"Upcoming Issue Of Trinity Changed By DC Comics Due To “Political

>>91807228
>and it infuriated me

Nobody cares

Fuck it, we do not need more political stories that only exist to either criticize or praise whatever the American govt is doing atm.

>>91807228
>Batman, Superman and Wonder Woman protecting a bigoted hate speaker
Ugh.

>>91807228
Quit being such a fag

>>91807308

This type of story has a place at DC. It could make an interesting story if it was Green Arrow having to protect him but the whole Trinity? That's just overkill and comes across like a bad PSA

>>91807330
>bigoted hate speaker
Try harder.

>>91807359
>Green Arrow
>protecting a Milo
Nah.

Good.
There are very few comic book writers who could handle a story like this even if we weren't currently living through a shit political climate. Manapul's a great artist, but he's a mediocre writer.

Also: free speech means you can criticise the government without fear of being imprisoned for it. It does not mean you can spout out whatever hateful crap you like without repercussion. You say something bigoted and get punched in the face for it, then you fucking deserved it. Free speech is not a shield to protect you from people being offended by your bigoted shittery.

>>91807401

If he saw a bunch of antifa about to kill the guy he would protect him. That's what could make it interesting

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>>91807466
This is a world class idea.

It would be even better if GA was protecting him simply because he supports free speech, even if he disagrees with the speaker.

>>91807462

Who decides what's bigotry and what isn't?

>>91807462
I agree that spewing bigoted shit definitely doesn't mean you're immune from criticism, but assaulting someone is also illegal.

If you want to appear you have the higher ground, punching someone in the face doesn't really help. I'm a liberal, but I don't feel comfortable with encouraging people to punch others for what they say.

>>91807482
Children shouldn't be on the internet.

>>91807480
>GA throws a net arrow
>the Milo clone ends up hanging on by the net, away from the protestors
>"No need to thank me, Milo! I do this for free speech!"

>>91807511

Not much of an answer

>>91807498

Not him, but if you go to a group of black people and call them Niggers, you can't call free speech and expect them not take any action against you at all. That's more or less what he means.

In this context, sure DC is able to say whatever they want in their comics, but ofc free speech won't protect them from any negative reception from readers.

>>91807514
>GA throws a net arrow
>Throws

>>91807548
The net arrow would get caught up in the bow string, silly.

>>91807548
It is not the bow, anon. It's the arrow.

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>>91807583

I thought his trick arrows had capsules that exploded and released what ever shit was inside?

If he's just going to throw stuff he may as well be Green Javelin

>>91807618
>If he's just going to throw stuff he may as well be Green Javelin
I need a drawfag!

>>91807462
The law should and does protect you from getting brained with a bike lock.
"Fighting words" are a thing of the past. Freedom of speech however is not.

>keep politics out of muh comics
>unless it fits my agenda

>>91807462
Yeah and punching people is totes legal am I right? Thankfully you belong to a dying kind. Changes are coming, this world has been spiralling into madness long enough.

>>91807547
Yeah well you have to be a real retard to go to a group of black people and call them niggers. If he gets assaulted the law protects him though, but you'd have to be a complete moron with no self preservation instinct to do it.

I was talking more about the "guy gives an interview, gets randomly assaulted by a masked guy" a la Richard Spencer. Is Spencer a piece of shit? Sure, but suddenly punching him in the face when he doesn't attack someone directly in that moment (the "go to a bunch of black guys and call them niggers" situation) is pretty stupid. Encouraging people to punch others for what they say is not something you should do, mostly because it's a slippery slope. Alright, Richard Spencer is a white supremacist and open about it. However, the left is very liberal with the word "nazi" lately, so much that the word has lost its meaning. Did you vote for Trump? You're a nazi. Do you like the latest Captain America comic? You're a nazi. This shit is getting out of hand and soon enough you're getting punched in the face for the most inconsequential shit. I really, really don't like how authoritarian the left has become in the last couple of years and it frustrates me because socially and on most economical issues I'm on that side.

>>91807662
OP here, and I can't speak for everyone, but I don't mind politics in comics, as long as it's not overbearing or one-sided.

>>91807618
I mean that the Arrowfamily know how to shoot an arrow without a bow.

>>91807662
Tale as old as time.

>>91807680

Recently, they are now saying drinking milk and liking a certain type of face cream makes you a Nazi.

