Now that the dust has settled, who was in the wrong here?

>>91798842
Me

>"GARNET, YOU'RE INFERIOR BECAUSE YOU'RE A NIGGER"

Jesus christ, Rebecca, why did you think this was ok?

Why is Garnet such a retard and hothead now? They literally made here into "Black tall Ruby"

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>>91798982
because after the revolution, the crew felt they no longer needed to "hide" garnet's personality.

Everything up to Prison Break wasn't the real garnet. That's why she feels so different now.

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GET READY

>>91798842
You for watching Steven Universe

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Remember that time Garnet grabbed Peridot's entire waist in her hands and smashed her to death?

>>91799022
That makes no sense, what personality would she have to hide?

>>91799081
Remember that they were going to trap her in a bubble forever?

>>91799106
they were hiding the fact that she's a fusion.

Peridot "I'm too much of a sperg to recognize the people next to me have an entire different philosophy and that I have no physical might to back up my propaganda."

>>91798842
you for watching this garbage show

>>91799207
What does that have to do with her personality?

>>91798842
>>91799218
The scene was stupid. Peridot was still adjusting to life on Earth, and then Garnet lashes out at her physically.

Did they really expect her to change her views that fast?

>>91799945
The gems are autistic so it's reasonable that they are unable to control their emotions and lash out at people

>>91799945
Apparently yes, they did.

>>91800241
So they're not just maladjusted to dealing with humans, it's an entire race of emotionally damaged people?

>>91799945
What pisses me off is how self-righteous Pearl and Garnet were about it, when they haven't been shown to give a shit about life on Earth. Pearl just parrots what Rose said, and Garnet wants to be a fusion.

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>>91799945
I never said I was expecting her to be changed in that scene, just have enough common sense to not utter her views in front of people who have been hostile towards her in the past because of said views.

>>91800529
I might be wrong but that actually seems to be heavily implied throught the entire series. It's not so much as emotionally damaged as is emotionally immature. Gems understand some love and personal growth, but throughout the whole series what we see more coming from them is unhealthy infatuation and poor coping methods.

Take Rose for example, she was just infatuated with the idea of humans, she didn't actually love them until Greg taught her how to properly express love at someone or something.

I might explain why Steven is so immature, actually. Yes, he's much more empathetic and less of a cunt than the Gems, but he still retains some of that stunted growth in his emotional intelligence. For all we know, he isn't just a little bitch and is actually incapable of maturing due to his Gem aspects.

>>91798982
She was always like that. Whenever she encounters something she strongly dislikes, she expresses her hostility in some exaggerated theatrical way.

See: Greg's traveling music. She shows that she doesn't like it by jumping out of the van.

>>91800724
>have enough common sense to not utter her views in front of people who have been hostile towards her in the past because of said views.
How do the gems expect people to join their rebellion if they're going to be senseless apes about?

>We want you to join us, but we won't allow you to discuss your views with us, or we'll get pissy about it and beat you up.

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>>91800819
Sounds like the target fanbase in a nutshell.

SJWs have garbage logic like that.

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>>91800580
The gems actually dislike humans. Fucking Pearl even think human life is worthless. Pearl and Garnet are fucking hypocrites.

>>91800819
Rose was the one who did the recruiting, and coincidentally is shown to be the only Gem who willingly listens to other points of view without becoming hostile. Not to mention that there was no real ideology behind the rebellion that the Gems cared about besides "being free". Saving Earth and humanity was purely Rose's thing, Pearl, Garnet, Bismuth and the others followed her without giving a shit about the turf they were fighting in.

>>91800529
I mean they had a thousand years to get used to humans. Eventually you just have to accept that it's an inherent defect

Which episode was this again?

>>91800738
Let's be honest here, that was straight up the best option. Asking him to turn it off would have led to an argument and smashing the radio would have led to a bigger argument.

Did an episode leak recently or something?

>>91801040
It Could Have Been Great

Aka the terrible episode before the one where Peridot has an entire 180 about Yellow Diamond.

>>91801499
I liked the song at least.

>>91798842
The watchers.

>>91801499
literally one of the best episodes in the series you mean

>>91798842
You for not staying in your shit show's general

>>91800928
Ironic that Peridot has ended up being the CG who most closely believes in their cause.

