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>Hydra Youth Real subtle, Marvel.

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>Hydra Youth
Real subtle, Marvel.
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Bravo!
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But it doesn't say that. It says "Hydra Youth Choir"

lmgtfy.com/?q=youth+choir

Why do I have to put up with your threads, OP? They're so shitty and there's enough /tv/ tier shitposting on the board already. It's storytime day. Please go post something good.
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>>91868213
Im down
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>>91868213
Who is the guy in green?
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>>91868213
Tony can't "get it", he's in a fucking coma, you cunt
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>>91868213
If Marvel doesn't want people to think that Hydra are Nazis, maybe they shouldn't have them do Nazi stuff like concentration camps and "Hydra Youth".
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>>91868453
Joaquin Torres the new Falcon
He had his DNA spliced with Redwing's so he's got bird wings, eyes, and talons, has a psychic connection to Redwing.
And because Redwing is a vampire bird Joaquin's got a vampire healing factor
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>>91868453
The hulk
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>>91868213
>implying Hydra is Nazis
>implying Nazis would allow nignogs, chingchongs, and robos
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>>91868520
>he's got bird wings, eyes, and talons
They should give him a better costume; for one moment I thought he was some kind of disgruntled Pepe.
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Reminder that this is all happening because the guy they didn't like became president.
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>>91868485
AI Tony is running around in Secret Empire. Or maybe it's Tony out of his coma wearing an retro-looking armor, we don't know.
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>>91868562
wasn't Japan their ally?
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>>91868520
>the new Falcon is genetically the old Falcon's falcon

That's fucking stupid.
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>>91868520
Dear Christ it sounds like some autists' fan fiction.
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>>91868507
But it says youth choir. Youth choir. The inference is they're going to be singing their praises. If there is literally a Hydra Youth, prove it by posting that part of the issue.

>>91868671
It sounds like comic books senpai.
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>>91868524
wasnt he, like, dead? and you know... more, american?
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>>91868741
do you read comics

is this where we shit talk The Incredible Hercules
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>>91868741
Its Amadeus Cho.
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>>91868741
Wasn't the Hulk a woman who wouldn't hulk out?
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>>91868213
>subtle
You don't even know what true subtly is.
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>>91868600

The first thing I thought was that they added Machine Man's son, what with those funky eyes.

Come to think of it, that would actually be pretty cool. Even though the "crazy robot offspring" spot is already filled.

Machine Kid? Machine Boy? Machine Lad?
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MARLEL DOES IT AGAIN
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>>91868878

Hydra Carrier with tentacles noice.
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>>91868896
Machine Teen is already taken but I love the rhyme
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>>91868213
>not a single person in that page is white and male
Why can't their movies be like this?
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>>91868878
>Push HYDRA as Nazi 2.0 more than any other Marvel era, who usually treat them more like SPECTRE with outfits
>Be shocked that people get upset when you want them to dress up as HYDRA
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>>91868213
So what happened to the other half of the Champions?
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>>91868878
I see what you mean. The innuendo that Hydra are Nazis in this is so subtle it really is easy to miss it. Amazing storytelling.
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>>91868671
Marvel's been fanfiction since 2000.
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>>91868980
Are we being raided today or something? There are tons of these "haw haw look imma liberal" posts and shit threads up.
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>>91868663
At least is fun stupid and not stupid stupid like all the rest of Sam Wilson Captain America.
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>>91868213
>shit, these legacy heroes have been written as too-popular in-universe and all our go-to plots need them to be mistrusted and hated
>have someone from SHIELD pressure them into going undercover as bad guys so their reputation goes through the mud
every time
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>>91869004
Kamala is busy with the Secret Warriors and saving Inhumie lives
Nova is trapped outside of the planetary defense shield