>>91807667
god you people are no different from edgy would-be school shooters

>>91807738
>liking a certain type of face cream
I always said you Nazis are so gay.

>>91807760
Those kids are good Americans! They have the right to bear and use arms, you commie!

>>91807228
freedom of speech IS a liberal value. some people on both the left and right seem to forget that

>>91807462
>It does not mean you can spout out whatever hateful crap you like
YES IT DOES
>without repercussion
no, those repercussions are handled socially, not through the courts. I can go up to a person and call him a nigger, you can't do anything within the law about it. But he can go and get me banned from certain social groups and spread the idea that I am a racist fuckwad.

>>91807738
Yeah, like I said the word lost all its meaning. I don't know what needs to be done, but these Tea Party-tier "liberals" that infected the left are really doing no good and are quite dangerous to the movement in my opinion.

I'm pretty secure in my political opinions so these morons aren't making me switch sides and do a complete 180 on my beliefs. However there are a lot of left leaning or centrist people that vote right wing people now because of the overly sensitive authoritarian liberals that suck the joy out of everything and screech like retards every time someone does something "problematic" (most of the time it's dumb shit like "microagressions" or genuine mistakes not done out of malice). They don't even realize how much harm they're doing to the left and driving people away by being like this.

>>91807796
>I can go up to a person and call him a nigger
OK, go on and do it. Let's see what happens.

>>91807774
That's because plenty of people on the left and right are not liberals.

>>91807830
>Cletus learns to copypasta

>>91807662
Fucking Conservatives man.

>>91807767
>believing in law and order makes you an edgy school shooter

Silencing those who would disagree with you by using extreme force strikes me as more edgy. Perhaps even fascist.

>>91807907
>fascist
Don't you have some city to Occupy, kid?

>>91807902
Nice rebuttal, "anon".
He's right. Radical liberals are polarizing some people to the right. People are getting fed up with all this violence and unbridled hatred. The sheer hypocrisy being displayed by so-called "anti-fascists" is on full display.

Actually OP that article is old and was later determined to be wrong or false conclusion. They didn't cancel it just moved the story to a different issue. The solicit for that issue was announced on the wrong and when they corrected it the article assumed they cancelled the issue. Later when the solicit time of announcement for the correct issue came the solicit was back.

>>91807954
Psh, nothin personel, but I'd rather spend my time attacking anybody who looks like they're to the right of Kernal Sanders.

>>91807861

He just explained what would happen, you moron. And he's right. You have the right to shun him and ban him from social groups, NOT answer with physical force. That kind of thinking lead to something like the May 13th incident in Malaysia, where every race was trying to kill each other.

>>91807228
I hav a strong feeling that DC wouldn't have held the same standard if the comic was shilling social justice

>>91807974
The story was legitimately canceled. They also canceled an "aliens are refugees too, open the borders" arc in Hitch's Justice League.

>>91807462
>You say something bigoted and get punched in the face for it, then you fucking deserved it. Free speech is not a shield to protect you from people being offended by your bigoted shittery.

But that doesn't mean who punched you had the right to punch you and has to be prosecuted for assault. The more apt comparison is being a little shit in a private space and complain about muh free speach as you are being escorted out.

>>91807462
>We don't like what you're saying, so we're going to riot in the street, start fires, and randomly assault people on the streets.

>>91807462
And getting offended does not give you free reign to assault someone.

>>91807466
>>91807480

It would be more in-character if it was Ollie stood there for half the comic bitching to Hal Jordan about how he doesn't want to and why he doesn't like the guy, and then Hal convinced him to do it anyway.

>>91807462
Yes it is.
If it wasn't, then there would be no lgbt because the Christians would have been able to beat them into the closet because of the bigoted stuff the lbgt community says about Christians.
All speech is bigoted hate speech to someone. That's why we have free speech, and it is speech without consequences.

>>91807511
>I don't have an answer that doesn't btfo myself so insult!

Lel try harder tumblr.

>>91807462

Go attack somebody with a bike lock without the mask this time and see how that works out you absolute dumbass.

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>>91807228
>DC claims they canceled the story for "political reasons," but really, they were just scared of getting the SJW's riled up by making a story about the trinity protecting free speech.
Good. Seeing how riled up Marvelfags are with SE having such a political slant, I'm fine with them trashing the original story in favor of something else. We also have no clue whether or not it even came together well enough as a story to print, since Manapul isn't exactly a top tier writer.

