Toonami Ratings for 4/22/17

>>91849767
Family Guy continues to be BTFO by Jack


8:00 Dragon Ball Super 0.55 879 0.40 519
8:30 Bob’s Burgers (r) 0.44 657 0.31 403
9:00 Rick & Morty (r) 0.49 758 0.36 463
9:30 Rick & Morty (r) 0.53 819 0.39 495

10:00 Family Guy (r) 0.69 1120 0.51 660
10:30 Family Guy (r) 0.81 1246 0.57 727

>>91849814
Average comedy reruns


3:30a Bob’s Burgers (r) 419 0.21 264
4:00a Rick & Morty (r) 456 0.23 296
4:30a Rick & Morty (r) 455 0.23 291

5:00a King of the Hill (r) 476 0.23 293
5:30a King of the Hill (r) 520 0.26 338

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>826

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Best

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>yfw you went back to previous episodes and noticed it

>>91849767
>those legs on the right

Oh shit I did the same thing in middle school when I'd run out of paper but the character wasn't finished yet.

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>>91849767
>the newest thing Toonami had ever aired behind Dandy
>popular with normies
>826k

If we make it to 2018 I'll be surprised

Well, this confirmed it, Toonami is dead, and it wasn't jojo itself the raiting was getting worse every week

>>91849923
you can clearly see the edit

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Episode 8. You didn't hear it from me

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>yfw he read your mind

dont worry guys, they just didnt advertise AoT much haha

>hack DeMarco not adding Family Guy reruns to the block
Does he want Toonami to die?

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>>91849767
fucking Attack on Meme killing the block, it's like One Punch Meme never left

>>91849767
>that plummet of viewers when Jack ends

Never won't be funny. Toonami is on its deathbed, say your goodbyes

>>91849767
Arent theses raitings still better then practly everything cn dose

>>91850103
the block should be like:
Family guy
Dragonball
Steven Universe
Other dragonball
Teen Titans Go
AoT
Family Guy
Cowboy Bebop

there, block saved and with the money generated via ads, we should be able to buy Disney and Apple.

>>91850254
It's almost like people have lives and can't stay up into the ungodly hours of the night to watch anime

Jack shouldn't be on this block, he's taking a good timeslot from better shows.

>>91850265
TTG pulls millions effortlessly despite being pretty much all they air

>>91850358
>people can't stay up
>had no issues with this 2013-2015

Keep up those excuses

>>91850358
saturday.

>>91850358
Yes DeMarco, try to justify why Toonami's shitty decisions haven't affected the ratings.

Or would that be Adult Swim's fault?

>>91850209
JOJO SEASON 3 NEXT NIGGER

>>91849767
God damn I didn't think AoT was that big of a FotM flop

Why are people surprised a show at 12:00 AM has less than a million viewers? I bet Jack would pull half a million more viewers if it was aired an hour early (and wasn't up against some popular show)

It's nighttime, people go to sleep.

>>91850544
for how big it was, it got all of 3 days of advertising

>>91850549
Demarco can you please fuck off? Getting millions into 1-1:30 used to be business as usual. Now we can't even get a show at 11:30 over a million. A dub premiere of an allegedly popular series shouldn't being having these issues

So the moral of the story is to quickly capitalize on the popularity of a flavor-of-the-month anime and not just make a 12-episode sequel series three years after the original?

Now I'm scared to see how OPM season 2 will fare.

>>91849767
Jojo season 3 confirmed to save toonami

>>91850809
just like season 2 was going to during season 1

>>91850476
>>91850809
it will N E V E R air on Toonami

>>91850790
Pretty much. OPM seems to have a bit more staying power though, we will see

>>91851008
Hopefully the tournament arc doesn't turn off people. At least the King, Fubuki, and MB episodes will be good.

>>91850845
Yea because at this rate Toonami will be cancelled by then

>>91849767
well Titan just lost the excitement it had with season 1. Its been 4 years, people have moved on. The show also isn't as compelling as it was before

>>91851365
More Fubuki is all I need to tune in. I'd even accept more of her less attractive sister

>>91850362
They pull in millions BECAUSE its all they air

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i'm not gonna say i knew this would happen, but it was fairly obvious

can't scapegoat one piece as being the cause no more

April 23, 2016
12:00 AM Dragon Ball Z Kai 1,361,000
12:30 AM Dimension W 1,150,000
1:00 AM Hunter x Hunter 1,012,000
1:30 AM Samurai Champloo 896,000
2:00 AM Naruto Shippuden 852,000
2:30 AM One Piece 756,000
3:00 AM Parasyte -the maxim- 659,000

i can't find these on programming insider under the toonami tag, but they're on the wiki so meh

>>91850840

Why is Jojo doing so badly?

>>91852112
it wasn't, the block itself is dying because of the lead in being weakened with jack (since family guy repeats do much better than it at 11PM) and the super repeat (same deal) and followed by decades old dragon ball

they need to wrap jack up asap and get family guy back, get rid of the 8 PM super premiere and move that to midnight as the sole premiere slot for it, and move buu kai to the repeat slot

then we might get back to last year's levels

>>91852112
Being that it exists online at the click of a button probably doesn't help. Jack and Dandy are premieres, Jojo is just tv syndication catching up with what's already released.

>>91851995
I'm very fond of One Piece, but I accept that it will always be destined as the long runner chugging along in the background. Toei have dragged the content out so long from intro song, introduction, recap, and moving stills you could probably describe the actual content of a new episode in one breath.

>>91852219
Jack is literally the only thing a huge chunk of people are tuning in for. Its the furthest thing from the problem.

And you know damn well they can't drop 8pm Super. That's what everyone gets for requesting literal children's anime

>>91852112
Normies had to learn the hard way most of the memes don't come from p1+p2

>>91852361
if it's the only thing people are tuning in for and it's not doing as well as family guy repeats then it's definitely dragging the block down since there's some consistency in holdover from those

if they can't drop 8pm super then drop it from toonami, it's just an albatross at this point since it won't ever do as well as kai usee to nor as well as any decent premiere would if it wasn't being dragged down by jack and the dragon ball power hour

>>91850845
THAT'S WHAT YOU FAGS SAID ABOUT KLK AND JOJO AND OPM AND GUESS WHAT FUCKING HAPPENED

On a minor bit of news, Adult Swim just got the rights to Big O season 1 back for the first time in years (they have perpetual rights to season 2, but not to season 1). The Toonami stream did a full marathon of it yesterday.

