/doag/ - Damn Ol' Assholes Gather

>The Non-Paying Fans Of The Comic Actually Enjoy This Strip, Contrary To The Opinions Of The Paying Fans Edition

What? Is that from the last thread or something

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>>91738530
It probably would have helped to post an example, but yes.

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>>91738433

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Yesterday's Patreanon thread, be back in a flash with today's.

Thanks for making the thread anon. I really do appreciate it. I don't care for making threads.

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>Sal is approximately five heads tall
>one head is approximately nine and one-half inches high
>Sal is approximately forty-seven and one-half inches high
>Sal is approximately 3.95833333 feet tall

Umm.

>>91738678
>being this autistic

It's not like having proportionally bigger heads is a legitimate stylistic art form or anything.

>>91738678
That's honestly being nitpicky, it's a cartoonish style and some people pull off those proportions in real life. The real problem is that this is basically a model sheet, and if these proportions aren't apparent (due to Willis' buffer) within 3 months of that creation, then he's inconsistent.

Fuck the 5 heads thing, her right leg is fucking shorter than her left and Willis has never seen anyone smoke before.

>>91738678
Apparently Indiana University has a campus in the Shire.

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If Amber weren't Mary Sue enough for you, now she's a chubby nerd girl with Olympic gold medal acrobatic skills and she can VA and throw her voice like a pro like it's nothing.

Next comic, she'll catch the winning sports ball, and then sign the World Peace accord.

>>91738851
BULLSHIT!

>>91738773
>>91738788
I'm just saying, an 18 year old woman should not be the height of somebody half her age.

>>91738851
Is throwing your voice a thing you can actually do? I know it's supposedly a parlor trick or something, and also it happened in "Scooby-Doo", but is it an actual thing?

Also, yeah, this is just stupid.

>>91738914
Throwing your voice is definitely a thing, but it's very difficult, and even people who can do it well have trouble if the acoustics of the room aren't perfet.

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>>91738583
Here's how that thread ended up, fyi.

Minderrific or whatever has been worse than Cerb lately, but I haven't had the desire or patience to read and cap Willis's house retards lately.

>>91738851
Where is Amber's bullshit 'signal cable'? Vanished into the realm of retcon most likely

Amber refusing to interact with Sal directly is getting old fucking fast. As in it was old years ago fast.

>>91739434
At least they're making... some progress?
I doubt we'll get any actual progression soon until the end of the Rapin' Ryan story or whatever.

>>91738914
>I'm just saying, an 18 year old woman should not be the height of somebody half her age.
Even the shortest person I know (that doesn't have dwarfism) is only 4'9". Being barely 4 feet tall is generally known as being a preteen.

>>91738914
>I'm just saying, an 18 year old woman should not be the height of somebody half her age.

Dipper and Mabel are roughly the height of a one year old child. Lincoln Loud is the same height as a three year old. Cartoon and comic characters tend to have weird heights.

>>91738851
Shitty. Like all around.
.
Amber popping up instead of yelling to close the cocoon is dumb.

The ensuing freak out is rote by this point.

Throwing her voice is a lame diversion and the idea that he went for a diversion instead of making them confront things even a little sucks. It's probably not a good sign when a character has to just describe the thing that happened.

Speaking of which, "Ha, ha, fell into a ravine" is an awkward thing for Amber to say considering she can see what's happening, and ravine is the least unique/humorous Mario Kart obstacle ever. He went from using blue shells as a metaphor for Amber's honorable nature (which he can fuck all the way off with), but he couldn't pull a chain chomp or thwomp reference?

And to top it off, there's not really a punchline in this strip. The closest thing is Danny's line, maybe? Or just he absurdity of her throwing her voice in general. Since this strip does end on a light note more naturally than most of the other ones he forces weird jokes into, he should've been able to find a better way to finish it off.

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>>91738851
Remember how this was supposed to be the Willis comic without superpowers or divine god interventions?

Pepperidge Farm don't remember fuck all.

>>91739640
My nephew is in second grade and is already taller than four feet.

>>91739873
That went out the door the moment Becky and her father survived a rollover in his car and while he was hanging halfway out of the driver's side window, Sal caught Amazi-Girl on her bike as she defied physics and flew sideways and directly into the path of an oncoming truck, and...

...well, everything Toedad Saga. There's really no point in pretending there's any sense anymore.

>>91739945
I'd be willing to bet that he still expects us to treat it as a realistic setting.

>>91739945
I just want to know when the Cheese is going to make his big appearance and level the place. Maybe Joyce has a psychic break and becomes the Cheese/ Carrie?

>>91738914
I'm saying that your calculation of her height is wrong because you're basing it on a bad assumption about the size of her head being the same as a normal human and not a cartoon character. For a better scale argument see if you can find a pic of her walking through a doorway, doors are 6'8" tall.

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>>91740685
>find a pic
I'll give you four.

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>>91740762

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>>91740782

>>91740685
I did it myself, she's 5'0".

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>>91740805

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Have this bonus I found in the tags that actually has some subtle set-up for Amber realizing Sal is Sal.

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>>91740844
I say "subtle" because this is how the conflict is reintroduced two years later.

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>>91740808
Mine: 6.5*133/172 = 5.026

>>91740762
6.5*100/122 = 5.43

>>91740782
6.5*182/203 = 5.83

>>91740805
Floor and feet are not visible, and panel is out of scale with the ones showing the bottom of the door.

>>91740822
6.5*162/199 = 5.29

>>91740844
Top of door and bottom of sal not visible in frame


...So he doesn't draw her entirely consistently (or maybe it's the doors that aren't consistent), but she's consistently over 5'.

>>91740913
>Amazi-Girl Phone Tracker application
>on Sal's phone
>nothing happens with it at all

I forgot that happened.

So I suppose the conclusion is that Willis can't into model sheets, and his characters aren't intended to be four feet tall.

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>>91740913
Little nitpick but 6'8" is 6.66... not 6.5.

Also I tried it with these 2 strips and got 4' 7.6" and 4' 8.9"

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>>91741209
>the first strip, Jason is brushing the top of the door frame with his hair
>The second, his hair barely clears the knob

I'm really questioning this endeavor to call Willy out on technical character heights.

Can't we just say he's shit and be done with it? How tall is Willis in this panel? Does it match up?

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>>91738851
She broke up with Danny for talking to Sal. Amber is a fucking cunt...but I'd bang her in the ass so I'm conflicted...

>>91741417
There is nothing conflicting about fucking someone you hate in the ass.

>>91741209
Did the Sal/Jason plot ever go anywhere?

>>91741645
Yeah. On slipshine. That's it.

>>91741645
>Did the Sal/Jason plot ever go anywhere?
Right now Sal hates his guts and doesn't want to talk to him. Jason's lost his confidence in being a good tutor and tried to talk to Walky but he avoided getting help.

So. him getting help might lead into some sort of discussion of Sal if we follow the trend of extremely unprofessional faculty.

For reference, Word of God says Joyce is 5'4" and Ethan is 6'0". It's on his Tumblr.

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>>91738851
Shitty as the comic may be, I always enjoy somer super ventriloquism.

>>91738678
Who the fuck wants magnets

>>91742852
necrobumper

>>91742857
>necrobumper
I prefer the term undead-flipper

>>91740913
>>91741209

As much as I like to see Willis getting a swift kick over his art, I have to say this argument is retarded

>>91741849

Clark needs to change to Superman just to use his powers? Im pretty sure this is one power he could use with his street clothes on standing right next to Perry and still get the same result

Sal would be pretty hot if it wasn't for that costly middleman.

Her personality

>>91741802
God isn't real therefore those measurements aren't real.

>>91738851
>Oh god, it's Sal, the nexus of all my childhood drama. Her very presence is stressing me the fuck out!
>Lol, let me just pull off a fancy trick to fuck with her.

>>91738851
Stop stalling Willis god damn...

>>91745769
It's either stalling or the eventual cop out when they get to the point. Not much to look forward to.

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Did he ever actually make porn of these two, or is this just false advertising

>>91748434
A censored version was posted in an earlier thread. It's pretty stupid.

>>91748434
This would be like the third instance, and yes it's an actual drawing. Not sure why it wouldn't be? Someone posted an edit of it in prior thread >>91627267.

>>91748434
Even Willis isn't dumb enough to do a fakeout on his pornography.

>>91738851
Is it even possible to throw your voice far off like that? I mean that must take some serious skill or something.

>>91750767
Amber wrote a program for her DS that allows her to hijack PA systems and broadcast messages.

Doesn't this strip indicate that Sal knows Amber is Amazi-Girl?

>>91750820
>Amber wrote a program for her DS
Pretty sure it's a 3DS.
in that case, I could kinda buy it as some advanced homebrew she downloaded.
Then again, how did she use it without exiting Mario Kart?

>>91750855
She hacked the game. In real time.

>>91750855
The blue thing that looks like a DS is actually her phone. For some reason.

>>91748434
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nPLf38VDiwnL4qk1aOyB2Tmmd0mg4j7GWqfjE1x-kis/edit?usp=sharing

>>91741645
Sal's grades didn't go up. She blamed Jason. She started studying on her own and started to get better grades.

>>91750820
>>91750855
Source, please.

>>91750855
>>91751279
I know Willis has done no research into 3DS homebrew, but I have so I'll show off my power level.
Mario Kart is not an entrypoint into 3DS homebrew programs, but some games are. The most commonly used titles were Cubic Ninja, IronFall, and the 3DS YouTube app; all of these and several others have been patched, though some entry points still exist. It's possible to overflow integers and other techie shit and run your own code, whether it be a specific program or a launcher into a library of programs you have on your SD card.