I also seriously doubt it was entirely due to political fatigue since DC's shown they're not afraid of it. Green Arrow's entire Rebirth run has political connotations. He's fighting big business, saving the little guy and just wrapped up a run where he's trying to stop a pipeline being built through Native American land. And that's entirely fine for Ollie.

>>91809078
>Green Arrow's entire Rebirth run
Try every GA run ever.

>>91809078
They canceled Hitch's pro-open borders story so it does seem to be a "keep this stuff where it belongs" policy.

>>91807462
You don't know how this works do you?

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>>91809098
>Try every GA run ever.
I was focusing more on recent issues due to the current political climate. This belief that DC of all people would shy away from a political statement is absurd.

>>91809113
>They canceled Hitch's pro-open borders story so it does seem to be a "keep this stuff where it belongs" policy.
Eh, Hitch is the same boat as Manapul in not being the best storyteller. His Justice League is by and large considered to be the weakest of the Rebirth books. I don't even want to think of what it would look like if he tried to make a statement but it came out really awkwardly. And again, it's not like DC is afraid of posting politically oriented material in their biggest titles. Hell, they put out a Black Lives Matter and police brutality issue of Batman not too long ago that was roundly praised.

>>91809248
Not to mention The Fintstone is a very political book. Hell, the entire book is political satire (same with Prez 2 years ago).

>>91809098
I think the point he was making is that if you read Green Arrow you expect political issues being brought up, it's the point of his character

>>91807462
Uuuh punching is assault.

Punching people over mean words is... Also assault.

>>91807547
Still illegal.

That's like saying women who go to poor neighborhoods at night aren't legally protected from Rape.
If the rapists are found they will be prosecuted. Because it's a crime, ya get that?

Since when has this place been populated with mongs like you?

>>91809248
Batman deals with crooked cops all the time, so that's not out of the ordinary.

>>91807861
If he punches you, he loses the moral high ground and starts acting with the morality of a teenager.

You do understand adults aren't suppised to attack others over anything right?

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>>91809686
Because this world ran out of real men long ago.

>>91807462
Copypasta?

>>91807228
Actually no, it was just another Anti-Trump piece from Manapul. Read the summary, it was utter shit and pandered shamelesly to the left.

I love Mapanul but god he can be a cuck sometimes.

DC did the right thing by removing that shit.

>>91807462
>Your opinion offends me, I declare it bigoted, we must cancel free speech or at least redefine it to suit my needs

You have a really terrible understanding of whats the meaning behind free speech. And yes, it includes "bigoted shjittery" candy ass

>>91809859
An egotistical pussy who got laughed out of a 'Nam USO show and went on to kill himself and hundreds of others with cancer via fallout dust?

yeah, what a hunk of a man.

>>91809686
not that anon, but you don't have any moral high ground when you just walk up to someone and just start shouting racist epithets in his face.

>>91808562
>Implying Christians didn't constanly attack homos

Fuck off underage. Go read up on Free Speech before you spout this garbage.

>>91807228
When is the last time mainline DC had a political issue?
The GA Arsenal arc on the Indian Reservation?

>>91807680
>>I was talking more about the "guy gives an interview, gets randomly assaulted by a masked guy"

There was also that author who went to speak at a college, and a whole group of students hounded him and a professor, who ended up getting injured in the process. Middlebury or whatever.

>>91807228

meh, DC doesn't want politics period. You can find winsome liberalism in Young Animals and shit titles like batgirl and Superwoman. The big guns, Batman Wonder Woman and Superman, are a political as long as Geoff Johns has a say.

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>>91807480
>It would be even better if GA was protecting him simply because he supports free speech, even if he disagrees with the speaker.

But that's white supremacy!

>>91807462
The soul of a Republic like America is built upon the free and open exchange of ideas. Further, when violence is used to coerce a speaker, that is the essence of unlawfulness.

>>91807462
No, thats battery. And if you try that with me faggot, I'll punch back.

>>91811021
It kinda is. If you just let someone spout kill all non whites and dont do anything because "free speech" ypu are condoning it

>>91807462
>You say something bigoted and get punched in the face for it, then you fucking deserved it.

This is bait.