>>91803091
>Peridot was the only well written Gem
Really makes you think

>>91803091
That's because Steven convinced Peridot that Earth had a lot to offer, he didn't use the "stay here to be free from your oppressors" card on her.

The only reason Bismuth joined was because she's a Bolshevik, and the only reason Pearl and Garnet joined was because they were fucking thirsty.

>>91799218
>I have no physical might to back up my propaganda.
Normal people are civilized enough to not kick your ass for having different views. Otherwise only the physically biggest and strongest would be saying anything, aka. not most of 4chan

>>91799945
It's even worse when you realize the scene took place after all that bonding they did as recorded by peridot's tape logs.

>>91804355
But we already established the Gems are emotionally stunted. During that moment Peridot was still an elitist fuck, the least she could have done was prove to be more mature than the CG and keep her mouth shut.

>>91800928
"freedom is the right of all sentient beings"

Proof of Amethyst being best and purest CG despite living in garbage.

>>91798842
The CGs believed in Earth just because Rose said so, they couldn't form a real refutation of what Peridot was saying so they just got violent instead since that's what they did to those who disagreed with them originally

>>91801499
/co/ loved it. Are you trying to be a "cool" contrarian, anon?

>>91804424
Pre-barn Peridot is the best CG. Damn, she is better that fucking Rose

I always hated peridot. People keep blaming Zuke that she's wrong now but she's always been overrated

>>91801499
What on Earth were you talking about? The issue was the inappropriate memeface at the end. Everything else about that episode was top quality.

>>91806580
most people who watch cartoons are autistic and it's easy for autists to relate to peridot or find her funny

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>>91798842
I can't blame either of them desu, Peridot was shitting all over the gems' life's work and their sainted leader and Garnet reacted, but Peridot clearly has autism so you have to give her some slack

>>91800580
Amethyst and Peridot are the only Gems who care about Earth.
Garnet's just there so she can be a lesbian.
Pearl's just there because of Rose.
Lapis is just there because of Steven.

>>91800738
It showed she preferred to smash into the ground than engage in an awkward social conversation. Because she was stoic and uncomfortable around people. That was her thing. She was the stoic one. And it was cool.

>>91806973
> lashing out on people physically is stoic
Do you know what the word "stoic" means?

>>91806945
Peridot doesn't give a shit about the Earth, she just likes shipping and ayy lmaos

>>91803642
Man, Thirsty's head game must've been ridiculous then.

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>>91807092
Goddammit, Carlos!

>>91807007
Strawman arguments isn't gonna help you

>>91800580
Actually, Pearl likes Earth life a lot. She got excited about the strawberry fields that grew over the gen battlefield, because it was an example of how Earth can grow and heal compared to the static nature of gems. It's the messier aspects like humans she seems more ambivalent about.

>>91798842
It'd be basically like living in post-WWII Germany and then excitedly telling a bunch of jews how GREAT the new camps would've been,had they been brought to completion.

>>91800580
>>91800900
Like >>91807416 said. All of the Gems like earth.

They just don't like humans all that much. They love Nature. They probably like animals. They like how peaceful it is. They're mostly indifferent to humanity.

>>91800872
>twn be an arc where Lapis finds comfort in alcoholism and Steven tries desperately to curb her newfound addiction
Drunken molestation is implied, of course.

>>91807572
Can a gem get drunk? Like, we know they can get food poisoning. Which is odd to me since Amethyst got it from a 3 year old fish taco, despite the fact that she literally and regularly eats trash.

>>91807638
and the fact that their bodies are literally just light

how the fuck do you poison a hologram?

>>91807504
This is a false analogy, though. In your example the offender stresses how great the genocide itself would be. Peridot doesn't say great about the human genocide, she says it about the possible gem colony that would have resulted from it. The better comparison would be a /pol/ack ranting about how great the society would be after the jews are gassed, but even that isn't fair, because gassing jews isn't necessary for a better society, while gassing humans has to happen if Earth is to be terraformed.
Also, "stop saying things I don't agree with or I'll kill you" isn't a very nice response, no matter how retarded/misguided your interlocutor is.