But making those programs would require a computer and compiler, as the 3DS is too inefficient to do all that jazz itself, much less compile and run a program in real-time.

>>91751512
Yeah, if it was a blue thing, then it's her phone. Apparently she has a wallet case. And also it's her personal Amber phone that she uses despite doing everything in her power to separate any links from Amazi-Girl to Amber.

>>91752286
>And also it's her personal Amber phone that she uses despite doing everything in her power to separate any links from Amazi-Girl to Amber.
This is related to a trait that many of the characters have: they are not as smart as they think they are.

>>91750820
>Doesn't this strip indicate that Sal knows Amber is Amazi-Girl?
Not sure I follow the logic here. Anyway, the reason she is throwing her voice is because Sal explicitly doesn't know that she's Amazi-Girl. Otherwise she would just look at Amber.

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>>91751512
>The blue thing that looks like a DS is actually her phone.

>>91752286
>Yeah, if it was a blue thing, then it's her phone. Apparently she has a wallet case.

It's supposed to be a smartphone that slides out to reveal a keyboard (cause she's a power user!). Willis used to show it swiveling way too much as if it were a hinged model (look at that second strip, it's opening like a clamshell), when it's probably similar to a Nokia E7 where it slides and tilts to a fixed angle. He does a better job with that recently.

Out of curiosity, how many people post here and in the DoA comments section?

Don't post your name there, obviously. You'll never hear the end of it.

>>91753460
I used to comment on notable strips, but I pretty much never go over there anymore.

>>91753410
I still have no idea how that phone is supposed to work. All I know is that anybody with an eye for detail should notice Amber and Amazi-Girl using the same model of phone. Also, I know that Amazi-Girl shouldn't be using the same phone as Amber; I feel that we're all familiar enough with the whole midnight rally/Rapin' Ryan scenario to understand why.

>>91753460
I only post when I feel like I have something to say that's "innocent" enough to get past Willis' strict set of standards.

>>91753626
>I only post when I feel like I have something to say that's "innocent" enough to get past Willis' strict set of standards.
Same. I used to post there every so often. Almost never since the Mary/Carla incident.

I still fail to see how what Mary hates the most is that Carla exists/is trans. She hates it when people bother her. I'm pretty sure she hates Roz far more than she hates Carla, for one thing.

>>91753460
i used to post there pretty frequently but i got pissed off at the other commenters and gave it up

i kept it up for a little while because my name linked to my own comic and i hoped people would click on it but then i committed to not posting anymore and refuse to go back on my word

>>91753460
I commented on the Nightstar Zoo back in the day (old IW! forum), and on Shortpacked! for a while (even got banned once by Willy for a bit), but never on DoA.

He's long ago chased away any commenters who were tolerable when I commented, and now it's the new crew that makes me want to gouge my eyes out when I read their dreck.

>Performative Allyship and the De-Amplifying of Marginalized Voices

Congrats, you own a fucking thesaurus. Now can you use it to write a comic with actual characters instead of strawmen and author surrogates?

>>91756061
No, but he can come up with a lot of cheap ways of insulting someone's parents.

>>91739265
Cerb is a tranny who uses the strip as a tool for therapy, right? What's mind's excuse?

>>91758119
I don't think any of us know that one. They probably read a lot of books, because bad decisions can make good stories.

>>91758119
I'm pretty sure he's new. I have no idea if he posts on the main page since I try to stay away from that. All I know is he loves CAPS and he's the most rabid Willy defender I've seen in a while.

I mean, as brain damaged as Cerb is, she's more of a defender of her favorite characters than a defender of Willis. She's basically tried to co-opt her faves as parts of herself, rather than them being parts of Willy, and I do believe she's altered the course of the comic to some small degree by doing so.

>>91757189
I just thought of something. Amber's dad kidnapped Danny. Becky's dad kidnapped Becky.

If Ruth's granddad kidnaps Billie or Howard, can we definitely say that Willis has no creativity?

>>91758432
Oh man. Sir Clint the Bold would totally kidnap Billie to get rid of her influence on his granddaughter too.

Now I want the arc where Old Man Clint chloroforms Billie, throws her in the trunk of a car, and tries to drive it off into the nearest quarry while the rest of the cast give chase.

>>91758560
>They finally catch up to them at the quarry where they find Clint and Billie have bonded over their mutual disdain for others and desire to maintain the socioeconomic standing of their family through personal relationships
>Clint then gets Billie's DUI expunged and Billie hooks up Howie with one of the slutty underclassmen with low standards at her old high school

Billie becomes the granddaughter who didn't turn out to be a pathetic, mentally weak, spineless loser like her father that Clint never had.

>>91739750
Exaggerated shortness usually is done to indicate youth or extreme age.

>>91759528
See, that would be hilarious. But it won't happen.

Instead, we'll just get Clint kidnapping Howard in what is blatantly a kidnapping that everybody (including Howard) except for the main cast will seem to ignore, followed by dramatic tension and actual conflict being punctuated by unnecessary and often inappropriate jokes.

>>91760433
Howard lives with Clint. He drove to the university with Clint. It's not kidnapping if you're taking someone home.

>>91761385
Good point. Then we'll have to hastily write and illustrate a weak sequence in which Ruth and/or Billie convince Howard that Clint is abusing him, after which Howard can officially be considered kidnapped, thus keeping with our original gameplan.

This sequence will be completed within the hours of 12AM to 8AM and somehow only consist of four strips.

>>91753836
the fact that she was willing to use it as an insult means she existentially hates trans people rather than, you know, being willing to use whatever thinks she will hurt someone she's mad at.

>>91756061
>De-Amplifying

I've heard of this.

It's called MUTING.

>>91758432
Howard is a minor and Clint is his legal guardian, it wouldn't be kidnapping without actually going through the legal process to remove custody.

>>91761429
That's still not enough to be kidnapping. Parental kidnapping requires a violation of custody arrangements with the guardian of the child. Ruth and Billie can kidnap Howard, but Clint can't kidnap Howard unless his custody rights have been removed.

And good luck getting Willis to introduce and resolve a plot in anything less than two weeks.

>>91761535
>she existentially hates trans people

Who can blame her?

De-amplifying isn't a word.

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>>91761585
>>91761974

>>91761535
One of the most annoying flaws with this storyline was that Carla voluntarily followed Mary down the hall. Imagine if Carla had just gone back to her room. Mary would never have said anything transphobic, and Ruth wouldn't have shown her magical teleportation powers. And Carla wouldn't have mentioned her trans status to Ruth. Interesting.

Did Danny and Ethan ever fuck? Literally the only reason I kept reading for a couple months after I realized this was bad.

>>91766681
No, but there's an implication that they'll at least kiss at some point before or during June.

>>91766798
Thank you for validating my decision to quit this dissapointment glacier.

>>91766926
See you tomorrow, anon.

>>91762350
Sorry, I'm still trying to figure out what the fuck "performative allyship and the de-amplifying of marginalized voices" means.
The more I try, the more my headache grows.
Allyship isn't a word, either.

>>91768126
See below from last thread:

>>91692414
>Okay, female here. I have a Master's degree in English and took 2 feminism-based literature classes in grad school (to be fair, I didn't know one of them would be focused on women). I also spend enough time on Tumblr to get a full picture of what we have here.

>Ally = someone who stands up for minorities

>Marginalization = ignoring minorities in mainstream stuff and treating them like crap

>Thus: marginalized voices = minorities who try to speak up but are shut down by straight, white men

>Performative allyship = claiming to be an ally for the sake of being an ally and saying that you are so awesome for helping the cause

>De-amplifying = muting, smothering, etc.

>De-amplifying voices = speaking over someone


>Let's put all of this together.

>Performative allies are people who pretend to be good friends of minorities but don't actually give a crap about them.

>Performative allies who de-amplify marginalized voices are people who yell "BLACK LIVES MATTER" when actual black people are talking.

>Roz is screwed, because she talked over Leslie about gay rights, and this seems distinctly pointed toward shutting her down for good.

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Can't Amberzingal just drive her 5'2" meat vehicle off the nearest fucking cliff and be done with it?

Also, enjoy the blatant fuck-up in the last panel by Davey 'Three Month Bumper' Willis.

>>91768692
Can someone explain wtf she's talking about in plan english? Like, they're doing better, yet not at the same time?

>>91768825
She's crazy. Like she actually needs professional psychological help.

Which is somehow making her more attractive to me. Damnit.

>>91768692
Danny, how the fuck are you not still mad she pretty much burned any bridge with you after seeing you with Sal after the dumbest misunderstanding, only to start getting chummy with Sal 2 seconds later?

>>91768825
Amber is tricking herself into thinking she has multiple personalities, known as DID (Dissociative Identity Disorder). Literally don't get me started.

I don't have the time or emotional energy for this crap tonight. I just can't do this right now.

Just search previous threads for Girlanon on here or DesuArchive or whatever.

>>91768692
Also, Danny's cheek blushes look weirder than normal.

>>91768692
I'm not sure why Danny is happy to see them getting along. All he knows is that Amber/Amazi-Girl freaked out at him for talking to her. If I were in his situation I'd think it's bullshit that it ended the relationship but they're palling around now.

>We can be at each other's throats a bit
When were Amber and Amazi-Girl ever at odds with each other, outside of AG befriending Sal and that bothering Amber? They seem to work together really well, with AG taking over when Amber can't handle stuff. Also, this is all insane bullshit.

Took me a while to notice that "...Oh." above Amber in that last panel. Probably just a layer issue, I guess.

