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Star vs Liggers

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What have you done to combat the ligger problem, /co/?
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>>91809529
first post for janna in season three
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>>91809529
I put a lizard in a blender and turn it on when i was little.
Does that count?
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>Starco was just confirmed canon in season 3

WHAT DID WE DO TO DESERVE A GREAT SHOW LIKE STAR VS???
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>>91809546
what is his age again?
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>>91809529
Look at this adorable critter. She is clearly for comfort, not abuse. Monstar is cute and perfect
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>>91809529
> "Let's see how long it takes before we're deported to /Trash/" Edition

As if the spammed OC isn't enough of a red flag to anyone looking to see when a fandom has overstayed it's welcome.
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why must disgusting neckbeards taint the innocence of a kids cartoon?
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>>91809606
She's a girl you stupid SJW.
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>>91809643
what was the reason again for /sug/ being moved? it was because no new eps and mods were amyfags right?
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>>91809575
>Thank you for your public service, anon! If you lean in close I'll give you your reward...
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>>91809649
>sjw
kek. "She" has the most masculine face in the show
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>>91809669
This is not a general.

/sug/ is a general. So when it's off-season, it isn't allowed.
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>>91809693
What's the difference between this and a general? Calling it a general in the OP?
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how does one systematically remove shippers? If I were to rate them it would be

shipfags
fanficfags
abusefags
sexualfags
lorefags

I do belive thats the heirarchy of faggotry. Tell me if I missed anything
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>>91809758
You sad you can't downvote people here?
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>>91809772
you happy you can ship here?
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>>91809529
are you implyings butthurts ?
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>>91809772
upvote
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>>91809758
You on top
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>>91809691
Insecure about your face are you anon?
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>>91809772
>>91809810
>disliking a comment because muh feelings

those are the greatest opinions with nothing to contribute
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>>91809871
Pointing it out makes you feel good, doesn't it?
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>>91809869
is that her va?
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>>91809704
Mods decide when something should be a general.

If you make a thread titled "Star vs general", it will be consistently deleted by mods, signaling they're in agreement about this not being a general.

Generals have a few hallmarks, including
>titled "general" in the subject, possibly numbered.
>an OP that acts like a directory/infodump, e.g. a bunch of links and latest news.
>one active thread—if more than one is made, mods usually delete the other ones
>you can only make a new general thread when the old one reaches page 10—again, mods delete ones made too early
>cross-linking to the new thread in the old thread is allowed (it normally is not)

Generals are mainly used to reduce thread spam, as making lots of threads about one topic bumps perfectly good threads off the board (generals can also be used for special-topic threads, e.g. draw threads). In our case, the post rate of SvtFoE posters is too low to warrant a general.

Generals also have some negative connotations on /co/, but this might be more of a reflection of the types of shows that gather large/active fandoms than anything else.
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>>91809758
>tfw lore, bully, ficfag
Where do I sit given my many allegiences?
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>>91809903
yeah. a bit. Its just that I really dislike how the thread lives on through these things that arent related to the story. This thread can be much more than its current state
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>>91809950
>he doesn't like the OC being produced
You just need to become one with the shitpost, lad. Everything will be better if you just let it happen
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>>91809950
It can but it won't bend to your will. Enjoy the waves of shitposting splashing on your face.
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>>91809949
about third place
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>>91809905
Nope. This is.
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>>91809529

I made this.
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How is Monstar getting away with having her own thread? I love it.
https://pastebin.com/UMGWbXbb
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Reposting drunk Toffee rant because it's too glorious not to.
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Hey, Vsauce! Michael here...

There is a web board on the internet called "4chan."

One of the sections of this website is called "/b/"

The purpose of /b/... is to be... completely random...

But what if... /b/... stopped... being random...

What if every post made... on this board was just... a copy... of a previous post

What if every post was literally a copy of a copy... of a copy...

What if instead of "random"... they were named something else... something more accurate of a description...

What if they were called... "copy & paste" instead...

What if /b/ ... became /cp/...

But what if...we changed the meaning...of /cp/...

What if instead of /cp/ meaning "copy & paste"...we gave it a different name...

What if we called it...child pornography...

Child pornography...is illegal...but 4chan users don't care...

There are more...loli threads...than there are...random threads...

What if loli pedophiles...left /b/...so it was random once again...

And as always...thanks for watching!
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>>91809615
let me help you out there buddy
we need more cute Monstar, and fast
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Can someone explain this OC recolor to me?
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>>91810162
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>>91810162
>>>/facebook/
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>>91810173
Star as some sort of mutt from a Moon X Toffee romp.

No one likes her in this scenario, and she gets called racial slurs on the reg.

But she's uguu kawaii
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>>91810173
the design originated from kabuki-akuma on tumblr, as part of their Moon x Toffee AU. /co/ latched on to it pretty quick once they realised Monstar had an even greater capacity for suffering than regular Star plus she's super freakin cute
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>>91809758
>dislikes even lore and fanfic
Maybe fandom isn't for you if you're that anti-imagination. Are you that one autist who tries to keep policing other people and whine that people shouldn't talk about things he doesn't deem relevant?
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>>91810219
No. He's saying that of all the fags lore are best and ship is worst. Tbh fics are only now even SLIGHTLY coming back into vogue. They've been taboo for like a half a decade at least.
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Jackie is for bullying
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>>91810219
n-no this is my only post complaining. I am a lorefag at heart and look up some fanfics but dont you think it gets stagnant when nothing new is discussed?
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>>91810273
Between Harry Potter and 50 shades, there's a reason. It's really hard to find diamonds in the rough in the writers' equivalent of open mic night. 4chan is a good filter for slightly autistic fanfics that don't get too cringe.
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>>91809529
>ligger problem
I see no problem with keeping lizards happy.
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>>91810320
Somewhat. Jannys have ONLY NOW started to ease up on green text, though. It was bannable in these threads awhile back. Same with posting discords for some reason.
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>>91809758
Top of the list should be people complaining about other people
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>>91810350
So they have something to lose? Like collateral and coercion? Nice my man. This thread is a fountain of learning.

>>91810368
t. Starcuck shipper trash
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>>91810391
Good morning!
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>>91810429
Nig would NEVER hurt me, faggot. Also I hadn't noticed until but you're off-site filth.
Care to fucking leave?

Here's a picture to remember your time here with.
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>>91810391
>talks about adding quality
>adds nothing but complaints and pointing out things he doesn't like
Welcome to the shitposting club
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Good evening gentle men, how goes this thread?
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>>91810610
>Oh hey dad- DAD?! oh no I need to hide everything
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>>91810610
More or less this for right now.
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>>91810464
Seems I have no choice but to knock you down!

Boa noite preto viado!
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>>91810656
>MonStar has a Marco shrine instead of the closet of secrets.
I suddenly want this.
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Now that Marco and Star are out of school the earth turds can be dropped. Alphonso and Ferg are already dropped because they were just normal dork friends. Jackie will be replaced by Kelly for the same reason
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>>91810656
>now star we've talked about your fanfics already. While that is nice, you could be doing better with your spells. Do brush up on your training soon okay?
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>>91809869
She's very masculine but I still want to impregnate her and give birth to my own Gaston.
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>>91809758
Lorefags are cancer. Keep your head canon and theories on redditumblr
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>>91810699
Is daron our gal? Im sure she left these scenes for us
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>>91810777
Is Monstar a fujoshi who doesn't shower and doesn't go outside other than for school? Is that why she dresses up as a maid all the time?
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>>91810840
Daron is a big woman for us and her prime iteration of Star was based around her childhood of being autistic and lonely.

I dare to say it, she's /ourgirl/
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>>91810185
Hekapoo is sad she's lost Marco
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>>91810185
I dont get it
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>>91810368
>>91810429
>>91810671
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>>91810162
If your post doesn't take at least 7 minutes to read, you aren't doing it right.
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>>91810847
hmm even though tom and her was a thing, she did like alfonso and that other guy and she does like shipping people so there's a pretty decent chance she is
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>>91810747
At least Jackie was somewhat enjoyable
And last I checked Janna was a human too
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>>91809615
post the full picture i want to see her feet
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>>91811017
footfags
B E G O N E
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>>91810185
how is he so cute
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>>91810747
Oscar will help star straighten up emotionally. Toffee will be the first to be addressed and somehow mewni will be fine
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>>91811044
Oskar is going to be more relevant than jackie, lol
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>>91811017
of course. as an aside, I'll whip up some fresh new edits tomorrow probably, but this is still my favourite one I've done
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>>91810292
No bullying!
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>>91811078
Well if you happen to find time tomorrow for an edit.
How abuot regular star feeding eggs to MonStar
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>>91811078
>"Crystal Clear" is now an allegory to racist cops in this AU
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>>91811036
>not wanting to cum on Star's perfect princess feet and soles
Pathetic
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What does Monstar's skin feel like, /co/?

Is it slick and smooth like a lizard's, only without scales?
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>>91811078
I may not like like monstar but you have bretty good anatomy man
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>>91811078
OTP
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>>91810144
Fuck me I knew this would happen. Why the hell did I read this? Lovy dovy stuff is hard to digest for me but GOD was it a sweet lovy dovy.
God fucking damn you, anon. I hate it. But I love it oh so god damn much. But I hate it.
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You now realize Monstar had to learn how to keep her feminine parts clean from her dad because her mom doesn't have a cloaca.