>>91803576
>Gets turned into comic relief later
I enjoy a comic relief chracter as much as the next perosn (like Polnareff and Jospeh Joestar in stardust crusdaers) but it seems like after her whole adjusting arc all was left was just comic relief hopefullly in the next episodes they change that.

>>91807674
Garnet's reaction isn't exactly unwarranted.Peridot is basically doing the equivalent about geeking out about the destruction of everything Garnet has fought for and that many of her comrades died for. It'd be like going up to a veteran and shitting on their entire war efforts. They JUST might respond a bit hostile.

It's not even like Garnet punched her or anything. She just grabbed her by the color and told her "she doesn't know what she's talking about"

>>91800529
>it's an entire race of emotionally damaged people?
It's a race of autistic people, only diamonds are allowed to feel emotions. Most gems are just supposed to be automatons to fulfill a role. I don't even think high ranking gems are supposed to feel anything.

>>91798982
She's always been like that.

>"I thought... violence... would be the answer."

>>91803576
>best gem
and look at her now.

>>91807825
> only diamonds are allowed to feel emotions
> automatons
> I don't even think high ranking gems are supposed to feel anything
Uh, bud, the show doesn't support your speculation. All the gems we've seen so far look like they do feel emotions. Lapis felt plently of desperation, Jasper is angry or bitter 24/7, Holly is ecstatic over her superiors visiting, etc. Even Sapphire is shown to feel anger or fear (remember those times she was freezing the floor around her), she just doesn't express it too often.
And being autistic and not feeling emotions are like completely different things.

>>91807779
Speaking German woulda been great!!

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There's only one thing to do in a Peridot thread.

>>91799045
Hot.

>>91798842
why is peridot a midget?

>>91799138
just imagine, we could have had a show with no peridot or lapis, and the gems cruising around in space fighting homeworld in the temple-ship after the earth blows up. Best part? No more townies!

>>91808160
She got her shins blown off in the Baby War.

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>>91808088
Hell yeah!

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>>91808088

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>>91801499
What the actual fuck are you on about? It Could Have Been Great is one of the best episodes in the entire series. And she didn't have an "entire" 180, she got frustrated and called her a faggot.

Also the song at the beginning is incredible.

Fight me, faggot.

>>91807083
So pretty much like a human who spends too much time on the internet.

I'd say she's just a big fan of earth culture.

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>>91808088
Peripanda pyjama

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>>91808229

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>>91808211

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Peridot and Steven

>>91808458
I want Steven and peridot to save akward nerd sex so badly

>>91798842
Is this from leaks or something?

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>>91808458
>>91808088
2 is great. 3 is better.

how long until peridot shrinks to the 2'4 speck she is destined to be?

>>91808088
yes good.

>>91799081
At some point one or more of Garnet's fingers had deeply penetrated Peridot's body before she poofed.

>>91798842
Garnet. God damn, do you expect a gem who was never on earth and never in the war who has only spent like, two days with you to understand why Homeworld was wrong? Fucking retards.

>>91809006
>black coded gem is the most violent
>even more black coded gem is introduced
>she chimps out even harder
What did Sugar mean by this?

>>91798842
This scene only makes Peri a little unlikable

>>91811010
What? Pearl and Garnet were the assholes

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>>91811184
>>91808215
True. But when we got to the climax i decided "Yeah this is definitely a Peridot's a slut episode" It Could Have Been Great looks like a mix between The Simpsons's Deep Space Homer and Spongebob Squarepants's Im With Stupid. Peridot rot in garbage.

>>91798982
She's Sapphire most of the time, until she gets angry and turns into Ruby.

>>91798842
The Crystal Gems

>>91798842
Peridot was assaulted, kidnapped, and forced to work on this stupid eco-terrorism crap with them at the threat of her own death.
Then the Crystal Gems act like Peridot owes them because muh earf speshuls.

Fuck that. The Crystal Gems were in the wrong from the start.

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>>91808088

No! There is another.

>>91812188

When all living things on an entire planet, including themselves, were at stake, threatened by a weapon only she knew anything about?

Go eat a bag of dicks, anon.

>>91812417
Anon would rather all life on earth be completely destroyed because at least then we wouldn't have to be mean to a green person.

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>>91808088
I want Bara Steven to split Peridot in half with his monster cock.

