Why was this allowed to happen?

It was her turn.

Who do you think the target audience for this book was?

>>91915710
OP, you could have posted this here, >>91915388

>>91915710
You better be dumping this faggot, I need a good cringe/laugh

Man that image alone is so....2010s
That is going to be something future generations look at and simply laugh at, like how they laugh at 90s overly edgy stuff and pouches

>>91915710
Because marketing is a thing. Because people assumed she would win so they where trying to jump in that speculator bullshit collectible moneytrain. Because why not? Just because you don't like a candidate doesn't make it illegal to put her face on the cover of a comic you probably don't even read and just want to shitpost about because you hate body image poltics

>>91915826
It never ceases to amaze me how this decade is literally just the antithesis of the 90s in every sense of the word. Conservatism has somehow become counter-cultural. Islam is somehow a feminist religion now. The "family values politician turns out to be gay" trope has become the "male feminist turns out to be a creeper/rapist". Instead of pastors trying to ban video games for being the work of Satan, we have feminists trying to ban video games for being sexist/homophobic. What the fuck is going on?

>>91915826
At least pouches and ammo belts theoretically serve a purpose.

>>91915948
I think it's all the soy they put in everything.

>>91915826
20 years from now you'll be able to open a history textbook and read about how a cartoon frog got a president elected. This is the timeline we chose, and I wouldn't have it any other way.

>>91915998
TURNING THE FREAKING FROGS GAY

>>91916042
Poor guy. I don't even like the dude, but holy fuck he didn't deserve what just happened to him.

>>91916078
Did he end up losing his kids then?

>>91916014
>cartoon frog
you mean comic frog?

>>91915710
>looks just like funny valentine
>the fugly version of fv

Because the chick that wrote that segment was a well respected old comic writer.

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Doujyaaan~

>>91916653
>was a well respected old comic writer
So was Simonson, and then he did the WoW comic. Or Waid, before he moved to Marvel

>>91915948
Shits like a pendulum. Gonna swing back around eventually.

>>91916100
He didn't have kids. They were just child crisis actors.

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>>91916743

>>91916792
They asked why it was allowed. Not why it was bad. Once you get respect they don't seem to care what you do anymore.

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>>91916804

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>>91916014
>>91916042
They just don't want Pepe to reproduce, do they?

>>91915851
The only good answer. The rest is a /pol/ circlejerk. Erase thread.

>>91916014
if the world is here 20 years from now historians will at best admit American was stuck between two bad choices and at worst say we elected Hitler

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>>91916196
2D frog, because even with frogs, 2D > 3D

Leftist control of the media

>>91915710
Why wouldn't it be?
>>91915826
>future generations look at and simply laugh at
If we are lucky

>>91915710
because everyone bought the pools and MSM lies when it was crystal clear that Clinton was the worst candidate to put against Trump even to a foreigner who doesn't know jack shit about American politics like myself.

>>91916831
Is there more, I need it for research?

>>91915826
Nah they won't how many people look back on the Punisher Eminem crossover?

>>91915710
Who even buys that comic? Who is it for? Who is the target audience?

Why?

>>91918019
People who don't even read comics.

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why was this

>>91916042
Actually estrogen levels in the water thanks to contraceptive pills has had an observed behavioural impact on amphibians.

>>91918068
Artists throughout history have used their medium to cope with stress, but this generation's artists are all petulant ego-driven crybabies so we get stuff like the comic you posted.

>>91915826
>implying civilization won't collapse in the next 20 years.

>>91918019
>Who even buys that comic?
Nobody because it's being cancelled.

>>91915710
>Valiant
'nuff said

>>91915948
The left-wing inexplicably got taken over by authoritarians and fascists masquerading as anti-fascists.

Since young people place far more emphasis on freedom and liberty than older people, the right-wing has cleverly responded by rebranding itself as the party of free-speech, and suddenly, for the first time since Europe in the 1930s, we're seeing youth culture skew right.

>>91915710
> why was this allowed to happen?

because you are a child with no real power in the world, OP.

Enough with this "humanity was a mistake" and "how could this happen" stuff, it just comes off as boring.

>>91915948
For another layer of irony, it's all while companies are trying to milk as much 90s nostalgia as possible out of the young adults pushing all the new stuff

>>91917968
Trump MAGA Comic https://imgur.com/gallery/zXlmi

>>91918229

But the right IS more liberty-friendly, now that the brain bug of evangelical christian meddling seems to have been removed

>>91915948
because morning-after pill seemed to actually destroy the frontal lobe of the brain, heck just google "frontal lobe damage" and youll see how those effects are coincidentaly close of your tipical SJW/feminist behaviour.

And when the women on the pill pissed alot of estrogen that its not taken out by common water treatment methods, so you enden up with a highly feminized male population just by drinking the water.

>>91915710
when was it that faith was made? 2015?

>>91918737
Yep.

Meanwhile, the left has adopted a fresh fundamentalism of it's own with Identity Politics, all while ignoring the real issue of class and income.

So not only are the Democrats losing the youth vote, they're also losing the working class.

Which is how we got President Pepe, and our weird altered timeline.

>>91918876
Faith is a 90s character.

>>91918737
>now that the brain bug of evangelical christian meddling seems to have been removed

Oh there's still plenty of "muh Jesus" in there, it's just that the old rednecks and the youth are doing a "the enemy of my enemy" thing right now.

oh look, it's a stealth /pol/ thread

>>91918921
Make a comic about politics and people are gonna start talking about politics on /co/.

>>91918839
Biology doesn't work that way.

>>91919210
So you're saying all those trannies on hormone treatments are just throwing money away and totally didnt grow themselves boobs?
While i think the effect is overstated i dont doubt its present and is having an effect.

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I've seen dumber shit.

>>91919319
So you're saying all those trannies on hormone treatments are just throwing money away and totally didnt grow themselves boobs?
An actual hormone treatment designed specifically for the purpose of putting hormones into your body is going to give you millions of times more of them than any water contamination would.
>While i think the effect is overstated i dont doubt its present and is having an effect.
Yeah, just like the radiation from Fukushima which is lower than that of your average banana is totally having an effect.

>>91919722
Taran wrote this??? From SNL to comics writing? Hmm
It's not all like this sjw shit, is it?

>>91919722
Why use Deathstroke the mercenary/pedo as your mouth piece?

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>>91919884
No fucking clue, this was from a 144 page Comic made in the wake of the Orlando Shooting featuring short stories made by different comic writers. But why they would use Deathstroke of all people for something like this is beyond me.

>>91920010
So this is just going to pretend that Islam had nothing to do with it and the guy was just a evil super villain who hated everyone in love huh?

Someone post the one with Dr.Doom crying over the Twin Towers

Talked to a bunch of normies a few weeks back and they read the comic and apparently normies think it was wonderful and not in anyway a cashgrab

>>91920105
Somehow, Islam is the most feminist religion so you're not allowed to criticize it

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>>91920105
Look, not even Batman could figure out his motives.

>>91920010
>those tragically handsome Ken dolls
>died with tears in their eyes
>because hate or something
Is this page literally fetishizing a tragedy? Or just a tasteless cash-in?

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>>91919722
>>91919878
>>91919884
>>91920010
Meanwhile here is Deathstrokes view on the gun violence in Chicago

>>91920105
>So this is just going to pretend that Islam had nothing to do with it
Gez just like the event it was based on, where religion had nothing to do with it

>>91918908
>Meanwhile, the left has adopted a fresh fundamentalism of it's own with Identity Politics, all while ignoring the real issue of class and income.
It's because identity politics are easy. It's difficult to figure out how to bridge the gap between income brackets, whereas yelling at people who tell racist jokes is easy as shit even though genuine hate crime racism is fucking rare as hell these days (of course it's not completely gone, but prejudice never truly goes away). When we were growing up we were taught to treat all people as equal, regardless of their skin color or gender. Now, we're doing exactly that, yet somehow there's "more racism in America than ever before".