So that may show up in the rerun slot at some point.

>All this bitching

How would YOU solve the problem, then, smart asses?

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>>91852850
drop long runners, drop meme shit like Jojo, air 1 or 2 season edgy shit with waifus like KLK, AGK, and T Ghoul and rake in the ratings

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>>91850209

>>91852850
Here's the issue, it's past the point of being solved now. If borderline simuldubs can't even put asses in seats, I don't think anything can. But let's go with >>91852951 since its dying anyway, why not roll the dice and have some fun. Maybe it works, if so great. Maybe it doesn't, if so whatever since it was about to bite it anyway

>>91853096
I could do without the racism in that picture.

>>91853169
I couldn't.

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>Toonami is kill
At least it gave us Jack back

>>91853169
Perhaps tumblr is more your speed then

>>91853214
Agreed. We got Jack, it can die now. FLCL can just air on regular AS, not that many care about that anyway

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>>91853281
With all the hype and the shit we've been through I'm gonna miss shit posting with the lads when Toonami is finally gone.

>>91850544
>>91850790
>>91851008
The problem is that the wait for season 2 was such that anyone that invested in Attack on Titan was going to read the manga. . Especially since this whole season is only gonna be 12 episodes and there's no way ANY questions will get answered in those 12 unless they skip about 30 chapters worth of material.

AoT has a long fairly continuity heavy narrative that forces you to strike while the iron is hot and keep audiences in their seats. Compare this to OPM which is essentially a gag series where you can run the same joke whenever, or Jojo where each season is essentially its own new story, and it's not really the same.


If I had to pick a culprit though I'd pick the hour of DBZ. The dropoff really started with that, it seems, even if the show itself does okay

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>>91853169

>AoT already a flop
>only thing to look forward to is Unicorn's replacement
>very likely will be IBOS2 despite S1 doing terrible
>if AoT only pulled 826k it's guaranteed to pull less

I can't see any way Toonami lasts another 6 months

>>91852850
Stop getting FOTM shit and get cheap hipster shit, it worked at the start

>>91853096
You know for all the times I've seen this posted, I just don't understand what's going on here. Is this an edit? What was edited? Why?

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>>91853898
I think this is the original.

>>91853898
Probably yes and probably not, at this point the whole latino-half-breeds is a weird fetish and a meme.

>AoT season 2
>most hyped animu
>put it on a late night shift

This should come either before or after Samurai Jack. Dragon Ball Kai should be 12:30.

>>91849767
>12:30a Attack on Titan 826 0.41 523
See, DeMarco? Have you learned that letting normalfags dictate the lineup only leads to tragedy?!

>>91853873
True. We were better off when Toonami wasn't expected to be a powerhouse block competing with sports and other shit on a Saturday night.

>>91854622
normalfags is what makes this block the block.

us underground people already seen these shows and no reason to see them again

>>91849976
AoT was popular like four years ago.The long wait between seasons tanked its popularity.

AoT's production staff fucked the franchise over by sitting on their asses for four years. You'd think after all that time they could deliver more than a 12 episode season.

>>91854622
Without normalfags Toonami wouldn't exist. Appealing to normalfags is its entire purpose.

Between torrents, fansubs and Crunchyroll, hardcore animu nerds have already seen every show on Toonami that they're interested in. They're not the audience.

>>91849767
I thought the Attack on Titan dub was premiering on Funimation.

>3:00a Ghost in the Shell (r) 487 0.23 294
Movie or series?

>>91855032
Series. And AoT premieres on Toonami, but is available on Funimation like 30 mins later

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Anyone feel like just tuning out halfway through? I was ok until the hour of edge. That and everything after felt like a slog to get through. The only show I stick around for is GitS which means I have to sit through to the end. Super was boring as hell. As soon as Jack and GitS are done, I think I'm just gonna hand it up on Toonami. I was gonna stick around for JoJo Pt.3 but I can just watch it online (and watch the subs like some dirty weeb). Also, what is the purpose of airing Super at 8 and 11:30? If they already air Super at 8, why waste the premium airtime after Jack on a rerun instead of putting on?
>>91854024
It likely wasn't going to do well to begin with for the reasons alluded to here>>91853528
Any remotely interested fan of S1 either read the manga or dropped and forgot the series over the ensuing years. Putting it on earlier might have brought in a few new normies not interested in anime and who only stick around for the Jack nostalgia, but it likely would have not done considerably better than it is now.

>>91855032
Series

>>91855646
I feel you, anon. I like Super but I feel unmotivated to watch past it. The two most fun shows on the block were One Piece and Jojo, and they're both gone in favor of childish edgy bloodfests. I like Hunter X Hunter but it's not worth sitting through a decade-old DBZ rerun and an hour of grimdark just to see a show that's got its first 100 episodes on Netflix anyway. I'm not sure I'll be motivated to watch Toonami after Jack ends.

Thankfully, Titan season 2 is only 12 episodes so maybe they can un-fuck the schedule when it ends in a few months.

>>91855646
Yeah, I used to stay tuned for One Piece but now I just turn it off after Kai. Don't give a fuck about any of the shows after that, and if Kai was before Super as it should be I'd skip Super too.

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1.3 million people heard Spongebob say "penis."

>>91855646
Super airing at 8 is a contract stipulation

>>91856006
That's nothing. There's an episode of the Boondocks that has Tom Kenny voicing a redneck, and he uses the word nigger, and it literally sounded like a Redneck Spongebob.

>>91854860
To be fair it is a monthly series. So they either needed to either do a bunch of filler or go anime original

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>>91855961
I keep hearing this, both here on /co/ and in other Toonami forums. A lot of people aren't watching the whole block anymore because they pulled One Piece.

And here's the thing: OP may not have had the best ratings, but its fanbase was loyal and dedicated, and they were willing to sit through the rest of the block just to get to their show. That boosted the ratings of every other series, even if lots of other people tuned out when OP came on.

Toonami's overall ratings have been down every week since OP cancelled. Aside from Jack, every show has gotten lower numbers consistently. You can pretend that's a coincidence if it makes you feel better.

>>91856074
Must have pissed people off because that one never aired outside of its premiere

>>91856232
Except that's outright wrong. The week after OP was canned the average improved immensely. TG was doing great for its slot until they decided to shelve it for a week after it just started which seems to have killed it.

