Why does /co/ like this shit but hate Lady Thor and Rihanna Williams?

>>91880972
fuck off

cuz lady thor stole that fucking hammer and Ri's hair can't fit in that damn helmet

>>91880972
Cause it made sense to make X-23 Wolverine.

>>91880972
Because she was a character that had gained a devoted fanbase before taking over the mantle. She "earned it." Is it still kind of a gimmick? Sure, but not much moreso than Dick becoming Batman. Marvel didn't just come from on high and say "we need a Wolverine with boobs, make one up and throw away Logan."

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>>91880972
because of shit like this.

>>91881012
>hair
>helmet
>literally 1/4 of all masked Marvel heroes.

I'm not saying the diversity quota isn't real, but seriously? Hair and masks and helmet have bee a problem for a longer time than this.

>>91881024
/thread

>>91880972
/co/ h8 Laura, is just popular now because Logan but isn't as popular as Wanda or Carol, she is not even at Kamala lv

>>91881062
desu that last one was def a joke. Ri I buy more than Thor cuz at least Tony passed it on (sorta).

Lady Thor literally takes the hammer from an unwilling Thor. SO i guess being progressive means taking away from unwilling others instead of peaceful transition??

First, they sold her character to the fans in X men evolution, and got support there. And established her in NYX, and a supporting character in the regular X men book, which gave her a fanbase.

>>91881062
>but seriously?
Of course fucking not. Is this your first ride on the cock carousel?

>>91881129
You're correct. You should stick to english, but you're correct.

>>91881024
This, her origin story was a great stand alone story and she gained a following from that rather than being shoe-horned in.

>>91881024
X-23 has barely any characterization other than being a prostitute though. She's basically on nobody level.

>>91881169
you should see my Portuguese, that's bad

Daken should've been brought back to take up the mantle (again) but for real this time

>>91881193
>>91881231
I have officially found the two most retarded people on 4chan.

my biggest problem with ANW is she's just wearing Logan's 90s costume. She's been her own character for years, she deserves a unique costume

>>91880972
I don't like it. I just don't hate it as much.
I don't like it because Laura sound like the same quippy action girl as all the others now, but that's mostly Bendis fault and predates her being Wolverine.
I don't hate it as much because the series isn't constantly shitting on the predecessor and because Laura already existed and had a lot of development beforehand.

>>91881052
Bull shit as it was that was almost 3 years ago, how bout something new because so far the comic is all good

>>91880972
because not everything is culture war bullshit

>>91881193
The fuck? Have you only ever read NYX? Cause you are waaaaay behind the times

>>91881652
Care to explain why you think that?

Not them, I'm actually curious what your thoughts are on X-23, I know jack shit about her

>>91881024
THIS!

>>91881720
She just got one, though!

>>91880972
>long established, popular-ish character
>respectful transition of legacy
>obvious legacy candidate
>at worst inoffensive book
>no agenda-pushing nonsense at the expense of characterisation
>actually does something that points to themes of the mantle in general

I haven't bothered with Ironheart, but Jane's Thor run sucks balls on every level.
Starting with taking Thor's name away from him. Unnecessary as hell.
The retarded cancer thing that goes nowhere and defies logic. She is just torturing herself for no reason!
Everybody is so disgustingly supportive of her and they act like she just graduated or something.
She's a stranger to them, ffs!
The hamfisted Odin=patriarchy undertones. He is vilified for not liking her. Laughable!
And somehow a huge war manages to just play second fiddle to her ego trip.
Not to mention Jane was the single worst candidate on a long, long list and the reveal teasing for half a year ruined the pacing of the entire arc for a completely unsurprising dud.
A dozen warrior women around Thor and they go with the medic girlfriend?
He has two sisters and a shape-shifting brother, a sometimes-lover of prominence in Sif, several named valkyries, Storm who wielded the hammer before, the agent they even teased, any number of space-faring heroine with an excuse to be on the moon!
But no, cancer girl! Pity is a great motivator to buy comics.

>>91881848
>Jane's Thor run sucks balls on every level.
the art's nice at least

>>91881874
You are right, mostly. Every level of writing, then.
Still hate pube-face Loki, but the art is far beyond the writing.
For what I read, at least. Hard to keep reading something you loathe.

>>91881720
Her costume before then was a sports bra and pants.

>>91881845
Aye. Her old colors back. And armor plating because Gabby insisted.