It was an awkward day.
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>>91811041
Because he's dust.
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Oh fuck
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>>91810185
what is the reason marco left the spotlight when he is clearly the guest of honor?
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>>91811126
I'll chuck it on my eventually list. I got a buttload of requests over the last few threads that I'm keen to do and they're gonna take me ages

>>91811176
Cheers man, that means a lot to hear- I'm not (yet) a drawfag so figuring out how to add those extra details has been a struggle so far
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>>91811274
Because he's still just a guest.

This is an event for Star and the royal family, he isn't part of it.
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>>91811257
Is that... Supposed to be Toffee's finger? If it is, then holy hell nice find.
If not well. What the heck is it?
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>>91811257
does this mean glossaryck beat the meat?
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>>91811296
>>91811257
looks more like a goblin dog to me
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>>91811257
i dont know about the circled parts but
>Star's issues about her mother strangling her is depicted by a reptile/snake strangling her
>forshadowing a reptile spy impersonating her mother
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>>91811274
He leaned out on the words "the royal family," I think
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>>91811257
Oh FUCK, there would be no reason to draw that without a plan.
That might actually be Toffee's dick!
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>14 year old who self admittedly grew up on TV.
>Body image issues and insecurity
>Parents who are not present most of the time.
>Biggest friends are two losers and one brony manchild.
>Constantly fucks up and spergs out around his crush whom he couldn't talk to for years.

We need more Marco suffering.
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>>91811381
sheeeeiitt there was this pic where star was coerced by toffee in exchange for the safety of marco this must be canon just not mentioned
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>>91810144
>MFW I realize that this would only take like 2-4 days of continuous work to storyboard
>mfw I imagined each scene in vivid detail and would know exactly what to draw
I neither have that time to give nor do I have the will to do it, NOR do I feel like any kind of free project deserves that much work.
That said though, might be good practice. Need to get into writing again. Progressing from comic writing to full blown animation writing might be a nice and interesting change of pace.
THAT SAID THOUGH, I can't even draw comics how I want them to be. So drawing for an animation seems way out of my league.
Practice makes perfect?
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>>91811381
>>91811490
Please Lizard dicks don't look like that
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>>91811461
this is too real to feel

Why anon why must you point out reality
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>>91811461
That's a bretty gud concept. Kind of overdone, but this amount of suffering pleases me.
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>>91810144
I've read this like 3 times by now. where did I go wrong in life?
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>>91811571
star says
>anon you only reached 3 inches?
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>Good Guy Toffee

I'm not sure I can get used to this guys
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>>91811461
she exists. in another dimension.
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>>91811656
This help?
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>>91811656
Toffee is better as a bad guy, but shippers would have you believe a monster like him is capable of love.
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>>91811656
>implying Toffee isn't already the good guy
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>Star VS introduces the concept of dimensions
>An infinite amount of dimensions means an infinite amount of possibilities

Monstar is now canon
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>>91811461
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>>91811685
if the universe is infinite, anything is possible, therefor all is true.
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>>91811688

Sauce?

The diamonds are a nice touch.
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>>91811732
You've only figured this out now?
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>>91811732

I wanna see Good Toffee and Bad Toffee fight now
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>>91811688
man moon is more waifu material than star will ever be
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>>91811461
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weird request

if anyone follows atomicmangos on tumblr/sees her art, you know she does a lot of Star Vs art with older/more realistic (art style) Star and Marco (on prom, etc.)

yet I distinctly remember a semi-NSFW Starco piece she did that someone posted in a Star vs thread on /co/

was that an edit? Don't remember what it was/looked like other than "this art style looks like hers, didn't know she did semi-NSFW Starco"
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Everyday I get shittier, why should
I keep trying...
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>>91809546
Does the chin bump bother anyone else? I always thought of it as a slight blemish on the perfection that is Janna.
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>>91811816
Agreed
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>>91811773
http://kabuki-akuma.tumblr.com/post/152180175538/when-she-goes-all-mewberty-on-you-told-ya-1
tonnes of other moon x toffee and Monstar there too.
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>>91811863
Why doesnt Moon just kidnap Marco and ride his Diaz till he passes out several times?
who is gonna stop her?
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>>91810144
I ignored pastebins until now.
Good job to whoever made this.
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>>91811855
better than anything I can do man. Keep it up. A lot of it's probably that you're learning enough to know how bad you are, conscious incompetence and all that.
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>Thinking about the "Toffee was assassinated, that's why Monster was sent to Earth" headcannon.
>A religious fanatic faction of the royal court won't stand for ligger royalty
>Moon has to distance herself from her daughter to maintain standing.
>Her potential new suitor (river, maybe?) also is vehemently against half monster abominations.

Make it stop, /co/.
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>>91811863
>ME; not Stan Lee.
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>>91811656
I find everything about that AU dumb myself, except for the actual Monstar.
She's such an adorable filthy ligger.
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>>91811946
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>>91811946
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>>91811947

I'd actually like if in the AU River is one of the only-if not the only barbarian-who is okay with MonStar and Toffee. It'd be a nice change, and also raise the stakes more when River is trying to defend them and gets overrun/nearly killed by his own clan for that.

It also kinda fits with River's personality of really not giving a shit about a lot of things and doing what he wants.
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>>91811947
>anti-ligger faction demands destruction of Toffee's memory
>all portraits, etc. of Toffee are burned
>Monstar isn't allowed to have a picture of her late father to remember him by
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>>91811207
Yesss, relish your hate, feel it make you strong as you realize that monstar is for cuddling!
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>>91811946
die
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Everybody type Star is a stupid ligger in chat
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>>91811938
Thanks anon, here have another
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>91811946
I suggest suicide.
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>>91812047
>chat
off yourself
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>>91812065
>
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>>91811946
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>>91811574
Only 3 times? I must have passed 30 by now.
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>>91812072
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>>91812070
>Not understanding the reference
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>>91811947
Considering just how powerful Toffee is, I can't really see that happening, although an assasination attempt could be what spurs him to send her to Earth. He's too smart to be poisoned and almost impossible to beat in direct combat, so you'd need a full army to oppose him.

With this being said, I like the idea of a radical anti-monster political party forming that Toffee cannot directly oust for fear of breaking the Mewnian/monster peace his marriage created, and Star being exposed to it early in her life.
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>>91811825
pussy magnet
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>>91811855
She looks deeply concerned
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>>91812047
>It's a "jokes about keemstar" episode
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>>91812070
don't you get it anon? it's a slightly obscure reference to an old livestream by fucking keemstar
y
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>>91812128
>>91812143
What did you mean by this?
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Monstar is worn down after getting bullied all day at Echo Creek. How do you cheer her up?
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>>91812165
>>91812113
>>91812143
>caring about people like Keemstar
>>91812185
give her something nice and warm
like a little heater
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>>91809546
>first post for
Fuck you
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>>91812185
A tail massage
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>>91812185
Cuddling and a movie

>>91812197
>not being the heater
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>>91812185
A movie, snugs and hugs
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>>91812213
Being MonStar's heater leaves to something more steamy. Cant do that immediately after school
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Need more cute stories about ligger lover marco. If you got em, post em
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>>91812185
I make her feel warm
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>>91811461
So S3 actually goes full Terabithia with Marco wandering SoCal thinking it's various alien dimensions

he finally defeats Toffee only to go lucid and realize he's murdered a hobo
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>>91812256
pastebin.com/5Zxj5JWn
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>>91812258
absolutely disgusting
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>>91812294
>he doesnt have the compassion to help a lonely Monstar lizard girl find some warmth
Fucking Plebeian. get outta my sight.
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>>91812185
Lovingly cradle her in my arms and gently stroke her hair until she feels better.
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>>91812185
Put her into her enclosure and feed her some dead grasshoppers and flies.
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Do Monstar's iridescent eyes shine in the dark?
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>>91812425
I'm gonna say they're like high vis jackets. They don't glow, but they pick up light really well.
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>Oh, hello there Anon! Its so nice to meet you, I'm MonSky, MonStar's obviously older and much more considerate and well mannered sister. Well, just a little bit about me, I'm 18 years old, I really like heat lamps, 100 watt lightbulbs and warm rocks to lay on. Uhhm, I like to be occasionally squirted with a spray bottle to make sure my skin stays hydrated. Massages do wonders too, especially now that I'm no longer a juvenile lizard and uhh, all my adult skin came in? Yea. Thats it. And I really like cuddling, especially with a guy who likes to hold me extra tight and not let me go until the morning. Say Anon, were you doing anything today? I was planning to bask in front of that place where the dryer lets out exhaust, you know, the one behind the house, but...now that you're here maybe you have some better ideas on how we-...I can keep warm?
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>>91809646
Why must a salmon swim up stream? Its in their nature.
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>>91812206
Patrician taste mate.

>>91812197
>>91812251
>>91812258

Yes, Monstars are for cuddling not bullying.