>>91768692
If Danny's next sentence after whatever the fuck Amber just said there isn't "get some mental help you fucking werido" then I will be disappointed.

>>91768884
Chubby, short, muscular, extreme amount of daddy issues, psychologically unstable, probable D/s kinks; I get you, anon, Lord only knows how much I get you.

>>91768692
I can't wait until Amazi-Girl actually kills someone so Amber develops a superhero persona to hunt down the now-maligned Amazi-Girl.

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>>91768692
This one's straight from the website, and the error is ready to go live as well.

>Amber talking about her height
It's like Willis was in here last night.

Meanwhile, I'm sure Girlanon has something to say about how Amber treats her self-diagnosed DID, so I'll just wait for her. Also, are we really at a point where we anticipate the replies of others in these threads? I keep calling these General Threads as a joke.

Also, I can't tell if that's Amber's cleavage or if she's supposed to have some kind of abs.

>>91769032
Oh, hi.

>>91769130
If Willis doesn't have to draw the outside curve of the bust he just pulls a Chris Anka and draws a single curved line in the center of the chest for the boobs.

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>>91769130
>Oh, hi.
Hi there!

>Meanwhile, I'm sure Girlanon has something to say about how Amber treats her self-diagnosed DID, so I'll just wait for her. Also, are we really at a point where we anticipate the replies of others in these threads? I keep calling these General Threads as a joke.

Aww, thanks! I can try to get some of it on here tonight, but like... this past week has been pretty awful.

Also, her boobs are coming out of her shirt like Mage Hand is lifting them.

>three month buffer
Willis could take 3 months of writing classes before he has to pen another strip.

>>91769436
>>91769444
Maybe it's just another one of her bullshit superpowers: Super-Cleavage.

>I can try to get some of it on here tonight, but like... this past week has been pretty awful.
Nah, you don't have to do anything. You've said enough in these threads as it is; you deserve a break. Sorry to hear your week has been rough.

>>91769444
Mage Hand cam only lift 5lbs, iirc.

If those things are 5lbs, I'll eat my old PHB.

>>91768692
>5'2"

I don't get it. She gets into fights with grown men and wins? Am I missing something here? Does she get possessed by the spirit of Bruce Lee whenever she gets into a fight?

>>91768692
There is no way to get that massive cleavage shot in panels 2-5 by the way she's shown to be positioned in panels 1 and 6.

HACK

>>91769823
he got so excited about drawing tits that he ignored the last panel and poses and anything else that got in the way

>>91768692

>>91769089
>When were Amber and Amazi-Girl ever at odds with each other, outside of AG befriending Sal and that bothering Amber? They seem to work together really well, with AG taking over when Amber can't handle stuff. Also, this is all insane bullshit.
Pretty much this. I can't think of a time relating to anything other than Sal that they are at odds with each other.

Amber broke up with Danny, and she's trying to pretend it was Amazi-Girl. This is especially apparent when you think about how she's all like "You're dating Amazi-Girl, winkwink, nudgenudge, and she has something planned for you later, teehehehehe."

She also was panicky when dealing with Sal, so she put on her mask as a coping mechanism, right? That's not much different than hugging a pillow when you're stressed. You don't get to give your alter (other personalities, that is) permission to take over. They do it of their own volition, and they certainly don't only show up when you wear a mask and visibly show yourself to be someone else.

Amber is furthering her own delusions of Amazi-Girl being a separate person. If things continue to progress like this, she might actually develop a separate personality for Amazi-Girl.

She is progressively separating herself from Amazi-Girl. Peter Parker is Spider-Man, right? He doesn't stop being Peter when he's in costume. He goes to protect people he cares about. If Spider-Man were a separate entity, he wouldn't put as much thought toward people like Gwen or Mary-Jane.

(To be continued in one more post. I'm keeping it brief tonight. For now, at least.)

>>91768692
I think I get what Willis is trying to do. He's trying to make Amber the worst character in this story because of how she is the most fuckable in the cast/the one readers wanna stick their dick into the most. Just to fullfill his spite quota.

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>>91769785
She's a fuckin' psychotic fat midget ninja, yo.

Anyone have the edit of this strip where she shits herself?

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>>91768692
Amber/Amazi-Girl is her own best friend and OTP.

>>91769032
Girlanon was pretty spot on about explaining the differences between role playing and DID that I actually read every single goddamn post.

Of course if this were posted on the main website or even the Patreon, Girlanon would've been blasted apart because of "reasons" or "That's just your experiences." like Willis himself has fucking DID or something.

>>91770077
>>91768692
Oftentimes, people don't even know that they have alters. And people generally don't communicate with their alters, because only one can be at the controls at a time.

Amber has NO memory loss at all. If you look up the symptoms and requirements for the DSM, she doesn't have ANY of the dang things on the list.

Amber is full of crap, and she's using Amazi-Girl as an excuse to avoid dealing with her problems. This is especially evident when she throws her voice to get rid of Sal.

If Amber and Amazi-Girl were separate entities, then how would Amber know how to do the Amazi-Girl voice, much less throw it as well? Or is it just that Amazi-Girl took over for like 10 seconds to do it?

Bullcrap. All of it. It takes a minute or so to switch back and forth, and there are usually specific things that happen when the swap happens, such as your head dropping down or your posture changing. You don't get to choose.

>>91770180
>>91770199
Willis' take on DID kind of reminds me of Two-Face from Batman Forever, where Tommy Lee Jones flips the coin to determine his next action, and then keeps flipping the coin until he gets the result he wants.

>>91770199

Someone posted critiques of Willis' depiction of DID that were similar to yours (possibly someone from this thread?) and Cerb dismissed them, saying this:
>And yeah, the field on DID is a bit of a mess. A lot of doctors who study it only want to study the “sexy” cases of full disassociation resulting from childhood trauma and so there’s a complete paucity of resources or information for folks like me who have spent most of their lives fairly well integrated.

>And there’s a lot of cultural garbage, from Hollywood, but also from the Satanic Panic fucks who tried to use fake cases of “repressed memories” and child alters to fuel their various conspiracy theories.

>But yeah, I’ve had DID since I was 5, and that’s been confirmed by at least 4 therapists, not that their say-so differently would have changed my life experiences. I’m pretty well acquainted with how it works at least for me and I’ve talked to a lot of other folks where I can about their DID experiences because that’s my general approach with all my minority experiences as many of them have a complete dearth of trustworthy academic research (like, the states of ace and trans research are an absolute disaster and most of the halfway decent ones just focus on bodies of research and bundling of life experiences already done by the communities themselves).

So is she lying to herself, or does she just have really shitty doctors?

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>>91770199
Did you check with Cerberus to make sure that what you're saing is okay, Girlanon?

Clearly she's the only one ever who can speak with any authority on the matter, as these comments display.

Ignore If It Bleeds. He's a repeat free-thinker, and will be handled shortly, just like before.

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Thought I'd compile and post the downfall of this relationship for context.

Note that when glasses girl has the blush, she's Amber, when she doesn't, she's Amazi-Girl. Although, even that doesn't hold up in the last compilation.

>>91770077
Hey Girlanon, here's something.>>91770113

If Amber and Amazi-Girl are meant to be separate, why the fuck is Amber the one capable of and exerting herself physically like this? Amazi-Girl is the only one who should have/need this gymnastic prowess. Granted, I've never read more than the past year or so of these threads because fuck giving Willis money, so I don't know her exact backstory. Even so, this fundamentally breaks that distinction between the two identities if Amber can just do the stuff Amazi-Girl can as well, doesn't it?

Also sorry if you've had a rough week. Ganbatte, nigga.

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>>91770541
First encounter after the break up.

>>91770458
>Check the tags
Oh, that's fucking bullshit. Show don't tell, goddamn it.

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>>91770649
And their last meetup before this current one. In the last strip, despite the text being in AG voice, it's still Amber.

>>91770541
The way this shit unfolded drives me up a fucking wall. Like one of those cliche misunderstanding situations.

>>91770649
>a computers class in a lecture hall
Bullshit bullshit bullshit bullshit bullshit

>>91770738
This right here is when it should be obvious that Amber doesn't have DID, you don't "bleed out" into something that's supposed to be an entirely different person. For fucks sake that's supposed the opposite of what you want to say if you have DID, because if one of your alters commits a crime, how the fuck are you supposed to say it wasn't you, when you admit both of you blend together at times.

Willis needs to stop listening to every goddamn thing Cerberus says just because his comic is therapy for her.

>>91769519
>Nah, you don't have to do anything. You've said enough in these threads as it is; you deserve a break. Sorry to hear your week has been rough.
Thank you! I've said my piece for the moment, so I'll try not to push myself on it. You are officially nicer than most of the people I know.

On Thursday, I get to find out more about what's going on with my back. Just found out this week that my scoliosis (I was told it was "a little bit of scoliosis" previously, so I thought it was just a bit of a hunch in my back) is causing degenerative disc disease. It explains a lot as it is, so I'm really ready to find out what my treatment options are.

So I have sciatica crap going on, arthritis, and Fibromyalgia in addition to this BS.

To say nothing of my grandfather's spinal fusion surgery, which got him so disoriented that he ripped all his IVs out and called my grandmother at 1:30 AM to find out where he was.

Boyfriend also got slightly rear-ended (because the lady behind him is who actually got hit) this week.

Plus, like depression and crap like that.

>>91770180
Aww, thanks! It is really awesome to see that people are reading my posts and appreciating them. I'm considering cataloging them into a doc or something like that. I honestly think that if I posted about it, Willis would drastically change Amber's stuff to match the DSM's requirements for DID. And yes, I would most likely get called an idiot and whatnot.

>>91770439
Exactly!