>>91882006
I quite like the new colors. And it's always nice hearing some actual thought being put into the costume itself.

>>91881848
>I haven't bothered with Ironheart,
Ironheart has every problem bendis had with Miles, but magnified.

>>91881848
>>91881874
>>91881929

I love Jane Thor, there I said it, fight me. Seriously though, I feel that the book has greatly improved over the years especially after the shitty events Marvel kept forcing her in. I am so happy this latest arc has allowed her to be more heroic instead of fighting internet trolls. Still I know i am alone but i just needed to say its gotten better since the whole Creed dibacal.

>>91881817

X-23 has had a pretty long history at this point and she was only a prostitute in NYX, Draken is a socipathic murderer with a soft spot for family and father issues, but hey he cried once so lets ignore everything hes done since.

>>91882326
I'm glad to see some people appreciate Jane Thor. I don't read Thor normally, so I don't find this new idea intrigues me enough to try it.

>>91882179
>And it's always nice hearing some actual thought being put into the costume itself.
There is no reason for armor plating. Healing Factor. Wolverine had armor plating at one point because his healing factor was burnt out. So much so that he had to have slap on claws instead of snkting his own.

>>91882417
No, the point is that healing takes time. If she minimizes the amount of healing necessary, she can get more done, save more people. Also, getting shot isn't fun.

>>91880972

It's not necessarily /co/ that has a problem with them.
There's shitposters and shillposters who are just attacking Marvel for everything and anything.
You can spot them by their hypocrisy and complete lack of any substance to their arguments.
There's /pol/ flamewarriors, neo-Nazis, and kneejerk misogynists spreading as much spite and hate as they can before a mod bans them.
You can spot them because they're always using off-topic /pol/ buzzwords and nasty sloganeering to make their hatespeech arguments.
And there's casuals and /tv/ who show up to expose their utter and complete ignorance about the topic they wish to argue about.
You can spot them because they will premise their argument on flat-out wrong information that they've heard from a bad source, or sometimes just complain that a character isn't exactly like they were ten years ago, when they last noticed them.

Actual anons from /co/ can usually be spotted by their posts referencing scenes and plotpoints from the actual media. They may not always like the character or the story, but they can always say why in a manner that expresses fondness for the source material.

(and FYI: lots of posters do hate on Laura)

>>91880972
I thought waifufags hated her as Wolverine cause MUH PERSONALITY

>>91882412
Skip to The Mighty Thor, the 2014 was just a "Who is Thor" arc. Wiki the important parts that way you skip the cringy stuff

>>91882440
Really? Because she recovered from a full blast from Hazmat in like an hour. Then again, AA/Hopeless and different writers determining different healing factor speeds.Just like Logan.

>>91882485
They love their Emo girls

>>91882326
I don't think there's anything wrong with Daken. The only real problems surrounding him are the fans trying to pretend hes some antihero like Jason the Red Hood.
Daken is a true to the core cowardly sociopathic villain, and I love him for that.

>>91881024
Feminists BTFO.

>>91882440
>getting shot isn't fun.
It should not reach a point where this needs to be pointed out.

As others have said, it really just boils down to the fact that people liked Laura and she has been around enough to be known and liked. Compare her to jane and riri jane one of the weaker love interest for thor that to my knowledge nobody cared about her replacing thor in a poorly done way and riri a completely new character that comes off as a gimic replacing tony in a poorly done way coming off of civil war 2

>>91882539
Well argued. I am completely convinced my your logic.

>>91880972
Wow, it's almost like comics fans don't like characters that take up established mantle without merit, rather than them not liking them because they are diverse

Really gets those neurons firing

>>91881763
The point it's she exists because shit reasons, and most of the starting issues where just pushing feminism on every chance it can
even if her comic its decent lately, a lot of people care more about how and why a character is created, and Janethor was just pandering to sjw.

>>91882537
Nah. Daken had its chance and it ended. He drowned in a pool of piss and it was fitting.

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>>91882485
There was a whole section of her fanbase that were infatuated with the victimized shell-shocked post-trauma never-speaks Laura that only wanted to follow orders because that's all she had ever known.
Granted, it's sickening to see her go from that straight into happy young woman superhero who smiles, but she had to develop as a character past her initial introverted personality.
Though I myself would have liked her to become more Loganish given how she's a clone and all. You sure as fuck don't see OldManLogan participating in impromptu dance parties.

>>91882667
Nice English.