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Why was this allowed to happen?

>>91915948
Power shifted, and it turns out the hew fuckers in charge are just about as hipocritical, bigoted and controling as the last bunch.

>>91920190
Was this pro or anti obama?

>>91920010
So dc is saying a sloppy blowjob from a stranger loaded up on ecstasy in a crowded night club is pure love?

>>91915710
Funny Valentine never looked so funny!

>>91920239
who cares that looks hilarious and I would read it

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>>91920176
>Out with normie friends
>Other normie group talkin about politics
>Half the bar is a circlejerk about how ebil El Presidente is
>All them talking about the rampant spike in hate crime
>Interject with: Where?
>No one can cite a source but they totally read this thing where a person they knew was beaten up for being brown
>Ostracized for the rest of the night

Still waiting in that rise of white nationalist groups ready to lynch da niggaz as I was warned the first week of the new administration
I've seen plenty of anarcho-communists attempting to lynch "fascists", aka anyone that doesn't agree with them, but none of them actually know how to fight or organize

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Can we at least admit that comics (including actual political comics) and comic writers are not intelligent or mature enough to tackle political in a tasteful and neutral manner?

>>91918917
when they dont realize that they are their own enemies

>>91915948
Not to mention it used to be that the people who got easily offended and demanded censorship were the conservative Christian soccer moms while the liberals were pro-freedom of expression/anti-censorship. Now conservatives are anti-censorship and liberals are the easily offended ones demanding censorship and boycotts of things they deem objectionable.

What the fuck happened?

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now!

>>91920126
The best part though was that the fucking Juggernaut was also crying. The same Juggernaut who attacked the goddamn World Trade Center before 9/11 was a thing.

>>91916196
That depends on if Furie gets his TV show or not.

>>91920239
I only briefly glanced at it. I'd call it somewhat pro obama. You're generally mapping pop political figures with figures in a Conan epic, so Barack=Conan, Cheney = Rathamnon, Palin= Red Sonia, There was also a Fox news host, and I think hillary was a corrupt evil queen, if I remember correctly. More general satire than hard politics.

>>91920299
No. It just means that there's all sorts of garbage out there. Plenty of comics both past and present have done shit well. Flintstones, Prez, Transmetropolitan. V for Vendetta, Watchmen and TDKR are all super political, and considered GOAT. Even a light comic like fucking Groo have handled politics well.

I'd also contest that being neutral is a virtue. I think more the problem is that the market for one political mindset is so severely overloaded that it makes shit way too predictable.

>>91920337
Bitches in power will abuse that power. We've known this since at least the Federalist papers.

>>91918060
If they buy it then by definition they read comics.

I buy it. That segment was retarded, yes, but I like the character and the tone of the book.

>>91918068
nice edit

>>91921090
buying isn't reading

>>91918130
One type of frogs that already naturally has the ability to change sex. It is concerning but it's not turning frogs gay, nor does it mean it will happen to people.

>>91920140
>mateen was known to have had homosexual relationships
This was never proven, FYI. Some people said it on the news but the FBI in their investigation said there was absolutely no evidence this was true. It really was...fake news

>>91921123
That's a cute word game. You're cute.

>>91921132
>One type of frogs that already naturally has the ability to change sex
You think that everyone would know this by now, thanks to Jurraisc Park.

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>>91915779

>>91921160
>People that buy anime figures by definition hot glue them.
>People that buy stamps by definition lick them.
>People that buy coins by definition place them in vending machines.

>>91921198
You're becoming less cute and more silly anon.

>>91916042
I don't even like Alex Jones, but I fucking hate how the internet is celebrating the fact that he lost custody of his kids. I get that he's a nutjob, but Jesus Christ he's not Hitler. Shit makes me sick.

>>91921226
>I don't understand speculator markets so those who do are silly.

>>91920299
Generally not, but there's a lot of exceptions.

>>91921240
names?

>>91921235
Going this far to argue that you're right about people not reading it when you're talking to someone that read it is silly.

>>91921298
Personally I thought Flintstones comic was pretty fair. It mocked a lot of things from all directions.

Back when I was first starting to read comics I red the marvel twin tower comic with magneto and doom crying like little birches and I thought it was great. Now I knows it makes no sense.

>>91921328
>sample size 1
Yes you're statistically relevant.

>>91920299
As edgy as Ennis can be, I'd say he keeps a pretty fair neutrality when it comes to politics in his comics. Being that he shits on the left and right wing equally.

>>91915710
capitalism, flag, faith, obesity
only lacks guns

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>>91915710
So you hire a woman to shit out some glorified blogposts onto paper so your company looks inclusive and the woman is per-usual a thing with short hair, grandma feminist glasses and bright lipstick.
She writes exactly the kind of garbage you would think she would write and despite low sales keeps making issues because comics are low risk investments and can afford a landfill of rags that serve their PR purposes.

>>91921148
This was more likely wishful thinking from the crowd that equates homo-cide with repressed homosexuality. Or perhaps desperation from CAIR.

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>>91920337
>What the fuck happened?
Marxists, took over the left.

True Liberals are now in hiding/shunned for being "too right wing", it's not exactly a new thing. Marxist have been saying this shit for ever.

The sooner we out these idiots as Marxists/communists the sooner this nightmare ends.

>>91920239
>Woman have no dick
Pro Obama

>>91921184
I don't exactly like Trump as president, but I will never, ever regret the fact of Hillary Clinton losing the election.

>>91921184
god she sounds like such an entitled fuck

>>91922164
Just curious: how do you define the 'true left', and what makes other liberals 'Marxist'?

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>>91921184
I'm still overjoyed she lost, since she was the anointed Clintonite/Blairite candidate who was "supposed" to win, but I can't help be paranoid as time goes on that this is just the spectacle playing tricks on us, getting us to agree to further demands from international capital under the cloak of punchy populism.

>>91915948
Post-Fordism destroys the ability to create anything genuinely new in culture, so we remix the old instead. Forever.

>>91922702
Equality of opportunity vs equality of outcome

True Liberals want the means for everyone to succeed. Marxists want everyone to succeed even the people who repeatedly fail and will drag down people that succeed to the level of the failures.

>>91915710
The art looks good tho...

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>>91918229
>>91918908
The left was decimated in the 80s as the fordist+keynesian economic model collapsed. Since they were built on trade unionism (and generally, in power* during the worst years of oil-price induced stagflation) they took punch after punch in the 80s** before taking power again in the 90s under "modernizers" who had abandoned essentially any real left-wing economic policies (the compromising social democracy of fordism was no longer possible. "market stability" and "flexibility" comes first, even Sweden slowly began privatising state owned enterprises.)

So you got people like Bill Clinton and Tony Blair. Blair in particular pitched as a cultural moderniser. Their economic policies scarcely different from those of their opponents (Blair even held to Conservative spending plans for 3 years), but their rhetoric generally more "modern" (Blair introduced all-female shortlists for candidates, i.e. when choosing who stands for election in an area parties can say "only women may be candidates for our party".) to build a power-base against the old (in all senses of the term) trade unionist bloc.

Obama is perhaps even more representative of this trend, both in terms of demographics and in wasted hope. He failed to challenge the idea that "there is no alternative" to our present economic model, and in doing so he has re-enforced that view. For rust-belt voters in particular, this would seem to finally open up the mindset I've come to myself - if there's no alternative, there's nothing to lose. Vote Trump, vote Le Pen, vote Brexit. The worst that can happen is that things stay the same.