Well others can do the bullying, I'll do the cuddling.
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>>91812465
I'm glad this got finally made.
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>>91812465
ITS TIME TO TURN UP THE HEAT
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>>91812387
>dead
have you ever owned a reptile
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>>91812465
It was only a mater of time to be honest.
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>>91812465
I never saw the original Sky post. Now I really want to see it.
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>>91812465
I don't like this.

I mean, the reason Star was all over Anon and pretending to be 18 was because she didn't have Marco.

Why would MonStar need a MonSky alter ego when she has her Marco?

I'm also waiting for Sky to break Anon's heart now that Marco dumped Jackie and Star has her chance.
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>Monstar's parents are overthrown
>New government doesn't want to start precedent of aristocrats being killed by rebellion
>they imprison Monstar in a small cell with a flat rock for a bed
>she's not allowed to wear clothes like she's a normal person
>sometime when her heat lamp burns out they don't get around to replacing it for days
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Reminder Toffee is black, hence the best black character of all time.

Also my waifu MonStar is black too.
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>>91812570
Actually, he's gray.
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>>91812550
Ohh cmon I just did it for fun, like every other Sky post I do.

It doesn't have to be consistent with the Autistic Universe (AU)
>>91812541
Here's the original Sky post. It was followed by a very long winded shitstorm of which I took heavy part of.
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>>91812570
MonStar is a lizard monster girl, anon.
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>>91812550
>Why would MonStar need a MonSky alter ego when she has her Marco?

Since nothing is cannon, everything is permitted. Even an AU where Marco still has a crush on Jackie and distances himself from Star so he doesn't get bullied, too. Monstar knows you're interested, but don't want to get V&
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>>91812570
Sorry Dumblr, but this lizard is gray.
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>>91812550

>mfw when I realize that AU monstar doesn't get cucked.
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>>91812591
I know, I don't dislike MonSky.

I just feel like there needs to be a clearer reason for her to exist.
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>>91812541
>Hey anon! Its me Sky Butterfly, Star's leag aged sister, speaking of Star, She told me to tell you that she went on a date with that Oskar guy, so it'll be just me and you tonight! So you want to go to the sandwich dimension with me? hear there's this new deli there with some new magic mustard!
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>>91812550
I'm sleeping withSky right now YOU CANT TAKE THIS AWAY FROM ME REEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>91812465
I have this meat thermometer that I can put into you to make sure you're warm, just give me a second

*unzips dick *

Now spread your legs
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>>91812636
But Anon, thats not the original, thats just a bastardized version of my "magical mustard" version.

You know you wanna try the mustard that makes you see dead spirits, or maybe you and Sky should try the "Hot" mustard. I'd just be ready to get wild.
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>>91812550
It's funnier if anon's not interested in Sky at all and is just making excuses not to go out with her but she keeps bothering him.
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>>91809529
Oh like L instead of N.
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>>91812700
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>>91812700
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>>91812692
I AM TRYING HERE OKAY, LET A NIGGA LEARN
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>>91812700
Waste of dubs
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>>91812740
>Eden Sher will never say "wat up NIGGAAAA" in Star's voice.


Just fucking kill me famglia.
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>>91812185
Give her my body for warmth and cuddles. A lot of love.
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>Star: "Wait, hold on, what's this all about? I thought you were with Jackie."

>Marco: "Not anymore."

>Star: "Even still, you can't just hop on me like I'm some sort of Silver Medal."

>Marco: "I thought you liked me!"

>Star: "I did, but things have changed."

>Marco: "STAR, I'M POSITIVE ABOUT HOW I FEEL ABOUT YOU NOW. I CAME HERE FOR YOU!"

>Star: "AND THAT'S GREAT, BUT WHAT WERE YOU EXPECTING?"

>Marco: "ME AND JACKIE AREN'T TOGETHER ANYMORE BECAUSE OF YOU!"

>Star: "I DIDN'T TELL YOU TO BREAK UP WITH JACKIE!!!!!"

>Marco: "...... I didn't...... She broke up with me..... Because I couldn't stop thinking about you...."

>Star: ".....that's not my problem, Marco...."

Marco suffering time.
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>>91811461
Star without Star
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>>91812770
Marco deserves it.

Star, you go girl!
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>>91812770
>Trying this hard
The OOC in this post is delicious.
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>>91812770
THIS SHIT GOT ME ON THE EDGE OF MY SEAT.
>inb4 marco becomes C_U_CK_KING in season 3
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>>91812770
I've been thinking about how they'd keep the shipbaiting up after the finale. This is the best possibility I've read yet.
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will Marco come out as trans in season 3?
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>>91812770
Just watch as it's made clear he doesn't have feelings for her yet.
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>>91812770
NEFCY HAS SPOKEN
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>>91812770
Have Star start showing signs off falling for Tom again (or a new love interest) and this would be perfect
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>>91812935
if that happens anon, i fear i may end up masterbating in public in LA while also rubbing my balls on a cheese grater because of my panic attack
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>>91812851
Where's the c u c k edit?
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>>91812967
Then Nefcy sees you. She goes home happy, glad that she's made a difference in people's lives.
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>>91812935
We already did the "will Star develop feelings for someone else?!?" thing in Starcrushed with Oskar. It exploded on the launch pad. I'm pretty sure they won't go right back there again.
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>>91812770
Do you know what I want for an end game? Both not getting what they want. Both split up, Marco continues his life, and Star becoming Queen.
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Sorry not sorry ligger lovers
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>>91813052
Can't you go a little bit more into detail? That sounds like it sucks.
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>>91813062
Is this cum?
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Does Monstar wear special panties to accommodate her tail?
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>>91813052
The Phillip Pullman strategy
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>>91813052
How about something like this instead, ligger.
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>>91813090
>Does Monstar wear panties
no
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>>91811461
Post the Star isnt real caps pls
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>>91813090
you sure do ask this an awful lot
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>>91813052
This. I'd even be okay with Marco getting back with Jackie eventually, but not until after he's had his heart crushed by both her and Star because of his wishy-washy behavior. Star tries to make it work with Marco, but she's already moved on in her heart, and has found somebody who truly loves her with all his heart, despite his flaws (whether that be Tom or someone else).
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>>91813090
No.
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>>91813134
The world needs to know.
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>>91813071
>>91813097
I like to keep it vague. Sue me!
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>>91813144
That just sounds like a huge fucking retcon though. This isn't a tragedy and you know its not even going to remotely end like that. Whats the whole point of this if at the end they're just all depressed and or paired off with people who aren't introduced. What a fucking copout that would be. People complain Starco is too predictable but if they pulled the regular show ending I'd never watch the show again.
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>>91813190
This

Either they don't become a couple but still stay best friends, or a Starco ending.
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It could save your life.
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>>91812465
I hear ovens are pretty warm.
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>>91813230
ligger Star will probably get cucked by a mermaid
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>>91813231
Stop it Hitler!
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i don't watch this show, what ep is the lizard one from?
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>>91813230
Cuck Star is literally an 11/10 girl in real life. I'd make out with her if you know what I mean.
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>>91813190
>Whats the whole point of this if at the end they're just all depressed and or paired off with people who aren't introduced.
Because fiction has more to offer than make you feel better about yourself
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>>91813230
Lizard Star would get cucked by Mermaid Manatee Jackie.
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>>91809546
>>91809597
>Starco was just confirmed canon in season 3

>Not Janco

THE AGE OF JARCO HAS ENDED, THE AGE OF JANCO HAS BEGUN!

Suffering for both major ships.
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>>91812290
Monstar should be on that 'Defects' shelf
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>>91813282
WE ALL KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN ANON
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>>91813284

yea but shitty storytelling for no good reason (no, "let's screw over the characters totally and ignore the relationships they've built up" is not good storytelling) is shit
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>>91813322
STOP IT!
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>>91813282
>turning down crazy, wild, and steamy hot MonStar sex
fucking fag
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>Everyone likes and hates Monstar
>But not the other AU
What the fuck is this shit! At least post Cat Star instead!
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>>91813284
>Oskar coming back in season 3 and kissing Star is an example of good writing because fiction isn't supposed to make you feel good

Listen here you edgy retard you better drop this act right now
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>>91813231
>Aww Anon, that's so cute, I already sleep there all the time. I like 425 myself, thats my ideal baking temp. Hey Anon, wanna help me molt this skin with some love friction? C'mon, I'll even let you pull my hair and call me a dirty ligger. I know how you like treating me like a dirty little liz-slut. What do you say Anon, do you wanna molest my tail with those nimble human hands of yours? Wanna run your tongue all over my sharp teeth? C'mon anon, you can be the prey tonight, we'll switch off tomorrow. I want my little humie all scared and docile against the mean ol lizzie. Then tomorrow you can throw me around treat me like a dirty little ligger... ahhh yea that's so hot...
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>>91813190
So it's gotta be Star, Jackie, or no one then
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>>91813374
>dat tail wiggle
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>>91813374
[Inquire about the primary sexual characteristics of Monstar goes here]
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>>91813387
S-stop... lewding the l-ligger...
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>>91813277
its not in the show, Its Alternate Universe that someone made up where Star is a Monster and an Offspring to her Canon mom and Toffee(The shows lizard species bad guy)
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Hey uh, guys. I would just like to point out...
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>>91813387
>I want my little humie all scared and docile against the mean ol lizzie.
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>>91813436
you guys are fucking losers
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>>91813445
STARCO IS CUTE AND PERFECT!
CUTE AND PERFECT!