>>91770446
>So is she lying to herself, or does she just have really shitty doctors?
It's possible she knows what to say to them to get a diagnosis. I haven't read much of her experiences, only what's been said secondhand here.

>>91770458
Barf. If anyone wants to show her the DSM requirements, go for it.

>>91770577
It depends on when she learned this stuff. (see next post. what am I getting myself into tonight?)

>>91771015

Oh, Cerb's seen the requirements, all right. She doesn't exactly care for them:

>...non-integrated DID is the sexiest to study and so that’s where the majority of clinical attention gets paid. Because once we’re integrated we’re “normal” in the eyes of too much of the establishment.

>What matters most is the alters for the diagnosis and for it to create issues that would not otherwise occur without the condition. Memory issues are a sign of poor or absent integration, often because the person with it is actively fighting one of their alters and is trying to cut it out.

>It used to be a much more common part of DID, because old protocols were awful and about trying to “remove” the alters, which meant alters fought back and hid to avoid being attacked which means non-shared memories (memory gaps) and independent actions (what gets depicted in movies and TV, because it’s so visually striking).

>I’ve been more or less integrated since I was 5. I’ve fucked with that and paid the price for it, but it’s meant lacking much in the way of gaps that I can discern, because everyone’s memory pools are more or less shared.

>And the only times an alter demanded unilateral and independent action and did so, I was terrifyingly aware and present during it.

>I have DID, that’s been confirmed by at least 4 different therapists and psychiatrists (current therapist, current psychiatrist, former temporary therapist, and previous long-term therapist). It’s an official part of my psychological diagnosis and my life experiences are such that quite a number of events that happened in my life would not have happened if I wasn’t DID.

>You may have been told in school that memory issues are “required”. But they’re not. The alters are required. Everything else is for determining severity and recommended treatment protocol.

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>>91771015
>I honestly think that if I posted about it, Willis would drastically change Amber's stuff to match the DSM's requirements for DID.

Well you got a whole lot more faith in the guy than we do.

>>91770577
If she learned it as Amber and THEN the alleged split happened, it would be semi-likely she would have the same knowledge. This is supposing that Amazi-Girl is there to support Amber and shield her.

Her physical body doesn't change when she swaps to Amazi-Girl, so if they are able to pay attention to each other, then *maybe* the other one could learn it. She has the muscle structure to do it as one of them, so she's theoretically capable of it.

Likelihood of them both being able to do it flawlessly? Pretty slim, in my opinion.

And thanks for the kind thoughts! I appreciate all of you so much.

>>91770652
As a writer, YES, THIS.

>>91770968
Also, this. The waters are not muddy, and the lines are clear. Imagine having two separate people inhabiting one body. If Person B stabs a guy, then Person A has plausible deniability, because it wasn't their choice. It was their body, not their mind.

>>91770577
Due to the way the brain works, learned skills and muscle memory persist even if conscious knowledge of those skills does not.

>>91770446
You'd think that Cerb would immediately pick up on the vast amount of Hollywood bullshit Willis uses with Amber/Amazi-Girl.

As for the doctor thing, it's not uncommon for people to see multiple therapists before finding one they feel comfortable with, but, IMO, Cerb seems like the kind of person who would go diagnosis and treatment shopping.

>>91771261
In part, she is theoretically correct. But she's wrong that she's integrated. If you integrate the alters, then you go back to being one person. That's how integration works.

Look at segregation:
One school for white kids, and one school for black kids. This is segregated schooling. There are two schools.

When white kids and black kids went to the same schools, it was integrated schooling. There is one school.

Integration is when you push everybody back into one person. Has nothing to do with whether you can communicate with them or not.

She got DID when she was 5, and she's been integrated since then? Um, then she's not got DID, probably? Based on that statement, my skeptical glasses are on. Pretty sure she has imaginary friends. That's probably mean, but I don't care right now.

>>91771264
If there's one thing Willis wants, it's to be right all the time, forever.

>>91771306
But Amber would still have to attempt it before muscle memory would kick in. This isn't a reflex thing, she's clearly attempting it. If Amber is Amber why the hell is she flipping around?

>>91771306
>Cerb seems like the kind of person who would go diagnosis and treatment shopping.

That's putting it mildly. As was quoted here >>91770446 "at least" four therapists diagnosed her with DID. Cerb shopped around so much, and was told things she didn't like so often, she can't even remember how many told her something she agreed with.

And that's assuming you even believe a word that comes out of her keyboard, which I don't.

>>91771261
So, because Cerb has a specific way of dealing with her Alters, that means that everyone else dealing with it differently than her is the oddity, and she's the norm.

Do you think she actively tries to avoid other people with her problems because she knows how fucking much she differs from everyone?

>>91771581
>Do you think she actively tries to avoid other people with her problems because she knows how fucking much she differs from everyone?

Subconsciously? Almost certainly.

On purpose? Maybe.

And yes, just like Willis, if you don't match their experiences, you're wrong.

>>91771261

This one's brain couldn't be more scrambled if they put a bullet through it, and they probably should.

>>91771561
I just realized that's how racists or anti-homo people act. They go around spouting that shit until someone in high regard or a professional agrees with them, and they use that as a case for their beliefs.

>>91771015
Jeeze, that's rough. I hope things go well for you in the end.

>>91771876
Pretty much. It's one of the classic fallacies, "appeal to authority": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority
>An argument from authority, also called an appeal to authority, is a form of logical and persuasive argument using expert opinion to defend the likelihood of the truth of the matter asserted. More precisely, it is a defeasible argument and a statistical syllogism taking this form:

>X is an expert on subject Y,
>X says A. A is within subject Y.
>A is very likely true as it is in the expert's field.

>>91771261
So Dissociative is the optional fucking part of DID, then? I mean, ADHD at least has AD/H be an either/both situation, but to completely disregard the fucking classification of the disorder because they don't fit the mold for it? Fuck no. The shoe doesn't fit, it ain't Cinderella.

>>91768692
You know what I hate more than the whole DID thing? No more than a week or two ago, Amber was having panic attacks at the very sight of Sal. One superhero team-up later and they're cool enough for Amber to prank her. That is not *nearly* enough time to undo a decade's worth of emotional baggage (for reference, I have a friend who had a bad experience with police and is still afraid of law enforcement AFTER therapy), and even if it was, Willis didn't give it nearly enough screentime for me, as a reader and someone who's familiar with mental bullshit, to believe that.

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>>91770458
>Secondly, no, it was Amazi-Girl who dumped Danny. Check the tags.
Amber herself notes that this isn't precisely the case in >>91770738. So the tags. which match the blush convention, might not even be accurate.

The breakup really doesn't holdup to scrutiny. Amazi-Girl was presented as wanting to get revenge on Sal from the beginning of the strip when she was talking to Ethan in his room. By the time they met up, that got changed into this idea that AG was following Sal around to somehow protect her from what Amber might do, since Amber is a violent monster but Amazi-Girl is all about justice.

So... why would Amazi-Girl dump Danny because he talked to Sal? In her mind, Amber should be the bad guy, not Sal. Of course, it doesn't make sense that way. Amazi-Girl must've actually dumped Danny because she did really hate Sal's guts as expressed by her words and actions since the start of the comic (just look at her angry reaction to Danny interacting with her in >>91770541. And Amber confirms that's AG in strip 3 of >>91770738). And that "I was protecting you" bullshit was just a weird cop-out so Amazi-Girl could continue to be this paragon within the context of the strip, rather than giving her an interesting and understandable vice.

So much of this comic is incredibly unsatisfying. Like ridiculously so.

>>91771973
Everyday more people here say that Cerb is just lying about all the shit she deals with, but I honestly wonder if it's just one of her "Alters" and she tells those stories about how she helps homeless gay kids .

Or what if she does have DID, but one of her identities has fake DID?

>>91772091
Occam's Razor, man. The simplest explanation is that she has some other mental issue that causes her to either misinterpret events or lie compulsively. Or she's some sort of troll who's taken things way, way too far.

>>91772066
I'm just waiting for the day when Willis decides that since Amber and Amazi-Girl are different people, they can date different people. Like imagine Danny walking around campus and he sees Amber totally stickin' her tongue down some dudes throat.

>>91772241
I'm just glad we don't have anyone mean or smart enough to dox her. Cause if she's as suicidal as she claims that'd be the end of her.

>>91772066
I feel like Willis has been trying to set up this twist that Amber is the "evil" personality and Amazi-Girl is the stable personality, but it fails to make sense no matter how you try to look at it.

Like, sure, it's usually the civilian identity that errs on the side of caution and the heroic identity that acts more impulsively. Sure, switch that around and make the civilian identity impulsive and the hero more wary of danger. That's fine.
Sure, it's a cliche that the heroic identity does as a vigilante what a civilian identity can't do as a person. Feel free to switch it up that way.

But I just can't decode what's supposed to be going on. I dunno if I'm overthinking it or if I'm just trying to figure out what the fuck is supposed to be happening.

Like, it's hard to believe that Amber as Amber is such a danger to Sal when her reaction tends to be either >>91740762, >>91740782, or >>91740863. We haven't seen Amber try attacking Sal unprovoked at all; it's always been in the guise of Amazi-Girl. If anything, Amber should be the one protecting Sal from Amazi-Girl.

>>91772287
I don't support doing that to any of Willis's fans. They're as much captives of his bullshit as we are, though we're bound by outrage while they're bound by complacency. Willis is at fault because he's feeding them ground-up chicken feet when he knows they could be eating prime rib if he really put his mind to it.

>>91772091

Honestly the simple fact is the more I read or know anything about Cerberus the more I think they need to be locked up for their own good.