There's a related point I can't really tie in, about hope and the future - for women and minorities, identity politics still holds out an illusion of progress. For the social default, the white male, that's not the case. Progress essentially ended with Apollo.

*Carter began the move to post-fordism though.
**In Australia and NZ it was the "left" parties that started it.

>>91922164
The only way one could unironically believe this while knowing anything at all about marxism would be to conclude that we're being run by accelerationists.

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Honestly what would be any different now had Shillary won? Both the left and right won't admit we were screwed either way.

>>91923412
ok

>>91923289
/pol/ is already on damage controll

>>91922829
Something about that image doesn't roll with me. I feel the impact of 9/11 is mocked/reduced by using it to sell soda

>>91923412
WUT?

>>91915710
Despite everything, it's still a free country. Content that triggers your sensitive feelings is still allowed to get published.

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>>91923535

>>91923589
ground coke zero

>>91923622
Show your patriotism and get three packs for 9 dollars 11 cents. Save 1.03

>>91923066
oh you sad, sad man. You are taking Keynesian economics and applying them to left or right. It was shilled so hard that both bought the bait, and history shows the right bought it more than the left. Not in their rhetoric but in their policies, They borrowed more and leaned on the ideas of Keynesian economics so fucking hard it became their entire economic structure, despite their policies are against it.

I am trying to be bi-partisan here, cause even now that it's been mathematically proven that the errors in keynesian economics make it fundementally flaws, the money makers in wall street don't allow that to be fixed.

>>91921229
I think people think it's justified seening how he believes that Sandy Hook was a hoax

>>91922940
so what in your opinion would be a true liberal idea compared to a marxist one, like an example?

>>91920190
Because Obama said he was a fan of Conan the Barbarian and Spider-Man comics during his first election campaign.

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>>91923797
Blame polarization.

>>91921229
Oh don't you try to play the morality police

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>>91923750
we have the worst of all worlds, the revolutionary parts of keynes were ignored and the "neoclassical synthesis" created.

"Keynesianism" isn't really a unified thing, you've got
>Keynes
Who might as well have been a fucking seer. (His proposals at Breton Woods were basically ignored due to American geopolitical interests, though his signature is still on some of them.)
>Bastard Keynesianism/neo keynesianism
Which we had from 1950-1973ish.
>New Keynesian /New Neoclassical Synthesis
Which we have now, and which is broadly what we've got now.

There are others, of course. Post-Keynesians are the closest to being the actual heirs of Keynes. The right (in the USA) are "Military Keynesians" by coincidence more than anything else. (Post-Keynesians are still amenable to ideas like capital controls that would make """"Keynesians"""" like Krugman ill.)

It's also worth noting as a minor tangent that a lot of the mathematical "proof" underpinning neoclassical economics (and by extension, New Keynesian/NNS economics) is either false or based on plainly insane assumptions. Steve Keen's "Debunking Economics" is a good general overview on that sort of thing.

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>>91920293
>Be Lithuanian
>visit the graves of anti-soviet freedom fighters with normie friends
>they start sieg heiling

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>>91924012
Shoulda punched the nazis in the face

The lefties say violence is okay now

>>91920224
>"Progress is not an illusion, it happens, but it is slow and invariably disappointing. There is always a new tyrant waiting to take over from the old – generally not quite so bad, but still a tyrant. Consequently two viewpoints are always tenable. The one, how can you improve human nature until you have changed the system? The other, what is the use of changing the system before you have improved human nature? They appeal to different individuals, and they probably show a tendency to alternate in point of time. The moralist and the revolutionary are constantly undermining one another."
—George Orwell

>>91918229
>The left-wing inexplicably got taken over by authoritarians and fascists masquerading as anti-fascists.

I actually heard a depressingly plausible hypothesis about this.

Form a mental image of a kid growing up in a super-authoritarian, take-no-prisoners right-wing christian fundamentalist household. Now imagine that kid rebelling against everything mom and dad believe in. Imagine them deciding that they need to fight the good fight for the opposite of what their parents believe in, but their entire personality has been forged in the crucible of that super-authoritarian, no-compromise right-wing household so that's the only approach to conflict resolution they have available to them.

And so as the right-wing Rush Limbaugh assholes of the 1990s have their kids growing to adulthood today, we see the same hard-line assholery on the opposite side of the political spectrum from where it was twenty years ago.

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>>91920293
>>91924012
kek
We're in for a wild fucking ride the next decade. Both Europe and America.
>>91924134
This is really fucking sad because there aren't really any actual nazi aside from internet autism but shit may turn into cry wolf at some point.
>tfw when the west nukes itself while Japan jacks off the drawn females

>>91923922
I'm the person you replied to, but am not am economics expert. I am a physicist so I apologize if this is missing the mark.

There are many versions of Keynesian economics but from my understanding is that they all deal with debt in long term spending. There are problems in the math (that a fucking undergrad found that destroys many of the models used in government (although wall street has moved far beyond that at that point so no matter there)), but I find the main problem is that it seems to consider itself the only game in town. It takes the world as if all economies and goverments play by its rules. Which many don't and why it continually fails in world economics.

Again, not my field of study so I could be missing a lot here, but I have never heard anyone stand up for it in any credible way

>>91924179
>children growing up to spite and gainsay everything their parents stood for.

A tale as old as dirt. The real pressing matter is that millennials cannot be said to have grown up.

>>91923289
We would have bombed Syria and possibly antagonized a foreign country into a nuclear war. I'm so glad that we dodged that bullet.

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>>91924134
Cap told me it was okay to punch Nazis. Are you saying he was wrong? I suppose next you're going to tell me Cap is secretly a fascist or some stupid shit like that.

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>>91923289
>what would be any different now had Shillary won?
Did Hillary even have some sort of economic plan or was her entire campaign just muh vagina? She was agitating Russia as well. Trump was agitating China but that was turned around. You can't fucking say anything would have been better with her no matter who was against her.

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>>91924241
The Battle of Berkely actually has some terrifying connotations for normalfags

Antifa in California has been using violence to silence opposition, even if that opposition merely disagrees with their worldview (sand and logical people)

So a bunch of Trump supporters held a free speech rally to protest Antifa's methods. Antifa was legit burning signs that said free speech. The Free Speech people came in makeshift armor to rebuke the Antifa methods, and it worked stunningly because Antifa is full of cucks that have never been in a real fight
Cops were ordered to stand down by the mayor of Berkely because he has ties to the main Antifa organization and when the Antifa got the shit kicke dout of them there was response wasn't: Maybe we should rethink our methods? No, it was, how do we arm ourselves?
The anti-facists want to rally around fucking guns and combat training in California
That is fucking terrifying because it's only gonna call for an equal response

>>91924583
Their response was*

>>91924511
>I suppose next you're going to tell me Cap is secretly a fascist or some stupid shit like that.
O, you cheeky little Anon.

>>91923797
Well sandy hook its one of those events that the more you check it, the more stuff youll realize thats doesnt fit the narrative that the mainstream media gives.

Theres alot of crazy shit surrounding that event

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>>91924583
Another thing is that antiantifa are now chanting during the protest shit like "free helicopter ride" and "auschwitz". I don't know if they are memeing, trying to trigger antifa or have gone down that path. /pol/ is pretty fucking mainstream at this point.

>>91924389
I think the anon was making the point that the manner in which the child rebels is shaped by the style of their upbringing, which was staunchly authoritarian

>>91924547
>Did Hillary even have some sort of economic plan
Yes, you would have known about it if your media knew how to do their job.

>>91924547
What was Trumps purposed plan before the election? Remember, bringing jobs back isn't a plan, it's an idea.