Shitposting for shitposting's sake. What have I become?
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>>91813436
I wonder how many anons watched this show just for the ligger episodes that never happened.
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>>91813455
There are better places to be
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>>91813455
Lighten up.
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>>91813463
Literally me.

>>91813461
Why i see the town burning?
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>>91812908
>Marco gets over his Jackie obsession and sees her as just a normal girl
>Starco happens sorta until Marco confesses to Star he's asexual in season 3 finale
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>>91813387
S-stop right there! Monstar is for c-cute only!

I AM FUCKING ERECT RIGHT NOW.
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>>91813277
None of them.

It's an AU where Star's mother fucked the main villain instead of Star's father and so Star's half-lizard-monster.

For whatever reason these threads now have a fetish for "Monstar" and have been focusing on her for the last week or so.
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Wait a minute. I just realized... The other Star, the one that's just a pair of legs that appeared twice already? THATS FUCKING SKY MAN! SKY IS ACTUALLY CANON!
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>>91812908
I don't mind
As long as (s)he will wear a dress
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>>91813500
DONT FORGET ABOUT SKY ASWELL, SHE IS IN MY DEEPEST THOUGHTS
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>>91813445
Yes, Star, we already know how flat you are.
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>>91813497
that asexual shit killed all my hype for Bojack Horseman
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And so it goes
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>>91809643
All the Star fandom seems to really know is shipping, 'cuckmeming', and Star Bullying/suffering. They can't simply enjoy a series without being able to let their degenerate fetishes control them.
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>>91813455
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>>91813551
but anon putting minorities in your tv show makes it better

the smaller and more insignificant the minority the better
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>>91813386
I didn't imply that fiction making you feel bad is good either you mongoloid.
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>>91813387
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>>91813563
I blame the horsefuckers.
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>>91813563
I just want to watch cute flat-chested young girls suffer, anon.

Is that so wrong?
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>Jenna battles the patriarchy

I'm worried this will become a running joke/theme in Season 3, lads.
It annoys me though because she has a crush on a dead guy and Marco. Her patriarchy thing seems forced.
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>>91813496
>Why i see the town burning?
Because the future is bright.
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>>91813551
I was extremely pissed off having marathoned it on Netflix the night it came out then hearing that shit at 6AM. It isnt even that bad on its own but with everything else that season it really drained how much I cared for the next season
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>>91813563
>They can't simply enjoy a series without being able to let their degenerate fetishes control them.
if thats enough to get a series sent to /trash/ this board would lose alot of threads
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>>91813563
>People having fun joking around
>People creating original art and edits
>People writing fun greens that are just little one shots or jokes
>People discussing alternate universes

HURR DURR SHIPPING, KEKMEMES, BULLY AND SUFFER HURR DURR...

I mean I know this is bait, but I can guarantee the few voices in this thread similar to yours are a very vocal and annoying minority. If you don't like the thread, go and fuck yourself off as soon as possible. I've been here since November, Its not even NEARLY as bad as it was a couple months ago.

We need more shoulders, by the way.
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>>91813190
This is what I hate about Starcofans, we're too fucking divisive, this is why we turn on each other.

Some are like, yeah Starco has to happen, but the end result doesn't matter if it's a good story.

Other's are rabbid, "It must be endgame or we riot."fags who don't really care who we get it as long as it's endgame, even if the sappy predictable happily ever after shit happens with Star and Marco as King and Queen of Mewni. I'm Starco to the grave and even I think that would be fucking garbage. Who would want that?

Like fucking why does it even matter if Daron Nefcy delivers a beautiful story?
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>>91813230
Being cucked is worse than being raped by Marco
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>>91813496
from up here the city lights burn
like a thousand miles of fire
and I'm here to sing this anthem
STARCO IS CUTE AND PERFECT
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>>91813387
I am more of a vanilla with a bit of rough type of guy 2bh.
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>>91813625
can someone explain to me whats killed the hype for Bojack, i never watched it but id like to know. Thanks
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>>91813525
Princess Marco is too funny and progressive for Disney to leave alone. Search your feelings; you know it to be true.
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>>91813636
THANK YOU.

It's one thing to be Starco, but don't Starco so hard that you would take a shit delivery or endgame, just to have your wish fulfilled.
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is this Starco?
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>>91813609
>Is that so wrong?
I don't really see the appeal of honestly enjoying wanting to see a character suffer for little to no reason at all other than the sake of it.

Well, I guess if that's your fetish. If it is, then okay then. It isn't like fetishes are logical or easily explained.
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>>91813729
https://youtu.be/55fzXL3uc1s
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We ss13 now?
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>>91811736
<iframe width="854" height="480" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/XS9gUUFz6Ps" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe>
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>>91813643
Depends. When he was done, did he run his finger through his hair while telling her how nicely she did, that she's a well behaved ligger and that she should get herself ready for more tomorrow?

Because if not, that's just plain rude.
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>stop having fun with things I dislike
>why can't all of you be like me?
It's too sad when you see somebody not get along even with a group of autists.
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>>91813729
THIS is my fetish
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>>91813636

What's inherently wrong with Star and Marco as King and Queen of Mewni though?

I mean yea I want good writing over everything else (because badly written Starco taints it), but what's wrong with that specifically?

And I think there's way too much value placed on "edgy shit/twists for the sake of them existing" in these threads, but that might just be me
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>>91813785
>that face
If you value your life, do not post anything else with that face attached again in this thread.
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>>91813627
every thread
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>>91813616
It was mentioned literally once
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>>91813792
Its ok. Apparently subverting tropes just for the sake of it is "Good writing". It isn't. Its literally just doing something to be a contrarian. If you though Star and Marcos rise to the throne would be conventional, you're completely mistaken as well.
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>>91813809
Problem?
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>>91813856
Stop it you fucking subhuman.
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>>91813829
It's also mentioned in the book.
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>>91813320
Wait, what?
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>>91813634
Goodness, anon, no need to get so pissed off over the obvious being pointed out, because the majority of Star vs threads do tend to go in that direction most of the time.

And as for original art, edits, and AUs? Those can be fantastic and enjoyable. I honestly love the 'Lizard Star' AU because she's adorable.

Don't get so defensive, Anon. It'll all be fine.
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>>91813792
There's nothing wrong with that aside from the predictability, but I don't want that shit to be some easy walk in the park to get to from the moment Starco is established. I don't want Star and Marco's only real challenge from that point is to not die to the "big bad". I want drama and a rough road for Starco. That's more realistic to me, then "Star and Marco got together, then saved the day and lived happily ever after forever on Mewni." Give me some grit. Its doesn't have to be tragic, but make it "real".
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>>91813896
Where did you find this picture of me?
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Okay guys, what if Star dies at the end but Marco is pregnant
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>>91813387
n-no

M-monster is for cute not lewd
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>>91813636
I'm in the former category of Starco. I don't really care what happens beyond just getting a few episodes of them being canonically in a relationship.
Really it'd be the best of both worlds if by the end of S3 Starco is in full effect and by the end of S4 something unpredictable happens.
Though I'd love it more if S3 has some more tricks up it's sleeve to postpone full Starco all the way till mid S4, just not end S4.
I am so tired of getting just one gleaming, beautiful shot of a satisfying ship finally reaching its destination and then a disappointing "Happily ever after." cliche.

Sure I'd be a little bit bummed out if Starco sank along with the end of the show but I wouldn't riot about it. Like you said, if it's a good story, it's a good story.
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>ADAM OR NEFCY PLS HURRY THIS UP!
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What if Starco happens, but Star and Marco aren't able to have children?
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>>91813387
Is your tongue lizard-like as well?
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>>91813976
Make Jackie have the baby.
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>>91812550
>implying Marco won't go for Janna

there's a reason she was the only other human in the intro
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>>91813889
As a reference to that episode.

Most of that book was just referencing stuff that already happened
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>YWN be friends with monstar
>YWN comfort her
>YWN teach her about human society

why even live
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Doodlin
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>>91813976
Why?

What the fuck is the point of that? Can't they just be happy? Why do you have to ruin it with this?
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Cute and perfect!
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>>91809615
If you cut her exactly in half would she become double?
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>>91813991
>Lets find out.... Bend over.
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>>91813976
Stupid.
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>>91812822
most threads since the intro sneak peek have been wild speculation and OOC shitposting
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>>91813387
>trying to plan out writefaggotry for the thread
>not wanting to do lewd for a while
>immediately want to do lewd after this

god dammit
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>>91813918
>Give me some grit. Its doesn't have to be tragic, but make it "real".
I'll be the first one to point out that your asking these things from a cartoon for kids.
But alright, I agree with you. Like I really do. But tell you what.
Currently, Marco is in a relationship with Jackie. That still needs to be resolved.
Tom looks like he's going to be spending time with both Marco and Star in S3. You really think Tom's not going to try something with Star? He's going to make moves.
We don't even know if the new S3 opening confirms Starco. All we know/can speculate on is that eventually, somehow, Jackie is going to be left out of the main group.
So I imagine we won't even see full Starco till the start of S4 because of all the stupid teen drama that's going to ensue in the middle of S3.
That enough "realism" or "grit" for you? No bully. Like straight just asking.
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>>91814033
Cute and perfect!
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>>91813976
That would be like a stab in the gut.