>>91856148
What we are watching right now are manga chapters from 2013. Season 1 aired in 2014. There's literally no excuse for this 3 year wait

>>91856006
Wait is that really the guy who does Spongebob?

>>91856408
The excuse was that the studio who does the anime was overburdened with other projects to finish S2 in a timely fashion.

>>91856420
Tom Kenny, yeah. He does a lot of voce work.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtAOD96RXPE

Watch this, if you want a good laugh.

>>91856539
And even when they got around to it, they STILL couldn't give it a full 26 episodes. Which, considering the chapters they're adapting are really going to hurt it in the long run.

stay alive until the morning

>>91853096
I never understood this meme

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>Tfw you've reach a point of blasétude so great with Toonami that even IF it somehow started airing all your dream shows you're not even sure you'd bother tuning in
I just turn it on for Jack and then turn it off. I used to watch the whole block no matter how bad it got. I wonder if it's because Jack's too good and the drop in quality from it to Super is so evident that I don't want to keep going

>>91849767
>Super down that much from Jack

What gives? When Jack started, Super was still pulling well over a million, and Kai too IIRC. Now both fall just below that mark.

At this rate, by the time the show finally starts the Zamasu stuff, Super'll be pulling JoJo numbers, and Kai'll be worse.

>>91849767
Demarco fucked up by not scheduling AoT behind Jack. Even if the AoT bubble has burst, it still would have done better than Super.

>>91857327
This. It's a fucking dub premier for fuck's sake, the Super reruns and DBZ everyone's already seen years ago can be push back for the what, 12 episodes of AoT? No one wants to sit through one hour of Dragon Ball just for Attack on Titan but I'm certain more would be willing to stick around if it went directly from Jack to AoT2.

>>91857294
The first week people saw what an animation masterpiece looks like and the many flaws of Super became too evident to continue watching

>>91851995
>Parasyte

Glad that piece of shit anime is off. Seriously, that was one of the shittiest anime I have ever watched

>>91849767
I just want to say that these edits always make me smile when I see them in the catalog

Holy shit. AoT is only three weeks behind from Japan and yet, this looks bad. I think Demarco is thinking that this is still the opening year, where we can go off of pure hype alone, but it's not that anymore.

AoT S2 really should be at 11:30, then the rest of the block kicks in.

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>>91857488
>Seriously, that was one of the shittiest anime I have ever watched he says while discussing a block that aired such masterpieces as SAO seasons 1 and 2, Deadman Wonderland, Akame Ga Kill, Blue Exorcist and Tokyo Ghoul

>>91857559
No, AoT S2 should be after Jack.
Honestly I really don't see why we need DBS reruns the very fucking day it already aired.

>Yet another "normie" anime that doesn't get above-average ratings.

First JoJo and now AoT. The ratings will continue to decline for it.

>>91856232
>OPfag denial.

Nigga, everyone avoided One Piece. Remember when One Punch Man reran after it? People tuned in for Naruto, tuned out for One Piece, and then tuned BACK in for One Punch Man.

>>91857530
They are hit or miss for me, but I got a solid laugh out of this one, it lines up well

>>91857580
11:30 is after Jack

So is it finally safe to say that Toonami is finished?

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One Piece
Best selling manga
WORLDWIDE

>>91849767
I love seeing these OP images because I can still remember when you fags sucked his cock.

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What are the odds of Toonami getting caned before the end of the year?

>>91858091
The anti-OP fags are obsessed with this trivia, even though it only happened a few times, and never happened with any other show. It's a reflection of OPM's popularity, not anything to do with One Piece.

Don't believe me? OP ran at the 2:30 timeslot for more than a year. Name one other show that beat it at 3:00. Oh wait, you can't, there aren't any.

>>91850209
You mean opm ratings were bad?
As far as I know , opm ratings were always above 1.2million views

>>91861471
They just want to make themselves feel better because it's now impossible to deny that One Piece's cancellation hurt the block's ratings. One week is a coincidence but four weeks (leaving off the April Fool's one) is a pattern.

>>91861572
We're talking about OPM's rerun ratings, which were usually around 600-800.

OPM definitely had some of Toonami's best-ever ratings in its premiere, so it's no surprise it did well in repeats, too. It likely would have beaten whatever show was airing at 2:30 no matter what it was.

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>everyone clocks out after hxh
>even then the threads slow the fuck down around AoT
>mfw knowing the magic is finally gone

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>>91857294
Super sucks (and the 11:30 showing is a rerun). That's pretty much it. And as an aftereffect, Super then drags down every show after it.

>>91850209
the absolute madman

Has Jack been consistently good in ratings?

>>91861682
In What time did they aired opm rerun ?

>>91863348
Pretty much. Since it's only 10 weeks, everyone's waiting to see how big the drop off is after it ends in about a month. Expect a quick and painful death for Toonami to follow.

>>91863348
Yes
It's ratings always above 1.3 million

>>91863348
Yes
It's ratings are always above 1.3 million

>>91863348
thankfully yes

>>91853096
The fetish art was the only worthwhile thing to come out from this show

>>91864525
The Ryuko and Satsuki shitposters are pretty fun to laugh at.

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>tfw you hated Jojo but miss the German commentary during the fights

>>91864743
I never watched jojo before it's toonami run, it's pretty good
Dub for part 2 was very enjoyable with Numbah Ones voice actor

Toonami needs more fanservice like KLK and others

Demarco needs to be drastic because this year is now or never for them and Adult Swim is dying as well.

>>91865519
>...Adult Swim is dying as well
Dafuq?

>>91865705
People are starting to slowly realize they been watching FG reruns for about 15 years now and are suicide or moving on

>>91850103
I know you're partly joking, but this actually happened to Adult Swim Action at one point. They'd have the shows with new episodes, then air an hour of Family Guy, and then play reruns of older anime.

Those were some weird times.

>comedy central showing south park the time adult swim starts
i think i know where some ratings are going

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>>91849767
> le funny demarco face meme

you've outdone yourself yet again. thank you for representing the toonami viewing audience on /co/.

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>>91853169
You could also fuck off.

>>91852951
Throw in some comedy too like Panty and Stocking.

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>>91864979
Jojo is one of the few dubs where ridiculous fake accents work perfectly in the show's favor.

The next Jojo will have a standard American accent (he's Japanese) but his friends include a magical Muslim and a wacky Frenchman, not to mention he fights a fuckton of Egyptians and Arabs. Should be some good accent fodder.