>>91924494
>Syria and possibly antagonized a foreign country into a nuclear war

what world are you living in? This already happened

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>>91924736
They are just as bad as shilling for as they are as bad as shilling against. Good on the fucking retards, no wonder they are dying.

>>91924547
This. She might've had the absolute best plan but I wouldn't have known because she campaigned on two things; not being Trump and being a woman.

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>>91923797
He's a character but people see him as evil for some reason
Some guy punched him in D.C. and was showboating about it at another protest elsewhere about how he fucked up Alex Jones so hard cause he's a facist

But if you look at the clip of the dude punching Jones, the dude sucker punches Jones limply, gets shoved and Alex Jones goes full anime mode and shoves past a group of people pretty hard
Kinda funny really

>>91924731
Pretty sure it's triggering "For the lulz" as the normies would say
Antifa is full of very angry small cucks that get super triggered
Not to mention the only thing close to their leadership is all women so of course they're super angry and bitchy over tiny shit

>>91924773
sarcasm

>>91924695
Certainly, but for now people are going to be joyous over Jones losing custody because of the way they perceived his view of the shooting. An eye for an eye

>>91924773
He was being sarcastic, anon.

>>91924368
I'm more of a historian-bent, I'd take a dip into Keen's book ( http://digamo.free.fr/keen2011.pdf ) if you've got time to kill. He's (iirc) a post Keynesian, and has done some interesting work with modelling the financial sector and instability.

Keynes has been simplified down to "the government should spend money during a recession, cut spending during booms" but his general theory was actually more revolutionary than that. Economists, generally being of a small-c conservative bent, didn't quite like that so tried to make it compatible with the microeconomic theories they were already familiar with. (I forget if Keynes outright said, or just got very close to saying that General Equilibrium is a myth, and that the economy is a constantly unstable system.)

I couldn't run through it mathematically, but I've never seen it as considering itself the only game in town. Certainly, it works better (theoretically?) if you have something like Keynes proposed International Clearing Union to ensure balanced trade between countries (and preventing capital from jumping around to seek higher interest rates), but I don't know if that extrapolates to it not working internationally. (I mean, returning to the simplified model, there's little reason to believe that Britain ploughing investment into construction would suddenly not work with the introduction of international trade.)

The mathematical models used by most government economists are nonsensical , but tracing their progeny to Keynes would be an indirect process. (That's why I'd emphasise the Neoclassical-Synthesis element of it, or basically that "Keynesianism" is an umbrella term.), Post-Keynesians and the like are pretty heterodox, and (at least to my eyes) seem to take a more credible (though still imperfect) view of things.

Not really sure how to tie all that together. Maybe just with a general emphasis that economics isn't so far developed as physics, scientifically speaking. It's all very messy.

>>91924547
>raise taxes on wealthy, maybe including corporate taxes
>Pacific Trade deal
>tighter regulations

>>91924547
Quietly pass TPP and turn all of society into a substanceless socially-liberal corporate hellhole akin to Bill Nye's new show.

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>>91924762
For one the tax plan. It was well known before the election. Encouraging companies to not export they're labor outside the USA. Lowering welfare. Changing Obamacare, ya got me her. Deporting welfare leeches also helps.
>>91924831
So basically more control from the state. So commie tier shit .She probably wanted to increase welfare too.

>>91924919
This could have been society?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wllc5gSc-N8

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>>91924731
>>91924801
>Purposely try to entice antifas into committing acts of violence
>Get surprised when antifas commit acts of violence upon them.
Both sides of this stupid political circus are such fucking jokes.

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>>91925029
>>Purposely try to entice antifas into committing acts of violence
Stop pretending they didn't start it over a democratic election and aren't going to do it anyway.

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>>91924731
Who would have guess that a autistic board from a mongolian basket weabing forum would start being one of the most infuential cultural force in this age.

>>91924938
None of those are plans and he never addressed the negative impacts of any of them.

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>>91925029
Antifa did it first and were planning it the minute Trump won and since they are run by women, the victim narrative comes out once they are opposed
Battle of Berkely was the first major tism that was started by the opposition
Antifa is using violence against normies even

Don't fucking act as if using words justifies violence

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>>91924583
My biggest issue wth antifa, besides the violence of course, is that they take two prevalent flaws of modern liberalism and amp it up to 11. The first is that they act like they are victims in the face of a non-existent system. You have the gall to go out, attack people, and burn shit in the street because "muh hate speech?" Not to mention that a lot of them are just middle class kids going to school on daddy's credit card or whatever. They are not in danger of anything.

The second, and this is the one I have the most trouble with, is their savior complex. Liberals tend to fetishize powerlessness, they think that there is virtue in being disenfranchised. They go out and attack people in defense of those "poor widdle oppressed people of color!!!" They fail to take into consideration that, maybe, just maybe, minorities aren't a monolith. There are certainly issues that are more likely to effect you if you are of a certain race or ethnicity, but the keyword here is "likely." Plus, their actions deny minorities the agency to speak up for themselves as well.

There was this video of a protest in DC. It was typical leftist protest fare, with the masks, setting shit on fire, the like. A young black man who lives in the neighborhood shows up and is naturally mad that they are doing this. He tries to stop them but they keep trying to throw shit in the fire. And then one of the guys says something along the lines of "When they start shooting YOUR people are you gonna tolerate this shit?" And I think that accurately exemplifies this whole savior complex that they have.

>>91925116
???
How are they not plans? Do you think I know/remember the specifics of those?
>negative impacts
Like what?
>never addressed
Who have to be a retard to start talking about negatives while you try to convince people to vote for you.

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>>91923589

I don't see it.

Trump has been alright so far. Not great, but he hasn't done anything bad either.

Antifa is a much, MUCH bigger problem. They're out of control, they're attacking people, and they're opposed to everything the US is supposed to stand for.

>>91923611

He wasn't literally calling for censorship laws you autist.

>>91924819
to be honest you lost me a few times there, but I want to try to reply to a few points. First of all, thanks for the book recommendation.

I agree than Keynes economics has been simplified, the problem is with application. Applying it to investments as an international banker plays by completely different rules than as a government and from what I understand his ideas seem to apply to a government that can play by investment rules banker. Again, I suck at this stuff.

The problem with the math is that there was a major math error early in the calculations that leads to very different numbers. This has been pointed out but largely ignored cause they seem to think it's a rounding error. But in reality it's a calculation error so early in the idea that it propagates though the entire thesis.

But ya, economics is still a very underdeveloped field, especially when compared to physics. I think one of the biggest problems is that there is no one trying new things, either experimentally or theoretically. That's what drives science and economics just want to do the same shit over and over. Kinda like Shakespearian literature or religion

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>>91925232
I wish comic book writers weren't faggots right now

How do you think Cap would deal with this whole situation?

>>91915710
It's weird, this writer's work really isn't bad at all on Mother Panic. Stuff like this election special holds back talent so much that I have to wonder how many potentially decent writers are being wasted on this kind of thing.

>>91918068
>they're

>>91925262
> How do you think Cap would deal with this whole situation?
With marvel the way it is now? Cap would either be painted as the villain for trying to stop Antifa from killing people for believing differently from them, or they'd use him as a mouthpiece for their babbling about "not tolerating intolerance" that the left uses as an excuse to kill people who disagree with them.

>>91925081
>>91925158
Doesn't matter if they "started it" or if they're "going to"
It's a political movement, not a playground fight.

There's a difference between assembling to speak out against something you don't like and assembling to pick a fight with another group of people.

The people who started the rally may have wanted the former, the people who started Sieg Heiling when the antifas showed up to protest wanted the latter.

>>91925192
They are ideas, a plan is structured. Bring back jobs isn't a plan, it's a goal at best. How will you bring them back? How will you deal with the rise in cost for paying American workers ten times as much as foreign workers? How will you deal with companies losing more on mandated insurance?