>>91812430

But she hasn't even cried yet.

>>91812655

That seems like it would an excellent occasion.

"No! No, Steven please stop, you're hurting me!"

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>>91812686
>Steven fucks Peridot.
>She cries as he's too big for her tiny body and he's hurting her.
>Steven doesn't want to hurt Peridot so he goes slowly making sure to kiss her and hold her hand throughout.
>After there done they lie in bed with Steven hugging Peridot close.
>They kiss each other before they go to sleep.

>>91798842
Rebecca sugar for making the show.

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>>91813136
GFDI I'm hard now

>>91813136
>Not Shapeshifting smaller to ease her into it and slowly unshapeshifting to his normal size
It's sweet, but not utilizing Steven's power set.

>>91813644
Shit that's pretty good actually

>>91798842

Garnet.

That doesn't mean Peridot was right; her not realizing she was being a little shit is not an excuse. But you don't grab someone by the collar like that -particularly not someone a QUARTER OF YOUR FUCKING SIZE- and threaten them like that.

Garnet's actions are just one more example of how the Crystal Gems aren't the good guys they claim to be.

>>91813136
Disappointed it didn't end with him accidently poofing her.

>>91804395
>But we already established the Gems are emotionally stunted
wouldn't this also apply to peridot though and shouldn't the crystal gems be less emotionally stunted than peridot considering they've been free from home world much longer

>>91813715
In my experience, when doing lewds or fanfiction of a character, it's always more enjoyable to use their canon abilities.

It makes it feel more unique and not just. "insert character here does 'x' to insert character here"

t. That gif of Shadowcat giving a reverse blowjob.

>>91798842
garnet for being a sensitive bitch.
peridot said something fucked up but that doesnt mean you gotta punch her in the face.specially since peridot is so weak she couldnt do anything to stand against her.
pearl and amethyst got mad at her too and you didnt saw them trying to kill her

>>91804395
>the Gems are emotionally stunted.

By human standards, yes. But there is so much they outright never do because they're such a different form of life.

- No eating
- No sleeping (although that doesn't explain how they deal with fatigue. Did the CGs never sleep before 'Chille tid'?)
- No reconvalescing after an injury - it's active, injured, inactive, recovered
- No aging
- No childhood
- No physical intimacy outside of fusion (Maybe? I am not sure.)

What do gems even NEED to do? They don't even breathe.

So much of a human emotional set is related to our weaknesses. Hell, that was the whole plot of 'Inside out'.

>>91814037

Seconded. It's also pretty bad if people act out of character.

>>91814076
Ruby and Sapphire were getting pretty physical outside that diner

>>91807416
>>91807530
is the earth the first planet that the gems have come across that has life on it?

if not what is so special about earth as opposed to those other planets if not humans?

if it's not humans aka sentient life that makes earth special then why not choose one of the millions of planets that are theorized to have life on them as the home for their rebellion against home world

It occurs to me that I feel like people on /co/ have been more sensitive to characters acting irrational and violent ever since the SJW started feeling justified in being violent.

Like it's sorta interesting. I doubt if this show was on in the 90s anyone'd be like "Garnet that's totally uncalled for."

>>91812417
They might justify their abuses of her for the Greater Good (which is hypocritical and meaningless since the destruction of Earth is for the Greater Good), but that doesn't change the fact that she owes them nothing and she's their slave and they murdered thousands and thousands of her people in order to "protect" some podunk shithole and its native monkeys.

Peridot was just an engineer/civilian/non-combatant sent to do a quick job and go home, and the terrorists attacked her relentlessly, nearly getting her killed. And the CG's are so far up their own asses (or, more accurately, the writers are so far up their own asses) they think she should be grateful for their violence.

>>91812430
I am in favor of progress.
Or at the very least against Deep Ecologists, eco-terrorists, and other such idiots.

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>>91808088
Supreme taste there, anon

>>91799681
They couldn't show her personality at the time

>>91814222
>or, more accurately, the writers are so far up their own asses
Why do you automatically assume the writers want you to ALWAYS root for CGs? If anything, It Could Have Been Great is a very obvious example of an episode where they wanted you to disagree with them. Just because the writers show their mostly good guys side do something doesn't mean they condone it.