>>91867019
I think they're going to avoid the accents for Stardust Crusaders, unfortunately.

>>91864979
I don't mind silly accents, but Caesar's was straight up just shit and ruined his character.

>>91850358
Jack is the only show pulling its weight. You should thank Genndy for being the only non-loser on the block.

>>91861471
AoT

>>91861471
No, there were. AoT beat it once, for example.

>>91854622
Toonami is never gonna be competitive with nigggerball, but that doesn't mean that the bloc should air garbage.

I think AoT is a big mistake, though.

>>91863348
The only thing on TV that has done better than Jack on Saturdays since it started is Sportsball. Jack even outdoes it's Family Guy lead each week. It's gonna be a rough transition in three and a half weeks when it isnt there anymore making the block look good

>>91867731
Caesar's kind of a shit character so I didn't mind much.

>>91852850
Got rid of Naruto and Kai.

Replace with the flavor of the month anime as needed.

Enjoy high ratings

G-guys I don't want Toonami t-to die

>>91868417
>>91868389

Yeah, and look at AoT now. Let's not pretend it could do that today.

>>91868550
Do you think they'll ditch the 11:00 PM slot or give it to Super in hopes of improving its numbers?

Of course it would help if they stopped airing it three hours earlier every week but apparently Toei is really insistent that the new episodes premiere in prime-time, as if DB Super were fucking Game of Thrones or something.

>>91870283
>Samjack ends
>gets sent to the rerun slot at the end of the block
>now month-old episodes of Jack are airing at 3 AM.
>still get higher ratings than anything else on Toonami

>>91870124
Then why didn't you watch it? YOU killed Toonami.

There's something vindicating about ratings starting to drop as soon as I dropped the block.

>>91870283
Absolutely not, 11 goes back to Family Guy. That alone will improve ratings slightly. Look at the viewership plummet from Jack to Super. People aren't interested in Super reruns. It airs at 8 because it's literally a little kid show, and that's as close to a kids network as they could get it.

>>91870317
Jack is too good to be stuck on Toonami. It's already reruning on Wednesdays, they won't give it shitslot when it can stand on its own during the week at a good time

DESU Jack is the best show on the block and I don't even like that so much. It's nostalgic but so far is pretty predictable and kind of boring.

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>>91870283
Post-Jack best schedule:

11 - Dragon Ball Supper

11:30 - Attack on Tintin

12 - DBZ Kai: The Final Chapter Except Not Really Because Super Exists

12:30 - Haunter X Haunter

1 -Jojo's Jamboree: Startling Croissants

1:30 - Gundam Alicorn: Brony Seed Destiny

2:00 - Tokyo BloodMurderDeathEdgeKillGrimBloodStabbingsBlood

2:30 - Believe It!: Shipping

3:00 - Samurai Protege Ashi

Watch your ratings explode with winning combination.

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>>91870601
>11

>>91870425
>It airs at 8 because it's literally a little kid show

The entire Dragon Ball franchise is for kids, you're not making some huge revelation by constantly saying this. And given that DB and Jack are the only Toonami shows not in the ratings toilet, maybe "kids" shows are what viewers want.

If you want tryhard "mature" garbage go watch Tokyo Ghoul. God knows it needs the ratings.

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Anyone kinda glad seeing the ratings fail? Demarco was so fucking smug last year that having almost every slot locked down for eternity was a great choice for ratings despite literally everyone saying the opposite. And look where we are today, everyone was right and Demarco was wrong. Again

>>91870704
I said "best schedule" not "realistic schedule."

>>91870744
Not him but you are delusional if you think anything besides Jack isn't in the toilet. It's gonna be hilarious seeing the viewership average plummet in a few weeks when Jack isn't here to boost it up anymore

>>91870766
>DB Super and DBZ are the only anime getting good ratings
>both are longrunners

>just introduced a new 12-episode season of a hit show, literally the shortest episode count they could get
>it bombs

So how exactly were you "right" again?

>>91870870
>Super and Kai getting good ratings
Good joke. At best they are doing mediocre. Kai is a dub premiere now and doing worse than it ever has
>implying just adding a short show fixes everything in one night
Not how it works. People fucked off when 6/7 slots were long runners and haven't come back. Walking back the mistake of bogging the block down that everyone would said would happen will take months to repair.

>>91850845
At this point it's too little too late, people who gave a shit about the series have either watched it in sub after getting introduced through Toonami, or jumped to the officially released manga.
The few people who are waiting for Toonami's run of it won't pull high enough numbers,

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>>91866838
or WataMote

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>>91872337
Reminder that Umaru got a second season and this didn't

>>91849767
They need to give AoT the slot after Samurai Jack and watch out those Dragonball Super ratings that 300k drop is legitimately concerning seeing how Dragonball has been the spearhead of the Block.

>>91867019
>Jojo is one of the few dubs where ridiculous fake accents work perfectly in the show's favor.

Holy shit. FUCK NO. Just about every characters accent is horrid, coupled with the fact the event the character feel the desire to tell at each other at Max volume turns me off.

I honestly believe Super being a rerun is ratings poison.

I tried the gold bond spray directly onto the anus from last weeks thread 2 and fuck you, almost died

>>91872891
Yeah I feel the same way.

>>91872891
Toonami's done reruns before (One Piece, Samurai Jack) and I don't think they affected the show's performance on the block.

>>91873485
1 new episode twice in the same night?

>AoT season 2 premiere, which seems like it should've been the biggest thing of the year, bombs

Where were you when Toonami was kill?

>>91873541
I don't remember if the One Piece reruns were current or not. We've never had someone go over the reruns to see if there was any effect.

i wonder if jack will rerun from s1 or s5

>>91874300
S1, I hope. It's all great.

>>91871637
>At best they are doing mediocre
They are literally the highest rated anime shows on the block. They're doing poorly now in comparison to how they were doing months ago. Kai used to be above a million every week and Super never did as good because of the 8:00 showing, but was still consistently above 900k.

AoT doing above 800k is also good. It's actually above what I was expecting considering A) it's been 4 years since the first season and the fad is largely over and B) it's no headlining the block like season 1 was. The real problem here is that Demarco can't give premiers the scheduling they deserve because he's locked into starting the block with Jack and the Dragon Ball power hour, which puts any hot new title 90 minutes into the block instead of the first or second show.