>>91882735
He was revived though and now is just running around with one arm

>>91882684
What one are you talking about?
The female character that is the literal clone of the original, with the exact same powers and same basic origin story?
The female character that worked as a doctor alongside her predecessor, and previously established herself as courageous and worthy of a god's respect when she was completely powerless?
The female character who shares Tony Stark's single inherent super-ability of genius-level intellect and propensity to tinker with engineering as an expression of said genius?

These are the literally identical merits of the originals. Or did you think there was something else? Some other (maybe penis-shaped) quality that defines a superhero in your mind?
Don't post in complete ignorance of the canon. It wastes everyone's time.

(and before you post it, they aren't the first replacements, or the first to share those origins)

I don't. I've hated for her a long ass time but they keep pushing her. Wolverine works because you can pair him with a young girl and have the character clashes. But when wolverine is the young girl it's just boring and angsty.

I don't really like this. I think it's a boring book.
It's just not as awful as the other two, so it gets a pass.

>>91883259
Wasn't that temporary? because of that stupid "healing-factor vampire" they created as the villain just for that poorly written and entirely forgettable series.

I'm pretty sure the arm (and I think an eye too) eventually started growing back.

>>91883382
Characters are not widgets. Some characters make sense to inherit a legacy. Some do not. Possessing one virtue does not mean you possess all virtues. The argument being made is NOT that Riri and Jane are "bad" characters, but that the stories in which they inherit their legacies do not convince the majority of the audience that they are suited to the role.

>>91882783
Thing is, there is actually no reason she should not be able to normalise to a degree.
Irrespective of genes, a young woman is not an old man. And should not act like one. And he saw and things she did not do. Yeah, she's got her own baggage, but it doesn't compare to this wreck of a man.
I still find her rather taciturn and focused, especially when on edge. Gabby's bubbly personality highlights that, I think.
Yeah, it's a bit unintuitive if you knew that mechanical killing machine, but there really are things sane young women tend to do when they are with their sister/daughter/twin-from-another-badge and wish to get some enjoyment out of life.
I would argue that ANW is not so much turning Laura completely around as it is dialing her back to sane levels in her behavior which is a radical shift only insofar as she was very much not acting sane before.
Which is obviously a mistake with comic readers who are used to cartoonish exaggerations in behavior.

>>91883382
>These are the literally identical merits of the originals
People aren't talking about in-universe merits. I could make up a character that has an accomplishments sheet a mile long; that doesn't make them good. What people mean is that they haven't earned the mantle in our universe. Basically what >>91881024 said

>>91883589
It is a crap book, but that's not because of the character, it's because of bad writing.
She's had good stories in the past.

>>91883711
Okay, let's discuss the fan's perceptions of the characters:

Wolverine isn't dead, we all know it. We all know he's coming back. We (should) also know that they've done this "Logan's dead!" story before. But let's also face an ugly truth here, the character was overexposed. Marvel was risking fans becoming sick and tired of him even before he ever joined The Avengers.
This is a needed cooling off period and opportunity to expose Laura to readers that don't keep up with X-books. It almost has nothing to do with worthiness in this case.
As for (guy)Thor, there's a character who's still around. If someone's complaining about him being "replaced" that just means that they don't care enough about him to read his current stories. Those "fans" just want machismo power-porn, and Thor wasn't supposed to be about that. If the only merit he ever represented was being a powerful male then why shouldn't the hammer go to HydraCap?
And the fan's perceptions of Tony... Oh, how quickly they forget! Stark was not being respected by the fans as anything special until he coma-"died" and *GASP* a black girl was portrayed as being just as qualified to fly around in super-armor. It's not as if that was ever an irreplaceable skill.

>>91884373
I completely agree with your reasoning on Wolverine. As I said before, I've not read Thor, so I don't know enough about the situation to judge. However, Iron Man was and is the most popular Avenger due to RDJ, so I really don't agree that he wasn't respected.

>>91884495
Comicbook Stark tends to be hated which is why he was never very popular until RDJ and the MCU. Even then comicbook stark is now just a lazy rip-off of Rob, with none of his charisma.

>>91884495
Oh, come on.
Look at Tony's last few years:
The guy who tried to kill the Phoenix (mutantkind's last "Hope") in AvX.
Turned evil in that Axis storyline.
A planet-killing Illuminati criminal conspirator in that SecretWars lead-in.
Then post-SecretWars he goes back to being classic douchebag Tony without any explanation how, not that there was much of a difference.
And finally he manages to still sound like the asshole in an ethical debate with a totalitarian Carol.
Getting his coma on was the most sympathetic thing he's done recently.
Every fan knows he's an ass. I'm not mischaracterizing that. He's 100% an ass.