>>91814128
It's more...They're rebelling because they like Earth. If you think about the grand scheme of thing it's not some grandiose rebellion. It's literally just a small ragtag group of gems that decided they liked living on the earth and said "Hey let's protect this place".

They're not going after the diamonds. They're not trying to destroy the diamond authority. They're not liberating any other planets. They're just protecting and living on this planet they're fond of.

>>91814358
Only Rose liked Earth tho

>>91807779
i think the better analogy would be if peridot was a young child who had been indoctrinated into fundamental christianity and believed gays should be stoned to death, and garnet is an adult who once shared the same beliefs.
but when peridot expresses her beliefs instead of calmly telling her why she is wrong she shows no understanding of peridot's worldview even though she once shared that worldview and threatens her with violence

her threats of violence make no sense and come off like a dick move because peridot literally doesn't know any better this is her first time being exposed to different world views

>>91814447
Only Rose liked Earth for it being a constantly changing planet with humans and other organic lifeforms on it.
The other gems liked Earth for being a place where they can do whatever degenerate shit they want without homeworld ordering them around.

>>91814324
Because the show is all about how earth and humans are so quirky and special and wonderful and progressive and the Gems are meany mean heads.

>>91798842
You, for watching SU.

>>91814500
>humans are so quirky and special and wonderful and progressive and the Gems are meany mean heads
Well, are the Crystal GEMS humans or gems?

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>Garnet will never grab your tits and tell at you
Why even live

>>91798842
>Now that the dust has settled,
I truly regret starting this meme. Please forgive me.

>>91814637
>Hey guys look at me I started a meme
Neck yourself reddit

>>91814718
I am truly sorry. I don't mind you calling me names.

>>91814470
A better analogy is that Peridot is an engineer sent to do maintenance on some facilities on an island somewhere.
Local terrorists (who have killed, imprisoned, and so on countless numbers of their own people) repeatedly harass and assault her and finally capture her and force her to work with them on their reactionary quest against modernity.

Since she's an engineer, she of course geeks out about the original plan to strip mine the island, establish a shipyard and airport, and probably put in a fully automated McD's or whatever, and one of the reactionaries flips the fuck out because muh poor monkeys that would be killed.

>>91814358
>>91814484

>They're rebelling because they like Earth

but what makes earth special?

>Only Rose liked Earth for it being a constantly changing planet

well why don't they go live on one of the trillions of other planets in the universe where home world won't try to kill them constantly now that she is dead?

there are really only two reasons the gems would stay on earth

1 it's the only planet they are aware of with life of any kind on it. because any planet with life on it would have some kind of nature that the gems could appreciate.

2 or they specifically value human life. which they are shown not to.

so what are there reasons for staying on earth as opposed to going out into space and finding another planet that homeworld doesn't care about?

>>91815006
Rose liked it

>>91814787
i agree with your analogy but i still think my analogy is better because it shows peridot literally doesn't know any better and it shows why garnet who was once in the same situation as peridot should understand her reasoning and be much more sympathetic than what she is

>>91815006
Home world isn't really actively trying to kill Earth. They seem to have deemed earth a lost cause and just ditched it, assuming all the gems on earth had become corrupted.

Sometime afterwards they probably put the cluster in there, hoping that they don't completely lose their investment.

But In all honesty I think up until recently Earth was the furthest from their concerns. Asking "what makes earth so special" works both ways. Why would the homeworld keep going after earth? Why wouldn't they just move on to planets they haven't yet discovered?"

Which is sorta what it's implied that they did. Peridot is probably the first gem from homeworld to be aware that the crystal gems were still a thing. Lapis was just some sort of eternal prisoner (kept so long the gems probably forgot she was one) For all intents and purposes no one seriously thought about the earth for millennia before yellow diamond was like "hey, let's put a cluster in that bitch. If we can't build a colony there we can at least use it as an experiment"

>>91815047
exactly and that's my problem with the crystal gems the enjoy earth but they only enjoy it passively at the best of times.
there's no ep where they take steven out to bird watch or watch the trees rustle in the wind they don't wax philosophically about how great life and change is in comparison to the stagnation of home world.
no they don't do any of that instead they see a flower where there wasn't one before and go "oh that's nice"

>>91815131
The problem with your analogy is that it isn't about "knowing better." Her values are incompatible, not opposed, to the CG's (the CG's are opposed to her values, but that is what makes them reactionary, the reactionary comes along after the thing they oppose and wishes to roll it back).
Peridot doesn't want to destroy all life on Earth, she just regards it as irrelevant in the grand scheme of things. The important part is the really cool things that could be done with Earth, not that said cool things would kill humans.