Like it's a wonder they manage to get their clothes on and leave the house, much less manage to make a living or something. Everything I see points to a mind patched together with cheap tape and staples, one "misgendering" away from shooting up someplace.

>>91771511
The logical answer is that Amber took gymnastics as a child, considering that the Amazi-Girl alter probably wouldn't have formed until after Sal robbed the store. The other answer is would be that Amazi-Girl started gymnastics training then Amber picked it up thinking she was naturally talented at it.

>>91771495
>>91771581
There is a general dearth of longitudinal studies on DID and the efficacy of alter integration. This is further compounded by extreme comorbidity of DID with other disorders. Cerb also seems to not understand that the point of psychological treatment isn't to "cure" or make "normal," it's to bring the patient into a functional state that experiences a minimum of distress and impairment from their conditions.

>>91771561
I believe that with Cerb sincerity doesn't mean the truth.

>>91772810
You could say the same about some of the weirdoes on /co/. People manage.

>>91772915

> Cerb also seems to not understand that the point of psychological treatment isn't to "cure" or make "normal,"

The very idea or concept of "normal" is likely considered offensive to Cerberus because it acknowledges the presence of abnormality.

>>91772790
>when he knows they could be eating prime rib if he really put his mind to it.
Hell, Willis himself could be serving that prime rib. I can't deny that the complexity of the setup and details to this are impressive, and his ability to write several different characters that are distinguishable and have such varying objectives and downfalls, is still damn impressive too. He's got an eye for drama but his biases make it impossible for any real nuance, and his insistence on avoiding conflict for Becky kneecaps his writing potential. When given the choice between writing the calm or the storm, most people want to read the storm.

>>91773014
I've seen individual strips from the Walkyverse that I've liked, and Shortpacked wasn't entirely shit (the bit with Leslie and the Head Alien is actually legitimately good). Willis has some fucking talent, but if he doesn't put in the effort, then it's worthless.

>>91771876
>>91771965
I think, rather than an appeal to authority, more accurately it's what people on Wikipedia call "Forum shopping" (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Consensus#FORUMSHOP), where you just keep asking different authorities until one agrees with you. Basically going to dad when mom tells you you can't have something.

>>91772986
The concept of "normal" is something to be avoided within the psychological medical field. At the most basic level there is functional and non-functional, "normal" is usually seen as an idealized state that is ultimately an unreachable source of stress for the patient as it implies perfection of the mental state. You'll find it used as a shorthand or with patients who have conditions that features a deviation from a baseline state, like episodic depression, but it's mostly avoided because the word has too much baggage associated with it within the clinical context.

>>91772091
That's some next level rabbit hole shit right there.

>>91772252
Amber has forbidden tryst with the masked vigilante Amazi-Girl, but little does she know that Amazi-Girl has her eyes on Sal.

>>91773477
>At the most basic level there is functional and non-functional, "normal" is usually seen as an idealized state that is ultimately an unreachable source of stress for the patient as it implies perfection of the mental state

This. I used to desperately want to be 'normal' and not constantly plagued with shitty mood issues. Things got a bit better after I gave up on being normal and settled for getting to classes 2 out of 3 times.

I feel like the internet has had a really bad effect on hypochondriacs. Or maybe reverse hypochondriacs who not just adopt disabilities but twist them into badges of honour?

>>91773255
While it's not really the best story, the meta stuff with Leslie's universe hopping and the drama tag is probably his best work as a creator.

>>91774140
That was actually kind of interesting to me as well. Looking back, it's definitely better than a lot of his other recent stuff.

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>>91773255
>>91774140
I was on the edge of my chair every midnight back in the final arc of It's Walky!. Say what you will if you didn't read it back then, but it was one of the better things going in the webcomic world at the time. Now I just come to watch the next frame of the slow-motion train wreck that's been happening for over six years.

I've never really gone back and re-read it all, because I was young, and I'm sure rose-colored glasses and all that, but it's why I don't think I'll ever be able to get off this ride until the very end.

>>91743023
The costume gives him the confidence to be the ventriloquist he always wanted to be.

>>91769444
>>91769628

NEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEERDS!

Anyone want to make predictions about future arcs?

We have plenty of time.

>>91768692
>That random floating "Oh" in the last panel

Spooky.

>>91772066
Also, in the case that the hate for Sal that both identities shared got eliminated from Amazi-Girl because it is bad, in theory that should manifest even strongly in Amber, right? I mean, it's not like emotions are conserved as a rule, but narratively, wouldn't that be way more interesting?

Amber hates Sal with a (partially misguided) passion, so much so that she creates an alter-ego that can be better than her.Amber runs into Sal and Amazi-Girl is how she can get back at her. But instead of fighting to the death, Amazi-Girl and Sal get along. Leading up to Amazi-Girl becoming Sal's friend. It seems like the obvious by-product of that would be Amber becoming bitter about that, and having more violent outbursts when she encounters Sal, rather than being able to retreat to Amazi-Girl via that shared hate.

Instead we're getting this weird slow slide into amicability without ever dealing with any of the issues at the core. I don't think Amber has ever realized that it's more her dad's constant abuse that fucked her up more than Sal's attack, for example.

>>91780280
Danny and Ethan hook up but have to keep it hidden from Amber, who tries to hook up Ethan with someone else.

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>>91780285

>>91782252
>Instead we're getting this weird slow slide into amicability without ever dealing with any of the issues at the core. I don't think Amber has ever realized that it's more her dad's constant abuse that fucked her up more than Sal's attack, for example.
The closest we've gotten to that is when Mike pointed out that Amber is more like her father than she wants to admit.

>>91784418
That seems incredibly likely.

>>91780280
Joyce meets one of Willis's new characters (assuming he makes men eventually) and goes on a date with him. Turns out he's bi, and Joyce is conflicted about this for some reason.

>>91786944
Amber trying to find a boyfriend for Ethan also allows him to reuse Ethan's boyfriend from Shortpacked!.

I can honestly see the Joyce thing working as a story if you replace bisexual with transman.

>>91787222
Would be interesting to see that combined with Jocelyne outing herself to Joyce.

>>91770180
accuse them of "performative ally-ship" and "de-amplifying" you.

>>91770738
Wait, wait, wait. She put on the mask one time to avoid a panic attack about Sal.

This time (first strip), she takes off her mask to suddenly have a panic attack about Sal. Wouldn't it make wayyyy more sense to stay as Amazi-Girl when she's freaking out? After all, she used it as a coping mechanism before.

>>91770790
At my university the intro to programming class is in a lecture hall

>>91740762
This triggers me.. she stabbed someone, and SHE is the one with PTSD? what the shit?

>>91788414
>Wait, wait, wait. She put on the mask one time to avoid a panic attack about Sal.
To add to your point, she's done this lots of times, actually. >>91740805, >>91740863 leads into it (http://www.dumbingofage.com/comics/2013-12-25-change.png), >>91740762 is followed by her as Amazi-Girl talking to Ethan (http://www.dumbingofage.com/comics-archive/2014-04-13-sheshere.png) and in >>91770541 she goes from Amber to Amazi-Girl in the 2nd strip 2nd panel to be able to deal with Danny. So it's a heavily established trend that has broken down for seemingly no reason.

Like you said, it makes no sense.

>>91789141
She was in a store robbery where he best friend got taken hostage and her abusive dad called her worthless for not being able to protect her friend so she had an autistic fit and stabbed Sal. I'll give Amber's trauma to willis as decent.

What I won't give is how her autism has been since then. She should at least have said something to her or someone about it by now and had them talk to Sal about it. Ethan was the real victim and he doesn't give a shit about Sal.

>>91789141
It would make more sense if it was something like overwhelming guilt or something that she did something pretty terrible like that to someone.

>>91789590
Part of me wonders how Sal doesn't recognize her as the one who did it. I'm sure you don't easily forget a person who puts a knife through your friggen hand.

>>91789590
She probably had to keep mum about it because shitty dad and conditioned-to-horror mom (along with 'keeping secrets about how shit you're feeling' being standard protocol when you live in an abusive home), and when her family life finally got better, she was already too used to keeping secrets that she never stopped.

>>91789609
Sal did threaten to fucking cut Ethan, the only person who was willing to pay attention to her and not be shitty about it.

>>91786944
>The closest we've gotten to that is when Mike pointed out that Amber is more like her father than she wants to admit.
I know, right!? And this was so long ago in the timeline of the strip. It's part of why this shit is so annoying with AG dropping the grudge because of some dog whistle racism by other people.

She has these issues that we know are there and the main cause of her issues, and the confrontation with Sal should lead to an epiphany. But the way he writes it, that epiphany seems like it'll never happen. It feels like Sal and Amber will somehow become good friends, but she'll keep having panic attacks with out ever dealing with anything.

It's why I wished Ethan was still in the cube when Sal showed up, that would be a really simple solution if he suddenly saw Amber freaking out and put everything together. Then we could at least get everything on the table. It's so frustrating.

>>91782252
Amber nearly beat her dad to death with her bare hands and that wasn't enough to resolve her Dad Issues.

>>91790210
There's a difference between confronting your issues and confronting them properly. Most psychologists wouldn't recommend beating the shit out of your abuser as a valid method.

You know what makes this Amber shit frustrating? We are viewing this through the 4th wall and aren't able to tell he she's retarded. If this was a person in real life and they had these issues but kept being retarded, it would drive us crazy...

Except in that would I'd also try to butt fuck Amber. Willis should draw Amber being butt fucked. My whole point is I need to butt fuck Amber.