Starco kids come with the package or fuck it.
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>>91813282
>flat as a board autismo retard
>"11/10"

If this were real life all the boys would be fawning over the big-breasted girls e.g. Jackie.
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>>91814016
>can't WE just be happy
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>>91814002
Marco wishes Janna was dead.
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>>91813991
>>91814050
>>91814088
>"Dont worry anon, i got a way to lube ya up!"
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>>91814050
>Using her tongue to lick my prostate
UNF!
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>>91813918

Of course, I agree with that.

I just think that people who want Star and Marco to not get together or to have heartbreak despite their best efforts, etc. don't realize that doing that just to subvert the expectation of Starco (which still isn't guaranteed) doesn't make it good storytelling

Mind you I still want loads of hardship and more slow buildup to Starco, because that's more realistic and gives more chances for character depth and for us to sympathize with/root for them
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STOP IT

MONSTAR IS NOT FOR LEWD
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>>91813387
why does lewding the ligger feel so good?
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>>91812908
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>>91814224
see

>>91814215
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>>91814050
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>>91814016
>>91814054
>>91814106
This just goes to prove the point that some Starcofags only give a shit about their "white picket fence, eternal happiness, and a minivan" ending. It has to fit their definition of what love and a happy ending is, or else it's garbage.
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>>91814224
Because it's what they're bred for.
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>>91813729
Star deserves it though, she's retarded.
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>>91814256
Excuse them, we aren't all like that. Frankly I don't even care if we don't get a timeskip end.
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>>91814256
This just goes to show that people who use the term "starcofags" unironically are opinionated and think that this show should end in suffering cause "Muh tropes" "muh predictability". You only want it to end in suffering so you can relate. Godforbid the show has a happy ending Anon. Who hurt you?
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>>91814224
Lewd Monsters are usually 5 times hotter than regular.
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>>91814275
No they're not. Liggers are people too!

#LiggerLivesMatter
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>>91811288
How do you make your lines so clean?
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>>91814315
>Not #Lizardlivesmatter
Even your subconscious agrees Liggers are an inferior race
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>>91812290
More?
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>>91814349
Start by drawing a line.
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>>91809649
Looks more like a man than Marcos dad or River, kek

The ugly cunt
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>>91814349
erase the parts that arent clean, broad strokes, drink lots of water
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>>91814333
Oh please, next you'll start campaigning to free the slime girl farms.
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>>91814314
I'm sorry that your feeble mind can only handle base repetition and mass produced sequential input with no deviation from what you consider to be normal. I'm sorry that things need to be cute and perfect in your world or your autism flares up. I'm sorry, anon.


CUTE AND PERFECT FOREVER.

Let's suck each other's dicks now.
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>had a dream in which monstar makes Columbine look like a fucking joke by blowing up the school
I'm gonna stop browsing these threads at night
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>>91811041
RIP GOAT Goat.
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>>91814446
That'd just make her part of the cool crowd.
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>>91814224
This hurts so much to see... why would someone do this?
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>>91814256
The fact the people Starco this hard is really sad, I agree.

As Starco does happen in some form, I'm okay with it.
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>>91812692
star is pure and innocent
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>>91814455
He'll be fine
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>>91814224
liggers were built for child-bearing, it's only natural they activate your mating instincts and you feel an insatiable urge to enslave and impregnate them
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>>91814497
how new?
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>>91814224
>lewding
>not just purging as their existence taints the sanctity of this world
Heretics are as bad as xenos anon
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Alright anons:

take what you want out of the thread and turn it into a premise for a MonStar oneshot, and I'll see if I can write it
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>>91812770
This is fucking brilliant.

Thank you for the early spoiler, Nefcy.
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>>91814534
I'm not new... I just have feelings for cute things!
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>>91814534
I still don't understand this image, why does it exist?
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>>91814445
Here's an idea. If you want a drama story with long strife and misunderstandings and long periods of not knowing. How about finding and reading an adult drama book or watch a movie instead of watching a slice of life/monster fighting cartoon?

I just wanted a fun cartoon to watch to kill a weekend and relax after a month of stress over my studies. Well I got that, but now I'm also stuck in wanting to see Star overcome all of her problems, which includes her crush for Marco.
Why are you here if all you want is drama and high grade unpredictable storytelling?
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>>91812908
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>>91814582
it is literally an assortment of requests put together in one.
Just like this one, by the same artist.
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>Haven't been in the thread for a few months
>Remember people thought MonStar was meh
>This thread
What the hell did I miss?
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>>91814568
Just make this. >>91810093
Most of the work is already done.
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>>91814568
MonStar rises up against the bullying and exterminates all humans, setting aside a certain portion of the population for breeding slaves.
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>>91814613
Okay no. That is not what I meant to link to. But holy hell is that misunderstanding hilarious.
I meant this. >>91810144
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>>91814584
Because some of us are rooting for more than one character
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>>91814568
>MonStar goes is sent to earth so no one knows Moon fucked a Monster
>MonStar getting bullied by the cheer leaders for being a Monster at school
>Marco defends her and they become close friends
>MonStar and Marco slowly start to fall in love
>the Cheerleaders rape Marco in front of Star
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>>91814636
Buddy,

I wrote that
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>>91814611
Accept your new lord and master
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>>91814646
>the Cheerleaders rape Marco in front of MonStar
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>>91814546
My Lord Inquisitor, why hasn't the creator of this chaos tainted abomination been purged yet?
>>91812908
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>>91814663
Oh. I figured you were the actual drawfriend and were going to make a comic. Silly me then.
Props on the great story though.
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>>91814646
>>91814674
That's how you get the cheerleaders killed and turn MonStar into a yandere.
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>>91812908
>entertaining the idea of that retarded theory
Back to Tumblr you go.
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>>91814646
I like this except for the last part
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>>91814711
>yandere
Why stop there?
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>>91814645
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>>91814663
Have you finished your story about the movie date yet?

Also, is Jackie still in that story, given recent events?
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>>91811692
Dude, that piece of art is fucking awesome

Also yeah, Toffee makes a great villain, but the shipping faggots would rather having everything fucking.

>>91811736
>>91813767
God I love this site

>>91811461
Marco suffering is all I want right now. 4chan doesn't want Marco so suffer though, so I can only get the sweet nectar of pain from the show itself.
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>>91814611
We realized her potential for suffering is unmatched.
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>>91814646
>implying monstar wont get the good dicking from pick related and forget all about puny marco
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>>91814568
Monstar snaps out after a particular day of abuse and recreates the events of mewberty day, but with pain and hatred driving her instinct
instead of lust.
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>>91813387
>liz-slut
FUCKING KEK
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>>91814731
>MonStar fed up with the bullying takes over the world
>has Marco chained up in her bedroom
>the skulls of the cheer leaders on her walls
>fucks Marco in front of their skulls every night
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>>91814646
>>91814711
>Marco is visibly traumatized by the rape
>MonStar starts comforting him too
>they grow immensely closer and delve into intimacy together as a result
>Brittney's fucking furious that it all backfired while she's being passed around in prison

Fund it

>>91814752
Working on it, planning to make Jackie her guide to Earthen dating customs/wingwoman. Jackie's chill enough that I can see her not caring that Star's a lizard
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>>91814645
I've been saying this shit for months.

Most Starcofags only want to see Star happy and hinge that happiness on her being with Marco because he's the only other main character.
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>>91814799
ALL
ACCORDING
TO
KEIKAKU
EARTH BELONGS TO THE MONSTARS ABOVE
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>>91814568
>Monstar is sent to Earth due to civil unrest in Mewni due to the whole king is a monster thing
>She is bullied by most people
>Marco defends her
>They become friends

No lewd pls
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>>91814804
Well, at least you found a use for Jackie after the show threw her away.
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>>91814849
see
>>91810144
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>>91814822
THIS.

Even if Star and Marco were okay with being just friends, Starcofags would still fucking go in hard.
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STARCO IS CUTE AND PERFECT!

CUTE AND PERFECT!
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>>91814905
>>91814822
That's part of being a shipper. Even if your ship has no chance in hell, you still go for it.
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>>91814568
Monstar escapes Mewni traumatized although she's still pure.
Trauma blocks her magic, she can't do spells.
She latches to Marco, quickly dependant, he thinks its sweet, wants to cuddle and help make the nightmares go away.
Cheerleader A is disgusted by Monstar, arranges to get her to see Marco cheating on her with random cheerleader.
Monstar goes full yandere route.
Oh shit, yandere monstar has no magic block.
BAD END.
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>>91814804
This is perfect.

>>91814568
You have a goldmine here, y'know.
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>>91814645
Well guess what. I'm rooting for Star and Marco. I'm rooting for Queen Moon and Ludo. I'm rooting for Buffrog, Rombulus and especially Glossaryck, seriously though I hope Glossaryck is actually still a good guy but is just playing God tier 4D chess..

It's just that I'm not the one who thinks that only ships matter and they for some reason need to be super realistic and overthought.
Why can't a ship just be simple in the midst of some seriously deep story telling around it?
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>>91814905
The story isn't built for them to just be friends.