Cyclops is with the O5?
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>>91868213
I miss old school badguys. I miss when HYDRA was a bunch of henchmen in green outfits making superweapons and recruiting supervillains. It was so much more fun than using them for "muh racism."
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>>91868878
I don't get what this page is trying to say. It's too deep and complex for me to understand.
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>>91869075
>Maybe we should stop writing characters to be super popular right off the gate, I mean, it took Spider-Man years to be liked by the in-universe publ-
>NO
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>>91869082
You're thinking of AIM. From pretty much the earliest appearance in Marvel continuity HYDRA was headed up by Baron Strucker who was literally (unlike Helmut Zemo) a Nazi.
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>>91868213
Who is the girl in the middle?
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>>91869082
>making superweapons and recruiting supervillains.
Didn't they literally just do this? Maybe not the superweapon part.
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>>91868213
Who's the semen demon in orange in the middle?
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>>91868213
Source?
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>>91869308
Probably Nadia.
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>>91868213
>Compliance with an oppressive regime's systems is more effective than active resistance

Exactly the kind of message I would expect from a guy who said Stonewall did nothing to advance LGBT rights
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>>91869341
Secret Empire Uprising preview
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>>91868562
>>implying Nazis would allow nignogs, chingchongs, and robos
they literally did this IRL
>tfw you learn about jewish nazi generals for the first time.
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>>91868562
>Afrika Corps Auxiliaries
>Imperial Japan
>implying no Cyberhitler

Two of those actually existed, and the third only didn't because they were probably too busy inventing ICBMs or trying to summon extradimensional Norse deities.
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>>91868609
Citation needed.
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>>91868609
Secret Empire was planned back when most people were convinced Trump stood no chance.
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>>91869164
Yeah, but they were more "vaguely-Nazi SPECTRE", like how the Serpent Society was "vaguely-KKK SPECTRE", or how AIM was "vaguely-technofascist SPECTRE".
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>>91868562
Its amazing how the neo nazis of /pol/ dont know anything about nazis
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>>91868520
I hope he sticks around, because when you describe it like that it sounds awesome.
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>>91868609
Please be pretending to be retarded.
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>>91868520
>Redwing is a vampire bird

...what the fuck have I missed.
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>>91869164

It's exactly like >>91869714 said. There were Nazis, but it wasn't "Nazi 2.0: The Group Complete with Concentration Camps."

If anything, them just imitating Nazis is kinda stupid since Strucker and Skull were more like "Hitler's ideas were amateur, let's rock EVERYONE's faces."
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>>91869933
Remender's run on Falcon as Cap

Redwing got bitten by a Nazi vampire and got turned.
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>Hawkeye, Tony, the others-- They don't get it
Do they refer to Clint, who is pretty much irrelevant and a terrible example of this since no one in Champions respects him, or the REAL Hawkeye? Also Tony is supposedly in comma.
I fucking hate they're still going with this "nobody understands! so we'll do it on our own!" shit that doesn't even apply here seeing how this is a wide line event and all heroes are fighting HydraCap, not to mention they're fucking assaulting the teen camp which is probably the least problematic division of Hydra kek.
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>>91868655
Even if he is his current status is "still in comma, an AI is piloting the suits" so blaming the AI is fucking dumb.
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>>91870633
It's weird because isn't Clint in Occupy Avengers and dealing with Secret Empire as well?
I know Tony is still running around as an AI piloting the suit
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>>91868663
They should've just turned Redwing human. It'd be less dumb period.
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>>91869195
The autistic Wasp.
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>>91868520
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>>91870767
4chan autistic? or really autistic?
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>>91868980
Because white males are a large part of superhero fandom and want to see themselves portrayed in the media they consume. The comic books are small fry rinky dink operations by comparison so they can afford to test out SJW social engineering there before putting it on the big screen. Fortunately it's been such an utter failure that even the comics are de-diversifying.
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>>91870817
Yes.
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>>91869994
Huh.
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>>91868213
>Hydra
>Subtle
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>>91870837
Why are you so enthusiastic to fall for that shit bait?
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>>91870913
This site is full of r/the_donald users.
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>>91868878
Oh! I get it! They are rounding up Inhumans (a metaphor for Jews and Minorities) and putting them into camps( like the Holocaust). Just like the Nazis did (and the Right also do according to Nick Spencer on twitter).