>>91885950
Hmm. I avoid events, so I was thinking more of his solo title.

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>>91880972
Ugh, /co/ truly has shit taste if they like Cloneverine. How has no one called child protection services and animal control on this illegal alien.

It has no birth records, no nationality, but decides to hide out in a dead drunk's safe house with a child she did not legally adopt, and a wild, hostile animal.

No where in New York is there zoning for wolverines. The Purifiers can't kill this shithead fast enough.

Clucking my tongue in disapproval, while drinking Bolly.

Laura existed as a multidimensional character years before taking up the mantle.

>>91882783
There's nothing wrong with being stoic or an introvert though. She wasn't in her solo. She had emotions, she moved past the "Rei Ayanami" archetype, she just wasn't a fucking valley girl.

Her personality change was almost entirely a result of Bendis being unable to write more than one character voice and that's why it's so infuriating to see it defended. It wasn't organic; it wasn't a development over time; it was just the sudden and abrupt shift as a result of a bad writer.

because the later were done in such a hamfisted manner that it made Tim Buckley look like Shakespeare in comparison.

>>91880972
Because Laura was already a well-established character, and Wolverine is basically her father. While it's kind of gimmicky for her to use his code name in Logan's absence, like >>91881024 said it's not really different from Dick being Batman while Bruce was "dead".

That's a much more sensible "legacy" situation than a random Mary Sue making her own copy of the Iron Man armor and then having Tony (who's always been incredibly possessive of his Iron Man tech) endorse Iron-Sue as his protege instead of taking it away from her.

If it had been something like Riri creating a powered armor on her own rather than stealing Tony's tech and copying it, and he was impressed enough that he took her in as a protege and it was only several years later (from readers' perspective) that Tony gets incapacitated and she takes over for him, that would've gone over better. At least assuming Riri had been a well-written character in the interim and already attracted a following before being declared Tony's successor.

>>91886112
That's going to be a problem if you like Marvel.
All the biggest character developments in the past twenty years have happened in events.
Dr. DOOM's reformation.
The fate of Reed Richards.
Cap's re-youth-ifying.
Everything Scarlett Witch.
Definitely everything X-Men.

Events are always about changing status quo.
You're missing a lot.

>>91886806
Bendis didn't write Valley-Girl Laura. He wrote her in All-New X-Men, she didn't turn into a mutant bimbo until Bendis left the X-Men books.
Stop blaming him for everything bad other writers do. Accountability is losing all meaning.

>>91881763
>she who bore you best
>like it or not she's not going anywhere
>able to fight Odin in any capacity
>lackluster reveal
>gorr is right

All that just taints the comic and makes it annoying to read. I gave up after a hand full of issues but still check an issue here and there but I personally don't care for her at all.

>>91887029
>his code name in Logan's absence
Nah... thats called "clitwashing" stay trendy anon.

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>>91884373
Did you copypaste this out of a clickbait article?
Are you working on your journalism degree?
>*GASP*
>"fans" just want machismo power-porn
>We (should) also know that they've done this
What the hell this board. So fucking pretentious.

>>91887438
Bullshit. I read All New X-men and that's where her Buffy-speak started. At the time I even theorized it was a Laura clone because the colorist got her eye color wrong.

>>91887891
Can you cite the issue?
A vague description of the issue's story and the specific scene would be all I need.
I have my trade collection copies of the Bendis run right next to me right now.

>>91880972
Wrong. I don't like Laura being Wolverine. It just happens to make more sense than Whor or Riri getting their mantles handed to them.

>>91887644
Probably the most misogynistic thing i've read in years congrats

>>91887954
The scene I have in mind is when they're in a weapon x facility or something and Laura tears through them. She's wearing a tank top and I want to say has shorter hair and for some reason her eyes are like blue, blue grey. It was before she got the brown sentai suit. Then she hugs Cyclops in the snow? That may have come a couple issues later tho.