At least, not right now. It would be a total cop out at this point to entertain the idea.

Things could develop that way but they're not there yet.
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>>91814822
Most people who watch this show only care about Star's happiness.
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>>91814998
It sort of sucks. At the very least you should care about Marco too, otherwise Starco becomes all about what star wants.
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>>91815023
It already is.

>inb4 but that's not how Marco really feels...
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>>91814876
Get outta town
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>>91814971
>Why can't a ship just be simple
Starco is a dinghy. I'm calling Starco a dinghy now.
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>>91812185
Tailrubs
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WHEN WILL THEY SHOW THE NEW INTRO TO EVERYONE ELSE
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>>91812908
Are (you) so desperate for (you)s that (you) have to post this shit every time?
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Who would win in a fight?

Monstar-verse Toffee or Star-verse Toffee
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>>91815078
No, even when Season 3 airs, they will black screen the opening to spite us
>>91815080
Star-verse Toffee currently has the wand so..
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>>91815037
So? How is that a point against Starco.
Marco's opinion will change with time.
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>>91814971
Because it's been established that the emotions resulting from said relationships are part of what's causing the bigger story to unfold the way it is. Specifically stars emotions corrupting her magic.

But Marco can't just fall into line with total romantic Starco immediately if his current character doesn't allow for it. He cares about her immensely, and is quick to act and (here's the key word) UNWITTINGLY forget about Jackie, but he's not really quick or sure about long term emotional decisions. He will hurt people. Including star, probably (even if he breaks up with Jackie - it may cause star to believe she was at fault).
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>>91815080
Why would she fight her dad?
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>>91815080
I'm thinking Star-verse Toffee.
I figure MonStar-verse Toffee would've lost some of his cunning and gotten a little rusty over the years of relative peace.
Star-verse Toffee has probably been planning and training all the time since he's been defeated by Moon.
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>>91812258
>cumming outside
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>>91814568
I actually don't want too many lewds.
Try to keep it cute and cuddly.
I want Marco to be her refuge from bullying and bad things.
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I WANT TO SEE THE NEW INTRO THIS IS NOT ENOUGH
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>>91814711
>that's how you get the cheerleaders pregnant and turn MonStar into a cuck
ftfy
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>>91815103
Maybe I'd take Marco's "supposed" feelings for Star more seriously if she wasn't a factor in Marco and Jackie's break up.

If Star had never admitted her feelings to him, and Jackie and Marco's relationship had self destructed on it's own, and eventually led to Starco, I'd take the whole "they were meant to be" thing seriously. That can't happen now, because Marco also has another reason pulling him away from Jackie and towards Star, guilt.
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>>91815118
Of course he'll hurt people. He's between a really big rock and a really hard place right now. His decisions now will decide a lot of things. There will be shit involved in the relationship department in the next season, you're right.
But what I want to know is if you have a problem with a Starco endgame, even after the obviously upcoming drama and ""realism""? And if so, why?
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>>91815181
you people have it
please just post a link already
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>>91815242
I don't particularly. I just want to make sure the consequences that come about as a result are resolved.
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>>91815257
>:3c
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>>91814033
Marco is not brown enough in this.
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>>91813792
>What's inherently wrong with Star and Marco as King and Queen of Mewni though?
>wanting filthy, inferior human scum as king of the mewmans
Why don't we chose a puppy for president, now that we're at it.
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>>91815321
>He doesn't know about Queen Diana the Depraved and her consort king, "Snuffles".
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>>91815221
I do think guilt is going to play a factor in Marco's decision, and you're correct if it plays out that way, then that does taint Starco to a degree. I don't know. Maybe the show will address that.
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>>91815221
>Jackie and Marco's relationship had self destructed on it's own
It neither would have existed without Star nor would it self destruct without Star.

>Mfw Star is a plot device in the Jarco ship
It goes full fucking circle doesn't it?
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>>91814314
>This just goes to show that people who use the term "starcofags" unironically
And this post goes to show that people making blatant generalizations of groups of people based on their asspull assumptions type "everyone who likes this character also likes that ship" or "everyone who likes this ship hates that other ship" or "anyone using x word or spamming y meme is like this" are absolutely retarded.

I unironically use __fag as a neutral descriptor for people who strongly like a ship or character. So do most people. welcome to 4chan, newfag.

It's retarded to try to sow discord through strawmanning or muh x ship bogeymen. You're acting as paranoid as that one anon who insisted on a few occasions that everyone who likes jarco must also unironically support trans marco, because if you like jarco you're fucked in the head and probably support everything wrong in the world, or something.
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>>91814568
Monstar and Marco go to the beach.
Marco assists her in rubbing tanning oil into her back scales.
Marco hopes she doesn't notice the tent in his trunks rubbing against her tail. Star hopes he doesn't notice her arousal Marco handling her tail.

Also, like to imagine Monstar, being part reptilian, lacks boobs and thus can go topless without taboo.
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>>91814646
>Shattered Marco dependent on yandere MonStar
>Cheerleaders start disappearing
>Every time MonStar kills off a cheerleader, Marco grows closer to her
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>>91815181
She's gonna teach Marco how to handle a blade, right?

RIGHT?
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>>91815264
>I just want to make sure the consequences that come about as a result are resolved.
Same here! And I'm sure that there will be consequences for the further actions of Marco! And I'm also sure that Jackie won't be dropped till at least half way into the season if at all! We actually came to sort of an agreement! Goodie goodie gumdrops!

I still ship Starco like a rabid dog though. Along with enjoying the story the rest of the cast is involved in. I can't wait to see what comes of S3
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>>91814532
i agree!

can somebody make a pic related to this?
>>91741843
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>there are people
>in this thread
>RIGHT FUCKING NOW
>that don't want Starco in early season 3

I-I can't comprehend this...
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>>91815500
Look at this, a rational exchange ended with agreement

Glad it came to this

I just get discomfort out of the prospect jackie getting shat on by the main cast and the show itself when she does nothing wrong. I get life's not fair, just don't think she deserves it. But I know she isn't the main character.
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>>91815451
First part yes.
Second DEFINITELY NO!

You do not remove the boobs from a monster girl

Pic related.
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>>91815590
i don't CARE about shipping
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>>91815272
>
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>>91815598
>I just get discomfort out of the prospect jackie getting shat on by the main cast and the show itself when she does nothing wrong.

Not the guy you were replying to but that's why I shit all over Jackie in these threads.

It has nothing to do with the fact that I like Starco.
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>>91815598
Oh I totally get where you're coming from and I totally agree.
And I get discomfort out of the prospect that some people don't want Starco to happen just because and only because them having an eventual relationship is somehow cliche or overdone.

But we figured out the kinks and found out that neither really want either of those things so it's all good. You, my friend, were fun to have a discussion with.
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Monstar is for opr8, not for bully
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>>91815590
We already talked about this. Marco breaks up with Jackie. Kelly breaks up with Tad.
Star bring her two friends together.
Star gets cucked again.
But then cute and perfect happens in season 4.
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>>91809529
Monstar is for comfort
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>>91815606
The key is putting your stats into booty in exchange for the stats loss on bust.

All my bottomheavy/flat dragongirl pics are lewd, so have this instead
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>>91815590
I want Starco to get proper build up before it happens. If it happens in early Season 3, that's boring and anti-climactic.
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>>91815700
>that guy who picks MonStar on hostage
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>>91815454
I like this!
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>>91815739
That's adorable. And now I want a Monstar version of it.
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>>91814007
nice expression
>>91815590
Like me.
I'm not a shipper but I would like Starco to be canon, HOWEVER!
I don't want the relationship with Jackie to end abruptly like her character and feelings don't even matter (inb4 "plot device lol"). Secondly, I wanto to see how Marco and Star's relationship (i.e. their friendship) will evolve with rhe new informatiom both of them now have about eaxh other. Finally, if Starco becomes canon too early I feel like it may crumble towards the end. Their relationship, in one way or the other is going to be relevant to the plot, so I would prefer not to see hasty steps.
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>>91815690
Glad to hear
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>>91815500
>>91815598

Exactly! Jackie's a good girl and she deserves someone who cares for her but ALSO wants to get to know who she really is.

Marco isn't that guy though, he's said he would be but his actions indicate otherwise. Jackie deserves better.
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>>91815778
Realtalk can two people even comfortably ride a normal skateboard?
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>>91815598
Marco doesn't really deserve her though.
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>>91815723
>no one gives her hugs
>so she hugs her own tail for comfort

reminds me of that numb-handholding thing
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>>91815778
>>91815810
What about the relationship abruptly ending and Jackie suffers for it? Is that okay with you?