>>91925262
By murdering Trump like he did with Nixon.
Maybe that's how Fascist Cap is going to end, Nixon comes back from the dead and murders him for being a hypocrite.

>>91925329
> How will you bring them back?
Deport all illegals and build a wall. Build the keystone pipeline. Open up federal land for drilling. All of that will mean more jobs for actual American citizens.

>>91925329
He's gonna build a wall tho anon, and he's gonna make New Mexico pay for it!

>>91925185
>their actions deny minorities the agency to speak up for themselves as well.
This is by far the thing I hate the most, and the thing I wish I could put on fucking billboards and shit: these people are not looking out for minorities as people, they are exploiting them as shields to defend themselves from whatever criticism gets thrown their way.

>>91916831
You know. If Trump had been a time stopping vampire with a Stand I probably would have voted. For him.

>>91925386
None of those will bring new jobs, especially considering that we are looking to have Mexican companies build the hypothetical wall now.

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>>91925322
So the minute someone starts fighting back against a violent political movement, it isn't there fucking fault? You srs nigga?

Not to mention, even if some dumbass wants to do dum nigga shit, the answer shouldn't fucking be VIOLENCE. But if you are perfectly fine with people going around smashing bike locks over people's head for even standing with the opposition, then you have your priorities severely fucking skewed.

The videos of Berkely show Antifa posturing before some call is given for them to start answering questions with violence. When they finally got the shit kicked out of them, they plan to use MORE violence. Berkley wasn't a playground fight, my dude, Berkely was a tonal shift of the American political climate. The Islamic Conquests were begun with fewer belligerents than Berkley. Quit acting like Antifa didn't open this can of worms.

>>91925386
Most illegal immigrants come over by plane and stay on expired visas. Visas would be the proper place to start but given how eager the courts are to deny anything that's unlikely.

>>91925246
>The problem with the math is that there was a major math error early in the calculations that leads to very different numbers. This has been pointed out but largely ignored cause they seem to think it's a rounding error. But in reality it's a calculation error so early in the idea that it propagates though the entire thesis.
I'm interested, do you have a link for what you're talking to? (It's not that I doubt it, it just doesn't ring a bell. The only thing I can think of is the mistake of rounding small non-zero values to zero, which if I'm remembering right happens in supply/demand curves and is something different entirely.)

>>91925507
The job of the courts is to apply the law. Any judge that refuses to do that should be removed. Trump should start with those lawless fucks on the 9th circuit.

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>>91920140

>>91925158
it's a shame the political violence is pure spectacle without any serious goals on either side. the liberal meme of peaceful politics is tiresome.
(actually, it's a shame fascists and antifa LARPers don't unite and beat up liberal centrists, who're the real cause of all problems in the world.)

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>>91916831

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OtLQHUSqgGo

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>>91925507
>Parents immigrated from Mexico
>Took em 10yrs to enter legally
>They're mellow as fuck and don't get involved in politics
>Introduce them to videos of college kids barring other students from entering campus for "undocumented immigrants rights"
>Mother tells me about how the Mexican police love rounding up Central Americas, robbing them, and shipping them back to their countries

To this day, my mother doesn't understand why they fight for people that jobbed the system

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In other news, the killing and toppling of the Gaddafi regime has created a power vacuum allowing the first open slave market in centuries.
America's first Black President started a slave trade.

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how embarrassing

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>>91925617
I predict some serious is gonna go down in the coming months
Just look at one of the Berkley Antifa leaders: Yvette Felarca. Bitch is crazy and recruits children to do her bidding

Only a matter of time before California becomes a fulltime battleground

>>91925658
It's insane how the MSM never called out obongo for just waltzing in and toppling the government of one of the few relatively stable and developed nations in Africa. They gave Bush no end of shit for going into Iraq on far better grounds than obongo had going into Libya.

>>91925603
>tfw this isn't even a strawman at this point

>>91925727
Oh fuck me the Libya intervention makes my blood boil, Libya was not only stable but having a positive effect on its neighbors. Steadily becoming a first world country in the Middle East that isn't owned by a dynasty or entho-xenophobic state.

Then bing-bang-bombed, we came we saw he died, back to fucking cavemen times.

I voted for Hillary but was very aware that she sucks. How do these celebrities convince themselves this is some great voted? She's clearly an evil entitled bitch.

>>91925784
some great woman*

>>91925633
I suppose that's reflective of general ignorance of how the world outside America works excerbated by liberalism. My parents immigrated here too, but from Somalia. Both of them went through all types of shit to get here legally but for the most part they still marvel at the many benefits America has, things many native-born Americans, myself included, take for granted

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>>91925691
>All that fucking porn

>>91925697
> Only a matter of time before California becomes a fulltime battleground
Only people on /pol/ and /r/the_donald think this. The reality is that the Berkley stuff is fairly small time stuff compared to California as a whole. You think what's at most a few hundred people matter in a state of nearly 40 million? Please. This basically is just a playground fight, little more than a sideshow that /pol/ loves to focus on so much that it forgets how small it really is.

>>91925784
>>91925807
Do they seriously do no research before showing up to her rallies?

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>>91925770
All for Greater Israel my friend. Also pipe line monopoly.

>>91925727
>>91925770
> Libya was not only stable
Libya was in the middle of a civil war.

>>91925825
>desperate libshit damage control
more and more sane people are realizing what your type represents, comrade, and they don't like it

>>91923842
Here's a decent video on it by Sargon of Akkad. If you don't like him I can understand, but the video isn't too bad and does a better job of explaining it then I can.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkVwYOYrxWM

>>91925586
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEPd98CbbMk

>>91925825
You don't know how the internet works. A few thousand participants become beholden to hundreds of thousands to millions of people. Of course the state itself is not going to be in any real danger, this is not that form of conflict. The riots have very little impact on California's infrastructure because it sticks to one sole university, but as a proxy battle in the culture war it is very important to both sides to be seen as righteous and "winning".

>>91925865
And who do think started that?
Try using your brain for once, then you might be able to avoid looking completely retarded.

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>>91922702
A true liberal wants to give people the tools to succeed with the understanding that some will succeed and some will fail. A Marxist wants to tear everything and everyone down to the same level to begin with.

>>91925784

Celebrities are by and large vapid and brain-dead. Just look at the video RDJ was involved in. You could cut the self-importance with a knife. And just look at that speech that Meryl Streep got applauded for where she called fucking actors some of the most ostracized people in the world. Millionaires crying because people are sick of their shit. It's unreal.

>>91925697
>I predict some serious is gonna go down in the coming months

Nope. It turns out the alt-right larpers do it better than anti-fa. They starting turning up to the demos with home made shields, body armour and stupid costumes.
They had one 'battle', the alt-right beat the shit out of anti-fa and now anti-fa are refusing to protest and claiming they are winning by not turning up.
Anti-fa are pussies and only interested in larping as revolutionaries when they can beat up people who don't fight back.

>>91925617
>it's a shame the political violence is pure spectacle without any serious goals on either side.

leftypol?

>>91925825
kek because this hasnt happen a couple of time across america by now, each bigger and move violant than the last

>>91923147
That Marxist's have taken over the left?

Look at the universities, look at feminism, look at BLM, Look around.

I'm not saying the democratic party is run by Marxists just the political youth is. Democratic party is still being run by corporatists, Keith Ellison being elected to run the DNC is a prime example of that. The popularity especially among Millennials in marxism is rising.

>>91925492
>So the minute someone starts fighting back against a violent political movement, it isn't there fucking fault? You srs nigga?
No, taunting a violent political group into attacking you gives you a share of the blame.