>>91815314
pretty much

pearl only liked earth because of rose
garnet because muh fusion
amethyst just goes with anything

>>91815190
but now the diamonds are aware of earth and the crystal gems clearly fear the diamonds. so why do they stay. they have clearly been shown to have no special attachment to earth see>>91815314
they either have no reason or an extremely weak one

but now we are getting into a lot of the other problems that the show has such as the complacency of the humans and, how strong the gyms are in comparison to humans and so on

>>91815518
At this point the gems have lived on the earth for MILLENIA.
Keep in mind that only Garnet and Pearl have been anywhere but earth.

Both Steven and Amethyst were born there and have much more attachment to it. Steven would never leave. Amethyst would probably never leave.

And even now, the diamonds aren't getting directly involved in the earth. They're still under the assumption the cluster time bomb they planted will take care of it. It could probably be 100 years before they notice that the earth, is in fact, not exploding violently when they think it will.

It is also important to realize, based on what we've seen, I'm under the impression that the gems have been on earth longer than humans have. At least our idea of modern humanity.

>>91815190
There's only been a few Gems sent to Earth out of an empire that spans multiple galaxies. It is obviously not a priority for them.
Gem beuracracy might also move really, really, really slow. It may have taken thousands of years for Pink Diamond's desk to be cleared out and her projects picked back up.

>>91815661
>At this point the gems have lived on the earth for MILLENIA.
the gems are effectively mortal this should be nothing to them. the same as saying you and i lived in a place for 5 years or so not to mention they spend all their free times in their rooms

>Steven would never leave. Amethyst would probably never leave.
they are the children of the group if you were a parent and you lived in a place where every few years the military tried to kill you and the rest of your family. would you as parent in that situation stay because your children wanted to or would you force them to leave for their own good

>It could probably be 100 years before they notice that the earth
isn't that like no time for the gems

when it comes down to it the only reason they should stay on earth is because they care about human life and the show goes out of its way to show that they don't

>>91815967
Humans aren't the only thing on earth though. There's lots of gem structures. There's lots of nature. There's one sun and one moon.

There's lots of memories. They literally spent hundreds of years and lost many comrades fighting for it. It's their home. They don't want to die but they also don't want to leave and lose that. I don't know why that's hard for you to understand.

>>91815967
>military

The Gem Empire sent an engineer and an officer with a gunboat. That's not really a war machine gearing up.
There was the whole Cluster thing, but that was more a coincidence. We're gonna blow up a planet with this experiment, let's blow up that annoying one.

>>91814108

I think I am not speaking out of turn when I say they are special.

Then again, the Rubies seemed to like to get physical with whom they thought was Jasper.

Hmmm. There are many ways to explore this and they are all pretty lewd.

>>91814128

Maybe rebellions happen all the time...

>>91814222
>some podunk shithole and its native monkeys.

Why would I even read your shit, you self-loathing imbecile?

>sent to do a quick job

The job being the defiling and torturing of shattered gems. If that did not tip her off that there was something morally wrong here... frankly, she needed to be pounded into shape.

>she's their slave

1) Kinky.
2) All gems are slaves in the Homeworld system. They might not mind it, but they have to work, they do not get paid and they can't leave, either. That is slavery. What do you think Agates are for? They even have WHIPS for Christ's sakes.

>I am in favor of progress.
>Or at the very least against Deep Ecologists, eco-terrorists, and other such idiots.

I am in favor of survival. And I think humans are not the only beings with rights.

>>91814598

Yeee-haaaa.

>>91814787

Do the monkeys have the right to kill her, since she is trying to kill them without provocation?

And by the way, that 'maintenance' involved using the still-alive, still-conscious bodies of maimed members of her own kind to create monstrous weapons.

>>91815190
>Home world isn't really actively trying to kill Earth.