>>91880972
I didn't at first, the story was absolute shit. It introduced more clones and was partially about X-23 having boyfriend drama. It was the worst possible direction to take Laura or a Wolverine book in. And I want to say that was the first six or so issues. I stopped reading it and I think there were Squirrel Girl AND Spider Gwen team ups. WTF, WHAT THE FUCK? When I heard that I thought they're intentionally trying to sink this shit. But I think right after that, even though I didn't find out until a couple of months later that The book took a turn and changed into a Laura and Gabby on the run kind of thing. Some one storytimed it so I read it and it was undeniably better but maybe my expectations were just really low but it's been solid since then. I like it because it improved. Lady Thor falls into the same boat except not quite as good, It was an awful start but is better now, Not really grabbing my interest but not the joke it used to be. Ironheart just isn't good...but maybe that's an isn't good yet.

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>>91888110
At no time in that entire issue does Laura use "Buffy-speak".
Try again.

>>91888515
She's way more talkative there than I could recall her being in a long time. And it only got worse from there.

>>91880972

Buildup.

Anal sex can be great if you take time and lube.

Do you understand?

>>91881152
>Lady Thor literally takes the hammer from an unwilling Thor.

Nnnnnoooo, that is not even anything close to being like what happened.

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>>91888549
I'll grant you that.
But come on, there's a universe of difference between "more talkative" and some bimbo valley girl "Buffy-speak".
For God's sake, her first impulse was to pop claws, make threats, and sprint for the exit.
That would have been iconic Laura if she had gotten away.

>>91885950
>classic douchebag Tony

That's not the classic version. It may be difficult to imagine for you teens and your so-called smart phones and i-tablets and what-have-you, but there was a time when Iron Man was simply a superhero.

>>91881014
most of the actual fans of the character hated the switch it was pretty much a slap in the face for the character that had developed as someone who went on record as not wanting to be wolverine or the bad alternative dakan

>>91887029
Didn't help that they literally had a black, female engineer character with ties to Iron Man in Lila Rhodes but Bendis just had to have his OC instead

>>91881024
>implying people weren't butthurt when characters like Bruce, Cap and Parker were replaced with characters that had been around for a good long while

>>91888711
Tsk ... Tsk ... Tsk ...
Sounds like yet another fan is enabling Tony's alcoholism ...

>"Tony, you used to be more fun to hang around with, you don't have a problem. That's just nonsense those other guys believe."

>>91880972
I'm personally not privy, but I imagine it's because Laura had built up a fanbase of her own beforehand.

>>91888969

Tony hasn't habitually drunk since 1984. Since then, he has drunk twice - the first time was during Fear Itself, and that was Fraction who flanderized the fuck out of Tony, and the second time was New Avengers 23 when the universe was about to be destroyed.

Vor/Tex got drunk while possessing Tony's body.

Superior Iron Man also drank, which means that is the opposite of what Tony would really do.

Bit of an autistic Iron Fan here. As you can understand, my existence has been more or less a series of tortures these last couple of years.

>>91889052
And not being a Tony fan myself, I take great pleasure in pointing and laughing at your obvious pain.

OMG, they're doing A.I. hologram Tonys now. And it looks like one of them is going to turn evil!
Talk about your disgraced legacies.

( Also, I just remembered, you forgot that when Tony sacrificed his sobriety it was as an offering to Odin during Fear Itself. So technically a heroic act. )
But for me, the last nail in his character coffin was when he erased his own brain during Dark Reign. If there's one thing that isn't Tony Stark, it's a dumb Tony Stark.

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>>91880972
I dont like it

I like her more as X23

>>91888694
I'll admit that issue probably wasn't as bad as I remember but I did give it the first full arc and it just felt off to me.

That´s not true.

I also hate ANAD Wolveriness.

>>91888988
Faggots whore lovers? Got you
seriously Wtf with the prostitution background?

>>91880972
Because Laura is cool beans and the writers aren't hung up on PC and neo-feminism.
They're just writing delicious brutal fun stuff.

Thor and Iron Heart however smacks of pandering to current political correct idiocy.