I haven't seen such Kino since Star Wars ep 3 or the video simulator Gone Home.

Brava! Brava! Brava!
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>>91868453
>>91868520
He's the guy put in place to make it harder to just move Captain Falcon back to regular falcon.

>>91870817
I think both apply here.
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>>91868213
>White Males are the villains
>The Minorities are the good guys
Wow, this really is fiction.
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>>91868520
and an illegal immigrant because marvel really loves to show how progressive they are
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>>91873084
I thought Joaquin wasn't an undocumented immigrant but that he was a coyote who helped people crossing the border by leaving them water and supplies
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>>91873210
so not a criminal bent on changing the united states just a criminal bent on changing the united states.
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>>91868213
Marvel: "Hydra are not Nazi's, are not linked to the Nazi's, are a completely seperate organization with an ancient pre-germanic history and order. "

Also Marvel: "Hydra Youth! Concentration Camps! The Nazis won WW2 and the allies used the cosmic cube to change everything so it looked like they lost!"
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>>91868213
huh, and what does the hydra choir even do? And who is HydraSteve going to trust among these sad fucks. Maybe the wing kid. Cap like guys with stupid wings.
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>>91869474
It didn't. Heavy control/influence of major media plus wall street did that.
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>>91868878
>That texas flag
Fired my synapses tbqh. Very subtle, reminds of Star Wars Episode 7's First order. Took me a while to recognize the Nazi analogue.
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>>91868878
I'm surprised the police aren't in there too.
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>>91868213
How far can they take this?
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>>91868213

God knows we must preserve the subtle nuance that has always characterized Hydra in previous comics.
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>>91868213
No shit. They stopped being subtle after Whor and Absorbing Man.

They should change their name to Virtue-Signaling Comics.

/thread
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>>91868878

I don't get this. Captain america is still Captain America, he would not allow this.
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>>91878540
Steve Rogers is literally now Captain Hydra aka Captain Nazi aka Captain Alt-Right aka Captain Trump. That's the whole point of the shitty event.

He absolutely would.
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>>91878540
>Secret Warriors #1 is a new book launching out of the event. Wil Moss discussed the team and how they’ve come to this conflict and how the book starts after Secret Empire has already begun. The team grows out of the fact that Hydra is rounding up Inhumans into camps. The Secret Warriors will go all over the country in their effort to fight back. “It’s the only Secret Empire book with dinosaurs eating people,” noted D’Lando. The team will be fighting Mr. Hyde, Quake’s father, in issue #4.
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>>91868213
>getting mad that Hydra is an analogy for nazis
I don't understand you anymore, /co/

Is this just /pol/shit tears?
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>>91879125
>getting mad that Hydra is an analogy for nazis
But they aren't. They have absolutely nothing to do with Nazis and absolutely No Nazi behavior. They are totes different. Do you think Marvel would make Steve a rightwing racist facist? Nah. But Hydra totes aren't racist and totes not Facists. And if you think that, you are just delusional.

And don't forget to see Guardians of the Galaxy Vol 2 in Theaters.
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>>91868213
Is that Ms America on the left? Shouldn't she be busy trying to help Carol and the other heroes outside the space wall with her powers?
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>>91868213
They are going to join /r/pol/?
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>>91881119
It's Riri Williams
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>>91868878
>Texas flag
This makes me so mad. Fuck Marvel.
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>>91870711
>They should've just turned Redwing human.
Redwing is a vampire. Not kidding.
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>>91868520
This is why I read fucking comics.
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>>91868779
Wait, hulk is a woman who wont hulk, what comes next? A negro captain America?
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>>91871231
>and the Right also do according to Nick Spencer on twitter
...fucking what? Executive Order 9066, bitch, LMGTFY.
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>>91879319
Movie Hydra is fascist, but not racist.

Same with Cap's Hydra.
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>>91885864
Movie Hydra is Red Skull.
Movie Hydra is more Nazi than the Nazis.