If it isn't I hope you kill yourself in front of your family one day.

>>91811083

No, you're not. Free speech means everyone gets to speak, even assholes.

>>91811083
>If you just let someone spout kill all non whites

You do know there are degrees to this sort of thing, and that not every non-left opinion on race is "KILL ALL NON-WHITES RACE WAR NOW", right?

>>91811153
You could speak louder inster of doing nothing because that man has a right to say gas all non whites. If you dont do anything you support their ideas

>>91811153
>Free speech means everyone gets to speak, even assholes.
'Free Speech does not entitle you to shout, "FIRE!" in a crowded theater.'

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>>91807462
>people replied to this

YOURE ALL SO STUPID HOLY SHIT

FUCKING KILL YOURSELVES PLEASE

>>91811191
Not according to /pol/ and /co/

>>91811083

Not true. You protect him from harm because of principles, but you'll never really agree with him. And that's how it should be. Like the jewish lawyers who defended nazis in court because if they didn't, they'd be throwing away their own freedom as well.

>>91811195

Yes. Speak louder, NOT punch his mouth for saying things you don't agree with. And if they listen to him more than you, half the fault is theirs but the other fault lies in yourself. If you don't pratice self reflection, you will never win.

>>91811199
Actually check again, yes it does.

>>91811195
COULD but not everyone has to speak out about everything. This world is already filled with a bunch of people shouting their opinions and no one listening cause no one is actually speaking to each other, they are just shouting to make themselves feel good about shouting

>Liberals don't beleive in property rights
>Liberals don't beleive in gun rights
>Liberals don't beleive in the first amendment
At this point, woild save a lot of time by moving to North Korea.

>>91809248
They probably were shit and the Editors saw that and they put a stop to it

>>91811153
Nope it just entitles you to speak your mind without fear ir repercussion from rhe Government.

It doesn't protect you from saying it in a private owned area where the owners don't want to hear you and it doesn't protect you when you're inciting others to attack someone either.

>>91812308
Yeah people have the right to association but in all of these incidents the people have rented the area to hold events and speak their piece. However people who disagree come in and break shit and try to shut their events down. You can't say "I find their message disagreeable so I have the right to attack" there are laws for assault

>>91807547
>niggers are greenlit for murder with a word
>these people belong in modern society
Pick one

>>91810756
I think you mean Muslims.

>>91807662
Is free speech political? Holy fuck, are your basic rights as a man now a sore spot that can't be discussed?
It's not Drumpf's wall or Killary's emails, it's a protected right

>>91807359
Yeah it would have been a really interesting Green Arrow story, he'd be so fucking conflicted the whole time.

It sounds pretty hamfisted with the trinity though.

>>91807228
Can't they just go punch Mongul in the face instead of getting tangled in this bullshit?

>>91809686
nah you'd deserve it... I'd kek

>>91807966
I moved away from the left and toward center because of that. The right will sit down and explain their beliefs to you but the left just shouts them in your face and bear maces you if you don't immediately swear fealty

>>91814458

It's political in the sense that you're talking about politics.

Would the people clamoring for this story want it if it was a liberal shitstirrer getting attacked by alt-right assholes and having to be protected by a conservative-leaning superhero (like Hal Jordan)?

>>91814482
I take it back, it would be a good superman story too, especially if the bigot was anti-illegal alien or something.

It seems out of character for me for Batman or Wonder Woman to get caught up in this. I see them both not necessarily condoning the protestors but also not feeling like it's their responsibility to get involved. It doesn't really feel like their kind of fight.

>Supporting free speech is too controversial
Maybe it is political fatigue. I mean DC rebirth was basically a step away from politics because it really upset readers. Still I think protecting Freedom of speech should be a pretty 1 sided issue.

No.
Because that's more shit-slinging on the right.
It's easy.
Take the left to task for a change.
Better yet, leave politics out of comics entirely. Tell stories that are timeless and use universal values [of western civilization].
And just because some woke college communists pick one of their basic rights to grow out of, doesn't make it political. Free speech is fair game because there's objectively one correct answer

>>91814660

It's not necessarily that free speech is controversial so much as people want escapist fantasies, not anything that reminds them of the current politics.

It's kinda why Superman doesn't just go around busting up the mafia/KKK/Al Qaeda/ISIS.