>>91790878
You got issues, man

>>91791411

On a certain level I can see where he's coming from

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>>91792453
Hard to believe it took him THIS long.

God I wish there was a way to corner him in public on the DID thing.

>>91793291
Well, you could always spend actual money to go to a con and see him.

>>91794642
That's becoming increasingly difficult, because he's almost entirely stopped going to cons since he got kids.

>>91792453
I wonder if he actually acknowledge his fuck up to all the readers or he just silently sneaked in that fix.

>>91780280
>something happens to mary
so far there hasn't actually been any consequences to her blackmailing other than a punch from billie

there will never be an arc where anyone learns that you shouldn't assault someone you don't like

>>91795387
Becky will show her up with how smart she suddenly is now.

>>91794984
He's only going to one convention this year, and I think that was last month.

>>91795213
Ask Patreanon.

>>91795387
That's because violence is the best way to respond to somebody you don't like. I'm sure if you asked Willis (if you find him) he would say that punching Nazis simply for existing is morally and ethically right.

>>91796262
>Ask Patreanon

Well if he shows up sometime before midnight I would hope he could answer that then....

>>91770541
So Amaziber, it's fine when she's verbally and mentally abusive, and physically threatening and violent, cause she's a _girl_, ain't it? no, she's a hero, lets all cheer her, never mind that she is a perfect example of the exact kind of two-faced, abusive, gaslighting bastard that the comments claim deserves no second chances, no benefit of the doubt, nothing. and unlike Armstrong(I've already forgotten his name) or any of the other villains, we've SEEN it. we've SEEN her switch from violent and spiteful to her close relations when they attempt to go against her in any way, to quiet and mousy when they obey her commandments perfectly. We've SEEN her use physical and verbal violence to control others, and she's still a "Hero". I don't even understand how the comment's section ISN'T calling for blood at this point.

The sad part is Amber is literally /ourgirl/ because she is both THICC and a nerd (even is she is a little weird at times). But the whole duel personalty thing kinda takes a shit on her appeal.

>>91796262
>>punching nazis simply for existing is morally and ethically right

But it is.

If we punched more bigots, there would be less of them.

>>91797729
I think that would just make them hate people more.

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>>91797729
>turning people into martyrs, making then defensive, making them feel that people really are out to get them will change their minds

Ha! Good one.

>>91797729

Yes, because when you get punched, your first and only thought is to do absolutely nothing about it. No thoughts of revenge or rebuttal whatsoever. That's how it works.

>>91797729
>If we punched more bigots, there would be less of them.

Yeah, that's working on great so far.

Who's president again?

>>91797729
On the one hand, there is nothing more satisfying than absolutely ruining an asshole's shit. On the other hand, the audience that /pol/ and Breibart recruits from can't tell 'they got punched because they were being dicks' apart from 'they got punched because they're martyrs for the cause', so resorting to physical violence is, in the current climate, a bad idea. It's easier to make them look weak by picking apart their arguments.

>>91780280
We meet someones parents and their abusive.
1:1 odds.

>>91798579
>>91798882
Trump is the result of not punching enough bigots. If shitheels want to be martyrs, let them. They'll get tired of it soon enough. We're already winning the idelogical battle. The only new generation of reactionary tools are from the rural wastelands, and they keep losing themselves to meth in their dying towns. Cities are growing.

>>91799132

Oh, well, if we're going to win anyway, then what's the fucking point of getting violent in the first place? I mean, unless you're just desperate to pick a fight and are looking for any half-formed rationalization to convince yourself it's not a complete waste of time.

>>91799132
Punching more anyone-you-disagree-with-is-a-Nazis would have been a great way to get a civil war going between people who have panic attacks when they smell gunpowder and the largest military body in the world, which is predominantly conservative, as well as millions of crackpot militia rednecks with more guns than IQ points. You can see with the violence in Berkeley and in some other places that the ideology war is already happening; what you're suggesting would have just made it happen sooner.

>>91799132

Antifa got beat back in fucking Berkley.

BERKLEY.

If I were a betting man all my money would go on /pol/ winning.

>>91738656
>Game keeps giving her blue shells, but she ain't usin' 'em

You only get the blue shell if you're in last place, or close to it. Wasn't Amber supposed to be a really good gamer? Is this supposed to be a metaphor or something?

>>91799566
That's her way of trying to be chummy with Sal by letting her win.

>>91799251
>>91799326
The sooner it starts the sooner it ends and the safety of marginalized groups can be secured. The military is sworn to protect the people and uphold the constitution- many of them are more liberal than you think.
>>91799377
They bussed in hicks from out of Berkeley. Thats a minor win forthem but they won't win the war.

>>91799695

Yeah, that's what they said about the first Civil War - it'll be over in a month. How'd that turn out for them?

Personally, I'm not going to get involved in all of this politics guff. All I know is that apparently the antifa are training themselves with live weaponry and artillery. That is, gun training.

>>91799566
It might just be a two-player race somehow.

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>>91799132
>not puching enough bigots
Do you honestly believe that punching a nazi would make them change their beliefs? What if a nazi punched you? Would your beliefs change?
>rural wastelands
>meth
>dying towns
This reads like thinly veiled disgust for the lower class. It's not like small towns choose to be poor.
You literally have the same beliefs of those you claim to hate.

>>91799695
Look, if it comes to war, then I'll be fighting, I assure you, but I'm not going to resort to outright violent rebellion unless I have to. Civil war is kind of shitty to go through, so better to not do that if we can avoid it.

>>91799854
>It might just be a two-player race somehow.
Spiny shell's only obtainable from 4th-7th place in mario cart DS. It wouldn't show up in a 2 player race. Amber has to be doing worse than Sal plus 3 AIs, which is just silly.

>>91797729

Oh, you're back.

Rebuttal: If more parents beat their mentally ill kids, they'd shut the fuck up and keep their insanity shut up where it should be in their heads.

>>91770113
I still can't get over Wilis' inability to render movement in a coherent manner, especially with how he seems to give Amber such impossible movements. See also that one Patron-exclusive strip.

>>91799917
It might be AIs, then.
I assume the idea is that Amber's intentionally losing, though when you think about it there's no real reason for her to intentionally be losing other than to be nice about it.

>>91799695

>they won't win the war

"Slit my wrists because someone thinks having a dick makes me male" vs "Shooting guns is literally the most fun thing ever invented"

I hope you don't gamble

>>91799959
>walks into an actual discussion about the pros and cons of violence against bigotry
>"lol, crazy kids should be beaten for being crazy"

Thanks for contributing to this discussion with such a salient point.

>>91799996
>I assume the idea is that Amber's intentionally losing, though when you think about it there's no real reason for her to intentionally be losing other than to be nice about it.
I think it's a ham-fisted metaphor that's just too stupid for us to understand. She's obviously trying to win here: >>91738851, even resorting to dirty tricks.

All moral posturing aside, punching Nazis is a bad idea simply because it doesn't work. There was plenty of violent backlash against the Nazis the first time they showed up. Hell, they deliberately provoked violence. They specifically were banking on lefties getting rowdy and violent, because that way they could form the SA as private security for party officials, which would eventually expand into becoming the paramilitary wing of the Nazi Party. By the time the SA was carrying out targeted assassinations of party enemies, street fighting and political violence had become so normal that no one seemed to notice or care.

And history is literally repeating itself: The right is becoming organized and militant. Kyle Chapman and Gavin McInnes are organizing a literal militia and now Richard Spencer has his crew vis-a-vis newfound internet celebrity Nathan Damigo. The right is mobilizing and organizing for violence, and thanks to having a well-oiled digital machine as well as the ability to cooperate with law enforcement and the state, they're far more effective at it than the left.

History is repeating itself and you idiots are too drunk on your own self-righteousness to see your part in it. You're no different than Willis, anon. You're too lost in your own romantic delusions of heroism to understand the consequences of your actions.

>>91800068

This was targeted at >>91797729 by the way, I forgot to quote them.

>>91800068
I honestly think >>91797729 might have been false-flagging. As someone on the left, I've heard enough arguing about the virtues of violent defense to know why outright violence against the right is a bad idea, and that's with me actively trying to avoid political arguments half the time.

>>91800054
The trick was to get Sal away from her, but yeah, I forgot about that.
And that is a strip from a day or two ago. And I already forgot about it.

I dunno what the metaphor is if there's supposed to be one. Amber should be exploiting every turn and shortcut in the game, not holding back just to make Sal feel better.

>>91800038

>an actual discussion about the pros and cons of violence against bigotry

Mhm. This same idiot's been here before spouting his nonsense. There's no discussion to be had.

>>91800204

Yeah but I've seen plenty of people who still just don't get it, especially major talking heads. Hell, over on leddit, the admins of r/anarchism are making "BASH THE FASH" their hill to die on.

>>91798453

Hey, at least *I'D* feel good.

And if they refuse to change, hey no problem! It's just more justification to keep on beating their ass. Win / win scenario for ME.

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>>91800290

That's dumb, but I can respect it. Still wouldn't want you in my union of egoists though.

>>91800220
Discussion's always good. Back when the anti-trans troll hung around here, I'd argue him up because disassembling his shitty arguments was both satisfying and gets the point across for anyone here who doesn't know enough about the topic to have an informed opinion.

>>91799132

We do like to dehumanize those we disaggree with, don't we? Makes it so much easier to blindly hate.

>>91799893
It's not about making them change their views. Its about showing that we won't tollerate them. We didn't tolerate them in WWII,no reason to tolerate them now. I can understand qualms about engaging them violently though, but its the only language they understand. Since 45 we've tried to reeducate and convince but the fact is without the denazification programs we put in place in Germany, it wouldn't be anywhere as near as liberal as it is today. We need to denazify America.
>>91800204
Avoiding political arguements won't help at risk individuals, but like I said, I can understand your view.