Comic Hydra is fascist, but also Lovecraft-Old-God worshipping soulless evil.
And they don't respect human life or fairness for all, what the fuck makes you think they respect principles of equality?
And HydraCap is all about might makes right and screw the weak, what part of that means there's not going to be oppressed minorities in Cap's Hydraland?
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>>91885864
>fascist
what does that word even mean at this point, though?
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>>91886459
>Comic Hydra is fascist, but also Lovecraft-Old-God worshipping soulless evil.
The Agents of SHIELD show introduced some of that to the MCU. Inb4 TV shows aren't canon.
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>>91868213
Theres never any good Widow porn
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Will there ever be a Marvel version of Swing Kids?
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>>91886532
radical authoritarianism, mobilization of society under a totalitarian one-party state. same as always
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>>91868656
Not really. They had an alliance, but Hitler planned on backstabbing the Japanese after the war.

It didn't help that the Japanese government was an oligarchy of militant generals, brainwashing the country with Japanese Supremacy propoganda.
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>>91868213
At least it's they are fighting a real threat and not gentrification and trade mark laws
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>>91886532
The overuse of hyperbole doesn't change a word's definition.

"Fascist" has a dictionary definition.
It hasn't changed. You can Google it.
Read the Wikipedia page, that's what it still means.
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>>91869994
That just raises further questions!
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>>91887221
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>>91868878
>"Gee, how come white guys aren't reading our blatant indoctrination anymore?"
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>>91887199
but it cheapens it, even more considering the medium. So it gets diluted from the dictionary to the young readers eyes
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>>91868213
Why the hell are all the kids they chose for this mission the protagonists of YA novel about rebelling against authority.
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>>91869933
>...what the fuck have I missed.
the only good FalconCap run.
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>>91868520
That sounds cool actually, but why viridian green?

It looks like he's cosplaying a parrot
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>>91870817
I don't think there is anything medically wrong with her, but she basically lived in a bunker her whole life. So extreme social ineptitude

In other words, 4chan autistic
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>>91868562
>he doesn't know about the free arabian legion
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>>91882603

Are you trying to say Texas isn't full of inbred racists?
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>>91889530
He has a new and modern update to Falcon's original green and gold costume. Not that I'm defending it.
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>>91868520
>Joaquin Torres the new Falcon
Fuck, and I was happy for a moment that someone remembered Reptil.
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>>91869524
>liberals are Nazis
>Nazis are liberals
At last I truly see.
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>>91890559
Was he not killed during Arena?
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>>91887334
>>91868878
>A generic anti-Nazi message is blatant indoctrination

When did you decide to ally yourself with Nazism?
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>>91890645
If by 'generic' you mean 'shitty writing,' then we agree.

But if you mean, 'But we've always treated whites in America like Nazi,' then no. We don't agree.
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>>91886459
>>91879319
>>91868993
>>Push HYDRA as Nazi 2.0 more than any other Marvel era

It's not new. Different facets of Hydra have been depicted thoughout Marvel's lifetime, and being literal Nazis is one of them.

One could argue they are worse than Nazis, what with the retcon about a much more ancient legacy of evildoing.
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>>91869689

And why would have that prevented them from releasing this afterwards as a fuck you if he wouldn't have stood a chance?
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>>91890599
It was vague enough that any writer could easily bring him back if they wanted to if editorial didn't stop them
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>>91890676
Hydra are whites in America?

Whites in America demand concentration camps and wear skull emblems with tentacles?

Whites in America are Nazis?

How is this page an attack on whites in America?
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>>91886459
>what the fuck makes you think they respect principles of equality?
They respect principles of effectiveness
Why would you promote someone based on skin colour instead of competency?

It's real quality, not modern social equality. To each their worth.
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>>91886532
While fascism has specific meanings, it's basically used today as shorthand for "violent authoritarians bullies".

Hence why people think antifa are fascists.