I always thought it would be cool to have Wally guarding central city during a protest. Every time a bad egg protester would try throwing a brick it would instantly be caught and the person throwing it sent to the police.

>>91814725
I was arguing on behalf of free speech in this thread and I think you made the better point.
It's abhorrent that this has to be controversial, but for the sake of the media, it'd be better to avoid some hamfisted """"commentary""""

>>91812308
>>91811083
Most college compasses are funded by the government and therefore people should be allowed to say what they want. If you disagree you are a faggot.

>>91814751
>and the person throwing it sent to the police.

Wouldn't help much...

>>91807462
>Say something bigoted
Who is to decide what is bigoted
>Punched in the face
You are literally saying it's ok to break the law if someone hurts your feelings.

>>91814831
this is clear bait. But the universities have much more free speech protections than anywhere else. For example, tenure is specifically designed to protect the professor's job if he chooses to do work in controversial fields. It's there to protect him so he can address topics that others don't want mentioned. universities are places where offensive debates should be allowed, if they are conducted academically.

>it's a "white trash gets triggered" thread

>>91811289
>>91811709
All i am saying doing nothing because you cant stop him because free speech is the same as condoning it. Speak up. Protest. Counter and block their voice with yours

>>91815201
>Protest
Why can't people try to have civil discussion? I can see if the government isn't going to do something you like, but why protest a random person?

>>91815279
>boo hoo why don't you love Drumpf?

>>91814725

>not knowing about The Clan of the Fiery Cross

>>91815187
Any decent human being would be triggered by the use of political violence.

>>91815360
>Any decent human being
Is that really how you want to make your appeal here on an anonymous imageboard?

>>91815388
Not appealing to anybody. Most people here seem to be in agreement that punching someone for expressing their right to speech is wrong.

>>91815447
>for expressing their right to speech is wrong.
That's a very intellectually dishonest way of presenting Richard Spencer but I'm sure you already know this.

>>91815201
no, if you don't know enough about the topic you should shut the fuck up and learn. Too many idiots are shouting about shit they know nothing about. I'm refering to both the left and right

>>91807462
>It does not mean you can spout out whatever hateful crap you like without repercussion.
I agree wholeheartedly.
Thing is, just because you fly the flag of progressiveness doesn't mean you aren't spewing hateful crap. There's equal and opposite reactions to all forces.

>>91807482
Uooer middle class white women.

>>91815493
No, it's not. That's what he did.

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>>91815493
It is not. Everyone has a right to express their views and opinions, no matter how ugly it is. To suppress ones right to speech is inhumane.

>>91815329
Was that the Klan expy that Superman defeated in a radio show that destroyed the KKK's youth enlistment?

>>91815582
>suppress
Not the same guy but this depends, people around here like to categorize getting banned from twitter or x 'forum' for being an asshole as an infringement of their free speech.

It's really made me take a lot of what anons say here with a massive grain of salt.

>>91811199

It does, actually. Even the SCOTUS judge who wrote that bullshit eventually thought worse of his decision.

https://www.popehat.com/2015/05/19/how-to-spot-and-critique-censorship-tropes-in-the-medias-coverage-of-free-speech-controversies/ - See #2 on this list.

>tfw liberal
>tfw genuinely disturbed by all the calls for censorship and limitation of free speech from liberals
You absolute morons. Do you even realize that if you limit free speech for one particular idea/group/whatever, it might be used against you in the future? Limiting freedom of speech hurts ALL people, not just those who have different opinions from you. Who's to say that at some point in the future your particular political opinion/belief won't be deemed inappropriate or illegal?

>>91815656
It's pretty obvious that the issue would be in regards to the riots.

>>91815582
That shit's all well and good on paper, but what about the people who promote ideas and philosophies that are all about denying others a voice at all? Because that's what Nazis and the fucking KKK and every other fucking supremacist group does. How do you reconcile giving freedom to all when it means freedom for one group to fuck with others consequence-free?

You can't tolerate the intolerant and expect your tolerant society to last.

>Marvel releases SJW pandering comics
"What the fuck they have to stop making comics political!"
>DC decides not to release a political comic
"What the fuck this is censorship!"

>>91815716
>promote ideas
depends how this promoting happens
If it's done with words, it's okay. Shitty, but okay.

>You can't tolerate the intolerant and expect your tolerant society to last.
Yeah, you can. Intolerant people try to make a point. A stupid point. It's not necessary that it'll convince people.