>>91800425

So, who are you going to murder first, then?

Or is this just all talk to make yourself feel important and heroic and you're actually not going to do shit even if violence DOES break out?

>>91800425
Fair. I'm all for being 100% hard on nazis and anyone who resembles them. I just think that we need to be smart about it.

>>91800425

I'd rather not tolerate either crazy lefties nor crazy rightwings.

>>91800475
What makes you think I don't participate with Antifa?

>>91800068

>>Oh noes! The world is gonna end because Trump was made President!

>>91800577

I didn't say participate, I said murder. You know. Because we need to get rid of the Nazis and all.

>>91800608
I don't know about the world ending, but I'm not sure he's not going to start WW3.

>>91800068

>>Implying violence only occurs with the right.

Can I buy you some coffee? I know this great place in Washington DC

>>91800610
If I said that I had or was planning too, you'd say I was an edgelord. If I didn't, you'd call me a hypocrite. I'm obviously not going to change your mind. Now you'll say something along those lines anyways, because there isn't anything I can do to prove otherwise.

>>91800608

That's not my point. I voted for Trump, anon. If the world ends it won't be because of him, it'll be because civil discourse has been entirely eroded and peaceful coexistence between left and right is impossible. Radicalization is bad, not because non-centrist ideas are bad, but because polarization makes violence inevitable. No one wins in a second civil war.

>>91800719

I didn't say it did. Actually, all throughout the 70's, right-wing terrorism was nonexistent, but left-wing terrorism was constant. Status 451 has a great article about it. But history shows that when it comes to organized political violence, the Right is way, WAY better at it. They just don't swing first.

>>91800754

I'm not going to call you an edgelord or hypocrite.

You're just kinda retarded.

>>91800781
Why did you vote for trump?
Also, the right swings first as often as the left.

>>91800754

If you actually have the courage in your convictions to say you're straight-up going to murder people in the name of antifa and you're not just blowing smoke, I can respect that. It's a really fucking dumb idea and is only going to make everything worse, but I can respect that.

I'm tired of seeing antifa dance around the subject without actually stating outright what they're planning to do. Do you want to murder someone, yes or no?

>>91800482

Huh huh huh... You said "hard on"

>>91800846
To protect marginalized groups from oppression and abuse it is acceptable to do so by any means necessary. To admit to planning on murdering someone would be stupid.

>>91800681

He's not, regardless what the biased media says.

>>91800917

"Any means necessary"? Really? So there's NO amount of death and destruction that would make you pause? NO point where you could look at yourself and say "This is not worth it"? You're free to do ANYTHING?

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>>91800482

Huh huh huh... You said "hard on"

>>91800917

Hello Cerberus

You're a man with a mutilated pseudo-vagina.

>>91800838

Kind of a long story, but in 2013 I was an apprentice machinist for a really small mom-and-pop metalworking shop. We had this great contract to make hydrogen purifiers for a company in Massachusetts, and it was keeping me employed. Then in early 2014 our contract got stolen out from under us by a larger company that not only employed illegal Chinese immigrants, but also had them working for less than minimum wage and working even when legally speaking, their plant was supposed to be closed. Without the contract, I got laid off, and ever since I've been bouncing around between jobs.

That being said, Pulse was what sealed the deal for me. That could have been me or my boyfriend or any of my friends in that bar. I'm sick and tired of the left making apologies for people who want to kill me just for existing. The left keeps telling me they want to protect me, but they refuse to even admit that wahabbis and salafis are a problem, and even if it comes up, they'll immediately go #notallmuslims. It's really showed me how little they care about me.

(Also I'm an Hoppe/Moldbugg AnCap at heart, so Trump bringing Peter Thiel on board was another big tide-turner. I loved his speech at the GOP convention.)

>>91800917

By that you mean, "anything that doesn't upset any of our other pet interest groups" of course. Funny how LGBT advocacy is less important than defending the honor of Saudi apologist Linda Sarsour.

>>91770541
>she got to you and she turned you AGAINST ME.
she is a perfect portrayal of schizophrenia.

>>91800917
Do you realize that neo-nazis are a pretty small minority? They're not popular among the general public, either.
Since they're discouraged from openly displaying their beliefs, wouldn't that make them an oppressed, marginalized group?

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>>91801006
No point.

>>91799566
How would she even know that the other person had a blue shell. It's not like the game tells you what the other player has?

>>91801393

I'm curious: What is your view of the USSR? Under Stalin's rule it was a highly authoritarian, nationalist, misogynist society that carried out (non-industrial) genocide against various targeted ethnic groups, most notoriously the ukranians.

Likewise, do you understand the difference between state-level military conflict and loosely-organized street fighting?

>>91801116
...and you have no ill feelings about Trump picking Pence as his VP? The man who believes that gay conversion isn't complete bullcrap?

>>91801651

I guess it's because I believe in transhumanism, I'm fine with sexual conversion therapy as long as it's safe, sane and consensual. People should be able to alter any aspect of themselves and transform themselves however they wish. Obviously conversion therapy in its current form falls short of that, but that's no reason to throw the baby out with the bathwater.

Likewise, I don't think Pence is a serious threat to the LGBT population. So far the Trump administration has shown no indication of wanting to overturn Obergefell v. Hodges. They're not litigating the bathroom wars case, but they're not going to defend NC, letting them reap the consequences of their nonsense all on their own.

>>91801489
While the USSR may have made some mistakes, and was not a perfect place, I'd hardly say that it carried out genocide. Ukraine was hit by a famine that's effects were amplified by the redistribution policies of the USSR, but that's not really genocide. Would you call the dust bowel effect that arose from capitalist farming practices in the Midwest genocide?

USSR may not have been perfect, but its much better than Nazi Germany. It was a unifying force against evil, and sometimes you have to impose authoritarian like rules to protect people.

>>91801928

The Holodomor was premeditated and intentionally carried out by Stalin to target the Ukranian population. This has been confirmed by multiple accredited sources. The Dust Bowl was not planned or enacted by the government or private entities, it was an entirely unintentional event. There is zero evidence whatsoever to suggest that it was intentional or that it targeted any ethnic or racial group. There is literally no way the two can possibly be compared in good conscience.

Well hopefully Patranon is on his way so we can get a break from the /pol/ posting....

>>91802261
sources like /pol/? I'm not saying that it wasn't terrible, and that the policies set forth by the USSR didn't exacerbate the situation, but it's hardly the thing that /pol/ likes to bitch about when crying about leftists.

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I hate her so much.

>>91802571
I swear, the comments section better be nothing but comments discussing how Amber's brought all her problems upon herself.

>>91802421

On the off chance that you're not trolling, the intentional nature of the Holodomor has been confirmed by multiple academic sources, even lefty ones.

>>91802594

But anon, disabled people have no agency, don't you know that nothing is ever their fault? They're basically like retarded children!

>>91802571
Let's continue not having anything happen.

>>91802571
Stop trying to make everyone hate Amber Willis! PLEASE! For Fucks sake......

>>91802571
Wtf Danny why you walking away?! Fucking tell her off for gods sake! Unless you clearly don't care anymore?

>>91802571
I'm surprised Willy didn't draw another weird cleavage shot

>>91802571

I honestly wonder how the Amber/Amazi-Girl storyline would have turned out if the comment section hadn't glommed onto the fucking DID thing. How sympathetic would she look if Willis admitted she's just playing superhero?

>>91802571
Why doesn't Amber just hole up in her dorm room? Dina can't possibly make that much noise.

>>91802571
Ok change the fucking scene now. Cause the longer this "Amber in denial" bullshit keeps going on the madder I'm getting.

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>>91802571
Honestly, as much as I don't like Amber, I don't think Danny should be talking to her if not to just tell her off for dumping him for showing concern. And maybe to rub in the hypocrisy of hanging out with Sal.

He shouldn't be trying to support her or check in on her because: 1) Fuck her, she dumped you, 2) She dumped you explicitly for trying care for her well-being and 3) Danny needs to look after himself and his own self-esteem. If I was in the strip I'd be telling him to have some fun, hang out with Sal, fuck Ethan, whatever, just do you my guy and stop worrying about your on-the-verge-of-imploding-under-the-pressures-of-her-neuroses ex.

>>91802983
With how much spite rules everything around the Dumbiverse, I'm surprised Danny hasn't just up and fucked Sal.

>>91803044
I'm surprised that Amazi-Girl hasn't fucked Sal yet, or at least gotten her a colorful costume and mask.

>>91802879
I was hoping that cover was shooped....

>>91802879
I wonder why people hate Becky...

>>91803137
Nope, motherfuckers paid for a physical book with that cover.

New Pinup out, Ruth and Billie again, once more exploiting, profiting from, and sexualizing a self-destructive, unhealthy relationship.

Not that I care, as long as it looks good.

And it won't.

>>91803044
I'm bummed that it would probably be framed that way. I think Danny and Sal have a nice dynamic. I only didn't put them banging in my list because Sal doesn't find him attractive.

Also, it totally sucks that he can't get with Ethan because that would be unfair to Amber, and now with this dumb team-up friendship thing it would be kinda the same if he hooked up with Sal. He was friends with her first, damn it!

>>91803378
And this one appears to have a bondage element, which I'm sure will go over well.

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Meanwhile, here's the front and back cover of Book Six of Dumbing of Age.

Honestly, I'm still a bit tempted to cave in and buy the PDFs being offered so that we at least have them. But again, there's always the next Kickstarter.