>Not to mention, even if some dumbass wants to do dum nigga shit, the answer shouldn't fucking be VIOLENCE.
It shouldn't be, but some people (like some of the members of the antifa, for example) will want to use it as one.
Why are you in support of provoking these people into attacking?
Can't you just ignore the antifas, try to have the rally and if they get physical, try to defend yourselves?

>When they finally got the shit kicked out of them, they plan to use MORE violence.
So thanks to the people within the anti-antifa movement that were encouraging violence between the two groups, we can expect an escalation in violence.

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>>91925825
>Islamic Conquests involved far fewer belligerents in the first battles
>Islam is still a major driving force in the region today
>The Mayor of an ENTIRE CITY is for the violent belligerents
>It's just a playground fight

My nigga, Antifa and the oppostion took this as an EXAMPLE
You are delusional if you don't believe the violent atmosphere will not spread
Does that mean violence will be widespread? No, of course not
But the tone of political rallies now is one of antagonizing the opposition.
That is a problem nigga, a big, big fucking problem

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>>91923412
Well, that was incoherent.

>>91925906
The idea that California is going to turn into a warzone because of a few people hitting each other in Berkley is absurd.

> as a proxy battle in the culture war it is very important to both sides to be seen as righteous and "winning".
And each side focuses on the battles that make them look good. The right focuses on some people in Berkley hitting each other. The left focuses on the fact that Trump is floundering about, blocked by both the courts and the GOP's own inability to do anything productive. Antifa is only a big issue on the right, since at the end of the day it's a few petulant idiots with no real power in a nation of millions. Trump, on the other hand, is the President of the United States. What he does or doesn't do is far more important.

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Ironically there have been reports on the scene of actual discussion and debate between sides on Berkeley grounds. No antifa in sight, just regular people talking and taking in each others opinions.

>>91925973
>all this apologism
Just admit you're a libshit piece of garbage and kill yourself

>>91923289

Hillary's response to Syria likely would have been a bit more extreme than bombing a mostly empty airfield.

>>91926078
/pol/ doesn't like to talk about that, so as far as they're concerned it doesn't happen.

>>91926096
Even Twitter is taking notice of their response
>https://twitter.com/joshharkinson/status/858022112354848768

>>91926078
Antifa fucked off, now the other side has nobody to swing bats at, so actual discussion can now occur.

>>91926084
Hillary openly wanted a fucking no-fly zone over Syria, I can think of few ways better to tempt WW3 than the US military shooting down Russian planes.

>>91923535
Eh. /pol/ is full of paid shills from multiple agents who are all shilling each other while everyone else looks on in amusement. At least they stopped using regretfultrumpvoterwojack.jpeg to start every shill thread.

>>91925835
Celebrities very rarely actually give a single fuck about who they're supporting politically or what their policies are, coming out in support of a politician is purely for publicity most of the time.

>>91925968
> That Marxist's have taken over the left?
> I'm not saying the democratic party is run by Marxists just the political youth is.

> Marxists
If you think that there are an appreciable number of Marxists in the US, then you're delusional. Oh, and by the way, wanting things like single-payer healthcare or public funding for universities doesn't make you a Marxist any more than wanting to build highways makes you a Nazi.

>>91926111
>some nu-male faggot writer for mother jones
so literally no one

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>>91925973
>Taunting a group that has been using bike locks as a response to support of their world views

No one provoked them, they started crowding the streets FREELY and were silencing opposing views with force
The minute an opposing rally is even announced, these fuckers came out in droves to "smash the fash"

If you sincerely believe the anti-antifa are escalating the violence then you are a fucking moron
There is a reddit thread RIGHT NOW urging Antifa members to 'commandeer' (aka steal) GUNS to bring to rallies
THAT IS A PROBLEM MY NIGGA

>>91926111
>little over twenty retweets
>fucking MOTHER JONES
Be honest, is that you Josh?
You need a bit more than twenty retweets to start a trend muh dude.

>>91926147
> wanting things like single-payer healthcare or public funding for universities doesn't make you a Marxist
Yes it fucking does you mong.

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So it's pretty much safe to say that good political /co/ media is the exception?
This is a comfy thread and I don't it to be deleted

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>>91926123
>>91923535

/pol/ is pretty much done with Trump after he came out as globalist, many are starting to take the black pill and just give up on it all

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>>91926078
>>91926096
>>91926111
That was the point from the start you retards. Antifa wanted to protest that. Others gathered to stop them.

>>91926149
>>91926157
It was in a Twitter Moment (collections of tweets related to news/trends) so I thought it was slightly relevant. I'll take my leave.

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>>91924583
This shit is going to get out of hand, and it's going to get out of hand quickly.

>>91925029
>Purposely try to enrage regular people by committing acts of violence
>Get surprised when regular people commit acts of violence upon them.

Antifa logic.

>>91925185
All people want is a good excuse to break shit. They don't give a shit about minorities, they're having fun.

>>91926186
Oh my god, the majority of first world countries are Marxist nations. Thank god Ronald Reagan is dead and can't see we lost the Cold War.

>>91926222
Bye Josh.
Hey I'm happy for your trips man.

>>91926151
> There is a reddit thread RIGHT NOW urging Antifa members to 'commandeer' (aka steal) GUNS to bring to rallies
> THAT IS A PROBLEM MY NIGGA
And I've seen threads on /pol/ urging people to kill people like me simply for the circumstances of our birth. Your point?

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>>91926189
>good political /co/ media

there is absolutely no such thing. comics and cartoons are the biggest far left propaganda machines imaginable. What's hilarious is that these retards could've found new allies with disillusioned Trump voters starting to wake up had they not demonized and degraded them for two years.

>>91926206
They are payed shill and 4/pol/ has been shitposted to irrelevance at this point.

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>>91926060
If you honestly think the President has any real fucking power in America in this day and age then you are wholly ignorant and daresay a normie

DC is controlled by the Congress and Senate and Lobbyists representing corporations
The President is smalltime

>>91926265
>The President is smalltime
Just like the forefathers wanted

>>91921184
Man.
Trump isn't exactly the best thing in the world, but I'm glad this bitch got fucking destroyed.
Fuck Hillary Clinton and fuck the DNC.

>>91926259
Why are they automatically shills?
I myself was on the Trump train full-time until recently. Coming out and literally saying "I'M GLOBALIST" is kind of the last straw for anyone who voted for him.

>>91926255
>>>/tumblr/
take your made up shit with you when you leave, fag

>>91926265
> DC is controlled by the Congress and Senate and Lobbyists representing corporations

Congress does basically nothing anymore. Most of the action in DC comes through executive order and regulatory rules, both of which come from the White House.

If you honestly think that the POTUS is smalltime and Antifa is a big deal, then you're an idiot.

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>>91926255
If you think /pol/ posters are worse than normalfags arming themselves then you are a fucking retard

>>91925973
>No, taunting a violent political group into attacking you gives you a share of the blame.

They're not fucking dogs. They're people. Sapient, free thinking people. Anything, ANYTHING they do is their own personal choice. You can't defend yourself from an assault charge by saying "WELL YOUR HONOUR, THAT MAN SAID ME MUM IS SMELLY!"

>>91926255
Literally everyone (including /pol/) knows that /pol/ is >90% composed of edgy 13-year-olds and retarded autists.

>>91926301
>International businessman with dealings in every country
>WHAT THE FUCK WHY IS HE SUDDENLY A GLOBALIST I HAD NO IDEA

You guys are all fucking idiots

>>91926307
> fag
I'm referring to being mixed race, not gay.

>>91926255
I don't think you should take ironic shitposters seriously
I doubt the reddit post is serious too, but given antifa's MO it may actually be real

>>91926147
I think you are understanding me wrong, there are some socialist policies that I think work fine and save money in the long run.