>>91807238
>protecting free speech
>a political message that's not wholly liberal

What the fuck kind of world are we living in right now?

>>91815716
>That shit's all well and good on paper, but what about the people who promote ideas and philosophies that are all about denying others a voice at all?

You let them voice their opinion.

>Because that's what Nazis and the fucking KKK and every other fucking supremacist group does.

Cool, don't really give a shit. If anything that's what Anti-fa is currently trying to do.

>How do you reconcile giving freedom to all when it means freedom for one group to fuck with others consequence-free?

By debating them and giving them the chance to speak so that you can systematically dismantle their argument.

>You can't tolerate the intolerant and expect your tolerant society to last.

Worked for us so far.

>>91815704
>the issue would be in regards to the riots.
Even taking a cursory glance at /pol/ reveals that shit is just excuse for two sides to have a fight and the free speech championing is just virtue signaling though.

For fuck's sake they're literally discussing ways to make weapons along with ways to "look better" in media clips.

>>91815716
>You can't tolerate the intolerant and expect your tolerant society to last.
Going on two+ centuries anon. And only one civil war. You have to let the assholes talk so you know who the assholes are.

>>91815799
And by, "I don't really give a shit" I mean it has nothing to do with what we're talking about.

>>91815716
>How do you reconcile giving freedom to all when it means freedom for one group to fuck with others consequence-free?
Freedom for them to spout their shitty opinions doesn't mean freedom for them to actually attack and harm those said groups.

>extremist leftists writing on twitter "haha fuck all white men they're inferior garbage" = okay, even if it's shitty
>extremist right wingers writing on their twitter "haha fuck all jews they're inferior garbage" = okay, even if it's shitty
>extremist leftists going around punching white men = not okay, illegal
>extremist right wingers going around punching minorities = not okay, illegal

That's the difference.

>>91815716

>what about the people who promote ideas and philosophies that are all about denying others a voice at all?

You let them speak. Their rhetoric and ideas may be rooted in the revocation of other people's rights, but that is no excuse for revoking their own rights. Unless they are inciting violence or imminent lawless action, they have every right to say "that person should not have a voice"—no matter how offensive you find that idea.

>>91815716
you just educate people so the people who hear that shit laugh it off. It's the same way you fight ISIS, educate the masses so they can find jobs and are smart enough to know the BS that is ISIS

Personally I think a story like that should be told considering how shit is getting out of hand. People are attacking each other because they didn't vote for the right person and condemning freedom of speech.

>>91815812
>Group online who usually enjoys when shit happens for their "Happening" threads are happy when shit happens.

Shocker. There's videos online before the fighting broke out if you'd like to take a look. The side Anti-fa was going apeshit against was having a good time debating, there was even a moment where they said that the racists in their group don't represent the majority of them who are legitimately concerned with violations against freedom of speech.

Then Anti-fa showed up and fucked the whole thing up because they're a bunch of children throwing hissy fits.

>>91807462
Wow, this really is /co/mblr.

>>91815716
>have free market of ideas
>some groups put forth shit ideas
>instead demostrating why these ideas are bad, try and stop group from saying them in the first place
>ideas aren't actually proven wrong, stand as the biggesr alternative to the status quo, which people are sick of
>people elect a meme to the Presidencey and sympathize with white ethno-nationalists
This is the future you choose.

>>91807228
I actually don't mind them changing it. Political fatigue has set im for me. I thought a silver lining to the Trump presidencey is a media critical of the President for once after 8 years of excusing Obama's fuck ups. But after Trump's Syria bombing, they decide to gargle his balls the same. I just wanna read wacky super hero stories god dammit.

>>91815911
2/10
You came in late and weren't subtle at all.
Get good faggot.

>>91807482
Google and Mark Zuckerberg have taken the task of dictating what is bigoted and what is accepted speech. If you disagree with their PC views if the moment, you are a bigot.

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Why are these threads allowed? Does this not count as off-topic?

Sage troid you're a fucking faggot loser

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>>91816206
>using Google
>using Facebook

>>91815329
>>91815609

I meant to say "not anymore".

If Superman were to go after nigh-universally hated groups like ISIS, North Korea, the drug gangs in Latin America (or Assad, or Putin...) - or their equivalent - the sales would likely plummet, even if the stories were told well.