They're not - they just act like them.
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>>91868878
>Texas Flag
Fuck that's low, even for them. On behalf of the state of California, I apologize for this cancer.
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>>91868520
Thats amazing
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>>91893014
>>91882603
I thought the point of there being an american an a texan flag in the basement was that the texans were planning a revolt against the hydra authority.
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>>91868878
inhumans caged by barbed wire? is it their krptonite? i dont get how groups of people who are walking weapons can be rounded up into camps like that, no one going to fly away, teleport out, mind control the guards, melt the fence, freeze the fence, warp reality so the humans are being rounded up. cmon give me fucking something besideds "oh noes we iz caught nothing to be done but stand here and be sad now"
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>>91893531
That seemed like the obvious situation to me.
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>>91868213
This is the world you chose with your leniency
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>>91893606
>Inhumans

That's a Kree and a Skrull right there. (Don't recognize the one in the middle.) Those are aliens, members of races that have repeatedly tried to invade the Earth and subjugate the human race.
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>hydra youth choir
So not only are we going with a hitler youth angle, we're throwing some good old choir boy pedo stuff in as well. Let's take bets on who the priest analog is.
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>>91868878
I can't believe Steve Rogers is a member of Antifa!!!
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>>91893719
Isn't the Left trying to normalize pedophilia?
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>>91879103
would the average joe really know enough to hate the inhmans but not the mutants, espcially if it is being made into some sort of law

"yea lets round up all those inhumans with powers they are too dangerous, mutants are cool though leave them alone for now"
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>>91868520
>bitten by REDwing
>he's green
He looks hideous.
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>>91893855
*I meant half redwing, accidentally put bitten because redwing is a vampire
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>>91893756
Most of the SJW left is embracing the New Puritanism. All sex is problematic, all sex is rape.
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>>91868878
I'm going back to bed.
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>>91893697
is the camp only for kree or skrull?, just assumed since their are normal looking people in the background and the brown boy getting chased that they must be inhumans or something. that or now they are just rounding up brown people for the camps.

Still my point stands dont these people have powers?
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>>91893899
what is this from?
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>>91893964
Skrulls have a race-wide shapshifting power. After multiple Skrull invasions, humans have the technology to detect them. Ordinary Kree have no powers at all.

Both races have superpowered members, but those probably wouldn't be held in openair camps.

The brown boy part is kinda weird, since Hydra Cap - and pre-Nazi Hydra - are explicitly not racist.

Then again, that page also shows them cracking down on Texan separatists, who are generally white.
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>>91869532
I can't help but think this wouldn't be as cool if the Communists were the bad guys.
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>>91894020
fair enough but i will point out there is a guy over the blue guys shoulder with a head like this, if he isnt a telepathic/telekinetic inhuman/mutant il eat my hat.
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>>91868562
>He doesn't know about Mein Furher

Get fuck out my Nazi party you allied scum
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>>91873210
He's also an illegal

a DREAMer
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>>91890719
Tad/pol/es are projecting with IMAX.
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>But, but, but Hydra has never been this Nazi

They were founded by Baron Wolfgang von Strucker, a Hitler fanboy and an actual member of the Nazi party, the fuck did you people expect them to do once they took over the country? hand out cookies? Does anybody even read comics on /co/ or is this /pol/ 's doing?
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>>91868213
Speaking from experience there better be a shitload of Mexicans in that Hydra Youth.

If its all white dudes who look at the gaudy brown guy oddly I'm calling bullshit.
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>>91868609
Yeah, Marvel is like that.
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>>91894467
Von Strucker had a Secret Invasion tie-in where he has a discussion with his personal assistant about why he is no longer a Nazi and why those views were flawed.

It also reveals that HYDRA recruits heavily college campuses.
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>>91868213
Whoever edited this should be drawn and quartered. It should either be "Hydra-Youth Choir" or "Hydra Youth-Choir." Hyphens exist for this exact purpose.
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>>91894020
The black kid has horse feet, he's a mutant/inhuman getting chased down by human supremacists
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>>91896686
Ha! I didn't catch that, and neither did anyone on tumblr.

I guess that's our prejudice shining through - we assume their motivations, that they're being racist about skincolor when it's really about being a mutant.
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