>>91852684
Nobody said that about OPM, but I did doubt that Toonami would air KLK and Jojo I admit. OPM had Toonami written all over it, but then again I can think of a couple other series that also seemed like a lock for Toonami that never even came up as possibilities with Demarco.

>>91873485
They've never aired one episode and then the exact same episode a few hours later. That they'd expect anyone to want to sit through Super's bullshit once, let alone twice is ridiculous

>>91874681

Darker than Black being one of them.

>>91874700
No, I mean new seasonal shows that were airing at the time. Like Kekkai Sensen or Shingeki no Bahamut Genesis. DTB is older and I'm not sure it would get any views. It is from before the era of everything getting simulcasts though, so maybe the normie crowd isn't as exposed to it and could get views just on novelty, like Dimension W did.

>>91874694
It's likely out of their hands. Contract probably said they wanted an earlier timeslot for it since Super isn't a late night anime in Japan they want kids to watch it too, so probably stipulated that AS had to put it on earlier.

>>91874789
In that case they should remove it from Toonami and replace it with something else, or put it in the rerun slot of Toonami, since it's technically what it is.

>>91874835
Despite being a rerun it's still incredibly popular. It pulls over 900k ratings despite rerunning on the same day. I doubt anything but Dragonball could pull that kind of stunt.

>>91873741
They weren't. They were from last week. DB Super premiers at 8:00 and then the same Super episode airs again on Toonami after Jack. This is the first time anything like this has been done on Toonami and Super is doing remarkably well on the block despite having its premier scooped by the 8:00 showing.

>>91872820
Jojo is not a serious series. The fun accents amplify that it's meant to be a fun series.

>>91874980
It does that because it's in a primetime slot, not because it's good or popular

>>91873741
Those reruns had no effect because they were from the prior weeks Toonami. It was a place to catch up it you missed, but if you wanted to be up to date you had to tune in each week. Super is a rerun of that nights episode, and it's very clearly a problem

>>91874628
God you are stupid. If DB was pulling 500k and everything else was under 400k you would still say it's doing good because it's the highest rated anime of the night. The numbers it's pulling now are not good at all, especially since it has long been trusted to be the blocks life support. 826k for a near world premiere is absymal too, especially that early into the night. People act like 12:30 is a deathslot now when it's nowhere near being one

>>91872891
Anyone with a brain knew it would become a problem fairly quickly

>>91874681
Only morons thought KLK wouldn't come. Jojo had a legitimate reason to assume it wouldn't come, for years there was no sign of a dub being made. Then when it did get a dub, it was by Warner which Demarco implied doesn't work well with itself and wouldn't give the rights. Once it made its way to Viz, most figured it was inevitable

>>91874694
> anyone to sit through super's bullshit once

Are the 8:00 and 11:30 viewing audiences really the same though? I've never seen reactions to Super's 8:00 showing on twitter, it's always the 11:30.

>>91875681
It's safe to assume people watch 8pm and skip 11:30, and it's also safe to assume people watch 11:30 and skip 8pm. The ratings divide between the two is shrinking every week

I haven't seen the first six-episode of FLCL yet. Ugh, [adult swim] is really pushing me.

>>91872820
How does it feel to have terrible taste?

>>91874789
I find it puzzling DB Super is on AS at all. I get that Toonami is strongly associated with DBZ nostalgia, but from a business standpoint it makesn no sense. DB is a children anime with a huge pull for adults as well, it should be on a kids channel. With reruns on later hours for the adults to catch on, or even airing on CN with reruns on AS. Not premiering in AS.

>>91876496
CN doesn't air anime anymore. No one else does besides Disney, and they avoid shonens now after Shippuden. Adult Swim was the only place for it.

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>>91876496
No other channel or network would take it. AS was the last network to get a shot at it

>>91876496
Dragonball is so overwhelmingly popular with mouthbreathers they could put the Dragonball label on a hunk of shit and they'd go for it. It doesn't matter that DB Super is tooled for kids, they still eat it up because muh nostalgia. And like other people have said what network would take DB Super? Nobody airs anime anymore except for Saturday morning kid toy commercials.

>>91875610
>The numbers it's pulling now are not good at all
Just south of 1m is very good numbers. Basically one of the highest rated Toonami shows since it came back.

>>91875672
>Only morons thought KLK wouldn't come.
Considering the fact Demarco had to make cuts to the content because it was "gross" I'd say their doubts were well-founded. I still consider KLK an unexpected pick, especially considering how fast they got it.

>>91850362
No Cartoon Network show pulls "millions" anymore.

TTG gets about 1.5 per episode. Adventure Time barely touches 1 million when it's an event episode and doesn't come close when it's not. Steven Universe, a show that never dropped below one million, just started dipping below the past two episodes.

>>91877529
>>91877542
>No network wants to air a franchise that has consistently printed money for the past decade
Why?

>>91877605
Except it is literally a Saturday morning cartoon. to sell toys and games to kids. It even airs on Sunday mornings in Japan which is the closest equivalent to our Saturday mornings, and has been selling an ungodly amount of merch.
No reason to believe it couldn't do the same here.

>2010
>Realize I miss Toonami
>wish toonami was back
>April Fools Day 2012
>Oh yay it's back tonight
>It comes back the next month and it's literally just the same shit that Adult Swim airs every Saturday.
>Watch a few shows, but never more than the first episode
>Dragon Ball Super is put on Toonami
>Watch the first few episodes
>Literally just the movies
>Drop it
>Jack comes back
>Watch it
>Will stop watching Toonami when it ends.

Damn, I was so excited for it to come back and wanted it to come back for years but it's such shit.

Honestly, Samurai Jack is the only thing keeping Toonami up.

Toonami will end in 2019. Mark my words. From the end of Samurai Jack to the end of the third Season of FLCL, they will start putting a lot less effort into licensing shows and will start pulling whatever licenses they have along with just putting reruns of Cancelled Cartoon Network shows on the last hour.

FLCL will be it's last hurrah and the premiere of the final episode will either be the last time Toonami airs or it will be a few months before it ends because they'll just replay FLCL for a few months and then end it.

>>91877636
Now I know you are baiting

>>91877821
It's anime and Toei inflates the price

>>91853548
MOOOOOOOOOODS

>>91878029
>2019

Way too generous. FLCL doesn't need Toonami so its not helping by just existing. They can't rerun CN shows because they are all gone.

>>91877886
>skipped the golden years of Neo Toonami
>waaah it always sucked

It's your fault for watching the worst parts

>>91878317
lol yeah I loved the Golden Era when they aired Beware the Batman and the shitty Clone Wars.