>>91815770
It fucking DOES convince people or the goddamn Third Reich never would've fucking happened. Hell, Infowars would just be an obvious joke to everyone instead of KEEPERS OF DA SEKRIT TROOF like so many proto-fascists crave. You think some people are just born Nazis?

>>91815799
>By debating them and giving them the chance to speak so that you can systematically dismantle their argument.
because that worked so well for the Weimar Republic. And before you bring it up, the Scopes monkey trial was a publicity stunt and a foregone conclusion.

Ten years ago I'd have been with you, but debate is a naive choice against people who only see intelligence in others as an insult to themselves and lack even the self-awareness to admit to being wrong.

>>91816369
>You think some people are just born Nazis?
Whites do.

>>91816206
Private spaces have always had the right to choose what kinds of speech they will or will not provide a platform for.

>>91816210
>Does this not count as off-topic.

Trinity is a comic book. Comic books are on topic.

>>91816417
We're not talking about trinity, we're talking about punching people for saying mean words.

>>91807238
I do

>>91816369
The Weimar Republic fell to the Nazis because it was unfit for purpose. The Weimar Republic's solutions were the status quo when the people wanted change. The National Socialists promised that change. And that's besides the fact that Hitker was arrested for his views, and in prison he wrote Mein Kampf. He was emboldened after his release. The Republic fell because it couldn't convince the people to follow it, the bullying by the Nazis happened after they were legitimately elected into power.

>>91816369
People are made nazis when no one can convince them that being a nazi is bad.

>>91816206
you make a program then you can decide what is accepted speech. 4chan is much worse than those two. When Charlie Hebdo was happening it was banned, gamergate was banned, etc. This site has a higher rate of censorship that most website

>>91816369
>because that worked so well for the Weimar Republic

And it worked so well for literally /every/ other government that tried to silence free speech too I'm assuming is what you're trying to imply. Let's not mention that he grouped them all together by scape goating all their problems on a race of people who just happened to hold the most successful jobs.

>but debate is a naive choice against people who only see intelligence in others as an insult to themselves

I don't give a damn what you believe is naive or not. If they really see intelligence in others as an insult to themselves, then it should be fairly easy to use that against them in a debate. If you were to suppress their speech? No one would see the holes in their argument and they would be forced to sympathize with them since in that case the ones silencing them would be the aggressors.

>lack even the self-awareness to admit to being wrong.

Much like yourself and Anti-fa?

>>91807228
DC probably looked around, saw how Marvel's sales are in the toilet ever since they decided that their new top writer should be a "MUH FREE SPEECH, please don't hurt Nazis they are delicate" shithead, and realized that pandering to /pol/ is a proven way to lose money.

Prudent business decision, OP. Try not to be too offended by it.

>>91815716

> people who promote ideas that are all about denying others a voice at all?

You mean liberals? Because I gotta be honest, Not one conservative or centrist (you probably have seem them loosely referred to as "nazis") since this shit starting popping off has attempted to silence the speech of any pro-choice, anti-gun, lgbt, gender bending,feminist, progressive, etc.

If you have some shitty thinking that gets constantly thwarted to a point where you have to shut up or remove yourself from the circle, that doesn't mean you were "silenced". You just couldn't defend your argument.

>>91816907
Go back to bed, Cletus. You're drunk again with copypastas

>>91816967
wtf? I love Anti-Fa now!

Amazing retort

>>91816907
>victim complex
Total trumpr.

>>91817023
Thanks, Cletus. But then again it's easy to trigger you.

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>hey you know how you like these characters and enjoy seeing them beat up bad guys
>well fuck you it's time for me to use them as a mouthpiece for my political views

the only book that did this well off the top of my head was The Dark Knight Returns and that's because it was almost entirely satire and not aimed at one particular group

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>>91817035
>Triggered.

Nah, fampai. I don't let stupid people trigger me. Life's too short.

>>91816907
>no liberal in the history of the universe has ever been silenced

>oh except some of them have, but it's okay because they deserved it for not agreeing with us

Well, that resolves that!

>>91816907
>Not one conservative
stopped reading there.

>>91816907

Ha ha, that's cute. Claim no one on the other side has been silenced, because when you guys do it's called being "thwarted." Using a different name changes everything!

Did you honestly think people wouldn't see through that.