>>91882451
You contrarian sjw piece of shit, most of co hates this bullshit, go the fuck back to tmblr.
>>91880972
You wanna know why? Here we go

Jane:
-gets cancer
-winds up going to asgard for treatment
-DECLINES FREE RISK FREE 100% REMOVAL OF CANCER
-they try to spin it as "strong independant woman"
-Thor becomes unnworthy because of diversity mandate
-the hammer finds retard of the century worthy for no reason
-she then spends most of her run spewing sjw propoganda

Riri Williams:
- created by Bendis, king of shit writing
-she's 13 years old, but already she's amking shit better than Stark did when he first came out back in the day
- War Machine and Pepper pots were killed off/ removed from play to make her seem more special
- immediately she sees Tony and he's just pouring it on about how special and good she is
-you're smarter than I ever could be, I'm going into a coma now
-tony is now her ai while she's ironman
- proceeds to do fuck all

Laura:

-started life in a cartoon
-eventually finds her roots as a character
-slowly built herself up over time
-had several bad characterizations but mostly good
-wolverine is pretty much her dad
- wolverine dies for a bullshit reason
-she takes up his name

Basically what it boils down to is, the other two are hoollow shitty shallow agenda pushing, and were created with nothing but that in mind, and it is overtly apparent in the way their books are written as well as the peopel who created them. Jane was just a bastardization of an old supporting cast memebr of Thors. Laura had years of development, and she didn't start out as pandering bullshit. Her becoming wolverine left a bad taste in some people's mouths because the change came with a wave of racial replacements, so it holds less gravitas than it should've.

>>91889307
she was a victim... of marvel being edgy and "Real"

>>91889349
People like you is why i keep reading this fucking threads. Good job anon. and again I mean it.

Well this thread went to shit fast.
Assholes hate comics, surprise!
Like we needed the reminder?

>>91889409
Your samefag is showing.

Next time don't post as five "different" responders spewing the same exact shit and "agreeing with each other" and all who just so happened to all arrive on the thread all at the same time.
What a random coincidence!

Also, you did the exact same thing on the last X-Men thread. And the one before that. And the one before that.

>>91889199

The concept of 'World's most wanted' was relly stupid, but the execution was pretty good. Pretty much the last arc by Fraction that I found passable. Well, okay, I guess "Stark disassembled' was also not completely terrible.

Still Fraction, though.

Back then, I still thought things could not possibly get worse.

"I forgot" Tony sacrificed his sobriety? You insult me. You insult me, but I forgive you.

>>91889307

Prostitutes actually exist, you know. And they're not a different species or something, they're just people.

Also, Mantis used to be a whore when she was a teenager. It's entirely possible she literally once uttered the phrase "You want sucky sucky? Five dorrah".

>>91889367

What is the suggestion here? That prostitutes don't exist in the Marvel universe or that they should never be superheroes?

>>91889349

Riri is 15 and Pepper Potts is playing an important role in the comic. But otherwise, yeah, that's correct.

>>91889674
>What is the suggestion here?
I think he's just getting across that Laura going from black-ops super assassin to lady of the night seems like something Quesada thought would help tie her into the dour but "real" setting of NYX, but ultimately just seemed contrived. Everyone else had a situation and history that added up, Laura was just turning tricks now

Really she could have just been a taciturn, homeless homicidal enigma in NYC that the others try to avoid, but eventually run into, then have to pacify and gain the trust of to avoid being killed by, and then get into the mind of and help shed old habits and a withdrawn personality to avoid her killing again and drawing problems, but I guess that sort of rehabilitation of the abandoned of society would be a little too "real" for early 2000s Joey Q. Helping a hot hooker get away from her pimp? No problem. Taking in a mentally challenged person? Hold on now.And don't tell me it would be cliché, Laura by virtue of being female Wolverine is cliché

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>>91890007
And while I'm up on this shoebox let me just iron the premise out.

I don't mean some cool lone killer lurking the streets like Jack the Ripper for victims, I mean an actual unkempt, aimless, disturbed person like you'd see shambling around at night and cross the road to stay away from.

Laura could be shown unable to grasp long term life outside the facility and have difficulty communicating her wants and needs to strangers because she was always just silently attended to, as much as Weapon X attends to their subjects anyway, and never taught any skills to foster too much Independence. So now when she gets hungry, smells food and finds someone eating it, she just holds out her hand or tries to take it. When they throw something at her as most would a hobo tailing you, she instinctively gets hostile and takes them down, takes the food and wanders some more unaware of the moral quandaries and limits of what she was condition to do without hesitation or thought.
Never killing necessarily out of anger or joy but like a grizzly bear wandering into human society. It doesn't mean any harm but only knows the one way to live.

Of course one has to consider that interpretations of Laura's origins often suggest she had reservations about what she did at a young age even before she left what with the cutting and catatonia, but that early jump at knowing restraint only created more issues. Like having to use the trigger scent to toggle her killer on and off. Which just gets tired after awhile.

It's been a bumpy road for Snikt Baby.