>>91878371
>implying anything that aired after 2:30am ever was cared about

Am I the only one who kinda wants it to die? We got Jack, and we had some good times over the years. But it's not going to improve. Id rather it just be canned over airing crap for years and slowing being cut back

>>91878453
No, its the only thing keeping me going.

No family
no friends
video games are not filling the void
not welcome in /a/ anymore
cant use reddit without someone trying to agenda me
cant get a job
welfare sustaining me
shitposting no longer has meaning
anime is blending together
cant get into cn new lineup
comedy central has become the fox rerun channel
cat is just waiting for me to die

Toonami needs to stay.

>>91877721
>no CN shows pull millions anymore
>next line states TTGo averages 1.5

Retard alert

>>91878453
I've been wanting it to die since Dandy finished. That was the moment I realized Toonami would never have a real premiere again and we were destined to end up with long runners clogging the block, along with the occasional flavor of the season anime.


When was the first moment you lost faith in Toonami? Mine has to be when they picked up Shippuden while OG UNCUT NARUTO was still airing. Thanks for an hour of Naruto back then, Demarco.

>>91877666
We didn't learn Demarco was gay and he needed to cut out "gross" scenes until halfway through KLK. So that wasn't a reason for thinking it wouldn't come

>>91878761
Demarco's obcession with long running shonen and generally pretending the block was still airing in the early 2000s instead of trying to adequate to times is what killed Toonami.

>>91878761
> an hour of naruto

You're clearly misremembering, Naruto was dropped for Shippuden.

>>91879107
Shit, was it? I could've sworn we had an hour of Naruto at one point, or maybe I'm just thinking of the Uncut Naruto announcement. It's been too long.

>>91879107
No it wasn't. They got Shitpudding then restarted original Naruto later in the night. Both ran at the same time for a whole year

>>91879200
It wasn't a full hour, but I clearly remember Naruto and Shippuden on the block with one or two shows in-between to break it up.

>>91879407
When? Because I remember being annoyed Shippuden was a replacement despite Naruto being in the middle of the Chunin Exams.

>>91878761
Eh I had faith a little longer. I'm not super hard to please, but once they got HxH and made it clear airing every long running shonen at once was their goal I lost faith. Then they got Jojo and I lost a little extra bit of faith I didn't know I had. Jojo may be gone now but it doesn't feel like anything got better

>>91879473
Literally when Shitpudding started. Demarco said they got the license for the first 50 some Naruto episodes for longer so they put it on the back half before that was cut off. They restarted from episode 1 though so it was total cancer

>>91879473
Around May of 2014.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e4HFDrW878A

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>>91879483
but hunter x hunter has an ending

and the dub is literally the only thing hunter x hunter fans have to look forward too

because we all know togashi isn't going to do more chapters anytime soon

>>91879473
Just a random night I pulled


11:30 PM Attack on Titan 1,341,000
12:00 AM Bleach 1,142,000
12:30 AM Space Dandy 869,000
1:00 AM Naruto Shippuden 812,000
1:30 AM One Piece 742,000
2:00 AM Blue Exorcist 803,000
2:30 AM Black Lagoon 671,000
3:00 AM Ghost in the Shell: SAC 536,000
3:30 AM Naruto 654,000
4:00 AM Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood 553,000
4:30 AM Samurai Jack 457,000
5:00 AM Star Wars: The Clone Wars 503,000
5:30 AM Sym-Bionic Titan 420,000

>>91849923

You know what else I noticed going back, outside the references /co/ already pointed out?

When Ashi goes to the bar with DA SAMOORAI and the first Warrior tells her

>little girl, Samurai Jack is the toughest SOB out there

>SOB

>He called Jack a Son of a Bitch

>>91878761

>Brings back One Piece

>It's the Fucking Foxy Arc

>>91879596
Don't care at all. Nothing you posted required a Toonami airing. I would have been just fine with it had it replaced one of the long runners that was already airing. Going a year and seeing long runner spam is ratings cancer and pulling something off then doesn't make it better

>>91878761

Says you

Outside DBZ Kai and Gundam, the current Lineup is fucking great

Throw away the shitposting m, AOT is a good fucking show

>>91879672
BUT IT'S IN HD

>>91879639
Are you fucking five?
>AHHH GUYS HE SAID THE B WORD

Is Samurai Jack going to be replaced by anything or are they going to give the spot to Adult Swim?

Are we getting the remaining part of Iron blooded Orphans once Unicorn finishes?

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>>91879672
Davy Back is unironically one of the best arcs in One Piece.

>>91879534
>>91879624
Could have sworn Naruto left the block when they added Shippuden, but I really got it wrong.

>>91879741
No confirmation yet but pretty much guaranteed Family Guy retakes 11. Same with IBO, lot of speculation says it replaces Unicorn but no confirmation yet. We will know for sure within 3 weeks

>>91879731

No it just caught me off guard

Like when Scaramouch said Penis out of Fucking nowhere

Now Imagine Aku or Scottsman saying Fuck

>>91879741

I honestly hope that we don't. S2 of IBO makes S1 look good by comparison.

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>>91879624
>even a random night has OP being absolutely BTFO by the show after it

>>91879672

>Bring back one piece of the one of the lamest shit in existence

>Kill it off literally an episode before Saboady, when shit finally goes down

W-H-Y

>>91879823
Is it bad enough that it'll be fun to riff on like SAO or Akame?

>>91879768
>>91879832
>It gets better at x arc!

Literally broken records.

>>91879832
>once X arc airs it's gets better I swear!
Literally has been wrong for every show it's been said for

>>91879847
No because Gundam is such a damn bore. AgK was bad but had action to keep you engaged

>>91879832
Because the Foxy arc is when they switched over to HD in Japan, while their contract ran out right before Shabondy

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>>91879826

>>91879832
>foxy sucks but it really takes off at Water 7
>ok water 7 is boring but Enies Lobby is where the action starts
>Enies lobby has really bad pacing, Thriller bark will be way better
>OH COME ON THRILLER BARK SUCKED BUT SABOADY WAS GREAT AND THEY DIDNT AIR IT

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>>91879823
but best girl won the Mikabowl

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I legit slept through Gundam, so I have no clue if anything of significance happened.

Also, hesitant to take Scaramoush off since I have a feeling he's going to get offed harder than the first time.