>>91817114
>he says after so many angry posts
Too late, kid.

>>91816608

Hitler was arrested because he attempted a coup: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beer_Hall_Putsch

He got off lightly because the lay judges were pro-Nazi from the start.

>>91817299
>Angry.

>Posted at you once.

>Post was me meming about how you were bad at arguments.

Kek. okay.

>>91814591
Sure.

Even better, both the liberal and conservative shit shit stirrer have to be protected TOGETHER and the hero gets depressed by how alike the demagogues are.

>>91815716
There was a time when gays were considered child molesters and insane people by the majority of the country. They had to fight for a voice. Or, hell, any sort of leftist during the McCarthy era.

Think about how easily your right to speak could be taken if the political winds shift and YOUR opinion is suddenly problematic.

>>91815716
>but what about the people who promote ideas and philosophies that are all about denying others a voice at all

you mean like antifa, blm and progressives in general?

>>91817619

At least you aren't a hypocrite, anon!

And yes, that would be something I'd like to read, as well.

>>91817669
This what most liberal today don't realize. Free speech protects both sides and shouldn't even be a partisan issue.

It's easy to say "fuck free speech" when it comes to your opposition. However, when the tides turn and you're getting attacked for expressing an opinion, that shit's not so hot anymore. Absolutely everybody should fight to protect free speech.

>>91807228
I trust D.C. Editorial to have made the right call here.

I don't really want to read overtly political hamfisted messages in a Trinity book. Keep it where it belongs, like in a Green Arrow book.

Also, I love Manapul's art work. And I do appreciate him trying to tell a story of protecting free speech. However, editorial is right, there is no real reason for this to be in there except for a cheap political message. I don't like it when Marxist do it, so I don't like it when Liberals do it either.

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>>91817757
If someone is arguing against freespeech they are arguing against primary principles of what Liberalism stands for. That means they are no liberals at all, they are just Marxist.

People just don't realize that Marxist's have been saying this shit for ages.

>>91817877
Yeah, what a fucking shock that the Marxists are pulling their bullshit dime store treachery now that the left is finally trying to get off its ass.

They're like fucking CLOCKWORK.

>>91817362
>Posted at you once.
IP count says otherwise.

ITT scared conservatards

>>91818148
There's 73 different people in this thread.

>>91807480
>People legit think GA would just show up and defend this dude
>People don't think GA would protect him by taking him to a "safe location" that happens to be a rooftop or some shit and telling him his ideas are dumb and he should feel bad about himself
>people think the JLA would give a shit about Milo

god damnit I hate you people

>>91817619
and have Hal and Ollie both guarding them, and they get dragged into the argument, escalating it further and almost getting their charges killed cause they stopped paying attention.

...I think that may have happened in the GL + GA run...

Yeah, they have to keep the story vacant for when they inevitably bring Rorschach into the main continuity.

>>91807330
This

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>>91807228

>Marvel outright encourages SJW bullshit in their comics and stuffs their comics full of political diarrhea.

>DC says enough is enough and decides to pull out political bullshit regardless of whether it's liberal or not.

Based DC showing why they're the best out of the big 2.

>>91807796
Good understanding of freedom of speech. You're kino.

>>91815298
What? Where did you get this from kid?

>>91807547
"The soft bigotry of low expectations."

"Black people are too simple to night behave like animals when then they hear something that offends them" is what you're saying. Do you even hear yourself speak anymore?

>>91815153
>universities are places where offensive debates should be allowed, if they are conducted academically.

Yea, about that...

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>>91807359
I want to see a Green Arrow comic where he's greeted by his "biggest fans" who want him to ditch his friendship with Hal (cause he's right wing), abandon his arrows ("cultural appropriation"), and leave Black Canary (she's "not a good female role model" and because both of them are automatically racist since they're a white couple)

>>91807462
and you don't get to fucking punch people for words. you go to jail, and the "hate speech" guy goes free. use your words and ideas you fucking troglodyte.

>>91809859
“I won't be wronged. I won't be insulted. I won't be laid a-hand on. I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.” the shootist

>>91815716
you don't give them relevance by suppressing them, then you tear them apart with logic, reason and ethics. you pull out the captain america/ superman stuff on them and confront the ideas not hide like a coward.

>>91816327
who the hell wouldn't read the hell out of well written superman fights isis story?