"I want that planet to die. I do not care about 'resources'."

You are so full of shit.

>>91816400
>"I want that planet to die. I do not care about 'resources'."
She does want the planet to die. That's not a lie. But like...I want wasps to die. I hate them.

I'm not going out my way to swat every wasp.

Earth is not a huge priority for homeworld. If it was they would've destroyed it MILLENIA ago. They hate it. But they found it better to just corrput all the gems living on it and just leave. They're not actively sending troops there anymore. They're not razing the land and burning the planet to the ground

Lapis alone was capable of lifting the ENTIRE OCEAN INTO SPACE. With a shattered Gem.

You could send like 20 gems there to destroy the planet over the course of a century if they really hated it that much.

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>>91816084
>I don't know why that's hard for you to understand.
because it doesn't make any sense think about this exact situation in a different context. you and your friend fought a war and essentially won so you decide to make your home on the battlefield and raise your children there. the war starts back up and instead of leaving to find someplace similar to the one you currently live in you stay and you don't stay to save the people who live on the battlefield with you.
you stayed because you once fought a war there a you have a lot of memories of the battlefield.

oh but thats not it you make your child fight the war with you because he's lived on the battlefield his entire life and doesn't want to leave

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>>91814598
>getting spanked by someone with hard angular rocks embedded in their palms

>>91816577
You're literally describing America.

>>91816196
every few years at the gem government sends someone to kill them peridot, jasper, the rubies, and now these two new gems and every time they get really close

how is this not the same as the government sending a hit man after you every few years but you keep narrowly escaping each time if you could solve this problem by moving why wouldn't you?

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Amy a best

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>>91816710
>You're literally describing America.
really so America fought its war of independence because
> they once fought a war there a you have a lot of memories of the battlefield

>>91816748
>every few years at the gem government sends someone to kill them peridot, jasper, the rubies, and now these two new gems and every time they get really close

First of all, Peridot is probably the first homeworld gem to be on that planet in centuries. She hadn't even HEARD of the Crystal gems.

2ndly Jasper was just extra muscle in case peridot needed backup while checking out the cluster.

The RUBIES were sent to recover jasper and ONLY to recover jasper.

Literally none of them were sent to earth with the explicit mission to kill them.

And all of this stuff is all happening VERY recently in the timeline. I'm not even sure if the Diamonds are aware that the crystal gems are on earth. All they know for sure is that Peridot has turned traitor.

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>>91798842
Gems are evil monsters and must be wiped out for the safety of any sentient life still left in the galaxy. They bring nothing but ruin wherever they go, and even "renegade" gems don't care at all about the native life of the planet they inhabit.

>>91816903
Why wouldn't Americans just leave and let England take over America? All it was was soil and land. There's that basically EVERYWHERE on earth.
There's PLENTY of other places they could've gone to.

>>91816941
>Peridot is probably the first homeworld gem to be on that planet in centuries

they are immortal there's an episode where pearl says 5000 years is like nothing to them it's implied that pearl and garnet are at the very least tens of thousands of years old

>Literally none of them were sent to earth with the explicit mission to kill them

all of them were sent on a mission directly related to destroying earth

Peridot to check on the cluster
Jasper to make sure Peridot got her job done without problems
The RUBIES were sent to recover jasper and and to see if she had completed her mission
amd now the 2 new gems kidnapping people

>>91817186
>they are immortal there's an episode where pearl says 5000 years is like nothing to them it's implied that pearl and garnet are at the very least tens of thousands of years old

Yeah but you said every few years a gem comes to earth to kill them.

Gem activity from off planet just recently started back up from as far as the gems are aware. They've basically lived in peace on earth, probably since BC times.

>>91816982
a lot of people did just that and then there was the majority of people who did not have the means to simply leave
it's not like they could build a spaceship out of garbage and fly to a place that england had never heard up and wanted nothing to do with
also these people lived off what their land producer to take their land was to take away their means of surviving

to a person who does not need sleep, food, water, or shelter what purpose does a long-term residence fulfill?

>>91817424
i meant that from their perspective to them it would seem like the war had just ended and now home world is trying to blow up the planet

>>91817436
It's worth mentioning Pearl DID try to leave. She tried building a spaceship and going off to space with Steven.