By the by the imgur with all the smut looks dead

>>91802571
Here's your chance to really grill her some more for her hypocritical bullshit and you walk away? Shame on you Danny (or should I say Willis?)......

>>91803440
>it totally sucks that he can't get with Ethan

No it doesn't. There's too much GLBT shit as it is.

>>91802983
Danny is clingy and has a lot of "nice guy" traits about him. Honestly if Willis just made it clear that he does this to himself as some form of validating masochism it'd make him far more interesting.

>>91804263
More gay! Go full Rebecca Sugar with it.

>>91803044
>Danny gets with Sal

What is this, 1997? How Roomies are we going?

>>91803543
God, I hate carla so much.

Concerning the stuff earlier the violence against the right makes me uncomfortable because I don't think it'll solve anything, but as a fag I know that if these people get legitimate power over me they'll slippery slope me into an early grave so I'd rather they be shut out of politics, but then that's un-democratic so I can't really support that, but then if I view them as un-democratic then I can justify it maybe etc etc.

It's just unpleasant all round that people can't get along.

Anyway with the comic, Amber is really really pushing the limits of tolerance to everyone and I wonder if Willis gives her a free pass because she looks like his wife?

>>91805294
Support for LGBT rights has been consistently shown to be increasing among youth across all political spectrum. It isn't exactly an ideal situation, but we're probably going to see anti-LGBT platforms start to disappear in the next few election cycles. Something else to consider is that most hate groups are thoroughly infiltrated by law enforcement to the point where if you start attacking them there is a not insignificant chance that you could be beating on an undercover cop or informant.

And I think it's not so much that she looks like his wife as it is an unwillingness to admit he unintentionally wrote such revolting character.

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>>91799996
Despite using banana peels on Sal's "favorite shortcut"?

And this:
>>91800054
>I think it's a ham-fisted metaphor that's just too stupid for us to understand. She's obviously trying to win here: >>91738851, even resorting to dirty tricks.

>>91801395
Is there a way to see them on the map or track when other players can pick them up?

>>91802571
Maybe she'll suffocate in her little Pity Chamber.

>>91802699
Hoping he just doesn't care anymore. No point in arguing with someone who doesn't think you're worth their time. They could have had a nice conversation, but she told him to leave. Danny needs to separate himself from this. Maybe he'll go sleep with Ethan finally.

>>91802983
He's suffering under the delusion of trying to continue being her friend. I think this might be when he finally realizes that Amber doesn't want to spend time with him.

>>91803378
See pic.

>>91803611
Already? Ugh.

>>91805294
>I wonder if Willis gives her a free pass because she looks like his wife
Pretty much this. Just think of him as Mike back in Shortpacked, and it all makes sense.

>>91802571
I feel like this is to set up Danny having depressed sex with Ethan or something

>>91802571
This is why nobody likes you Amber.

It's not even that she's a tragic character that pushes everyone away. She's just a bitch.

>>91803543
Yeah I'm starting to hate Carla too. But I don't know why I'm okay with sexy ass Mike at the same time. They both do as they want

>>91805530

Yeah, the undercover thing is another element, the FBI dug so many holes into the KKK it's amazing.

>>91795387
>If you don't start doing your job I'm going to report you to your boss for not doing your job
>blackmail

>>91807209
You missed the part where she's violating the rules too by being transphobic. They would both be in trouble if they snitched eachother out

>>91807209
Actually she was blackmailing her over the fact that Billie and Ruth were fucking.
So yes, Blackmail would be the appropriate term.

>>91802879

God, how crass and obnoxious.

>>91803157

I don't care for homosexuals. But Ive always been willing to live and let live. I just wish they could leave it at that and not get in your face about it

>>91807804
That's our babygay Becky!

>>91805793

I find both irredeemably reprehensible.

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>>91807938

>babygay

Oh Jesus Christ.

>>91807820
Discrimination is such an obnoxiousness 2 way street.
If people didn't discriminate, no one would feel the need to be "open" or "pridefull" about being (gay, black, a woman etc.)

Basically there's 2 groups of people making a big deal about it. People who HATE 'x' and constantly speak out against 'x'.

The 'x' people who want to get back at those people with community and Solidarity. Of course that usual ends out being very outspoken and in-your-face because it's trying to fight an established norm

And then there's all the people in the middle that don't care too strongly one way or the other. The more to the center you are, the more you find BOTH sides really annoying and cringey.

>>91805793
Because Mike is like a guided munition: there will be collateral damage, but that is a side effect of fucking over this one person as thoroughly as possible.
Carla is like strategic bombing: it's almost nothing but collateral damage, justified by calling it revenge, against a separate enemy.

>>91807245
Don't forget that carla is more important than everyone on this floor and the one below it. she can skate and stomp in the halls as much as she wants, and ruth will only materialize once mary actually succeeds in getting carla to stop through "transphobia"

>>91804263
If you give a shit about that why are you even reading this comic? It's not gonna get less lgbt. And even by that weird standard, making characters who are already queer date each other is the least lgbt thing you could do, because otherwise they'll have to date new characters.

>>91805793
Let me put on my armchair psychologist hat.

It's because Mike, even when presented as correct, is still considered by the other characters to be a complete asshole. He's rude, abrasive and insulting. He also owns it. In universe and out, he's acknowledged to be a bit of a shit and even his friends can only take so much of him at once (insert sex joke here).

Carla on the other hand, despite her cast page saying she's an asshole, isn't treated that way by the other characters or the readers. She's always right, she's always justified, she needs to be protected. Her assholery has excuses 'i didn't have the toys I wanted when I was growing up' or 'people picked on me'. There are no consequences for her actions, because people will literally teleport to her location if she's feeling bad. When Billie got mad at her, the scene ended after one yelled sentence. There was no repercussions for 'hey, maybe you shouldn't be outing people. you know, like when you bluescreened when Mary pointed out you were trans.'

Her behaviour is actually worse than Mike's - outing people, creating public nuisances, creating machines that at best are fire hazards and at worst could be dangerous, etc. Mike just confines his shit to a handful of people. You have to be in Mary's vicinity to suffer her ire and nastiness. If Carla decides to be annoying, then everyone in the vicinity gets to experience it.

So, that's my armchair analysis: it's a matter of scale and of how the characters' assholishness is presented.

>>91807801
>If you don't stop fucking your student I'm going to report you to your boss for fucking your student
>blackmail

>>91809462
That's how blackmail works, yes. You don't blackmail someone for doing something appropriate to their position. You blackmail them for doing or not doing something they're not supposed to (or that they think they're not supposed to).

Like a building inspector isn't doing proper checks, or they're having sex with one of the landlords they're supposed to be investigating and you go up to them and say 'give me $10 or I'll report your relationship/that you're not doing your job and you'll be fired'. I mean, it's a pretty terrible blackmail job (like asking for an entirely voluntary prayer session), but it's still blackmail.

If you just went and reported the person, that's fine. It's going to them first and saying 'give me special treatment or i'll tell everyone you're a shitty inspector' that makes it blackmail. Mary absolutely did blackmail Ruth. Ruth is just such a shitty RA that it was ridiculously easy. Like every single person on the floor could have done it. Mary just got there firs 'cause she's eeeeeevil.

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>>91809750
It was more like "Do your actual job around here for once or I'm ratting on your poor work ethic and also your sex habits to your superior."

And then Ruth still didn't do her job and Mary didn't get what she wanted and it ultimately fizzled out when Ruth committed sleepicide.

>>91803543
Up to $64K, right on pace with the last kickstarter. After costs, that's going to buy a lot of diapers & Transformer toys.

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>>91805294
>I wonder if Willis gives her a free pass because she looks like his wife?

There was a reason Amber's hair and core persona changed around 2008: It's when he first met Maggie.

Of course, several years and two kids later, Willis might be realizing that the nerd waifu he wanted wasn't necessarily the nerd waifu he needs.

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>>91802662
She used to be my favorite character back in the Shortpacked days.

>>91812073
>changed Amber to reflect his wife
>gives Amber deep-seated insecurity, rage issues and a pseudo-mental disability

Uhm...

>>91809462
Yes. That's literally what black mail is. Using someone's own mistakes or wrong doings as leverage to get them to do what you want them to do.
Mary's black mail is "Do your job, within the confines of how I want you to do your job (namely showing special treatment and doing things like leading a group prayer) or I'll blow the whistle on your little tryst with the fat titted asian."

>>91812122

Same here, it's kind of why I'm raging about her DoA version and Willis going all-in on the Amazi-Girl thing.

>>91812164
Maybe he realized the Shy Nerdy Waifu isn't all it's cracked up to be, and why he shifted to Dorothy as his new ideal.

>>91803543
>>91812010
I'll never buy anything from Willis, but I looked at his kickstarter and I'm utterly disgusted. All those rewards, only to get one magnet ? And wooo, 50k brings every backer a free Becky magnet ? I realize this is good business and there's no reason for him not to milk it as much as he can, but that seems really shitty as far as rewards go. Especially from a guy who makes thousands of dollars every month.

>>91807804
The more we hate Becky, the more her power grows.

>>91809044

>If you give a shit about that why are you even reading this comic?

Because I enjoy coming here and helping tear apart a shit comic and the piece of shit that makes it. I deeply enjoy being proven right over and over.

Ive seen David Willis on various Transformers messageboards and on USENET. WHile he wasnt as bad as he is today, he was always a narcissistic know it all with a skewed sense of morality. I love kicking this ass along with everyone in this thread. He is by many definitions a bad person.

>>It's not gonna get less lgbt.

Never said it would. But that doesn't make my point about it being too LGBT as it is any less valid.