Like, she's clearly human and hurt by Marco's choice but Marco is too focused on Star to notice that. The show would have to leave her behind but it could come back to deal with her feelings after Marco and Star come back to Earth.
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>>91815740
>I want Starco to get proper build up
>>91815778
>relationship with Jackie to end abruptly
>>91815810

What I don't understand now is why there's even a doubt in your guys' minds that there won't be any buildup to Jarco's possible/eventual breakup? I mean, don't y'all trust Nefcy?
She's given us such a great show already, why would she ruin it when she's clearly shown the capability to write a great story?
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>>91815824
>can two people even comfortably ride a normal skateboard?
Unless its a long board, not really.
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>>91815824
I tried it once, and the answer is a very firm No.
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Would Star and Monstar be friends?
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>>91809529
Lizard posters are more cancer than cinnamon posters and Princess Marco posters combined.
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>>91815824
I don't know, but that picture always gets me.
>>91815845
I do. I lurk actually, but I'm really enjoying it. That guy is pretty good.
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>>91815739
>>91815769
seconding this

monstar mum would be nice
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>>91815896
Post mewnipendence day maybe
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>>91815642
I don't have shit, I just found that pic of Kelly in Tumblr
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>>91815739
For you

http://68.media.tumblr.com/39000c3f0fb85373102e78675c1f7b2b/tumblr_oo59v6w3Gz1uxcpv6o1_1280.png
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>>91815883
Well, the show is built around Star and Marco, you can have them separated for at most 3 episodes before you start to have problems.

And it doesn't look like Jarco is going to survive after Marco leaves Earth.
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>>91815872
>>91815883

There should be buildup to the breakup.

I want Janna/Ponyhead to call out Marco for being a bad boyfriend to Jackie.

I don't want official Starco until the end (or at least mid-season finale) of S3, hell, even only in S4. I want awkward tension and drama because people are going to get hurt and not because they deserve it, something that deserves exploring.

I want people to end up happy though. Jackie deserves to be happy in the end, even if I want Starco. Marco needs to actually own up to his own failings though, for his own sake as well as Jackie's.
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>>91815590
Do people here seriously believe, or hope, that starco will actually become canon in early season 3 (let's say within 3 double episodes)? Genuine question, I'm curious
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>>91815925
Truly, the epitome of all shitposts. I applaud you, good sir.
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>>91815883
I trust her, it's just that there are a lot of good shows/movies/books/etc. that I like that ended up fucking up the romance part. It seems to me that more often then not, the romance part is often the part that ends up getting rushed or not feeling fulfilling, so I'm hoping that Nefcy will pull it off but I'm not 100% sure she will.
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>>91815872
If thet happens Marco should also be depicted in a more negative light than before for it.
But it would be ok in that case, I guess.
>>91815883
The opening makes me paranoic.
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>>91815925
I believe you. Even if one of us anons had the intro here, spoiling it to us months before Disney does it, or such would probably be detrimental.
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>>91815843
Yes but at the same time it sucks to neglect her side of this whole thing. It's teen drama shit sure, but its drama shit that has bearing on the plot.

Plus when everyone else we expected to be in the "squad" is present it feels kind of wrong for Jackie to just fade away into oblivion.
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>>91815590
>Early
no

Marco doesn't have feelings for Star yet, and Star is going to feel awful for being the reason Marco and Jackie break up.
They'll put Star's confession aside when they meet up again because they'll feel so happy and relieved just to be with each other again, and try to just enjoy being friends again.

Marco's not going to look for a relationship with anyone else, and Star's not going to make a move on him because she still knows he doesn't feel the same about her and doesn't want to strain their friendship anymore or hurt him again.
Still, there will be times when they're alone together and feel the tension between them.
Marco is going to have to be the one to reciprocate, maybe as early as the mid-season finale, but it's going to take a lot of mutual suffering to drive them closer together.
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>>91815987
>Marco doesn't have feelings for Star yet

Marco hasn't been shown to have feelings for Star yet. But you typically have feelings before you recognize that you have them. That's how it happened for Star.
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Where Is Jackie?
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>>91816042
Sucking dick in a back alley to soothe her pain after Star's confession.
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Star and Janna having a skirt flipping fight with each other while Marco watches in shock.
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>>91815972
>Plus when everyone else we expected to be in the "squad" is present it feels kind of wrong for Jackie to just fade away into oblivion
I kinda think something's up with that, it honestly feels odd and wrong if they drop her now, just when she started to get more attention and character. Maybe it's a plot twist and the mermaid theory turns out to not have been that delusional after all?
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>>91816042
Right here!
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>>91816066
wow Marco getting his dicked sucked in a back ally right after Star left earth, what an alpha
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>>91816042
Hopefully dead.
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>>91815939
>>91815946
>>91815958
>>91815959
I hear your worries but I'm certain shit is going to be seriously stirred up before and after Jarco breaks up.

And I don't even think Starco will happen right after Jarco breaking up. Like >>91815987 says.
>Marco's not going to look for a relationship with anyone else, and Star's not going to make a move on him because she still knows he doesn't feel the same about her and doesn't want to strain their friendship anymore or hurt him again

Now think about that.
>There's a period of time when neither want to push for a relationship but both are open.
>But Tom is in the picture.

Oh the suffering to come.
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>>91816076
If Jackie is a mermaid and the show abruptly drops her when Marco leaves Earth, she's going to be a villain when she returns.

Like, Marco is laughing about breaking her heart and suddenly the Butterfly kingdom needs an alliance with the mermaids and Jackie shows up to the negotiations.
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>>91816042
Crying at home.
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>>91816094
Exactly!
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>>91816124
>But Tom is in the picture.

But Star can't stand Tom. That's even independent of her crush on Marco.
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>>91815987
>>91816026

Yea, any feelings Marco had for Star disappeared by the Blood Moon Ball.

The show has made a point of showing though that feelings can change, that you often don't know you have feelings for someone til something big happens that makes you realize it, etc.

Marco will have to develop feelings for Star, or start realizing them as things escalate (with the conflict, etc.). But that takes time, and I'm pretty sure that the first half of S3 will end with Marco and Jackie breaking up, with Marco only discovering his feelings for Star by the end of S3 (when Toffee presumably gets another win).
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>>91815480
Marco already knows how to swordfight, unless he also forgot that.
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>>91816042
Crying, because she isn't enough of a bitch to make Star pay for the humiliation she gave her in front of everybody.
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>>91816124
I'm not sure whether I want Toffee to make the relationship drama worse or be exasperated by it. Because the idea of Toffee having no idea how to deal with that drama amuses me.
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>>91816160
>But that takes time, and I'm pretty sure that the first half of S3 will end with Marco and Jackie breaking up

I doubt it takes that long since Jackie isn't in the opening.

Even if Star and Marco don't get together immediately, Starco will almost certainly happen around the middle of the season.
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>>91816201

You know what Toffee would/should do?

After beating Star in the initial fight, he taunts her with "Where's Marco? Oh, you expected him to come for you? I think he'd rather stay and protect Jackie" or something along those lines
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>>91816159
With all this talk about character development and changing feelings and what not, I figure we haven't seen Tom in a bit of a while again.
Giving him time to continue working on his anger issues. He'll keep trying to sway Star to his side. Something's gonna happen there. I can feel it.

Except I totally know he's not going to succeed for one reason or another. It's just in the name of deeper storytelling and giving yet another barrier for Starco to hop before they finally get their relationship.
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>>91816171
Jesus I forgot it was the entire school.

People all over are gonna be looking at Jackie funny now that they all know about stars feelings for her boyfriend.

Being Jackie is suffering
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>>91816026
The Truth or Punishment box confirmed he only has romantic feelings for Jackie, and they hook up a few episodes later. I doubt he's started considering Star romantically in the time since she brought him into a relationship with the girl of his dreams.
Even moreso if you subscribe to the interpretation that he had started seeing her as a romantic option by "Blood Moon Ball," but let those feelings go after she "rejected" him at the end of the episode.

Star's confession throws a whole bunch of conflicted feelings up in the air, but no matter how he feels there's way too much emotional baggage and history involved for him to act on anything anytime soon.
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>>91816160
>Toffee wins again in the season finale
>Regains his true form and destroys Castle Mewni
>Season ends with the group on the run, and Toffee's forces in pursuit
That'd be pretty hype, actually.
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>>91816267
That box was defeated by Star acting like an indecisive retard.

I don't put much stock into it being able to detect a whole lot more than surface level feelings.
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>>91816243
See, that would be great, especially if at that moment Marco comes in.

>Toffee's face when
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Y'know, I would love to find out Toffee's true motivations. I'm going to be disappointed if they go for "Just for the lulz" route
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>>91814611
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>>91816129

>If Jackie is a mermaid and the show abruptly drops her when Marco leaves Earth, she's going to be a villain when she returns.

If she turns out to be a mermaid, that might be the reason she's not in the opening shot. Maybe she changes appearances rather dramatically midway?

I don't know. There's just something about it all. I distinctly got the feeling they were building towards something with her, the increasing sea hints, the interview in the book under "interdimensional dating", the natural haircolor, "me too", all of it. She just got together with Marco and just started to become interesting.

It's too much effort on someone just to drop them totally. If she'd been handled like Oskar, I could buy it, but she hasn't
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>>91816124
>Tom is in the picture.
It would do a lot more for Tom's character development and his relationships with both Star and Marco for him to be a good friend to both of them, instead of being a scumbag and exploiting his unique position to push Star and Marco apart while they're both emotionally vulnerable and he knows him and Star are never going to be a thing again.

>>91816309
That's exactly what it did when it detected Star's feelings for Marco.
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>>91816386
Yeah and they must have big plans for Ferguson and Alfonzo.