>>91890007

Killing and fucking are both very primal activities. I like the 'lost animal' vibe.

>Wolverine never became a manwhore because he was too ugly

>>91889506
>Your samefag is showing.
kek, someone else pointing out you're a gibbering retard doesn't meanit's a samefag

>m-muh samefag!
>I CANT BE WRONG TMBLR TOLD ME I WAS ON THE RIGTH OF HISTORY
>REEEEEEEE

>>91889674
>Riri is 15 and Pepper Potts is playing an important role in the comic. But otherwise, yeah, that's correct.
Was this recent? I remembr she fucked off for a while when Stark decided he wanted to fuck MJ after OMD

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>>91890179

Ohhh... it was pretty recent.

And we all just LO-O-O-OVED it.

>>91880972

they're literally just waifufags, thats it, they're no better than gwenpool fags. all of them.

>>91881024
This desu

>>91883589
>>91883870
Are you fucking retarded?

>>91883544
Well you're fucking dumb.

>>91888136
>partially about X-23 having boyfriend drama.
No it wasn't.

>>91889212
>I like her more as X23
If you knew anything about her character, you'd know nearly the entire point of it is not being x23

>>91890073
Sounds great.
Like Sliw Regard of Silent Things. Except with social commentary, a point and not shit.
So a tragedy including a young woman that's not right in the head.
Well, it sounds kinda nice. But right now I don't trust Marvel with subtle tones and female characters.

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>>91889349
See, the problem with Jane becoming Thor is that it shits on her previous motivations. Like you say, she gets the chance to be given a 100% risk free, done in an hour, never coming back cancer treatment. But she declines. Why?

Because she doesn't feel it's right to be able to use her connections i.e that she once fucked Thor, to get around something as serious as cancer. She explains that she feels like it'd be 'cheating', and I believe asks Thor not to cure her cancer, but ALL cancer. Since that can't be done, she turns down the magic cancer cure.

It's dumb, because I bet anyone in that situation would take the cure AND THEN work with Asgard to find a cure for everyone, but at least it's a reason. She stands by that justification, because she feels it wouldn't be fair to everyone else who has cancer, and she believes that a magic cure would come with a price.

The instant Thor's hammer is up for grabs however, we get pic related. Turns out that Jane was sneaking out of her chemotherapy treatments in order to be Thor. A thing which allows her to feel powerful, in charge, and like a fucking superhero. Oh, except that being Thor means her chemo never works. The 'change' to the Thor persona flushes all toxins out of her body, including all those amazing chemotherapy sessions.

Jane goes from saying that she doesn't want anything a normal cancer patient couldn't get, to deciding that maybe magic isn't so bad after all!

>>91893442
Yes. She is also just torturing herself with the chemo for no reason because of this AND killing herself slowly with cancer.
This shot makes no sense. She hamstrings her heroing, her treatment and her moral grandstanding all at once.
She gets no miracle treatment for nobody, no effective treatment for herself and risks dying inbetween heroism.
She also violates the hippocratic oath by doing harm for no gain with her chemos.

>>91893829
While I was writing that, I couldn't decide how her cancer would work.

Changing to Thor flushes toxins from her body, which does away with the latest chemo treatment, and probably a few before that too (just before that shot, she's having one done so that's an entire session wasted).

So does Mjolnir work like Deadpool's healing factor, and restore her to the way she was when she first picked it up? In other words, does each change bring her back to the state she was in just after Original Sin? If so, then the cancer will never progress. She will live a normal life, just...you know, constantly dying of cancer.

It also means that putting herself through chemo - which is an incredibly painful procress - is entirely pointless. Why go through chemo if you can just have your body restored to that of a few months ago? Sure, you've still got cancer, but you've got LESS cancer than you did before the change.

If it doesn't work like that, then why even bother going through chemo at all? The change makes it less than worthless. She's wasting her own time, causing herself pain, wasting the health centers time, and since this is America, I would assume is flushing a boatload of money down the drain for every useless chemo session.

Why ever change back Jane? Why not be cancer free forever?

>>91894318
>Why ever change back Jane?
She has the "must stay in constant contact with hammer or I will change back" thing that Thor used to have with Donald Blake.

>>91894391
Fuckit, just wear that shit on your waist then. Oh wait, no one can know that Thor is now Jane Foster because...reasons?

Only person I imagine caring is Thor/Odinson himself, and that's only because he'd wonder why she turned down his help, only to fucking use magic anyway