>>91879892

gundam wing is so weird.

it actually reminds me of jurassic park, how the book is super super dry, and in a way it's really satisfying to know there's a fun/halfway scientific justification for everything that's happening, but thankfully the people who adapted it into a movie understood that no, that's not what people were going to want to focus on.

Unfortunately that did not happen for GW. For example, the colony clusters in GW are actually charted out on existing lagrange points that provides some really interesting scientific backing for why people could live in space...... but NO ONE wants to focus on that when you have teenagers piloting ROBOTS, jeez louise just make them fight!!!

>>91880174
>Gundam
>significance
Lol

And you should take him off, he will probably ally with Jack at the last second after he sees how bad Aku is getting rekt

>>91880174
scatbot still alive. has a dickhead friend too

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>>91880209
>tfw you like that sort of thing

>>91880242
I'm still a bit hesitant to take him off, since I feel like he's gonna get wrecked the moment Aku lays eyes on his bouncing head. I'll wait until after the next episode and see what happens.

Inb4 Samurai Jack gets cancelled before it's final episode is allowed to air

>>91880987
>Rick and Morty Season 3 officially premieres early as a result.

>>91879871
Calm down with your memes, anon, that's not what he said.

He said shit goes down in the next arc, which is true: it's a huge turning point for the series which changed everything. That doesn't mean "the show gets better at that arc." The show was already plenty good. It's that that arc is a big one story-wise.

>>91881336
That's what OPfags said after every fucking arc
>shit goes down this arc guys I swear

It never did, and it never would have

>>91880987
Jack is literally the only thing not doing terrible on the block. Why would it of all things be pulled?

>>91852951
muh waifus

>>91857488
I thank god every day that my taste isnt this bad.

>>91872337
adult swim audience =/= moeshit/SoL comedy audience

not even disparaging fans of either type of programming but it's not a good fit

>>91881336
>He said shit goes down in the next arc
Which was the exact same thing said about Enies Lobby.

>>91880174
Stroheim didn't die oncamera, so he really doesn't need to be on the wall.

>>91878761
I've always thought Space Dandy was overrated.

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>>91881731
Neither did Speedwagon, but they were both pretty influential characters in their own rights throughout the arc, Speedwagon moreso since the Speedwagon Foundation continues to exist in later arcs.

That and the alt-righters would likely have thrown a massive bitchfit if Stroheim wasn't included in some capacity.

>>91881418
Waifus bring ratings

>>91881909
>bringing /pol/ bullshit into a discussion that was never related to /pol/ in any way

Why I expected anything more from a tripfag I will never know

Why do you guys try so hard to save this block? It's pretty evident the guy in charge will never make positive changes to the lineup

Am I the only one that has absolutely no idea wtf is even happening in Gundam Unicorn?

The only thing that seems to be clear is the MC must have set some kind of record for betraying everybody he has ever known ever.


I thoroughly enjoy HunterHunter though..

>>91882529
Politics and magic mind reading robots. Banana didn't betray anyone, he's just your typical dumb teenager. In fact, not that I'm really paying attention, there aren't a lot of betrayals in this series.

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I feel like Toonami should bring Akame ga Kill!: Brotherhood around.

Follows the manga more closely, like some characters not dying, or not dying until later, or including brutal clown rape, extending the story, etc.

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>>91882263
To be fair, they've been making big changes and made some big grabs. Near simulcast of AoT2 and DragonBall Super are still significant, even if the shows themselves are questionable. JoJo's especially was a major grab, as well as One Punch Man and Samurai Jack exclusivity.

So, they're at least trying. And we are still due FLCL 2, as long as that doesn't get canned before then.

>>91881909
Speedwagon's death is at least funny because the narration says he died a rich virgin.

>>91879847

Ehh...it's mostly a bad end, honestly.

Spoilers below:

Last chance:

Akihiro, Mikazuki, and Orga die in the last three episodes
Naze, Amina, and Lafter die about halfway through
McGillis dies at the hand of Gaelio
Ride kills Nobliss in the last episode

>>91882842
yeah iduno I feel he has. He gets captured by one group and then has absolutely no problem cooperating with them, then he gets recaptured and cooperates, then re-recaptured and cooperates.. etc. what a dick

>>91878761
Code Geass S3 will save Toonami.

>>91883070
That has more to do with him being a whiny spineless little bitch who can't stand up for himself when everyone around him decides to play tug-o-war with him and his gundam.

>tfw one western show airs on this shitty anime block and basically kills it by being so superior

stay alive until the morning

>>91883152
Who would even get the dub rights? Bandai USA went bellyup after R2.

>>91881378
The crew gets separated for two years, both in real time and in-universe. Then the following two arcs are just Luffy solo trying and failing to save his brother from being executed by the government.

That's what that anon means by shit going down, the plot pulling a complete 180 from what it looked like it was heading towards after Thriller Bark.

>>91884614
Funimation. They have the first two seasons and Akito the Exiled.

>>91877721
>No Cartoon Network show pulls "millions" anymore.
>TTG gets about 1.5 per episode.

I stay forgetting some of the people I talk to on 4chan are certified idiots.

>>91878646
I completely feel the same way, minus the no family and cat part.

Keep you head up bro. We're all gonna make it.

>>91884710
Uh huh, sure buddy

>>91882263
Because it gives a bunch of neanderthals on the internet a platform for them to rant as if they have any TV experience whatsoever and pretend that anime hasn't shifted to streaming/VoD as if they lived in the year 2006, and no amount of "hurr durr go to bed Demarco" will make it untrue.

>>91885942
Come on Demarco, you gotta be up early tomorrow to get to work and ruin Toonami some more

>tfw Jack will set high expectations for Toonami
>Demarco's shitty anime picks won't be able to live up to them
>Jack ends up killing Aku and Toonami

Is there nothing our boy Jack can't fix?

>>91887674
I hope Jack's success leads to studios and networks reviving other shows that never got the ending they deserved.
But deep down I know it won't.

>>91849861
I love Joseph joestar. God damn I love jojo thx to toonami

Why is it that in the year 2017 something like the Dragon Ball Super dub is one year behind the Japanese one? How does that help anyone? The video games are adding in characters that won't premiere in the anime for years. People aren't watching the dub because it's so far behind. In an ideal world, it would be a week behind. I don't know the logistics behind this.

>>91887996
Having a simuldub for shows of this length isn't viable. Even the biggest 12 episodes hits of the season have a been a few weeks behind Japan.