The only other way off planet than building a space ship at this point would be the gem transporters, all which were intentionally left inactive so that homeworld gems couldn't teleport onto earth and kill them.

So the only way on and off of the world would be to build a space ship and fly there.

So the gems would literally have to do that to leave. And considering they'd already stayed and fought and the diamonds left them alone for thousands of years there was never a reason to leave. Especially when you remember that Rose has only been dead for 14-15 years.

They only JUST found out about the cluster and now that that's gone, there was no reason for the diamonds to personally come to earth. They'd have just continued assuming the earth was on a death clock for the forseeable future.

The rubies were launched out randomly into space, They managed to cover up the fact that they stole Greg back from the base, and the only reason the diamonds would come to earth for the foreseeable future would be for more humans for the zoo.

>>91817507
I honestly think it still felt like a long time. Sure they live incredibly long time, but I think even if you're 40, 10 years feels like a long time.

Like assuming gems are living in real time that'd mean that it feels like every minute is a new day, and I'm pretty sure that's not how it is for them. I mean hell, when they talk about rose they talk like she's been gone for a long time and she's only been gone for 15 years.

>>91816748
>every few years

No. The Gem Empire didn't even know they were still alive or around.
In the past (year? couple months? week?) the Empire has started sending a few gems out to Earth, but they're all nobodies. If the Empire got serious, Earth would be toast and bailing would make sense, but for the most part Earth is as irrelevant as a planet can be.
Yes, Yellow Diamond said she wants it destroyed, but in a manner of speaking she wants everything destroyed.

The other point is how would the Crystal Gems escape anyway? They'd need to either use the teleportation system (which can only take them to other worlds the Gems know about) or steal a Gem ship which would just make their situation worse. If you think their pissed off now, wait until you see what happens when you go joyriding in their military hardware.

>>91817734
see>>91817507

>>91817798
see >>91817693

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>Rose is the one Goddess and Steven is her prophet, behead those who insult the Gem Rebellion

goddamit Sugar you werent even subtle about it

>>91798982
ironically, this is the one aspect of her character they havent fucked up, she was always a hot head behind her cool facade

>>91817693
all of that makes sense all i'm trying to say is that if you put a real people in roughly the same situation 9 times out of 10 they would leave all you have to do is look at the refugee crisis for proof of that

>>91817693
>>91817823
>I honestly think it still felt like a long time
there's nothing to suggest that in fact pearl says the exact opposite

> if you're 40, 10 years feels like a long time
a more accurate comparison would be if you live a 100 years is a day still a long time and even still that's not even close to accurate

>Like assuming gems are living in real time
they do but that doesn't mean time weighs on them the same way it does us if anything i think it all bleed together for them that would explain why amethyst could forget her best friend for years at a time or why pearl and garnet could live on a planet for 5000 years plus and still never have any meaningful interactions with its native people it seems to me like the gyms are completely content and just existing

>>91818333
But why does time go faster? it's all about personal perspective.

The reason why time seems to go faster as you get older is because your brain is hot wired to ignore stimuli that become too repetitive.

We don't exactly understand how old Garnet and Pearl are. We assume they're much older than earth is, but that's all speculation. They could be like...8 when the war began and we wouldn't know. It'd still feel like "their childhood" if they were indeed that young when it first occurred. Because their only context for time would be based on when they were born vs. How long they've been alive, the origin of that life would feel like a definite "Long time ago".

Even then, New Stimuli will slow down your perspective significantly. Basically living with Steven, for one, would definitely make it feel like time has substantially slowed down.

Having to deal with Greg might make time slow down a bit.

Even the Beach City settlers settle near their base probably would be different enough to cause time to slow down for them. Until they got used to it and everything would speed up for them again.

>>91818586
>But why does time go faster
i never said that
>Because their only context for time would be based on when they were born vs. How long they've been alive
pearl says 5000 years is like nothing to them also your sense of what is a long time has much more to do with how long you think you are going to live rather than how long you actually lived that's why someone can rationalize spending their entire 20's and 30's working a job they hate so they can have a lot of money for retirement

>>91798842
The fusion was in the wrong.

Fusion is unnatural and against the order of gems.

Rose allowed it because she got a sick pleasure from seeing a walking abomination.