It's the mindset I'm talking about. It's toxic and it has ingrained in a lot of peoples thoughts. However, they think they are still liberal. When you support policies primarily Marxist then you aren't liberal. Understand?

You know what, I'd even concede that they have taken over the left, is a wrong stance, I even contradicted myself saying political youth, and that the democratic party is corpratist.

But I stand by the idea that there is a rather annoyingly loud group of open marxists. That people confuse with Liberals.

>>91926340
>>>/tumblr/
take your made up shit with you when you leave, shitskin

>>91926320
> implying Antifa are normalfags
They're about as close to a normie as a /pol/ack, they're just a different kind of crazy.

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>>91926313
Besides bombin civvies, what can the POTUS do for his people? Watch them be cucked by the Senate?

Antifa is arming themselves while the country watches. Go watch an interview with Yvette Felarca and just watch how fucked Antifa is
Get fucking real

>>91926301
Who could have predicted a man that has businesses in 2 dozen countries be a globalist?

>>91925865
>Libya was in the middle of a civil war.

Fuck that's a great excuse.

Let's go to Switzerland and just start a civil war like we did to Libya. Then we can bomb the ever loving shit out of them because "hey, they were in a civil war."

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>>91922452
>>91922829
When I was positive the two options were down to Hillary or Trump, I supported Hillary, and after a few months of a Trump presidency, I think Hillary would have been a better president even more now than I did in november.

But that said, the one up side to president trump was getting to see this entitled bitch btof

Lets hope Bernie has enough steam in him to make it to 2020

>>91926371
He's already rolled back a bunch of financial, industrial, and environmental regulations.

POTUS is important, the executive branch is one of the only two still functional branches of the federal government. If you think that Yvette Felarca matters more than the motherfucking President of the United States, you're delusional.

>>91926265
The President has more power now than at any time in prior US history you moron.

Half the problems with the way US politics work now are directly caused by the fact that congress has just delegated a shit ton of its powers to the executive branch, completely fucking up the balance of powers.

>>91926367
I can't wait for the anti-antifa to come out with dragon dildoes as weapons

WHAT A GLORIOUS TIME TO BE ALIVE

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>>91926388
>>91926335

>Campaign on a platform of American nationalism
>talks about no longer answering the false call of globalism
>dude im globalist lmao

>>91926398
sounds like a fun way to spend a weekend

>>91924511
And I'm guessing you're the one who decides who is a Nazi and who isn't.

>people unironically using the word "antifa"
Thanks for the sibboleth

>>91926349
There was a mosque shooting in Canada started from a thread on /pol/. Killed more people than Antifa ever has. I don't take /pol/ very seriously, but I take them more seriously than reddit.

>>91926080
Sure
As long as you admit that you don't actually want a solution to the problem and you just want both sides to keep hitting each other so that you can continue feeding your victim complex.

>>91926151
>No one provoked them
According to >>91924731 and >>91924801 that's not the case.
Both sides have a hand in escalating the violence, meaning both sides are at fault.
Why couldn't they have just held the rally while ignoring the antifas until they became physical, instead of purposely trying to incite a riot?
Just because the antifa are acting like absolute savages, doesn't mean the other side is completely absolved of blame.

>>91926324
Of course you can't, it's retarded to attack someone for using words, but people still do it anyways.
But the fact is: what the anti-antifas were doing wasn't to help their movement or to stop the antifas from attacking people.
Just the opposite, it was to piss them off into attacking them.

They shouldn't have tried to incite them.
They should have just ignored the antifas, held their rally and defended themselves when the bikelocks come in.

>>91926430
I didn;t say Felarca was more powerful you cunt. I said she was dangerous. Not to mention our POTUS is wholly outclassed by the people in his cabinet

I wouldnt be surprised if there was some kind of shadow war going on in the White House right now vying for control

Insofar, they are letting Berkley get out of hand

>>91926469
Isn't that what they are calling themselves?

>>91925910
Gaddafi did by cracking down harder than he should have. He should have played it like the PRC in Hong Kong. Just ride out the protests until eventually they get tired and go back to their lives.

>>91926427
Hillary would have went full Libya on the Assad regime already.
I'm pissed as fuck that the US bombed at all, but at least it was an empty air-strip and not full on invasion.

>>91926485
>They shouldn't have tried to incite them.
>They should have just ignored the antifas, held their rally and defended themselves when the bikelocks come in.

Antifa shouldn't have responded.

That is how our entire fucking legal system works. Unless they're already trying to beat the shit out of you, you can't beat the shit out of them. It's not the fisherman's fault the fish is so fucking stupid it'll kill itself for a goddamn plastic sardine with a hook on the end.

>>91926543
The only time I have ever seen "antifa" used it is by alt-right retards trying to imply that fascism isn't abhorrent.

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>>91926435
>politicians are all lairs
>except my politician

>>91926485
BUT THATS EXACTLY WHAT THEY FUCKING DID YOU CUNT
ANTIFA RALLIES SHOWED UP FIRST
AND ANTIFA BEGAN VIOLENCE

Hard to fucking ignore an entire political movement which uses fucking bike locks FIRST and asks questions NEVER

Go walk down the street with a MAGA hat on in an entire left city and try and enjoy a draft and see how you come out
Protip: You wont

>>91916078
He absolutely did.

>>91926574
>drumpf
>politician

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>>91926427
Fuck off retard. You must a special kind of brain damage to support someone who is alive only on drugs wants to continue Obama's crashing of the economy.
Democrats are falling apart and if Trump's plans work, which mostly they have. He will be re-elected.
>barnie
Socialism doesn't work.
>>91926485
>Why couldn't they have just held the rally while ignoring the antifas until they became physical, instead of purposely trying to incite a riot?
Because antifa are the ones attacking? You are fucking retarded, antifa isnt there for a peaceful protest, they are there to break shit and attack people holding the rally.
Whats so fucking hard to grasp at the fact that agitating them isn't factor because they already have that in mind.
>>91926560
They call themselves antifa. Because, you know, Trump is a fashist.

>>91926435
>get conned by an orangutan
>try to rationalize your way out of it

>>91926497
> Not to mention our POTUS is wholly outclassed by the people in his cabinet
Those people still need to please Trump in order to keep their positions. That shadow war in the White House? It mainly has to do with jockeying for Trump's favor, because that's what you need in order to gain power.

The entire "oh the POTUS doesn't matter" thing is ignorant nonsense. The President matters a lot, both in foreign policy and domestically. He certainly matters a lot more than some idiots hitting each other in Berkley.

>>91926427
Bernie is a senile retard who literally answers questions like "how would you fix this problem caused by the government being fucking incompetent?" with "well we definitely should have had more government, and also wall street is fucking the worst"

He's the worst mix of stupid and popular and can only result in bad things.

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>>91926596
>person running for a political position
>not a politician

>>91926611
>You must a special kind of brain damage to support someone who is alive only on drugs wants to continue Obama's crashing of the economy.
> if Trump's plans work, which mostly they have

Trump supporters are deeply disconnected from objective reality.

>>91924731
>Want to start a revolution
>Get surprised when people actually respond
Wow. It's really uncalled for and rude.

>>91926631
He doesn't answer questions like that.

>>91923589
It was a little too on-the-nose when the brown guy who bought some Coke Zero pulled from the middle.

>>91926560
Their actual name is Antifa you fucking idiot.

And it's funny because they're even more fascist than the people they call fascists. If you're attacking rallies simply because they espouse a viewpoint you don't like, you're the fucking fascist. They also defend destroying businesses and breaking shit just because they want to SMASH THE FASH

Well maybe you fucks should look up Kristallnacht, and see another group of people who thought that was an appropriate response to silencing opposition.

