's virtually impossible either of the two results will chance at this point
>>91985008
So you're only doing this for the final round... why?
Not to mention it's going to skew the final result, even if the victor is all but assured now.
>>91985142
We kept all rounds open for 24 hours, if we closed it now this round would only be open for 22 hrs?
>>91955035
>Avatar beating btas
watch it again homos
>>91985309
Watch BTAS again to affirm that the result is accurate and Batman is shit? Seems unnecessary
>>91985181
The other rounds weren't at 6 PM sharp either...
AVATARFAGS BTFO
>>91955035
what a crock of shit. OP's a jackass for holding this tourney while SJ is airing its final season. It wouldn't have reached the final 4 if it wasn't for the final season hype.
>>91985344
We started posting them at 4 and it kept moving back little by little to make sure all the rounds had at least 24 hours. It would be unfair to give this round less than 24 hours, since that was the promised amount of time for every round. I don't get what you're saying.
>>91976295
Cowboy beebop, samurai champloo, berserk, trigun. FMA brotherhood. All equal to or better than avatar
>>91985436
>We started posting them at 4 and it kept moving back little by little to make sure all the rounds had at least 24 hours.
Ah, okay. I didn't know about this.
>>91985444
>having this shit taste
None of those are good.
>>91955205
This, hopefully these results stay around and are reposted often as a monument to /co/'s legacy of shit taste
>>91985479
>lists what are widely recognized as the best animes ever made
>"none of those are good"
>>91976856
How long is long-form? Gundam 0079 is about a million times better than ATLA.
>>91985479
>beening this pleb
>>91985674
By long-form I meant tells one long, complete story over all its episodes. So at least 52 episodes (or 2 seasons or 4 cours)
>>91962691
i think he's getting around that magnum opus implies /co/ made it
>>91982178
Jack vs shinobi
>>91985444
2k3 is better than Brotherhood.
You can argue the manga being better than 2k3, but Brotherhood very much isn't.
>>91987634
They're all shit desu
>>91985181
END IT ALREADY
>>91987953
Like 10 more minutes.
>>91976295
>It would be considered a masterpiece by /a/ if it was made in Japan.
THERE SHALL BE NO RIOTS :D
>>91988304
What about the Avatar fans?
Alright, voting is officially done now. Jack won with 61.1% of the vote, a larger margin than I was expecting. Batman got 3rd place with 57.2% of the vote.
Where do we go from here? Should I make a new results and discussion thread? Do you guys want another tourney?
>>91988471
>Should I make a new results and discussion thread?
Probably a good idea, many people won't pay attention to this one now.
>>91988433
twelve year olds hardly count as a riot, more like a food fight.
>>91986959
No fucking way.
>>91982178
birth of evil
>>91988471
Make a champion thread. discuss results and possible new tourneys, shit post, and a lot of SJ bragging.
>>91988870
>>91988870
>>91988870
New Thread
>>91976420
Naruto fits the bill although the constant obsession with yelling sasuke kun was horrendous
>>91988768
Found the pleb who needs color.
This reminds me, I haven't seen hunger games threads in a long while. Did they finally get banned?
>>91988471
How about a graphic novel tournament?
>>91974148
>SJ
>not weeb
It's not a bad thing but it is pretty fucking weeb
WHA-CHA!