>>91887721
What other shows do you want?

>>91888238
Oh boy where do I start...
>Spectacular Spider-Man
>GL:TAS
>Avengers EMH
>Tron Uprising
>Sym-Bionic Titan
>GI Joe Renegades
>etc.
Yeah, I know a lot of these are literal NEVER EVERS because of company buy-outs, tax write-offs and whatnot. Doesn't change the fact I still want a better ending for all of them.

>>91888304
>Sym-Bionic Titan
Tax write off. Not legally possible.

>>91888443
Read the full post before replying, thanks

>>91888452
You people need it pounded into your heads until all of you stop asking for it.

>>91888487
Let people dream, anon.

>>91888304
Hey they could always grab some dead anime franchises like they did with Big O. Toonami is nearly dead so they won't though

>>91889023
Isn't that what they're doing with FLCL?

Outlaw Star is getting a Bluray release from Funimation this June; that wouldn't be a bad choice for Toonami since it's short, probably wouldn't cost that much since it'd promote the release, and would have nostalgia value.

>>91888206
except my hero academia season 2, which has a simulcast dub release at the same time as the simulcast sub release, at least for the first 6 episodes or something

but the weakness of doing that was shown last week when they needed to substitute an established VA since they were sick

>>91889301
Isn't a bluray re-release exactly the sort of thing that would make the show cost more to air?

>>91885856
>five seconds of googling would confirm that >>91884710 is right

>but I'm too devoted to MUH MEMES to risk being wrong

Imagine being this autistic.

So, how much longer do you anons give toonami before CN pulls the plug?

>>91891008
At this rate I wouldn't be surprised if it's gone once AoTs2 ends. Then we'll just get Super at 8 as per their contract until that expires and then maybe FLCL will be on at midnight.

>>91891008
>>91891041
I can see the block get cut in half soon, but the brand toonami is not going anywhere.

>>91891118
Toonami brand*
Just woke up and had the first hit of some dope

>>91853953
>Satsuki-sama wearing off-the-rack button down shirts

I am actually upset

>>91891008
Every year we have this discussion.

This will be the 5th.

>Oh shit, our show just got super fucking popular.
>When should we start working on the new season, boss?
>Eh....maybe later. I don't really feel like it.

>>91890604
>implying I care if he is "right" or not

The point is that bullshit that happens is just like 2-3 years ago when people tried to hype up Eneis Lobby. It's the same schlock being overhyped

>>91891008
They probably won't ever fully pull the plug, but just trim it down to an hour of Super+ one of there eternal reruns

>>91850549
>It's nighttime, people go to sleep.

>what is DVR

>>91892762
Some of us are chemists working for smallish town pharmaceutical companies. Not all of us can be futuristic rocket surgeons with access to space technology like automatic recording devices

Toonami should air Maid Dragon tbqh

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>>91891195
This.

You guys need to stop with all the doomsday bullshit and pretending you know what's going on.

So I guess Fairy Tail is certain to air once HXH or TG go bye-bye right?

>>91891118
Why would it get cut in half again? Pretty sure even ASA ran longer than 3 shows.

>>91893551
>how to improve ratings immediately: the post

>>91893813
No, Fairy Tail airing on Toonami has always been and always will be a meme.

>>91893813
Toonami will be canned before HxH ends

>>91893850
At it's shortest it was 2 hours I think.

>>91878773
That scene was a big reason why I though it wouldn't make it to American TV, because that part piled on with all the other fan service made it seem an ill-fit for the tight-laced people at Toonami.

>>91878371
>clone wars
>shit

Neck your self

>>91879624
>guys we need DBZ!
>DBZ is keeping us alive!
Christ I want these fuckers to die. We clearly don't need to suck Dragonball cock to keep this block alive, and we've had Goku on this block for years now. Off with him already.

>>91880069
Water 7 and Enies Lobby are great arcs, some would even call them the best part of the entire series. The anime butchered Enies Lobby, but Water 7 was still fantastic and people were enjoying the show during that arc. But Enies Lobby in the anime squandered a lot of that goodwill with its horrid pacing and putting 5 fucking recap episodes in the middle of the arc at the most dramatic point for no reason. And if I'm remembering correctly that happened right after the disastrous Month of Movies so basically One Piece came back from a month-long hiatus into another month-long recap of the entire series. It never recovered from that.

>>91883522
Not hard when the only anime airing on the block are shitty garbage made for tweens + one very old show everybody has seen 10 times at the very end of the block that nobody wants to stay up for after watching 3 hours of shit.

>>91887721
I don't. Jack being amazing is a miracle. Normally this kind of thing ends very badly. It only worked because the series creator was the one behind it and he got his dream team together to do it properly. That almost never happens. Normally get shit like New Powerpuff Girls or the abomination that the new FLCL is going to be, shit made without any of the original creative staff, made by some other studio, motivated entirely by profit.

>>91891195
We keep ourselves in a constant state of pessimism because that way we can only be pleasantly surprised when things turn out better than expected.

>>91894885
So longer than 3 shows. What does Adult Swim have to gain from cutting up Toonami further? The block doesn't have a good look if it has all that packaging, yet is somehow shorter than [as]'s identity-less previous block.

>>91895288
more FG reruns is what they gain

>>91888795
Your dream sucks, just like symbionic titan

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Forever best Toonami girl.

>wake up
>its only thursday
sigh...

did they stop airing JJBA?

>>91879639
no, SOB stands for Samurai of Bushido

>>91898491
Yep.

>>91898491
Part 2 ended, now they're taking a break to make room for Attack on Titan season 2, when that ends JoJo will come back

What will happen to Toonami after FLCL S2 & S3 are done airing?

>>91898491
Attack on Titan's premiere was bumped up a week for unknown reasons, Tokyo Ghoul was replaced by the last episode of Jojo's for a week.

>>91894964
Yea but back then we had Bleach to keep us alive

>>91895288
They gain better ratings by making room for Cleavland

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>>91898390
>wake up
>still alive

Damn...

>>91898545
Stop spreading misinfo, there is no confirmation when or even if Jojo will return

>>91899145
Literally no one cares about this FLCL reboot. It will be a small, forgettable hiccup. Jack had hype because it wasn't just a lazy nostalgia cashgrab. Original staff, original VAs, direct conclusion of an unfinished story etc. All FLCL has for it is that The Pillows will return