>>91926673
An interviewer asked him about the Flint water crisis whether that could be seen as an example of government incompetence and he literally said "lol yeah I bet wall street could do better lmao" (obviously I'm paraphrasing but he really did deflect that stupidly),

>>91926715
See you're paraphrasing so I can't take what you're saying seriously. Post the video, let's see how it really went.

>>91926687
Shouldn't you be white knighting for Islam somewhere honey? Islamophobia isn't gonna censor itself.

>>91926611
>Democrats are falling apart and if Trump's plans work, which mostly they have. He will be re-elected.
Which plans have actually worked? He failed to repeal obamacare, he failed to get his wall, his travel ban got blocked by the courts, defunding sanctuary cities got blocked by the courts.

Pretty much the only thing he has successfully done is rolling back regulations on wall street and on industry dumping and drilling.

>>91926699
Tolerance of intolerance is not tolerance, but cowardice.

"But it is not enough for me to stand before you tonight and condemn riots. It would be morally irresponsible for me to do that without, at the same time, condemning the contingent, intolerable conditions that exist in our society. These conditions are the things that cause individuals to feel that they have no other alternative than to engage in violent rebellions to get attention. And I must say tonight that a riot is the language of the unheard. And what is it America has failed to hear?...It has failed to hear that the promises of freedom and justice have not been met. And it has failed to hear that large segments of white society are more concerned about tranquility and the status quo than about justice and humanity."
-MLK

>>91926687
I don't know. People like Peter Jefferson and Ben Shapiro don't really have "cunt, hateful views".

>>91926559
>>91926577
>>91926611
You keep missing the point.

What the antifa did was/is incredibly stupid and unforgivable.
The idiots that were yelling shit like "Aushwitz" and "Free helicopter ride" was not helping the problem.


What's so fucking hard to grasp that insulting the antifas was a completely pointless action and only insured that the rally was going to end with violence?

>>91926739
I'm paraphrasing because I don't remember which town hall it was from to find it.

>>91915710
because cancer is contagious.

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>>91926766
>>91926766
>Peter Jefferson
I mean, Jordan Peterson.

>>91926715
Flint was caused by a republican governor's appointee being more interested in cutting costs than providing services like safe drinking water. It's a case study in the stupidity of the GOP's mindless desire for cuts to everything but the military.

>>91926779
I posit that your interpretation of events was biased.

>>91926687
>They this, but really they mean this which I project on to them
Fuck off and shill for Islam more so they can rape and kill you later.

>>91915710
comics have a had a liberal bent since like the late 60s but nowadays any semblance of subtlety is chucked out the window.

>>91926766
Ben Shapiro is a retard.

>>91926841
Why?

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>>91926820
>I love the liberals are getting violent against stupid racist whities
>Fuck those republicans that promoting violence, discrimination, and hate
Is this a parody?

>>91916831
oh shit I forgot about that.
How the hell did I forget about that!

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>>91926743
I have the same problems I have with Islam as I have with the republicans and american christianism since I'm not retarded like you.
Also you didn't gave me a counterpoint, just an insult, like I'm doing right now but at least I have a point and you don't.

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>>91926645
Oh boy name calling.
Hillary supporters are deeply disconnected from objective reality.
Do you know the depth increase under Obama? Do you know the amount of jobs lost the were replaced by par time jobs and counted as proper jobs?
Do you know about Trump's ICE and literal fucking ghost towns? Do you know about the administration cuts? Do you know about the tax reform? The wall is still in progress i still don't get where you get the bullshit idea it isn't happening. Border wall doesnt appear. Not to mention a bunch of deals his made.
>>91926745
you too

>>91926745
> Pretty much the only thing he has successfully done is rolling back regulations on wall street and on industry dumping and drilling.
Yes, and? Those are successes. Getting rid of the regulations that cause the financial crisis and getting rid of regulation that strangles US industry are both very good things.

>>91926761
Yes, it's easy when you can say they're just intolerant. Anyone who isn't with you is against you. And anyone who disagrees with you is clearly a fascist and needs to be executed.

You people wouldn't know fascism if you saw it, and you can go to your bathroom right now and see it looking back from your goddamn mirror.

And don't you fucking dare use MLK to justify a bunch of white people with savior complexes trying to force their way into black issues and make it all about themselves and their feelgoods you fucking cunt.

>>91926861
That's what good people do, brainlet.
A villain shows up, a hero punches it.
A nation goes fascist, another one fights it for freedom.
You seem to have forgotten what your country stood for.

>>91926745
>745
>> Pretty
So... what you're saying is that we ought to give the president more power to pass legislation and laws pass the courts?

>>91926882
>YOU ARE A FUCKING RETARD
>you don't seem to be connected with reality
>WHY DO YOU INSULT ME I'M LITERALLY SHAKING
this is how you sound, "I'm Silly" and all

>>91926761
Except we aren't banning black people from eating at a restaurant because they're black. They aren't being lynched, they're aren't being barred from schools. We don't have anything of the like occurring right now. Relatively speaking we're at a pretty good place. There is certainly room for improvement but conditions are not bad enough to justify a bunch of rich liberals setting shit on fire

>>91926907
>A villain
Why are liberals unable to actually think like adults? Their heads are stuck in comics books and video games and prevent them from seeing the world as it is.

>>91926928
I'm saying we should get a president who isn't mentally a third grader, which is what he described himself as. Maybe then we could have a president who would actually do something useful.

>>91926427
>There are still Bern-victims.
He sold you out to buy a third house, so he could be even more hypocritical when he bitches about people having more than others.

>>91920140
>ALAUHA AKCBARA!!!!
>Batman: there are no answers. What he mean by dis?

top fucking kek.

>>91926821
Fuck here, I found it

https://twitter.com/MashableNews/status/706648756373086208/video/1

Anderson Cooper asked a valid question, "Why should people who are being literally poisoned by government incompetence believe that more and bigger government is the answer?" and he deflected with sarcasm to score points with the occupy wall st crowd.

Regardless of anyone's personal opinion on what the right answer to that question might be, Bernie responded like a child with a non-answer.

>>91926959
you don't understand the irony of your words and this is alright as soon as you shot yourself in the head
and yes, people who want discrimination, to take from the poor and to only get richer at the expense of others are villains, objevtively speaking

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>>91918068
kek

>>91926973
Find me the quote or gtfo.

>>91926761
>Using a Communist to defend Fascists.
MLK wanted everything that destroyed the Black society.

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>>91926761
You fucking cunt, you motherfucker. How dare you use MLK to justify a bunch of middle-upper class college kids playing pretend freedom fighters.
You want a real fucking riot? Tune in to the shit happening in Venezuela, where people are literally eating dogs off the street because their government is a piece of shit.
That's a REALLY GOOD reason to riot.

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>>91927018
When are you going to start fighting Islam then?

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>>91926907
Where are these fashists? Do you actually believe antifa are attacking fachists?
>>91926944
u ok?
>>91926687
>Don't adress problems because they hurt my feelings.
Also people haven't been saying that shit in a long time and everyone condemned them for doing so. But you people still cry wolf.

>>91926959
trump is literally poisoning water to promote an industry for coal miners that don't exist in this century.

>>91926976
> Bernie bought a house!
So?

I mean, it's a decent house, but nothing to throw a fit about. The idea that people should be able to have a comfortable retirement isn't controversial on the left. The left gave us social security and medicare, after all.

>>91921445
They were crying because for all they're amazing powers, they were beat out by fuckers with box cutters.
As a villain, that just kills your confidence and rep.

>>91927063
>Poisoning water to promote coal minders
What? Find me the source on this because this doesn't make much sense at all.