Look, we only have one precedent for what happens to someone when they get dropped from the intro. There's no reason to ignore that.
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>>91816378
L-lewd
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>>91814849
>>91814944
>>91815173
>>91815451
>>91814613

I'll look through this and boil it down to some premises, probably blend a few here and there.

thx
>>91814632
>>91814646
>>91814782
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>>91816365
Could be revenge. The Mewmans stole the monster's land from them, and have been assholes to them since then. Perhaps Toffee started off with good intentions, and then overtime became the megalomaniac he is now? Could be something like this:

>Want to avenge monster suffering and take back monster land
>Want revenge on Moon and Mewni for defeating you
>Want power to take revenge
>Want power
>Want more power
>Want all the power

Dark magic is a hell of a drug.
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>>91815883
Everybody got triggered from how AT/RS/TLOK/GF handled romance in their shows
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>>91816276
Toffee is such a huge imminent threat right now that I honestly expect him to "win" and sack Castle Butterfly within the first few episodes, even in the season premiere.
Moon was worried enough to recall Star back to Mewni, it doesn't make sense for her to then let Star go on adventures with her friends, or doing anything beyond training/preparing at the castle.
And that doesn't make for good episode content.
Toffee has to be resolved one way or another sooner than later, and the path of least resistance to restoring something like the "adventuring" status quo is to put Star on the run from the "forces of evil."
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>>91816386
>It's too much effort on someone just to drop them totally.
You know Alf and Ferg were in the opening too
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>>91816422
>Yeah and they must have big plans for Ferguson and Alfonzo
They never got the same kind of treatment, attention, hints and character building Jackie has, you know that.
You're either trying to bait a Jackiefag for reactions or are trying to convince yourself she'll totally get dropped and starco will become canon within the first half of s3, or something
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>>91816526

The real question is will Toffee's plot get resolved in S3, or continue into S4?

I have a feeling that the draining of magic in the universe doesn't have to do with Toffee, and that it and Glossaryck will be the big conflict of S4
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>>91816526
That could also explain the whole Jackie deal, as Marco doesn't want to abandon Star, but that means leaving Earth and thus Jackie, putting him between a rock and a hard spot.
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>>91816422
Not exactly comparable because this is an entirely new intro. There's no huge ensemble shot, only the group of 5 or 6 at the end.
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>>91816557
Season3 is for Toffee
Season 4 is for Eclipsa.
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>>91816595
Season 5 is for Gloss
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>>91816404
>instead of being a scumbag and exploiting his unique position
It would do a lot for Tom's character either way.
Either he's a scumbag by nature and we know FOR SURE that a relationship between him and Star can't work because he burns all of his bridges.
Or he gets some development in the opposite direction and actually becomes a really good character.
Either way, he gets development. It goes without saying that I want the latter to happen. But he has the potential to go either way.

I suddenly really want a shot where Tom knocks some sense into Marco after being such an idiot for not returning Stars feelings towards him.
>"Dude, I gave up on Star because she obviously likes you more. You've won. You'd better not make me regret that decision. Because if now you're the reason Star's having trouble, I'll return the pain tenfold."
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>>91816626

What are the odds the show gets a S5, or a short movie (like the Kim Possible movie)?
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>>91816537
>You know Alf and Ferg were in the opening too
You know I was talking about actual character development effort, in the actual narrative, not the opening. The bunny pirates from Bounce Lounge were in the opening, and I don't think they were important
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>>91816557
I still think Toffee is the endgame villain, one way or another.
Eclipsa is going to show up this season and fuck up absolutely everything for everyone, but I'm expecting her to be on her own side, and probably be friendly with Star more than anyone.

I still can't predict what the fuck Glossaryck's role is in all of this, but I still think he's ultimately doing "what's good for Star."
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>>91816378
Oh yes
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>>91816432
will the story be lewd
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>>91816695
I kind of want Eclipsa to play the role of a mentor to Star, sort of like a darker version of Moon. She's willing to help teach Star, but she also wants Star to follow in her footsteps and become the next Queen of Darkness.
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>>91816642

The spoilered line and the one below it?

I think this will actually happen. Or something close to it. Some variant of Tom knocking sense into Marco
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>>91816365
but "just for the lulzs" would be max suffering for star and really work well
>imagine toffee fighting star in some big battle, not the final but maybe like mid season
>he defeats her and maybe someone close dies, like moon, river, or one of her friends, pretty much anyone that isn't marco
>toffee begins to gloat which is unlike him
>star asks through tears why he'd doing this, what they did you him
>toffee leans in with a grin "because I can, I'm immortal and I was bored"
>star looks shocked and confused, "but why us, why my family and friends"
>"unlucky I guess, I picked a kingdom at random to fuck up and the butterflies were it, nothing more"
>star on the verge of breaking down, "all of this pain and torture for nothing?"
>toffee takes his finger from the ground and dust it off before putting it back and turning back to star his grin even wider, "not for nothing, I for one had a lot of fun"
he opens a portal and goes back to wherever leaving star broken and crying on the battlefield
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>>91816753
Depends.

My autism demands that I work from the two I've already written, where I don't want it to be lewd for quite some time, but I'm open to doing a lewd one-off. I'll need to work on refining my descriptive writing so I'm not rushing or stretching out any sex though.
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>>91816378
oh my
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>>91816642
> Tom knocks some sense into Marco after being such an idiot for not returning Stars feelings towards him.
>being such an idiot for not returning Stars feelings
A bit beside the point but goddamn I hate this trope of people owing attachment and romance to someone just because that someone happens to like them and people acting like they're doing something wrong if they don't return these unasked for emotions

You can't force your feelings. You also aren't supposed to enter into a relationship out of some fucking duty obligation because that other person will be very sad if you won't be with them and how can you do that to them.

If you're not feeling it you're not, end of story. No-one's "an idiot" for not returning feelings because people can't really control who they fancy
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>>91816797
>toffee begins to gloat which is unlike him
Well, he's been doing a lot of gloating lately.
He just doesn't do it until he's already won.
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>>91816915
Look I get what you're saying and I agree. But can we please stop acting as though Marco doesn't feel SOMETHING VERY STRONG towards Star.
He's jumped to her aid several times. Sometimes without her even asking for it.
He'd rather spend time with her than anyone else in the world. Star is RIDICULOUSLY important to Marco.
Not much of a bridge to cross into full blown love. Also
>pic related
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Liggerfags gtfo my not!/sveg/
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>>91817021
I don't think anyone questions that Marco and Star share a deep and loving friendship, but it's a dangerous bridge to cross between that and becoming outright lovers.

Even if they're halfway there, Marco has to be sure of his own feelings first.
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>>91817021
> But can we please stop acting as though Marco doesn't feel SOMETHING VERY STRONG towards Star.
Literally what the fuck are you going on about there m8 with your emotional caps and shit
Did you think I was specifically talking about Marco? Because I wasn't, it was a fucking general example illustrating the principle, I thought it was obvious.
Besides, if we are talking about Marco, completely regardless of what someone seems to feel from the outside to the co-character, scenarios where people threaten someone unless they get together with a certain person, because others surely know what's best for you and how you feel and they're "knocking some sense into you" is still hack writing. People's emotions are complex and sometimes some people need time, aren't ready. It's not up to other people to decide - talk about it with the other person, be blunt, try to make them face their feelings, sure, but order them to do x or else, nuh-uh. regardless of what people might "truly" be feeling that sort of arm-twisting is shit and I hate that shit getting romanticized
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>>91816526
I might be retarded, but is Star leaning over Marco? or is she sitting on his lap? I'm not sure how to look at the image
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Do we just ride this to page 10 before making a new thread?>
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When do you think will they premier S3?
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>>91817321
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>>91816262
That's the thing, it's summer break. She doesn't have to see any of those people for 3 months.
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>>91817432
I think she's sitting next to him and leaning into him, with him wrapping a blanket around them both.
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>>91816267
Much like how the box confirmed that Jackie had no feelings for Marco prior to his confession. At which point Jackie started looking at Marco in a completely different way.
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>>91817385
>"knocking some sense into you" is still hack writing
Again, I agree with that completely. It just seems like something Tom might do that's why I even brought up the thought.
It's not going to be that exact one thing that helps Marco make a decision or even be the ""final straw"". If anything, it should have a negative effect on Marco.
It's going to be a whole shit ton of things that will/might make Marco start seeing Star in a love light. Sorry for the confusion.
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>>91817466
don't you dare talk about my gf like that
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>>91816526
Which means it was really a stupid move on Moon's part to bring Star back to Mewni at all. She was clearly safer on Earth. Moon could've set up one of those crystals like they had at St. Olga's to lock Toffee out of traveling to Earth. But setting up a similar crystal at Butterfly Castle would do nothing since Toffee is already ON Mewni and thus can just smash through the front door.
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>>91817590
Crystal has limited radius m8e, she could lock down the house but that wouldn't stop Toffee from warping in down the street
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>>91817491
So who does she have then?
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>>91817456
That is preferable, yes.
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>>91817590
the crystal only blocks portals from being created in the dimension, not to the dimension. Star was able to create a portal to St. Olga's to rescue ponyhead.
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Can they please just fuck already?
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>>91818269
Right oh baus.
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>>91818660
You need an update, my friend.
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>>91818660
>>91818762
I wish we had more sex hair Star
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